Folks tend to forget that this isn’t the first time Toyota has put a turbo’d 4 cylinder in their truck. I have faith that Toyota has done it’s due diligence to make this a reliable truck but only time will tell. Killer video as always yall!
Like the look. !! Had many Tacomas. .working. them hard. Yes. OVERLOADED and loved them in snow. NEVER had a problem. I hope reliably is there. It's time to upgrade 😊😊😊😊
Lots of new Taco videos out this morning. So the first stop had to be the two dudes whose automotive opinion I trust the most. From the moment I saw y'all throwing deli meats into a door trim panel I knew -- these guys are no bullshit, straight shooters.
Word. When embargoes drop, I want the Savagegeese big brain scoop, not some clickbaiter talking around the exterior for 15 minutes, praising it like they work for the manufacturer, and filming a quarter mile run in it.
Toyota is marketing these turbo trucks hard! Why? Because these are the trucks that ABSOLUTELY NOBODY asked for! Do you want a smaller more complicated engine that's also ridiculously expensive to repair and maybe half as reliable as the previous gens? Oh and they will throw in nearly the same MPG as last years model for free. These are Toyotas equivalent of the Ford Mustang II.
@@uploderpilot sounds like if you want a new midsize truck, you'll be buying a Frontier and nothing else. The world has moved on. We figured out how to make turbo engines reliable. These new trucks make more torque at 1700rpm than the old wheezy V6 made at 4600rpm. They function way better at high altitude. There's plenty of positives, which is why every mdsize truck maker that has money (so, not Nissan who updated the V6 on their 2005 truck) went turbo. Don't yell at the clouds over it.
I bought a 2023 Tacoma 9 months ago, it has been a great truck. I got the 2023 knowing the new one was coming. I figured that if the new Tacoma was all that much better, I could wait a couple more model years for them to shake out any bugs and then trade in. I'm reasonably sure it will be fine. By then, all the me first buyers will be gone and you might be able to buy one for a decent deal.
I bought a 19 Tacoma (Off road) new in Jan of 2019 - and I put 249,000 trouble free miles on it, many of those in 4WD. In Sep of 23 I traded it in on a 23 Tacoma (Pro). I now have 24,000 miles on this truck. I do like most of the changes on the new 4th Gen (I HATE the large screen), but the turbo scares me, especially with as much as I drive. I may give the new Tacoma a try in 3-4 years, as I can see how folks that drive a lot are faring.
Ripping up and down the canyon roads near Malibu. Haven’t done that in a while, thanks to gas prices I wonder where was this off-road trail at? The HiHy needs some light off-roading and a layer of dirt to be called a SUV
Nearly 40k for the entry level non-contractor (SR5) poverty spec TRD is a tough sell when an F150 with a 5.0 Coyote is 5k less and realistically superior in every single way - even reliability, because the Coyote is proven, the trans is sorted and the F150 platform itself is solid. I suspect most people are going to be buying the SR5 for 30k-32k.
I just priced out the cheapest F150 you can get with the 5.0 and it's a little over $38k. Yes you get a V8, but the rest of the truck is pretty much tin can work spec 2wd. I would much rather have a $40k Taco and enjoy my truck.
Ill consider this truck used in 5 years when people arent salivating to be on waiting lists paying a 10k markup in a bad economy where everyone is poorer than they were 10 years ago
The 2.7 might be Toyota's most reliable current engine. Many longtime Toyota techs say they've never seen an 08 and up 2.7 torn apart. Might need a head gasket and water pump before it hits 200k miles but that's about it
This new 2.4 base engine turbo should be fine. The Hybrid Max system however, is still brand new, it was just released 1 year ago. The potential repair costs for that thing will be way more expensive than a regular Prius.
@@andrewgus8763where the fuck are you getting that from? It’s a nickel metal hydride battery which Toyota has proven to be reliable in older hybrids, the electric motors will also be fine, so what exactly are you saying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@bigchimpin4215it’s not a totally new engine. it’s been kicking around for a couple of years already in the Lexus NX and RX, as well as some Toyota SUVs
I thought the new Tundras looked ok until I saw one in person. The headlights are really small looking and about 80% of the front end isn't body color, regardless of trim. The ratio of unpainted, injection molded plastic or that chain-link silver design is just too much for the little amount of body color on that front end.
While I don’t like the huge grill, at least that grill is 100% used for cooling. When you look inside that whale-shark gaping maw, you can see it’s packed full of coolers and condensers. Just don’t get into a fender bender, because that can quickly go from just a body shop appointment to replacing the turbo cooling system.
The turbo'd 4 cylinder engine is a horrible downgrade in every way. Transmission seems like an upgrade. That horrible massive ipad needs to be ripped out. 40% price increase over the previous gen is asinine.
@@austinfrazier7325 this is very true...one thing they don't tell you on these videos... Granted not all dealers do markups but still you will most likely not get it at that price.
Toyota really needs to make a Maverick competitor. The Tacoma has now beome a toy for the wealthy. Most current Tacomas I see online hover in the 40k range. These are supose to be the affordable car brands. Yet they keep forgetting the category of consumers that made them what they are and no one is taking their place.
Well, i finally got a TRD Sport with Premium package. The Tacomas you can’t find easily now are the ones with Premium package. Toyota may actually know what people want and will pay for. Sucks so expensive but people are speaking with their wallets and orders.
As the owner of a manual 3rd gen TRD Sport, I'd absolutely love to see more content on the manual trans TRD models. 4 cylinder turbo doesn't bother me, the torque increase sounds like a worthwhile trade. Also like the coil spring rear suspension. Rear disks are nice from an easier maintenance perspective I suppose, but I've never had a problem with the braking on my 2nd or 3rd gen Tacomas. And my back wheels are always clean 😁. I can see a manual TRD Sport 4th gen in my future, after I wait a few years for Toyota to work the new model bugs out. As I always do, GM taught me that lesson in 1993 with the Camaro.
To be honest. I just want to see the base Tacoma. I know the TRD and high trims are more exciting, but we´ve been using the Tacoma as a work truck so I just want to know how that looks, feels, rides, equipment, and things that may lack compared to the competition.
Joining the Taco fan fest with my two cents: Just caught the review and I'm torn between nostalgia for my old Tacoma and excitement for the new one! 😄 The fully boxed frame and rear disc brakes sound like a dream, but I'll miss the character of the older models. Can anyone with hands-on experience weigh in on how the 4 cylinder turbo feels compared to the old screamers? Also, hats off to Toyota for keeping the manual option - it's like a rare gem these days! Curious about the hybrid model's performance though, especially for off-roading and towing. Any insiders got the scoop? #TacomaTransformation 🚗💨
Nice! Much like the Ford Maverick, I suspect that getting one will be like pulling teeth, and that the waiting list will be so long that by the time you actually get it you'll already be salivating over something else.
Unlike the Maverick, this is a cash cow for Toyota, and they make something like 200k+ a year. Should only be supply limited for the first few months. Not too many people are fighting to buy at these interest rates.
