Hi Tait! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! Great to hear you’re back playing and that you’ve had a similar experience with these irons as I had when filming! Just an FYI I’m running a giveaway on my channel for a free round of golf at the moment to celebrate passing 2k subscribers so give that video a watch and feel free to enter! 👍🏼
Haha! We’ve got to make sure us lefties represent where we can Damen0530! That’s one thing you can guarantee on my channel, if I review equipment it will be available in lefty! Thanks for watching the video!
@@weekendtourpros I use these irons, the os model---- im 63 and don't have the speed I used to have.. it took a while to get used to the slight offset. ,i hit normally and try not to compensate my grip or swing to it. what is your experience in that issue? thx
@keendeesjarlais3636 Hi Keen! Where I test and hit a lot of clubs, I can honestly say I’ve got to a point now where I don’t consciously change anything about my swing as I go from a super game improvement club to even testing a blade. I’m sure that over the course of a few swings my body may make some subconscious minor adjustments but I couldn’t honestly tell you that I’ve ever noticed it! So my advice would be to swing your swing and let the club do the work! 👍🏼
I like seeing your videos of your game improvement irons. It would be nice to see a side-by-side numbers of the comparison of the stealth ping and rogue irons to see how they compare to each other. They all seem like very good irons and I will have to go try each one of them.
Hi Daren! Thank you so much for your kind comment and for watching the videos! I’ll definitely try and make a video like that soon! Not sure if it helps at all, but in my latest video reviewing the Mizuno JPX923 Hot Metal irons, if you skip to 10:23 in that video you’ll see a comparison of all the irons I’ve tested lately and that might offer some quick comparison for you! Thanks, Luke!
@@weekendtourpros thanks, I see that now. Perfect. I use Mizuno jpx ez's now so I will have to check out the Mizuno's also. I like the numbers on the Pings. I will bo going out to try all of the main lines and your videos give me a good start of what to expect.
Luke, excellent video--thank you for the presentation. I recently ordered a set of these in 6-G wedge. Just to let you know, those white stripes in the grooves are apparently a feature of all Callaway irons, as my ages-old X-18s have them, too. My guess: they're a visible way of letting you know you need to clean your grooves. Cheers.
My Paul! Thank you for watching, for commenting and your kind words - I’m still new to this so trying to learn with every video so really appreciate the feedback! That’s great to know about the white stripes in the Callaway grooves! I remember the X18s as a friend had them but I guess you don’t look close enough at the club to spot the white groove line! I really like your theory about why they are there… that would make sense! What it does tell me is that such a subtle thing could be helpful to golfers for a variety of reasons - as I found it really easy to align the club ‘square’ or perpendicular to my target line because of it! Thanks again, Luke!
Have had the ST Max for the past year. Really enjoy the clubs, but have had an issue with the adhesive for the decorative plastic in the cavity failing and sending the piece flying. Granted I’m swinging them in 15° F winter temperatures. Still disappointing with a iron in this price range
Hi Nic! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! That’s really frustrating to hear! Have you contacted the place you got the irons from? I once had an issue with the glue on the face insert on an Odyssey putter (owned by Callaway) causing it to come loose and Callaway were incredible in their customer service. Replaced it with a brand new putter through the shop I bought it from… My experience was in the UK, assuming based on the temps you’re based elsewhere but it’s definitely worth a try! Thanks Luke!
I tested these at Portsmouth recently. Also tested the Titleist T200 and Srixson ZX5 all in the 7 iron. The Calloway flew 180y compared to the other two around 160y. It has a bit of a buffer / trampoline effect compared with the T22 which I liked best. Incredibly forgiving and long irons though, possibly too little feel for me.
@@weekendtourpros Hi WTP, great to see you on local courses! Not got fitted yet, should be booked in shortly for a fitting. I'll let you know how it goes.
@@weekendtourpros Went down this morning, had a great experience. Decided to go for the Calloway Rogue ST Max irons 5 - PW plus a 4 Hybrid, this gave me best distance coverage down from my Srixson ZX driver to my Vokey wedges. Just a lovely set of irons to hit.
Hi Donnyd’ez! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! That’s incredible mate! You must hit it a long way to be hitting any 7 iron over 200 yards! Wow! I am very jealous haha! Did you end up buying them or not?
