@@LightTrack- Well, when you know you can't get back on safe ground anymore, it's better to just fall and die, instead of gliding and dying 2-4 seconds later.
Exactly. Her weakness is being focused and burned down before she can shift a fight in their favor. Not unlike Reinhardt, burn his shield and him down, suddenly the enemy has no cover or anchor point and his value is removed largely, especially since he can't ultimate if he is dead...and his ultimate is of course a very good one for turning a battle.
"It gives her power, why would you want to do that?" So you are saying you don't want to give Zarya power just because she is a female? Typical male misogynist.
Yes but if for example junkrat did his ult zaryas shield would absorb all that power then break. many times have i gained full charge in a game as someone ults my low hp team mate and i have full charge and that 6 vs 6 becomes a team kill due to a well placed shield :) zarya works best with another tank imo the very second reinhart charges in give shield when his charge has finished he does shed loads of damage with his melee has a 200 shield and i am deal a load of damage at the same time destroying there defences
Something that seemed to be neglected in this guide are some actual numbers. Zarya shields soak 200hp max, and last two seconds (via Oversheet.) Knowing that, the rules here feel pretty straight forward. If your team *can't* focus dps on Zarya to *secure a kill*, then waiting the shield out is better. If the shielded non-Zarya target is not a high priority (even if you can kill them) and Zarya might have ult soon, then waiting out the shield is still better. As others mentioned, I do feel you understate the value of an amped Zarya (it's the difference between her being able to solo-wipe your team if she has an ult, and not being able to,) but I agree with the general message of the video. Sometimes, intentionally shooting Zarya shield is worth doing.
It's pretty hard for zarya to solo wipe a team even with 100% charge and her ult. if they have a rein he can stick up his shield, mei can put up a wall, zen can ult, dva can block your shots, characters with movement can get out of it, mei and reaper can use their invincibility, i'm sure there's more examples as well. The point is you can rely on being super powered and killing their whole team by yourself, especially bc if the enemy team sees you glowing, they'll focus you down. your team will probably have less dps over all if they pick off a dps anyway.
i main DVA. my strategy with a charged shielded zarya is to lead her into other people, since like tracer, they always seem to focus directly on me and will follow me like lost puppy thinking im panicking.
@ Theiggliest buff: It's happened enough for me. Perhaps not so much true "solo wipes" but countless quad kills that snowball on. I've always been surprised that I don't see more fitting reactions to it to be honest, but those buffed AOE blasts can be brutal if they don't stop you, or were distracted by another threat. Naturally you should never actually _rely_ on pulling it off solo, but if you're paying attention to who you're using it on, good opportunities do come up. Health wise, there are only five characters that she can't three shot from full health. If they have already taken at least 20 points of damage, the majority go down in two. There are lots of counter abilities, but people often aren't ready for it.
In pro play there is never a time when a player is a not high priority to be killed. Man advantage is so high, its always worth killing the player. Zarya shields are very low gain for the loss of the player.
Wrel Thank you for the numbers! I was under the impression that the Zarya shield was invulnerable and could not figure out why shooting shielded low health people was so important. Appreciate the clarification!
a big part of this is that the game itself does not tell you that the barrier has HP at all, when i started playing this game i assumed it had infinate since it didnt diplay an HP number..
great idea. It should indeed (and that's someone who plays tons of Zarya saying that) : the idea of barriers cracking (like Winston's) is to give a visual indicator to help poorly coordinated teams keep focusing a severely damaged barrier. Same should apply for Zarya's imho
It's for 2 seconds, perhaps it should have a fading away effect to see how long it will last, as cracking would probably not be visually recognized by most players before the barrier was gone anyway.
Damnit Freedo. I mean, your not wrong, sometimes its good to focus down a Zarya shield, but a bunch of people that only kind of understand this are going to see this video and then go into my comp games and just start randomly shooting Zarya shields at all the wrong times, so that Zarya will give me a hard time with her DPS.
There are some games I played where people are so paranoid with zarya shields. Like when its almost a team kill and the only one left is zarya at less than 50% hp and she pops her shield. Everyone suddenly stops shooting her. Like wtf. Do you guys not know that her shield has a cap?
Blizzard should really start adding more detailed descriptions on heroes if thats the case. Like how much damage does 1 pellet from reapers shotgun do. I dont even think people read hero details.
The shields specific health is 200hp, in case you were wondering, if you have 2 or more people vs one enemy with a barrier, odds are that you will be able to confirm the kill on a low hp target.
yeah... there's no information so I had to look this up, and I wish the game would tell so I wouldn't have to... Also there's no training mode like street fighter which tells you how much damage specific moves deal and everything like that so I have no other real way of knowing.
I thought this was obvious, but TL;DR you should shoot Zarya's shields when you can kill whoever is in it. The gain zarya gets is negated by killing her or killing whoever the shield is on. Zarya at 50% doesn't make up for killing a support or a dps, and if you kill her the charge doesn't matter.
Tehstool But if the Zarya us currently engaged in battle, particularly with you, it'll be bad and your team will probably loose a player in return. And if you don't manage to kill the dps because you might get melted by Zarya because you shot her shields, then you didn't help anyone. Please don't take me as rude, this is just my view on things.
This is my number 1 frustration in Overwatch. To reiterate; If shes dead she has 0 power. Zarya only has 600hp (200h, 200s, 200b) and no escapes or heals above that. If you focus her, she's squishier than Hog. Also, if she has full power she doesn't get more if you hit the shield. Good to keep in mind.
I figured out a long time ago that it is fine to melt Zarya shield if you are confident in confirming the Zarya kill but never thought about when confirming her team mates deaths. Nice insight.
As a Zarya main, I save many valuable lives with a shield that probably should have been shot through, I'm glad you are spreading this knowledge, it'll help me maintain higher charge ;)
Yeee boi. I have to get this average energy up. Apparently my 35% average is top 5%, which is kind of sad, but now I'm gonna have 60% average, and be the number 1 Zarya in the world lol
Andrew_the_pro At first i thought you had your sensitivity really low, and then i realized you're playing on PS4 lol. Looked like everyone had really slow reaction times or something but nah it's just that turning speed, but good job, that was really good gameplay. You should make a Zarya guide if you haven't already, the world could always use more Zaryas
+Francisco rodriguez 35% is top 5??Jesus christ people have no idea how to soak. I get around 57-60 in my better games, and 45-50 in my worse. When you see the rein fire striking when youre about to engage, soak it with shield. free 50 energy. Same if you see: Someone getting hooked, someone from your team ulting, getting nano boosted, winston jumping in etc. Not only are you removing discord from them, but if hes getting focused down (like discord targets usually) you will gain tons of energy due to the inconsistensy of the damage type and adding extra 200hp for him.
