Optima batteries keeping my truck down
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Optima battery, this is my final attempt to reach you. Check your email. It would have been great to make a video about how you stand behind your products for the average person. #optimabatteries #carbattery #gelbattery #redtopbattery #narrowayhomestead #homesteadtoktok #offgridlife
Pro tip: if you ever buy Optima, buy them from Advance Auto, in person, and photocopy the receipt to keep one copy in the glove compartment & another in your records. Their policy is to honor warranty on the spot and pro rate it if the date on sticker has passed, meaning you might save $100 even if its "out of date"
The Photocopy is important though because their receipt paper is thermal, it will be blank in just a couple months in the summer heat if left in your vehicle. No matter where you are in the country, if your battery craps out and there is an Advanced Auto (now owns carquest) they can do the swap in just minutes.
I worked there for several years, was almost fired because I spent nearly an hour trying to find the prorate on 2 optima blue top batteries, which are very expensive, but to my surprise the customer wrote a 3 page letter and sent one copy to store managers and another to corporate. Turns out the guy owns a small fleet of fishing boats and he opened a commercial account with us following my encounter simply because I took the time to save him nearly $200 by finding the original transaction in another state.
That's where I got. Mine AT DID the same as you have no problems wit it or them.
Or get DieHard from them. I work for a company that's partnered with them, so I get discounts, and they always give me an invoice. Advanced Auto is also very very good with their warranties, and have never tried to beat around the bush. I remember when I bought an expansion tank, I forgot the lid at home and I told them to keep the lid since I forgot it, and they were willing to do that. Truly a wonderful place
@@a_true_generic_gamer1104Diehard is absolutely the way to go
Good advice.
Thank you for being one of the few willing to think outside the box. You guys are gold.
Noted: Don't but Optima. Thanks for letting us all know that, Optima.
Never had a problem with optima.
@@lemonaid8678When's the last time you changed the battery? They changed where and how they manufacture them some time ago, defects have skyrocketed since
@@EnbyOccultist I have 138 motorized equipment under my supervision, the oldest optima battery still in use in one is from 2015, I’ve had a few issues with newer ones but never had a problem getting them replaced under warranty.
@NostalgicOccultist their Chinese owned now I believe or if not that's the worst manufacturers I've ever seen in my life
@@28cthedestroyer nope, Johnson Controls owns it and the manufacturer location is in Mexico.
Take it back to the place of purchase if you can. Might have better luck.
States it on the battery too!
That's the same thing LG did to me over a phone. I swore I would never buy another LG product again. And I just so happen to be in the market for a washer and dryer. LG got knocked off the list of potential brands to buy.
I understand your feelings about that. Although LG Laundry products are quite good. No matter what you do, though, never buy a Samsung appliance of any type. They all fall apart rapidly.
There are appliance repair guys on youtube telling us what to buy and what not to and why. Do your homework!
Thank you for the heads up & upload of your vid. I remember a time when they said "Optima" batteries were the best. My how times change.
Before the factory moved to Mexico
The batteries are still pretty good as far as i know..customer swrvuce is crap.
@@3029dzexactly. Quality is shit now.
They moved away from pure lead in there batteries when they out-sourced.
Doesn't anyone watch Scotty Kilmer. He talked about all this maybe four years ago. The comments also were informative .
One of my redtops lasted 11 years, when I had an issue they told me to drop the battery on the ground several times and charge it again, that surprisingly worked
Wait what
It's a way (not the way we do it normally) to get the sulphate off the lead plates, just like descaling a kettle in a way
I'd look into desulfators -- stand-alone desulfators or chargers/desulfators -- and very likely avoid/prevent serious (or any) sulfation issues up front. I use them on my batteries (since 2010?).
-- BR
I bought my 2 cranking batteries for my 1999 Ford e350 7.3L ambulance 850cc from Walmart, 1 went bad with in 4 months, just went to Walmart and they gave me a new one on the spot. 👍💯🚑
WallyMartIsNotGood.Took a bad battery that lost charge in about 3 days of sitting and they tested it good. I went to the manager and everyone said we trust the battery tester. I told them its not fair that you fully charge it then quickly load test it covering up the slow discharge problem.
