CORRECTION- the rear suspension isn't "independent", it's multi-link with coil springs and outboard mounted dampers. Sorry for the brain fart, the brain was thinking "multi-link" the hands were writing "independent". Oh, the days of having a copy editor...
@@vuetube4558 -- Are you saying that all trucks are equal. ? What about value retention, reliability....or resale value ? Is the Toyota not ahead of the others...??
@@BigHouse907 OMG you had an '85? I had an '84 SR5 4X4. Manual transmission and manual locks and windows too but with an almost Recarro level electric seat. I still think about that truck and how much I liked it.
I had a basic 2003 4X4 SR5 Tacoma with the 4 cylinder engine, 5 speed manual, manual door locks and crank windows. Kept it for 17 years before replacing it with a 2020 Tacoma because I needed to tow a 3,000 lb trailer. As basic and under powered as it was, I still miss that 2003 version of the Tacoma.
@@COSolar6419 I have a 1993 Toyota Pickup, even older than yours. Manual transmission, the ticking 22RE, manual doors and windows. 306,000 miles currently and it still runs so smoothly. I just mainly use it for errands around town but it has a 7.5ft bed and has come in handy. They just don't make simple trucks anymore sadly. I love my Tacoma but I do wish it was an access cab instead of a double cab.
$46k for a one up from base 4x4 is quite steep for what you get. It seems that all makers of mid size trucks feel free to jack the prices up because truck buyers seem willing to pay a premium to own a truck. SUVs seem to have a better value proposition because those buyers expect more value for less money
Ironically there’s people out there that buy these already OVERPRICED vehicles and they are not afraid to throw at them thousands of dollars more on modifications, unnecessary aftermarket upgrades and accessories. Figures.
Seemed like yesterday when generation 3 came out! The flow of time is so mysterious that anymore it is Monday and then all of a sudden it's the next Monday!!!
I like that they didn’t go overboard with the chunky body styling as seen with their new designs. It look proportionally correct vs the new Tundra and LC.
@@danantitrump3206The SR5 Tundra can be had for under $50k and will do a better job of hauling a dead tree. You might have to drive it 1,000 miles to get it home, but too me it's worth it.
@@danantitrump3206 That's why you buy a cheap little trailer for the few times you need to carry dirty or oversized shit...which easily applies to 95% of taco owners like my brother. He should've bought a made in Japan 4runner with the old 4.0L V6 over his 21 taco TRD pro- even he admits it he hates the engine trans combo and the tight interior space and the fact he only uses the bed once every few months.
@@ruthnoya8424 Nah, I use the bed of my Tacoma daily so definitely can't do a 4runner. Plus, owning a trailer is a hassle, you need space to store it and hooking it on and off. No thanks, I prefer just to throw everything in the bed and be done with it. I went to the recycling plant and all my cans in bags were leaking disgusting fluid. Imagine carrying that in a 4runner lol. I just hosed the back of the bed and that was that.
Thanks Tom! I’ve been a fan of your videos since you were on King5 and Apple iTunes video podcasts. Excellent content and videography. Back in the day, I asked for your advice on a sporty ride as I was switching from my 2002 Tacoma TRD - eventually got a 2013 Porsche Boxster S. Nowadays, thinking about switching from the Boxster back to the new Tacoma. What goes around comes around? Thanks to you and your family and friends who help you with Driven!!
Still driving a 2008 sr5 sport with 212k. The engine is flawless...no leaks whatsoever! Think im going to wait for a couple years before i think about shelling out $50k for a truck.
Back in 2005 I bought a Tacoma SR5 pre-runner with some options for $24k cash.. kept it for 11 years had a few problems but it was a great truck. Now the prices are just over the top.. I love Toyotas but I'll wait till all the heat wears out and the dealer start offering some incentives but I think there are better choices out there even on the used market.. and I have a background in dealerships..
@@psynurse I have a 2022 Tacoma TRD sport 4x4. 38,000 miles and nothing has gone wrong with it. It is not fast, and ride is not caddy soft. But if you need a small truck that is reliable and gets the job done every day, I 100% recommend it.
‘24 Taco SR-5 2wd . Great truck. I leased it. Toyota has great lease incentives. My lease is outrageously affordable. So the 46K didn’t come in to play.
So this lower end trim model was at $46,000 with options. That tells me that mid-trim levels will be in the $50's, with your high end trim models running up to $60 or $65k. And will the dealers tack on another $5k? I wouldn't be surprised if they do. They'll still sell a bunch due to the fancy new styling, reputation for durability and host of other improvements. But, for the price they are asking you can get a nicely optioned full size truck, which I think is what I'd do. Once the hoopla dies down from this being a complete redesign, the prices will drop a fair amount I'm predicting. In the meantime, Toyota will take advantage of those who must have the latest truck right now.
My 23 4wd v6 is 18city/22highway/20 combined. The 24 gas tacoma is 18/city/23 highway/20 combined. They are selling you less of a truck for more money and you don't even save anything on gas. Not to mention they probably are saving a ton on manufacturing costs making 4 cylinders over a v6 and clearly they are not passing that savings on to you. Glad I got the 23 SR5 V6 for sure.
