Titanic expedition leader: 'No recovery system' setup for this depth of the ocean | Elizabeth Vargas
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- G. Michael Harris, RMS Titanic expedition leader, joins “Elizabeth Vargas Reports"” to discuss the search for a missing OceanGate submersible with five passengers on board in the Atlantic Ocean.
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There's so much fake empathy from people on the news who know that a rescue is impossible. I'm grateful this guy actually just said it.
false hope generates spectacle which results in more views and money, it’s always about the money
You’re right. There’s also a lot of fake empathy here in the YT comments section. 🌈🌞☀🌻🦄
@@quixbixthis right here. 👆
Thought the exact same thing last night. Or these scumbag media outlets use it as a distraction or to take a break from whatever BS narrative that they're pushing.
You just hate the rich!
Oh shutup. You don’t know how this man is feeling. It’s the people on the internet that’s fake like you
that was a 100 times more informative than any other interview i've seen on this situation.
CEO: _"I broke a lot of rules to get this sub launched."_ OMG, did the CEO really say that?
That doesn't exactly sound reassuring. And in other videos I saw the console game controller, I have one exactly the same from my late brother. Three times it broke and he had to repair it. Do they really control this deep diving submersible with that piece of junk?
This guy Michael is definitely very clued up on the different aspects of all the different factors that come into play whilst still being realistic.
@@larsrons7937 Everything about this was insane. I would have never gotten on board that death trap. No way.
@@protorhinocerator142 I wouldn't board this vessel even if I _wanted_ to die. How could I pass on my life insurance to my loved ones if noone ever found my corpse?
*Why* *So* *SERIOUS?* Admit it, *IT* *WAS* *CHEAP,* Just like *Boeing* with the *MAX.* *AHAHAHAHA*
Who needs Certificate, *When* *you* *can* *just* *BribeFAA*
Well *A* *befitting* *name* *Titanic* I see honest Advertisement *AHAHAHAHA*
Finally someone said it. Unless there floating on the surface rescue is almost impossible. Short of being snagged and lost power at a reasonable depth there's zero that can be done
technically it's possible I think the navy has ships with cranes that can go all the way to the bottom the problem is the time left to find it hook it up using a rover and pull it up they have no time left obviously if floating on the surface it would be a lot easier though
I haven’t seen too much footage of subs sent there to help or anything really. I think they know they are gone but they know they gotta pretend like they are doing everything they can to find them or the general population will lose their shit on social media. Imagine if they just said “yaaa, we aren’t going to bother doing anything except comb the surface because we can’t get them”
@@sinistan1002it’s still not possible. They have to literally know the exact location of the sub if it’s intact and rn I guarantee u they are all dead just because of the fact that yeah it says they have like 11 hours of oxygen left but that doesn’t count towards all the panic they had and the amount of times they breathed heavily and hard while this all happened. That makes the amount of oxygen a lot less
Well we need to find a way no matter how impossible. This guy is a real optimist. 😮
It could be that they are tangled up on something. In that case, a they can be pushed free and the sub can float back up on its own.
The owner of this company was reckless. He even fired an engineer that said the glass would not handle the depth.
As usual, greed trumps common sense caution. I agree - the owner was completely reckless.
The whole thing is crazy, usually these greedy people are cowards. He skipped on all sorts of safety but unlike other CEOs he put himself in the danger he created. You don't usually see a scam that the scam artist is also a victim of. He must've really truly believed he was right about the corners he cut and they weren't important, a fool leading rich fools
@@RandomRyan1911 going on a submersible because youre an engineer of the oceans and titanic, every 3 years, on special tested vehicles, is one thing, now wanting to have your own submersible and use it for tourism randomly twice a year, thats crazy
Not an engineer, a business man. If he was an engineer then it would never have been created. Same as the managers of the Titanic building project who decided to remove the water tight doors in the top two decks to save money despite the objections of their engineers. If you're going to do that then you might as well get rid of them all and make it a sinkable ship as opposed to an unsinkable ship.
Just because you could dive to see the titanic doesn’t mean you should Dive to see the titanic.
I respect him for being upfront and honest
Imagine believeing in this guy, oh the irony.
The OceanGate CEO who is trapped on a 22-foot submersible on an ill-fated voyage to see the Titanic wreck once explained how he didn’t hire “50-year-old white guys” with military experience to captain his vessels because they weren’t “inspirational.”
Stockton Rush, 61, added that such expertise was unnecessary because “anybody can drive the sub” with a $30 video game controller.
First man to tell it straight
Trouble is that a story leaked about a Law Suit from a fired Tech who found out that the viewing ports were rated for 1,500 meters while the Titanic is at 4,000 meters.... Basically relying on a supplier's conservative engineering about safe depths. If true, then it was only a matter of WHEN, not if, the sub would be lost!!!
I prey they save them! But I just laughed my but off when this guy said “a broken clocks right twice a day”
and kissing his own butt so we don't have to
The media likes to report on these incidents in the most suspenseful and irresponsible way but this guy just laid it on the line.
No kidding, like why does the public need to have an oxygen timer in the corner for how long these poor people might have left
@@nananyarko9682 "poor" is a funny term to describe people who wasted 250k each to die
@@nananyarko9682fr. I was thinking the same thing
@@nananyarko9682it’s sick really
@@nananyarko9682 seriously, they are treating this like one of those survival game shows, quite frankly I find it very disgusting.
As an ex-submariner, this is one of the most accurate accounts I've seen.
We all know that you've never been in a submarine
@@johnhynes5557 I've eaten a submarine sandwich.
@@johnhynes5557 We all know that you've never touched grass
As a dog owner and a McDonald's customer I can totally agree with you.
The ocean is a deadly environment and respect is a must, it remains undefeated when it comes to man.
We can destroy the ocean with nuclear weapons so yes we are still on top.
@@boss_niko what an immature thing to say. Grow up kid
@@kzr7 what does destroy mean? exactly? cause if you don't dry it the f up, you'd still be at the ocean's mercy going that deep.
She hand delivered my unconscious dumb arse safely ashore - I guess she chose not to defeat me that day bc you’re right. I heard an oceanographer explain that ppl fail to realize the ocean will try to get you every which way. Respect and fear it!
Possibly they are every where
Finally a man with experience and sound reasoning tells it like it is.
Dicks out for the Titan 5
Yup.
The same « white male over 50 with experience » that the CEO of OceanGate used to fire for wokism and democrat BS
Sad he killed 4 people over it
Exactly the type of person the CEO refused to hire for his crew.😂😂
@@R005TERILLUSION Yeah. No 50 year old white guys with a ton of Sub experience need apply. I think the CEO was tired of getting told he was crazy and hired a bunch of yes people and framed it as forward thinking inclusivity. He should have gone down alone.
