Reevaluating Cards for 2024 | Learning cEDH - Episode 22

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  • Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024

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  • @LemorasCards
    @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад +3

    What bit of tech are you testing? What cards do you think people are wrong on? Let us know down below!

    • @damo9961
      @damo9961 6 месяцев назад +1

      I saw Jitte in a list the other day and at first I was like nah. But the more I think about it....

  • @dcdids2011
    @dcdids2011 6 месяцев назад +15

    Im a simple man: I see Breena, I click the video. She was my first commander and still hold her very dear to my heart, even if i dont play her as the face anymore.

  • @cobblepott4169
    @cobblepott4169 6 месяцев назад +8

    I play Curse of Opulence frequently and by far the most overlooked aspect is that Gold doesn't need to tap (and thus works through Blind Obedience). Since you get a Gold whenever it triggers for anyone, your resource generation outpaces (or at least maintains parity) with your opponents. The card has done a lot of work for me in grindy games and is well worth the 1 mana investment.

    • @Eric_theMAD_King
      @Eric_theMAD_King 6 месяцев назад

      Love to hear it, I'll definitely test it in Korvold.

  • @damo9961
    @damo9961 6 месяцев назад +6

    I remember a poll on Reddit a few years ago on the Cedh subreddit, asking "What is one mistake most Cedh players make that you are also guilty of" (Not the exact wording but something like that) and people kept adding new options to the multichoice answers, and by the end, more than 80% had answered "Don't play enough lands".

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад

      I'm absolutely guilty of that one too haha

    • @hellproof2379
      @hellproof2379 6 месяцев назад

      I play rog si. 24 lands go brrrrrr

  • @varietygamer7859
    @varietygamer7859 6 месяцев назад +7

    never watch cedh content, but got your vids in my recommended and just like watching you talk about cards and decks.

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you! Glad you enjoy it!

  • @tcgmetaslayer4202
    @tcgmetaslayer4202 4 месяца назад +2

    Great vid! Your channel is definitely helpful! Keep it up!

  • @Johnny-bg2xx
    @Johnny-bg2xx 6 месяцев назад +3

    It would be sweet to get a new Korvold video with the new goblin suite.

  • @Droopymccool2323
    @Droopymccool2323 6 месяцев назад +1

    The katana sleeves are the best I have found, the dual mattes are a close second but the katanas are just so durable!

  • @raedien
    @raedien 6 месяцев назад +3

    Yes! Firestorm!
    And more people need to play Meltdown!

  • @chrisjamieson7620
    @chrisjamieson7620 6 месяцев назад +2

    KMC sleeves were always my favorite but not easy to find. Early 2000s were the best but I don't know if they are the same now days

  • @GoldSabertooth
    @GoldSabertooth 5 месяцев назад +1

    Dude, Eric! Thank you for rocking the Korvold!!! Lookin’ sharp homie. See you at PC3

  • @rogerrabbit132
    @rogerrabbit132 6 месяцев назад +3

    I've always wanted to build a Breena deck. She is a secretly fire commander to build around.

  • @Sandovian
    @Sandovian 6 месяцев назад +2

    Yyesssss! The Prismatic Defender sleeves

  • @jacobdavis9424
    @jacobdavis9424 6 месяцев назад +1

    Love when people try things out. Experimenting is how you find those hidden gems.
    Who cares if you're wrong. I keep trying to make sagas work.

  • @Joolenplus
    @Joolenplus 6 месяцев назад +5

    Tithe is crazy. When your top 16 pods are going on for like 1 to 3 fuckin hours, it is infact, not too slow.

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад +3

      it's so busted in games that are gonna take any amount of time. So many of the best cards in the format feed Tithe hard.

    • @bobthor9647
      @bobthor9647 6 месяцев назад

      Where are you playing that they don't have time limits ?

  • @kstandish42
    @kstandish42 6 месяцев назад +3

    In much the same way that 60 card standard/modern Japanese players seemed to be way ahead in the early 00's deck building wise, they are ahead of us in responsible deck building inclusions for cedh. I slotted in Faerie Artisan and Aboleth Spawn into my Derevi list because, mid range lists will continue to jam broken creatures with great etbs and am I really doing everything I can to win when I can also playing those creatures? Plus both give us bodies to untap with which is extra value.

