Overwatch: The Secret Zarya Buff
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2016
- Overwatch's Zarya got a marginal nerf to her bubble shields, however there is a bigger change that not everyone knows about. Her laser beam attack is now far more reliable than it was before, allowing for far more overall DPS, far more reliable hits as well as netting a faster ult charge rate, even in the face of the global 25% nerf. Zarya is BETTER than she was before, even with bubbles that max out to 40 charge rather than 50, in light of the better laser beam, the bubble change is rather insignificant. -F
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Holy shit, thank God man. I was so sick of genjis being one hit and the beam not connecting before he dashes.
Sometimes there even was a little spark on the enemy to indicate a hit but I didnt do any damage. Glad tha'ts gone.
Overwatch's Zarya got a marginal nerf to her bubble shields, however there is a bigger change that not everyone knows about. Her laser beam attack is now far more reliable than it was before, allowing for far more overall DPS, far more reliable hits as well as netting a faster ult charge rate, even in the face of the global 25% nerf. Zarya is BETTER than she was before, even with bubbles that max out to 40 charge rather than 50, in light of the better laser beam, the bubble change is rather insignificant. -F
sneaky blizzard. Looks like a quality of life change on the surface, but if what you say its true and it does improve the reliable damage output, it essentially just offsets the bubble-charge nerf she received. I havent tried yet so I wouldnt know if her ultimate actually charges faster, but even with more reliable dps, her ult should still charge slower/similar to before due to the 25% reduction...no??
Thanks a lot for the video , but can we have the source for the lazer beam's changes ?
Still disagree that supports gets ult charge too fast. Heck, almost all the supports are in some way mostly built around their ult. It's what makes people pick them. Mercy for one will be completely out of the meta with the new patch, especially for people solo queueing. Her entire kit is based around her ult, and without any form of self defense, whether it's from her guardian angel or her terrible gun, she is just not viable at any level, especially when the most important piece of her entire kit gets nerfed so hard. Now, what might bring mercy back into the meta could be buffing her firing rate while maybe balancing out her damage or potentially increasing her movement speed. As per now, she moves way too slow and deals too unreliable damage when it comes to defending herself. While Lucio has enough mobility to escape threats and zenyatta has enough damage to potentially kill threats, Mercy only has her guardian angel, which can be hard to get away with, seeing how predictable her movement is and how slowly she gets to her destination. What options does that leave us? Hoping you get lucky enough to land a shot or two with her gun and that the enemy has little health and dies OR trying to run away which she is too slow to do. Give Mercy a little loving. Show your support for supports.
Your Overwatch i think you also missed the increase to her bomb range
God I'm so sick of all these "Buff Mercy" noobs. Yeah she is weak, she's also retarded easy to play, you want to have fun? Play her in QP. You want to rank up? Git gud and learn a real hero. Before you jump to conclusions check my stats: watafu#1450. Mercy is my #1 hero in QP but I barely play her in comp.
>be me, zarya main
>see zarya is getting nerfed in next patch
>big nerfs, blizzard nerfs
>say ok, time to main dva bc she's getting buffed
>patch comes out
>both characters buffed
>tfw
CowLaser I don't get it why do ppl say tfw I can't see your face
the f can mean feel also
PokeBattlesInc what, you don't see his profile pic? :P
Bro she's still getting nerfed. It's more of a quality of life improvement than a buff to her laser. All it did was get rid of no registration.
oh man i didnt think i'd ever meet another zarya main
I've been watching your videos for a while. My rank has been going up, my friends and I know who counters who, and with just the 3 of us, we are able to carry incompetent teammates. You guys really do know your stuff.
Same here. In this case it's me and three other guys. We have improved our playstyle a lot by watching videos from them and by practice!
Omniverse how are you carrying incompetent teammates I play this game everyday I'm in diamond and play with a couple friends a lot and we lose more games than we should. The teammates we get
Well here I was in my inocence, basically only using the balls (except on big targets) because I thought my aim was just terrible with the beam.