@@thatoneotherotherguy I agree. But the Maverick could also have been a cash cow for Ford had they anticipated demand, and ramped up production accordingly. They really dropped the ball with the Maverick, and many customers who were interested in it and may have bought one, eventually moved on to something else due to the mark-ups and lack of availability. Ford fumbled the roll-out, and have yet to recover.
@@DeepDishPizzayes it is lol I got between 19-20mpg at best, my dad’s ram 1500 would get that doing the same commute…. The V6 was all top end power, horrible choice for a truck other than it’s reliable.
It will be like the Limited trim of the 4Runner and the 200 series Land Cruiser. It has a lockable, limited slip Torsen center diff with a two-speed transfer case. Having owned a 4th gen 4Runner and a 200 series, I can tell you that the full time 4wd works very well. With the center diff unlocked the system is unnoticeable in normal driving but gives great traction in slippery condition. When you go off-road just lock the center diff.
I hope Toyota knows just how reliability is going to weigh into who might purchase these trucks. The frontier is a tempting option because it still has a V6, but I think Toyota knows that and has (hopefully) tortured this 4 cylinder beyond recognition to ensure it works well
I agree. I would still wait a year if I was buying one of these for teething issues to be resolved. I know the Tundra had issues that took it off many must buy lists from various outlets.
If the v6 turbo tundra is any clue , it's not nearly as reliable as the ol v6 , parts availability and price is going to be astronomically higher than the 3.5l . Love the look, love the seating position, but it sounds terrible and not nearly the power gain I was hoping for. I drove it yesterday in sr5 trim.
Jack can hold his own with the big boys as he's a mechanical engineer in his own right. With respect to the new 4 cylinder, you folks do realize that it's Toyota we are talking about right? I believe Toyota knows something about building reliable four cylinder engines.
I had to rent a shitty 4cyl turbo ford ranger to take from Northern Illinois to the bowels of Indiana - I was surprised on the gas mileage and the power that load of wheeled fecal matter gave me. I was also surprised about how "big" the "small" trucks are now getting....If Toyota can outdo that Ranger they really have a winner on their hands.
There seems to be a lot to like about this new model. Not a fan of the megasized screen, but appreciate that Toyota has retained the physical controls.
I’ve got a manual TRD Sport+ on order and my anticipation is building, and so far it I’m optimistic. It looks like Toyota hasn’t fucked it up and vastly improved everything I wanted and needed (mostly ergonomics because tall). Cheers for addressing the manual, I’m glad it’s not a point of complaint.
The T24A will be just as reliable as the 2GR. The 2GR wasn't the most reliable engine when it came out, originally in the Lexus IS and GS. VVTi gears and valve springs were all things I had done under warranty on mine. The T24A has been out for 2 years in the Lexus NX and has had a few minor gremlins but should be fine after the a year of Taco production. And as you mentioned, it's based on their A25A non-turbo 4 launch 5 years ago but in many ways is a more conservative design (belt driven water pump, simpler intake VVT) Mark my words, people will be singing the praises of the "tried and true" T24A when they replace it in 10 years...
@@tonysterbenc it's not terrible -- understand something though; the spark plugs have to be changed every 40k, and you HAVE to use the right oil spec in that engine. Depending on the application, some versions have electronic wastegates for the turbo, some have mechanical wastegates. In the engine that was replaced, the wrong oil spec was used for one, and two, his red oil pressure light came on while he was driving on the highway-- he didn't stop, the engine kept running and he drove right to the dealership. When he got there, that's when it stopped running. He completely wiped out 4 out of the 6 connecting rod bearings due to lack of oil.
I had a 2010 FJ Cruiser. Sold it in 2014 for exactly what I paid for it. Have a 2018 4 Runner. Toyota is offering me ridiculous numbers to get it back lol. Oh btw. Not a single idiot light has gone off in either truck. Ever.
@HEMI345S And then another 6 years on the 4 Runner ya pickle poker. That's 2010 to 2023 with zero issues. Unlike my Nitro, SRT-8 Magnum and Ram SRT-10. Total pos Dodge girl. 😂
Bubba, if those vehicles are so great, why are you changing them as often as my underwear ???? All my Chrysler vehicles are over 10 years old with no issues ... Your CR brainwashing is amazing ...@@claviclenotch1876
When that music started I was expected some Cowboy to start singing with his rusty voice 😉 PS, According to the "Car Care Nut" we shouldn't worry about Toyota's new 4 cyl. Turbo engine's reliablility. We will see.... (HEY, NEW END LOGO)
Great review as always. I watched the deep dive when you guys were in Hawaii. The new Tacoma seems like they've fixed majority of the previous gen issues. Loved the off-road bit too! The music was fun, reminded me of a happy scene from lord of the rings or something 🤣.
My only gripe with the new Tacoma is the solid rear access cab. I use the rear doors on my 23 access cab every single day for my needs. Was really one of the few big nails in the coffin for me with going this gen or last gen. I have the 4cyl n/a on mine and Iv never had an issues with it (power, capability fuel, ect.)
It's great that you find the 2TR 4cyl to have enough power for you, but that's a minority of users. That thing is a DOG, a dog's dog, in high altitude areas, mountain passes, hauling any kind of weight, or accelerating enough to avoid a crash. Wildly slow by modern standards. I'm halfway surprised they never dropped the 2.7L in the outgoing generation.
As a FJ owner, I kept eying how they mount the gas tank as I'm tired of replacing gas tank straps out here in the rust belt. Curious what the hybrid brings as I'm torn on a new Taco or 4Runner on the refresh.
The T24 I think will be a solid motor; it's largely based off the a25 which is in everything. That and Toyota is actively listening to consumers, which is stellar compared to honda and others who ignore problems unless a lawsuit comes across their desk. I have a highlander with the 2.4 and was having issues with hesitation and surging. Toyota listened, and within a few months, a new ECU revision was released and it fixed 95% of the issue. Everyone else said the same thing with the 4.0 going away in favor of the 3.5 - oh it's questionable reliability, especially with D4-S which was new at the time - take a look. One of the best v6s that were made within the last decade or so. No doubt they're not going to risk their reputation on it's replacement when their customer base was borderline brainwashed into thinking 'turbo bad'
Toyota is also one of the last holdouts for shoving turbo engines in passenger vehicles. I'd like to think that means they have spent time in R&D before pushing out a compliance product like other manufacturers.
I would like to agree with you, but forced induction is more than just a new engine design. The tundras have been having engine issues with the new 3.5 turbo. It’s not that simple I’m afraid.
@@KubanKevin the first batch was because they used some stupid electronic waste gates. T24 is all old school vacuum lines and stuff that's been around since the 90s. Just like some of the best forced inductions arguably made to this point in time, the 1/2JZ's which were from the same exact company coincidently
I guess I am just not a Toyota truck guy. Don’t care for the styling inside or out. Inside looks full of cheap hard plastics and the outside is over styled with fake vents on the front. But…I am sure people will flock to it as always.
