The Gamo Magnum Swarm gen 2 is even better. 35 FPE - SPRINGER. 10 round magazine, comes with scope too. If youre outside the UK and can own a 35 FPE rifle, this is the one!
Brought a HW 99s a while ago and was more than impressed and have left the scope off as it's more fun. Now deciding what to get next to put scope on. Air arms pro sport is what I'm thinking
That's an older version of the gun that Andy's demonstrated in the video. The 'GEN2' version has a low-profile magazine and iron sights. However, as I always say, the manufacturer who creates a reliable version of the 'Seneca Aspen/Nova Freedom' will make themselves a fortune. No more impractical, lugging around/constantly refilling, air tanks 24/7.
American fan here. In the U.S., that's a first generation 10x system. GAMO has developed a Gen 2 swing-down mag system that lets the loading system lay flat on the barrel then swing down to load. It also has protection to keep you from accidentally double loading a second pellet. The low profile allows peep scope mounts to let you use iron sights as well. I prefer Gen 1, though. It's hard to believe you find that dampening system loud. It's about as quiet as they get here in the US. I just bought a .22 Swarm Hunter with the beechwood stock from GAMO's US website and it has no suppression system. It's louder, but still not as loud as, say, an unsuppressed Crosman. Keep up the great videos!
I live in the USA and we do not have any Deaf Rabbits. Grin! Yep Gamo has been making progress. I have the new Fusion Gen3i at 19 plus FPE with the GTO pellet and it is also very accurate. It is right on the tail of my HW95. Cheers Kit
Andy, with a Springer you will get the best accuracy by using a soft rest, eg a cushion or your hand. This let's the gun recoil cleanly and consistently, a hard rest will change the pellet striking point and will punish accuracy from different positions.
@@carllockpick6179 Hi Carl, sadly I've not tried one of those, but my Air Arms TX200 will do pellet on pellet, one hole groups all day with a consistent hold, pellet selection plays a part as you need to match the pellet to the gun and select for best accuracy. Anything made by JSB is always a good start, Air Arms, FX, JSB, Falcon accuracy plus and Webley Mosquitoes are all made by JSB and have subtle differences to experiment with. Btw, skills learned shooting springers keep you 'honest' when shooting PCPs, Have fun shooting and best of luck.
Quite true Mike! I tried using a barrel mount bipod for a while on my BSA Supersport and it was awful I take a small lead bag with me now if I think I will need it and if am not going to be travelling too far or simply use one of my PCP rifles on a bipod for the task instead.
One vital thing you missed out there Andy is these come in both spring and gas ram. The Varmint models are gas ram. The models without the word "Varmint" are springers. I have the Varmint Barricade. With a bigger scope and RSW or H&N pellets, it's an amazing gun for what you pay.
Got a Speedster gen 2 in .177 last weekend and love it! I think Gamo/BSA have done away with the Springer variants and gone gas ram across-the-board with all the gen 2 models. Totally agree what you're saying about the H&N pellets. Try the Barracudas mine loves them.
I'm new to the air rifle scene so I'm wondering whats the difference between gas ram and springer? Is this particular model a springer as on air gun sites its listed under that category
@@paulgreen5746 hey Paul i have the speedster and roadster and they are actually a spring not gas ram,some sites are advertising them as igt but they are actually spring,i have found this out when i took mine apart and also pellpax got in touch with gamo and they confirmed that they are spring for the uk market and igt for europe and the u.s. ..if you are from europe or the u.s you can just ignore me ;)
Another quality AAR video, I only became interested in the air rifle scene about 2 months ago, and in that time I have watched numerous videos from Andy, and every single one is great! I actually bought this rifle a few weeks ago as I couldn't afford a PCP 😔. But I have no complaints with the gamo varmint swarm, it looks awesome, the magazine system is fantastic, it's accurate and all for a great price, definitely the best break barrel you can buy! Highly recommended by me!
@@Br-hh2lm I know this is very late, but it comes with it in the box, Mine came with 2 but I think that is because it was delivered whilst I was in the shop and the RFD hadn't been able to sneakily remove one in front of me, I think the RFD removes one from each box that comes in, to sell them as they are usually advertised as coming with one magazine and are £29.99 each for an extra one at my local RFD
The Gamos has become VERY good these last years. Many great Swarm model rifles by them out nowadays. Might easily concider a Gamo if ever want to get a multi-shot break barrel. Gamo do have nowadays some hard shooting break barrel rifles.. But my old Crosman Phantom has been more than enough of a break-barrel for me, so it will do for the time being at least. Never really concidered to start collecting break-barrel rifles. Got more than enough of replica airpistols already (Yea.. who am I trying to fool with that..🤣).. Did actually wake up before 5am(3am UK time), to empty a couple of magazines with my Sig Sauer Virtus again before my work start at 6...
We sound the same lol, i've got 2 CO2 replica pistols and the cheapest springer chinese springer. Now don't get me wrong i do like my humble budget springer but sometimes i look at the Gamos or other quality springers and think : "you better not start collecting springers!" For the case of the CO2 pistols, i think with 2 i'm good for a while.
Man! this is The Thing! Crikey! Some guys at GAMO got it right this time. This thing ought to sell very very well. (Hell I bought it) I'll tell you this Andy: I saw a 20-something kid in America review his. He got it by simply going to Wal-Mart and buying the "most expensive air rifle" the store had. Totally clueless. Well he lucked out in my opinion. So, I decided to dig down on this gun and that's how I found you, which is what I really needed. Not some youngster. The "game changer" (hate that expression but it fits here) is, of course, the 10 pellet magazine for...wait for it! a break-barrel??!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK Andy. Here's the thing. The scope which comes with the rifle is spot on. You hardly need to sight it in. Even The Kid was close. He had to adjust it slightly and then he was hitting the center of the target just like you are. This is incredible! Really. The effing gun is perfect right out of the box. I'd be nervous if The Kid was having a good test and you didn't. Or vice versa. But so far it's 2 out of 2. Crikey!! I'm gonna buy one. Oh almost forgot. GAMO thought to sell it with a Real Wood Stock. Not that nasty plastic thing. The Varmint wood stock is just what I wanted, as an old timer (I'm probably your Dad's age). I've never gotten used to the modern materials deal...you know? P.S. the American model is 1,000 feet per sec (w/ alloy pellet). That's rated at 17.70 ft/lbs or 24 J. UPDATE: I just purchased mine from GAMO direct. $149.90 + $18.98 FedEx + $14.86 Tax = $183.74. Sweet!