I definitely like the transmission with more gears and the dashboard, plus the overall design. Toyota dropped the ball on rear interior space and rear storage, something that is needed for a small truck, because certain things people don’t want to put in the bed.
Im glad i got the 23 colorado trail boss for around $40k when it came out with options. It is just better performing and more capable, the tech is just as good also. 12k miles in love the colorado. I had high hopes for the tacoma but my goodness the price is out of this world for the performance and capabaility.
@@mickeywhite7878you pay more up front with the taco so yeah you will get more when you sell all else being equal. Resale argument is for people who haven’t done the math. The money you save will surpass resale on a Toyota.
Love the Tacoma and Toyota! With that said I am done buying new pricing is just to stupid at this point. We have bought new for the last 20 years every few years. No more! I wanted to trade our 2021 Armada for the new Sequoia until I found out a comparable Sequoia to our Armada was $80K.
The back seat configuration is a huge downgrade from the previous gen. Being able to fold the back seats down for a flat loading area was really useful.
Plus zero to 60 in 8 seconds , I’m glad I didn’t wait and buy this truck, my Colorado Trail Boss does zero to 60 in 6s plus I got the 430# torque calibration!
While the Toyota turbo 4 cylinder will probably be more reliable than most turbo 4-cylinders, I doubt it will be as reliable as the 6 cylinder that has been used for the last century. No doubt the new 4Runner will have the turbo 4 cylinder as well. In the 4Runner's case updating the automatic transmission to an 8-spd automatic would have made close to the same mileage gains as switching to the 4 cylinder turbo. Yes, I know the turbo 4 makes more power, but it has to be spooled up to realize that power. I wish they had kept the 6 cylinder as a no-cost option or made the turbo 4 an extra cost option and kept the price of the truck down seeing as how it seems to have increased by $4000.
Ill keep my 2023 Canyon. So far it is awesomely maneuverable, extreamly high torque at 430 ft lbs. Average milage 20, and very nice American styling. Love the Taco, very nice truck with a good reliability track record. Buy what YOU LIKE, not what people tell you to buy. Don't be pressured by blow hards and its your money and your choice. After all this is America.
Too much tech. If a software update can render a vehicle inoperable, I wouldn't trust it in the long run. Tacoma will not be killed by a failed software update.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 software happens when a company, ANY AUTO COMPANY, makes a contract deal with the software supplier who pledges to supply a defect free product to an auto company. This situation can happen to any company and I don't hold GM totally responsible for getting a raw deal on defective software, but once a problem is identified, I expect GM to put legal pressure on the supplier to fix the issues. Also this issue seemed to only happen in states with draconian emissions policies. Also this problem has been resolved for about 4 or 6 monthes now and is a dead horse.
Pros - Exterior design looks nice, Cons - All digital gauges, lower air dam looks ridiculous, 4cyl turbo/ hybrid 8sp transmission will be less reliable and expensive for (Long term) users. I honestly feel Toyota is jumping on the band wagon for cheap thrills tech for the new generation of drivers and the new era of disposal vehicle's where nothing last for 10yrs now which is sad because they were the pioneers for long lasting reliable cars. People also need to be more vocal on car channels to be pushing back on things we don't want or we will be having crap going forward. The manufactures do look at comments to see what people think, for how much vehicle's cost now we do not need them telling us what we think we would like versus what we want.
i agree 100%, no new cars and trucks are worth buying, they start falling apart sometimes before you get it home and all the shit that alot of us dont want.
This sr5 truck crew cab long bed with no extra options will be good enough for me, everything costs to much as it is today. Just want a modern basic truck. I hope this truck will be reliable because there aren't many reliable options out there.
I have a 2004 Tacoma. These new trucks seem more like a full size truck to me. I look at a double cab with six foot bed in the parking lot and it doesn't even fit in the parking space. It seems you can only buy full size or over size trucks. I think the next car I buy will be a SUV with some towing capacity. Rent a trailer when I need to.
@toronado… Real man doesn’t complain about the lack of coil springs but wants a leaf spring and kidney shaking, tooth filling removing washboard driving experience. 😃 I drive on a washboard road at least once a week just for the sake of it because otherwise I feel I have low T developing. 😆
@@is6566 I do want comfort. I just have a different idea of what comfort is. It's not chrome and glitz and glamour. I want functional every day usefulness. I don't want the involuntary tooth filling extractions. I want the most compliant possible suspension. I don't want 27" touchscreens with wireless connectivity. 😂 I don't want heated and cooled seats. I want easy to clean seats. 😊
It was fun to run into you at Costco yesterday, Tom. Hope you were able to find a wreath that met your wife's criteria! I meant to ask you what vehicle you were in the process of reviewing; can you spill the beans or are you under embargo?
Seems they've listened to our complaints, even if I do buy I'll keep my 02 that's approaching 500k.With the mileage who would want it but it still performs fine.
Thanks for the review, excellent. We recently road tested the last of the 23 Tacomas... held off to see the new Tacoma. Given the obscene price increase, I am on the fence. I have a 2016 Tundra.. meh.. I prefer my 1971 International; that is a TRUCK. My 2000 4 Runner stick shift is bullet proof. My great grandfather emigrated from Austria to Tacoma in 1883. Our family has been there since.