  • @FunnyFunFunTime
    @FunnyFunFunTime 6 месяцев назад +1

    _M_I_N_D_ Goblin
    Oh, some cards that have helped my Korvold recently are:
    Fungal Infection (Dominaria common) - The interaction is priceless vs. early threats (Ragavan, Bowmaster mirror especially, Faerie Mastermind)
    Also can prevent some Dockside loops, which have been recently appearing in my LGS meta !?.
    The 1/1 token left behind also is great for Diabolic Intent or future Korvold.
    Stalactite Stalker (Lost Caverns of Ixalan rare) - Kills Magistrate at just the right time ;)
    Vexing Devil (Avacyn Restored rare) - This is one of my favorite *political* cards, by ransoming the table straight away. "Whomever pays the 4 life will incur my wrath" etc
    Then proceed to beat up people who skip ahead in game-state. With the classic excuse *Oh,you have a Rhystic Study out already?*
    Boseiju, Who Shelters All (Champions of Kamigawa rare) - This really helps push many 3rd turn mid-game refuel spells: Wheel, Ad Naus in spots I would usually be hesitant to cast.
    Also is great with Tibalt's Trickery.
    Great video & discussions thumbs up _b.
    Get some sleep Matthew.

  • @slept6736
    @slept6736 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ug Cortex are my fave and feel amazing, they also fit tightly when double sleeved

  • @TheBreachBoysMTG
    @TheBreachBoysMTG 6 месяцев назад +1

    Heavy Play sleeves are super butter smooth! i’ve had a great experience playing with these and i highly recommend them!

  • @GoldSabertooth
    @GoldSabertooth 5 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent episode. Keep up the good work

  • @iMrTillman
    @iMrTillman 6 месяцев назад +2

    I love Ultimate Guard Katanas. They need to add more colors, but they are the best by far

  • @SenorCoupon
    @SenorCoupon 6 месяцев назад +1

    Worth adding to the Dragon Shield discussion, I placed an order for ~$120 of sleeves (between their standard matte and dual matte). I waited 3-4 weeks for it to arrive, and upon still having not received anything, I sent an e-mail to their customer service, who then told me that they were out of one of the colors I had ordered, and issued me a refund. What bothered me about that is, what would have happened if I hadn't reached out? Were they just going to keep my money and never let me know what happened? It was just shady as heck. Outside of that, though, I've had great experiences with Dragon Shield. Their products look, feel, and shuffle extremely well, they're durable... honestly the dual mattes are probably my favorite sleeve out there. But hearing another bad customer service experience as well as other folks in the comments, it makes me question the integrity of the brand.

    • @SenorCoupon
      @SenorCoupon 6 месяцев назад

      *note, when the orders have processed correctly, their shipping is very quick. Most recently they arrived only two business days after the order was placed.
      **also note on original post: DS customer support stated that they cannot do partial refunds, which is why my order was lost on the aether, but that doesn't excuse the lack of communication or action before I reached out

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy 6 месяцев назад +2

    One of these days my boy Gaddock Teeg is gonna make a comeback! :) I will keep trying to make it happen lol.

  • @ravensiIva
    @ravensiIva 6 месяцев назад +1

    After using dragonshields for 10 years, with the past few years of bad batches, i have abandoned dragon shields for katanas. Hurts not having a ton of color options, but i value functionality and longevity as someone who only single sleeves (even my duals and reserve lists)

  • @pokedadsam9041
    @pokedadsam9041 5 месяцев назад

    I enjoy my BCW elites. Sleeves (inner and outer) and deck box for $10. Bought them wholesale for $5 per bundle and use the deck boxes for card storage. Would like a bit fancier of a deck box but the sleeves are great.

  • @bobthor9647
    @bobthor9647 6 месяцев назад +1

    Lightning Bolt 🌩 ⚡️stops a lot of Kinnan, tymna, random pirates , dockside combos, bowmasters, magistrates, etc. I only play about two games a week so i dont know if its good 😊

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад

      Especially if you're in lower colors, I'm pretty much always running bolt.

  • @CandyClam
    @CandyClam 6 месяцев назад +1

    New to the channel, so forgive me if I missed it when you covered it already, but I think it would be really cool to hear more about your take on low color and mono-color decks in cEDH, especially since they have previously shown shocking and unexpected results.

