"Because we were both babyfaces at the time" I don't remember Diesel ever being a character who wouldn't make sense to be seen at strip clubs. The Undertaker's different. The Undertaker being seen anywhere besides a cemetery or mortuary is weird.
I'd have to guess this was 94-95. Because that was the only time Nash and Taker were both faces at the same time, meaning Nash was world champ and Undertaker was donning his his black and purple ring attire, which I would agree probably jarring to see at the time. I could understand why Vince wouldn't want either of them being at strip clubs, and with how kayfabe Taker is known to be, it's actually surprising he would do this.
@@KennyKakes1 This was their "off the clock" time, they weren't kayfabe in these brief moments. It makes sense why Vince would think like this though, he had Ted Di Biase live like a millionaire just because that was a good look for him in Vince's mind.
@@KennyKakes1 there's no way taker was wearing his purple and black at the strip club lol, he was probably just dressed like we imagine attitude era American badass taker being dressed
@@thebigbop5866 Back in the old days, wrestlers were supposed to be in character during any public appearance, that's why Taker only started doing interviews very recently by the way. During the territory days, back when most people thought wrestling was a real sport, seeing a heel being a nice person on the street or a babyface being nasty would be like seeing the man behind the curtain in the wizard of oz. Obviously I don't think any adult ever believed the Undertaker character to be real, but Taker always had a very old school mentality so he tried his best not to break character in public and to not do things that may ruin the fantasy for the kids at least. Some few wrestlers still do this today, as is the case with MJF for example.
@@TL2354 Because it’s just slightly hypocritical for someone to tell you to quit going to strip joints when they just got done either banging a paralegal or writing a check to keep a previously banged paralegal quiet.
@@zlinedavid There are 30 years between Vince bitching about strip clubs and Vince writing checks to paralegals. I'm not saying Vince wasn't cheating on Linda way back then, but he didn't have the money to pay off women like that
@@madhatter8508 just stop Mr America ... what's good for you people is good for us too so stop making excuses for Your Heroes while telling us peasants we need to be kept in our places
@@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520 lies taker listened and was loyal to Vince he literally said it all the time recently he did whatever Vince wanted or asked of em that’s why he stayed in character for over 20 years
@@litodat233Yet here he was in a strip club after being told not to. The very story you are commenting under contradicts you. He was loyal but that don't mean he wasn't afraid to tell vince how it is.
I ran into undertaker and Bret hart at the old French maid in Calgary when I was 18!Bret blended in a bit better with a hat on and ponytail but taker stuck out as clear as day
when i was 5 or 6 years old my dad and uncles took me to the mid-south wrestling matches at the municipal auditorium. i got to see The Junkyard Dog against the One Man Gang and after the event i got to see them in the back playing cards together. i didnt understand that until much later.
To be fair, Vince is the one who killed kayfabe the night after the Montreal screwjob when he declared on his own show that wrestling is unequivocally fake.
Yea I knew wrestling was scripted aka kayfabe or fake when I was 12 or 14 and I kept telling my friend who was 17 or 18 at the time that wrestling was scripted fake, I also told him savio Vega was Kwang the wrestler but he kept calling me dumb and he was indenial that wrestling was a work and scripted.
I knew it wasn't real at 8 years old & still loved every second of it & still do to this very day. Only hardcore naive marks ever had any kind of issue being able to tell the difference between real life & scripted TV lol.
It was the same as Santa Claus. It all depended on if the people around you choose to keep the magic going or to smarten you up but by 12 people should have been able to tell atleast the 80s and 90s onwards. In the late 70s or early 80s a jobber did a dateline type interview exposing it was fake and showing the moves to the journalist and people were shocked lmao.
@@wolf7el356 I mostly agree but with cases like The Undertaker….it does help in the moment while watching a match to not have that engagement with the real life person. Think of Steve Austin in 98 and 99….if we saw him constantly hugging people backstage on social media or wishing people happy birthday who he was feuding with, it’s just a little harder to suspend disbelief while watching him on the Tv screen being a cold hearted badass . Taker being Taker 24/7 made him an enigma.
The best feeling as a wrestling fan is when you realize it's a work, but it doesn't matter because you still love it. Only then can you fully understand kayfabe.
The term Kevin was looking for is “the suspension of disbelief”. If you don’t offer your fans the option to believe because your writing or acting isn’t good enough, as a company you’ll soon run out of consumers to purchase your product.
They're humans, the way I saw it, give the time to be themselves, keep my mouth shut, and if possible, pass them off as look alikes. I still remember working in the kids department at Sears and having Nikolai Volkoff and Baron von Raschke minding their business and picking up clothes for their grandkids. Nikolai knew I knew who he was and that I'd keep quiet. When I let Baron know I knew who he was, he got a little panicked ... Nikolai laughed and said 'don't worry, he's safe'. 27 years later, and it's still a huge compliment to me.