@@DrivenCarReviews I am not a fan of Detroit Iron largely built by uncaring, grossly overpaid union g - - n s . Resale is poor, quality standards not in evidence. I'll go look but not excited to do so. I was in the car biz for 25 years.. 11 years retail including Service MGR of a Mazda/Honda dealership., Parts and Service Director of a 5 dealership conglomerate to include Toyota, 2 Nissan stores, Honda and gag me, Buick. Most of my years at a Rolls, Bentley, Jag, Aston Martin, MG, Lotus, Healy, Morris, Mini Cooper, Jensen , De Tomaso, dealership. 14 years as a factory field rep and Mgmnt Training manager for 3 Hi Line Euro car makers. The business is no longer what it was and the cars are rolling cup holders.
I wish someone would explain what is different about the base SR that makes it’s towing capacity so much less. Even the detuned engine has way more horsepower than the previous generation base model (which also maxed out at 3500).
The head engineer did mention that for the manual they had to lower the horsepower because of crankshaft hammering in the higher rpms. There were other options but that would have added more cost.
Thanks for not forgetting about the Frontier/Gladiator, a lot of reviewers are, almost like they have an agenda/bias. The Frontier is the only truck that is comparable to this as far as cab options and be lengths go.
going from 6 to 4 cylinder means the engine needs to work harder, with unknown longevity of the turbo. this change sure wasn't to get better mpg. what is it? 1 mpg? I'll stay with my 2010 tacoma but seriously considering a trd sport 2023.
3rd gen Tacoma was the best one on the road. Loose the 4 cylinder turbo and bring back the 6 cylinder with a 9 speed transmission and I’m sold. Turbos=more maintenance Also bring back a regular cab sr with manual transmission work truck.
Aluminum. Composite bed and interior lining of the tailgate. From the press kit- The lightweight but sturdy aluminum tailgate features an available power open and close function with jam protection.
My '21 Ranger has an aluminum tailgate also (and hood). Not a fan - it dents easier and doesn't have the memory of steel. It won't bounce back. That makes PDR repairs more challenging (and pricey).
Two door should have bench front seats, room for three. Small concern until you need it. With a KD tune on v6 I get the same mpg as new 4 cyl. Sound deadening added? Tacomas sell because there are no other choices
11:40 That touch screen looks like a child’s toy,, people talk crap about my Colorado Trail Boss plastic, lol this SR5 plastic looks way way cheaper, plus I payed 41k with 310 hp and had mine calibrated to 430# torque, this SR5 also a 4 cylinder but way less power and torque, and it’s close to 50k at least the plastic and touch screen, speedo in my truck look awesome compared to the SR5
This Tacoma is super nice, but as someone who just bought a 21 TRD Off Road with manual over the summer, I’m more than happy with that. I’m sure this Taco is comfier and more refined but I love the look and feel of the 3rd gen and I trust the long term reliability of the V6 over a turbo 4 cylinder. But maybe one day I’d upgrade to this one
Herb Albert? Most of your audience has no idea. I was going to mention that it dates you. Then I remembered I have his vinyl record in my collection. 😅
Man, these prices are crazy. My father-in-law still drives his 1992 Toyota Pickup (before they started calling it the Tacoma). He paid $8000 for it brand new.
Ah, the good old days. Here's the crazy thing, adjusted for inflation, a decently equipped 1992 would be around $34,000 today. But 2024s are a completely different truck. 1992s had 116 HP and 140 lb-ft, literally half the towing capacity and nearly zero safety tech. The base 2024 SR truck has much more going for it and MSRPs for $36K with a few extras and 4WD.
Tacoma really has improved since I moved to the PNW 20 years ago. It used to be known as the suicide capital of America. Love the McMenamin's Elks Temple Hotel and restaurant. Glad they saved this beautiful structure.
The hybrid mpg probably not much better true but I don’t think they are hiding it. They just want a separate event for launching it. They want to stretch the hype period.
I am seeing Tundra SR5 4x4 3.4 v6 for under $50k. Why do some of these still have cart springs? The sell for my family would be the manual transmission, but that limits other options, like trim, cab, and bed length. At least they aren't only offering manual with the lowest trim and features. Manual transmission was driven out of the mainstream by locking out other features, like a decent radio, or A/C, or CD player. I'd always rather chew my own food, as it were.
There's a correction in the description but I can't change the video once it's up. Basically I was thinking multi-link but writing independent. I need a copy editor.
@@DrivenCarReviewsFair enough. Per your repeated suggestions, I watched on the big-screen TV where description and comments are accessible but not prominent.
Excellent review with useful info. Been driving a Ranger for 22 years and was going to get another one but Ford's quality issues make me hesitant. Still comparing the two before a decision. 🤡
The more gizmos and technology put into all these new vehicles leaves breakage and reliability even more troublesome…..not just Ford but ALL manufactures experience this!