Bought this as my first air rifle in 30years and i absolutely love it, your review is spot on, its a great rifle, for all round use and always puts a smile om my face
I bought the Maxxim Elite Swarm with a wooden stock about 2 weeks ago. It is essentially the same rifle, just with an adjustable cheek piece and rubber grip inserts. It chrono'd at my RFD at 11.9Ibft and is incredibly accurate once zeroed in using JSB Exact Diabolo pellets. It's a really well made Rifle, nice and lightweight, well balanced and lovely to use! I have a had a few squirrels with it and recommend it highly 👌
I’ve been testing a few pellets on my gamo swarm hunter in .177. So far the daisy flat heads have been performing best. I like the 10x system that allows you to test 10 pellets at a time. I bought an extra cartridge just for that purpose. Great review!
Gamo have done it before (40 years ago), I have an ASI (the importer for Gamo in the UK) Paratrooper Repeater. It has a tube mag feeding a pop up breach. It was a bit pellet fussy as the pellet length had to match the depth of the pop up, and you could only really use domed diabolo pellets, but it worked well enough. It was also offered in more traditional wooden stock and sold as the 'Sniper'. There is also the Artemis SR900S sidelever, with a rotary mag.
great review as always! that looks like a pretty decent gun! and hey, having that big spring in it eliminates the need for air refills, fittings, tanks, adaptors, etc. a nice self contained unit. and the difference between filling it with air pressure or cocking it shouldn't be a deal breaker. after all, in the end, you're just pulling a trigger to deliver some air pressure to the back of the pellet. the pellet doesn't care where it comes from. ;)
This video has just reminded me of a multi-shot air rifle I owned alongside my BSA and Dianna in the early 90s (oh, and I’ve just remembered I also had a Weihrauch side lever). Anyway, the multi-shot rifle I had was an absolutely awful Chinese thing. The stock was more orange than wood colour but as it had a 10 or 12 shot magazine it appealed to me no end as a 13 year old lad! I can’t remember exactly if it was a break barrel or side lever, but instead of working in the same way as the Gammo in this video, You used to use the barrel/lever to pump up a little air cylinder and then manually turn the magazine. It was the worst thing I have ever used, seen or heard, so it was good to see the idea being used in a gun that doesn’t look like it was plucked of a tree!
Mine hits harder than what he says no doubt. I'm in the USA though. Mine says 800 with lead. And my rifle was dead on within 2 mags. It really does shoot so dang good. Feels good in hands. I can't say enough good things about this rifle. 134 I paid
My first since my old Benjamin .177 when I was a boy 65 years ago. I've been watching some of the iguana hunters in Florida, and then looking at various makers and models, in a half-hearted way. Watching various reviews. Saw one this evening (see my review above) and that led me to Andy.
I have the predecessor to this rifle the Gamo shadowmatic,177,10 shot tube magazine feeding a rising and lowering trapdoor. Yes,its a bit noisy but its a powerfull rat basher all day. Been super reliable too,had it for well over 10 years! Nice review of an updated version!
I have the updated version called the bone collector in .22 cal with wood stock $319 in the USA 🇺🇸. I made a moderator for mine see on my channel and it works . Thanks Andy . Peter
Ace review. I really like the look of these. It would be great for my dad that due to arthritis now struggles with the awkward loading on his 177 Walther LGU. Gamo, for a long time have been alot better than what people give them credit for. My old 2006 Gamo CFX still puts out 10 foot pounds on the original spring and is every bit as accurate as my LGU, plus its much, much lighter.
Perfect rifle in my opinion, the synthetic is light, nice grip, accuracy perfect, and the magazine just the cherry on the top, in my opinion this is the best rifle you're going to get unless you start paying silly money, i prefer break barrels anyway, outstanding gun, wouldn't be bad at twice the price.
Gen 1 Swarm System doesn't have "recoil advance" so it is possible to double load a pellet. With the Gen 2 Swarm System they've fixed that. If they're selling that as new they're getting rid of some of their old inventory. Other than the low quality scope it's a great gun and I love the wood stock.
I have a first generation Swarm and it is more than I expected in accurateness. The magazine reloading spring broke once and Gamo replaced it no problem with up dated spring and reloader for free. More often than not I reach for the Swarm before I go for my Umarex gauntlet which I do also enjoy using.
Great vid again andy. That is some accuracy as well, especially with the arc of sub 12ftlbs .22 cal. The. 177 i bet will be like a *laser beam " with that flatter trajectory. Hatsan do a version of this called the Speedfire. I do love the build quality of Hatsans and you get alot for your money with Quattro trigger system, fibre optic sights, recoil reduction system and an auto safety and 11mm-20mm dovetails also. All the best from lancashire
Good review as ever. Kudos for recognising the insensitivity of reviewing the AK. The Varmint looks a fine gun, though I would have to have my Walther LGU ripped from my hands before I'd buy one. That said, the Varmint is a big temptation. Seems that you've finally got the springer bug, Andy, PCPs are great guns, but springers are the real thing when it comes to fun.
how is it insensitive? its been used in every major conflict since the 1980s(the 74 model). if it wasnt insensitive to review it during the gwot in afghanistan why would it be now?
This was my first gun, It is a great gun for a beginner ! Started my obsession. The person that sold it to me said. When your comfy and want to upgrade, bring it back and you can part exchange. Crazy guy !! You don't bring your first kid back, when you have a second one 😂
That 'out of the box' grouping at 40m with a .22 springer is amazing, even without the autoloader gubbins! Looks like a good reliable system though being a bolt-on, looks clunky. However, having proven the process hopefully they can get it looking slicker with future generations. Hell of an outfit for the price. If they can do all that for
Nice review Andrew , people don't realize how accurate the Gamos are now days. I'm here in the states and my magnum gen 2 is very accurate and up to 29 fpe. My original magnum .22 not as strong ( 24 - 27 fpe ) but insanely accurate with terminators .
Morning all . I still own an El gamo . 22 Magnum I bought back in the Seventies . It still fires well and just as accurate as it was whey back when .Relax enjoy the shoot you can't go far wrong with a springer .............. Nice review Andy keep them coming mate .