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад +1

      I dont have a video specifically talking about them in general, but there are videos with some coverage on them. There aren't many that have consistent results right now, but I go over some that did really well recently in this video:
      ruclips.net/video/V8c8W1HV5Gw/видео.htmlsi=aq41zkWercC2OsCJ

    • @CandyClam
      @CandyClam 6 месяцев назад

      @@LemorasCards Awesome thank you!

  • @andreaslion5877
    @andreaslion5877 6 месяцев назад +1

    I didn't even need to watch that breena segment to put her in my blood pod list lmao, once I heard her name (I knew the card because I have a casual deck with her as the commander) I was sold

  • @samdunn5846
    @samdunn5846 6 месяцев назад +2

    Im having that problem with dragonshield sleeves too😞 from multiple places i think im done

    • @nickprado3849
      @nickprado3849 6 месяцев назад +2

      I only use Katanas now, Ive had way too many fresh packs of DS split on me

  • @superjake5126
    @superjake5126 6 месяцев назад +1

    I've been saying Katana are the best sleeves for ages. I'm not a fan of Dragon Shields since half the packs I've bought of theirs all got bent corners really quick and don't shuffle smooth either.

  • @raedien
    @raedien 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ooh, I'll have to check if I have a Korean Firestorm...

  • @your_priscylla
    @your_priscylla 6 месяцев назад +1

    You already know I’m on this Massacre Girl hype train, and I’ve been eating *good* with it 😎

    • @your_priscylla
      @your_priscylla 6 месяцев назад

      In general I think that we’re finally reaching a point where cards should be evaluated on a deck-by-deck metric and not just auto included because of staple status.
      I wasn’t on Culling Ritual in Reyhan/Kraum for almost the exact same reason Eric pointed out (I am on it now though) and I think people really should evaluate all the cards with how they work with your strategy not just like “everyone runs this so I have to”.

  • @Dubbios
    @Dubbios 6 месяцев назад +1

    Gamegenic boxes are the best... For sure. And I use ultrapro Eclipse for most of my decks (except for my most expensive one), and those are perfect for single sleeve, and cheaper than most top end sleeves and just like half step lower on quality.

  • @craigrgriffin
    @craigrgriffin 6 месяцев назад +1

    I ordered a case of Dragon Shields off of Amazon, and the quality level is not what I usually expect, the esged are cut very unfinished, the size is just barely smaller than my other ones(only noticeable when inserting cards, because it makes it very difficult) and I've heard this from people other than myself. It may be time to make the switch 🤔

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад +1

      I'm definitely looking around and trying out all kinds of sleeves right now.

    • @craigrgriffin
      @craigrgriffin 6 месяцев назад +1

      @LemorasCards I just got a free set of Heavy Play curves at an event. I'm checking them out on a legacy deck right now. The shuffling is very smooth, and no bent corners. I've heard they don't last though. We'll see 🤷‍♂️

  • @zacharymiller3417
    @zacharymiller3417 6 месяцев назад +1

    Can you share a link to the Japanese Korvold stream or decklist with life from the loam/Azusa!? Seems interesting, would love to see what else they have going on.

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад

      www.moxfield.com/decks/7OByoRBTDEm4XQ4KmMt72A
      ruclips.net/user/live9d7IMb2m4_w?si=9o-QAMiBmjPzwNHe

  • @drunklog1crecords144
    @drunklog1crecords144 6 месяцев назад +2

    I was the kinnan player lol. That was a tough position for the Thrasios player and at the time I was showing only infinite colorless. I didn’t drop ezone for land until after he let it resolve.

  • @crust2dust664
    @crust2dust664 6 месяцев назад +1

    Been a fan of your content for a while now, first time to comment. I'm a big fan of Katana's & UltraGuard's new Apex sleeves. They make shuffling so easy & slick. Dragon Shield's Mattes are 3rd best for me but their custom sleeves are by far the worse sleeves i've ever used.

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you, glad to hear from you! I'll have to try to Apex, first time ive heard about those.

  • @harm2714
    @harm2714 6 месяцев назад +1

    Katanas + Dragon Shield Sideloaders is the way.

    • @syndicate5357
      @syndicate5357 6 месяцев назад

      Try the perfect fit hard inner sleeves with them

  • @bobthor9647
    @bobthor9647 6 месяцев назад +1

    Has anyone ever noticed Rite of Flame adds more for each other rite of flame in graveyards ?

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад

      I'm always checking for it, though still rarely comes up for me.