The issue is at my level people chase down low health players in the shield, over extend and get fragged themselves. in that case the enemy gains more than we lose. There is a good time to shoot it, just not at the start of a team foght
I always shoot through Zarya's shield with Mei. Mei does not give her too much charge as her freezing beam does so little damage, but having the beam continuously focusing her can give you a couple of tenths of freezing compared vs you reacting to Zarya's shield wearing out and then start freezing her.
Shoot a Zarya shield if you are absolutely certain that you can deal over 200 damage to it in two seconds, or over 400 damage to it in two seconds if it's someone else Zarya shielded. Otherwise just wait it out. It's not worth giving her extra charge unless you can actually break the shield in those two seconds and then deal the damage afterward to get the kill. The fact that you didn't mention that part makes it sound like you just want people to shoot you more and give you extra charge.
I too believed that one should never fire at Zarya's shields at some point, but that was because I didn't know that her shields can only absorb 200 damage.
I play Zarya a shit ton, over 30 hours on her, and popping shields on big target allies and or myself when I'm in a pinch is the hallmark of utilizing her well. A good Zarya is going to get charge no matter what, but lemme tell you guys something: If 2 people are on me, the shield goes down REALLY quickly and she becomes less of a problem, especially Offense heroes. I can sustain over a long period, but quick burst damage from discord, Reaper or McCree headshots and I'm toast
Zarya is an example of a hero who was likely hard to categorize and perhaps MIS-categorized as a tank. While she can sustain extended firefights, she crumbles faster than any tank under focus. Her barriers are great for surviving clutch burst damage, but having to save allies with them to get anywhere near her true damage potential makes her infinitely more situational than other tanks, often relegating her to an off-tank role. the fact that she lacks the easy targeting of other tanks also makes her much harder to use in a close-range brawl, even though it makes her decent at longer range sieges. Her ultimate is also the least impactful on it's own, being unable to kill outright like D.va, actually stun like Reinhardt, move people any real distance like Winston, or a combination like Roadhog. She's more dependent on team followup than any other tank and her actual tankiness comes in short bursts, making her much harder to use effectively, more difficult to fit in team comps and much easier to focus down, since she lacks on-demand healing, armor or sheer HP of other tanks.
I think you're severely under-representing just how much value Zarya gets from you shooting her shields. It's easy to say it's "not a big deal" until she's at full charge shredding right through your D.Va in the blink of an eye. It's obviously situational but as a Zarya player I don't stress it at all to see shields get broken, hell I might even say a teammate's life is worth getting 100% charge as you already know that life is going to be made up for from at least one on the enemy team.
You can't just say such an absolute. Overwatch is a game of different situations, each one needing to be dealt with differently. What if the charge you gain allows you to get ult and lets you kill 3+ people with that ult? Then was it worth the teammate life who, at this point, is probably back shooting at the enemy team anyways?
Honestly I've never seen this as a problem. As a rank 78 player, it's pretty well known that Zarya's shield has a cap and she will often become the most targeted person on her team simply due to the fact that her one true counter is just to kill her first, especially when she is glowing like a christmas tree.
If you're focus-firing Zarya, a good Zarya can almost always break LoS and regen shields a bit, which is exactly how she does her job as a tank. Firing purposefully into her shields is almost never objectively better than switching targets for a second or two then switching right back.
a good zarya cannot just break los whenever she wants, she doesn't even have a movement ability. of course i'm sure there are exceptions to this rule like if your team mate is playing torbjorn and they're just sitting on their turret anyway, if you get full charge from that then it's probably value for you. But if a dps dies then it doesn't matter how much damage you get from it, your team dps will most likely be lower. if a support dies then your sustain is gone and again, you damage wont matter if you all die in 10 seconds.
I play a lot of Roadhog and always shoot her shield cause I'm not intimidated by her DPS and usually show dominance by pushing her hard and solo ulting her.
No, they last 2 seconds and absorb infinite (we assume) damage. All damage done to her shields adds to her weapon charge which does more damage at higher charge, thus the fallacy people have about not shooting the shields EVER. This video explains why you SHOULD shoot the shields, but only in certain situations: such as a low health enemy or an enemy your team is planning to burn down.
+Jesse Wiggers so the only reason you should shoot the shield in said situations would be that otherwise you might not be quick enough to kill the target before it escapes. You could actually stay close to your target and shoot it as soon as the shield expires to make sure it doesnt escapes... Seems more logical to me
MrDenmellen you could, but the risk could be that you A) didn't see when the shield was placed, thus you won't know the timing or B) you could still be a few bullets off from killing them outright if you hadn't been already firing just before the shield's protection wears off. For the most part, it's up to the player when to shoot: Frito made a decent point about Zarya's charge in the video: it decays at a reasonable rate, and it's reset to 0 if she dies, so it's all situational in the end.
Don't shoot unless you can kill what's inside. For example, if you hook a Tank at full health with Roadhog and he gets shielded while you carry him over; Don't pull the trigger. The Tank won't die and can probably run away or protect himself before you shoot your second blast. All you'd do, is charge Zarya's Power and do nothing.
I always just shoot right through her shield as bastion. They think they're about to get a bunch of free energy only to get mowed down before they can duck back into cover.
generally don't shoot it if you can't do 200 damage in less than 2 seconds since that's 2 seconds you could be doing damage to someone else which actually can take damage and help but if three people focus it and take it down in half a second then by all means go for it that's 1.5 seconds you can now be doing damage to someone else.
I always shoot a Zarya's shield if it's on the Zarya herself, because I can always just keep firing away at the damage source the shields affect. Typically don't shoot the shields if it's not on a Zarya and if the Zarya isn't close enough for me to focus her down.
As someone who plays a decent amount of bastion when I'm not playing a support or pharah, I get irritated when people call me stupid for melting someone who has been shielded. Like bruh, I can go through their shield and entire health pool in less time than it would take for the shield to go away on its own, so why wait? Unless Zarya has a Rein or I'm positioned poorly so that she can fling orbs at me from cover, she still can't face a bastion with high energy and come out on top. Genji is the only exception I run into often; he can just wait till the shield pops and deflect, forcing me to stop shooting at him before he dashes into cover. THAT would be free Zarya energy. Killing a mercy as she flies towards the front, completely ignoring the shield is not.
Yeah, I agree. If you totally have the DPS just brute force blow through her shields and take her down. A not dead Zarya in the long run can be dangerous.