The previous V6 was truly an awful truck engine. I'm sure the 4 cylinder is better at everything despite sounding disgusting. 40k for a base leaf spring 4wd 4 popper is insane though. 45k for one with a screen of this century and coil springs like a XJ Cherokee from 1987 is also cruel and unusual punishment. These prices are truly insane and I think buying one at these prices is a borderline mental disorder.
Nope... Had 4 from 1986 to 2016 (86, 2000, 08 & 16). Sitting on the 2016 SR5 4x4 now, and it will be my last. Unless they build that Scout mini-truck the endless rumors talk about which I doubt as its a red hot market and toyota does not make big moves anymore....
I will not cry over losing the V6. I have a 2022 and the V6 is garbage for a truck engine. Can't wait to trade up for the torque of the turbo 4. I've driven turbocharged vehicles for over 25 years and I have zero concerns about reliability.
Hopefully you guys get some more time with the 4th gen Tacoma. I would really like to see a detailed review regarding the on road differences between the various trim levels. While most of the forum bros are busy adding lift kits, the truth is that the vast majority of miles will be on pavement. How is the ride quality and handling of the TRD Sport vs TRD Off Road vs SR5 vs Limited? Toyota claims that they all have different suspension tuning but I've never seen a comprehensive comparison.
A midsize truck for well over 40k, Toyota had to make improvements over the old truck to justify the cost. Makes me glad for my 2019 Nissan Frontier 4x4 xcab a basic midsize truck the cost 28k new. I guess it depends on your financial priorities and what will work best for you. I'm good having a comfortable, reliable, Affordable truck with good practical utility.
lol clearly they do. I'm keeping my 15 TRD OR with the 6 speed as long as possible. hard pass on this new 4 cylinder crap, but at least it made the value of my truck go up even more.@@Ni-fg6je
@@JacesOwnWorld because I live in Colorado and go off roading and camping. Side by sides are fun but they take all the fun out of rock crawling on trails for me. You don't have to think through your lines. That's why you see women and children driving rentals on difficult trails here. I will say SXS are awesome in Arizona and would definitely buy one if I lived there. If my 3rd gen performs just fine with no regard and 34s I think the hybrid would handle 35s.
@@Ww8.3 While I agree with the torque number, people are definitely going squeeze more than 320whp out of these. After a tune, exhaust, and a down pipe lol, along with 93 octane. You know Toyota has these motors tuned so conservative, they probably run on cheap ass 87 octane. I feel like the drivetrain will be able to handle the 500 torque also, especially if the hybrid makes 465 torque stock.
@@goforbroke2 I don’t think it’s a big enough turbo imo. What turbo is in this thing? I believe it’s similar to a focus ST? I had a mazdaspeed 3 with a ko4 turbo (larger than st) and maxed out it was 325whp on e85
@@Ww8.3 It probably is a little turbo. These trucks are apparently making peak torque at like 1700 rpm, great for hauling or roasting the tires… The hybrids are probably going to have more potential though. The hybrid Highlander and Lexus RX500 hybrid sport both have 360+ hp stock and it’s the same engine in the hybrid Tacoma.
How MUCH boost do these run? It's got to be over 20-25 PSI. Do you have to run premium gas to run these? Let's see how the turbo 4 cylinders Tacomas hold up if they're used as a truck.
@@DB-sd3cwMeh. Like most of these things probably doesn't add enough to be really worth worrying about. People ple that are gonna lift might as well chuck it.
I had a 21 TRD Off Road 6ft bed Tacoma for around 32k miles, bought it because of the reliability reputation and got sucked into the lifestyle marketing if I'm honest. I couldn't believe how overhyped it was. The backseat was really small and to put a V6 with that powerband in a truck was such a dumb decision...idk who thought peak torque at 4k rpm in a truck was a good idea. Combined with the absolute dimwit of a transmission, you end up needing 5th and sometimes even 4th gear just maintain speed on the slightest of inclines. Once you're moving and you rev it out, it's decently quick but it's such a dog from a stop. If you drive up in the mountains, you end up having to put it into the "manual" mode and limit the max gear just so it won't go from 4th to 5th to 4th to 5th to 4th before you reach the top of a hill. Nothing like the engine being pegged at 5k rpm just to go up a hill. It's not something you would really notice on a quick test drive and I was coming from an SS 1LE so no regular truck is going to feel quick compared to that lol. After living with it a while....you realize how awful it is. Taking it on road trips it was horrible. Any type of inclines you're lucky to get 16mpg and the fuel tank isn't very big so you're getting maybe 300 mile range....Gas prices skyrocketed about a year after I bought it and it become so expensive just to commute in. I can't imagine towing anything with that engine if you have any mechanical sympathy, it's going to be screaming at 5k rpm to move anywhere and you're going to get like 9mpg Leaf springs would get squeaky anytime you take it off road and get some dirt on it. So now it squeaks over every little bump and sounds like a truck with 200k miles on it until you really wash it out or grease the bushings. The Taco isn't exactly "small" anymore, it's about the size of an 06 Tundra. I didn't want a full size truck at the time...but in hindsight should have gotten one. It was basically all the cons of a full size with none of the benefits. The 6ft bed was super nice when it came to hauling stuff, but the interior is pretty cramped for anyone but the driver. If your only real goal is to keep a truck forever and have minimal maintenance...the Taco is probably great...but once the honeymoon period wore off you realize how long Toyota has been coasting off their reputation. 10 years ago it would have been fine and it also wouldn't have been 40k. I'm honestly amazed at how much people claim to love their Tacomas from that generation given how few of people keep their cars 100k+ miles. The ancient Frontier was/is even smaller, but probably would have been a better driving experience. The interior was perfectly fine, hard plastics were great as you can just wipe them off and they hold up to abuse well. Cloth seats were fine, no complaints. Buttons/touch screen all laid out well and work fine. But the powertrain was god awful.... Lifestyle changes....ended up swapping it for a Rav4 Hybrid. Other than my T levels dropping from trading pure masculinity on wheels in for a tree hug machine....haven't missed the Taco a bit. It's awesome not spending $500+ a month on gas, has actual torque, and doesn't need a shipping container lane to maneuver around. Rav4 has it's own quirks, but it's way more pleasant to commute and drive around. The Tacoma was great off road, but it sucked ass on road. Hopefully these new engines pan out, I could have forgiven the majority of my gripes if it got a little better real world fuel economy and a had a useable powerband. It has the powerband of an S2000 but it's missing 2500 rpm lol.
Really hoping Subaru will take notes here for their new Brat. You got to love that Toyota is bringing out all these turbo motors and even keeping the manual transmissions!
Hard NO for me. Reasons small engine (turbo 4-cylinder) more stress, smaller gas tank (21 to 18 gal), shorter range (306 - 385miles), mirror don’t folded automatically, no side camera for drivers, roughly the same mpg. Yes there are some improvements but a lot of them can be done on the previous generation with aftermarket products. The hybrid electric battery is nice but will burn out over time after 10 years. That will be the 1st inconvenience for the owners. The price of the truck is overpriced and not worth it.