Hi Jim! Thanks for watching my video and for the question. I filmed both videos a while ago now so I can’t remember with certainty but I do recall preferring the Stealth. However I’ve been blown away by how forgiving and easy to hit the new Callaway Paradym X are. I’ve got a review of that on my channel too in case it’s of interest! I hope that helps! Thanks, Luke
Ive got Mavriks, long too. These look much better...dont want to update because of that. Well ofcourse they are a newer model and i guess might be slightly better allaround.!? I would like a review of Apex Dcb:s🙏
Hi Antti! Thanks for your comment and for watching my video! I haven’t tested the Mavriks so it’s hard for me to offer a comparison sadly but I’ve heard good things about them so I’m sure it’s not significant! I’ve just checked and the place I film my reviews at has the Apex DCBs available so I will film a review for you! Sadly it won’t be for another 3 weeks as I’m not able to get into the fitting bay until then but if you subscribe to the channel and have your notifications on you’ll get the update as soon as I post it for you! 👍🏼 All the best, Luke
@@weekendtourpros Niiicceee! Looking forward.... Really all you reviews have been very intresting...i guess we on the same page with clubs. Im 19,1 strongly tryin to go down👍
@@anttisavolainen547 I just had a thought - I’ve got a competition running on one of my other videos where you can win some golf balls of your choice for telling me what videos you’d like to see me film next. All you have to do is like the video and comment to tell me what to review next. You should check it out and comment about the Apex DCBs on there too as that will enter you in the comp! There’s not many entries where I’m a new channel so there’s good odds of winning! It closes on 29 August 2022! Thanks, Luke
Hi Ted! Thanks for watching the video and for the great question and sorry I’ve only just seen it! I think I’ve seen varying results from different irons… some of the really long GI irons i think you’d end up clubbing down due to the “longer” distances whilst others that have tried to maintain loft (relative to todays irons) have managed to increase launch, peak heights and maintain enough spin to hold greens, in my opinion. In the latter camp the G425 irons I hit last year and even the new Stealth HD performed strong in those categories! Hope that helps! Thanks for watching! Luke
Hi Wild Bose! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! Sadly I’ve never tested the Wilson D9 irons so I can’t comment I’m afraid! I’m not sure if the fitting bay I film in has them available. If they do I’ll try and compare next time I have access. Thanks, Luke
Hi Luke, Do you just test with the 7 iron, I’m fairly consistent with that club but be interested to see the variances with a 3 or 4 iron which are harder to hit?
Hi Tony! Thanks for watching and for the comment! Sadly most manufacturers only provide a 7i to the fitting centres as that seems to be the standard approach to fitting irons… so unfortunately that’s all I can get my hands on for now! I know that the more well known RUclipsrs get sent 2/3 of the irons to give that range from a harder to hit iron (such as a 4-5 iron like you say) through to the 9 iron or PW. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to get to this level of testing but for now I’m just grateful to Portsmouth Golf Centre for letting me use their fitting bay and the equipment the manufacturers give them to test with! All the best Tony and thanks again for watching!
@@tomb9658 Hi TomB! Thanks for the comment and for watching the video! Yeah I do tend to agree, however this is more to do with the spin as the launch, peak heights and land angles were really good! Another option is for lower handicap players to make a combo set where they use the 4-5 iron from this set for extra forgiveness etc and then the rest of the irons and wedge from another…
@@alastairmckelvie3884 Hi Alistair! Thanks for the comment and for watching the video? What’s made you think these irons are not for you? Are you a low spin player like me and worried about that? Or was it something else?
Of course they’re long! 41 degree PW? Thats a 9 iron. 36.5 degree 9 iron? Thats an 8! This really should be false advertising but all the companies seem to get away with it! Hellfire, their AW is 46degrees!
Hi Sad Oldgit! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! I don’t disagree and do talk about this in my other reviews of Super Game Improvement irons - namely that whether you’re using traditional lofts on blades or strong lofts on these types of irons, the most important thing is how you gap your bag. Traditional lofts often mean you need an additional long iron or hybrid/fairway and these irons often mean you need another wedge (I don’t remember gap wedges being a thing until these strong lofted irons came out, right?) However what I would say is that loft isn’t everything… from what I understand these chunky super game improvement clubs are deliberately made with low CG and to pull the weight low and back which ensures peak heights and descent angles stay closer to traditional lofts, despite being stronger lofts! For the less skilled golfer this can only be a good thing in my mind as it helps more people to hit ‘good’ shots and enjoy the game. Provided they understand the gapping issue it creates! Do you agree? Thanks again for watching and commenting! Luke
@@tedmartinpadres Hi Ted! Thanks for watching and the comment! It probably doesn’t help that I generally hit the ball quite low but I do get your point! I tend to think that peak height, descent angle and spin are more important factors as more often than not I want to carry hazards/obstacles and then stop on the green but I also get your point that low launch is a problem too. Thanks for watching and for your comment! All the best, Luke
@@weekendtourpros I too hit a low ball which is why I was at Roger Dunn today trying out the Callaway Rogue ST Max irons. On the machine they were indeed spinning less than my Apex 19's, which is why I was curious about your real world experience with GI irons and their green holding potential.