Technically it's better to wait for the shield when she is the last alive because she would be staggered. Sometimes I will shoot it if I'm a strong dps sometimes because I know I can burst them down
As Roadhog, you should shoot the shield. 1. Hook Zarya 2. Shoot Zarya 3. Break barrier 4. Shoot Zarya again Zarya is dead (unless she got a Pocket heal of coarse.)
Not sure about this one tho, because sure in pro play you can just focus fire or play around the zarya..in soloQ however you probably wont be able to burn the shield before it falls off anyway in most situations. And i feel extremly strong with 100 energy and unlike you said, i feel totally able to carry the fight on my dps alone.
hey you should go into character controls and scroll down on to Zarya and turn on allied health bars so you can dole out shields to lower health people, it can save lives
Wait, I don't know if I missed this in the video so you may have already addressed it, but is it possible to break a Zarya shield if you do enough damage to it? Or is focus firing shielded squishies a matter of making sure the target is quickly killed right after the shield expires on it's own?
it also depends on how good the zarya is. if she is easily the best player in the whole match then its a worse idea to shoot her shield than if she was easily the worst player in the match killing her is still a good idea though, regardless of how good she is
But you required you ultimate, and then we should consider everyone else's ultimate. If they have a Mercy in the bubble and you weren't paying attention (or she flew out cuz an ally wasn't caught)? Everyone's Revived. Zenyatta and Lucio's ultimates will get in the way as well. There is also a good number of character who can just "leave" the bubble, including Reinhart, who can charge at you and prevent you from bothering the team (but he's not there cuz luck, right?); Reaper, who can wraith out of there and then try to punish you if you protected yourself during the ultimate; Graviton Surge is also the slowest charging ultimate in the game, so I somewhat doubt that even a good Zarya still cannot take on a 4+ by herself even with her ultimate.
Then they get away and that player survives heal, and hell who knows Q (if they have it). Frag will always be worth more than a little bit of damage the character gets.
Epso RKS Obviously you have to be careful if the player is close to death and there is an enemy healer nearby, but acting like that's the case in most situations is not accurate.
+Epso RKS using absolutes is what makes things false such as the fallacy youve used that a frag is always worth more than the charge up heres an example from a recent game where i was zarya. enemys reaper took down my shields so i popped my bubble to survive and my team focused him till he wraithed at which point i shielded our 25 hp mei from a roadhog hook combo at which point i had full charge and a q i pop my q as the reaper is coming back from wraith form and get a triple kill of their healers and reaper and we lost a mei then we focused roadhog and dva down and capped the point. if there roadhog hadnt been fraghappy and had some s.a. there lucio couldve gotten his beatdrop off and saved his team because i wouldnt have been able to melt him quick ennough had i not been at 80 charge they literally traded 1 for 5 in that situation.
willhwiltjr A frag is always worth more than charge up. If a team can't communicate well and you win that makes it untrue? Nah, a frag is worth more than some charge up, but its situational when it comes down to it.
Because we all know that Freedo is absolutely perfect at overwatch and never can do any wrong ever, therefore he's always right and no one can ever criticize him
This whole video seems like it should be common sense. The only time I call for teammates not to shoot zarya shields is when its a bad zarya fishing for charge. You know the type of Zarya that bubbles a teammate as they peek, not actually saving their life or benefiting them in any way but maybe they get 15-20 extra charge off of it? Yeah, that kind. If you're breaking the shield to confirm the kill, who gives a shit if she gets charge? She's dead.
Whoever thinks you should avoid shooting a shield at all costs is a damned fool. Don't feed her charge unnecessarily, but if there is a kill opportunity, shoot through it. It also only absorbs 200 damage, so... yeah. Worst case you full charge Zarya, best case you kill the person you're after and the enemy team is down a player in the fight.
If you're on my team and you're a random, you shoot her shields just enough to keep her at about 137% charge for the entire round then die right before you kill her so when I come around a corner, I find her fully charged EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
Shields can absorb 200hp... You're going to waste time shooting someone with a shield. You start shooting when you know the shield is about to go down but not during the whole shield that's just stupid. You're giving the Zarya charge and doing nothing in return if you shoot during a full shield cycle. TLDR: Zarya shield pops, wait one second, then fire.
I love your guy's videos. So many people get angry and upset and stuff and it's funny tbh. You all have been in the FPS for years understandably and I think everyone can take some knowledge from any video imo
I agree and disagree. Shredding shields works when theyre overextended and out of position. Just trying to do it in a teamfight is a pretty bad idea, because thats goign to translate into Zarya's damage, which is actually fairly strong at 100 charge. Also, Spending that time shredding the shield is time you are not spending on other enemy players. If shes or someone else is overextended, go for it. Shred that shit cause they cant beat you. But in an even team fight, its better to be a bit wary and wait for them to burn it or use it poorly. Cause to be frank, sinking that one kill may doom you if youre spending time trying to kill soldier 76 while Zarya ults and phara or junkrat follow up ult.
I don't understand him. It's not a fallacy. Confirming a frag doesn't mean you have to shoot the shielded target for the full duration of the shield, wait a second then start shooting. This could be the difference between zarya getting 50% and 100% charge, which is just massive.
The shield only has 200hp, compared to Reinhardts 2000 and winston's 800. When having enough dps, you can just break her shield, and kill her before those 2 seconds would've even ended. In that 2 second period a lot could happen and killing her right then, might prevent her putting a barrier on an ulting pharah, genji, mercy, lucio. Which can cause your team to be wiped out. A zarya's dps is never a real threat, it's what a zarya needs to be viable in the first place, the real threat is her shields.
yeah but come on. there is a context for everything. you shoot it you get punished by an ulti and some alt fire from zarya. why would we do that if that was her plan? if she uses shield then focus another target who doesn't have shield. it's just that simple. I really dislike this channel because it's trying too hard to feel superior to everyone else and trying to tell people how to play the game while making up new terms, using fallacy for every single thing they deemed "wrong", and other bullshit. it just comes off as snobby. overwatch central is just better than this channel. These are the type of people who think poking (sorry im not calling it trash damage that's just plain stupid.) is not necessary, yet shooting a zarya shield is? what? lmao. alright.
That is bullsht actualy :D If you have hitscan weapon dont shoot at all. Because it hit instantly. If you have projectile weapon you can wait some but not until shield end. Very close to shield and start to shoot so when shield end your projectile hit that enemy
+Jackson Cox l can't tell if this is sarcasm or if you're getting bursted down super quickly.... Ah, the harsh world of the internet. +Pigousaur That's a way some classes, like Engie or Heavy, bait you in. They sit there, wait for decloak or time it, and turn around. Hope you like the taste of lead, l don't.
