Friend of man stranded on Titanic tour sub backed out of similar voyage | Dan Abrams Live
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The frantic search continues for five people missing on a Titanic expedition submersible that has hours left of breathable air. Explorer Chris Brown is a friend of passenger Hamish Harding. Brown backed out of a similar voyage due to safety concerns.
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The problem is not the risk, there is always risk involved in everything. The problem is the CEO is reckless.
True. I was just thinking. What a goofball.
he is also anti white
He sure is.
rhaast
Very true... And his choice of equity over merit... Racism and ageism didn't pay off
This is the best interview yet concerning how the Ocean Gate Titan wasn’t even certified.
Biggest lesson learned:
1. Never go on a mission if something isn’t inspected and certified for safety.
2. Always have backup.
3. Underwater is the MOST dangerous part.
to be fair MOST advancements in tech like this, aircradt etc start off as experimental/unregulated or whatever..
@@WAYGULOLBEEF sure but as a customer you should not risk your life in experimental technologies
@@WAYGULOLBEEFthey also start out going down without people on them
Why in the hell are you going down there anyway?? We don't belong there!!
Actually Chris Brown was talking about a different company at the beginning, then was asked to compare his experiences to ocean gate.
Can't believe anyone would go in that thing once they saw the controller. Whether it works or not, just seeing that the best equipment wasn't being used should've made them run, and run fast.
Once I saw you could not stand up in there but had to only sit Indian style, I'm done. But, I'd never get to that point anyway. Put 2 miles on your car trip meter and drive it to see how far that is.
It should of been operated by elon
Apparently a controller like that or similar is actually the norm
I’m good tell you tell me that there will be a guy shitting in a bag right next to me if needed with no ventilation… that’s when I’m out .
@@KingPaimon666correct they just brought cheap controllers to manipulate not use the actual control just save time and money designing and making one when they can buy them cheap and enhance one you can literally fly a drone with a similar controller they are like one seater helicopters
The fact a male engineer was fired after saying the sub was a death trap is terrible.
Did he take his money with him ?
@usmedquotesus4720 because women are too emotional
@@fdsf-o8z
You think that’s bad I once got fired by my boss for complaining about the money that I make .. can you believe that ? It wasn’t even his money I was the one making it !! Bullshit
@@A1Kira Amen. There's a reason Satan approached Eve ...
This is so similar to the titanic, it’s first chief designer was removed cus he wanted to put 50 lifeboats instead of 20 it got , wow 😮
Yeah that's the first thing I thought of too.
It wouldn't have mattered if Titanic had 60 lifeboats. Titanic had 20 lifeboats and only 18 were used. Having 50 or 60 lifeboats would have possibly hindered the rescue even more because they would have had to move the excess lifeboats out of the way to prepare the lifeboats.
And it was manufactured with cheap rivets.
@@Gblue162"Only 18 out of 20", "only" 90% of the lifeboats were used. Lol. Get real buddy.
@@ryanh4148 don't understand what you mean by get real but those are the facts. If Titanic had 50 lifeboats the same 18 ( maybe less due to the excess) would have only been used. It took roughly 30 minutes to prep a lifeboat, put people on and safely land them in the water and that's under ideal conditions. The officer crew did a great job imo on Titanic. It is a myth when people say there weren't enough lifeboats because sadly it wouldn't have mattered if there was more.
The owner of this company was completely negligent. I know he's going to be one of the victims but he is the entire reason why this incident has happened. And he will have taken 4 other lives with him.
Oh, what a foly mishap it was! The infamous saying "they died doing what they loved" couldn't be more fitting. It'll surely be a thrill to peruse their final messages, skillfully etched in bloody claw marks within the depths of "the wreck of the Titan." And guess what? The cherry on top is that it coincidentally shares the name with Morgan Anderson's book! Haha, what a delightful coincidence! 🤪🤪😝😝
I hope they cannibalised him before they died. 😅
And billions of taxpayers' money
He’s very selfish
@ezragonzalez8936 Wow, what a heartless comment! Our society, like that ill fated mini sub, is sure taking a nosedive!
This guy that backed out has very good common sense. Where was it with all others who have gone on this thing?
Anyone who mentions Hamish Harding in the context of having been a friend of his is very tight-lipped. That's strange in itself.
They are obviously lacking the common sense.
Despite what a lot of ppl think nowadays, having a lot of money does not make you smart.
they trusted the CEO who was also with them
I don't feel sorry for the ceo. I feel sorry for the victims. He probably sold them a pipe dream. Lied to them about how great it was gonna be. The passagers on board was probably not even told the issues with the sub. Because I know deep down if they knew the issues they wouldn't have gotten on.