I hate it that the second row is always made for the size of children only. You just cant fit 4-5 grown ups in cars build like this. There is no knee room and comfort back there
If you need to hold 4-5 adults you either need a full size truck or should just not use a truck for that purpose. Thats part of the reason why trucks have gotten so expensive and huge.
People who are interested in this truck should seriously consider the all new Nissan Frontier. Much cheaper price point, better-sounding & reliable V6, all the technology bells and whistles, along with subjectively better looks. I own a loaded PRO-X from the very few first batches Nissan produced and can’t be happier (apart from some minor electric issues).
I thought it looked great. I’m very interested in how much the gas mileage improved. When I bought my Highlander I was originally interested in the Tacoma. When I seen the gas mileage specs I couldn’t do it. I will look forward to a more detailed review of a TRD or any upper class Tacoma down the road. Good job guys.
@@MattGoesSkiing 2mpg with a massive torque boost ain't bad. The old 3.5L was thirsty if you sent it past 3000RPM, and most people did, with how much power it didn't make. EPA tests also get harder every year--comparing a 2024 to the ratings of a 2020 isn't fair. If the 3.5L was sticking around, there's a good chance it would get re-rated lower. I have a 4.0L 5th gen 4Runner. They have dropped its EPA rating twice in the last decade despite no mechanical changes. The hybrid Tacomas will likely tack on a couple extra mpg for those that care enough.
Folks tend to forget that this isn’t the first time Toyota has put a turbo’d 4 cylinder in their truck. I have faith that Toyota has done it’s due diligence to make this a reliable truck but only time will tell. Killer video as always yall!
Like the look. !! Had many Tacomas. .working. them hard. Yes. OVERLOADED and loved them in snow. NEVER had a problem. I hope reliably is there. It's time to upgrade 😊😊😊😊
not spending 40 to50k on a four banger truck.@@allanstephenson9336
And now that faith is gone after the huge diesel recall/scandal 😅
Lots of new Taco videos out this morning. So the first stop had to be the two dudes whose automotive opinion I trust the most. From the moment I saw y'all throwing deli meats into a door trim panel I knew -- these guys are no bullshit, straight shooters.
Unreal meat slobbering
Same. I have to to work now but gotta watch this channel first.😅
Word. When embargoes drop, I want the Savagegeese big brain scoop, not some clickbaiter talking around the exterior for 15 minutes, praising it like they work for the manufacturer, and filming a quarter mile run in it.
Toyota is marketing these turbo trucks hard! Why? Because these are the trucks that ABSOLUTELY NOBODY asked for! Do you want a smaller more complicated engine that's also ridiculously expensive to repair and maybe half as reliable as the previous gens? Oh and they will throw in nearly the same MPG as last years model for free. These are Toyotas equivalent of the Ford Mustang II.
@@uploderpilot sounds like if you want a new midsize truck, you'll be buying a Frontier and nothing else. The world has moved on. We figured out how to make turbo engines reliable. These new trucks make more torque at 1700rpm than the old wheezy V6 made at 4600rpm. They function way better at high altitude. There's plenty of positives, which is why every mdsize truck maker that has money (so, not Nissan who updated the V6 on their 2005 truck) went turbo. Don't yell at the clouds over it.
I bought a 2023 Tacoma 9 months ago, it has been a great truck. I got the 2023 knowing the new one was coming. I figured that if the new Tacoma was all that much better, I could wait a couple more model years for them to shake out any bugs and then trade in. I'm reasonably sure it will be fine. By then, all the me first buyers will be gone and you might be able to buy one for a decent deal.
Not a bad strategy
More likely you'll find you are glad you kept your current truck. I am SO glad I kept my Tundra and didn't go with the gen 3.
Smart.
@@GWOTKoolAid it seems that the price difference has been about 8k. Seems about right.
Stay away from turbos, just keep yours.
I bought a 19 Tacoma (Off road) new in Jan of 2019 - and I put 249,000 trouble free miles on it, many of those in 4WD. In Sep of 23 I traded it in on a 23 Tacoma (Pro).
I now have 24,000 miles on this truck. I do like most of the changes on the new 4th Gen (I HATE the large screen), but the turbo scares me, especially with as much as I drive. I may give the new Tacoma a try in 3-4 years, as I can see how folks that drive a lot are faring.
I'm definitely not crying over the old V-6/6-speed combo. It was absolutely terrible to drive.
Pretty exciting that the one TRD color is McRib sauce red. I'll have to drive my '94 Yota pickup to the dealership to test out a new one...
I liked the music choices in this one! More exciting and movie like.
Hopefully, sales will be huge and I might have a chance at affording a 10-15 year old Tacoma.
I get people have opinions, blah blah blah, but it's really hard to understand someone thinking the styling looks bad. I think this truck is gorgeous.
Agreed .
Commitment to the Taco Tuesday 🤝
Of course the embargo was lifted today. It’s TACO TUESDAY!
Wonder if itll be riddled with a plethora of issues like the tundra
I want Mark to drive the shit out of this truck and give his opinion!
Did not expect to see my house in this lol.
Head of tacoma marketing: all systems go
Must be the camera because it sounds amazing! Lol
Ripping up and down the canyon roads near Malibu. Haven’t done that in a while, thanks to gas prices
I wonder where was this off-road trail at? The HiHy needs some light off-roading and a layer of dirt to be called a SUV
Nearly 40k for the entry level non-contractor (SR5) poverty spec TRD is a tough sell when an F150 with a 5.0 Coyote is 5k less and realistically superior in every single way - even reliability, because the Coyote is proven, the trans is sorted and the F150 platform itself is solid. I suspect most people are going to be buying the SR5 for 30k-32k.
I just priced out the cheapest F150 you can get with the 5.0 and it's a little over $38k. Yes you get a V8, but the rest of the truck is pretty much tin can work spec 2wd. I would much rather have a $40k Taco and enjoy my truck.
Ill consider this truck used in 5 years when people arent salivating to be on waiting lists paying a 10k markup in a bad economy where everyone is poorer than they were 10 years ago
"You put your phone in here it's not gonna fly out like a projectile and incapacitate your passenger"
That was oddly specific lol.
Well Done.
I'm fucking first.
Dang
Good job. You win a CVT Nissan.
@@bobbbobb4663 I was thinking a CVT Toyota even better 😂
@@HughesyTechGeese spent all of their budget on that drone so you win a CVT Versa. Happy motoring!
@@bobbbobb4663 😀😀😂
That front end seems like it has unnecessary plastic bits dropping super low, affecting ground clearance/approach angle for no reason.
It's alright.
I’ve never been afraid of a pick up truck.