@@maxoblivion I’ve always noticed that many of the vehicles still on the road are some of the most basic models with little technology….or proven technology……I’ve seen very high end vehicles sell for dirty cheap because it needs a $2500 instrument cluster replaced less than 10 years old and well under 100k miles. (Just an example)
How’s the sound system? I bought a 2022 SR and rear speakers are trash. Front speakers are basic. To pay so much for a truck and they put a basic system in is not cool!
I love that Toyota included free snow plow for Tacoma.
CORRECTION- the rear suspension isn't "independent", it's multi-link with coil springs and outboard
mounted dampers. Sorry for the brain fart, the brain was thinking "multi-link" the hands were writing "independent". Oh, the days of having a copy editor...
I'm old enough to remember when the SR-5 was top of the line.
I still drive one. My 1985 SR5 was the fancy one. Complete with manual locks and windows. 😂
No need to spend more than what you need a truck for. The upgrades are just not worth it!
@@vuetube4558 -- Are you saying that all trucks are equal. ? What about value retention, reliability....or resale value ? Is the Toyota not ahead of the others...??
@@BigHouse907 OMG you had an '85? I had an '84 SR5 4X4. Manual transmission and manual locks and windows too but with an almost Recarro level electric seat. I still think about that truck and how much I liked it.
I wish it still was and there were more lower tirm levels. IN Canada we can't have the SR.
I had a basic 2003 4X4 SR5 Tacoma with the 4 cylinder engine, 5 speed manual, manual door locks and crank windows. Kept it for 17 years before replacing it with a 2020 Tacoma because I needed to tow a 3,000 lb trailer. As basic and under powered as it was, I still miss that 2003 version of the Tacoma.
My 1993 I still have because it’s better
Have a 2002 I want to get a third gen but im definitly keeping my 2002.
Was any made in Japan?
@@tommorgan1291 I believe it was.
@@COSolar6419 I have a 1993 Toyota Pickup, even older than yours. Manual transmission, the ticking 22RE, manual doors and windows. 306,000 miles currently and it still runs so smoothly. I just mainly use it for errands around town but it has a 7.5ft bed and has come in handy. They just don't make simple trucks anymore sadly. I love my Tacoma but I do wish it was an access cab instead of a double cab.
$46k for a one up from base 4x4 is quite steep for what you get. It seems that all makers of mid size trucks feel free to jack the prices up because truck buyers seem willing to pay a premium to own a truck. SUVs seem to have a better value proposition because those buyers expect more value for less money
... and that's before dealer markup... because dealers mark up everything as if their market/business in enough stress
Ironically there’s people out there that buy these already OVERPRICED vehicles and they are not afraid to throw at them thousands of dollars more on modifications, unnecessary aftermarket upgrades and accessories. Figures.
Very happy I bought a fully loaded 2022 TRD OR 6MT for less than this thing OTD...
@@K03sport Stop paiding dealer markup.
@@zackbongle9967 Must be nice.
Still rocking my grandfather’s 1995 Tacoma
Seemed like yesterday when generation 3 came out! The flow of time is so mysterious that anymore it is Monday and then all of a sudden it's the next Monday!!!
Nice truck, can’t wait to get the TRD Pro model so I can get my Starbucks coffee on the way to the big box store.
I like that they didn’t go overboard with the chunky body styling as seen with their new designs. It look proportionally correct vs the new Tundra and LC.
The new Tundra looks 100% better than the previous gen!
@@jimmycline4778 not to my eyes. Unnecessary boxy loaded up front end makes it look disproportionate to rest of body.
@@muskistutter dont you mean ugly
The body on the new Tacoma has so many angles if it got in a wreck you wouldn’t notice. 😂
not as bad as the tundra
Honestly, for around $45k for an SR5 Tacoma, I might as well save up a little more and get the Land Cruiser 1958 for around $55k
Yeah... if you've got a family especially.
that will work awesome for hauling a cut down tree or filthy nasty garbage to the dump or a new fridge home. NOT THE SAME truck vs SUV
@@danantitrump3206The SR5 Tundra can be had for under $50k and will do a better job of hauling a dead tree. You might have to drive it 1,000 miles to get it home, but too me it's worth it.
@@danantitrump3206
That's why you buy a cheap little trailer for the few times you need to carry dirty or oversized shit...which easily applies to 95% of taco owners like my brother. He should've bought a made in Japan 4runner with the old 4.0L V6 over his 21 taco TRD pro- even he admits it he hates the engine trans combo and the tight interior space and the fact he only uses the bed once every few months.
@@ruthnoya8424 Nah, I use the bed of my Tacoma daily so definitely can't do a 4runner. Plus, owning a trailer is a hassle, you need space to store it and hooking it on and off. No thanks, I prefer just to throw everything in the bed and be done with it. I went to the recycling plant and all my cans in bags were leaking disgusting fluid. Imagine carrying that in a 4runner lol. I just hosed the back of the bed and that was that.
The new Ranger is also available with the 2.7 V6, it's just late availability.
Thanks Tom! I’ve been a fan of your videos since you were on King5 and Apple iTunes video podcasts. Excellent content and videography.
Back in the day, I asked for your advice on a sporty ride as I was switching from my 2002 Tacoma TRD - eventually got a 2013 Porsche Boxster S. Nowadays, thinking about switching from the Boxster back to the new Tacoma. What goes around comes around?
