Skyrim Battles - The College of Winterhold vs. The Ebony Warrior, Karstaag, and Charstaag
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- I've gotten requests to put the Ebony Warrior against a whole guild. I picked the College of Winterhold because that's easily my favorite, plus some of their members are really good.
Since that's a rather fast round, I also added Karstaag and Charstaag (my modded fire version of Karstaag). It makes for a good comparison between strengths and weaknesses. Charstaag's stomp-induced firestorm is absolutely lethal here, doing high damage against many of his opponents. This is one reason why he does better here than Karstaag. The firestorm damage is actually lower than Karstaag's blizzard damage, but the firstorm happens instantly, giving the mages no time to heal unlike with the blizzard's damage over time.
Another reason why Charstaag has an easier time than Karstaag here is that the College has multiple strong fire mages (especially Savos, but Mirabelle is good too), while those are totally lost against Charstaag's fire immunity, and there are not many frost mages to make up for it.
Charstaag's weakness to frost and slow effects is noticable here, putting him into a dangerous situation of troubling to keep up with the swift mages dodging his attacks. The ice storms are remarkably effective against him, since they do increased damage, slow him down, and stop his healing for a while (usually longer than spells like fireball, because of the lingering frost effect on the ground).
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The College did way better than I expected
I’ll say!
Same, they were great!
Agreed!
I will say mirabelle with them fireballs was on point along with Faralda and savos I’ll give them three their props they was on it !
Oh yeah, the constant fireballs made a huge difference. Savos helped a lot too for sure!
The College is quite powerful when they are together, and in a small room it can be dangerous for one or multiple enemies
Mages are always more powerful in a group than the sum of each individual because of the AOE spells
You're both right!
Holy shit the college did Better than I expected !!! I’m very impressed !!! They destroyed the ebony warrior and karstaag Then charstaag joins in and that ends the story… But that huge fire resistance says a lot that charstaag has !!! I really loved this episode man props!!!! I can’t wait to see what’s next!!
It turns out they're not so shitty after all! I wasn't expecting them to win any of those rounds!
Thanks a lot, more videos are to come! 😎
Most of the heavy hitters in the college are fire based, so they can't do anything about Charstaag. Only two semi-competent frost mages.
@@Supcharged Indeed!
Charstaag has a lot of health regeneration
@@BobaFett66 He does! The exact same as Karstaag though 😄
This video proves that the College Of Winterhold are more than just a guild, they’re family.
Nicely put 😁
Seeing Arniel Gane bounce like he made of rubber was strangely cathartic..
Gotta love ragdoll mechanics in games! 😆
The College did better than I expected. That being said, The Ebony Warrior's loss is understandable as we've seen him struggle with multiple mage enemies before, especially if he struggles to close the distance to heal
Ebony warrior is so particular OP in higher difficulties because of healing. Shock mages= no healing spells.
He got DPSed by 20 enemies. Even he can't beat fireball spam lol.
@@JesusChrist2000BC tbf only about 5 people are heavy hitters, the rest either novice spells or charging in for melee because they have like 50 magicka.
I was honestly surprised how quickly he went down, with all his resistances and many of the College members not being powerful mages. But the sum was too much for him, especially when he can't heal. Plus the Frost Atronach's stagger at first really bought them some time
This is the battle we didn't realize we needed to see. Love these vids man, thanks for sharing them.
Such a nice compliment, thank you very much!! 🥳
I’ve been waiting to see something like this with the entire college against an enemy or enemies. I was not disappointed.
Awesome!! I'm glad you liked it! 🥳
Never thought Savos Aren knew the spell "These Hands" when he fought Charstaag.
Awesome battle!
Did you run into any issues while making it ? Because these are a lot of NPCs
One might say it's a useful spell because it doesn't rely on magicka! 😆
Thank you! 🥳
Oh yeah, lots of issues. The NPCs were working fine for the most part, but with so many at once, scripts can get delayed, such as Karstaag's blizzard not triggering in time with his stop. I also had to remove the central focus point for more space, and edit the navmesh so NPCs would work on the "new" ground properly.
The visibility is kinda bad in this video, with all the spells overilluminating the center sometimes, and Karstaag/Charstaag not being visible well. It was also pretty difficult to capture things behind the pillars without missing important kills. Overall, a rather complex episode, but I like how it turned out!