The truck payment is what everyone is afraid of
Nothing beats the previous gen 4 cylinder tacoma. Nothing like hearing that baby scream to 5000 rpm to get up a mild Incline 😊
The 2.7 might be Toyota's most reliable current engine. Many longtime Toyota techs say they've never seen an 08 and up 2.7 torn apart. Might need a head gasket and water pump before it hits 200k miles but that's about it
I have a 2020 2.7L and the adaptive cruise is kinda hilarious at how much it downshifts and revs up to get back up to speed.
This new 2.4 base engine turbo should be fine. The Hybrid Max system however, is still brand new, it was just released 1 year ago. The potential repair costs for that thing will be way more expensive than a regular Prius.
I had a '98 with the 2.7 and a manual. It was awesome, but many compromises. Owned it 16 years.
@@andrewgus8763where the fuck are you getting that from? It’s a nickel metal hydride battery which Toyota has proven to be reliable in older hybrids, the electric motors will also be fine, so what exactly are you saying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jack has really come a long way since that first Tacoma review ❤
When I think of Jack, I think of a blue Tacoma.
When I think of Jack, I think of Black ◼️🔲
Finally a fully boxed frame, rear disc brakes, an engine/trans that doesn't drive like a dog, better seating position.
Yup, when I test drove the old one I couldn’t find a comfortable seating position. 🤷♂️
This looks like it might fix that issue.👍
Nothing wrong with drums on a baby truck
Us 5th gen 4Runner people might have the oldest engine and transmission, but we do have disc brakes!
@@tuckerhiggins4336maintenance
Boxed frame = less articulation. Frame flex isn't a bad thing.
New king of no depreciation has arrived (minus the 911).
Let’s see how long that motor lasts first.
it's gonna be just fine, it's not like a toyota 4 cylinder is an unknown@@bigchimpin4215
@@bigchimpin4215it’s not a totally new engine. it’s been kicking around for a couple of years already in the Lexus NX and RX, as well as some Toyota SUVs
I think corolla and civics have it beat.
@bigchimpin4215 Been around for years and years in base model lexus vehicles. They last forever as well
As an owner of a left foot I'm glad they kept the manual transmission
I just lease.
@@tonysterbencIDK what your comment is referencing but a big thumbs up 👍
@@davidryder5082 I meant I don't own my left foot. I'd never lease a vehicle, though. :.D
My clapped out 2006 Civic could handle that “off-road course” 😂
That explains how it got clapped out.
It makes me laugh when they call them off road courses. It’s just a dirt road.
Tf is clapped out 😂
Idiot lingo...
Looks immensely better than the new Tundra.
I thought the new Tundras looked ok until I saw one in person. The headlights are really small looking and about 80% of the front end isn't body color, regardless of trim. The ratio of unpainted, injection molded plastic or that chain-link silver design is just too much for the little amount of body color on that front end.
Agreed. Same problem with the Sequoia. Hope it's fixed in the refresh
For real, I'm not sure what they were thinking with the new Tundra. It's fugly.
While I don’t like the huge grill, at least that grill is 100% used for cooling. When you look inside that whale-shark gaping maw, you can see it’s packed full of coolers and condensers. Just don’t get into a fender bender, because that can quickly go from just a body shop appointment to replacing the turbo cooling system.
The new tundra gets uglier the more i see them. So squared off gmc looking. Looks cheap and plasticky too.
The turbo'd 4 cylinder engine is a horrible downgrade in every way. Transmission seems like an upgrade. That horrible massive ipad needs to be ripped out. 40% price increase over the previous gen is asinine.
$40K base truck?!?! What a world.
It is an upgraded version. He said the most base with upgraded suspension. However I do agree even 35k for a base midsize truck is insane
That's what I was thinking
That’s before dealer markup 😊
@@austinfrazier7325 this is very true...one thing they don't tell you on these videos... Granted not all dealers do markups but still you will most likely not get it at that price.
we gotta stop people from buying trucks for a year or else I doubt prices will get better
As someone that wrenches on his own stuff thank you for showing the mechanicals!
A '85 Dodge Aries K and a 2024 Toyota Tacoma are 2 different spectrums.
hopefully The Car Care Nut does a video, he does a deep dive into the mechanicals
Yes! CCN is my go to Toyota channel@@pkdude5334
Too much information! 😫😜🤡
I have to admit, I was a bit turned on seeing the little oil filter drain spout. It's the little things that matter when wrenching
Toyota really needs to make a Maverick competitor. The Tacoma has now beome a toy for the wealthy. Most current Tacomas I see online hover in the 40k range. These are supose to be the affordable car brands. Yet they keep forgetting the category of consumers that made them what they are and no one is taking their place.
Well, i finally got a TRD Sport with Premium package. The Tacomas you can’t find easily now are the ones with Premium package. Toyota may actually know what people want and will pay for. Sucks so expensive but people are speaking with their wallets and orders.
As the owner of a manual 3rd gen TRD Sport, I'd absolutely love to see more content on the manual trans TRD models. 4 cylinder turbo doesn't bother me, the torque increase sounds like a worthwhile trade. Also like the coil spring rear suspension. Rear disks are nice from an easier maintenance perspective I suppose, but I've never had a problem with the braking on my 2nd or 3rd gen Tacomas. And my back wheels are always clean 😁.
I can see a manual TRD Sport 4th gen in my future, after I wait a few years for Toyota to work the new model bugs out. As I always do, GM taught me that lesson in 1993 with the Camaro.
Honestly, you nailed it! I’ll hope to hear a great review in say 3years😂. For now I’ll stick with the 5th gen 4Runner trd off-road.
Check out Driving Sports TV video! He drives the manual and automatic.
To be honest. I just want to see the base Tacoma. I know the TRD and high trims are more exciting, but we´ve been using the Tacoma as a work truck so I just want to know how that looks, feels, rides, equipment, and things that may lack compared to the competition.
TFL Truck reviews the cheapest 4x4 tacoma you can buy.
@@shnerp Thanks!. I'll make a little time today to check it out :)
Joining the Taco fan fest with my two cents: Just caught the review and I'm torn between nostalgia for my old Tacoma and excitement for the new one! 😄 The fully boxed frame and rear disc brakes sound like a dream, but I'll miss the character of the older models. Can anyone with hands-on experience weigh in on how the 4 cylinder turbo feels compared to the old screamers? Also, hats off to Toyota for keeping the manual option - it's like a rare gem these days! Curious about the hybrid model's performance though, especially for off-roading and towing. Any insiders got the scoop? #TacomaTransformation 🚗💨
Nice!
Much like the Ford Maverick, I suspect that getting one will be like pulling teeth, and that the waiting list will be so long that by the time you actually get it you'll already be salivating over something else.
I’m not excited for any of these trucks because they basically don’t exist. If the list is long or the markups are there, it’s all trash.
Unlike the Maverick, this is a cash cow for Toyota, and they make something like 200k+ a year. Should only be supply limited for the first few months. Not too many people are fighting to buy at these interest rates.