When I tell you I know EXACTLY what you mean, i MEAN i KNOW exactly what you mean... and share the same "connection/ appreciation" with Ozzie Smith. Seen him in a New Balance store in St Louis near the Boston Market I was catering for. Literally every single person in the store asked him for a selfie or an autograph- except me. I only said to him, in passing, "I admire your patience, that's gotta get overwhelming man", and he just smiled n nodded. 2 weeks later, I ran into him outside Busch Stadium after a Cardinals game with my then 4 year old son, Mason. Ozzie noticed my kid asking for autographs etc, just being a kid at a game basically, and took the time to come over, nudged me to get my attention in a "watch this" kinda nonchalant way, and made sure he walked right into my sons attention span which of course triggered the "OH MY GOD , THAT'S OZZIE SMITH! THE WIZARD!" Look of worship in my son's eyes as he asked for an autograph. But the only words he could mumble, totally overcome with excitement, was "Ozzie you're like...a rock star". Ozzie just smiled n said "you know who's REALLY a rock star? Your daddy. Because he knows that rock stars are really still just normal people", winks at me after finishing his autograph. As he walks past he says to me "These moments make those moments well worth it kid. You're doing great" and walked away. Chills bro.
This was back in the early mid 90s, not as many people would have recognized Taker without before the Monday night wars, internet, mainstream video games, cable tvs hey day etc etc. I think it made sense back in the good ol territory days when you had a small concentrated fan base but when Diesel and Taker were together in WWE nobody knew who they really were mainstream wise. If anything one person out of the 100 would recognize them, then tell the other 99 “oh those guys wrestle in the WWF”, then the mob mentality sets in and 99 people who had no idea who you were 39 seconds ago now want your autograph
@@Boody617 Even though business was down in the mid 90s, you realize they still had millions of people watching the shows every week, right? It wasn’t as big as it was in the 80s or what it would become in the attitude era, but trust me, in the mid 90s, people knew who the Undertaker was.
Taker was awesome at maintaining the overall “tone” of kayfabe even while in public, at airports, etc. Him sitting there wearing all black and being lowkey is actually very on brand lol
Nowadays afaik they just go straight to their hotels, which has pros and cons, it's likely this generation will live longer lives than the last one and buck the trend of wrestlers dying young, but at the same time they have much fewer stories to tell than these crazy bastards. It's that old question, do you wanna shine bright and burn out fast or do you wanna be a dim glow that burns for longer? To many people it's a simple question cause death is so tragic but i'd argue many of the wrestlers who died at 60 lived more in that time than many people who last till they're 100
Kevin Nash is that cool grandpa you can rely on and talk to for advice also a grandpa that is so chill that can tell stories for hours while smoking a cigar
See id think taker would get way more heat for being in strip clubs than Nash because Diesel was still just a guy but Taker is supposed to be supernatural. As a fan seeing Diesel in a strip club in 1995 wouldn't be jarring. Seeing undertaker would definitely be.
Imagine going to a strip club and just seeing the undertaker chilling there getting a lap dance ahahahahaha especially if he had his eyes rolled back 😂
You son of a bitch! I'm challenging you at Christmas Chaos for the intergalactic super cup championship belt. You have between now and sundown to answer!
Players in pro sports hang out with each others before and after games. Heck fighters and UFC like each other but still get in the ring and beat each other up. Outside of the WWE ring shouldn't matter if the guys are hanging out or not.
I figured out it was a work at 8 way before the internet and as a fan. Defended it from those who said fake. As fans. We know. We should keep it to ourselves and defend it. Support what you love. Don’t tear it down. Don’t announce it to everyone.
I remember being stuck in Sioux City Iowa, for work, and a couple of us decide to visit strip club. The British Bulldog, Owen Hart and Jim Powers sit down in a far off table in the club. Some dumbass is over there geeking out and Owen is being cool with the guy. I gave the guys a thumbs up, as I headed out the door.
I've worked in strip clubs most of my adult life. I remember a friend of mine started dancing at a different club and I went to see her one night and to my surprise Taker and Bam Bam Bigelow came in. I didn't even know a wrestling event was in town. I ended up talking to Bam Bam very briefly but I'm the type who generally leaves celebrities alone out in public like that. The ones I know and am friends with appreciate how I've always treated them as real people, instead of fanboying on them.
"That's not when we were in competition with Ted Turner, we were in competition with Disney" Wow. Never thought of that but now that whole Era makes more sense.
I think it's more of Vince not wanting fans seeing Diesel & "Taker hanging out in the "real world' more than going to a strip club. He didn't want faces & heels hanging out in real life.