Its Epiq how both you and noiseless sorrow uploaded a college themed video in a days span
Wait, really? I need to check that one out! 😂
Great episode! Love when mages like the College of Winterhold get to team up together. I'd love to see them again and other interesting combinations vs the Hydra to see who can take them down finally.
Thank you, great that you enjoyed it! 🥳 I like the idea actually. 🤔 I just don't think the College will be stronger than the mages I already used against the Hydra. 😅 But I should try sometime. Thanks, cool suggestion!
Wow College blew everybody away. They are next level.
Yup, surprisingly strong as a whole!
Faralda: I cast fireball.
Phinis Gestor: I cast frost atronach.
Sergius Turrianus: I cast fist.
The mighty fist spell, incredible! 😆
you are awsome brother i was waiting for that.
Thanks a lot! I'm glad you like it 😎
3:09 poor j'zargo got his tail pulled out 😅
I was wondering if someone would notice! 😂 It happened quite a lot during the recordings
It would be cool to have a mod that lets you fight alongside Ebony Warrior or Karstaag against a huge mob of enemies. Maybe where you can load a character and then hit a button to spawn them. Have a mage character in the College and the Winterhold gets invaded by the Ebony warrior and bandit mercenaries.
I believe there are mods that can turn the Ebony Warrior into a follower, so that comes kinda close? 😅 Although the bandit scenario wouldn't be possible, of course
Unfortunately this is the only Skyrim battle video ever that I knew the Ebony Warrior was gonna lose, I expected him to survive a little longer but, I mean, I know how freaking OP the Ebony Warrior is but, putting him against an entire faction of powerful mages, even he wouldn't be able to beat all of them at the same time, it was also nice seeing Charstaag again, Great Video!
I was surprised he went down so quickly! All the magic and elemental resistance didn't help enough. And thank you! Also great that someone enjoys seeing Charstaag again 😁
Lol! Arniel Gaine said "Not like this..." and then power attacked Charstaag with a dagger.
We have do admit, at least he's brave 😂
Holy shit, I didn’t consider the fact if one of them dies another one could just raise them from the dead😂
To be honest, I usually forget about that too. 😂 Also about atronachs
10/10 very powerful battle
The College of Winterhold is the second most powerful guild after the Volkihar vampires interesting cant defit ? ebony warrior Charastaag and Karstaag
Volkihar vampires are different because many of them have no level cap. Otherwise most of them have no relevant perks or even great skills. They seems so powerful particular in patpauls videos because the uncapped npcs are level 252 and also vampiric drain is completely OP on legendary
Thank you! 🥳 The College is the only guild I really like
@Supercharged Exactly!
@@Supcharged I meant the vampires of the Volkihar clan Harkon,Serana,Valerica,Vingalmo,Orthjolf ,Garan Marethi and others
ye many of them have no level cap but The College of Winterhold aslo have a many of them have no level cap except J'zargo
How do these battles with NPC armies play out? Do they often have the same outcome due to their numbers, or do the battles have to be done over a lot of times due to the AI not always corresponding, with a couple of enemies messing it up?
Good question! This one was less chaotic than I expected. The Ebony Warrior never even got close to winning. With Karstaag, if Savos and/or Mirabelle die early, it's pretty much over for the mages. Most of them are really weak, and a few die within a few seconds from Karstaag's frost cloak already.
The Charstaag fight is somewhat similar, just with the frost mages being important instead. The fire mages get close to him first so the frost mages can stay back and put pressure on Charstaag for a while. Overall, I've had more problems with the location than the fights themselves.
@@lSlendermasterthe fire mages from college are stronger than the frost mages though
@@Supcharged Yes, true! The frost mages could keep Charstaag's regeneration disabled for longer though
3:10 lmao he cut off J'zargos tail
He got hit too hard! 😂
Como lo dijo Aela en su momento (la inferioridad numérica es aplastante)...
Impresionante el poder del Karstaag de fuego 😮
He's the nightmare of every vampire! 😆
I don't know who, but someone reanimated Nirya, I laughed like hell🤣
I can only assume that her power level is good enough for the novice spell Raise Zombie.