@@thatoneotherotherguy I agree. But the Maverick could also have been a cash cow for Ford had they anticipated demand, and ramped up production accordingly. They really dropped the ball with the Maverick, and many customers who were interested in it and may have bought one, eventually moved on to something else due to the mark-ups and lack of availability. Ford fumbled the roll-out, and have yet to recover.
Always not a good idea to buy the first year of a redesign anyway
the maverick does not have a frame, it's not a truck. This has a full frame. Maverick will break immedietly after going fast off-road
Yeah im crying about the V6 that had the MPG of a V8 and the power of a 4 banger 😆
Stop hating on Toyota. That statement isn’t true at all.
@@DeepDishPizzayes it is lol
I got between 19-20mpg at best, my dad’s ram 1500 would get that doing the same commute….
The V6 was all top end power, horrible choice for a truck other than it’s reliable.
@@NDEEZMiata Once again, please stop with the lies. Go troll someone else.
This'll be the only Tacoma video I need today, thanks fellas.
Only Tacoma vid we need ever. Except for any other Tacoma bids SG puts out.
@@Etaripamai47 so true
I'm really interested in seeing how the Limited drives with the hybrid and full time 4x4.
It will be like the Limited trim of the 4Runner and the 200 series Land Cruiser. It has a lockable, limited slip Torsen center diff with a two-speed transfer case. Having owned a 4th gen 4Runner and a 200 series, I can tell you that the full time 4wd works very well. With the center diff unlocked the system is unnoticeable in normal driving but gives great traction in slippery condition. When you go off-road just lock the center diff.
Dropping this video on a Taco Tuesday got my wife’s boyfriend so amped up, thanks boys.
I hope Toyota knows just how reliability is going to weigh into who might purchase these trucks. The frontier is a tempting option because it still has a V6, but I think Toyota knows that and has (hopefully) tortured this 4 cylinder beyond recognition to ensure it works well
I agree. I would still wait a year if I was buying one of these for teething issues to be resolved. I know the Tundra had issues that took it off many must buy lists from various outlets.
If the v6 turbo tundra is any clue , it's not nearly as reliable as the ol v6 , parts availability and price is going to be astronomically higher than the 3.5l . Love the look, love the seating position, but it sounds terrible and not nearly the power gain I was hoping for. I drove it yesterday in sr5 trim.
That black spoiler/splitter or whatever it is needs to be removed at the dealership.
Jack can hold his own with the big boys as he's a mechanical engineer in his own right. With respect to the new 4 cylinder, you folks do realize that it's Toyota we are talking about right? I believe Toyota knows something about building reliable four cylinder engines.
Yet the turbo V-6 in the Tundra has been problematic.
I had to rent a shitty 4cyl turbo ford ranger to take from Northern Illinois to the bowels of Indiana - I was surprised on the gas mileage and the power that load of wheeled fecal matter gave me. I was also surprised about how "big" the "small" trucks are now getting....If Toyota can outdo that Ranger they really have a winner on their hands.
There seems to be a lot to like about this new model. Not a fan of the megasized screen, but appreciate that Toyota has retained the physical controls.
As someone who used to own a 4cyl 5spd 1985 Toyota Pickup Xtra Cab, im glad to see a return to form 😂 about time for a McFly special
Hello McFly
I love how Mark seems like he literally wouldn't be there if it wasn't his job lol
TACO TUESDAY!
Ah the ol tacked on screen look. A new classic. Other than that looks nice enough but cant wait to see the mark up and toyota tax controversy.
Start button pod looks really tacked on too at least from the camera angles I’ve seen so far
Yep, it just looks lazy and out of place. It's even worse when they're vertical/portrait mode like Ford does with most of their vehicles now.
The engine noise in the video doesn’t sound that bad.
It's fake noise pumped into the cabin.
You would have to be crazy to buy this over a Frontier Pro4x that has a proven powertrain.
Newsflash: Despite all you city folk saying it's off-road, it isn't. You are driving on a road, it just happens to be a dirt road.
Why does watching you crudely paw at dashboard features bring me so much joy?
Gotta love the freshly groomed "offroad" test track.
No…it is taco Tuesday
I’ve got a manual TRD Sport+ on order and my anticipation is building, and so far it I’m optimistic. It looks like Toyota hasn’t fucked it up and vastly improved everything I wanted and needed (mostly ergonomics because tall). Cheers for addressing the manual, I’m glad it’s not a point of complaint.
Reliability is mentioned but doesn’t Toyota make a ton of 4s at this point?
Time will tell… their 6 cup turbo in the LS is having rod bearing issues even 4 years after its debut
The T24A will be just as reliable as the 2GR. The 2GR wasn't the most reliable engine when it came out, originally in the Lexus IS and GS. VVTi gears and valve springs were all things I had done under warranty on mine.
The T24A has been out for 2 years in the Lexus NX and has had a few minor gremlins but should be fine after the a year of Taco production.
And as you mentioned, it's based on their A25A non-turbo 4 launch 5 years ago but in many ways is a more conservative design (belt driven water pump, simpler intake VVT)
Mark my words, people will be singing the praises of the "tried and true" T24A when they replace it in 10 years...
@@kngofdestinyI've replaced one LS500 engine when I was a Lexus tech; it wasn't because of rod bearings either.
@@LoneWolfSparty Overall, what was your experience with that engine?
@@tonysterbenc it's not terrible -- understand something though; the spark plugs have to be changed every 40k, and you HAVE to use the right oil spec in that engine. Depending on the application, some versions have electronic wastegates for the turbo, some have mechanical wastegates.
In the engine that was replaced, the wrong oil spec was used for one, and two, his red oil pressure light came on while he was driving on the highway-- he didn't stop, the engine kept running and he drove right to the dealership. When he got there, that's when it stopped running. He completely wiped out 4 out of the 6 connecting rod bearings due to lack of oil.
I had a 2010 FJ Cruiser. Sold it in 2014 for exactly what I paid for it. Have a 2018 4 Runner. Toyota is offering me ridiculous numbers to get it back lol.
Oh btw. Not a single idiot light has gone off in either truck.
Ever.
Hard to believe that any idiot light will come on in any truck that's only 4 years old these days. Wake up, it's not early 80's anymore ... 😀😀😀
@HEMI345S And then another 6 years on the 4 Runner ya pickle poker. That's 2010 to 2023 with zero issues. Unlike my Nitro, SRT-8 Magnum and Ram SRT-10. Total pos Dodge girl. 😂
Bubba, if those vehicles are so great, why are you changing them as often as my underwear ???? All my Chrysler vehicles are over 10 years old with no issues ... Your CR brainwashing is amazing ...@@claviclenotch1876
When that music started I was expected some Cowboy to start singing with his rusty voice 😉 PS, According to the "Car Care Nut" we shouldn't worry about Toyota's new 4 cyl. Turbo engine's reliablility. We will see.... (HEY, NEW END LOGO)
Internet: We don’t like the way it looks.
Toyota: Haha, too bad, we don’t plan on a redesign for another 15 years and this truck will outlive you!