Pedro Nascimento me too.
Sorry to tell you, but your innocence was gone even if you were "only using the balls".
Dallyink I'm sorry, I didn't understand your comment. My innocence is only gone now because now I know about that dmg delay.
Pedro Nascimento sorry bro, you were bad. Good players could still make very good use of it and know that the secondary attack was for only certain situations.
Wilson Stoddard Bad is the correct word! Not terrible! I've just tried a few games and the difference is quite noticeable.
As a Rein main I just want to point out.
Zarya has been a lot more of a must pick than Rein.
Yes recently Rein has been seen on koth, which makes him appear on every map.
But Zarya has been there for the whole time, and she was crucial in dive comp, too.
There is another secret buff for zarya which is very important for maximizing her damage if you noticed they changed the sound of her beam when it reaches 1-10 ammo so you can know your ammo is running out so you can use bomb at 1-10 ammo to maximize damage check it out
I could feel the difference yesterday as she felt great, I just didn't understand the difference. This is great for my main.
Ant Khan yay :) same
Ant Khan Exactly!!! I played her yesterday and it felt so much better!
Ant Khan same
yep, ditto :D
Finally! I was missing the nice feeling Quake's lightningun has with its instantaneous hit-scan damage. I'm glad they fixed this to provide that consistency and feel. Love it!
When your main gets nerfed... but in fact doesn't!
20 percent is not a small marginal decrease lol
Each bubble used to max out at 50 charge, now it's 40. So what would be marginal to you? 5? -F
Your Overwatch Nothing even matters, because Zarya will always be a meta pick while everyone else is lagging behind. Nerf? More like side grade. -F
Did you just forge his signature oh my gourd reported
It's High Noot Plz, I got family! They're only in bronze!
if they are bronze they arent family you need
Rein is also starting to lag in the tank role because a good Sombra can just take his shield sown.
which is good. rein is dominating on tanking. he needs a hard counter
Eh, Sombra is pretty bad atm, I don't think she's too meta-defining yet though she theoretically is decent at countering Reinhardt. It's impossible to hack him almost, so you really only have your ult to use.
Doesnt make Reinhardt useless. I murdered Sombras when hacked
She doesnt tank his health or reduce his hammer. I killed loads of Sombras when hacked
***** I agree that she's not a meta defining pick. But she certainly provides some support as a clean up and health pack control.
Why are people throwing comp games cause they think they are god tier sombra players
Furthermore, she's quite bad. That's even worse, it's like Ana all over again but I find Ana more useful when she was released.
ChilledoutDevil ana paired with lucio almost required
MACKAVELI93 I feel like a good sombra can make it work on attack
MACKAVELI93 other than that I totally feel ur pain
They've always _practiced_ though. Are you trying to say that 2 hours on PTR where absolutely nobody cares and usually leave anyway isn't good comp experience?
"Support ults are broken" looking at you zen
shh zen is fine, his base healing isnt even that good he needs his ult, anyway zen will pocket it regardless until ults start flying anyway so nothing changes
K den support ults are broken now? They were broken at the beginning of the game and have now had a counter added to the game. (sombra with Lucio ult and ana with zen ult and indirectly nerfed mercy because of her burst healing potential and better ult) they are still strong but not broken.
friendlyelites zen can put harmony orb on a dps and that heroes damage charges zens ult. unless they fixed it already but i dont think they did. thats why hes broken.
Wilson Stoddard I was just giving an example to a quote they said during the video, I know they have been a little to good for a little to long now.
Man it feels so fucking fantastic actually being able to hit a genji now, The amount of times i saw my beam physically hitting them and not doing damage killed part of my soul.
Idk how it is on PC,but Soldier formed a totally new Meta in the Game I see him in every Game since yesterday. He feels way to strong on PS4 at the moment. He just kills squishys way faster now and he does not have to rely that much on his helix rockets anymore.