Magicka well spent! 😆
This was great! Do another faction please 🙏
Thank you! 😁 I don't think I'll use any other factions for now because I don't really like them, and they are weak 😅
damn mirabelle was standing on business fr
I honestly underestimated her 😂
Restoration is a perfectly valid school of magic
Someone out there needs to develop a skyrim battle simulator mod solely made for battles like this. It’s too fun not to.
I believe there are some mods that kinda let you do that, but they're probably rather complicated to use 😅
Hey there! Just stepped on your videos and they are great! I'm asking myself, is there any chance to let 2 creatures/NPCs battle against each other whilst they are on the same faction? For example chaurus vs falmer?? btw your tournaments are great!! keep going!!
Hi! Thanks a lot! 😁 Yes: Click on them with the console and use the command "setav aggression 3". This will make them hostile towards everyone, including their allies. Note that they will also attack you then, so be sure to hide somewhere first. 😅
As a little side note: It can be enough to only make one of those NPCs aggressive this way, but it can affect their AI a little so I recommend using the command on both to keep things fair.
And thanks again! I'm glad you're enjoying them! Many more videos to come! 😎
Wow, never knew about that console command before, thank you! looking forward to your next videos! :)@@lSlendermaster
@@jonaskonrad9173 You're welcome! 😁 Good luck with your battles! And thank you!
How do you spawn these characters? is there any specific mod to make them attack each other? I wanted to do the same but with my combat mods :)
Just get their IDs from the Wikis and use other console commands.
Basically what thatskeletordude5271 says. 😄 To spawn an NPC, you can use the command "player.placeatme", followed by their Base ID. You can deactivate the global AI by using "tai" and "tdetect". To make an NPC hostile to everyone else, click on them with the console and use "setav aggression 3". This only scratches the surface, as things can get very complex, but I hope it gets you started 😄
@@lSlendermaster oh, thank you very much for the explanation, and for your attention! much love bro
@@svddencabral Sure thing! Good luck with your own battles! It gets really fun once you get the hang of it 😎
I always thought Skyrim npc should get better combat ai. College could have better chance if they change their magic spell against different enemies.
Many of them only know a single element, if that's what you mean? Like Savos has no fire or frost spells, he just charges in with his fists 😂
Great new match😁
Thanks!! 😁
this test very good
Thank you!
Very good
Thank you!
Karstaag is like a raid boss, lol. AOE, huge health, big model, summons and slow overall.
Indeed! Have you played Borderlands by any chance? 😅
2:35 omg lol sergius is so weak.
4:08 Arniel was not OK, why did he decide to melee karstaaag. Absolute madlad.
5:06 Savos monkeybrain summons Dremora when it nukes his manabar and everyone wisely chose to summon Flame Atronachs.
5:47 Rest in Pieces Mirabelle ;(
6:14 Top 10 Saddest Anime Deaths
6:49 OMFG AGAIN XXXXDDDDDD HE MISSED TOOOO
You'd think that hed learn his lesson...
I think ebony warrior would have won if it was on the rooftop of the college, he got cc chained really hard and desperately needed more aoe
Arniel getting bounced off the ceiling had me rolling.
Some mages are programmed to charge in with melee when they're out of magicka.
If they can't hurt their opponent with spells, I suppose it makes sense to go for melee instead. But going for a fist fight against someone like Charstaag is still a very bad idea! 😂
Savos Monkeybrain, I like that! 😆
Ew didn't kill many mages since they surrounded him.
But I'm glad Karstaag is defeated, but with three mage or two remaining o.o
For Charstaag, I think it's due to his fire damage, and from the fight, three meters away from him, they all took fire damage o.o 🔥
Impressive !
He died surprisingly early!