  • @johnnyo00
    @johnnyo00 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great content

  • @syndicate5357
    @syndicate5357 6 месяцев назад +1

    KMC perfect fit hard inner sleeves

  • @abeldaking
    @abeldaking 6 месяцев назад +1

    New to mtg so never played cedh or korvald but damn do I want to try it now lol 😂

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад

      It's a ton of fun! Easily one of the most exciting decks I've ever played in any game.

    • @abeldaking
      @abeldaking 6 месяцев назад +1

      where can I get a decklist to start brewing?@@LemorasCards

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад +2

      @@abeldaking there's links in the description to Eric's test list we talk about here, as well as a link to his moxfield in my linktree if you want his standard list, also in the description.

    • @abeldaking
      @abeldaking 6 месяцев назад

      @@LemorasCards Thanks

  • @bigschaeff1
    @bigschaeff1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video

  • @DVS57REBEL
    @DVS57REBEL 6 месяцев назад +1

    I've been playing TN k for a few years and I've been playing brena. As a high power casual deck Since release, and it's a creeper bro. Like you gotta turn coming around to you. You got a giant bird that smacks. And it's gonna draw you a card on trigger. It beats it is political It's fast

  • @dave_8600
    @dave_8600 6 месяцев назад +1

    If breena is good does that make Gix good too? More total card draw, lack of counters, has the activated as a way exploit a long game

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад

      Could be worth thinking about in a creature heavy deck. Doesn't have the same pressure on life totals, but could still do some good work for the reasons you listed.

  • @showtelll
    @showtelll 6 месяцев назад

    Bree a is so fun

  • @boxerbiker4672
    @boxerbiker4672 6 месяцев назад

    BCW Elite 2 matte sleeves.

  • @impendio
    @impendio 6 месяцев назад +2

    >Breena
    😂 T&K discord wants to know your location

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад +2

      they can keep trying to make their deck faster and lose to Kinnan all they want, I will keep my sky demon.

  • @pincheterror
    @pincheterror 6 месяцев назад +1

    Breena Stax?

  • @Urros
    @Urros 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'm a dummy, can someone explain to me how Breena plays, does it trigger off each creature you attack with?

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад +1

      It triggers once for each opponent of yours that is attacked that isn't at the lowest life total. You can (basically) trigger it twice per turn, getting four +1/+1 counters, and drawing two cards if you're the attacker.

    • @Urros
      @Urros 6 месяцев назад

      @@LemorasCards thank yous

  • @runcmd1419
    @runcmd1419 6 месяцев назад

    W/ breena “immediately swung and drew two cards” where is the second card coming from?

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад

      You can draw up to two cards a turn with Breena. It triggers for each opponent attacked who has more life than another, so if you attack two players at 40 life while another is at 35, you get two triggers.

    • @runcmd1419
      @runcmd1419 6 месяцев назад

      @@LemorasCards Oh duh, I was sitting here thinking it isn’t one for you + the attacking player.

  • @LukeLeners
    @LukeLeners 6 месяцев назад

    Every single set of Dragon Shield dual mattes that I have purchased has been useless within the first few games. Multiple sleeves have ruptured at the corner and completely ripped during the second and third games, routinely (regardless of color). My OLD Dragon Shield sleeves continue to be reliable, but I would NEVER recommend new Dragon Shield product to other players using genuine cards.

  • @omgitsjeromed
    @omgitsjeromed 6 месяцев назад

    Everyone thinks blood moon is a bad card until winota flips magus of the moon

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад

      I dislike Blood Moon effects unless you have a lock on the board. I've seen them give the game to turbo players and lock out the table police so many times.

  • @jeremiahjones9940
    @jeremiahjones9940 6 месяцев назад

    Talk about Gruul

  • @jarredjenkins8054
    @jarredjenkins8054 6 месяцев назад

    Sick of the midrange card draw ?
    Ban Force of Will
    Us turbo players need it
    Will balance the meta

    • @LemorasCards
      @LemorasCards  6 месяцев назад

      I think Fierce Guardianship is probably the most bannable counterspell, but I don't think I'd wanna ban any of them.

  • @Winterhe4rt
    @Winterhe4rt 6 месяцев назад

    Katanas easily the worst sleeves I have ever tried in my 25 years of playing card games. Id rather play penny sleeves then Katanas again. They are just that bad.