@@ActivateMission2ThisTimelinenever had that problem. The Walmart I go to just says ok here’s another one have a good day.
@@Billy28376 Exactly... 👍
Go to a Walmart without an auto center. They won't even test it
That’s the problem I had with Wally batteries though, had to keep replacing them. The NAPA legend are made by DEKA in USA.
I always get 7+ yrs from the 5 yr batteries in my diesel.
Wally is cheap and convenient, but the batteries don’t last, the tires are crap. I just don’t use their stuff any more.
Fishing tackle is ok…
I had a slightly better time with Optima. Instead of giving me the run around and ignoring me, I called them after not getting a response to my email; they just straight up told me they weren't going to cover the battery under warranty. I hope they're glad they saved the money they saved on not replacing the battery, since it ensured I will never buy another one and I'll tell anyone who wants to buy a battery not to get one of theirs.
You should have returned it to them , through their window.
I quit using optima years ago for the same reason. I use odyssey batteries and don't have problems anymore and there warranty is awesome
Handy information to have, I was *about* to buy two new Optimas!
If you were going to buy it through advanced Auto the stores honor the warranty on the spot. Check the to comment on the original thread an employee posted.
Next time. Buy optima through a store. Like autozone. They uphold the warranty and have the time to fight them
Just don't buy optima. They are over priced junk since they got bought out.
Your situation might be different, but when I'm returning a battery I take it back to the store where I got it.
If there's one thing I've learned in years of dealing with batteries of various types of equipment, get an Interstate. Interstate batteries are expensive but they last, and last very very well
Eh, get Deka instead of interstate. Interstate is more of a marketing company than anything, they don't manufacture their own.
@@avoton6020 Very true, Johnson Controls sold Interstate about 5 years ago now and Interstate is a builder by proxy situation with batteries coming from all over. (They were bought out by the formerly bankrupt Exide Corp, or their parent corporation of Exide, a brand that failed roughly 10 years prior as their own brand, losing out to Interstate and Deka. The general consensus was that Exide went bankrupt to avoid the cleanup of the 100+ year site in PA, now they come back and buy Interstate). Unfortunately though they also have and maintain contracts with various OEM's and Walmart. Do a search on Clarios, Interstate, Exide, AC Delco, etc, I also believe that Ford is also again using batteries from Clarios, as is Stalantis in the US.
Deka is made by East Penn near Reading, PA, its the same company its always been. Deka, Federal, Die Hard, Duracell, Some Duralast and for a while some (regional) Walmart MAXX batteries looked to be made by East Penn. I believe those built by East Penn/Deka, have a part number that starts with 'EP'.
Personally, I've had the best luck with the East Penn batteries overall but they tend to be pricier than other brands.
I haven't seen any EP batteries at Walmart here in a while now, so maybe the EP built batteries were just in the interim while Interstate changed hands and moved manufacturing to other facilities?
I just use Walmart batteries in everything now. I used to use optima but I was replacing them every couple years even though I use a battery tender when it’s cold. My Walmart batteries last 3-5 years and are much cheaper.
Walmart batteries I believe are made by Johnson controls the same as a bunch of name brand batteries. There's actually only a couple of manufacturers of batteries in the United States and everything is just rebranded.
@@oliver_klozoff Thank goodness for Deka!
@@avoton6020 absolutely, but they are made by east Penn. Same as AutoZone duralast, napa legend, and O'Riley's super start. They are all the same. Walmart and die hard are different as they are made by clarios which used to be Johnson controls and are mostly in China now, and interstate which is made by exide. The wide selection we seem to have is all an illusion.
Before I leave, I want to hear this mans voice on public radio, preferably am.
Wee told him for years now. I think he likes working for himself! But he could make a radio channel ❤
Thanks for the tip! I just had to replace the battery in my truck and I decided to go with a different battery after watching your video Optima batteries.
I had the same problem with them about 2 years ago. I swapped to a cheap-o auto zone and haven't had a single problem since.
Yeap I am in the market for new battery for my 2012 GMC Truck that is just a work truck for me. I will definitely be shopping for something other than an Optima. These companies don’t think social media matters but it is a great way to share information. Thanks
I've had X2 AGM for 4 years now. It's handled 100+ Temps and 20 below without issues. Didn't even hesitate to start in the dead of winter, ever! Left my lights on for an entire day, and she still had enough to crank over easily.