I honestly was expecting Karstaag to still win this 😂
His flame cloak has the exact same range as Karstaag's frost cloak, although the firestorm is nasty because it does instant damage. Plus there aren't many frost mages in the College 😄
Thank you! 🥳
you are welcome @@lSlendermaster ^^
Also,the music you use, they are beautiful 🤩
@@judinatheargonianthief1385 Awesome that you like it, thanks! 😁 Finding good music is one of the hardest parts of making those videos 😂
every tiem I wnaty scream USE THE STORM ATRONACH at eb when he doesn't use it
Yeah, you need a mod for that 😂
@@lSlendermaster not really I do use a xbox mod follower mod that allows you to make anybody a companion to make him a companion and he uses that thing at the start of every fight it may be the mod but I don't think it is as th emod just let syou take anybody as a companion from civillians to ulfric changing nothing about their powers so the fact he uses means in game he uses that spell yet here the ai just forget it has the spell at all
@@blooddrawer He doesn't use it by default because there is a known bug about the conjuration spell. It's confirmed by me and other people 😄
@@lSlendermaster oh well that sucks
Go Mages!!! Hell yeah! They would've cleared if it was not for bad conjure AI that conjure once per fight unless they know multiple summons. Oh and I saw some necromancy too 👍.10/10
Mages are always cool to watch! I'm glad they don't conjure that quickly though because that would be broken as hell, since their opponents won't attack the casters. 😂 Thank you!
Thieves guild next 🤔
Nah, most of them are boring 😂
@@lSlendermaster dbhood?
@@callumtorrance9180 Even worse. 😂 The College is the only major faction I want to use for now
I'd like to see some videos with the npcs from sinister seven mod
I've seen that mod, but it doesn't appeal to me much 😅
@@lSlendermaster ooh, fair enough. I honestly liked it.
In that case how about some modded dragon priests and dragons? I think I remember seeing a Konarik mod, and for dragons there's the deadly dragons mod.
@@irtendor5885 I've seen them in PatPaul's videos. Pretty cool in that sense, but not really for me. 😅
The Deadly Dragons mod has the Unofficial Patch as a requirement, which I don't want to install. I already have Diverse Dragons, but most of them aren't that great for videos in my opinion.
What's that Konahrik mod called? Is it Konahrik The Priest - A Quest Mod? 🤔
@@lSlendermaster Yep. That's the one. There's also that one mod which turns Alduin into an actual end-game boss as well. Deadly Alduin
@@irtendor5885 I don't really want quest mods in my game because I don't play Skyrim anymore, but if the boss is good and balanced, I might use him sometime for my videos. 🤔 Thanks for that suggestion!
I don't want any replacers of existing NPCs though, sorry 😅
companions vs college of winterhold
I'll pass, sorry 😂
College will easily win.
Well, the Ebony warrior, he is weak against magical attacks, more so than physical and most of the mages at the college do high powered magical attacks take for instance if the Ebony warrior was surrounded and blasted with incinerate from all angles, his health bar would go down pretty fast
The Ebony warriors got a resistance to shock though and other magical attacks. I don’t think he’s got a resistance to fire though and the only reason why he’s got a resistance to physical and other magical attacks besides fire is the gear he’s wearing.
And I write all this stuff before I watch this video I’ve been playing the game for over 10 years so I’m kind of a veteran player at the game, so yeah, I know the weaknesses to every character in the game
It's partly true, but I'll add a few things. 😅 The Ebony Warrior has a total of 60% shock and frost resistance, and also 60% fire as long as he has his shield equipped. I'm farily sure Savos is the only one here who uses Incinerate at all, but the combined damage from all mages, especially the AoE, was too much for him.
The shock damage also kept his magicka down so he couldn't heal. He's normally very hard to finish off, but here, it was no problem
@@lSlendermaster I didn’t say all of them actually used to spell I just said they could actually win pretty easily if they did most of them usually use adapt or apprentice level spells some actually use expert though
@@nightmaremaster7731 If all of them had good spells, it would be even harder for the Ebony Warrior to to anything, yes 😂
just curious why was ancano not included?
He's not part of College faction, I believe.
Yeah, him not being an official part of the College is the reason. And I didn't want yet another NPC in this already massive battle 😂
No way they've defeated Karstag...
I was surprised too! The fire damage was the main factor, especially Savos and Mirabelle 😄
не понимаю зачем добавлять этого кастомного Charstaag, это не порсонаж скайрима а фактазия одного отдельного человека.
Кто тебе сказал, что тут должны быть только персонажи Скайрима?
Modded creatures are common in Skyrim, and if they are well made, I don't see a reason not to use them. I've spent a lot of time on my own one, and people liked it. If anything, see it as a bonus for a video that would only include the Ebony Warrior and Karstaag otherwise 🤷
@@lSlendermasterwell, you could also have used idk miraak+falx ig