@@tedmartinpadres love it Ted! You’ll see I’ve hit a lot of GI irons on my channel from last years models. In my experience I’m often getting performance that slightly exceeds my current Titleist T200 in terms of peak height and land/descent angle and spins are often very similar. Personally it’s made me think I’m giving up something by playing an iron I like over the optimal performance for me. I used a hire set of T300s today on holiday and (without any launch monitor data to back it up) I was again impressed with how easy they were to hit and performance seemed very similar to my own clubs. Best of luck in your search! Would be keen to hear what you decide on! Thanks, Luke
love this just got a set fitted to me cause i’m coming back to golf after a few years off got my 7 iron going 190 with these really happy with them
Hi Tait! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! Great to hear you’re back playing and that you’ve had a similar experience with these irons as I had when filming!
Just an FYI I’m running a giveaway on my channel for a free round of golf at the moment to celebrate passing 2k subscribers so give that video a watch and feel free to enter! 👍🏼
Nice to see fellow lefty reviewing 👍
Haha! We’ve got to make sure us lefties represent where we can Damen0530! That’s one thing you can guarantee on my channel, if I review equipment it will be available in lefty! Thanks for watching the video!
@@weekendtourpros I use these irons, the os model---- im 63 and don't have the speed I used to have..
it took a while to get used to the slight offset. ,i hit normally and try not to compensate my grip or swing to it. what is your experience in that issue? thx
@keendeesjarlais3636 Hi Keen! Where I test and hit a lot of clubs, I can honestly say I’ve got to a point now where I don’t consciously change anything about my swing as I go from a super game improvement club to even testing a blade. I’m sure that over the course of a few swings my body may make some subconscious minor adjustments but I couldn’t honestly tell you that I’ve ever noticed it! So my advice would be to swing your swing and let the club do the work! 👍🏼
Was just fitted for the rogue st max os and all i can say is wow!
20y difference per club.
Hi Garry! That’s amazing! They were great clubs when I tested them! I hope you enjoy! Thanks for watching my video! All the best! 👍🏼
I like seeing your videos of your game improvement irons. It would be nice to see a side-by-side numbers of the comparison of the stealth ping and rogue irons to see how they compare to each other. They all seem like very good irons and I will have to go try each one of them.
Hi Daren! Thank you so much for your kind comment and for watching the videos! I’ll definitely try and make a video like that soon! Not sure if it helps at all, but in my latest video reviewing the Mizuno JPX923 Hot Metal irons, if you skip to 10:23 in that video you’ll see a comparison of all the irons I’ve tested lately and that might offer some quick comparison for you! Thanks, Luke!
@@weekendtourpros thanks, I see that now. Perfect. I use Mizuno jpx ez's now so I will have to check out the Mizuno's also. I like the numbers on the Pings. I will bo going out to try all of the main lines and your videos give me a good start of what to expect.
No problem at all! Good luck with the testing! I loved the Pings!
Luke, excellent video--thank you for the presentation. I recently ordered a set of these in 6-G wedge. Just to let you know, those white stripes in the grooves are apparently a feature of all Callaway irons, as my ages-old X-18s have them, too. My guess: they're a visible way of letting you know you need to clean your grooves. Cheers.
My Paul! Thank you for watching, for commenting and your kind words - I’m still new to this so trying to learn with every video so really appreciate the feedback!
That’s great to know about the white stripes in the Callaway grooves! I remember the X18s as a friend had them but I guess you don’t look close enough at the club to spot the white groove line! I really like your theory about why they are there… that would make sense! What it does tell me is that such a subtle thing could be helpful to golfers for a variety of reasons - as I found it really easy to align the club ‘square’ or perpendicular to my target line because of it! Thanks again, Luke!