Optima battery is probably the best I've ever used but yeah I never got anywhere with a warranty from them but only have had one bad battery out of 4 I've had
Interstate Batteries with a 5 year warranty lasted my hubby’s 5.4L Dodge 2500 Cummins diesel 7 years. They no longer make the same but the new ones are expected to go 5 without a problem. We swear by Interstate.
It was educational four years ago when Scotty Kilmer did a video about mainly optima batteries. He was furious, his arms were really moving. The comments section was good too .
And now i remember that project farm did a video comparing various new batteries . Optima the most expensive didn't score too well .
When someone has 1.37 million followers I suggest you keep good business relations.
It's almost like they don't want to give you the free stuff you're entitled to.
It's not free to him, he paid for a working batt and never received one.
@@FardtilUshid reading comprehension skills
@@FardtilUshidThe 'free stuff they're entitled to' half of the comment is meant to describe receiving a replacement item because warranty, it's not a promo freebie given as part of paid advertisement.
@@TheMetasora General comprehension skills. He paid for the warrantee; therefore a replacement would not be free, it would be no additional charge. It would only be free replacement if he hadn't paid for the warrantee.
The company itself might call it a free replacement, but it's not free.
@@TheMetasoralogic comprehension skills, just quit school kid , it's clearly not helpful
Interstate Batteries are my go to!!!
Optima used to be amazing number one battery brand but then I believe I got bought out many years ago and I had noticed the difference with longevity. I bought one of the ones way back and it lasted forever. The two I had after that went bad.
Thanks for the heads up. I bought optimas and returned them the next morn. They asked why and I told them they sucked... Napa auto understands.......
Thanks for alerting the rest of us to the inadequacy of Optima batteries and service. Maybe, as the saying goes, money talks.
Also, I appreciate the reminder to hang onto the original proof of purchase etc. Some of us just assume that other people are as trustworthy and decent as we are. The down side of projection...
Howdy! I use a 6.7 Cummings as a hotshot truck. I learned that the duel battery setup needs both batteries replaced at the same time. Both batteries need to be fresh and there's alot of schishters running good busines chains very poorly! We have a fleet and run O'Reilly's Automotive house batteries on all of the trucks in the fleet. Of course we've had issues over the years and O'Reilly's replaced all of them without question each and every time!
I've got an Optima redtop in my Sonoma from 2014 and it still works like a champ. I worked at Oreillys back in 2019 and the amount of yellow tops that died prematurely showed me the quality is not the same anymore. Still have good luck with Interstate batteries tho.
If you can find a dealer that carries them I like deka AGM batteries.
I like researching and learning about batteries as a hobby. One thing I'm super interested in is making my own lead acid alternative. Batteries are very expensive these days and the quality has drastically declined. It's not as easy as dropping in a lithium. However, there's one person on RUclips who combined a 10Ah lithium battery with some capacitors for the cranking power and it's been working flawlessly for 5 years.
Wow. Optima back in the would warranty any battery. I found one a yellowtop on the side of road once. Took it to Batteries Plus and got new one. No questions asked.
Always warrantied my redtops.
Shame to learn they aren't the same way anymore.
"Bad news is, I went with Optima."
Alright, nothing more needs to be said.
Like interstate battery and easy to get your hands on
optimas are good batteries. I too use the red tops because they have dual posts, GM side posts and top posts. I get ten years out of them easily. When new and good they sit idle at 12.8v the blue tops are 13.2v. The only trick with them is they need a higher voltage charge than standard batteries and charging systems quite often put out. Upper 13s to low 14v keeps them happy. Also optima makes their own charger and it can recondition the batteries a cell at a time and give them a second new life
I'm thinking this guys voice is the same one as the Motel Eight guy.... "we'll keep the light on for ya"😊
SteveGriffith, yes, that's Tom Bodett for Motel 6.
Im hearing the same lilt to his voice as the boss for the MASH 4077 camp . That's my only reference cos I not in America and don't watch TV these days.
@philip5940 his name is Tom Bodet. He's an announcer for motel 8. Always at the end of the commercial, he says, "we'll leave the light on for you."