To be fair Big Sexy and The Undertaker would 100% be at a strip club. So I don't know why Vince was so worried about it to me it seems more believable lol
As a kiddie, in the UK, it was difficult to know it wasn't all a work. Yes, we had comedy character. Yes, you'd wonder why or how some moves or behaviours would happen. And bit by bit you came to the conclusion that some were work. Why only some? Because we had rounds. And there were matches like a young Fit vs a young Davy Boy. Watch that match again. It looks exactly what you'd imagine pro wrestling to be as a pro combat sport that acknowledged the complexity of moves, before the next lock up or whatever. I don't care if it's a work. I was mildly saddened when I found out it all was. But I love watching the wrestling. I simply switch off my knowledge, and watch the show.
My grandad worked a lot of security in Blackpool in the 70's and 80's apparently people would literally try and fight Giant Haystacks people believed it was real.
Big show would come into our strip club in Dayton Ohio when they were in town. That man can tear up a buffet lol. Super nice guy. Very polite and personable. I will also add, he didn't come for dancers, he would come for the free food (our cook was damn good), and also, in the nightclub biz strip clubs have less problems with guys fighting than regular bars and I'm sure he didn't want to be bothered by guys trying to fight him because of who he was. Kevin having a background as a bouncer can probably attest to this as well
Peter McNeeley actually did better than most of Tyson's previous opponents. He went right after Tyson, pressured him, and his corner threw in the towel on him while he was standing on his feet ready to go again. The fight was arguably fixed (like many fights in boxing were in that era), and I suspect McNeeley's corner was told to end it if their guy didn't take a dive. If you watch Tyson's fights after prison, he wasn't the same guy. He was sloppy and one dimensional, and his fights were awful. Watch the Buster Mathis fight (his next fight after McNeeley).
Nash and Dutch Mantell are the only old school wrestlers I heard say,that most people knew wrestling was a work. Some like Jim Cornette act like no one had a clue until the 80s.
Think about where Cornette was at: rural Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Tennessee…no offense to anyone from there but back in the 80s….not exactly the most informed areas.
@@zlinedavid let's not forget, back then in the territories was a completely different show from the '90s and on. They put as much effort as possible into making everything look and feel real. Hell, for years people thought Jerry Lawler legitimately broke Andy Kaufman's neck until Lawler put it in his book that it was all of work. There have always been smart fans, they just didn't spoil it for everybody around them. Sadly, I wasn't around for the territory days I started watching wrestling when I was a child in the '90s. My dad did make it a point though for me to see some of the old matches from the territory days.
People have known wrestling has been big since the 30s but you want to believe it gives you something to enjoy that's all it is I'll snow it did a great presentation on it your job is to make it seem real to people no matter how fake it is the best stories are shoots make it seem real without being real
Hello Kevin . Pretty big fan of yours. One of my favorite matches were with you and bret hart as well undertaker at wrestlemania 12. Thanks for the memories.
Now you are so right I also knew when I was 10 or even younger that it was at work. My father explained it to me that there was a set outcome but what's going on in the ring is pretty damn and you guys are really kicking the crap out of each other.ppp I truly never understood why people called it fake because it's actually one of the most dangerous sports😢
4:54 - It was trendy for people to rag on McNeeley after the Tyson fight (he even willingly did it himself for a Pizza Hut commercial), but the truth is he took it to Tyson harder than anyone during that comeback until Mike fought Holyfield. McNeeley laid in his share in that fight until he got caught.
Kevin saying nothing happening with strippers or Torrie Wilson tells you plenty happened, but as he said before, don’t bring the wife on the pirate ship because you don’t need them knowing it’s a 24/7 party
I can see WWE management objecting if this was during the pre-internet days. I mean, forget heel and babyface. Even out of costume, neither 'Taker or Nash exactly blended with the scenery.
Peter Mcneely actually put up a fight against Tyson, he went back n fourth w Tyson blow for blow, even though the match was short and Mcneely lost he still gave it his all and he was going up against one of the best ever who was in his prime , so. Gotta give Mcneely credit
3:50 I knew it was a work at 6, however, what fictional entertainment has ever been made better by rubbing the audiences noses in fakeness? Having said that, looking fake in the ring is a bigger problem than the performers being real outside the ring.
@@Hillthugsta yep,people hold 20 year gripes over petty shit. If someone kicked me in the head and cost me millions and if the business killed my brother I would be bitter as well.
Nash laughs off kayfabe and yet when he talks about the nWo coming into WCW and the fans calling the cops he gets excited and says the fans thought it was real. yeah that worked out pretty well
Makes me wonder how different things would've been if Nash was there for the screw job and putting Austin over. In . Shawn's own words after the screw job he wanted to know where mark stood. Shawn was scared of taker. And apparently taker was wrapping his hands to make sure shawn put over Austin or else he'd beat him up. Nash was a big physical guy too. Besides Kane I think Nash was the only other guy who could've handled taker. Nash probably would've stuck with shawn and protected him
I get what you are saying, but Nash being there changes dynamics leading into the screw job that keep the screw job from happening. Also, taker still has that respect in the locker room so either Nash tells taker he wants no beef or someone goes in with taker's back so he ain't going in solo.