Thanks to you and your family and friends who help you with Driven!!
Still driving a 2008 sr5 sport with 212k. The engine is flawless...no leaks whatsoever!
Think im going to wait for a couple years before i think about shelling out $50k for a truck.
You going to pay cash? 😂
by then it will be $75k.
Back in 2005 I bought a Tacoma SR5 pre-runner with some options for $24k cash.. kept it for 11 years had a few problems but it was a great truck. Now the prices are just over the top.. I love Toyotas but I'll wait till all the heat wears out and the dealer start offering some incentives but I think there are better choices out there even on the used market.. and I have a background in dealerships..
Nissan frontier $35000 or less.
Insane prices
Obscene gouging, it's made in Mexico with Mexican labor and operating cost.
Super clear and helpful (as always) bummed they got ride of the "access cab" opening rear doors.
But you still have a console that's as useful as teats on a bull!
Independent rear suspension?! Tom, that is a solid rear axle with coil springs
I had a 2012 and had to trade it in because of the seating position. It kiled my back. This looks much more ergonomic from a seating perspective. 😊
It was for small people. Used to work with an Asian lady years ago that drove a Tacoma. She was like 4 foot 5.
I know the feeling! I hated the seating the MOST!!!
@@aaronwalsh8469 My Uncle is 6'4" and dailys a 2010 base Tacoma lol.
The price for this truck is absolutely insane. I would buy a Colorado in a heartbeat
Said no one ever 🤷
@@paulm6481He said it.
I have diesel Colorado... What a nightmare. Been in shop so many times
@@psynurse I have a 2022 Tacoma TRD sport 4x4. 38,000 miles and nothing has gone wrong with it. It is not fast, and ride is not caddy soft. But if you need a small truck that is reliable and gets the job done every day, I 100% recommend it.
@@psynurse never said I’d buy one out of warranty lol
‘24 Taco SR-5 2wd . Great truck. I leased it. Toyota has great lease incentives. My lease is outrageously affordable. So the 46K didn’t come in to play.
So this lower end trim model was at $46,000 with options. That tells me that mid-trim levels will be in the $50's, with your high end trim models running up to $60 or $65k. And will the dealers tack on another $5k? I wouldn't be surprised if they do. They'll still sell a bunch due to the fancy new styling, reputation for durability and host of other improvements. But, for the price they are asking you can get a nicely optioned full size truck, which I think is what I'd do. Once the hoopla dies down from this being a complete redesign, the prices will drop a fair amount I'm predicting. In the meantime, Toyota will take advantage of those who must have the latest truck right now.
My 23 4wd v6 is 18city/22highway/20 combined. The 24 gas tacoma is 18/city/23 highway/20 combined. They are selling you less of a truck for more money and you don't even save anything on gas. Not to mention they probably are saving a ton on manufacturing costs making 4 cylinders over a v6 and clearly they are not passing that savings on to you. Glad I got the 23 SR5 V6 for sure.
I definitely like the transmission with more gears and the dashboard, plus the overall design. Toyota dropped the ball on rear interior space and rear storage, something that is needed for a small truck, because certain things people don’t want to put in the bed.
Im glad i got the 23 colorado trail boss for around $40k when it came out with options. It is just better performing and more capable, the tech is just as good also. 12k miles in love the colorado. I had high hopes for the tacoma but my goodness the price is out of this world for the performance and capabaility.
But you won’t get the resale value with the Colorado(which I like, btw) that you will with the Tacoma
@@mickeywhite7878you pay more up front with the taco so yeah you will get more when you sell all else being equal. Resale argument is for people who haven’t done the math. The money you save will surpass resale on a Toyota.
Love the Tacoma and Toyota! With that said I am done buying new pricing is just to stupid at this point. We have bought new for the last 20 years every few years. No more! I wanted to trade our 2021 Armada for the new Sequoia until I found out a comparable Sequoia to our Armada was $80K.
Yeah with interest rates they want $1,000 monthly, who can afford that?
@paulm6481 You would be surprised. There are a lot of people out there who can afford that, not me 😂 Lol
Become a good American....go into debt and live off your credit card.
Saw this truck at the Seattle Auto Show. It looked great! Would have been nice if they would have at least let us sit in it, though.
It had the shiny pre-production plastic, that's why. It really doesn't look very good.
After owning the last three generations of the tacoma, im going with the canyon
FWIW I rather like the Canyon.
The back seat configuration is a huge downgrade from the previous gen. Being able to fold the back seats down for a flat loading area was really useful.
Huge downgrade for sure. My dog says hard pass.
I bought one 2 weeks ago and love everything about it
My self I love the truck it has plenty power and rides great and the transmission doesn’t hunt for gears like my 2022 does.
Better tech, better drivetrain, but at nearly $50,000 with tax and fees......there are probably better options. And we're a Toyota family.
Plus zero to 60 in 8 seconds , I’m glad I didn’t wait and buy this truck, my Colorado Trail Boss does zero to 60 in 6s plus I got the 430# torque calibration!
What are the better options?
Need the Toyota Stout p.u.
Smaller is better.
I’d rather buy an old gx 470 or lx and fix it up. It’s old and dated but worthy. Bad gas mileage unfortunately.