Love the 6.5, i have 96' k3500 with a 6.5 high output with a tune, pmd relocated, new harmonic balancer and billet pulley.
I go to interstate batteries and buy a blem battery. Works the same but has a scratch or the handle is broke to carry with. But I paid 78 bucks for my f250 battery abs it works great
Interstate Batteries are awesome period I'm not sure about their warranty but I've got a couple of batteries that have been going for 8 years strong in 2 different vehicles one dump truck and one pick up and one in the boat to
From what I understand Optima was bought out by Johnson Controls. They immediately moved production to Mexico and reduced the quality of the internals. Optima’s are just any old battery just with a funky case.
I bought a battery the other day, it was less than half price of the one at Autozone.
I have found that the warehouse clubs have high quality batteries at great prices. Near me, Sam's Club carries Deka (branded as Duracell) and Costco carries Interstate.
Most of the time, it's worth the membership costs just to buy it from there. Sometimes they have internet specials on their memberships, the last time I got one for free.
I researched the heck out of this subject about 5 years ago when searching for the best agm battery. Optima was under fire even back then. I followed the advice of some folks who are smarter than I, and went to my local Batteries Plus Bulbs store. At that time (no idea if this is still true) they were carrying a rebranded battery from what most at the time considered the best battery available. I believe the maker was Northstar, but I could be wrong on that. Either way the manufacturer wanted 350 each for their batteries, but BPB was selling their rebranded batteries for 150 each on sale. I needed two as well for my 24v Cummins. Never had to deal with their warranty though thankfully, and they are still going strong. You simply cannot be expected to know what you don’t know….
I always recommend interstate batteries. Got one in my vw and it always starts and I live in somewhat cold weather. Takes longer to kill them as it does others imo
Cool a fellow 6.5 diesel owner I've had mine for a year cold starting bastard but I love that truck.
Optima used to be a great battery, although i havnt had to buy any batteries recently (because these older optimas are awesome) i will probably be switching whenever these go
I had one that kept twisting the center out of the flexplate so I had to learn a trick to change the flex plate more easily (some call it a flywheel) on an automatic. If you use two long bolts in the bottom holes that fit the thread and pull the other bolts out as well as the crossmember so it can slide the transsion back far enough to remove the bolts from the torque converter and then the bolts that hold the flex plate to the crank. Some times you have to shim the flex plate and once I figured that out it quit eating flex plates. By using the long bolts you don't have to take the transmission all the way out. Saves a lot of work! Just an idea for the future reference department that you hope you never need to use! Good luck with the battery company. I really enjoy your content with your 170 pound puppy and your 18 pound dog(just sounds funny) keep up the good work!
Sad,
I drove 3 of optimas top line batts...
Always happy with the performance...
Powered a sick sound system and a 3l Diesel...
Grz from Germany
I'm a master mechanic & have a fleet. I bought one years ago and it was crap back then. Tip of the day is:
"Buy batteries by weight. The heaviest one is the best.
I get my optima batteries from Amazon. And they used to be really good at no questions. Ask honoring the lifetime,warranty or whatever warranty it has. Now, now there's a few more questions and a few more back-and-forth. But not as bad as dealing directly with the optima company, apparently.. But that actually might change. Because I haven't with a battery issue since last year.
I completely understand both the strategy with the battery warranty and the changing conditions with that warranty! We used to buy a battery and use the warranty rules to get a new battery year after year, but the companies have caught up to us and are closing the loophole we have all enjoyed for years hahaha
I had. Very good luck with interatate battery anout a decade ago.
Make sure the pair of batteries is matched.
Watch out for harmonic balancer coming apart, replace before it comes apart.
Get PMD relocation kit with heat sink if it doesn't have one yet.
Do the manual wastegate mod, set it to 7psi
I got probably close to 700k miles
Love the battery disconnect ( master switch)
Since Optima quit manufacturing in the US they went to pot real quick, I've got a friend with two of the older ones that are still good today after at least fifteen years...
I gave up on optima , in anything, yrs ago when they changed from pure lead. I use NAPA legend AGM now and no issues. Plus they’re cheaper. The last pair I replaced in my diesel lasted 7yrs before starting to crank slowly when cold cold.