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Just the visual of Taker and Big Daddy Cool full on character chilling at a strip club is just comedy f’n gold!
you know it was Vince behind
this.
don't go to strip clubs or your fired.
come on Vince let the homies have
fun.
Hbk came in and took the spotlight from them got all the women
@@ricksanchez2425 HBGay went to Chippendales
@@madhatter8508 Always the self-hating 🏳️🌈 🌈 homosexual that comes out with the lame, hack corny AF attempt at a diss joke..
I don't there is anything comedic about a huge badass 7 foot trucker and a huge undead 7 foot monster raiding a strip joint.. 😆
"Because we were both babyfaces at the time"
I don't remember Diesel ever being a character who wouldn't make sense to be seen at strip clubs. The Undertaker's different. The Undertaker being seen anywhere besides a cemetery or mortuary is weird.
I'd have to guess this was 94-95. Because that was the only time Nash and Taker were both faces at the same time, meaning Nash was world champ and Undertaker was donning his his black and purple ring attire, which I would agree probably jarring to see at the time. I could understand why Vince wouldn't want either of them being at strip clubs, and with how kayfabe Taker is known to be, it's actually surprising he would do this.
@@KennyKakes1 This was their "off the clock" time, they weren't kayfabe in these brief moments.
It makes sense why Vince would think like this though, he had Ted Di Biase live like a millionaire just because that was a good look for him in Vince's mind.
@@KennyKakes1 there's no way taker was wearing his purple and black at the strip club lol, he was probably just dressed like we imagine attitude era American badass taker being dressed
Nobody under 18 would believe grownups talking about undertaker being seen at a strip club
@@thebigbop5866 Back in the old days, wrestlers were supposed to be in character during any public appearance, that's why Taker only started doing interviews very recently by the way.
During the territory days, back when most people thought wrestling was a real sport, seeing a heel being a nice person on the street or a babyface being nasty would be like seeing the man behind the curtain in the wizard of oz.
Obviously I don't think any adult ever believed the Undertaker character to be real, but Taker always had a very old school mentality so he tried his best not to break character in public and to not do things that may ruin the fantasy for the kids at least. Some few wrestlers still do this today, as is the case with MJF for example.
Imagine Undertaker getting a lap dance and his eyes rolling in the back of his head before he comes.
Lmaoooo😂😂
When his baby gravy hits the air and dies.
“Restttt in Peacceeeee.”
Then Paul Heyman would pop up out of the shadows saying anything in his voice. Giving strippers PTSD and shit.
When the bell tolls...knuckle children.
*We can tell that you never have........ You misspelled it...*
Good to see Nash back at this after his son's passing. Much love to the dude
Hes been non stop since 2 days after, think he just dove in to help with the grieving process.
Nash’s son passed recently? Damn I must’ve missed that I guess.
Oh hell. Is 2022 just hitting random pages in the book of death or fucking what?
@@IDSnowman yeah
Imagine the Undertaker staying in character at a strip club.
When VKM tells you to stop going to titty bars, that’s when EVERYONE is justified in bringing out a “That doesn’t work for me, brother”.
Why?
@@TL2354 Because it’s just slightly hypocritical for someone to tell you to quit going to strip joints when they just got done either banging a paralegal or writing a check to keep a previously banged paralegal quiet.
You hit the nail right in the head with that one. Wouldn't be surprised if Pat Patterson was his sometimes butt buddy
@@zlinedavid There are 30 years between Vince bitching about strip clubs and Vince writing checks to paralegals. I'm not saying Vince wasn't cheating on Linda way back then, but he didn't have the money to pay off women like that
@@madhatter8508 just stop Mr America ... what's good for you people is good for us too so stop making excuses for Your Heroes while telling us peasants we need to be kept in our places
I ran into the same problem with my mother. Thank you Nash, you are the real hero.
Didn’t see the full vid but this is about strip clubs and ur talking about ur mom
Your mother liked stripped clubs?
She had a point, though. At least go to the ones that she didn't work at.
@@jeremyc9593 nice
I think secretly deep down Vince knew he couldn't tell Taker not to do what he wanted to do.
100% Its that never tell the top salesman in the office what to do. that guy can do whatever he wants.
100 false he could absolutely tell taker what to do and taker would listen !
@@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520 lies taker listened and was loyal to Vince he literally said it all the time recently he did whatever Vince wanted or asked of em that’s why he stayed in character for over 20 years
@@litodat233 Sure bud 🙄 Taker would totally listen to Vince on what he could do with his personal time.👌👌🤣🤣
@@litodat233Yet here he was in a strip club after being told not to. The very story you are commenting under contradicts you. He was loyal but that don't mean he wasn't afraid to tell vince how it is.
I ran into undertaker and Bret hart at the old French maid in Calgary when I was 18!Bret blended in a bit better with a hat on and ponytail but taker stuck out as clear as day
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Actual Vincent Kennedy McMahon: " Don't go to strip clubs, *it creates a bad image* "
This aged better for some than others...