The body on the new Tacoma has so many angles if it got in a wreck you wouldn’t notice. 😂
While the Toyota turbo 4 cylinder will probably be more reliable than most turbo 4-cylinders, I doubt it will be as reliable as the 6 cylinder that has been used for the last century. No doubt the new 4Runner will have the turbo 4 cylinder as well. In the 4Runner's case updating the automatic transmission to an 8-spd automatic would have made close to the same mileage gains as switching to the 4 cylinder turbo. Yes, I know the turbo 4 makes more power, but it has to be spooled up to realize that power. I wish they had kept the 6 cylinder as a no-cost option or made the turbo 4 an extra cost option and kept the price of the truck down seeing as how it seems to have increased by $4000.
Ill keep my 2023 Canyon. So far it is awesomely maneuverable, extreamly high torque at 430 ft lbs. Average milage 20, and very nice American styling. Love the Taco, very nice truck with a good reliability track record. Buy what YOU LIKE, not what people tell you to buy. Don't be pressured by blow hards and its your money and your choice. After all this is America.
The tacoma has and will outlast that gm by a long shot,and have better resale as well
Too much tech. If a software update can render a vehicle inoperable, I wouldn't trust it in the long run. Tacoma will not be killed by a failed software update.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 software happens when a company, ANY AUTO COMPANY, makes a contract deal with the software supplier who pledges to supply a defect free product to an auto company. This situation can happen to any company and I don't hold GM totally responsible for getting a raw deal on defective software, but once a problem is identified, I expect GM to put legal pressure on the supplier to fix the issues. Also this issue seemed to only happen in states with draconian emissions policies. Also this problem has been resolved for about 4 or 6 monthes now and is a dead horse.
And will it have the same problems as Tundra with the turbos ( random ) among others. 168k recalls with Tundra.
They really stepped up the game for this generation. They finally have competition and it shows with all the trims and options. Great Review sir
Cool truck like 5 years ago
@@aaronwalsh8469that's been toyota's way for decades.
I just bought a brand new 2023 v6 sr5 4dr for 36k. 6th gen Tacomas are legend.
It seems to be a nice improvement. It is not independent rear suspension by the way, it has coils with a live axle.
Yes, major brain fart
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the review looking forward to seeing more of the new Tacoma.
Pros - Exterior design looks nice, Cons - All digital gauges, lower air dam looks ridiculous, 4cyl turbo/ hybrid 8sp transmission will be less reliable and expensive for (Long term) users. I honestly feel Toyota is jumping on the band wagon for cheap thrills tech for the new generation of drivers and the new era of disposal vehicle's where nothing last for 10yrs now which is sad because they were the pioneers for long lasting reliable cars. People also need to be more vocal on car channels to be pushing back on things we don't want or we will be having crap going forward. The manufactures do look at comments to see what people think, for how much vehicle's cost now we do not need them telling us what we think we would like versus what we want.
i agree 100%, no new cars and trucks are worth buying, they start falling apart sometimes before you get it home and all the shit that alot of us dont want.
I'll keep my Ridgeline, thank you. Nice upgrades though.
Ridgeline 🤣🤣🤣🤣
ridgeline is not really a truck@@atg1338
@@Eternal2740 if you want an suv with a bed i guess it's not. But it's definitely not a truck!
This sr5 truck crew cab long bed with no extra options will be good enough for me, everything costs to much as it is today. Just want a modern basic truck. I hope this truck will be reliable because there aren't many reliable options out there.
The new Tacomas are like the size of an F-150 from a few generations back.
Like all mid-sized trucks
15:53 - this is all I've been looking to find out. Did they fix the cabin noise! Thanks.
Can someone please tell me does the sr double cabs / 4x4; does it come with spring coil suspension or leaf ?
Every SR is leaf.
@@is6566 thank you
If possible please make a video with the 2023 or 2024 Mazda CX-8 2.2L Diesel Engine Variant.
Not possible.
Can you fit a sheet of plywood between the wheel wells?
Another great video from Tom! Surprisingly nice and well equipped as a base truck.
Does the 2024 Tacoma have “automatic start/stop”?
Didn't experience it, thinking not
I have a 2004 Tacoma. These new trucks seem more like a full size truck to me. I look at a double cab with six foot bed in the parking lot and it doesn't even fit in the parking space. It seems you can only buy full size or over size trucks. I think the next car I buy will be a SUV with some towing capacity. Rent a trailer when I need to.
To me, that base SR is the only one that seems like a real truck. Too bad you can't get the coil springs in that trim.
SR5 isn't far off. It's a real truck.
Define "real truck".
@@drn13355 LOL just something that gives me the vibe of a truck and not a piece of jewelry.