Good call, with the AK 🤔 like the other guy love a good springer me, always have ever since I used to drawl over the latest models when I was a lad,in our local gunshop was a real traditional good shop,but sadly no longer,but now we've got the internet,oh well ! nice video as usual, welcome relief.thanks and atvbDave
I REALEY LIKED YOUR SHOW ON THE GAMO VARMINT SWARM, THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERED ME IS ITS NOT A SPRINGER IT HAS A GAS PISTON NOT A SPRING, MAKES IT A LOT BETTER. I HAVE BROKEN A LOT OF SPRINGS SO I GOT A GAMO WITH A GAS PISTON AND NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR GREAT REVIEWS. JIM H.
My first gun for a while was a Gamo whisper sting kit. Priced at £162.00 then for the complete kit, it has given me hours of fun. I shoot mine at 30m and consistently achieve close groupings. I do find that it shoots ok out to 40 and 50m, but to be absolutely honest, I simply have better guns for these distances. What makes the Gamo special? It is light, not just in terms of weight, but also the cocking mechanism. So for a couple of hours plinking and 67 year old arms, it is ideal. This new gun, with the magazine, wooden stock and better one piece mount, looks like an absolute bargain and I would dearly love one. In regards to Andy not being familiar with springers! Someone of your age Andy must have fired a few in your time. Combine that with being a pretty good shot in any event, your grouping with a new rifle seemed pretty good to me. Another great review, but sadly not for me. I have a Weirauch 97k on order, a Weirauch 80 in my cupboard but I would consider this item if I ever sell my whisper sting.
Jus got this but it's the hunter version with no baffle jus a huge muzzle. Shoots great. 4x32 scope. Wish I got the 3x9x32 or 40. Update. The rifle shots crosman hp, rws extra point and round head exactly the same. No need to re sight the scope each time. Never in my life has that happened. So dang happy is this guy.
Really look forward to my Friday morning AAR Reviews! This is a real ground breaker for springers and I’m sure will sell in large amounts, another extremely well presented and informative video!👍🏻🤗
Hi andy i already own one but you described it as a spring gun when it is a igt inert gas technology gas ram and the trigger is plastic and not metal but as you said it is a budget gun and manufactured to a high standard of quality yes it is a bit loud and not really suitable for the back garden but for hunting and pest control that is not a problem i would recommend putting a ao scope on it i have the harke vantage 3-9x50ao on mine and it is perfect i am 60 now and first started shooting with a spring gun when i was about 12 but now i am mainly a pcp man the advantage a spring gun as over a pcp is that there is less to go wrong and you don't need take all the accessories with you so if you go camping and want to shoot a few rabbits for a nice stew around the camp fire then a spring gas ram gun is the perfect choice great review as always andy just one thing we are humanity hominids ascending from our true ancestors the great apes migration colonisation time evolution civilisation the material field the status quo but please remember not to give a chimpanzee a live hand grenade because it will pull the pin lol all the best mike
My daughter (11) just started shooting. i got her the trusty daisy powerline 880. i had one , hell everyone when i was a kid had one. anyways i picked up the gamo varmint and sweet jesus. that thing is no joke. No tin can is safe at my house lol.
Hi andy, had one in 177, absolutely fantastic gun loved it, but unfortunately build quality is shocking, it was very accurate mine was gas ram, 11 ft pound, after 3 months dropped to 9, plastic breech block developed a fault, when striped packed with black grease causing desiling, cocking arm made a masive score on the gas ram, piston seal very poor, split when factory assembled, it was one of my favourite guns, i think if it was put together with better quality it would be a winner, mine is currently out of action thanks for good review
Have a Gamo break barrel .22...gas ram , suppressed barrel, fibre sights, synthetic stock, was £85 a few years back, good back up when you run out of ar.
Andy when did u buy that model. I bought my first gamo by mistaken thinking it was the 10x type..so I bought another this time taking the time to look at it first..is ther a kit so u can convert the single shot to a 10x..????. I got both in real tree camouflage..both excellent guns but a moan about the difficult magazine loading
definitely one to add to the cabinet. hatsan also do a couple of similar versions. both break barrel and an underlever version. never seen one used though. that gamo is nice and accurate
I was a late starter to PCP, so from about 1958 until about 2009 I only used springers. My favourite being the HW80 which I used from the 80s until 2009 when I acquired my first PCP a BSA ultra I now have 2 Ultra’s. I still fetch out the elderly HW80 and let it air it’s lungs.
@@andyb8501 I also had FWB 124 sport which was an accurate rifle but it was a bit of a B regarding scopes trying to walk backwards off the rifle, once an arrester block screwed on behind the scope it stopped its wandering backwards.
Looks really good. How about if there was a jam, any idea if it would be easy to sort out? Also, any way to hand load rounds if in future the auto load system did go a bit wonky?
I have one of the older ones in .177, but side by side, I couldn't tell it apart from this one. Mine has been very accurate and reliable, although I have heard of some people having utter nightmares with them. It is very lairy if you get the wrong pellets, but if you stick with heavy and expensive, it's great. I really like mine, as does everyone else who's ever shot it, but I can appreciate there are quite a few out there that were knocked together at siesta time.
Something that I noticed about these rifles is that they have some problems in loading from the cartridge. I love them and have... not telling how many. BUT... I noticed that if you take the cartridge out when charging it AND THEN put it back in and breakover again slowly, it loads better. And that's why I have more single shot breakovers.
Great vid on the strength of this I have just ordered my first air rifle it was the loading cartridge that did it for me will update when I receive my Gamo I canny wait 😀
Not being an airgun user, I find it funny to comment on the 'noise'. I use Centerfire .22 , 6.5 Creedmoor and 338 Lapua and those really make noise :). Great video, always interesting content!!
Greetings Andy ! I've got something to say ? It's freezing 🥶 had heating on since I arrived back from the Sudan 🇸🇩 ..... Got around , even though I can't walk anymore .... Great tan as well ... Great review Andy , fine rifle .. crack shooting...... it's a winner. .... take care 🙂 cheers Simon
I do love classic line rifles too, with straight lines, without belly under the stock. Btw. You should try Evanix AR4K. Very compact, lightweight, accurate even at 100 yrds, fast repeating system, and classic feel wood stock.
Andy you’ve done it again. I bought the GX40 on your review. Great gun and now you’ve forced me to open wallet surgery again. Thanks buddy all the best. PS the VS is a gas ram not a springer.