Why are you assuming it's true? 😂😂😂
I’ve long awaited to listen to Kevin and Sean on a podcast. Greatest wrestling podcast. Hands down.
“Principal McMahon” 😂
when i was 5 or 6 years old my dad and uncles took me to the mid-south wrestling matches at the municipal auditorium. i got to see The Junkyard Dog against the One Man Gang and after the event i got to see them in the back playing cards together. i didnt understand that until much later.
Kevin Nash is the shit!!! my heart goes out to his family
Taker: woman...relax...I just came to see what you got...
Sable: are you ready for the grind???
Sunny: I know you want me.
Vince being up their ass about it. Now there’s a whole show where heels & baby faces drive together & get filmed on the road. 😂😂
What is this show you speak of? I'm interested
@@jonbourgoin182 Ride Along. On the network (peacock if you're US based)
To be fare, Vince tried to hold on to kayfabe until it became impossible
To be fair, Vince is the one who killed kayfabe the night after the Montreal screwjob when he declared on his own show that wrestling is unequivocally fake.
I once saw Mick Foley, Jeff Jarret, and Luna drive off in a rental Toyota Corolla together after a Monday Night RAW taping. Totally broke kayfab 😂
Thats a pretty random group. I don't think qny of them were ever involved in a feud with each other during the time they'd all be there.
@@JackgarPrime totally random group. I think they all shared a common interest in getting the hell out of Davis, CA.
"I knew the shit was a work when I was 10."
Same here, and I was 10 at the height of Hullkamania. Most of my friends and family knew it too
Yea I knew wrestling was scripted aka kayfabe or fake when I was 12 or 14 and I kept telling my friend who was 17 or 18 at the time that wrestling was scripted fake, I also told him savio Vega was Kwang the wrestler but he kept calling me dumb and he was indenial that wrestling was a work and scripted.
I knew it wasn't real at 8 years old & still loved every second of it & still do to this very day.
Only hardcore naive marks ever had any kind of issue being able to tell the difference between real life & scripted TV lol.
It was the same as Santa Claus. It all depended on if the people around you choose to keep the magic going or to smarten you up but by 12 people should have been able to tell atleast the 80s and 90s onwards. In the late 70s or early 80s a jobber did a dateline type interview exposing it was fake and showing the moves to the journalist and people were shocked lmao.
@@wolf7el356 I mostly agree but with cases like The Undertaker….it does help in the moment while watching a match to not have that engagement with the real life person. Think of Steve Austin in 98 and 99….if we saw him constantly hugging people backstage on social media or wishing people happy birthday who he was feuding with, it’s just a little harder to suspend disbelief while watching him on the Tv screen being a cold hearted badass . Taker being Taker 24/7 made him an enigma.
The best feeling as a wrestling fan is when you realize it's a work, but it doesn't matter because you still love it. Only then can you fully understand kayfabe.
The term Kevin was looking for is “the suspension of disbelief”.
If you don’t offer your fans the option to believe because your writing or acting isn’t good enough, as a company you’ll soon run out of consumers to purchase your product.
They're humans, the way I saw it, give the time to be themselves, keep my mouth shut, and if possible, pass them off as look alikes. I still remember working in the kids department at Sears and having Nikolai Volkoff and Baron von Raschke minding their business and picking up clothes for their grandkids. Nikolai knew I knew who he was and that I'd keep quiet. When I let Baron know I knew who he was, he got a little panicked ... Nikolai laughed and said 'don't worry, he's safe'. 27 years later, and it's still a huge compliment to me.
When I tell you I know EXACTLY what you mean, i MEAN i KNOW exactly what you mean... and share the same "connection/ appreciation" with Ozzie Smith. Seen him in a New Balance store in St Louis near the Boston Market I was catering for. Literally every single person in the store asked him for a selfie or an autograph- except me. I only said to him, in passing, "I admire your patience, that's gotta get overwhelming man", and he just smiled n nodded. 2 weeks later, I ran into him outside Busch Stadium after a Cardinals game with my then 4 year old son, Mason. Ozzie noticed my kid asking for autographs etc, just being a kid at a game basically, and took the time to come over, nudged me to get my attention in a "watch this" kinda nonchalant way, and made sure he walked right into my sons attention span which of course triggered the "OH MY GOD , THAT'S OZZIE SMITH! THE WIZARD!" Look of worship in my son's eyes as he asked for an autograph. But the only words he could mumble, totally overcome with excitement, was "Ozzie you're like...a rock star". Ozzie just smiled n said "you know who's REALLY a rock star? Your daddy. Because he knows that rock stars are really still just normal people", winks at me after finishing his autograph. As he walks past he says to me "These moments make those moments well worth it kid. You're doing great" and walked away.
Chills bro.
Awesome story that's for sharing.