If only everyone watched these videos. I often just have that group of people who just gladly spams random shots to her shields but never finishes her off. (Especially with Junkrat, I know it might be hard to aim your shots but can someone please just kill the full boosted Zarya after that.) If I play a tank, I often pick Dva, and yeah it is pretty annoying to see that for the whole match, the enemy Zarya is alive all the time and fully boosted. I can't exactly do anything about it since my mech is being melted away right after she sees me, which will have to make me change since obviously everyone else is too good for that and I am feeling a little tiny bit useless when their Zarya has me on her target everytime that I come back. And after I've changed I just get blamed that we lost because I changed the tank. Thanks! So just a friendly reminder, that Zarya is a killable hero too, you don't need to be afraid to shoot her. Same thing often goes to Genji, people seem to be afraid to shoot him when he uses his ultimate.
2:02 well yeah, you're D. Va and you were shooting him from a pretty long distance away. You didn't give her much power anyway. Now, if you were reaper, nd close up, it would've better to wait for the shield to go down
i use that mentality sometime just smash it and take her down i usually dont but im a tracer main so i usually am hassling her ive got gameplay on my channel of how i deal with her. just depends on the zarya and her team also if shes protected the the charge will be effective but thats probably more in comp
This video would make a lot more sense if you quote the amount of damage Zarya's shield can take. If someone thinks its a 2 sec invuln none of your advice makes sense unfortunately.
Isn't it obvious? besides it's easier to do with 2 or 3 teammates. even a Reaper will have a hard time solo killing a Zarya, especially when you have her team mates focusing on you. it's just unavoidable... he pretty much says why
I feel like the people that needs this video to explain the reasoninga behind shooting through zarya's shield at crucial moments is lacking common sense
Anyone feel like Zarya's top damage should be nerfed? I mean dealing 190 damage per second at max charge is absolutely ridiculous. And I agree with the video. I was always annoyed when people said to counter Zarya by not shooting her. I mean, if two people focus her, she's dead really quick, shield or not. Zarya is easy to kill, like really easy to kill. Just make sure mercy or other big healers are dead before burning through a Zarya and her shield. Because if lucio ults while zarya has 100% charge, that 190 dps is gonna melt your team in no time at all.
Er, no. How are you going to say she's easy to kill when focused and then ask for a damage nerf? Properly placing your barriers over yourself and teammates shouldn't be punished by giving her less DPS. Plus her high energy level decreases rapidly (as Freedo explained, 2 points per second) enough that if you aren't feeding her barrier she shouldn't be a problem.
worst feeling ever, dying 2 seconds after getting 100 power with Zarya lmao
Or free-falling down a cliff as Mercy while your team physically refuses to come anywhere close to you.
Tbh if you're free-falling instead of gliding, it's partially your own fault too. :)
@@LightTrack- Well, when you know you can't get back on safe ground anymore, it's better to just fall and die, instead of gliding and dying 2-4 seconds later.
@@Nathanyel Yeah then but not if you don't even give them a chance to save you.
"How dare you shoot through Zarya's shield and then kill her, resulting in her respawning with 0 charge!"
Exactly. Her weakness is being focused and burned down before she can shift a fight in their favor.
Not unlike Reinhardt, burn his shield and him down, suddenly the enemy has no cover or anchor point and his value is removed largely, especially since he can't ultimate if he is dead...and his ultimate is of course a very good one for turning a battle.
So...
Counter heroes by killing them?
Well, you're not wrong.
"It gives her power, why would you want to do that?" So you are saying you don't want to give Zarya power just because she is a female? Typical male misogynist.
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To realistic for my taste
I feel like there are quite a few people who don't realize that there's a limit to how much her shield can take.
200 damage is a lot, but really with her 400 hp, even with the shield she's got a Winston-esque 600 hp pool, but she's much slower with 0 mobility. -F
+Your Overwatch Roadhog-esque* you mean?
Yes but if for example junkrat did his ult zaryas shield would absorb all that power then break. many times have i gained full charge in a game as someone ults my low hp team mate and i have full charge and that 6 vs 6 becomes a team kill due to a well placed shield :) zarya works best with another tank imo the very second reinhart charges in give shield when his charge has finished he does shed loads of damage with his melee has a 200 shield and i am deal a load of damage at the same time destroying there defences
200 barrier also makes her deceptively tanky.
You Reinhardt shouldn't be charging in most of the time.
HEY, DO A VIDEO ON REINHARDT CHARGE TIMES THAT'S A GOOD IDEA
Something that seemed to be neglected in this guide are some actual numbers. Zarya shields soak 200hp max, and last two seconds (via Oversheet.) Knowing that, the rules here feel pretty straight forward. If your team *can't* focus dps on Zarya to *secure a kill*, then waiting the shield out is better. If the shielded non-Zarya target is not a high priority (even if you can kill them) and Zarya might have ult soon, then waiting out the shield is still better.
As others mentioned, I do feel you understate the value of an amped Zarya (it's the difference between her being able to solo-wipe your team if she has an ult, and not being able to,) but I agree with the general message of the video. Sometimes, intentionally shooting Zarya shield is worth doing.
It's pretty hard for zarya to solo wipe a team even with 100% charge and her ult. if they have a rein he can stick up his shield, mei can put up a wall, zen can ult, dva can block your shots, characters with movement can get out of it, mei and reaper can use their invincibility, i'm sure there's more examples as well. The point is you can rely on being super powered and killing their whole team by yourself, especially bc if the enemy team sees you glowing, they'll focus you down. your team will probably have less dps over all if they pick off a dps anyway.
i main DVA. my strategy with a charged shielded zarya is to lead her into other people, since like tracer, they always seem to focus directly on me and will follow me like lost puppy thinking im panicking.
@ Theiggliest buff: It's happened enough for me. Perhaps not so much true "solo wipes" but countless quad kills that snowball on. I've always been surprised that I don't see more fitting reactions to it to be honest, but those buffed AOE blasts can be brutal if they don't stop you, or were distracted by another threat. Naturally you should never actually _rely_ on pulling it off solo, but if you're paying attention to who you're using it on, good opportunities do come up. Health wise, there are only five characters that she can't three shot from full health. If they have already taken at least 20 points of damage, the majority go down in two. There are lots of counter abilities, but people often aren't ready for it.
In pro play there is never a time when a player is a not high priority to be killed. Man advantage is so high, its always worth killing the player. Zarya shields are very low gain for the loss of the player.
Wrel Thank you for the numbers! I was under the impression that the Zarya shield was invulnerable and could not figure out why shooting shielded low health people was so important. Appreciate the clarification!