The more stories come out, the more insane this expedition to their destination becomes!! Is so insane!!
putting a game controller in a boomers hands?
“When I started the business, one of the things you’ll find, there are other sub-operators out there, but they typically have, uh, gentlemen who are ex-military submariners, and they - you’ll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old white guys,” Rush told Teledyne Marine in a newly resurfaced undated Zoom interview.
“I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational " - Stockton Rush, CEO OceanGate
That's right feelings and virtue signalling over expertise and skill. What could go wrong?
Rich people, money, and boredom are a toxic mix.
It is capitalism and freedom from government tyranny at its finest, others would say.
@@BenNSyder What a stupid comment.
He broke a lot of rules and he got everyone killed! This is horrific!
For the love of Fame and Money
Kind of like the Titanic itself😢
@@susanwill6351Nothing like the Titanic
@SilverSurfer87yeah but the passengers don't know as much about this kinda thing as the CEO so it's clear where the real blame lies. They even fired a man who said it was unsafe back in 2018.
Hillarious.
The best interview on the sub I've seen so far. He's willing to admit the reality of the situation, and mention all the other variables other people are looking over.
Hope🙏
@@shortfilmtrending THEY DEAD,,,LOL
If you're right then God was the one who created this situation, keep your religious propaganda to yourself
I understand being sympathetic to the entire situation, but I’m glad someone finally came out and was straight. Ofcourse we hope there’s a miracle where everyone get recovered safely, but the reality is as he just said there’s no coming back from depth of water that deep.
And 96 h was never tested. Pure speculation.
Lets hope for a miracle
Yes, there is.. This time, this vessel didn't came back.
And... the thing can't be opened from the inside.
Paying 250k to have someone bolt me in a metal coffin and chuck me into the depths of the ocean sounds absurd. I feel sorry for the 19 year old young man-he was trusting the adults and their weren’t any.
I appreciate him actually saying look, you need this, this, and this to go down that far and they didn't seem to have those. Therefore, considering all the variables, it's not looking good. And I'm glad he said he wasn't willing to go down in that particular submersible. Smart man.
By now they're all saying they'd pass on that honour. One guy did! Usually goes along with Hamish but chickened out. Wise decision.
If you had known how dangerous it could be, you would have been more afraid of dying on the trip than disappointing a rich guy.
THIS GUY IS REALLY SMART,THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPERTISE AND
HONESTY.. PEOPLE
EVERYWHERE ARE UPSET AND CRYING KNOWING
UNIMAGINABLE FEAR AND PAIN THESE GUYS WENT THROUGH.💔😭
I know people want to still have hope, but if they're on the bottom of the ocean... they know they're goners. It's so scary and heartbreaking to think about these people possibly still being alive down there and just sitting there waiting to die. I'm sure hoping beyond hope that a miracle will happen, but knowing it won't
Yeah. I don't understand why the media has been so positive about this situation. It seems pretty hopeless to me. I don't think they'll ever find this thing whether they survive or not. I think it's lost forever on the ocean floor.
@@felixthecat2786 There's a high probability of that being the case, but in such cases, I think it's worth going the extra mile. Just think of the opposite scenario : after half a day's search, all bets are off and the rescue effort is cancelled. I have a feeling the general public would also take issue with such an approach.
Too many red flangs on this one. British Billionaire explorers. Let sea bring peace to their souls.
@@felixthecat2786 It's some real news, they get to put the scary looking countdown timer on the screen. They are all giddy there.
If there is hope, viewers will keep watching. If people keep watching, ads will keep selling. It's the same reason we have so many news accounts of the titanic in the first place. It's part of the mythos. Human hope and macabre curiosity. The will to live that pushes us to keep searching,.praying for miracles. And the absolute need to know the moment that reality is undeniable.
This is heartbreaking. As a father myself, my heart hurts for the dad and son.
At least they went together
Exactly what I was going to say at least they had each other
They would've died instantly from decompression. Less than a second and done. Maybe heard a slight creek than boom.
@@zyourzgrandzmazThere is no evidence the sub decompressed. It would have been heard by sensors.
@@zyourzgrandzmaz Much better than waiting it out and slowing freezing to death and waiting for the air to run out.
Finally, someone telling it the way it is. RIP, our condolences.
RIP🙏
Yea he doesnt forsee seing his friend ever again... but holds out hope
well but what else is going to be said at this point
people been saying this all week were tf have you numptys been
Love this guys interviews, hes being honest and realistic. We want a good outcome for them but with 8 hours left of oxygen, they're not coming up in time even if found. Unfortunately. Condolences to their families.
No sane person in the world would have agreed to this from the start, sign a waiver,then being bolted up from the outside,a mini sub you can steer with a pc controller, that in itself should have been enough to send alarm bells going off in their heads, no tracker device for an emergency, they just went on this on a wing & a prayer hoping for the best, what these people were thinking from the start is absolutely mind boggling.
That's what I can't figure out, why no tracker. Plain damn stupid.
The crux is they weren't told many of the issues. Saying "you could die" and "the window has only been certified to 1300 m" are two very different ways of saying the same thing. But they hit different.
@@tidusjecht9143They talked about adding one and an emergency buoy. You can deploy it, it floats to the surface on a fishing line and it blinks and beeps and sends radio pings. Then you follow the line down and voilà stricken sub found in 2 hours. It's so cheap I could build it from home depot parts and I am an idiot, I promise. For some reason it wasn't done. EPIRB costs 500 bucks. Every sailboat has one. I think it's even law now. Certainly anything bigger than a small sailboat.
Agreed
@@221b-l3t These people paid $250,000 a pop for this sketchy toy to not even have one of those lmao rip :(
You have a freaking countdown? That has to be one of the most heartless things I've seen the news media do, and that's saying a lot.
didnt notice until you pointed it out. is pretty weird?
That is heartless
More money than sense some wealthy people
It's so silly, like the oxygen is gonna run out that exact second. 96 hours was a very loose estimate
Less time now if it hasn't imploded and they are panicking. That oxygen gone in no time
I was joking earlier today about how excited the media are over this story, and said it was only a matter of time before they display a countdown timer for the oxygen levels. I didn’t think they’d be sleazy enough to actually do it.
The media are gross. We all know they are.
I am shocked how bizarre that countdown is
I was waiting for the countdown, and they surely didn't disappoint.
I thought the same thin the whole countdown is so disrespectful
I went looking for this comment, and my sentiment exactly haha. So distasteful
Getting inside something that can't be opened from the inside. That's most definitely not happening. I hope after this someone puts a stop to this.
like an airliner?