@@DaileyShorts big deal. Lame
Diesel going to strip clubs keeps kayfabe. Taker? That would be crazy to see for someone not smartened up to the business.
that he wants to see a live body instead of a dead one?
This was back in the early mid 90s, not as many people would have recognized Taker without before the Monday night wars, internet, mainstream video games, cable tvs hey day etc etc.
I think it made sense back in the good ol territory days when you had a small concentrated fan base but when Diesel and Taker were together in WWE nobody knew who they really were mainstream wise.
If anything one person out of the 100 would recognize them, then tell the other 99 “oh those guys wrestle in the WWF”, then the mob mentality sets in and 99 people who had no idea who you were 39 seconds ago now want your autograph
@@Boody617 Even though business was down in the mid 90s, you realize they still had millions of people watching the shows every week, right? It wasn’t as big as it was in the 80s or what it would become in the attitude era, but trust me, in the mid 90s, people knew who the Undertaker was.
U think adult fans thought the undertaker wasn’t just a man?
Taker was awesome at maintaining the overall “tone” of kayfabe even while in public, at airports, etc. Him sitting there wearing all black and being lowkey is actually very on brand lol
I bet wrestlers had a better time on the road back then No cell phone cameras, no internet, no social media..
of course
No sensitive crowds either stopping heels from being heels.
Nowadays afaik they just go straight to their hotels, which has pros and cons, it's likely this generation will live longer lives than the last one and buck the trend of wrestlers dying young, but at the same time they have much fewer stories to tell than these crazy bastards. It's that old question, do you wanna shine bright and burn out fast or do you wanna be a dim glow that burns for longer? To many people it's a simple question cause death is so tragic but i'd argue many of the wrestlers who died at 60 lived more in that time than many people who last till they're 100
@@liquidsnake6879 You may argue because they're going so fast with stupid spot fests and flips, they might burnout faster.
Back in 94-95 I always wanted Taker and Diesel to be a tag team. I also thought they would have been a bad ass team .
Agreed....
that is a scary thought
that moment undertaker has a flash back in the strip club and tombstone pile drives the stripper that’s on his lap.💀💀💀
Lol as a Winnipegger, I know exactly what hotel Nash is talking about and that's kinda hilarious.
The one on Ellice Avenue 😂
Sincity wasn’t it?
Go Bombers!
I think I was bombers before they turned it into sin city. They had free pizza and strippers lol
Ditto..
This podcast has no business being as good as it is!
Nash tellin the strip club story about him and taker never gets old always been one of my favs
Kevin Nash could be the world's tallest comedian
Kevin Nash is that cool grandpa you can rely on and talk to for advice also a grandpa that is so chill that can tell stories for hours while smoking a cigar
Este guey.. he ain't that old eh.. he's like 60 cavrone.
@@HBK970 grandpa age
@@HBK970 lol. That's a grandpa age.
Undertaker and Nash walk into a bar..............
"Principal McMahon"!!!! 😆
See id think taker would get way more heat for being in strip clubs than Nash because Diesel was still just a guy but Taker is supposed to be supernatural. As a fan seeing Diesel in a strip club in 1995 wouldn't be jarring. Seeing undertaker would definitely be.
Imagine seeing Howard Finkle and Mean Gene
@@RedfishCarolina well that just sounds like a hell of a time!
Imagine going to a strip club and just seeing the undertaker chilling there getting a lap dance ahahahahaha especially if he had his eyes rolled back 😂
Principal McMahon! Lol 😆
You son of a bitch! I'm challenging you at Christmas Chaos for the intergalactic super cup championship belt. You have between now and sundown to answer!
Players in pro sports hang out with each others before and after games. Heck fighters and UFC like each other but still get in the ring and beat each other up. Outside of the WWE ring shouldn't matter if the guys are hanging out or not.
I figured out it was a work at 8 way before the internet and as a fan. Defended it from those who said fake. As fans. We know. We should keep it to ourselves and defend it. Support what you love. Don’t tear it down. Don’t announce it to everyone.
I remember being stuck in Sioux City Iowa, for work, and a couple of us decide to visit strip club. The British Bulldog, Owen Hart and Jim Powers sit down in a far off table in the club. Some dumbass is over there geeking out and Owen is being cool with the guy. I gave the guys a thumbs up, as I headed out the door.
It's not like their target audience, 9 year old kids, are going to be hanging around in strip clubs.
True, the drag shows are brought to the 9 year olds in school now
He seems very upbeat for a guy who just lost his son. Keep on keeping on Kev!
This a clip from a few weeks back or did u just think he wasn't that bothered and was more concerned about scott halls passing
Kevin and Sean love listening to yall ,since day 1 love you guys and safe travels to you both .
Vince outed wrestling long before the curtain call.