Trust me everybody had common sense accept that ceo. The only reason they still got on was because they were not told the issues with the sub
Absolutely bonkers how they're allowed to charge people $250,000 per head to go on the expedition without having any certification to those depths. Hopefully it was a quick implosion and nothing horrible and drawn out. May they rest in peace.
Rich people can do whatever they want.
Why do you want to enforce Nanny State garbage on everyone? No one is forced to take such risks and it's none of your damn business.
the issue is that they're expecting governments to spend massive resources on a (pointless) rescue mission. if bored billionaires want to take stupid risks, that's fine. just don't expect the rest of us to bail you out.
It IsTRUE!
My theory is that Stockton Rush was in a financial pickle. With a lawsuit coming up, brought by former clients who were accusing him of fraud, he may have felt extremely pressured to get that money off at least 3 of the passengers (bet the French guy was on that trip as a "Titanic expert" and what do you bet he was also an investor in OceanGate?) as a way to stave off possible upcoming bankruptcy and "the end of the dream" for this Rush guy.
These people who go down to see the Titanic remind me a lot of those who climb Everest, being able to say you did so later at a cocktail party seems to trump their own wellbeing.
And there are a lot of them still frozen and unrecoverable on Everest.
I'm cautions what times I go to Walmart for groceries with the thugs in the parking lot.
Having millions does not mean you always have brains . They should have rented the movie Titanic and watched it in their mansions instead
They should have watch the movie in the sub
5 people voluntarily lock themselves in an uncertified sub, then decide to go to depths that not even military submarines dare to
And yet we trying to 'rescue' them. Waste of time, families should be paying for it
@@cumminsfj4586Im sick of seeing this sht stfu. You act like you are specifically the one paying for this. You probably didnt even individually pay 1% of this by yourself. So why are you complaining abt it?
Waste of taxpayers money and resources
@@Tigerous Totally! And then some idiot congressman from New York wants to send one of our nuclear submarines to help search for it. Absolute folly!
What the hell is wrong with people now days?
@@cumminsfj4586they are billionaires…if rescued they would pay anything…
The gaming controller they used wasn’t even a top notch one so that’s a red flag 🚩already
PlayStation 2 controller 🤖
Bought used controller from ebay for $5 and they charge 250k each smh
GUYS WITH THIS ATTITUDE ARE DANGEROUS; OVER CONFIDENCE, AND ARROGANCE IS BAD SIGN.
Thats what happens when you think its a good idea to sight see the burial ground of 1500 people...
I mean, the entire world is a burial ground, since 117 billion homo sapiens have lived and died at some place on this earth.
The thought of getting bolted inside of a sub and being lowered down 12000 feet almost makes me have a panic attack. I know some people have that as a passion but I just don’t understand. The craziest part to me is the fact that it takes 2,5 hours to make it down there and back, I’d be worried about imploding the entire time, it’s so far underwater no humans should go there.
James Cameron and others have been three times as deep as the Titanic in properly engineered and tested subs. There is a “safer” way to do it. Stockton Rush was just cocky and reckless.
New fear unlocked.
Being in a tiny submarine deep in the sea waiting to die 😭
This is why i never participate in things like sky diving, bungie jumping,deep sea diving, ect. Too much can go wrong.
chopper,cessnia
Ok so the CEO of Ocean Gate was exceptionally proud and confident of the safety of this vessel.
"pretty much invulnerable" as he put it.
So confident he was in "putting his money where his mouth is" he brushed off any concerns raised about any design concerns in favor of catering to his wealthy clients.
"At some point safety is just pure waste", he was reported to answer
"I mean if you want to be safe-don't get out of bed, don't get into your car, don't do anything. At some point you are going to take some risk. And it really is a risk/reward question.
I think I can do this just as safely by breaking the rules".
In his own words, this is what he said to CBS reporter David Poque last year.
You judge for yourself.
But even after he had successfully accomplished mulitple trips- which he did-
Had I heard him say that after I peered inside that thing,
and looked at that vast ocean,
I would have told him
NO THANKS.
I'll PASS
So this has become a case of arrogance that caused the sinking of the Titanic... by people who wanted to see the ruins that resulted from the arrogance, only to be the results of the same kind arrogance?
Is there such thing as irony that breaks the fourth wall and just breaks its way back in?