Like opening the door at the bottom of the ocean would help
@@CaptainMonotone448What if you are not on the bottom of the ovean just flipped upside down you still can't get out.
@@airaction6423 Airplanes have emergency exits
@@go1tigers Then you still have a number of factors that might make opening the door a pointless endeavour, such as the ocean pressure, how long you can hold your breath before you reach the surface, and the freezing temperatures.
Don't get me wrong, being entombed in anything doesn't sound fun at all. But unfortunately it's a non factor for this particular scenario, as by the time the subs problems began it would have already passed the point where bailing through the door was no more viable than staying put.
You know what’s crazy… people go missing in this country…children go missing in this country… people witness children being abducted in this country… and often families struggle to get police to do bare minimum. But 5 missing rich guys with a .002 chance of being saved go on a death joy ride and millions are being spent. Every news agency around the world. Countries are coming together. I pray these men are found safe, don’t get me wrong…but it’s just crazy.
it;s a novelty, unlike regular common things. Nothing to do w being rich, if it were average or poor ppl would be same coverage and rescue efforts, that has been proven many times
I have to sadly agree.
You make it sound like being rich makes you inhuman or something. I’m sensing a whole lot of envy from you.
Finally an expert who knows his stuff, thanks
What surprises me the most about this situation is the lack of basic emergency planning. They don't have a rescue vehicle, the sub wasn't tethered to the ship in any way. It took days for them to gather manpower and resources to start a SEARCH mission because they don't even know where it is...?! I feel like this company ran this mission on faith alone. They just let the sub go and prayed everything would work out. That's absolute insanity. They didn't even install a sonar beacon for christ's sake.
I saw someone else say sonar dosn't work that deep anyway
Almost makes you wonder if the entire thing isn't complete and total bullshit to keep us distracted from something else........ Go back and read what you wrote....... They've just happened to forget about all of those things you mentioned? Do you really think that's possible? I'm not buying this level of stupidity That had to exist in order for this many mistakes to have been made. I don't know what the truth is but I'm not buying this level of incompetence.
You think the team didn’t do risk assessments, plan for contingencies? Really? High risk activities sometimes don’t work out.
@KeepItSimpleSailor they believed in their deluded way that it was safe. The contractor they hired who discovered the window was not built to withstand pressure at that depth was fired, then sued, when he kicked up a fuss about it and tried to go public. Then there's the 30-plus industry experts who signed that letter warning the owner/s of impending catastrophe... to ignore two safety warnings by industry professionals is the height of arrogance. The thing was largely made of carbon fibre for christ's sake. One point of weakness or damage coupled with extreme pressure (such as at 12,000 feet underwater) and carbon fibre will crumple like an empty tin can - I'm not an engineer and even I know that.
That whole thing was an accident just waiting to happen.
I feel so sad for the dad and son, and of course for them all, but to know your son is going to possibly die and you can't save him is a nightmare. They thought they were going to share the experience of a lifetime and instead they may lose their lives.
On fathers day aswell
well it was/is an experience of a lifetime
they lost contact way before getting to the titanic. which means they probably imploded and have been long since dead
They didn't know or feel anything, vessel likely imploded 2 hours after launch, which would have killed them all in a microsecond.
For the past 3 days they've been searching for a crushed soda can at the bottom of the Atlantic.
well, dying together is also an experience of lifetime.
It’s so unfortunate and you don’t wanna believe anyone losing their lives in such a horrific way, but he’s right you guys, it’s really not looking good and I think it’s almost time to accept the worst happened and learn from this tragic accident
I suppose you're right...
The next time I have an extra $250,000 lying around to spend on a little rich prick idiocy. I'll use it more wisely...
Maybe some safe stocks or start a business...
Once in history a submarine failed to communicate deep in the depths of water and they didn't find it for 30 years!
@@codymoe4986 250k is life changing money, and these cocksnots are using it to sign their obituaries
@@codymoe4986next time? U never had a first time buddy
Out of titanic came SOLAS (safety of life at sea). Strict Regulations to prevent shipping disasters. Unfortunately this doesnt cover subs. Hopefully there will be a change to stop willy wonka type inventors taking teenagers to their deaths.
It's terribly sad what happened to these people, but the fact that they all allowed a 19 year old to join them on this dangerous journey is beyond comprehension. Mature adults taking risks with their own lives knowingly is one thing; but to allow a youngster to make that same decision is close to unforgivable. That kid should have never been allowed to get on that vessel.
EDIT: I'm not saying that the 19 year old wasn't responsible for his decisions, I'm saying that the older and more mature adults should have talked him out of it even if he wanted to do it. But instead, they, including his own father, very likely encouraged him to do it.
I agree.
A 19 year old can make their own decisions. Don't try to blame others for their foolishness.
I’m almost turning 18 nd im sure if I choose to get in that metal coffin it woulda 100% be my choice 😂 that 19 year old was an adult. Still fucked up he gotta go like this
But we let 18 year olds join the military and navy every day. Smart or dumb, we all make our own decisions
exactly
She really captures the feeling of disbelief a lot of us are experiencing, hearing how insanely reckless this company was with the lives of their passengers. It just sounds like a suicide mission, going to the ocean floor in that thing.
Going to titanic is that regular they got complacent,same kind of thing happened with the s shuttle
get woke go (literally and figuratively) broke
@susanwill6351 seeing as they make you sign your life away, this is bad publicity, nothing else for the company. It's heartbreaking a grown ass man sent his kid into the depths of the ocean with all that pressure held together with a makeshift submarine. SMDH.
I am too poor to be that stupid.
As soon as I heard that they’re operating this thing with a 2009 video game controller, I knew it wouldn’t be ending well. Hope this negligent company will be held accountable.
In the depths of the ocean, where mysteries lie,
There sailed a submarine called The Titan, oh my!
Stockton Rush, the daring soul, set out to sea,
With parts from Home Depot, his dreams wild and free.
Stockton, a man of vision, fueled by his might,
Crafted a vessel, a marvel in sight.
With hammers and wrenches, he toiled and he roamed,
And laughed at those who'd doubt what he'd shown.
Out on the Atlantic, waves crashing around,
The Titan set sail, with a mocking sound.
Debris from the Titanic, a haunting surprise,
In the depths it awaited, where no one survives.
Oh, Stockton Rush, your pride had no bounds,
With Home Depot treasures, you scoured around.
But the ocean's disdain, it had its own way,
In mere moments, The Titan was swept away.
In 0.3 seconds, the sub met its end,
A catastrophic demise, a message to send.
As sea pressure claimed them, the billionaires fell,
A price paid in arrogance, a cautionary tale to tell.