I have a similar rifle to that as well! Except mine is called the Gamo Hunter Swarm 10x .22 Cal All features are the same! Crazy to see one that has a different name. 😄
I jus got that version as well. It's really good so far. The muzzle is huge, the only thing I want expecting. I thought it was going to be like this look
Great review, thanks. I'm looking for a new springer for some light pest control around a smallholding, plus some fun plinking and reviews like this help no end. Might now be treating myself next week!
Thanks great review, I hope the full power version is as accurate, I liked seeing you truly enjoying shooting, nice to see such an honest first hand experience.
Even though I wish you have reviewed the gen 2 configuration I am still extremely happy with having the abillity to watch the review from you !! Thank you !! Also for what is worth I do not have problem to see an AK review ... actually I would be happy
Hi Andy, Thank you for publishing such informative videos. I was wondering if you can do one on red dots, in particular how to setup and calibrate the Hawke red dots. Thanks
Are we forgetting the BSA Goldstar 10 shot? I realise this is a review of the Gamo, but thought you may have mentioned the stablemate. The BSA used the older BSA tick tock mag, and had the typical (of its time) BSA kick. Apologies if someone has already posted about the Goldstar, I did scroll through the comments but didn't see it mentioned. The Silverstar was its sister rifle, which had a single shot Martini loading style. Fantastic review as always. Please keep up the great work!
Fascinating, I have a maxxim, a couple of years old now but I believe the it’s only a different stock. Really nice looking gun lovely finish and the magazine works really well. I’d like to be able to adjust the probe a little to get pellets slightly further in as the seal can catch. That’s the good stuff. I was new to shooting so was quite happy to be rubbish but I couldn’t hit a barn door. I was quite good with my sons AA S200! So I took it back and after the shop owner blamed the scope (it’s functional) and fitting a Hawke he came back 5 minutes later proclaiming he also couldn’t hit a barn door. 10 weeks back at BSA for a new barrel. (I bought a HW100 in the meantime secondhand) and now I can probably hit the access door in the barn door, with a Hawke fitted. I wouldn’t go beyond 25m - 30m with it and could just about keep a group in the black area. Competed with it recently at 25m and came 10th out of 12 shooters. Same day shooting my PCP came 2nd out of 20 shooters…. Recon I could have been 1st if I hadn’t rushed the last shot cos I thought time was nearly up. So Andy I think I might be the non sprinter shooter😏. Oh and none of my family think it’s easy to cock - muscles like Tarzan ( my other sons stoeger is much easier and probably a little more accurate, bought second hand for £100). I will persevere though….
I really like my Gamo10x. It's a USA model with nitro piston. But I wanted to ask you about Why on the cocking mechanism is it marked .21cal? Iv'e never had a pellet rifle marjed other than .22cal??? strange right?
I've had one for a year now and it's a good gun but it's too loud for back yard plinking. I take mine with me to my permissions and use it once the PCP is exhausted of air. They do benefit from having a better scope on them & fitted a 3-9x40 hawke fast mount to mine.
Good one Andy. Reared on springers and have a soft spot for them. Always fancied the old Theoben SLR. Try shooting the Springer off a stack of soft cushions just cradling the grip and stock enough to guide the rifle then allow it to recoil. Shooting from a hard tripod will not do any favours for accuracy. Good review mate
Love a decent, well priced springer. It's what air rifles is all about for me.
The Gamo Magnum Swarm gen 2 is even better. 35 FPE - SPRINGER. 10 round magazine, comes with scope too. If youre outside the UK and can own a 35 FPE rifle, this is the one!
Much better than CO2.
Brought a HW 99s a while ago and was more than impressed and have left the scope off as it's more fun. Now deciding what to get next to put scope on. Air arms pro sport is what I'm thinking
That's an older version of the gun that Andy's demonstrated in the video. The 'GEN2' version has a low-profile magazine and iron sights. However, as I always say, the manufacturer who creates a reliable version of the 'Seneca Aspen/Nova Freedom' will make themselves a fortune. No more impractical, lugging around/constantly refilling, air tanks 24/7.
$ How much ?
American fan here. In the U.S., that's a first generation 10x system. GAMO has developed a Gen 2 swing-down mag system that lets the loading system lay flat on the barrel then swing down to load. It also has protection to keep you from accidentally double loading a second pellet. The low profile allows peep scope mounts to let you use iron sights as well. I prefer Gen 1, though. It's hard to believe you find that dampening system loud. It's about as quiet as they get here in the US. I just bought a .22 Swarm Hunter with the beechwood stock from GAMO's US website and it has no suppression system. It's louder, but still not as loud as, say, an unsuppressed Crosman. Keep up the great videos!
Same that rifle is badass. I hit everything with it out to50 yrds with ease
I just ordered the Gamo hunter22 curious how the gun is working out for you?
I live in the USA and we do not have any Deaf Rabbits. Grin!
Yep Gamo has been making progress. I have the new Fusion Gen3i at 19 plus FPE with the GTO pellet and it is also very accurate. It is right on the tail of my HW95.
Cheers
Kit
Andy, with a Springer you will get the best accuracy by using a soft rest, eg a cushion or your hand.
This let's the gun recoil cleanly and consistently, a hard rest will change the pellet striking point and will punish accuracy from different positions.
Best me to it! 👍
Hi Mike, what is a realistic grouping from a remington sabre. .22 at 60 ft. Its a honest question, I am a Newby.
@@carllockpick6179 Hi Carl, sadly I've not tried one of those, but my Air Arms TX200 will do pellet on pellet, one hole groups all day with a consistent hold, pellet selection plays a part as you need to match the pellet to the gun and select for best accuracy. Anything made by JSB is always a good start, Air Arms, FX, JSB, Falcon accuracy plus and Webley Mosquitoes are all made by JSB and have subtle differences to experiment with.
Btw, skills learned shooting springers keep you 'honest' when shooting PCPs, Have fun shooting and best of luck.
@@mikehunt8968 Thank you Mike, best wishes, keep safe.
Quite true Mike! I tried using a barrel mount bipod for a while on my BSA Supersport and it was awful I take a small lead bag with me now if I think I will need it and if am not going to be travelling too far or simply use one of my PCP rifles on a bipod for the task instead.