@toronado… Real man doesn’t complain about the lack of coil springs but wants a leaf spring and kidney shaking, tooth filling removing washboard driving experience. 😃 I drive on a washboard road at least once a week just for the sake of it because otherwise I feel I have low T developing. 😆
@@is6566 I do want comfort. I just have a different idea of what comfort is. It's not chrome and glitz and glamour. I want functional every day usefulness. I don't want the involuntary tooth filling extractions. I want the most compliant possible suspension. I don't want 27" touchscreens with wireless connectivity. 😂 I don't want heated and cooled seats. I want easy to clean seats. 😊
I guess it’s ok if you need a half a sheet of plywood 😂
It was fun to run into you at Costco yesterday, Tom. Hope you were able to find a wreath that met your wife's criteria! I meant to ask you what vehicle you were in the process of reviewing; can you spill the beans or are you under embargo?
Wreath secured and approved. And I was filling up a Volvo C40 Recharge that will happen in the next few weeks. Glad you said hi!
Seems they've listened to our complaints, even if I do buy I'll keep my 02 that's approaching 500k.With the mileage who would want it but it still performs fine.
500 amazing
Thanks for the review, excellent.
We recently road tested the last of the 23 Tacomas... held off to see the new Tacoma.
Given the obscene price increase, I am on the fence.
I have a 2016 Tundra.. meh.. I prefer my 1971 International; that is a TRUCK.
My 2000 4 Runner stick shift is bullet proof.
My great grandfather emigrated from Austria to Tacoma in 1883.
Our family has been there since.
You're not alone. Have you checked out the competition? You really should.
@@DrivenCarReviews I am not a fan of Detroit Iron largely built by uncaring, grossly overpaid union g - - n s .
Resale is poor, quality standards not in evidence.
I'll go look but not excited to do so.
I was in the car biz for 25 years.. 11 years retail including Service MGR of a Mazda/Honda dealership., Parts and Service Director of a 5 dealership conglomerate to include Toyota, 2 Nissan stores, Honda and gag me, Buick. Most of my years at a Rolls, Bentley, Jag, Aston Martin, MG, Lotus, Healy, Morris, Mini Cooper, Jensen , De Tomaso, dealership. 14 years as a factory field rep and Mgmnt Training manager for 3 Hi Line Euro car makers.
The business is no longer what it was and the cars are rolling cup holders.
I wish someone would explain what is different about the base SR that makes it’s towing capacity so much less. Even the detuned engine has way more horsepower than the previous generation base model (which also maxed out at 3500).
Probably lacks the transmission cooler. Also maybe not enough low end torque for pulling.
The head engineer did mention that for the manual they had to lower the horsepower because of crankshaft hammering in the higher rpms. There were other options but that would have added more cost.
Thanks for not forgetting about the Frontier/Gladiator, a lot of reviewers are, almost like they have an agenda/bias. The Frontier is the only truck that is comparable to this as far as cab options and be lengths go.
Can’t say I’ve ever used a back-of-the-seat-pocket when I’m in the back seat.
Do you have kids? Mine used them all the time.
going from 6 to 4 cylinder means the engine needs to work harder, with unknown longevity of the turbo. this change sure wasn't to get better mpg. what is it? 1 mpg? I'll stay with my 2010 tacoma but seriously considering a trd sport 2023.
3rd gen Tacoma was the best one on the road. Loose the 4 cylinder turbo and bring back the 6 cylinder with a 9 speed transmission and I’m sold. Turbos=more maintenance
Also bring back a regular cab sr with manual transmission work truck.
I am with you but it’s not gonna happen.
I think I will replace The head gasket on my 96 Tacoma LX and keep it, I only paid about $2,500 for it broken about 5 years ago.😂
Smart.
I wish they would make a plug in for sll there models
I have always bought Toyota Tacomas to drive them in the ground. I won't be switching any time soon.
aluminum tailgate? thought it was composite.
Aluminum. Composite bed and interior lining of the tailgate. From the press kit- The lightweight but sturdy aluminum tailgate features an available power open and close function with jam protection.
The outer skin is aluminum DUH
My '21 Ranger has an aluminum tailgate also (and hood). Not a fan - it dents easier and doesn't have the memory of steel. It won't bounce back. That makes PDR repairs more challenging (and pricey).
Two door should have bench front seats, room for three. Small concern until you need it. With a KD tune on v6 I get the same mpg as new 4 cyl. Sound deadening added? Tacomas sell because there are no other choices
Great review as always, thanks!
It doesn’t have an independent rear suspension. It a solid axel with leaf springs or coils.
Any idea whether shells from previous gens will fit on this trucks bed?
I do not.
11:40 That touch screen looks like a child’s toy,, people talk crap about my Colorado Trail Boss plastic, lol this SR5 plastic looks way way cheaper, plus I payed 41k with 310 hp and had mine calibrated to 430# torque, this SR5 also a 4 cylinder but way less power and torque, and it’s close to 50k at least the plastic and touch screen, speedo in my truck look awesome compared to the SR5
The plastic will be different when it comes out. I guess you don't hear well
Did they get rid of the hood shaking at top speeds
How is that 7' guy goin to fit in it?
Did Brian step in for Evil Twin to check back seat room? 🤣
Brian was busy. Everyone wants Brian for a back seat tester.
@@DrivenCarReviews Just like they want Jill for the trunk test.
@@RumblestripDotNet Love Jill, setting a bad example for kids everywhere.