Great review as always. I watched the deep dive when you guys were in Hawaii. The new Tacoma seems like they've fixed majority of the previous gen issues.
Loved the off-road bit too! The music was fun, reminded me of a happy scene from lord of the rings or something 🤣.
My only gripe with the new Tacoma is the solid rear access cab. I use the rear doors on my 23 access cab every single day for my needs. Was really one of the few big nails in the coffin for me with going this gen or last gen. I have the 4cyl n/a on mine and Iv never had an issues with it (power, capability fuel, ect.)
Whomst asked?
Well… it’s a 23. I wouldn’t brag about not having issues with it when it’s a year old
It's great that you find the 2TR 4cyl to have enough power for you, but that's a minority of users. That thing is a DOG, a dog's dog, in high altitude areas, mountain passes, hauling any kind of weight, or accelerating enough to avoid a crash. Wildly slow by modern standards. I'm halfway surprised they never dropped the 2.7L in the outgoing generation.
You can't get a 2024 2 door manual trans Tacoma either
You got like 10k on that truck and you're talking about no issues lol
The fake vents under the headlights look like mascara that is running. Which seems to undermine how butch this truck is trying to be.
That 2.4 turbo in my 84 solid axle toyota pickup would be the dream 🤤
Copart is your friend.
The old V6/tranny was so dull and terrible. Felt like you drove around with the parking brake on.
As a FJ owner, I kept eying how they mount the gas tank as I'm tired of replacing gas tank straps out here in the rust belt. Curious what the hybrid brings as I'm torn on a new Taco or 4Runner on the refresh.
as a 4th gen 4unner owner and an fj owner, i think we definitely should wait for the 4runner refresh!
@@jf52872004 V8 4runner here with a harumph
Toyota lost customers with last gen tacoma's terrible 3.5 engine and bad tranny programming
The T24 I think will be a solid motor; it's largely based off the a25 which is in everything. That and Toyota is actively listening to consumers, which is stellar compared to honda and others who ignore problems unless a lawsuit comes across their desk. I have a highlander with the 2.4 and was having issues with hesitation and surging. Toyota listened, and within a few months, a new ECU revision was released and it fixed 95% of the issue. Everyone else said the same thing with the 4.0 going away in favor of the 3.5 - oh it's questionable reliability, especially with D4-S which was new at the time - take a look. One of the best v6s that were made within the last decade or so. No doubt they're not going to risk their reputation on it's replacement when their customer base was borderline brainwashed into thinking 'turbo bad'
Agreed
Toyota is also one of the last holdouts for shoving turbo engines in passenger vehicles. I'd like to think that means they have spent time in R&D before pushing out a compliance product like other manufacturers.
@@matthewshultz8762 AGREED
I would like to agree with you, but forced induction is more than just a new engine design. The tundras have been having engine issues with the new 3.5 turbo. It’s not that simple I’m afraid.
@@KubanKevin the first batch was because they used some stupid electronic waste gates. T24 is all old school vacuum lines and stuff that's been around since the 90s. Just like some of the best forced inductions arguably made to this point in time, the 1/2JZ's which were from the same exact company coincidently
I guess I am just not a Toyota truck guy. Don’t care for the styling inside or out. Inside looks full of cheap hard plastics and the outside is over styled with fake vents on the front. But…I am sure people will flock to it as always.
Back seat too small. Bed too small. Me no buy.
This is a beautiful truck. I don’t mind the turbo 4 banger either. I would love to own one if trucks weren’t so Damn expensive now days
The previous V6 was truly an awful truck engine. I'm sure the 4 cylinder is better at everything despite sounding disgusting. 40k for a base leaf spring 4wd 4 popper is insane though. 45k for one with a screen of this century and coil springs like a XJ Cherokee from 1987 is also cruel and unusual punishment. These prices are truly insane and I think buying one at these prices is a borderline mental disorder.
Competent and mainstream truck, could be code named the 'Coma.
Nope... Had 4 from 1986 to 2016 (86, 2000, 08 & 16). Sitting on the 2016 SR5 4x4 now, and it will be my last.
Unless they build that Scout mini-truck the endless rumors talk about which I doubt as its a red hot market and toyota does not make big moves anymore....
I will not cry over losing the V6. I have a 2022 and the V6 is garbage for a truck engine. Can't wait to trade up for the torque of the turbo 4. I've driven turbocharged vehicles for over 25 years and I have zero concerns about reliability.
The hybrid is gonna be so fun to drive.
Forced induction doesn't increase the lifespan and it adds more things to break.
Hopefully you guys get some more time with the 4th gen Tacoma. I would really like to see a detailed review regarding the on road differences between the various trim levels. While most of the forum bros are busy adding lift kits, the truth is that the vast majority of miles will be on pavement. How is the ride quality and handling of the TRD Sport vs TRD Off Road vs SR5 vs Limited? Toyota claims that they all have different suspension tuning but I've never seen a comprehensive comparison.
A midsize truck for well over 40k, Toyota had to make improvements over the old truck to justify the cost. Makes me glad for my 2019 Nissan Frontier 4x4 xcab a basic midsize truck the cost 28k new. I guess it depends on your financial priorities and what will work best for you. I'm good having a comfortable, reliable, Affordable truck with good practical utility.
The major issue they needed to fix was the gear hunting. If they fixed that then this is a big improvement over the 3rd
that's why you get the manual.
@@TRUE_GR1T eh nobody wants a manual anymore
lol clearly they do. I'm keeping my 15 TRD OR with the 6 speed as long as possible. hard pass on this new 4 cylinder crap, but at least it made the value of my truck go up even more.@@Ni-fg6je
As a current Tacoma owner my question is, do I still need to cut and weld to fit 33's?
No, TFL confirmed 33s will fit without mods.
@@donleamon8653 what about 35's?
@@herrerajoey2why are you putting 35’s on this pueny small truck in the first place??? Just buy a SXS if you want to actually, for real, off-road…
@@JacesOwnWorld because I live in Colorado and go off roading and camping.
Side by sides are fun but they take all the fun out of rock crawling on trails for me.
You don't have to think through your lines.
That's why you see women and children driving rentals on difficult trails here.
I will say SXS are awesome in Arizona and would definitely buy one if I lived there.
If my 3rd gen performs just fine with no regard and 34s I think the hybrid would handle 35s.
@@JacesOwnWorld lol, and believe me I do go "real off-roading".
😡🤬 GIVE ME A BASE WITH CRANK WINDOWS. NO NAV OR RADIO NEEDED. AND A 4X4 LEAF ALL BELOW $27K...IM IN!
In for the 350 WHP and 400 Torque tuned Tacoma’s.
Interested to see how much abuse these new 4 cyl can take.
Tons of potential, esp once tuned on 91/93 and just a few bolt ons
It’s more like 320whp 500wtq tuned ;)
@@Ww8.3 While I agree with the torque number, people are definitely going squeeze more than 320whp out of these. After a tune, exhaust, and a down pipe lol, along with 93 octane. You know Toyota has these motors tuned so conservative, they probably run on cheap ass 87 octane. I feel like the drivetrain will be able to handle the 500 torque also, especially if the hybrid makes 465 torque stock.