So let this be a lesson to those who dare,
To build submarines with glue and a prayer.
For the ocean, unyielding, holds secrets untold,
In its depths, where our pride can be easily sold.
Wow!!!
Well written! I could make a sad song out of this..
Luna - uhm.. Surely ain't somebody else claiming copyrighrs on this? Ahah
Beautiful
Thanks so much Mike Harris for saying “ It’s just not looking good” Honesty is always the best policy. We shouldn’t sugarcoat the situation. We not only learn from our own mistakes but from the mistakes of others as well. May God have mercy on their souls.
Being claustrophobic, I would never get into something like that. I do feel bad for all involved.
Finally someone talking in realistic terms, he's saying what the others know but won't say out loud. I'm all for staying hopeful when there's a reason to be hopeful, but at this point all the other so called experts just sound silly. The men in the Titan went into this with their eyes wide open and were willing to risk their lives for this ill advised adventure, it's their families that I feel the most sorry for.
Agreed. It was insane
Ok Atheist.
@@SN57ONE what does that have to do with the statement? This is a valid true statement. It has nothing to do with faith. Where IS YOUR God? Clearly missing in action lmao
@@safiyyahsilvera9931God is always MIA LOL
@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist9🤦♂️
Brutally honest but heartbreaking. Please Lord have mercy on them
We can all agree that at this point if they return safely, it’s nothing short of a miracle
Most definitely!
Awaiting an Apollo 13 ending with a dash of Miracle on the Hudson
A successful rescue
Followed by a Tom Hanks movie
Not happening ☝️🙄
If we are being realistic, there is 0% chance they are coming back alive. Let’s just say they didn’t die immediately due to a break and the ocean crushing them in seconds, they have no water, it’s freezing cold, they have limited oxygen and likely less than estimated because of the carbon dioxide. At this point, even if they found them, they still have to then get them up, that is a lengthy process in itself. Assuming everything went as perfect as it could and their 96 hour estimate is legit, they have 8 hours to get them on deck and to a hospital. I hate to say it, but I just don’t see that happening. They may never find them, if they got swept up by the current. It took 75 years to find the titanic, which is gigantic compared to a 21ft capsule. Grab a marble, toss it in a lake and see how long it takes you to find it…that’s about what you’re looking at
US Coast Guard reports 6 gill shark or squid attack at around 8000 foot deep
Over 100 years later..and The Titanic is STILL taking lives 😢
Yes, and how ironic!
Not the Titanic taking lives, stupidity taking lives.
It's just being overconfident the titanic was unsinkable in people minds back then cause it was so massive same with the sub the guy obviously got over confident of what was built. Anytime ive gotten overconfident it's bit me in the ass you gotta be humble.
Stupidity and greed...
People’s greed rather than the titanic
I think they are dead unfortunately. All communications PLUS their beacon that pings every 15 seconds telling the mother ship they are still active all went dead at the exact same time. If it was just an electrical issue the beacon that sends a ping has a back up battery in case power goes out. So it would still ping. The fact that ALL of it stopped at the same time tells me it imploded and was destroyed. The reason they cant find it on radar and sonar is because its in pieces spread among the Titanic wreckage. I think the military is just doing this for show and is waiting for the 96 hours to be up to then give them a reason to then go into recovery mode and no be longer under the pressure of time.
There is also a British company that wants to help since they have the tech to go that far deep. However, they have been placed on "standby" for some reason
I think that coast guard dude dodged answering questions and kept with the blah blah about our thoughts and prayers....
It is like he didn't believe his own bs.
My inexpert opinion. Soda can at 9000 feet
@@ThatGuy68580bc the us doesn’t want to get stuck with the bill for European countries per usual
Didn't they turn down an offer from England to furnish a more than capable vehicle to help in the rescue.... Shame.
In regards to the missing submersible…
As part of my Masters program, I studied the causes of aerospace incidents and disasters. This whole episode just gives me the chills. As the finance industry reminds us, past performance is not an indicator of future results.
I'd say that the fact Stockton Rush himself was piloting the vessel would have been the biggest instiller of confidence in the party. If the captain was willing to risk his life on his own invention, then it'd provide incentive to trust him.
If you're going down 2000 m test it for 4000 m.
I don't suppose there's a way to pre-test bathyspheres going to the Marianas Trench.
Sadly I think finances had a big part in this. Sounds like he was probably maxed out financially and this was one of those gambles that was gonna help turn it all around. Must've been a good salesman because there is no way I would've gotten in that sub for even a couple hundred foot dive after some quick research seeing it's continued problems and complete lack of any safety certifications.
can you recommend a book title of aerospace incidents and disasters? Thanks
It kinda is? Finance is not aerospace. What a weird comparison. Not an educated one.
This guy looks like the Captain of the Titanic.
That's a bad omen for the crew of 5 there. ouch. Next person who gets interviewed will probably be named Jack.
Feel sad for the 19 year old who was with his dad. The other 4 are adults who knew the risks.
It's a shame the Atlantic Ocean had to make an example out of these people. It is not a tourist site. Leave it be.
I totally appreciate this man's honesty! Giving everyone false hope isn't right. He's stating the truth, but hoping for the best outcome.
🖨💯
They dead 100
The sub had MCAS installed
The media is has been dragging it on for days, oxygen this oxygen.. they don't wanna be upfront with sensitive material because they're more focused on giving false hope. I suspect the sub imploded and they all died instantly, that or someone farted and they all suffocated
@@VetementsEth they most likely froze to death as well
A recent interview with an ex-navy sub guy that has done deep water salvage for a living his whole life stated (to the opposite of the Coast Guard statement) this is a salvage mission, not a rescue mission. Even if we find them, there is no way to get the sub to the surface in time to save them from these depths. [We've past that point already]. We don't have the resources immediately available.....[and even if we did, it probably takes time to rig before actually raising....likely because it would be drones or other submersibles doing the rigging].
Yep
@@stevennickell2604 Watching a video now where David Pogue, who was on this same sub previously, is saying there are only 3 subs in the world that can reach these depths so......this kind of confirms the scarcity of resources - what the salvage guy said earlier. Supposedly there are also like 3 ways to emergency-ascend in this sub, leading one to believe it is either snagged, or possibly imploded. 14 bolts on the entry/exit hatch, all secured from the outside of the hull, so even if you wanted to go for a swim, no such luck. This is why I went Army and not Navy. Hats off to them, but screw all this. I'll die with my boots on the ground thank you very much. 🤣
It's almost as if they should have had those resources right there ready before attempting the dive.
@@nated5355 Yeah one of them is Alvin with the RV Atlantis ship
I was wondering how many hours it would take to raise to the surface being that far down.