I've worked in strip clubs most of my adult life. I remember a friend of mine started dancing at a different club and I went to see her one night and to my surprise Taker and Bam Bam Bigelow came in. I didn't even know a wrestling event was in town. I ended up talking to Bam Bam very briefly but I'm the type who generally leaves celebrities alone out in public like that. The ones I know and am friends with appreciate how I've always treated them as real people, instead of fanboying on them.
"That's not when we were in competition with Ted Turner, we were in competition with Disney"
Wow. Never thought of that but now that whole Era makes more sense.
1:07 Kevin Nash is such a pro. Watch him sidestep this bait.
I think it's more of Vince not wanting fans seeing Diesel & "Taker hanging out in the "real world' more than going to a strip club. He didn't want faces & heels hanging out in real life.
Depends on the year though because in 95 they were both faces
Can someone please create a travel directory of all hotel / strip club combos?
Lmao
That used to be online, just saying.
When I was a kid all the wrestlers met at a bar in my home town.... in the 70's , all at the same bar after the matches lol.
To be fair Big Sexy and The Undertaker would 100% be at a strip club. So I don't know why Vince was so worried about it to me it seems more believable lol
Where can I purchase that nWo cup Kev was drinking out of?
Just got to seeing this podcast its amazing. Even Sean, its good to see him back i used to watch his shoot interviews with other wrestlers.
As a kiddie, in the UK, it was difficult to know it wasn't all a work. Yes, we had comedy character. Yes, you'd wonder why or how some moves or behaviours would happen. And bit by bit you came to the conclusion that some were work. Why only some? Because we had rounds. And there were matches like a young Fit vs a young Davy Boy. Watch that match again. It looks exactly what you'd imagine pro wrestling to be as a pro combat sport that acknowledged the complexity of moves, before the next lock up or whatever.
I don't care if it's a work. I was mildly saddened when I found out it all was. But I love watching the wrestling. I simply switch off my knowledge, and watch the show.
My grandad worked a lot of security in Blackpool in the 70's and 80's apparently people would literally try and fight Giant Haystacks people believed it was real.
Very true
I thought it was real, until there was a program called "secrets of pro wrestling exposed" on sky one back in '99/'00
Nash is so correct on Kayfabe people know, don’t put on a mic while wrestling
Big show would come into our strip club in Dayton Ohio when they were in town. That man can tear up a buffet lol. Super nice guy. Very polite and personable.
I will also add, he didn't come for dancers, he would come for the free food (our cook was damn good), and also, in the nightclub biz strip clubs have less problems with guys fighting than regular bars and I'm sure he didn't want to be bothered by guys trying to fight him because of who he was. Kevin having a background as a bouncer can probably attest to this as well
Peter McNeeley actually did better than most of Tyson's previous opponents. He went right after Tyson, pressured him, and his corner threw in the towel on him while he was standing on his feet ready to go again. The fight was arguably fixed (like many fights in boxing were in that era), and I suspect McNeeley's corner was told to end it if their guy didn't take a dive. If you watch Tyson's fights after prison, he wasn't the same guy. He was sloppy and one dimensional, and his fights were awful. Watch the Buster Mathis fight (his next fight after McNeeley).
I met the Big Show at strip club in Philly when he was in WCW at that time and smoking cigarettes before entering the ring
Nash and Dutch Mantell are the only old school wrestlers I heard say,that most people knew wrestling was a work. Some like Jim Cornette act like no one had a clue until the 80s.
I'm of the belief that only morons thought it wasn't a work.
Think about where Cornette was at: rural Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Tennessee…no offense to anyone from there but back in the 80s….not exactly the most informed areas.
@@zlinedavid let's not forget, back then in the territories was a completely different show from the '90s and on. They put as much effort as possible into making everything look and feel real.
Hell, for years people thought Jerry Lawler legitimately broke Andy Kaufman's neck until Lawler put it in his book that it was all of work.
There have always been smart fans, they just didn't spoil it for everybody around them.
Sadly, I wasn't around for the territory days I started watching wrestling when I was a child in the '90s.
My dad did make it a point though for me to see some of the old matches from the territory days.
@@zaodedong9935 Yep, totally different business. Much more regional vs National.
People have known wrestling has been big since the 30s but you want to believe it gives you something to enjoy that's all it is I'll snow it did a great presentation on it your job is to make it seem real to people no matter how fake it is the best stories are shoots make it seem real without being real
Principle McMahon 😂
Hello Kevin . Pretty big fan of yours. One of my favorite matches were with you and bret hart as well undertaker at wrestlemania 12. Thanks for the memories.
Now you are so right I also knew when I was 10 or even younger that it was at work. My father explained it to me that there was a set outcome but what's going on in the ring is pretty damn and you guys are really kicking the crap out of each other.ppp I truly never understood why people called it fake because it's actually one of the most dangerous sports😢
Now I def knew that Nash never had a problem with going to strip clubs
2 6'10 guys in one club?