@@mattkoethe6691 Interviewer told him, "You're saying the same thing about your mini sub as the Titanic owner did.." CEO of this mini sub laughs n gives an arrogant, "Yeah"..lol
I don't feel sorry for the ceo. I feel sorry for the victims. He probably sold them a pipe dream. Lied to them about how great it was gonna be. The passagers on board was probably not even told the issues with the sub. Because I know deep down if they knew the issues they wouldn't have gotten on
@@P71ScrewHeadbro I honestly just wish he went by himself. I really wish those passagers was not on that dum thing.
@@rzwitdauncutit's a gravesite which should be left well alone, these people knew full well what they was doing, sad I know but they didn't need to go down there.
"You were too busy focusing on if you could, that you didn't stop to think if you should"
-Dr. Ian Malcolm
Really appreciate the unbaised and logical viewpoint of Chris.
Im happy he pulled out
I really appreciate the irony
Imagine believeing in this guy, oh the irony.
The OceanGate CEO who is trapped on a 22-foot submersible on an ill-fated voyage to see the Titanic wreck once explained how he didn’t hire “50-year-old white guys” with military experience to captain his vessels because they weren’t “inspirational.”
Stockton Rush, 61, added that such expertise was unnecessary because “anybody can drive the sub” with a $30 video game controller.
Smart guy. He doesn't suffer from cognitive dissonance
i bet he didn;t take the c10t sh00t either, good man.
😂😂😂
Brilliant observation
What does cognitive dissonance have to do with this? 😂
@@kyleharr10 look for the signs! Listen again
That Titanic wreck site is the magnetic epicenter of hubris and poor judgment!
Yep😂
is hubris another woke term like lo key sus simp epic lol? I have seen it used at least 6 times for this event. Never seen it used before this except over a decade ago in literature lol
Hubris was a term LONG before woke! Do some research!!!!!
@@aeptacon Hubris is one of the seven deadly sins. It's been a well-defined word for arrogant pride for a very long time.
@@aeptacon More intelligent people remember vocabulary words learned in high school. It's an ancient term, and has nothing to do with wokism.
13K feet down in the Atlantic ocean is the best spot to destroy the dude who ripped you off from your life and your money
Yeah They Probably All Turned On Stockton Rush Down There In The Depths & Killed Him.
True I wouldn't be surprised if there was a mutiny and he died first lol
@@ADreamingTraveler fo sho
Not insured
Not regulated
Parts from camping world
A x box controler
Yeah this was just a very expensive suicide mission
Prime example just because you have money doesn't make you smart. It was a PlayStation 2 controller.
@@andymcnab2.0it was a 2010 Logitech controller and it looks like a cheap PS controller imitation
There are wealthy Adventurers and there are qualified Scientific Explorers! Huge distinction between the two.
Yes. For some reason these guys referring to themselves as "scientific explorers" really gets my goat. Vanity is a precursor to one's sudden or eventual downfall.
Interesting guest. Very smart, listening to his alarm bells go off and actively assessing the risk. "they continually missed those milestones" "it just wasn't making the depth" and "they weren't planning on getting certification". Glad he is alive to tell us about it.
He’s alive because he wasn’t foolish enough to go through with getting on the submersible and going to the depths of the ocean. He changed his mind when he learned of the safety risks.
@@InsideandOut7799 Imagine believeing in this guy, oh the irony.
The OceanGate CEO who is trapped on a 22-foot submersible on an ill-fated voyage to see the Titanic wreck once explained how he didn’t hire “50-year-old white guys” with military experience to captain his vessels because they weren’t “inspirational.”
Stockton Rush, 61, added that such expertise was unnecessary because “anybody can drive the sub” with a $30 video game controller.
After listening to Chris Brown why did his friend Hamlish still go down with the unsafe sub.
@@sitinowak He was inspired by the diversity hiring of Rush and wanted to show support. Good for him, Good for him.
May they Rest In Peace. Hopefully others learn from this...and it wasn't in vain.
LEARN ????? No chance !!! Every year more people died climbing "frozen rocks" Mt. Everest and K1 and still more and more stupid baboons paying $50 000 to go there . This year 17 already died there.
The company got woke and they all died.
Others will learn. They will learn what fools these people were. How they thought that they were so much smarter than everyone else.
@@ronaldmayle1823What about this situation makes you think they "though they were smarter than everyone else"?
The Titanic is a Cursed ship. You crazy Europeans need to let it go. Your not god
Untethered and no plan B, you must be joking. Those poor people were tourists, not professional explorers.