Just got into air rifle shooting and grabbed myself a Gamo Swarm to start off. Love plinking targets in my garden with it.
One vital thing you missed out there Andy is these come in both spring and gas ram. The Varmint models are gas ram. The models without the word "Varmint" are springers. I have the Varmint Barricade. With a bigger scope and RSW or H&N pellets, it's an amazing gun for what you pay.
Got a Speedster gen 2 in .177 last weekend and love it! I think Gamo/BSA have done away with the Springer variants and gone gas ram across-the-board with all the gen 2 models. Totally agree what you're saying about the H&N pellets. Try the Barracudas mine loves them.
I'm new to the air rifle scene so I'm wondering whats the difference between gas ram and springer? Is this particular model a springer as on air gun sites its listed under that category
@@paulgreen5746 hey Paul i have the speedster and roadster and they are actually a spring not gas ram,some sites are advertising them as igt but they are actually spring,i have found this out when i took mine apart and also pellpax got in touch with gamo and they confirmed that they are spring for the uk market and igt for europe and the u.s.
..if you are from europe or the u.s you can just ignore me ;)
Well I bought this rifle last year & it has written on it Varmint swarm & it's a Springer
@@stephenboyd4934 Yeah your right ,the 'varmint' models use a metal spring and the maxxim elite tactical version is a gas ram.
Another quality AAR video, I only became interested in the air rifle scene about 2 months ago, and in that time I have watched numerous videos from Andy, and every single one is great! I actually bought this rifle a few weeks ago as I couldn't afford a PCP 😔. But I have no complaints with the gamo varmint swarm, it looks awesome, the magazine system is fantastic, it's accurate and all for a great price, definitely the best break barrel you can buy! Highly recommended by me!
Have you got to buy the magazine separately or does it come in the box
@@Br-hh2lm I know this is very late, but it comes with it in the box, Mine came with 2 but I think that is because it was delivered whilst I was in the shop and the RFD hadn't been able to sneakily remove one in front of me, I think the RFD removes one from each box that comes in, to sell them as they are usually advertised as coming with one magazine and are £29.99 each for an extra one at my local RFD
And another vote for! I just bought mine (it's a year later by the way, March 22, 2024). Read my lengthy review.
@@Br-hh2lmin the box. Every thing but the pellets are in the box.
I used to have a Gamo Paratrooper with "tube" magazine back in the day. It was actually my first air rifle
I've got the magazine but the rifle seems to have disappeared.
I had the single shot Paratrooper as my first air rifle.
The Gamos has become VERY good these last years. Many great Swarm model rifles by them out nowadays. Might easily concider a Gamo if ever want to get a multi-shot break barrel. Gamo do have nowadays some hard shooting break barrel rifles..
But my old Crosman Phantom has been more than enough of a break-barrel for me, so it will do for the time being at least. Never really concidered to start collecting break-barrel rifles. Got more than enough of replica airpistols already (Yea.. who am I trying to fool with that..🤣)..
Did actually wake up before 5am(3am UK time), to empty a couple of magazines with my Sig Sauer Virtus again before my work start at 6...
We sound the same lol, i've got 2 CO2 replica pistols and the cheapest springer chinese springer.
Now don't get me wrong i do like my humble budget springer but sometimes i look at the Gamos or other quality springers and think : "you better not start collecting springers!"
For the case of the CO2 pistols, i think with 2 i'm good for a while.
Gamo rifles are OK. I wish Gamo pellets were as good...
Man! this is The Thing! Crikey! Some guys at GAMO got it right this time. This thing ought to sell very very well. (Hell I bought it)
I'll tell you this Andy: I saw a 20-something kid in America review his. He got it by simply going to Wal-Mart and buying the "most expensive air rifle" the store had. Totally clueless. Well he lucked out in my opinion. So, I decided to dig down on this gun and that's how I found you, which is what I really needed. Not some youngster. The "game changer" (hate that expression but it fits here) is, of course, the 10 pellet magazine for...wait for it! a break-barrel??!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK Andy. Here's the thing. The scope which comes with the rifle is spot on. You hardly need to sight it in. Even The Kid was close. He had to adjust it slightly and then he was hitting the center of the target just like you are. This is incredible! Really. The effing gun is perfect right out of the box. I'd be nervous if The Kid was having a good test and you didn't. Or vice versa. But so far it's 2 out of 2. Crikey!! I'm gonna buy one.
Oh almost forgot. GAMO thought to sell it with a Real Wood Stock. Not that nasty plastic thing. The Varmint wood stock is just what I wanted, as an old timer (I'm probably your Dad's age). I've never gotten used to the modern materials deal...you know?
P.S. the American model is 1,000 feet per sec (w/ alloy pellet). That's rated at 17.70 ft/lbs or 24 J.
UPDATE: I just purchased mine from GAMO direct. $149.90 + $18.98 FedEx + $14.86 Tax = $183.74. Sweet!
Bought this as my first air rifle in 30years and i absolutely love it, your review is spot on, its a great rifle, for all round use and always puts a smile om my face
I just bought my first air rifle in...wait for it Taz...60 years! I was 14 then and am 75 now.
I bought the Maxxim Elite Swarm with a wooden stock about 2 weeks ago. It is essentially the same rifle, just with an adjustable cheek piece and rubber grip inserts. It chrono'd at my RFD at 11.9Ibft and is incredibly accurate once zeroed in using JSB Exact Diabolo pellets. It's a really well made Rifle, nice and lightweight, well balanced and lovely to use! I have a had a few squirrels with it and recommend it highly 👌
I’ve been testing a few pellets on my gamo swarm hunter in .177. So far the daisy flat heads have been performing best. I like the 10x system that allows you to test 10 pellets at a time. I bought an extra cartridge just for that purpose. Great review!
How much you pay for yours? I'm finding best prices at £290
@@199compoundI just purchased mine from GAMO direct. $149.90 + $18.98 FedEx + $14.86 Tax = $183.74. Sweet!
Bought one in November..Great accuracy & a pleasure to shoot..
First time that I’ve seen a springer with a magazine. 10 out of ten Gammo.
Gamo have done it before (40 years ago), I have an ASI (the importer for Gamo in the UK) Paratrooper Repeater. It has a tube mag feeding a pop up breach. It was a bit pellet fussy as the pellet length had to match the depth of the pop up, and you could only really use domed diabolo pellets, but it worked well enough. It was also offered in more traditional wooden stock and sold as the 'Sniper'. There is also the Artemis SR900S sidelever, with a rotary mag.