This guy is exactly correct. You should only go out with a proven design. Why change a proven design. No recovery system in place during this dive.
because the proven design can only fit 3 people tops and they want to be able to take rich tourists down so the company can make more money. (thats not a negativity against the 'rich tourists' but more against the company wanting to exploit those people who are rich enough to throw money at an experience in spite of how unsafe it is. they pushed the envelope to be able to fit more people per trip thus more money per voyage . where usually it would just be scientists/oceanographers, explorers going down on these types of voyages, they made it accessible for billionaires to take their kids on a vacation to the bottom of the ocean. for a pricetag. now a young 19 year old and his father are going to lose their lives , (ALONG with the others, a couple oceanographers/deep sea explorer/titanic expert etc)
If no one tried new things nothing would ever change. He’s just pushing the limits but it didn’t work out well here
To save money...greed killed these people.
@@ariannasantina - proven design is better than a DEAD DESIGN.
@@russphillips3732 Yeah, sure... Just like he can't perform multiple tests going down on his own and even deeper than 4000m, to prove that design is not faulty...
Imagine the look on father face when he looks at his son, the guilt, fear, regret, unable to help him, just thinking about that makes me want to cry and say I am sorry for putting you in this boat
May God save you all
Realistically it is going to be difficult to just find and recover them regardless of the survival time frame. To try to find a small sub at that depth, especially if they have drifted, is going to take alot of resources. Unless they re right next to the titanic wreckage, it may be difficult to ever find them.
If? Of course it will have drifted
They will never be found.
With the limited equipment they have, if the submersible is next to the Titanic, it will appear to be part of the wreckage. They wouldn't be able to differentiate the two.
@@obfuscationstationthats crazy, the more you hear the more reckless it all sounds. Alot of stuff on the deck that could snag them too. That other guys story about how he got jammed under the propellar of the titanic in a submersable shows how easy it could be to get stuck in the wreck
Exactly. it took them 73 years to find the titanic....
No recovery system. That is the definition of irresponsible.
It's also the definition of stupid.
It's a private endeavor. No oversight whatsoever. This is what can happen.😢
@@Earthbound369 you don't have to have oversight to be responsible. And most who do have oversight weren't very responsible in the first place...or there wouldn't be any need for oversight. People if given the chance will skip/ cut corners and chose not to do the right thing when given an opportunity (I know, I don't sound very hopeful do I?). But when money is envolved it's almost a forgone conclusion, unfortunately.
@@aquaticlife9251 Sometimes it is better to be part of an established institution with a long history and track record and working for an average salary than being a rich person running a sketchy business. You can be money rich, but be poor in the more tangible things that matter.
He said it himself, even if they do find them there's no system in place to even get to them. So no chance of rescue unfortunately 😢
there was never a chance to rescue them. all communications suddenly cut off. that only means pressure implosion (fatal) or power loss (also fatal via hypothermia).
Technically they could save them but it would be almost impossible because they don’t know where they are. IF they knew they were sitting right in front of the bow…they could absolutely get the sub to surface level. They’ve done stuff like that before
@@johnnychimpo7539they never done anything off that nature lol, are you crazy it’s no way to retrieve them
@@johnnychimpo7539 Yep. Unmanned subs possibly. Very difficult.
@@johnnychimpo7539 Haven't seen one expert say they have any chance of saving them at that depth. All experts so far have said there are very few subs capable of achieving that kind of depth in the world (5 total I believe) and none of those can actually rescue them as there not designed for that. They cant tow the thing so how exactly do you suppose they could save them? Many experts have even said its actually worse than a accident in space.
This has to be one of the most tragic exploration events I've heard of since the space challenger mission. Brings tears to my eyes. My heart aches for them and especially the 19 year old teen on board. How will their families cope?
Exploration more business and greed, certainly will End this company and rightly so.!!!!
Just like the rest of the humans who go through this. Nothing special about this one, other than the fact that each one will be the recipient of a Darwin Award posthumously.
His dad might have gone ballistic at the CEO while on board. The culprit is with him. Makes for a great film
@@hmq9052That would be stupid, because then you lose the person who has knowledge on how the submarine works 😂
@@seaofroses8888 But imagine day 3. The dad has asked all the questions. The ceo has admitted there isn't a plan b and that they're going to die. I think at that point the dad's exasperation with this clown boils over. And he goes for him. That's how I'd make the film.
Imagine having a business charging people $250k to take an experimental vehicle 2 1/2
miles under water and you are well aware if something goes wrong there will be no help.
Maybe the CEO is suicidal:/
I'd rather "imagine" RUclips comments that don't start with the overused word trope, "imagine."
While I cannot afford a p and j sandwich working full time.
@@buckhorncortezI mean, he’s not wrong tho 😂
Jeff and his spaceship in the middle of a Covid lockdown......imagine that
Well done News Nation, this is the first interview I have seen of someone who actually knows what they are taking about, that is, knows about deep dive submersibles. Interviewer seemed to wonder why the Titan is in trouble now when it had survived trips to the Titanic before. The answer I suggest is stress fatigue of the hull weakens the hull - when the sub goes down the increasing pressure squeezes the hull which contracts and when it rises it expands again. The result is the hull gets weakened a bit more every time it dives, bit like aircraft structures every time they fly so aircraft bits have a finite life at which time they must be replaced. Add to this the different contraction expansion rates of the different materials used in this sub's hull where the hull structure is a fancy plastic tube with titanium and glass stuck to its ends. My guess is this sub got crushed when it failed where different materials mate/join. I expect in time we will find out for sure what happened and why.
If the Titan was engineered properly, I'm sure they would have done their fatigue analysis for far more cycles....at least hundreds if not thousands of cycles. But as you suggest, fatigue analysis of such a complex structure manufactured from different materials would be a formidable task. I have questions about the electronics and their resistance to condensing humidity. I doubt a Nintendo game controller has "conformally coated" circuitry. We've put a lot of electronics into tropical marine environments...conformal coating is a minimum if you want reliability. Electronics and the marine environment are not good playmates.
wait til they interview George Bush...
@@ozten-fj6pe Or JFK.....
Yes it is likely. Some years back 35 oceanographers and submariners cosigned a a letter detailing structural issues including stress fractured and cycle load concerns.
Oceangate says they fixed the the fractures. Now how you fix a fractured CFC shell... no idea. Once fibers start snapping it's done. I mean that is true of a CFC bycicle that cost 4 grand and is made with aero grade CFC... they're crazy, weighs 6 kg, wheels and all.
One bad fall and it snaps. No more 4 grand bike. So I stick to steel. Easily repaired. Cheap. Not that heavy for the strength you get.