A play station controller should be your 1st clue it’s not safe.
It was a Logitech controller. Don't insult Playstation like that.
I hate to say this but if my loved one was on that sub and they ended up dying on it. I would much rather have it to have imploded on them, rather than them to be on their all that time stuck somewhere and than running out of oxygen. That would be like being buried alive. That would give me nightmares for the rest of my life.
I was hoping death would come instantly, rather than the slow torture of banging on the walls. I hold out faint hope for rescue, very faint hope.
💯💯💯
$250,000 ticket and a $20 Amazon controller literally controls how it moves? And your telling me these are all rich ppl?😭
And a 3D Printer Made Sub.
Money doesn't buy common sense
That Stockton Rush guy was always trying to demonstrate how clever he was. He's like a teenage kid, tinkering out in the shed to build a "flying machine" that he intends to fly off the top of the cliff near his house.
They rich with money but poor in their thinking and value system. No experience is worth dying for.
@@giovanniperez4264as the saying goes more money then brains
These " I backed out " 15 minute famers are coming out of the woodwork now.
You do realize the news organizations are tracking down everyone they can, especially if they corroborate the narrative 'the vessel is a death trap'.
Whatever. I’m glad he was smart enough, and can now give us more context.
well their experience is relevant to what is going on
I’m an atheist but if there is any chance god exist I hope that god helps these poor people. This is so sad
an atheist which believes there is a god? 😂 make a choice
Yes! There is a God in heaven. He died for our sins. Believe in him
He won't.
What's The First Thing An Atheist Says When Something Goes Horribly Wrong? "Oh God"
I Had A Near Death Experience When I Was Almost Killed In A Car Accident In 2000, I Believe In God & Jesus In My Own Way, But I Don't Attend Church, I'm Certainly No Bible Thumper, I Was Led Down A Tunnel Of Light By A Blonde Woman In White, By Instinct I Knew She Was Some Ancestor But I Did Not Know Which One, I Then Walked Arm & Arm With Jesus & Talked With Him About Heaven And Was Shown It. It Makes Everything On Earth Look Like A Dishrag. You Are Not Allowed To See God, He Is A Powerful Far Off Blinding White Light, & You Are Told You Cannot Look At Him. When I Was Walking With Jesus I Had The Best Sense Of Well Being & Unconditional Love I Have Ever Experienced. I Begged To Stay But Was Told I Had To Come Back. I Have Never Been Baptized, But Was Going To Go To Heaven Anyway. After This Experience I Woke Up After Being Unconscious For A Week In ICU.
It’s heartbreaking for the families 😢 love to their families and the young man.
You think that billionaires have any interest of desire to inform us of anything? Please understand that we absolutely disgust them and try to live your own life with the meager oppertunities the billionaires and their corporations have left us with. Don't worry about them dying in wierd ways as they try to find some sort of purpose or thrilling experience to fill their soulless lives.
@@SofaKingShitI’m just a Normal human I feel bad when almost anyone dies.
I'm sure their families will find some way to move on, with all the money they'll inherit.
@@SofaKingShit Imagine believeing in this guy, oh the irony.
The OceanGate CEO who is trapped on a 22-foot submersible on an ill-fated voyage to see the Titanic wreck once explained how he didn’t hire “50-year-old white guys” with military experience to captain his vessels because they weren’t “inspirational.”
Stockton Rush, 61, added that such expertise was unnecessary because “anybody can drive the sub” with a $30 video game controller.
@@GFGoku 60 Million die each year, you must be sad all the time.
Miracle or alien intervention is the only thing that can save these men at this point.
Aliens are the ones that took them
No miracle of God .. if its His will 🙏
They went down in Iron Lung.
They're already history!
@@blueskiesforever114moron
Water & confined spaces are my worse fears.
This would be my worst nightmare 4sure.
So you don't know how to swim? Me neither!
Same here......I can barely go in an elevator!
Me too.
@@aeptaconwhat does knowing how to swim have to do with it? It's not like they could swim up from the bottom. 😊 I am an excellent swimmer and I wouldn't have been in that tin can if Rush had offered to pay me 250,000 to go.
Try Not To Think About It & Upset Yourself. There Is Nothing That Can Be Done For Those Poor People. You Weighed In And Wished The Best For Them. Don't Think About It & Get Upset.
The titan obviously wasn’t tested enough.
Getting in that thing and going down that deep in an untested sub is total crazy and is an act of suicide.
The fact that you’re bolted in and have no way of escaping in an emergency is madness.