@@engineeredlifeform well I thank you for the information. Even at my old age I can still learn new things. Much appreciated.
IIRC there was also a BSA springer repeater back in the early 90s?
@@marty8535 wow thanks for letting me know.
Wow a air rifle with a barrel that breaks how sarcastic
the rotary feed is great brings back memories of the asi paratrooper repeater
great review as always! that looks like a pretty decent gun! and hey, having that big spring in it eliminates the need for air refills, fittings, tanks, adaptors, etc. a nice self contained unit. and the difference between filling it with air pressure or cocking it shouldn't be a deal breaker. after all, in the end, you're just pulling a trigger to deliver some air pressure to the back of the pellet. the pellet doesn't care where it comes from. ;)
This video has just reminded me of a multi-shot air rifle I owned alongside my BSA and Dianna in the early 90s (oh, and I’ve just remembered I also had a Weihrauch side lever). Anyway, the multi-shot rifle I had was an absolutely awful Chinese thing. The stock was more orange than wood colour but as it had a 10 or 12 shot magazine it appealed to me no end as a 13 year old lad! I can’t remember exactly if it was a break barrel or side lever, but instead of working in the same way as the Gammo in this video, You used to use the barrel/lever to pump up a little air cylinder and then manually turn the magazine. It was the worst thing I have ever used, seen or heard, so it was good to see the idea being used in a gun that doesn’t look like it was plucked of a tree!
I guess that's their modern answer to their EXPOMATIC model with the top-rail tubular magazine from the 1980's.
Mine hits harder than what he says no doubt. I'm in the USA though. Mine says 800 with lead. And my rifle was dead on within 2 mags. It really does shoot so dang good. Feels good in hands. I can't say enough good things about this rifle. 134 I paid
I'm so glad there was a review about my first rifle I'm about to buy!
My first since my old Benjamin .177 when I was a boy 65 years ago. I've been watching some of the iguana hunters in Florida, and then looking at various makers and models, in a half-hearted way. Watching various reviews. Saw one this evening (see my review above) and that led me to Andy.
I have the predecessor to this rifle the Gamo shadowmatic,177,10 shot tube magazine feeding a rising and lowering trapdoor. Yes,its a bit noisy but its a powerfull rat basher all day. Been super reliable too,had it for well over 10 years! Nice review of an updated version!
I have the updated version called the bone collector in .22 cal with wood stock $319 in the USA 🇺🇸. I made a moderator for mine see on my channel and it works . Thanks Andy . Peter
Ace review. I really like the look of these. It would be great for my dad that due to arthritis now struggles with the awkward loading on his 177 Walther LGU. Gamo, for a long time have been alot better than what people give them credit for. My old 2006 Gamo CFX still puts out 10 foot pounds on the original spring and is every bit as accurate as my LGU, plus its much, much lighter.
Perfect rifle in my opinion, the synthetic is light, nice grip, accuracy perfect, and the magazine just the cherry on the top, in my opinion this is the best rifle you're going to get unless you start paying silly money, i prefer break barrels anyway, outstanding gun, wouldn't be bad at twice the price.
True that.
Gen 1 Swarm System doesn't have "recoil advance" so it is possible to double load a pellet. With the Gen 2 Swarm System they've fixed that. If they're selling that as new they're getting rid of some of their old inventory. Other than the low quality scope it's a great gun and I love the wood stock.
Neither does all gen 2’s, only the 33 mm piston guns.
I have a first generation Swarm and it is more than I expected in accurateness. The magazine reloading spring broke once and Gamo replaced it no problem with up dated spring and reloader for free. More often than not I reach for the Swarm before I go for my Umarex gauntlet which I do also enjoy using.
Wow that was nice of them.
I like gamos, I’m glad you reserved your judgment till after testing.
Glad you’re staying apolitical Andy! 👍🏼
Great review!!!
Gamo has already upgraded this system. In the GEN 2 the mag lays flat. And as a benifit it also has iron sites
Great vid again andy. That is some accuracy as well, especially with the arc of sub 12ftlbs .22 cal. The. 177 i bet will be like a *laser beam " with that flatter trajectory. Hatsan do a version of this called the Speedfire. I do love the build quality of Hatsans and you get alot for your money with Quattro trigger system, fibre optic sights, recoil reduction system and an auto safety and 11mm-20mm dovetails also. All the best from lancashire
Great to see your genuine joy in using a springer. Excellent review as always.
Good review as ever. Kudos for recognising the insensitivity of reviewing the AK. The Varmint looks a fine gun, though I would have to have my Walther LGU ripped from my hands before I'd buy one. That said, the Varmint is a big temptation. Seems that you've finally got the springer bug, Andy, PCPs are great guns, but springers are the real thing when it comes to fun.
how is it insensitive? its been used in every major conflict since the 1980s(the 74 model). if it wasnt insensitive to review it during the gwot in afghanistan why would it be now?
@@RekzysTheTitan Aah, I used to think that you went on for no good reason about some of the posts you get, Andy. I was wrong.
Got a gamo swarm varment powerful and very accurate Great rifle for the money 😊
Would you recommend it
I'm glad it's got instructions on the correct way to put it in. Putting it in the wrong way and cocking it would cause all sorts of problems.
This was my first gun, It is a great gun for a beginner ! Started my obsession.
The person that sold it to me said. When your comfy and want to upgrade, bring it back and you can part exchange.
Crazy guy !! You don't bring your first kid back, when you have a second one 😂
That 'out of the box' grouping at 40m with a .22 springer is amazing, even without the autoloader gubbins! Looks like a good reliable system though being a bolt-on, looks clunky. However, having proven the process hopefully they can get it looking slicker with future generations. Hell of an outfit for the price. If they can do all that for
I don't think you can buy the bare rifle anymore, just the package as it's not a shop package but a Gamo out of the factory package.
Nice review Andrew , people don't realize how accurate the Gamos are now days. I'm here in the states and my magnum gen 2 is very accurate and up to 29 fpe. My original magnum .22 not as strong ( 24 - 27 fpe ) but insanely accurate with terminators .
I have not use mine in years but I may take it out today.
It's loud and packs a punch!
Well done Andy, the one I was waiting for. Really enjoy your reviews.