Yes Taker and Nash tall asf Taker 6'10 Nash 7'0
Taker is 6ft7 . Nash is 6ft9 . Those are the REAL heights.
@@__JASON__. Finally someone with sense.
@@__JASON__.Taker 6'7?😂😂maybe now but at his prime he was 6'9 and Nash claim he was 6'11 st his prime
@@Odjeisk no, taker was 6'7 back then. Today he would be around 6'6
4:54 - It was trendy for people to rag on McNeeley after the Tyson fight (he even willingly did it himself for a Pizza Hut commercial), but the truth is he took it to Tyson harder than anyone during that comeback until Mike fought Holyfield. McNeeley laid in his share in that fight until he got caught.
Sean, if you're using the router provided by your internet service provider, get your own.
Sean's always trying make a shirt hahaha
That is brilliant Big Kev.
Lovin the podcast !🤘
Got me. I have woken up in a dream Within a dream so I don't know if I told anyone else that I was supposed to? 😳
What I wanted for Xmas and also mom past away. 😳
Nash tore his quad handing a stripper a dollar bill.
Nash and Hall 4 LIFE!!!!
Miss you in the ring Kevin
I love the Painting behind Kevin. Really beautiful
Kevin saying nothing happening with strippers or Torrie Wilson tells you plenty happened, but as he said before, don’t bring the wife on the pirate ship because you don’t need them knowing it’s a 24/7 party
You act like you know him.
Get a life.
@@Rjensen2 i do what i want. glaze my shmeat the long way.
Mannnn…that’s all I’d be doing if I was on the road that much lol. Also, the Undertaker/Jenna Jameson story is WILD
Also an underrated fact- far less drama and fights around
I can see WWE management objecting if this was during the pre-internet days. I mean, forget heel and babyface. Even out of costume, neither 'Taker or Nash exactly blended with the scenery.
I would’ve paid big money to see Taker walk in a strip club and tel everyone to rest in peace:
Peter Mcneely actually put up a fight against Tyson, he went back n fourth w Tyson blow for blow, even though the match was short and Mcneely lost he still gave it his all and he was going up against one of the best ever who was in his prime , so. Gotta give Mcneely credit
Yeah…Goldberg’s streak was something else, man
And eventual big Kevin made that walk himself and danced on the stage a couple times
You can tell Nash is under der the influence of something of all his episodes
Tyson v McNeely was a tune up for Tyson so he could show he hadn’t lost a step coming out of prison.
Thinking of taker chilling at strip joint and seeing nash...like ok now I know he ain't ratting lmao
I love this podcast
Everyone knows it's a work, they like to be able to pretend or suspend their disbelief
No, it definitely ruins it for kids to see enemies riding together.
Thats awesome another great story
Two guys the size of nash&taker in a bar..and they don't think anyone would notice them??...lol
I saw Carlito, Umaga and someone else at a strip club when my friend was about to leave for the Marines. Didn't say anything
Title of video hurt my brain
3:50 I knew it was a work at 6, however, what fictional entertainment has ever been made better by rubbing the audiences noses in fakeness? Having said that, looking fake in the ring is a bigger problem than the performers being real outside the ring.
i would not stay at a hotel attached to a strip joint.
Nash was a regular in a Dayton Ohio strip club called Diamonds.
Wow! Even Bret n Owen were smart enough to know to keep it real for the fans!
Yeah and now Brett has become a bitter old man🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@WillsonT011 Yeah well some of that was earned.
@@Hillthugsta yep,people hold 20 year gripes over petty shit. If someone kicked me in the head and cost me millions and if the business killed my brother I would be bitter as well.
He never had a problem with Taker
Back then it was easier to hide is what Nash meant to say..😂
Or
C) which I told my gf - it’s easier to get a drink as they do table service! She perused to still dump me 😂
Nash laughs off kayfabe and yet when he talks about the nWo coming into WCW and the fans calling the cops he gets excited and says the fans thought it was real. yeah that worked out pretty well
Pro wrestling sucks when the fans can't pretend it's real
@@newerest1 i mean at least let me suspend my disbelief a little. don't be on twitter tweeting how we're all friends right after the show
As a fan, we know it is a work but it is fun to suspend reality and enter the world of professional wrestling.
Makes me wonder how different things would've been if Nash was there for the screw job and putting Austin over. In . Shawn's own words after the screw job he wanted to know where mark stood. Shawn was scared of taker. And apparently taker was wrapping his hands to make sure shawn put over Austin or else he'd beat him up. Nash was a big physical guy too. Besides Kane I think Nash was the only other guy who could've handled taker. Nash probably would've stuck with shawn and protected him
I get what you are saying, but Nash being there changes dynamics leading into the screw job that keep the screw job from happening. Also, taker still has that respect in the locker room so either Nash tells taker he wants no beef or someone goes in with taker's back so he ain't going in solo.
Hey Kevin thanks for all those years of entertainment. Do you consider most fans to be marks that approach you?