Have had the ST Max for the past year. Really enjoy the clubs, but have had an issue with the adhesive for the decorative plastic in the cavity failing and sending the piece flying. Granted I’m swinging them in 15° F winter temperatures. Still disappointing with a iron in this price range
Hi Nic! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! That’s really frustrating to hear! Have you contacted the place you got the irons from? I once had an issue with the glue on the face insert on an Odyssey putter (owned by Callaway) causing it to come loose and Callaway were incredible in their customer service. Replaced it with a brand new putter through the shop I bought it from… My experience was in the UK, assuming based on the temps you’re based elsewhere but it’s definitely worth a try! Thanks Luke!
I tested these at Portsmouth recently. Also tested the Titleist T200 and Srixson ZX5 all in the 7 iron. The Calloway flew 180y compared to the other two around 160y. It has a bit of a buffer / trampoline effect compared with the T22 which I liked best. Incredibly forgiving and long irons though, possibly too little feel for me.
Hi MD! Lovely to hear from someone local to me! Sounds like you had a good fitting experience! So which ones did you go for? All the best! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros Hi WTP, great to see you on local courses! Not got fitted yet, should be booked in shortly for a fitting. I'll let you know how it goes.
Definitely let me know! The team at Portsmouth are great; so I’m sure you’ll have a brilliant experience! All the best with it! 👍🏼
@@weekendtourpros Went down this morning, had a great experience. Decided to go for the Calloway Rogue ST Max irons 5 - PW plus a 4 Hybrid, this gave me best distance coverage down from my Srixson ZX driver to my Vokey wedges. Just a lovely set of irons to hit.
Hi MD! That’s great! Who were fitted by? Sounds like a great decision all round! I hope you like the clubs when they arrive!
I was hitting the 7 iron 215 yesterday carry. These fly 40 yds further than my old ones.
Hi Donnyd’ez! Thanks for watching my video and for your comment! That’s incredible mate! You must hit it a long way to be hitting any 7 iron over 200 yards! Wow! I am very jealous haha! Did you end up buying them or not?
@@weekendtourpros it's basically my old 5 iron. 😆
Love it!!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Which was more forgiving- the rogue st max or the TM Stealth? Thanks!
Hi Jim! Thanks for watching my video and for the question. I filmed both videos a while ago now so I can’t remember with certainty but I do recall preferring the Stealth. However I’ve been blown away by how forgiving and easy to hit the new Callaway Paradym X are. I’ve got a review of that on my channel too in case it’s of interest! I hope that helps! Thanks, Luke
Ive got Mavriks, long too. These look much better...dont want to update because of that. Well ofcourse they are a newer model and i guess might be slightly better allaround.!? I would like a review of Apex Dcb:s🙏
Hi Antti! Thanks for your comment and for watching my video! I haven’t tested the Mavriks so it’s hard for me to offer a comparison sadly but I’ve heard good things about them so I’m sure it’s not significant! I’ve just checked and the place I film my reviews at has the Apex DCBs available so I will film a review for you! Sadly it won’t be for another 3 weeks as I’m not able to get into the fitting bay until then but if you subscribe to the channel and have your notifications on you’ll get the update as soon as I post it for you! 👍🏼 All the best, Luke
@@weekendtourpros Niiicceee! Looking forward.... Really all you reviews have been very intresting...i guess we on the same page with clubs. Im 19,1 strongly tryin to go down👍
No worries my friend! Thank you for the kind words! Keep practicing and playing! I went from a 22 to 12 handicap in about 2 years. You can do it 💪🏼
@@weekendtourpros thats great!👍
@@anttisavolainen547 I just had a thought - I’ve got a competition running on one of my other videos where you can win some golf balls of your choice for telling me what videos you’d like to see me film next. All you have to do is like the video and comment to tell me what to review next. You should check it out and comment about the Apex DCBs on there too as that will enter you in the comp! There’s not many entries where I’m a new channel so there’s good odds of winning! It closes on 29 August 2022! Thanks, Luke
Interesting video, thank you very much
Hi Nacho! Thanks for the comment and for watching the video! Cheers, Luke
How did the GI irons actually hold the greens?