I have a Gammo Maxxim Elite and i love it
Morning all . I still own an El gamo . 22 Magnum I bought back in the Seventies . It still fires well and just as accurate as it was whey back when .Relax enjoy the shoot you can't go far wrong with a springer .............. Nice review Andy keep them coming mate .
Had a Gamo air rifle, really great and value for money.
Good call, with the AK 🤔 like the other guy love a good springer me, always have ever since I used to drawl over the latest models when I was a lad,in our local gunshop was a real traditional good shop,but sadly no longer,but now we've got the internet,oh well ! nice video as usual, welcome relief.thanks and atvbDave
I REALEY LIKED YOUR SHOW ON THE GAMO VARMINT SWARM, THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERED ME IS ITS NOT A SPRINGER IT HAS A GAS PISTON NOT A SPRING, MAKES IT A LOT BETTER. I HAVE BROKEN A LOT OF SPRINGS SO I GOT A GAMO WITH A GAS PISTON AND NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR GREAT REVIEWS. JIM H.
Thanks Andy. I have this rifle with the synthetic stock. It’s good to hear an experts opinion on it.
I have the small game .22, I love my Gamo air rifle.
Delightful shooting , welcome back to gas piston springers
My first gun for a while was a Gamo whisper sting kit. Priced at £162.00 then for the complete kit, it has given me hours of fun.
I shoot mine at 30m and consistently achieve close groupings. I do find that it shoots ok out to 40 and 50m, but to be absolutely honest, I simply have better guns for these distances.
What makes the Gamo special? It is light, not just in terms of weight, but also the cocking mechanism. So for a couple of hours plinking and 67 year old arms, it is ideal.
This new gun, with the magazine, wooden stock and better one piece mount, looks like an absolute bargain and I would dearly love one.
In regards to Andy not being familiar with springers! Someone of your age Andy must have fired a few in your time. Combine that with being a pretty good shot in any event, your grouping with a new rifle seemed pretty good to me.
Another great review, but sadly not for me. I have a Weirauch 97k on order, a Weirauch 80 in my cupboard but I would consider this item if I ever sell my whisper sting.
Jus got this but it's the hunter version with no baffle jus a huge muzzle. Shoots great. 4x32 scope. Wish I got the 3x9x32 or 40. Update. The rifle shots crosman hp, rws extra point and round head exactly the same. No need to re sight the scope each time. Never in my life has that happened. So dang happy is this guy.
Really look forward to my Friday morning AAR Reviews! This is a real ground breaker for springers and I’m sure will sell in large amounts, another extremely well presented and informative video!👍🏻🤗
Hi andy i already own one but you described it as a spring gun when it is a igt inert gas technology gas ram and the trigger is plastic and not metal but as you said it is a budget gun and manufactured to a high standard of quality yes it is a bit loud and not really suitable for the back garden but for hunting and pest control that is not a problem i would recommend putting a ao scope on it i have the harke vantage 3-9x50ao on mine and it is perfect i am 60 now and first started shooting with a spring gun when i was about 12 but now i am mainly a pcp man the advantage a spring gun as over a pcp is that there is less to go wrong and you don't need take all the accessories with you so if you go camping and want to shoot a few rabbits for a nice stew around the camp fire then a spring gas ram gun is the perfect choice great review as always andy just one thing we are humanity hominids ascending from our true ancestors the great apes migration colonisation time evolution civilisation the material field the status quo but please remember not to give a chimpanzee a live hand grenade because it will pull the pin lol all the best mike
I got one, and a HW 97, 177, gamo 22, both good guns
My daughter (11) just started shooting. i got her the trusty daisy powerline 880. i had one , hell everyone when i was a kid had one. anyways i picked up the gamo varmint and sweet jesus. that thing is no joke. No tin can is safe at my house lol.
Hi andy, had one in 177, absolutely fantastic gun loved it, but unfortunately build quality is shocking, it was very accurate mine was gas ram, 11 ft pound, after 3 months dropped to 9, plastic breech block developed a fault, when striped packed with black grease causing desiling, cocking arm made a masive score on the gas ram, piston seal very poor, split when factory assembled, it was one of my favourite guns, i think if it was put together with better quality it would be a winner, mine is currently out of action thanks for good review
I got the .177 version it's great knocks the pigeons down every time 👍
Have a Gamo break barrel .22...gas ram , suppressed barrel, fibre sights, synthetic stock, was £85 a few years back, good back up when you run out of ar.
The Gamo break barrels are awesome. Fun to shoot due to the recoil and kick, accuracy, and price. The Bone Collector Gen 2 is another awesome gun.
Love the wood stock on that one 😁.
Andy when did u buy that model. I bought my first gamo by mistaken thinking it was the 10x type..so I bought another this time taking the time to look at it first..is ther a kit so u can convert the single shot to a 10x..????. I got both in real tree camouflage..both excellent guns but a moan about the difficult magazine loading
definitely one to add to the cabinet. hatsan also do a couple of similar versions. both break barrel and an underlever version. never seen one used though. that gamo is nice and accurate
It's a decent shooter ,I'm impressed for a Springer
Thanks Andy a good honest review of what seems to be a quality rifle.
I was a late starter to PCP, so from about 1958 until about 2009 I only used springers. My favourite being the HW80 which I used from the 80s until 2009 when I acquired my first PCP a BSA ultra I now have 2 Ultra’s. I still fetch out the elderly HW80 and let it air it’s lungs.
Haha , loved my old HW80 as well as my Feinwerkbau Sport. happy days.
@@andyb8501 I also had FWB 124 sport which was an accurate rifle but it was a bit of a B regarding scopes trying to walk backwards off the rifle, once an arrester block screwed on behind the scope it stopped its wandering backwards.
Is it possible to fit iron sights on the end of the the gun? Apart from that it looks amazing !
Ha cuantos JOULES !! De potencia está esa GAMO hay en su estado !! Saludos desde España !!
Excellent review as always although I'd love to know how the loading mechanism actually gets the pellet from the magazine into the barrell
Looks really good. How about if there was a jam, any idea if it would be easy to sort out? Also, any way to hand load rounds if in future the auto load system did go a bit wonky?
I have one of the older ones in .177, but side by side, I couldn't tell it apart from this one. Mine has been very accurate and reliable, although I have heard of some people having utter nightmares with them. It is very lairy if you get the wrong pellets, but if you stick with heavy and expensive, it's great. I really like mine, as does everyone else who's ever shot it, but I can appreciate there are quite a few out there that were knocked together at siesta time.