Jerninator he's way to strong on ps4 and they need to separate balance like they said they would
Jerninator Yeah i usually play reaper or mccree for dps cos old soldier felt awk but now he feels easy mode on ps4
Jerninator Same on xbox. he's now better against heros who are 250 health or lower. I thought he was good eithout this buff. But he is back to tear up anyone lol. But atleast im happy with pharah and zarya buff
TommyGTR Pharah needs a revert imo a bit too much at once with her
MCKOOKIE yea i felt she was too good. I was doing bad as mccree, then switch to pharah, i did so much work. I used to main her and i still got the skills, but her rockets are powerful and I stayed pretty much flying not touching the ground as much.
freedo, I love how passionate and excited your voice is when you talk about this game.
Wow, I thought I was going crazy when my Zarya beam wouldn't connect on people, even though I was tracking them well. Especially on Lucio and Zen.
I always felt like there was something a little off about Zarya's beam, probably gonna start playing her more now.
Been having a lot of success with Zarya lately, I noticed the change in the beam now it's easier to keep track of those small targets like tracer, genji and lucio delaying the elimination so it's a welcomed buff.
I did notice a huge difference when playing her on the PTR indeed. I was like "wow, I hit everything, what's going on?" but I thought it was the sensitivity that was better.
Was unaware of the beam change. Thanks for the info!
This is great to hear. I did notice that it seemed that you needed to keep your beam on a target longer in order to consistently inflict damage, but I had assumed that that was intentional programming to reward better accuracy.
This is exactly what will happen when they fix roadhogs hook. It's a fix but in turn it buffs him as there's no wonky hitboxes on heroes like ana and hanzo
I see a lot more effective use of winston and DVA on the team I play on and I love it it feels so nice. I also see Reinhardt still being played a lot I just see an more overall balance
Has anybody noticed that Lucio's projectiles travel faster now? I didn't see it mentioned in the patch notes but his gun does feel different, more consistent.
Being that everyone I get on my team never wants to play tank, and I have to play Zarya all the time I for sure noticed the beam reaches farther. It's great.
roadhogs hook changed as well, I could hook somebody but just before I reeled them in the hook suddenly became unhooked
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It's crazy how the overwatch fanart on my channel gets absurdly more views than everything else - this game is still so popular!
Holy shit that made all the difference in my 1v1 earlier, and I kinda noticed it. I usually couldn't use the beam very well, but early today I managed to disrupt my opponent just enough that when exposed to my beam without a bubble I was able to burn through them much more efficiently than usual
I actually noticed her kinda wonky old beam a few weeks before the patch when I was trying to destroy Symm turrets. I quickly swiped from the first one to the second one and nothing happened. I ended up just alt firing them.
I didn't notice the beam thing, but I did noticed the fact you get the ult faster
Nice update yes! But sadly for the better aiming people that it closens the gap between them and the average zarya
I feel like Roadhog got a stealth nerf, I simply cant kill enemies with low health with the hook-shoot-melee anymore, and no one is talking about this...
Charles Müller try the trick where you turn to the side after landing the hook
it has to do with the hitbox on certain squishy heroes, I don't think he's gotten nerfed in the way you thinj
Charles Müller good.
This is such a smart move from blizzard. With the bubble AND beam changes they nerfed her for pro play but buffed her for noobs.
not necessarily for noobs. this is a buff for all players
That_Assassins_Ass Nah top Zaryas had no problem with the tracking with the beam.
I know that before I never had an Issue with the beam so the fact that they made the beam easier made no difference.
If its a buff for noobs that means its less of a hassle for experienced players
Cool, I didn't know they changed her beam! Thank you for the update
Hey Freedo. When I'm using Widowmaker, when is a good time to use my ultimate? During a team fight? before? Does it really matter when?
This is more of a bug fix than a buff.
Thanks for this video, because Zarya is one of my mains I was a little upset with the nerf this makes me feel better! Keep up the good work.
Raz TheAnimeGamer same
I would really like to see a video explaining exactly how Dva fits in the meta right now and in what situations she is viable.
did it say anything about this bug fix or whatever in the patch notes or now? i didnt fully understand.