Frag = Kill
Then why not just say kill? Same effort but it just makes you sound stupid
I believe the term frag has some US military history, it's not a video game thing
+Jeremy Jones no it just goes back to quake era
"the word frag makes you sound stupid"
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Yeah idk how that'd make you sound stupid either
a big part of this is that the game itself does not tell you that the barrier has HP at all, when i started playing this game i assumed it had infinate since it didnt diplay an HP number..
Good point. Maybe it should crack like Rein and Winston's barriers? -F
great idea. It should indeed (and that's someone who plays tons of Zarya saying that) : the idea of barriers cracking (like Winston's) is to give a visual indicator to help poorly coordinated teams keep focusing a severely damaged barrier. Same should apply for Zarya's imho
It's for 2 seconds, perhaps it should have a fading away effect to see how long it will last, as cracking would probably not be visually recognized by most players before the barrier was gone anyway.
Damnit Freedo. I mean, your not wrong, sometimes its good to focus down a Zarya shield, but a bunch of people that only kind of understand this are going to see this video and then go into my comp games and just start randomly shooting Zarya shields at all the wrong times, so that Zarya will give me a hard time with her DPS.
There are some games I played where people are so paranoid with zarya shields. Like when its almost a team kill and the only one left is zarya at less than 50% hp and she pops her shield. Everyone suddenly stops shooting her. Like wtf. Do you guys not know that her shield has a cap?
Blizzard should really start adding more detailed descriptions on heroes if thats the case. Like how much damage does 1 pellet from reapers shotgun do. I dont even think people read hero details.
The shields specific health is 200hp, in case you were wondering, if you have 2 or more people vs one enemy with a barrier, odds are that you will be able to confirm the kill on a low hp target.
I used to think the same (invulnerable shields) back when I first played Zar. Imagine my surprise when I tried to absorb a full Pharah ult.
yeah... there's no information so I had to look this up, and I wish the game would tell so I wouldn't have to... Also there's no training mode like street fighter which tells you how much damage specific moves deal and everything like that so I have no other real way of knowing.
Who else has no damn clue what "frags" mean?
its only you m8
;(
Frag means elimination/killing blow lol, it's weird
it means kill. it's from quake kiddo
Actually I'm 11 :/ am I excused? AlgaeEater08
I thought this was obvious, but TL;DR you should shoot Zarya's shields when you can kill whoever is in it. The gain zarya gets is negated by killing her or killing whoever the shield is on. Zarya at 50% doesn't make up for killing a support or a dps, and if you kill her the charge doesn't matter.
Zarya with 0 HP and 100 percent charge is less of a threat than a zarya with 0 charge and 100 hp.
+taitaisanchez 100% hp*
But if you kill a dps by burning through the shield then Zarya becomes the dps
CKG Right. So she gains some damage, but at the cost of losing a dps. So it's still a net gain.
Tehstool But if the Zarya us currently engaged in battle, particularly with you, it'll be bad and your team will probably loose a player in return. And if you don't manage to kill the dps because you might get melted by Zarya because you shot her shields, then you didn't help anyone. Please don't take me as rude, this is just my view on things.
This is my number 1 frustration in Overwatch. To reiterate;
If shes dead she has 0 power. Zarya only has 600hp (200h, 200s, 200b) and no escapes or heals above that. If you focus her, she's squishier than Hog.
Also, if she has full power she doesn't get more if you hit the shield. Good to keep in mind.
I figured out a long time ago that it is fine to melt Zarya shield if you are confident in confirming the Zarya kill but never thought about when confirming her team mates deaths. Nice insight.
As a Zarya main, I save many valuable lives with a shield that probably should have been shot through, I'm glad you are spreading this knowledge, it'll help me maintain higher charge ;)
Yeee boi. I have to get this average energy up. Apparently my 35% average is top 5%, which is kind of sad, but now I'm gonna have 60% average, and be the number 1 Zarya in the world lol
maybe it will but if your teammates are dead that doesnt help
+R4553 CR that's true
Andrew_the_pro At first i thought you had your sensitivity really low, and then i realized you're playing on PS4 lol. Looked like everyone had really slow reaction times or something but nah it's just that turning speed, but good job, that was really good gameplay. You should make a Zarya guide if you haven't already, the world could always use more Zaryas
+Francisco rodriguez 35% is top 5??Jesus christ people have no idea how to soak. I get around 57-60 in my better games, and 45-50 in my worse.
When you see the rein fire striking when youre about to engage, soak it with shield. free 50 energy. Same if you see: Someone getting hooked, someone from your team ulting, getting nano boosted, winston jumping in etc.
Not only are you removing discord from them, but if hes getting focused down (like discord targets usually) you will gain tons of energy due to the inconsistensy of the damage type and adding extra 200hp for him.
I like playing healer, because I can choose who lives and dies :D
You only choose who lives.
Connor C Don't get healed can't live, I pick who lives and dies ^o^
But can they tell your story?
ArkVeil Fuck story I have your life in my hands :3
Epso RKS Nah, good players don't rely on a healer to live. You decide the fate of the unprepared.
The issue is at my level people chase down low health players in the shield, over extend and get fragged themselves. in that case the enemy gains more than we lose. There is a good time to shoot it, just not at the start of a team foght
Right, I didn't take time to say that, but yes, definitely don't poke at range into her shields. -F
I always shoot through Zarya's shield with Mei. Mei does not give her too much charge as her freezing beam does so little damage, but having the beam continuously focusing her can give you a couple of tenths of freezing compared vs you reacting to Zarya's shield wearing out and then start freezing her.
Shoot a Zarya shield if you are absolutely certain that you can deal over 200 damage to it in two seconds, or over 400 damage to it in two seconds if it's someone else Zarya shielded. Otherwise just wait it out. It's not worth giving her extra charge unless you can actually break the shield in those two seconds and then deal the damage afterward to get the kill. The fact that you didn't mention that part makes it sound like you just want people to shoot you more and give you extra charge.
It's only 200 if she shields a teammate, just like it is only 200 if she shields herself.
Obviously you wouldn't be shooting a shielded zarya when you're running around solo, he also stated that the goal is to burn through it and kill her.
I too believed that one should never fire at Zarya's shields at some point, but that was because I didn't know that her shields can only absorb 200 damage.
I play Zarya a shit ton, over 30 hours on her, and popping shields on big target allies and or myself when I'm in a pinch is the hallmark of utilizing her well. A good Zarya is going to get charge no matter what, but lemme tell you guys something:
If 2 people are on me, the shield goes down REALLY quickly and she becomes less of a problem, especially Offense heroes. I can sustain over a long period, but quick burst damage from discord, Reaper or McCree headshots and I'm toast
TL;DW: You should shoot through a Zarya bubble if you can still get the kill afterwards.