Hi Ted! Thanks for watching the video and for the great question and sorry I’ve only just seen it! I think I’ve seen varying results from different irons… some of the really long GI irons i think you’d end up clubbing down due to the “longer” distances whilst others that have tried to maintain loft (relative to todays irons) have managed to increase launch, peak heights and maintain enough spin to hold greens, in my opinion. In the latter camp the G425 irons I hit last year and even the new Stealth HD performed strong in those categories! Hope that helps! Thanks for watching! Luke
How is this iron compared with Wilson D9 in term of distance?
Hi Wild Bose! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! Sadly I’ve never tested the Wilson D9 irons so I can’t comment I’m afraid! I’m not sure if the fitting bay I film in has them available. If they do I’ll try and compare next time I have access. Thanks, Luke
Hi Luke, Do you just test with the 7 iron, I’m fairly consistent with that club but be interested to see the variances with a 3 or 4 iron which are harder to hit?
Hi Tony! Thanks for watching and for the comment! Sadly most manufacturers only provide a 7i to the fitting centres as that seems to be the standard approach to fitting irons… so unfortunately that’s all I can get my hands on for now!
I know that the more well known RUclipsrs get sent 2/3 of the irons to give that range from a harder to hit iron (such as a 4-5 iron like you say) through to the 9 iron or PW.
Hopefully one day I’ll be able to get to this level of testing but for now I’m just grateful to Portsmouth Golf Centre for letting me use their fitting bay and the equipment the manufacturers give them to test with!
All the best Tony and thanks again for watching!
I doubt the 4 and 3 irons are usable with these. 6 iron down to A-wedge would be good.
@@tomb9658 Hi TomB! Thanks for the comment and for watching the video! Yeah I do tend to agree, however this is more to do with the spin as the launch, peak heights and land angles were really good! Another option is for lower handicap players to make a combo set where they use the 4-5 iron from this set for extra forgiveness etc and then the rest of the irons and wedge from another…
Were you impressed with how long these irons are? Are you a high spin player who would benefit from them? Let me know!!!
I don’t think these irons would be for me was thinking to buy them but after this video will know not to buy thanks
@@alastairmckelvie3884 Hi Alistair! Thanks for the comment and for watching the video? What’s made you think these irons are not for you? Are you a low spin player like me and worried about that? Or was it something else?
Of course they’re long! 41 degree PW? Thats a 9 iron. 36.5 degree 9 iron? Thats an 8! This really should be false advertising but all the companies seem to get away with it! Hellfire, their AW is 46degrees!
Hi Sad Oldgit! Thanks for watching the video and for your comment! I don’t disagree and do talk about this in my other reviews of Super Game Improvement irons - namely that whether you’re using traditional lofts on blades or strong lofts on these types of irons, the most important thing is how you gap your bag. Traditional lofts often mean you need an additional long iron or hybrid/fairway and these irons often mean you need another wedge (I don’t remember gap wedges being a thing until these strong lofted irons came out, right?)
However what I would say is that loft isn’t everything… from what I understand these chunky super game improvement clubs are deliberately made with low CG and to pull the weight low and back which ensures peak heights and descent angles stay closer to traditional lofts, despite being stronger lofts! For the less skilled golfer this can only be a good thing in my mind as it helps more people to hit ‘good’ shots and enjoy the game. Provided they understand the gapping issue it creates!
Do you agree? Thanks again for watching and commenting! Luke
...but the launch angle matches that of a nine iron!
@@tedmartinpadres Hi Ted! Thanks for watching and the comment! It probably doesn’t help that I generally hit the ball quite low but I do get your point! I tend to think that peak height, descent angle and spin are more important factors as more often than not I want to carry hazards/obstacles and then stop on the green but I also get your point that low launch is a problem too. Thanks for watching and for your comment! All the best, Luke
@@weekendtourpros I too hit a low ball which is why I was at Roger Dunn today trying out the Callaway Rogue ST Max irons. On the machine they were indeed spinning less than my Apex 19's, which is why I was curious about your real world experience with GI irons and their green holding potential.
@@tedmartinpadres love it Ted! You’ll see I’ve hit a lot of GI irons on my channel from last years models. In my experience I’m often getting performance that slightly exceeds my current Titleist T200 in terms of peak height and land/descent angle and spins are often very similar. Personally it’s made me think I’m giving up something by playing an iron I like over the optimal performance for me. I used a hire set of T300s today on holiday and (without any launch monitor data to back it up) I was again impressed with how easy they were to hit and performance seemed very similar to my own clubs. Best of luck in your search! Would be keen to hear what you decide on! Thanks, Luke