This sort of activity should be illegal.
A guy from the company who was fired said that the window couldn’t be trusted to 1,000 feet
You have no way of escaping either way. You can't open at such depth and even if you do, it implodes and you die or it doesn't and you still die of underwater pressure level. If you float to the top you still need help to be decompressed to survive.
I don’t even think testing was the issue. The entire thing was so much of a mess, that it shouldn’t have gotten past the drawing board
@@be.A.b The guy just wanted to fulfill his dream and it was obvious to him that this is his last chance to try. So he decided to do that or die trying. He was old enough to not care about his life.
@@davids111311134,000 foot
One has to have little value on life to enter that death trap. Using game controllers and camping world lighting, no seats and having too take a number two infront of four others using a bag, what could go wrong on this 5 star vessel costing a quarter mil to ride it. RIP
Somebody's always got to bring up the bloody " movement".
@@stick9648 Are you pooh-poohing his comment ?
In a world of false promises, Oceangate offered, and delivered, the ultimate Titanic experience
The CEO, came over as a complete Narcissist - he didn't want anyone that might criticise him or show him up. Just young, fun, inexperienced Gen Z's. Bet he wished he had some 50 year old white men design it now...
This is what a "diverse" engineering team gets you.
I had the same thought when I saw some PR photographs of him and his "team."
Rich people with more money than brains, playing Russian roulette with 3 loaded cylinders.
R.I.P to the people on the sub it’s truly sad I can’t even imagine what there going through right now. And I say that because if they are that deep by this time they have about 8 hours of air left it’s freezing down there and there’s no way to get a rescue set up in time to get them but also it’s basically impossible to save them at that depth
They will definitely die, that’s so sad.
Yea way way too deep
I'm guessing the whole oxygen countdown is a media trick to keep the story going. It probably fell to pieces immediately. In 20 years James Cameron will go down & find the controller.
The US Navy heard the implosion on day one. They’ve kept the story going through the media to keep everyone busy and distracted.
He took a 19 year old kid down with him. He puts his money where his mouth is, in a death trap with 4 other people. What a brave guy!
That sayings perfect for that billionaire "we come into this world with nothing and we leave with nothing"
Ego and ignorance are a horrible combination.
The father of the 19 year old is also there
I dont think they forced the kid on at gunpoint, hes not a child.
they ate that kid once the hunger set in
What a thing to say. Invulnerable! In the SEA! How foolish.
Supposedly, Stockton Rush's wife is related to the richest couple to perish on the Titanic. You know they said the Titanic was unsinkable, and this guy said the Titan is invulnerable. 100 years apart and you haven't learned a dang thing.
and going to see the Titanic, the unsinkable ship! the stupidity is hilarious! that they want governments to bail them out now is pretty gross though.
If money increases, stupidity will come out.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
With a name like Titan. Just asking for trouble.
I Worked On Cargo Vessels Doing Inventory In A Federal Trade Zone. Nothing Is Invulnerable To The Sea And There Is No Such Thing As A Big Enough Boat.
Sadly, sometimes when you live life on the edge, you fall off.
250k for a once in a lifetime trip, 'bon voyage' down to Davy Jones locker...
After listening to that CEOs interview. Yea these people on that sub are dead because of that man. Dude is literally a rich egomaniac they crazy asf for fillowing his lead
I am always optimistic, but I hate to admit here, they have still not located the sub yet, even after they locate it exact location is to be determined, it take hours to bring them up, its not like just immediately pull them out, the water has extreme pressure they have to very slowly bring it up, any quickness with crush the sub like a can, and that's only after when the sub exact location is detected and a proper recovery system is in place, the chances are slim to none, all we can do now is pray and hope for a miracle
I agree , i think they needed to find them a couple days ago to have a realistic chance at rescuing the sub . Considering the time to get all the equipment in place to even start a rescue.
I hate to say it but I honestly think they are already dead. They have no water and are most likely hypothermic from the freezing cold
if it's on the bottom of the ocean, it wouldn't matter if they had days to bring it up. The only hope is if it's on or close to the surface. and then I hope to god those idiotic bored billionaires and/or their families are made to pay every cent spent on rescuing them from their own stupidity. and that they all get a thorough tax audit and are made to actually pay their fair share and contribute something to society.
It's exact position is "millions of particles" in the ocean, forevermore. Imo
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Carbon fiber cylinder hull with reported thickness *and* adhesion issues, going to that depth? 💥 No thanks. Pass!