And if there were an issue, there’s a NAPA everywhere.
Well your persistence pays off.
That’s sucks because my last optima lasted 10 years so I just got a new one hope it lasts .
Thanks for the heads up
Interstate has always had great service with battery warranty. All you do is go back where you got it, and get a new one.
Thanks for letting everybody on the internet know that Optima is not a brand I will be purchasing in the future.
Interstate best batteries I have used.
It seems QC is suffering on everything
Hope you have better luck
Keep exposing corporate runaround of consumers !👍
I tried the Optima route in the early 2000's and sales guy sold me on them eventually. Lots of money for a battery that lasted about 8 months, several (7) batteries in total in all my vehicles and even my boat. Tried like hell to get them replaced after several months of back and forth I ended up just buying some other new batteries, I'll never go back to Optima.
True! ! True ! ! Something happened to us. Pricey battery.
I buy red tops. If I have a problem I take it back to where I got it from no problems. Just had a redtop short out after using it with a sound system for 8 years. I also run 2 red tops.
I heard the same thing that they went way downhill I have like a six-year-old Optima that's doing really well
ive seen people slam the battery on the ground and it coming back to life, its worth a shot lol
I had awful luck with optima red tops in my diesel Jeep
Optima batterys are real good batterys. I had one for 10 years. I've owned 4 total. As soon as the batteries go dead from non usage, or a drain...it's over.
There was a test a few years back in offroad magazine. They tested a bunch of batteries and walmart actually came in the best bang for buck fyi.
I've bought new batteries thru whichever towing company has the area contract for AAA Auto Club. I have them install the batteries as part of their roadside service. I have never had any problems with the new batteries. I can't imagine warranty nightmares with the Auto Club involved. The best $160. I spend every year, for that membership, no lie.
Roof! Have a 05F250 and swore of those optima a loooong time ago. Good luck!
Started seeing optima go downhill in like 2016. I warrantied out two to a customer in the span of 5 months. He ran a sound system, which is why he bout the optima.
Interstate batteries are the best my opinion
That's good to know. I'm about to have to buy a couple of batteries.
Back in the mid-2000’s Optima was the best. Red/Yellow/Blue tops would get you 7 or more years of even hard abuse. They were extremely expensive but worth it.
Then they moved their manufacturing from the US to Mexico and the quality went through the floor. When it took me 3 tries/trips to the auto parts store to get one good yellow top I quit using them in all my vehicles, trailers, ATVs and side by sides. Greed cost them my business and I’m sure many others.
dry cell optima are super sensitive to over charging and the warranty is based on the weight of the battery when it is returned because if you boil the goo out there is now way to put it back in.
I've only ever had luck with optimas in items with extremely simple electrical systems like tractors or generators where there is no chance ever of a slow drain.
sorry about your troubles brother.
Duralast golds are the best batteries I’ve ever seen and my family all uses them in every vehicle we own
Odyssey is the company that invented the tech for Optima batterys. Optima used to be a good battery until they sold out to I believe Mexico. They have been garbage ever since. Good news is odyssey still makes really great batteries and has good customer service. I use them and am completely happy, last a very long time.
If there’s a Walmart near by try their batteries.
I’m in Central TEXAS and my cousin is in Central Montana we’ve both tried them all in our extreme weather climates and Walmart has beat them all holding up to TEXAS heat and Montana cold. We both drive Chevys.
Central Texas here too, I agree with you. 👍💯
I worked at Autozone about 10 years ago and Realize that they were horrible batteries. Good for race cars lol but long-term daily use, junk. Figured out the best battery is the cheapest battery for myself. I usually get rural King specials nowadays. Most of them come from the same few Factories.