Now of course a deep sea submersible is not a road bike... you expect higher standards not lower... bike fails I fall on my face, maybe hospital. Sub fails.... yeah.
Also look at their own promotional video of the assembly. From your description you saw it I think. Parallel fibers around a cylinder, titanium endcap glued in.
Bolts through one side, 17 removed and attached each use. No torque wrench. I kid you not. Again I can break my bike not using one. I have. Overtightened a bolt. Mechanic implied I'm an idiot. Lesson learnt.
Oh yeah 17 bolts is weird right? It's actually 18 but the top most bolt is hard to reach and I am quoting S.R. "We determined that mathematically it doesn't make a difference.
I think we both understand what unevenly applied pressure from bolts tightened without torque wrench (!!!!!!!) can do? American Airlines 191. Engine pylon damaged by shortcut in maintenance applying uneven pressure. Engine came off, slats fked on one side, left wing stalls impact into hangar. Maintenance staff didn't follow McDonnell manual to save time. 273 paid the price. They had just installed a cockpit camera. It showed the passengers what the pilots saw. It was removed after that.
Oh I forgot, bonding agent between CFC and Ti applied by habd. No vacuum to remove bubbles. But they used "a lot". Fast drying so they had one chance to get it right.
Finally!! Some truth on the matter!
It took 73 years to find Titanic, and it deserved to be found. It’s a site of mass death. It doesn’t deserve to be a morbid thrill kick for the ultra rich. Just awful.
Why would anyone want to visit a graveyard on a tourist expedition?
Oh wow so awful ! If they survive they can go back home to there ultra mansions! And not work again but live an ultra life !! Wow must be so hard! No food, no water ! No cozy bed to sleep in ! Wow them multi BILLIONAIRES finally get to feel what most people in the world experience everyday 😂 them scumbags better rot
I agree! I can't understand how people aren't outraged at all the money, resources, lives risked & damage to the environment that this joyride for greed profit - not for scientific research for humanity has caused. Are the Billionaire's family going to reimburse all the taxpayer money wasted? Leave that site alone!
I agree! I can't understand how people aren't outraged at all the money, resources, lives risked & damage to the environment that this joyride for greed profit - not for scientific research for humanity has caused. Are the Billionaire's family going to reimburse all the taxpayer money wasted? Leave that site alone!
Maybe some of the ghosts of the Titanic sabotaged the sub .
My grandfather is in his late 80s. He piloted submersibles for that would rescue downed submarines. Seeing this on the news saddens him. Former Navy veteran.
@@Tamara_W look up submarine recuse ships. He served on those in the late 50s. Very stressful and dangerous. He was injured several times and decided to leave to prevent further damage.
Were those submersibles remote controlled? Or were they manned?
@@cryora they were piloted by a person. All submarine rescue ships had trained divers on board. He was selected for diving training and was given further instruction on submersible piloting. These pilots would be able to rescue survivors of submarine mishaps. It was designed to attach to the submarine and carry out survivors back to the ship. All of our submarine rescue ships were scrapped for target practice or given to other nations.
My heart goes out to the families and people involved. For an 8-hour dive, this thing didn't need to be a free-swimming sub. Good old 1930's technology Bathysphere would have done the job. It would be tethered with a steel cable for retrieval and an umbilical for voice and data communication. easy up, easy down. It could even have propellers for local movement around the wreck, and the spherical shape would be ideal for the 6,000 psi at that depth. If the worst happens, at least with the tethers, you will know where to start looking! The problem with carbon fiber is that it functions and performs perfectly until it shatters. There's no crack to repair later; no leaks to attend to when you resurface -- it's OVER.
Remember the CEO was skipping costs everywhere, everything you said is correct but it would have cost a lot more money to operate the business. It was never about the safety it seems.
@@Ixxlostinaboxdamn
@@Ixxlostinaboxcosted money smh he probably didn’t want to waste his billions
No one died, financial evasion.
@@Forevergaming-ws8fuwell that's a lovely thought but unless you have a crystal ball you don't know what actually happened
Finally, someone with expert knowledge admitting there is no possible rescue regardless of timescales
If there is, it'll be a miracle
@@peachpie3597Yeah sure... there is a chance. Maybe 1/1000 they find em, 1/1000 they can attach a hook 1/1000 000 anyone is alive inside... there always a chance..
says the guy in the youtube comments with ZERO idea of the subs situation
@@h.r.hufnstuf4171 Common sense
@@h.r.hufnstuf4171says the guy who has done zero research lolz
I can't even begin to express how sorry I feel for the poor souls on that sub. Billionaires or not that Is a terrifying way to go
Bet the father and son had sex B4 they ran out of oxygen
Thank you for acknowledging their humanity. At the end of the day, they're people too.
Being rich has nothing to do with it. People need to stop focusing on that.
They're human, and they did or are suffering hard. That's the main point of this search effort. Period.
Pray for them poor souls 🙏
Billionaires or not?
Imagine being the sole survivor of this nightmare.
It’s unbelievable to me that something this size, would go down to a wreckage where there’s all kinds of sharp stuff sticking out everywhere, and you have electrical cables and stuff around the outside of the submersible, just waiting to get snagged on something!
Best video I’ve watch so far that actually gets straight to the point and honest
It is well known that the viewpoint was only rated for 1300 meters and they were going to depths of 4000, and the shell had many stress fractures. Bottom line is this vessel was Beyond it’s shelf life.
Where did you find that it had stress fractures?
Videos and images of the interior show that the equipment was bolted directly to the hull...
@@tbrownyabish Yeah but the Gold on the Titanic was almost in their grasp. If they only had different launch numbers.
If they left the day after that would have changed the launch number buddy.
Continental Shelf.... life.
Gold. Gold in the Titanic. You mean to tell me they were going to steal from the dead? Game Over. TILT. The Devils gotcha now.
best interview I've heard on this situation in 3 days.
Unfortunately, I fear the vessel imploded partway down; the water pressure would have killed everyone immediately. Nothing will ever be found.
Probably the best outcome for a sub failure down there. If they couldn't be recovered, at least it was quick
Yeah, I don't think the owner had provisions for a 4 day stay under water. He never planned for murphey's law, that whatever can go wrong will go wrong. Gilligan's Island crew was only suppose to be going on a 3 hr tour. At least they took provisions, just in case. Howell brought millions of dollars, ginger brought a whole wardrobe, the professor brought a library of science books, and they had a 20 year supply of radio batteries.
Bottle of water and a sandwich was the toll paid per soul to enter his chamber of horrors.
Specifically said not to eat, not to drink too much water and not to bring more than a sandwich. I wish I was joking.