I wouldn’t put my life in the hands of someone called Stockton as a first name.
Yeah It Screams Rich Boy Without A Lot Of Walking Around Sense. My Friend Worked At NASA Here In Florida But The Dude Couldn't Change A Flat Tire On A Car.
This is the most news and attention brought to something that seemed totally avoidable. I am actually curious how much tax payer dollars are being used in the search and rescue aspect of this?
I really feel for the son he got caught up in some serious problem
I bet he's thinking of all the things he's yet to do as he takes his last breaths. I bet that toilet smells down there, too.
I’m most emotionally upset about the 19 year old. I know we send 19 year olds to fight wars. But now we’re learning the brain isn’t fully developed until age 25 or so. A 19 year old invited to take a Father’s Day trip with his Dad isn’t going to be a qualified judge of the situation, in my opinion. And what 19 year old would want to show himself afraid in front of arrogance like this CEO’s?
Just awful (in my opinion).
@@eckankar7756They most likely imploded, they weren't thinking anything.
One second they were here, the next they weren't.
@@dissuede6949 which says nothing, you don't know what you're talking about
What really worries me is the depth and pressure.
yeah they f'd
Thank you captain obvious
I don't understand spending money to go that deep in a capsul only to watch through a monitor. You could literally hang out on a yatch and watch it or have a sleep over viewing party in a fake one while the real one goes down Unmanned
I guarantee that the 19 year old had absolutely no idea, nor any conception of the risks.
Yeah he probably thought he was going on an amazing Disney ride. Shane on his dad for taking his own son to his doom.
Bull , he was gonna be the youngest to do so and go on Oprah and really be someone. Should've kicked the old man in the nuts and broke his nose , made him eat a shit sandwich and kick him in the nuts again .
none of them did...not even the owner...he believed his own sales pitch bullshit to the point he ended up killing himself
I love how all these men in the comments are now admitting 19 is too young to make some decisions but fight tooth and nail that 19 yr old girls are mature enough to date their old asses. Just thought Id throw that in there
@@Beaneabean 🤣🤣
Most of these guys died doing what they loved, embracing his passions. What really breaks my heart is the young kid who was with his father.
he died doing what he loved as well
All of this because he did not want to hire white guys.
His son was probably his pride and joy and was going to carry on his father's legacy.
🤣 😂 🤣 😂... They died being what they are... STUPID.
What about all the "kids" who have died in plane crashes.
You've got the Co. CEO and very experienced explorers, but you've also got on board a non-explorer businessman investor and his teenage son! Barring a hull breach, (which, as more info comes to light about failures to properly test hull integrity - even after multiple descents to that level by this same vehicle ! ie; seems quite likely) as a Mental Health Clinician; I'd say the biggest safety risk to the trip might be that teenage boy.
Unless there were stringent and extensive psychometric testing of him ( and his father ); the kind of testing applied to polar expeditionist's or astronauts regarding how they might respond under extreme conditions, they may well have had a critical and uncontrollable panic situation occurring in a very confined space, with potential damage to equipment and other passengers. You've got a Gamer Control Joy Stick!!! -that could easily be grabbed and smashed, for eg, with no other back up control for the vehicle!? And from the casual way this CEO was previously describing / minimising the risks it seems very unlikely any such psychological testing was conducted. Most people don't know how they might react in extreme situations. For eg; just because you've experienced no claustrophobic symptoms in an elevator doesn't mean you won't in this scenario. You're externally bolted into a tiny metal tube, with no way to open it again from the inside. This alone is extraordinarily psychologically challenging . Then descending to nearly 4 miles deep, where light cannot reach, and being aware of the enormous pressures on this tiny vessel... You know, acute care psychiatric professionals are trained in restraint techniques of how to contain someone who's lost control, in ways the minimise risk to the person and staff, and have chemical means to quickly sedate and restrain. Would any of those skills or resources have been available to these people? Even if they had room to act? To my mind; these risks are equally viable possibilities, equally critical as these speculations surrounding potential hull or equipment failures.
Why wouldn't they make it a tethered sub? They would have full communication, unlimited oxygen and free wifi to live stream it.
An uninsured experimental sub is allowed to carry paid passengers?
A sub built in his backyard by an unskilled diversity team with materials from Home Depot and the Walmart reduced electronics bin, what could possibly go wrong?
They paid for the Titanic experience and they got the Titanic experience.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
CEO thought he was the Elon Musk of the seas.