Discovered this on my own with Tracer because I'm relentless, I found that it goes away much quicker when I shoot it as opposed to when I don't.
Zarya is an example of a hero who was likely hard to categorize and perhaps MIS-categorized as a tank. While she can sustain extended firefights, she crumbles faster than any tank under focus. Her barriers are great for surviving clutch burst damage, but having to save allies with them to get anywhere near her true damage potential makes her infinitely more situational than other tanks, often relegating her to an off-tank role. the fact that she lacks the easy targeting of other tanks also makes her much harder to use in a close-range brawl, even though it makes her decent at longer range sieges. Her ultimate is also the least impactful on it's own, being unable to kill outright like D.va, actually stun like Reinhardt, move people any real distance like Winston, or a combination like Roadhog. She's more dependent on team followup than any other tank and her actual tankiness comes in short bursts, making her much harder to use effectively, more difficult to fit in team comps and much easier to focus down, since she lacks on-demand healing, armor or sheer HP of other tanks.
I think you're severely under-representing just how much value Zarya gets from you shooting her shields. It's easy to say it's "not a big deal" until she's at full charge shredding right through your D.Va in the blink of an eye. It's obviously situational but as a Zarya player I don't stress it at all to see shields get broken, hell I might even say a teammate's life is worth getting 100% charge as you already know that life is going to be made up for from at least one on the enemy team.
No amount of charge value can outweigh man-advantage from a frag, unless you're playing against players worse than you. -F
You can't just say such an absolute. Overwatch is a game of different situations, each one needing to be dealt with differently. What if the charge you gain allows you to get ult and lets you kill 3+ people with that ult? Then was it worth the teammate life who, at this point, is probably back shooting at the enemy team anyways?
Honestly I've never seen this as a problem. As a rank 78 player, it's pretty well known that Zarya's shield has a cap and she will often become the most targeted person on her team simply due to the fact that her one true counter is just to kill her first, especially when she is glowing like a christmas tree.
If you're focus-firing Zarya, a good Zarya can almost always break LoS and regen shields a bit, which is exactly how she does her job as a tank. Firing purposefully into her shields is almost never objectively better than switching targets for a second or two then switching right back.
a good zarya cannot just break los whenever she wants, she doesn't even have a movement ability. of course i'm sure there are exceptions to this rule like if your team mate is playing torbjorn and they're just sitting on their turret anyway, if you get full charge from that then it's probably value for you. But if a dps dies then it doesn't matter how much damage you get from it, your team dps will most likely be lower. if a support dies then your sustain is gone and again, you damage wont matter if you all die in 10 seconds.
I play a lot of Roadhog and always shoot her shield cause I'm not intimidated by her DPS and usually show dominance by pushing her hard and solo ulting her.
This
Dafaq
you still have teamates
"dominance" lol.
+GearDoctor that made me crack up😂😂
So the shield basically goes away if you focus fire on it? Thought the shield would stay for its whole duration no matter what
No, they last 2 seconds and absorb infinite (we assume) damage. All damage done to her shields adds to her weapon charge which does more damage at higher charge, thus the fallacy people have about not shooting the shields EVER. This video explains why you SHOULD shoot the shields, but only in certain situations: such as a low health enemy or an enemy your team is planning to burn down.
+Jesse Wiggers so the only reason you should shoot the shield in said situations would be that otherwise you might not be quick enough to kill the target before it escapes. You could actually stay close to your target and shoot it as soon as the shield expires to make sure it doesnt escapes... Seems more logical to me
the shield stays up for either 2 seconds or if i remember correctly 200 damage whichwver is first
+willhwiltjr oooook, that's what i wanted to know, thank you man, now i get it lol
MrDenmellen
you could, but the risk could be that you A) didn't see when the shield was placed, thus you won't know the timing or B) you could still be a few bullets off from killing them outright if you hadn't been already firing just before the shield's protection wears off. For the most part, it's up to the player when to shoot: Frito made a decent point about Zarya's charge in the video: it decays at a reasonable rate, and it's reset to 0 if she dies, so it's all situational in the end.
Don't shoot unless you can kill what's inside.
For example, if you hook a Tank at full health with Roadhog and he gets shielded while you carry him over; Don't pull the trigger.
The Tank won't die and can probably run away or protect himself before you shoot your second blast. All you'd do, is charge Zarya's Power and do nothing.
I always just shoot right through her shield as bastion. They think they're about to get a bunch of free energy only to get mowed down before they can duck back into cover.
To me, it just depends if you can do more than 200 damage in the two seconds, and if you can kill the target immediately after.
Hey! Don't tell them the secret!
generally don't shoot it if you can't do 200 damage in less than 2 seconds since that's 2 seconds you could be doing damage to someone else which actually can take damage and help but if three people focus it and take it down in half a second then by all means go for it that's 1.5 seconds you can now be doing damage to someone else.
I always shoot a Zarya's shield if it's on the Zarya herself, because I can always just keep firing away at the damage source the shields affect. Typically don't shoot the shields if it's not on a Zarya and if the Zarya isn't close enough for me to focus her down.
aw damn there goes my zarya main
As someone who plays a decent amount of bastion when I'm not playing a support or pharah, I get irritated when people call me stupid for melting someone who has been shielded.
Like bruh, I can go through their shield and entire health pool in less time than it would take for the shield to go away on its own, so why wait? Unless Zarya has a Rein or I'm positioned poorly so that she can fling orbs at me from cover, she still can't face a bastion with high energy and come out on top.
Genji is the only exception I run into often; he can just wait till the shield pops and deflect, forcing me to stop shooting at him before he dashes into cover. THAT would be free Zarya energy. Killing a mercy as she flies towards the front, completely ignoring the shield is not.
"Because it goes down to 0 and then you have to run from spawn for 10 years"
Favorite line of the day
A lot of the time you did unnecessarily shoot the Zara shield and didn't score a kill.
Nvm you did acknowledge that.
Thanks for this one, I came to the same conclusions playing and watching matches, and I've been trying to spread the word.
Thank you for this. Very informative, I did not know this. I've been getting mad at myself for shooting Zarya's shield. No more.
Yeah, I agree. If you totally have the DPS just brute force blow through her shields and take her down. A not dead Zarya in the long run can be dangerous.
Technically it's better to wait for the shield when she is the last alive because she would be staggered. Sometimes I will shoot it if I'm a strong dps sometimes because I know I can burst them down
As Roadhog, you should shoot the shield.