I enjoy your content . Have a good day buddy
My first and probably last optima battery I bought in maybe 2009 and I didn't get rid of it until about 2018 when I let somebody else have that vehicle. Told them they might need a new one but it still seemed to be going just fine. Probably helps that it only had to start a four-cylinder and I had swapped out the alternator to put out a little more amperage
I have a 1972 chevelle with a 454 big block and bought an optima when I first built the car. Fast forward 2 years and I left the battery in the car after running it in my non heated storage shed(at the time I ran it the snow was melting outside and it was a warm sunny day) it got cold again shortly afterwards and the winter weather carried on for another month or so. When I pulled the car out in the spring(roughly 2 months after I left the battery in there) the battery was dead and wouldn’t hold a charge. I took it in to Canadian Tire where I bought it with no receipt and the service desk employee was able to use my rewards card that I used when purchasing the battery for the warranty and gave me a new battery on the spot. That was last year I have nothing but good things to say about optima and their warranty program, though it seems like you have had bad luck just know there service isn’t like that 100% of the time
Try putting jump cables on it for a few mins then connect your battery charger. My charger won't recognize a completely dead battery. After I put cables on for a few mins and take off it gives it enough juice the charger detects it
Back in my blogging days I had a problem with a service company. At the first and last face to face meeting (after they refused to satisfy me over several phone calls), I started the conversation something like this:
First, as full disclosure and not meant to be a threat, I want you to know that I am an internet blogger with a good number of followers. I write about all manner of things, both good and beware.
The two people I was meeting with looked at each other. I smiled politely.
Short meeting. Mission accomplished, including a small good will compromise on my part.
😂
I’ve had terrible luck with optima. I had them in my 96 suburban with the 6.5 turbo diesel.
I’ve only bought vehicle batterie from a store so I’ve never had to worry about this fortunately
Glad I never wasted my $$$ on that crap. Preciate the info
Had a Car Audio shop and we used to sell Optima this was around 2009 and their quality has absolutely gone to shit. In the course of about two years we just quit selling them because we would get them back constantly. There's a company called Decca and they make batteries for dozens of different companies you might want to try them out. If you buy from them directly it's a lot cheaper and they're damn good batteries.
You keep at it Nate. Eventually you will get the responses that you need.
Optima use to be one of the top batteries out there!! It’s sad they have went down hill
Optima is currently owned by Johnson controls. Sadly they do a pass poor job when it comes to product quality. I use to warranty them alot. If you want an AGM battery, I would recommend a brand called Deka. They're made by penstate in Pennsylvania. I have seen they're bottom of the line 18 month warranty lead batteries last a decade.
Amp test the optima. There's something you could use it for. Secondary jumper for extra amps.
If I ever get a Jeep or Pickup, I'm gonna save up to get some Antigravity Batteries. It'll be expensive as hell but they'll hold a charge WAY longer then normal lead acid and even AGM or GEL.
As a diesel guy that specializes in 6.5s and 6.2s they run just fine on one battery until about 35 degrees
Just take it into wherever you bought it. They will do a warrantee as a distributor. Did that with motorcraft battery, returned to Ford and they did it under warranty. Unfortunately it's under the new warranty terms now and instead of 72 months, it's now 36 with no prorated after.
Man i hope you get your truck going soon. Thats a sweet truck. My favorite body style. Of all time. And i like them both but i def like the gmc better. I like the gmc front end grill ect. And the gmc usually got better interiors like power windows seats ect.. i have a 1500 rc swb 4x4 1990 cab n chasis redone everywhere else with 93 parts with a 95 or newer front end clip with aftermarket billlet grill. Its all custom aurora black with grey stripes down middle of top n cowl hood. I love my moon gauges there my favorites..altho i am a bigger fan of everything else but the gauges on the later years. Upgraded interior antilocks ect ect.. they should have kept the junky but cool lookin moon gauges thru out all the year renditions of this truck. It should've ben like a body style specific thing that was intergrated into the newer interiors and steyed with this body style thru the years. That would be cool. To me any way. I know a lot of people hate the moon gauges.
Goodluck my man on your truck. We need videos of it doing some work when she gets back to purring.. maybe it is by the time of this comment...
Please tell me what kind of knife Will packs?? The biggin on the fromt of his belt a lot... and what is yalls fav knife?? Yours and his?? Yall must have to use a good knife a lot.???
Thanks have a good one..
There gonna drag there feet till the warranty runs out...I had the same problem with them. People talk bad about Walmart batteries but I've had good luck with them with my truck. No probs no questions asked. I hate Walmart but there decent on some stuff
First optima battery lasted me 11 years, onto the 2nd one now with no issues