@@221b-l3t thanks for sharing. That owner was crazy
There are literally children starving right now, and the world is worried about billionaires who spent a million on doing something ridiculous.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Welcome to planet earth....🤦🏻♀️
I bet these 5 people never even thought they'd die with Titanic next to them...its crazy. So saddening 😢
It blows me away that you can take paying passengers in a submersible that is not regulated or certified by any standard or government agency.
They were cutting corners.
Me too.
Not only that but, regular people going to this expeditions need proper training ( Physical and psychological ) not a fat money check
It blows me away that people can afford to spend $250,000 on something without a second thought. Any logical person would want to make sure their money goes to good use but these idiots didn't ask a single question
it blows me away that the seasoned Frenchman on board (apparently had already been to Titanic 20+ times) didn't think to question the design of this submersible (and the false bravado of Stockton Rush). yeah, like what the hell is THAT GUY'S excuse...?
My question is how have these people been able to operate for so long.
This is an absolute tragedy. And it didn’t need to happen.
It happened before the CEO got stuck and the tourist were pooing them self but the CEO managed to tangle free this did not faze the CEO. It proves he was a selfish man just thinking of his revenue
This is the CEO 36 trip down to the Titanic he has had plenty of warnings from before but this still didn't faze the idiot he got some balls but he was playing with fire and now his luck has run out completely
Money
They were aware of the risk. They all signed the agreement and waivers. Bored billionaires wanting bragging rights and the Titanic experience. They got it all right. Congratulations 👏
Possible deep sea creature interference causing this. Lost comms 1.5 hours into dive. Not at bottom yet but deep, perfect large predator depth
Unfortunately, it always takes disasters before things get better. It's a big learning lesson.
Agreed 👍
Better? Idiots will continue to do foolish things.
Not this case. They knew. The Russians got it right
The lesson to learn is the world view that
‘regulation gets in the way of innovation’
is extremely stupid
Yeah they said no to the safety standards. Took shortcuts. Ignored advice. Outcome was inevitable
I feel
Sick.. my heart has been heavy all weekend for the souls. Moment by moment I think… “ what are they doing doing? The anger, the fear, the tears, the frustration, the silence……”
When I heard today they heard banging on sonar I had to stop
What I was doing at work. I’m a nurse and I see the worse of the worst but this is another level of emotion.
I wish excursions that accept money like this on experiments was banned and never allowed. These were Guinea pigs .::
Period
I bet they probably already know where they are located but haven’t said anything because they honestly can’t do anything about it, it would be impossible to rescue them. People would probably blame them for not rescuing them when they don’t know it’s practically impossible.
😢yeah They say that the military submarines can’t even go that far down
I would be having a full blown panic attack if I was them. Just losing my mind. Crying. Sobbing. Weeping. Unable to breathe
I don't think they lived long enough to worry about anything. Losing all communication at once along with battery back-ups means they probably imploded as soon as the last message was sent, and that was three days ago. It makes sense that they can't find anything - there's nothing left but bits and pieces, scattered all over the ocean.
Honestly, if this scenario was going to happen anyway then imploding was the most humane way to die. And that's just an awful sentence to have to write...
Did you guys really put a countdown 😭🤦🏾♀️
This mission was sooo irresponsible 😢🤦🏾♀️ && very well avoidable. Just an unfortunate turn of events
The CEO of sub didn't care about maritime safety & operated with battery powered game stick controller. Thats why the last customer ask for money back after knowing this sub cannot be trusted.
I can’t sleep but praying for these men and their families and friends my Heart just goes out to them all 😞😞😞🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
The sub was about two thirds of the way into its dive to 4000m when it lost contact. At that time, it was about 2500m down. It's been reported that its main viewing porthole was only certified for 1300m. Do the math. That boat imploded before it ever reached the bottom. They won't find anything.
Except it dove to the Titanic in 2021 and 2022 and had no problem with the pressure.
I agree
@@buckhorncorteza commenter above says each dive weakens the structure of the sub, each trip the sub is in worse shape
@@buckhorncortez This is like the same logic that wasn't true, eventually, in many other cases also. Wear and tear is a thing.
@@buckhorncortezmight of weaken the thing is not even approved
From my perspective this whole tragedy could have been easily prevented if it weren't for the complete incompetence, ignorance, and obliviousness from the company or owner who built and blue printed the sub. Without any proper safety precautions put in place to ensure nothing would go wrong.
Not to mention that he steadfastly refused to get it certified, saying that scrutiny takes too much time, cost too much $$ and stifles innovation. He also flat out fired then sued one of his top engineers who raised safety concerns, urged him to get it certified and warned him it was a disaster waiting to happen, what a POS too bad about his victims, him I don't feel sorry for. You can never ensure nothing will ever go wrong with any craft or vehicle but this guy didn't even take a minimum or precautions, he just let it rip while his back account swelled
Blame the people dumb enough to actually go in it.
It’s mind boggling how people will still do something like this even though there were multiple red flags all over the place.
He used parts from campers world and a video game controller.
So we don’t blame the passengers for being irresponsible?
I mean sitting across from your 19 year old son watching him die , for what ? Just more rich people that have ran out of things to do .
Shame on them
These people are going to die regardless if they’re found or not and it’s absolutely heartbreaking to think of the fear and suffering these people are or have already experienced… this is so sad….
Honestly the best case scenario here is that the sub imploded. Instant death is highly preferable to a slow death from thirst, cold and running out of oxygen. These people are not going to be rescued if they are on the sea bottom stuck or without power - rescue simply isn't possible.
This guy says it real and honest.
Finally he said it😐this is really crazy it's like being buried alive in a sub under deep waters like it's dark and very cold down there🙁
Finally the truth if what I've been saying! Its literally impossible for a rescue or recovery at these depths!!
At least he's being honest and realistic. Everyone is holding out so much hope and its likely to end badly.
So, they are fooked through n through, that is if they are still alive. 😢
Highly likely to be honest. Even if miraculously the vessel is still intact and hasn't imploded and one or more are still alive they are probably suffering from one or more of the following - hypothermia, dehydration, physical and emotional stress and weakness and tiredness from lack of oxygen and sleep deprivation. Unfortunately, if they did find the sub now, there isn't enough time to mount a rescue operation and bring it to the surface before the oxygen deadline runs out. Also bear in mind that the oxygen may have almost dwindled away already by now if they are panicked and hyperventilating therefore using it up quicker. The outcome is looking pretty grim to me. I think this will turn into a salvage operation pretty soon, and is likely to take weeks or even longer. This has flight MH370 written all over it. This story may never be fully solved given the vast expanse of ocean to search and the extreme depths and difficulties in searching in pitch black at the seabed. But, we all have to have some glimmer of hope, no matter how miniscule it is.