Nice video, thx for the information.
Another little hidden thing I've noticed is when dva gets ejected it's more forceful now so if you get knocked out of mech you can spring back away from the fight and survive easier now
i played Zarya after watching this, and the difference was really noticable. so happy they changed her beam
soldier 76 and zayra are good counters to sombra so i think these 2 will be a most pick in competetive season 3
"As Lucio shucks and jives across the field"...yo, for fucking real?
I played her after the patch and was surprised at how quickly I was getting my ult and why I wasn't getting absolutely wrecked with less charge, now that all makes sense, thank you!
I noticed this last night. Thought I was going crazy because this wasn't mentioned in the patch notes. xD
is everyone getting tired or this sombrapocolypse in no limit play?
Makes for good Roadhog practice!
give it two weeks... It's like the Anatomic. It stoped pretty fast.
Eric Nuval Go play quick play?
Mario Andres Ballesteros i want to play sombra but she's automatically picked in quickplay so i tried no limit and everyone picks sombra and we end up losing 😆
Eric Nuval I know how that feels xD give it a few weeks people will stop playing her
holy shit i instantly saw that effectiveness of the beam.. i always though my aim sucked when i tried to trace lucio
"Lucio shuckin and jivin" I laughed out loud for no reason.
Does the Zarya Beam aiming work the same way on console? I play on Xbox so I was wondering if this affects me the same way.
I played a King's Row game last night and their Mercy got two rezes in a minute and 45 seconds.
It's because of the way charging her ult works. I believe her ult is 1300 points, and you get 4 points each 1 HP healed and 2 for some odd amount of damage your connected targets do. If the Mercy is good and healing everybody at a rapid pace she will get ult in about 30 to 40 seconds if the fight is going on constantly
If she's alive the whole time and pops it very soon after she has it, then it's totally normal
I've played many KOH matches where I just don't get to charge Zarya's ulti not even once. Matches end before I get to 80% most of the time. The nerf on her charge rate was enough to make her ulti charge slower, add the +25% ulti cost to that and she's been nerfed twice in one patch, despite her ulti already being the slowest in the game.
Yes i noticed this yesterday. I can now track and hit targets continuously with Zarya.
"Im Lovin it" :)
"As (Lucio) shucks and jives across the map..." peculiar word choice to say the least.
i notice this so much and didnt know why this was a issue. if i was in a zarya on zarya fight it would be whoever use there shield first would lose because say your good and your jumping to avoid the beam, but you use your shield it wont take damage because the beam would lock on time and you only probably get 13 or 20 points. but if your return damage you give the other zarya time to activate her shield and soak up more damage than you get which she could turn on you and you lose.
I might give Zarya another go. I previously found that I couldn't use her beam at all. So I wasn't able to get enough value out of her. Hopefully things are now a little easier.
Thanks for the video guys!. Hitting the beam was the hardest part of playing Zarya on console. Hoping this helps. Great stuff
Sucks. Tracking on PC is very enjoyable.
Volskaya upgrade her weapon like the new mechs at "Infiltration" last scene
A small patch just hit, they fixed the "support getting ults too fast" issue
oh my god I thought I was losing my mind there was a hit detection issue
I noticed the beam change too. Many Quake/UT players have been asking for this for a looooooong time. Best bug-fix ever.
I knew something was different about her beam
I thought my shitty internet was why I never seemed to damage them when I strafed, can't wait to try this out.
So this is the only reason why I lost that 1v1 round. Damn. I would've thought I'd notice something like this seeing as how I main Zarya.
thank god finally good change I hated the weird old beam
sooo many things constantly working against genji...sombra existing and denying health packs, soldiers damage buff, zarya doing constant damage and shitty teammates enabling her
fuck man
The beam used to do what!? And here I just thought I was terrible at tracking.
I knew there was something different! Nice!
definitely easier to land your primary fire on targets now.