I hope they'll will never find the rich people who knew the risk and still decided to do this stupid thing. They totally deserve what's coming to them
Imagine slamming a door and all your body passing trough a straw at the speed that sound. That is what happened to them.
The capsule implode that fast and they all are air and liquid (72% of our body) disintegrated at that speed. They became ink in the blink of an eye.
That Would Have Been Merciful...............
I have no sympathy or empathy for these billionaires 🤷♀️ they paid for a trip that was experimental, wasn't certified or insured. These people have waaaay too much money.
They died instantly when the carbon fiber hull shattered catastrophically before reaching the 4000 meter depth!!! This sub was never certified at that depth!!!
For life safety of any contraption carrying humans, it must at least have a factor of safety of 3:1 if not more!!! That means the sub should have been tested to depths at pressures 3X greater than the pressure at 4000 meters!!! So if there is 6000PSI at 4000 meters, then the sub had to qualify at 18,000PSI pressure before being certified as worthy to carry humans!!!
Read that the portal window was only certified to 1300 meters. That Stockton Rush felt smarter than everyone else and admired true "risk takers." Dangerous flim-flam man.
explain how it made other trips then ?
@@cx6894Just because it can withstand one or even 4 trips doesn't mean it can withstand 10 or more. Over time the pressure from the multiple voyages will take a toll. I might be wrong though.
I hear a Sphere is the right one to use fir these deep dives, not a pringles can like oceangate
Funny how the carbon fiber is still intact and it was the front glass that gave way
what an absolute red flag from the ceo saying he doesn't think operating at those depths is dangerous. regardless of what vessel youre in its an uncontrolled environment where one thing going wrong means...
In this case, it is not a fool and his money are soon parted - a fool and his life, along with those stupid enough to buy into this disaster, are soon parted!!!
I know it's in poor taste but I can't help but think of all the potential beneficiaries of these passenger's wills who are secretly praying they are not saved. I would bet money more than 300 people who are close to them have google like "how long can someone be missing before their will is invoked?".
Sad, but true. Goos point.
The Reality Is The U.S. Cost Guard Usually Only Searches For People Two Or Three Days Then Calls It Off, The ONLY Reason The Search Has Continued This Long Is Because Their All Billionaires, But Even With That I Believe The Searchers Will Call It Off Tommorrow Or The Day After Based On The Fact The Oxygen Will Be Gone. It Will Then Become A Recovery Mission, They'll Put On A Show A Day Or Two Then Call It Quits.
Honestly... the Submersible looks like a University Semister Project by the Seniors lol
I feel so completely horrified and saddened for these people. I understand these grown men took that risk for their own love of adventure but that 19yr old son should not have been allowed to join. It was an experimental exploration. You should have to be at least 21. That poor boy. 😢
Kid had his whole life ahead of him.😔
And the Mom and sister, too, who according to a report are on site where the father and son went into the water and are not doing well.😔
@@m.h.6499 so gut wrenching 😢 💔
Even though people can make lots of money, there aren't a lot of people that think for themselves in situations like this. I once got on a boat in Vietnam and they just kept loading people on. I said 'one more person on here and I'm getting off' and they added about 10 more....I was the only one that got off.
Mr. Rush was incredibly cavalier. You're not viewing the reefs, you're going to the bottom of the ocean.
He does seem very cavalier here.
Is that synonymous to stupid?
@@shogrran It means showing careless disregard and disrespect for something or someone; synonyms include haughty, nonchalant, flippant, offhand, cocky, disdainful, arrogant.
But, yeah, I think that could apply, too.
This whole thing is so awful.
@@shogrran No, but your question was 🤣
I think it might be a case of one dive too many, this is why they replace bungy cord every so often for bungy jumping, stresses and strains.
God help them 🙏
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A very sensible man, saw the red flags 🚩and responded accordingly.
Keep your critical thinking and common sense.
Unfortunately the Darwin award may go to the others 😔
it is
Actually, Hamish Harding sounds full of himself, immature, and scuffs at serious safety issues!
no upside to going that far down in a mini sub, just to see part of the titanic in person?...not a life goal for me
I guess no one ever told the whistle blower that loose lips sink ships. On the other hand radical, un-tested design features and crappy safety standards sink ships, too - from the looks of things. This is America, baby - always fire the guy who's voicing safety concerns. There's gold in them thar' depths.
Instead of blaming someone, they should tell us updates and why it takes so much time to find them.
“If you look at submersible activity over the last three decades, there hasn’t even been a major injury, let alone a fatality” and that’s how you curse your trip.