Guy's not an ass, he just spoke the truth. They've no idea of their whereabouts, so hope is basically nonexistant
like it'd be one thing if they actually KNEW where they were at, but since they don't, it's another thing entirely and honestly it makes sense that people don't wanna show empathy for a situation like this.
I've seen comparisons to that story where a bunch of school kids got stuck super deep in a cave that flooded, but the problem with that is people KNEW where the kids were, it was EASY to locate them. Getting them out was the hard part.
but it's the inverse here. Sure, we might have tools that could be quickly assembled and used to pull the submersible back up... but what's the point of the tool if you can't find what it needs to be used on?
Thank you for bringing Elizabeth Vargas onboard. I love her
I think retrieving the sub (if it didn't implode at this point) could be possible if there was way more time. We still do not know where Titan is exactly located, they speculate that it's stuck in the Titanic but it's just a speculation. Even if they find the right machines to retrieve the submarine that deep in the ocean this could take hours. All odds are against them. The chances of survival are very low. If they still have power in their submarine and are stuck, there might be a possiblity that because of the current and moving the submarine they could get unstuck and rise to the surface, if the power even works at all. And even if this could happen and they are able to rise up the surface they still can't get out because it is bolted from the outside. Their chances of survival are very low. It will take a miracle by God for them to survive.
What I can't understand is why the main ship didn't have one of those unmanned submersibles with a camera that they could have sent down to see what was happening or to attempt to locate the submersible full of people.
Seems impossible that sub did not implode. Dissimilar hull materials glued together with a window not certified for depth of dive.
Chances are God hung up the phone on those five people 4 days ago
@@katbar6066they thought they didn't need one😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@crazyboy-jk5pp Shows the arrogance & stupidity. It has been hinted in some areas of news that the company had skated on thin ice in other areas before this. I don't believe the vessel was approved or tested to go to those depths and to not have anything to at least start searching in the hours it took to get vessels there to do the job for them is utter madness.
My step father was on the Glomar Explorer..trying to raise a sunken Russian sub .
It was a bigger operation than this 3 hour tour outfit has at it's disposal.
Project Azorian is the doc about the operation .
Hoping for the best for the poor folks and crew.
After listening to his expertise, the only thing I can say is rest in peace.
Bars
Don't give up hope. They have 12 hrs of oxygen left. We can still save them
Beyond terror..i pray and pray😢
According to much I’ve been hearing there were many unsettled issues with that thing…there’s no excuse for this.😮
There literally would've been easier to save them if they were trapped in low earth orbit. This is exactly why more people have been up in space then in the ocean floor, the conditions down there are harsher then outer space.
Well… James Cameron did a similar expedition back in 2012 on the deep sea challenger and his sub was well done and passed all the safety checks. The ocean gate sub did not, and was done haphazardly.
The challenger sub also took scientific samples of the trench and so much more. I really don’t think these people needed to go on this expedition seeing as their were so many safety checks undone. There was no scientific discovery they were aiming for, unlike scientist in space and scientist below. I hope their families can find peace❤
Someone who just watched James Cameron's 2012 Expedition I can agree that that vessel was far more Superior than that dinghy that the guy Hazardously put together.
The CEO himself said the submarine industry is 'too safe', basically saying that all those safety standard and certifications are all the results of paranoia, and such thing would hinder 'rapid innovations'. Well as a shipbuilding engineer, I can tell you that those testing and certification standards are there for a goddamn reason: diving to 3800m is not a joke. You have to built a dedicated sub for that task, not just some contraption assembled from camping store
@@samariapenaloza6106That vessel was one of a kind state of the art wonder built by talent and experience. It's F-35 vs a biplane I glued together. I promise it flies!
Yeah.. Tourism isgetting weirder these days.. Space isn't dangerous enough: we need deep sea!
Remember Challenger Deep is 4× the Depth of the Titanic at 30,000 feet also the deepest Shipwreck is USS Samuel D Roberts witch lies at a Depth of 34,000 feet
It likely imploded from a hull breach. That would explain the sudden loss of all communications, as the sub had multiple redundant communication systems in the event of loss of all power. And if it didn’t, there’s no way they can recover it before oxygen depletion. Not at 13k feet below sea level.
What would cause the breach? The way it was constructed?
@@Fitkid7672Stress Fracture of the Hull
@@Fitkid7672 it's a 5 inch thick carbon fibre weave around a titanium cylinder. If it was a Hull breach it was caused either by an unlucky collision with the wreckage of the titanic or it weakened over time from previous dives.
That would be their kindest, quickest route. Painless and practically instantaneous.
Hopefully a hull breach. Otherwise a cold, slow to their demise.
It's so SAD. It's quite evident that the crew and others involved were super excited about this mission therefore overlooked the many things that could go wrong. Harding was no doubt extremely confident that "she'll be right" and so was blind to negative factors that could arise. Another lesson in the demise of over confidence, just like those who built and made their proud boast that the Titanic was "unsinkable".
that is not excitement, it is capitalism ideology
@@DeniseCoelhoEnglishForLife Excitement about doing something hardly anyone has ever done. Excitement about going into the unchartered deep mysterious depths of the ocean.
Excitement about seeing a wreck... that would wreck me lol.
I heard that they had a long disclaimer to sign which laid out every horrible thing that could go wrong. They went knowingly.
"The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever."
-Jacques Yves Cousteau
Sounds like the creator onboard was more interested in $$ for development rather than passenger safety with that statement he made!
being trapped in a small space with no chance to escape would be my own personal hell. hope they went peacefully
It was most likely a hull implosion at 8,000 - 10,000 feet, where they lost communication. so they wouldn't have felt a thing.
They may have had time to hear the hull groan but after it slightly failed it was over in less than 12 milliseconds at that depth. they would've been literally vaporized as the pressure formed a cavitation bubble where the air used to be.
@@cptkirkpyro5656apart from the rescuers now believe they have heard banging on the past two days deep below so maybe they are just trapped. Either way unfortunately they will never be rescued and will remain in the deep along side the Titanic.
@@cptkirkpyro5656 I agree. People think they are stuck in this metal box waiting for the air to run out, maybe they'll be found, the reality is they died 90 minutes into the dive. 3 days ago. They can't find anything because there's nothing left to find.
@@malcador WHAT ABOUT THE BANGING
On the outside it looks cruel, but actually down there they probably made peace with themselves while doing something they love. They knew the risk and they signed a waiver for it.
The sad reality of this unfortunate situation is the sub most likely crushed on the way down.