1. Hook Zarya
2. Shoot Zarya
3. Break barrier
4. Shoot Zarya again
Zarya is dead (unless she got a Pocket heal of coarse.)
not gonna lie, thought that that shield was just a 2 sec invulnerable shield, didn't realise it had a damage cap
Good information, there's no guide on Zarya in the game so this is much appreciated
Great Vid. I knew that there were times it was good to attack through her shield, but I didn't have an understanding as when.
Not sure about this one tho, because sure in pro play you can just focus fire or play around the zarya..in soloQ however you probably wont be able to burn the shield before it falls off anyway in most situations. And i feel extremly strong with 100 energy and unlike you said, i feel totally able to carry the fight on my dps alone.
hey you should go into character controls and scroll down on to Zarya and turn on allied health bars so you can dole out shields to lower health people, it can save lives
Okay... but fallacy isn't the word bro.
Thanks for the quality video. This is gonna really help me in the upcoming season.
Wait, I don't know if I missed this in the video so you may have already addressed it, but is it possible to break a Zarya shield if you do enough damage to it? Or is focus firing shielded squishies a matter of making sure the target is quickly killed right after the shield expires on it's own?
I'm so mad I didn't know of zaryas passive ability the first 6 months of me playing Overwatch
Don't shoot them. Making them come down a moment faster isn't worth the Energy that it gives Zarya - her kit is built around it.
I've never played Zarya before...
I've never played Overwatch before.
+Lachlan Still I've never played before
I've never before
I've never
+BOBST01 T. Do it
it's funny how people seem to know to focus me down with shields when I'm playing Zarya ... but my team: "nah, she's invincible, bro" :/
ah, sugarplumb ... I probably just suck :D
"You noob why did you shoot through Zarya's shield?"
did these people miss the fact that she died shortly after for most of these?
What i hate is the fact that my teammates don't know what the shield does..
it also depends on how good the zarya is. if she is easily the best player in the whole match then its a worse idea to shoot her shield than if she was easily the worst player in the match
killing her is still a good idea though, regardless of how good she is
Furthermore, a good Zarya still cannot take on 4, 5, or 6 people at once. That's just too much DPS.
Well, graviton surge without a dva or rein and she is at 100 charge can still take out a big chunk of your team.
But you required you ultimate, and then we should consider everyone else's ultimate. If they have a Mercy in the bubble and you weren't paying attention (or she flew out cuz an ally wasn't caught)? Everyone's Revived. Zenyatta and Lucio's ultimates will get in the way as well.
There is also a good number of character who can just "leave" the bubble, including Reinhart, who can charge at you and prevent you from bothering the team (but he's not there cuz luck, right?); Reaper, who can wraith out of there and then try to punish you if you protected yourself during the ultimate;
Graviton Surge is also the slowest charging ultimate in the game, so I somewhat doubt that even a good Zarya still cannot take on a 4+ by herself even with her ultimate.
It's not a fallacy. Shooting her shields positively impacts the enemy team. Try not to shoot them. If you can survive and not shoot them, do that.
Then they get away and that player survives heal, and hell who knows Q (if they have it). Frag will always be worth more than a little bit of damage the character gets.
Epso RKS Obviously you have to be careful if the player is close to death and there is an enemy healer nearby, but acting like that's the case in most situations is not accurate.
RevucumberTechUSA Neither is completely ignoring it. Which does make it a fallacy.
+Epso RKS using absolutes is what makes things false such as the fallacy youve used that a frag is always worth more than the charge up heres an example from a recent game where i was zarya. enemys reaper took down my shields so i popped my bubble to survive and my team focused him till he wraithed at which point i shielded our 25 hp mei from a roadhog hook combo at which point i had full charge and a q i pop my q as the reaper is coming back from wraith form and get a triple kill of their healers and reaper and we lost a mei then we focused roadhog and dva down and capped the point. if there roadhog hadnt been fraghappy and had some s.a. there lucio couldve gotten his beatdrop off and saved his team because i wouldnt have been able to melt him quick ennough had i not been at 80 charge they literally traded 1 for 5 in that situation.
willhwiltjr A frag is always worth more than charge up. If a team can't communicate well and you win that makes it untrue? Nah, a frag is worth more than some charge up, but its situational when it comes down to it.
Because we all know that Freedo is absolutely perfect at overwatch and never can do any wrong ever, therefore he's always right and no one can ever criticize him
I feel that when youre playing bastion no matter if you are shooting her shield you can still get that frag....
This whole video seems like it should be common sense. The only time I call for teammates not to shoot zarya shields is when its a bad zarya fishing for charge. You know the type of Zarya that bubbles a teammate as they peek, not actually saving their life or benefiting them in any way but maybe they get 15-20 extra charge off of it? Yeah, that kind.
If you're breaking the shield to confirm the kill, who gives a shit if she gets charge? She's dead.
Whoever thinks you should avoid shooting a shield at all costs is a damned fool. Don't feed her charge unnecessarily, but if there is a kill opportunity, shoot through it. It also only absorbs 200 damage, so... yeah. Worst case you full charge Zarya, best case you kill the person you're after and the enemy team is down a player in the fight.
If you're on my team and you're a random, you shoot her shields just enough to keep her at about 137% charge for the entire round then die right before you kill her so when I come around a corner, I find her fully charged EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
Well its hard to not shoot her when she jumps in front of someone you are shooting or when shes gunning you down it leaves you defenseless
This is also why when I play zarya, I suck. I always think I'm invincible when my power is 100 or my shield is up
Yep, once that shield disappears, she may be stronger, but she is no harder to kill.
Thank you for making you channel about critical thinking and guides, not click bait and controversy.
Shields can absorb 200hp... You're going to waste time shooting someone with a shield. You start shooting when you know the shield is about to go down but not during the whole shield that's just stupid. You're giving the Zarya charge and doing nothing in return if you shoot during a full shield cycle.
TLDR:
Zarya shield pops, wait one second, then fire.
Focus fire blows through 200 quickly. And she loses charge on death so it's not worth the risk if you're about to kill her.
Why "frag"? As in fragmentation? Am I missing something with this abbreviation?
you do realize that a good Zarya gets charge by damage that they see coming at people already they don't just throw shields up and pray
I love your guy's videos. So many people get angry and upset and stuff and it's funny tbh. You all have been in the FPS for years understandably and I think everyone can take some knowledge from any video imo
tldw: only shoot her barrier if you're certain you're capable of getting the kill on her.