Even if this thing were perfectly safe I would have never gone into it, even for free. To be trapped for 8 hrs in a small van, with a bathroom! That would stink and I would get claustrophobic.
The builder of the Titanic was also on it when it sank..what an irony 🫢😱
Looks like Bruce Ismay took another 5 lives?
@@mus139 indeed 😬
that sub is PERFECTLY SAFE until something very small goes wrong once
Why no tracking device???😢
Just because they have money to buy a ticket doesn't mean they shouldn't have done due diligence for their own safety.
It takes balls to name your vessel the Titan, call it invunerable and go down and say it in the face of Titanic
There will always be risks, but the issue is to minimize risk, especially on a dangerous venture. Not avoid admitting them, like the CEO.
Rather breathtaking arrogance, in my opinion.
This is exactly why he wouldn’t hire experienced ex military submariners - because they’d know his setup was garbage. 🤦🏻♂️ That’s why he had to hire inexperienced college kids instead. 💯👍🏼
My Great Great Uncle was on the Titanic. Washington Roebling Jr. He was in europe looking at horses to buy and took Titanic back to New York. He didn't nake it. My grandparents thought the Titanic was like a plane crash. They didn't want to talk about it. The Caneron movie ended the talk for me. I used to be able to tell anybody. Now i get the "yea right" eye roll.
Yea right
@@imonymous thanx. Time marches on
So here's something crazy that people just found out. The guy who made this sub his wife's great great grandparents actually died on the Titanic lol and now the Titanic has claimed another
Wow. This guy...just wow.
How was Hamish Harding an explorer? Going on dangerous, thrilling trips does not make one an explorer. What were the people on the Titan exploring exactly? Were they exploring whether the experimental submersible would actually hold up? It's not like they were going to explore some part of the Titanic that had never been explored before or anything. I read what Harding's other "explorations" were and while he was definitely into somewhat high risk, very expensive travel, I fail to see how this sort of travel makes one an explorer in the traditional sense of the term.
I would say to be one of ONLY a few people on earth to see something with your own eyes gives you the title of explorer. I have no problem with that.
He obviously liked to pretend he was an explorer
It's just rich people not knowing what to do with all their money because being a humanitarian and funding a cure for cancer is boring.
Oh, what a foly mishap it was! The infamous saying "they died doing what they loved" couldn't be more fitting. It'll surely be a thrill to peruse their final messages, skillfully etched in bloody claw marks within the depths of "the wreck of the Titan." And guess what? The cherry on top is that it coincidentally shares the name with Morgan Anderson's book! Haha, what a delightful coincidence! 🤪🤪😝😝
@@ezragonzalez8936word.
So if the sub did not implode and is sitting buried in the murk on the ocean floor, being that there is no air within the capsule I suppose the entire crew will in effect become a human time capsule only to be discovered perhaps in another century or so, bodies completely intact and preserved in their death chamber? Tragic!
It would be a business opportunity for another CEO "genius". "See the results of the folly of mans hubris; the wreck of both the Titanic and the Titan."
When you're dealing with water and that much pressure, especially this sub was not state-of-the-art and had a lot of things that could definitely fail, as they say it was a disaster waiting to happen, and it's happened they knew the risks it's their fault for going.
These people need to be shut down ocean gate that is! Sue them too
The chance of saving these guys is like the chance of me getting a girlfriend
Oh come on, don't say that. Have a little hope. They still have like ten hours. 😏
@@florptytoo more like 8 or 9
You have a sense of humor - that's a lot more important than looks. A wise person once said anyone can be attractive with these three things: physical exercise, good hygiene, and an open mind.
No insurance company would go anywhere near that company or the people on board. But the families I’m sure have lots of inheritance coming…..
Fortunately,,, isn’t succumbing to CO2 poisoning basically like painlessly falling asleep? If it wasn’t a catastrophic hardware failure, at least they weren’t in tons of pain….
Invulnerable, the word used by Captain Smith on Titanic last voyage. They never seem to learn. Arrogance at its height when you are aiming for the depth. RIP.
Just shows even some of the most successful people on earth make idiotic mistakes.
One thing I learned in life as a 53 year old man, you never gamble your life savings, relationship with your loved ones, and most importantly your life.
well said Sam
It's really weird how the news is counting down the oxygen like that's the time limit to 'rescue' them. First of all there's a whole bunch of other issues that could occur and kill them before oxygen runs out. And most importantly even if we DID find them there is no possible way for us to even save them. There is no saving them sadly