I bought the barricade atfer watching this. At that price - impressive. Even the supplied scope was quiet acceptable.
very good groups for the scope not mounted to the barrel - just make sure that thebarrel locks in the same place every time.
Something that I noticed about these rifles is that they have some problems in loading from the cartridge. I love them and have... not telling how many. BUT... I noticed that if you take the cartridge out when charging it AND THEN put it back in and breakover again slowly, it loads better.
And that's why I have more single shot breakovers.
An amazing, affordable, and accurate rifle! Great review Professor Andy!
Great vid on the strength of this I have just ordered my first air rifle it was the loading cartridge that did it for me will update when I receive my Gamo I canny wait 😀
Good morning Andy. I really like this rifle. It seems very easy to work with. Perhaps a slider reload might be a better option. 🤔
'Clear it into the ground?' Dry firing a springer?
Not being an airgun user, I find it funny to comment on the 'noise'. I use Centerfire .22 , 6.5 Creedmoor and 338 Lapua and those really make noise :). Great video, always interesting content!!
As my old springer (pretty much an antique really) looks like a write-off for consistency, I'm looking for a replacement. This is looking ideal.
Greetings Andy ! I've got something to say ? It's freezing 🥶 had heating on since I arrived back from the Sudan 🇸🇩 ..... Got around , even though I can't walk anymore .... Great tan as well ...
Great review Andy , fine rifle .. crack shooting...... it's a winner. .... take care 🙂 cheers Simon
I do love classic line rifles too, with straight lines, without belly under the stock.
Btw. You should try Evanix AR4K. Very compact, lightweight, accurate even at 100 yrds, fast repeating system, and classic feel wood stock.
Think this could be my first air rifle thanks for the great review
That’s a handsome firearm and a convincing review. Thanks Andy.
Great show and information. Like Gamo air rifle.
Haven’t these been around for a year or 2? I remember looking at something very very similar summer 2020.
yup about 2 years old
I think varmint swarm is new. Swarm Maxim was the one 2 yrs ago.
Andy you’ve done it again. I bought the GX40 on your review. Great gun and now you’ve forced me to open wallet surgery again.
Thanks buddy all the best.
PS the VS is a gas ram not a springer.
Great video as usual Andy, they are quality rifles worth every penny, I have the gamo swarm and it's fantastic quality for the dosh.
Springer on a bench rest is always a shock😂
Putting your hand under the stock will help a lot
The idea of the loader is actually pretty good hey
I have a similar rifle to that as well! Except mine is called the Gamo Hunter Swarm 10x .22 Cal
All features are the same!
Crazy to see one that has a different name. 😄
I jus got that version as well. It's really good so far. The muzzle is huge, the only thing I want expecting. I thought it was going to be like this look
We have a different barrel also. No suppression at all
Great review, thanks. I'm looking for a new springer for some light pest control around a smallholding, plus some fun plinking and reviews like this help no end. Might now be treating myself next week!
I just wonder about long term quality? How does it compare to a Diana?
Thanks great review, I hope the full power version is as accurate, I liked seeing you truly enjoying shooting, nice to see such an honest first hand experience.
Even though I wish you have reviewed the gen 2 configuration I am still extremely happy with having the abillity to watch the review from you !!
Thank you !!
Also for what is worth I do not have problem to see an AK review ... actually I would be happy
Little hack place a small sponge on the bipod or bag rest helps with the recoil an improves accuracy.
Hi Andy,
Thank you for publishing such informative videos. I was wondering if you can do one on red dots, in particular how to setup and calibrate the Hawke red dots. Thanks
As far as I know the raised scope mount also has an integral recoil reducer to protect the scope.
Are we forgetting the BSA Goldstar 10 shot? I realise this is a review of the Gamo, but thought you may have mentioned the stablemate.
The BSA used the older BSA tick tock mag, and had the typical (of its time) BSA kick. Apologies if someone has already posted about the Goldstar, I did scroll through the comments but didn't see it mentioned. The Silverstar was its sister rifle, which had a single shot Martini loading style.
Fantastic review as always. Please keep up the great work!
Other bsa was called superstar ,still got mine from new and shoots sound@11.4
Fascinating, I have a maxxim, a couple of years old now but I believe the it’s only a different stock. Really nice looking gun lovely finish and the magazine works really well. I’d like to be able to adjust the probe a little to get pellets slightly further in as the seal can catch. That’s the good stuff. I was new to shooting so was quite happy to be rubbish but I couldn’t hit a barn door. I was quite good with my sons AA S200! So I took it back and after the shop owner blamed the scope (it’s functional) and fitting a Hawke he came back 5 minutes later proclaiming he also couldn’t hit a barn door. 10 weeks back at BSA for a new barrel. (I bought a HW100 in the meantime secondhand) and now I can probably hit the access door in the barn door, with a Hawke fitted. I wouldn’t go beyond 25m - 30m with it and could just about keep a group in the black area. Competed with it recently at 25m and came 10th out of 12 shooters. Same day shooting my PCP came 2nd out of 20 shooters…. Recon I could have been 1st if I hadn’t rushed the last shot cos I thought time was nearly up. So Andy I think I might be the non sprinter shooter😏. Oh and none of my family think it’s easy to cock - muscles like Tarzan ( my other sons stoeger is much easier and probably a little more accurate, bought second hand for £100). I will persevere though….
I really like my Gamo10x. It's a USA model with nitro piston. But I wanted to ask you about Why on the cocking mechanism is it marked .21cal? Iv'e never had a pellet rifle marjed other than .22cal??? strange right?
I've had one for a year now and it's a good gun but it's too loud for back yard plinking.
I take mine with me to my permissions and use it once the PCP is exhausted of air.
They do benefit from having a better scope on them & fitted a 3-9x40 hawke fast mount to mine.
Good one Andy. Reared on springers and have a soft spot for them. Always fancied the old Theoben SLR. Try shooting the Springer off a stack of soft cushions just cradling the grip and stock enough to guide the rifle then allow it to recoil. Shooting from a hard tripod will not do any favours for accuracy. Good review mate
Andy, as always a terrific review.
Definitely will be added on my list
Why do make the difference between a springer and a pcp in terms of performance?