So her beam went from a particle attack to hitscan?
Hi, It was fun playing vs you guys :)
I couldn't exactly understand the change from watching this video so I found these quotes from the b.net forums:
''They upped the tick rate of the her beam, meaning damage will register faster when the beam passes over a target. It used to be that the beam needed to remain on the target for a moment before ticking damage, but now you can for example swipe back and forth across a target and deal damage.''
''so they made it register damage on the first tick, instead of after confirming and activating on the 2nd tick?
sounds like a bug fix.''
Indeed it's an AWESOME bug fix that nets a big increase in damage production. Nisssssse
I really wonder why Blizz keeps changes like these out of their patch notes...
Your right about the supports getting there ult's to fast. I main mercy and if there is a d'va on my team I can get my ult in the middle of the teams first fight.
Not to mention, Sombra can drop Rein shields now!
me and my friend just started ana + rein too...thankfully we've also been doing pharmercy so hopefully that combo is back
Ava I cant see pharah being good with the recent soldier buff
+Zim yeah but we arent masters or anything so i doubt people will have that good tracking but im just hoping things go good honestly, gonna try it out after we get the oni genji skin
Pharah and Mercy both got a buff, however so did soldier and widowmaker. I'm curious to see the interactions between pharmercy and its counters with this new patch.
Don't really need to have good tracking to be in masters, I know plenty of sandbaggers in plat level just climbing right as we speak. It's not even soldier that's the issue for Pharah, McCree is.
I'm still hoping she'll be back. Soldier's buff is mean to Pharah, but his spread is wide. Widow will be a harder counter, but that's if she gets back in the meta. And with Pharah's boost buff, she'll be more mobile and hopefully dodge her counters better.
So, while the damage ticks for every single unit of ammo as well it should have to begin with, the fact remains that he's dealing a fourth the damage she used to per hit - four times as often, sure - and armor is applying to and reducing her damage four times more often than it used to.
I would definitely need to see the numbers to be sure of exactly how much damage she's lost on big armor targets, but I'm totally done even bothering shooting D.vas through their defense matrices now.
I always keep in mind that the Developers said that they would add secret updates without telling.
i just thought i had bad internet connection that's why zarya's beam lagged a bit
When I was playing her I didn't even notice a change. Lol.
Calling it right now, sweeping declaration:
R.I.P. Deathball Meta, this is the patch of the "Dive Comp"
I've noticed the damage and ult time has increased easily by 20% now that her beam has been fixed. It's a HUGE change that makes using her beam actually worth using over the mortar. Beam was always supposed to be the fastest way to get charge but because of its wonky hitbox detection it never really panned out that way.
i thought something was different when i was playing zarya recently
It's not a "small, marginal decrease" to her charge gain. It's pretty significant and noticeable. ESPECIALLY when you play against enemies that have the slightest hint of trigger discipline. She was fine and the nerf really wasn't needed.
Wheres that change in patch notes?
Nice voice crack at 1:00
3-4 zarya ults was impressive?? damn I didn't know I was that good at zarya :P
You know what less Rein means? MORE ROADHOG!!!
And more Roadhog means more Reaper.
And sombra. Stopping that hook and heals. I don't play road but I imagine that's gotta hurt.
Victim of Lag Its impossible to get more reapers than now. All matches have reapers.
Colin Brown Squishies SHALL NOT be safe!
Colin Brown Fuck roadhog :(
tbh this is more of a bug fix, if the description is that it stopped doing damage due to hitboxes. Regardless, if it really does reprimand her nerf, she needs more
Bad choice of words with lució shucking and jiving
Why does it feel like you do more damage with your beam than I ever do? Their hp are going down like immediately
soldier is still not "melting" rein's shield...
The soldier buff has made me so much more efficient that I've gotten some accusations of aimbot, oh does it feel good tho.
i'm a zarya main so this is great to hear
holy crap I thought that was coz of my 60 ping :o that's so awesome
As a Zarya main, i am satisfied.
Got me convinced.