@@goforbroke2 I don’t think it’s a big enough turbo imo. What turbo is in this thing? I believe it’s similar to a focus ST? I had a mazdaspeed 3 with a ko4 turbo (larger than st) and maxed out it was 325whp on e85
@@Ww8.3 It probably is a little turbo. These trucks are apparently making peak torque at like 1700 rpm, great for hauling or roasting the tires…
The hybrids are probably going to have more potential though. The hybrid Highlander and Lexus RX500 hybrid sport both have 360+ hp stock and it’s the same engine in the hybrid Tacoma.
I’m going to try to pre order the hybrid. If im lucky I might see one in 3 years
How MUCH boost do these run? It's got to be over 20-25 PSI. Do you have to run premium gas to run these? Let's see how the turbo 4 cylinders Tacomas hold up if they're used as a truck.
Omg that air dam!! 😂😂😂 id be ripping that off first thing 🙈
I thought the same thing the second I saw it. Sadly - gas mileage will suffer as a result.
I like the gas mileage gain, it just looks like money in my wallet instead of my fuel tank
90% of tacoma drivers even leave a paved road. Probably good to just keep it on.
@@DB-sd3cwMeh. Like most of these things probably doesn't add enough to be really worth worrying about.
People ple that are gonna lift might as well chuck it.
I had a 21 TRD Off Road 6ft bed Tacoma for around 32k miles, bought it because of the reliability reputation and got sucked into the lifestyle marketing if I'm honest.
I couldn't believe how overhyped it was. The backseat was really small and to put a V6 with that powerband in a truck was such a dumb decision...idk who thought peak torque at 4k rpm in a truck was a good idea.
Combined with the absolute dimwit of a transmission, you end up needing 5th and sometimes even 4th gear just maintain speed on the slightest of inclines. Once you're moving and you rev it out, it's decently quick but it's such a dog from a stop. If you drive up in the mountains, you end up having to put it into the "manual" mode and limit the max gear just so it won't go from 4th to 5th to 4th to 5th to 4th before you reach the top of a hill. Nothing like the engine being pegged at 5k rpm just to go up a hill.
It's not something you would really notice on a quick test drive and I was coming from an SS 1LE so no regular truck is going to feel quick compared to that lol. After living with it a while....you realize how awful it is. Taking it on road trips it was horrible. Any type of inclines you're lucky to get 16mpg and the fuel tank isn't very big so you're getting maybe 300 mile range....Gas prices skyrocketed about a year after I bought it and it become so expensive just to commute in.
I can't imagine towing anything with that engine if you have any mechanical sympathy, it's going to be screaming at 5k rpm to move anywhere and you're going to get like 9mpg
Leaf springs would get squeaky anytime you take it off road and get some dirt on it. So now it squeaks over every little bump and sounds like a truck with 200k miles on it until you really wash it out or grease the bushings.
The Taco isn't exactly "small" anymore, it's about the size of an 06 Tundra. I didn't want a full size truck at the time...but in hindsight should have gotten one. It was basically all the cons of a full size with none of the benefits. The 6ft bed was super nice when it came to hauling stuff, but the interior is pretty cramped for anyone but the driver.
If your only real goal is to keep a truck forever and have minimal maintenance...the Taco is probably great...but once the honeymoon period wore off you realize how long Toyota has been coasting off their reputation. 10 years ago it would have been fine and it also wouldn't have been 40k. I'm honestly amazed at how much people claim to love their Tacomas from that generation given how few of people keep their cars 100k+ miles. The ancient Frontier was/is even smaller, but probably would have been a better driving experience.
The interior was perfectly fine, hard plastics were great as you can just wipe them off and they hold up to abuse well. Cloth seats were fine, no complaints. Buttons/touch screen all laid out well and work fine. But the powertrain was god awful....
Lifestyle changes....ended up swapping it for a Rav4 Hybrid. Other than my T levels dropping from trading pure masculinity on wheels in for a tree hug machine....haven't missed the Taco a bit. It's awesome not spending $500+ a month on gas, has actual torque, and doesn't need a shipping container lane to maneuver around. Rav4 has it's own quirks, but it's way more pleasant to commute and drive around. The Tacoma was great off road, but it sucked ass on road.
Hopefully these new engines pan out, I could have forgiven the majority of my gripes if it got a little better real world fuel economy and a had a useable powerband. It has the powerband of an S2000 but it's missing 2500 rpm lol.
Really hoping Subaru will take notes here for their new Brat. You got to love that Toyota is bringing out all these turbo motors and even keeping the manual transmissions!
Hard NO for me. Reasons small engine (turbo 4-cylinder) more stress, smaller gas tank (21 to 18 gal), shorter range (306 - 385miles), mirror don’t folded automatically, no side camera for drivers, roughly the same mpg. Yes there are some improvements but a lot of them can be done on the previous generation with aftermarket products. The hybrid electric battery is nice but will burn out over time after 10 years. That will be the 1st inconvenience for the owners. The price of the truck is overpriced and not worth it.
I hate it that the second row is always made for the size of children only. You just cant fit 4-5 grown ups in cars build like this. There is no knee room and comfort back there
If you need to hold 4-5 adults you either need a full size truck or should just not use a truck for that purpose. Thats part of the reason why trucks have gotten so expensive and huge.
Could you recommend full size trucks?
@@Hadronyx1 the Tundra can easily hold 4-5 adults.
blue strips on the interior gotta go. who is this marketed for, 17 year olds?
People who are interested in this truck should seriously consider the all new Nissan Frontier. Much cheaper price point, better-sounding & reliable V6, all the technology bells and whistles, along with subjectively better looks. I own a loaded PRO-X from the very few first batches Nissan produced and can’t be happier (apart from some minor electric issues).
Nothing to fear, unless you want a 2 door with a manual....
I’m hoping the brakes feel better
I would never buy one of these new hyrbrid/TURBO pieces of CRAP. Good job TOYOTA you destroyed a great truck!!!CCC
I thought it looked great. I’m very interested in how much the gas mileage improved. When I bought my Highlander I was originally interested in the Tacoma. When I seen the gas mileage specs I couldn’t do it. I will look forward to a more detailed review of a TRD or any upper class Tacoma down the road. Good job guys.
19/24/21
The gas mileage pretty much didn’t get better
@@MattGoesSkiing 2mpg with a massive torque boost ain't bad. The old 3.5L was thirsty if you sent it past 3000RPM, and most people did, with how much power it didn't make. EPA tests also get harder every year--comparing a 2024 to the ratings of a 2020 isn't fair. If the 3.5L was sticking around, there's a good chance it would get re-rated lower. I have a 4.0L 5th gen 4Runner. They have dropped its EPA rating twice in the last decade despite no mechanical changes. The hybrid Tacomas will likely tack on a couple extra mpg for those that care enough.