The SofTex leather package on an OR/Sport is *$8,900* dollars now 😂
This Tacoma is super nice, but as someone who just bought a 21 TRD Off Road with manual over the summer, I’m more than happy with that. I’m sure this Taco is comfier and more refined but I love the look and feel of the 3rd gen and I trust the long term reliability of the V6 over a turbo 4 cylinder. But maybe one day I’d upgrade to this one
3rd gen has a unique Tacoma look. 4th gen is simply a mini Tundra.
Sweet. I hope the engine and trans hold up when I get a used one with 150k on it in 2030 something lol
Read they already have a TRD lift kit available
LOL, I think anything is better than the cabin of the Nissan Frontier....talk about Jurasic even on the new model!
I've had an '85. '92 and still driving my '05. Seems the price has doubled every time I buy a new one!
You shouldn’t blame Toyota - you should blame the Fed for continually debasing the dollar.
Herb Albert? Most of your audience has no idea. I was going to mention that it dates you. Then I remembered I have his vinyl record in my collection. 😅
Right? He's a legend. My son produces EDM. He thinks Herb Alpert is awesome. But he didn't know that Alpert is the A in A&M Records.
Toyota has the coolest name for an essential level vehicle with SR5.
I watch 10 other reviews. Your the only 1 that mentioned limited n AWD. Sr trim lower HP & Torque. But I haven’t watched Alex yet. He might..
If anyone would it would be Alex
Hyatt Regency in Westlake Village? Those arches and that office park look familiar…
Yes, I sometimes don't know where I'm staying. I just go where I'm taken.
Man, these prices are crazy. My father-in-law still drives his 1992 Toyota Pickup (before they started calling it the Tacoma). He paid $8000 for it brand new.
Ah, the good old days. Here's the crazy thing, adjusted for inflation, a decently equipped 1992 would be around $34,000 today. But 2024s are a completely different truck. 1992s had 116 HP and 140 lb-ft, literally half the towing capacity and nearly zero safety tech. The base 2024 SR truck has much more going for it and MSRPs for $36K with a few extras and 4WD.
Did he say the affordable sr5 for $42,000?
La estrella @AlVasquez haciendo un cameo 5:08
Yikes!! That front air dam!!
Yeah this is really cool and all but, I want the new 10g hilux that's illegal here because of corruption.
Can u for a 4x8!sheet in the bed
Best truck and reliable I'm my opinion 😊
Still Upper Class Pricing I see.
Stop complaining comrade! You own nothing and you are already happy!
@@is6566😂
Another great review!
Tacoma really has improved since I moved to the PNW 20 years ago. It used to be known as the suicide capital of America. Love the McMenamin's Elks Temple Hotel and restaurant. Glad they saved this beautiful structure.
And homes are more affordable there. I have friends that have moved because of that.
The aroma of Tacoma is gone but it it is looking more like a Detroit Ghetto every day
@@skysteppes I hadn't noticed that myself, but I'm from Portland so I could be desensitized a bit ;)
Why are they hiding the hybrid numbers? Mpg is probably still very poor with the hybrid
The hybrid mpg probably not much better true but I don’t think they are hiding it. They just want a separate event for launching it. They want to stretch the hype period.
Not hiding, it's not out yet.
Nice review.
I am seeing Tundra SR5 4x4 3.4 v6 for under $50k. Why do some of these still have cart springs? The sell for my family would be the manual transmission, but that limits other options, like trim, cab, and bed length. At least they aren't only offering manual with the lowest trim and features. Manual transmission was driven out of the mainstream by locking out other features, like a decent radio, or A/C, or CD player. I'd always rather chew my own food, as it were.
Looks great, but I'm still not ready to depart with my 2006 TRD Offroad.
Calling the rear suspension “independent” is a big stretch given its solid rear axle. I think you mean “coil over” vs. “lead spring”.
There's a correction in the description but I can't change the video once it's up. Basically I was thinking multi-link but writing independent. I need a copy editor.
@@DrivenCarReviewsFair enough. Per your repeated suggestions, I watched on the big-screen TV where description and comments are accessible but not prominent.
Excellent review with useful info. Been driving a Ranger for 22 years and was going to get another one but Ford's quality issues make me hesitant. Still comparing the two before a decision. 🤡
The more gizmos and technology put into all these new vehicles leaves breakage and reliability even more troublesome…..not just Ford but ALL manufactures experience this!
@@markcole6475True. How many of the bells and whistles will still be working after 5 years? It'll cost an arm and a leg to fix or replace it. 🧐
@@maxoblivion I’ve always noticed that many of the vehicles still on the road are some of the most basic models with little technology….or proven technology……I’ve seen very high end vehicles sell for dirty cheap because it needs a $2500 instrument cluster replaced less than 10 years old and well under 100k miles. (Just an example)
Herb Alpert's still alive? Who knew?
How’s the sound system? I bought a 2022 SR and rear speakers are trash. Front speakers are basic. To pay so much for a truck and they put a basic system in is not cool!
Didn't have time to assess. I don't remember anything out of the ordinary.
Good review 👍
Anybody else notice the rusted underbody bolts? I guess true to Toyota form; the undercarriage already showing signs of rust...
Stop. This is common on almost all vehicles (and on many parts of the undercarriage). And it doesn't affect the durability at all.