I agree and disagree. Shredding shields works when theyre overextended and out of position. Just trying to do it in a teamfight is a pretty bad idea, because thats goign to translate into Zarya's damage, which is actually fairly strong at 100 charge. Also, Spending that time shredding the shield is time you are not spending on other enemy players. If shes or someone else is overextended, go for it. Shred that shit cause they cant beat you. But in an even team fight, its better to be a bit wary and wait for them to burn it or use it poorly. Cause to be frank, sinking that one kill may doom you if youre spending time trying to kill soldier 76 while Zarya ults and phara or junkrat follow up ult.
So in a nutshell: focus fire, shoot the guy; trash damage, don't shoot shields.
according to my teammates in competitive play the best time to shoot her shields is apparently ALL THE FUCKING TIME
I've mained Zarya since the free weekend before release. She's not a DPS hero.
lol confirm that frag. calling everything a fallacy...
I don't understand him. It's not a fallacy.
Confirming a frag doesn't mean you have to shoot the shielded target for the full duration of the shield, wait a second then start shooting. This could be the difference between zarya getting 50% and 100% charge, which is just massive.
The shield only has 200hp, compared to Reinhardts 2000 and winston's 800. When having enough dps, you can just break her shield, and kill her before those 2 seconds would've even ended. In that 2 second period a lot could happen and killing her right then, might prevent her putting a barrier on an ulting pharah, genji, mercy, lucio. Which can cause your team to be wiped out. A zarya's dps is never a real threat, it's what a zarya needs to be viable in the first place, the real threat is her shields.
yeah but come on. there is a context for everything. you shoot it you get punished by an ulti and some alt fire from zarya. why would we do that if that was her plan? if she uses shield then focus another target who doesn't have shield. it's just that simple.
I really dislike this channel because it's trying too hard to feel superior to everyone else and trying to tell people how to play the game while making up new terms, using fallacy for every single thing they deemed "wrong", and other bullshit. it just comes off as snobby. overwatch central is just better than this channel.
These are the type of people who think poking (sorry im not calling it trash damage that's just plain stupid.) is not necessary, yet shooting a zarya shield is? what? lmao. alright.
That is bullsht actualy :D If you have hitscan weapon dont shoot at all. Because it hit instantly. If you have projectile weapon you can wait some but not until shield end. Very close to shield and start to shoot so when shield end your projectile hit that enemy
"And then she has to run back from spawn for ten years."
As a Zarya main, listen to what he's saying. I hate it when people shoot my shields. It's the worst! The downfall of Zarya! Do it!
It's like when you're playing Spy in TF2 and people turn their back to you! SMH 😤
+Jackson Cox l can't tell if this is sarcasm or if you're getting bursted down super quickly.... Ah, the harsh world of the internet.
+Pigousaur That's a way some classes, like Engie or Heavy, bait you in. They sit there, wait for decloak or time it, and turn around. Hope you like the taste of lead, l don't.
Dat enemy zarya just ults randomly without any communication for a follow up offense ult?
If only everyone watched these videos.
I often just have that group of people who just gladly spams random shots to her shields but never finishes her off.
(Especially with Junkrat, I know it might be hard to aim your shots but can someone please just kill the full boosted Zarya after that.)
If I play a tank, I often pick Dva, and yeah it is pretty annoying to see that for the whole match, the enemy Zarya is alive all the time and fully boosted. I can't exactly do anything about it since my mech is being melted away right after she sees me, which will have to make me change since obviously everyone else is too good for that and I am feeling a little tiny bit useless when their Zarya has me on her target everytime that I come back. And after I've changed I just get blamed that we lost because I changed the tank. Thanks!
So just a friendly reminder, that Zarya is a killable hero too, you don't need to be afraid to shoot her.
Same thing often goes to Genji, people seem to be afraid to shoot him when he uses his ultimate.
Thank you for making this video, now i'm always at 100% destroying people everytime i play zarya
2:02 well yeah, you're D. Va and you were shooting him from a pretty long distance away. You didn't give her much power anyway. Now, if you were reaper, nd close up, it would've better to wait for the shield to go down
I'd say this is a better rule of thumb than not to shoot it at all, by far
Another insightful video, keep up the great content bro!
HOW DID NO ONE KNOW. THIS!!!!!!!!!
i use that mentality sometime just smash it and take her down i usually dont but im a tracer main so i usually am hassling her ive got gameplay on my channel of how i deal with her. just depends on the zarya and her team also if shes protected the the charge will be effective but thats probably more in comp
Does the shield not make the person invulnerable? What's the point in shooting the shield eitherway?
If she dies she loses the charge anyway though. What does the walk back have to do with that? I agree with you overall, but that made no sense
This video would make a lot more sense if you quote the amount of damage Zarya's shield can take. If someone thinks its a 2 sec invuln none of your advice makes sense unfortunately.
Hmm, why should I focus on Zarya's shield to frag her?
Because that's how the pros do it
Isn't it obvious? besides it's easier to do with 2 or 3 teammates. even a Reaper will have a hard time solo killing a Zarya, especially when you have her team mates focusing on you. it's just unavoidable... he pretty much says why
It's not fast enough to shoot after the barrier goes down.
I feel like the people that needs this video to explain the reasoninga behind shooting through zarya's shield at crucial moments is lacking common sense
"makes her slightly more like dps"that's cute.
Anyone feel like Zarya's top damage should be nerfed? I mean dealing 190 damage per second at max charge is absolutely ridiculous.
And I agree with the video. I was always annoyed when people said to counter Zarya by not shooting her. I mean, if two people focus her, she's dead really quick, shield or not. Zarya is easy to kill, like really easy to kill. Just make sure mercy or other big healers are dead before burning through a Zarya and her shield. Because if lucio ults while zarya has 100% charge, that 190 dps is gonna melt your team in no time at all.
Don't touch my baby! Her shields have a large ass cool down anyway, so it is incredibly hard to maintain a high charge.
Er, no.
How are you going to say she's easy to kill when focused and then ask for a damage nerf? Properly placing your barriers over yourself and teammates shouldn't be punished by giving her less DPS. Plus her high energy level decreases rapidly (as Freedo explained, 2 points per second) enough that if you aren't feeding her barrier she shouldn't be a problem.
Play against a skill rating 80+ zarya and tell me how easy of a kill it is, when she's fully charged
Why do they call kills frags a kill is a kill. A frag is a grenade...
That reaper went into wraith form and instead of going into your mech you try to shoot him. reported
does zarya shield block damage? does it have a certain amount of hp it can block? or does damage go through zarya bubble i'm so confused
GameGatsby It blocks damage, and the damage it blocks makes Zarya stronger. It can only take 200 to before it bursts.
Zarya is the only Hero that has to take ten years to get out of Spawn. #FreedoIsNeverWrong
The problem with copying the Pro's is that 99.9% of people aren't pro.