WALMART Has a $170 ($245 Kit) Brushless Impact Wrench?! Dyno Test
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2022
- P262 here: amzn.to/3evUyoW Our lifetime of *tool rankings*: torquetestchannel.etsy.com This month Hart of WALMART fame introduce the HPIW25 a brushless 1/2" impact wrench and it's not the typical price point you normally see Hart products going for. At $170 and 600 ft-lbs, it seems the brand is moving up market in some categories, lets find out if this is one that's worth it.
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As always, Torque who started this channel is working in product development for Astro Tools who also impacts (air). TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources! 
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One thing we didn't notice until now, is that the Hart's average power across a run is within 2 ft-lbs of the Ryobi P262. We've updated the rank chart with this info etsy.me/3G8j3QK
Hart power tools appear to be virtually identical to the Ryobi line, save how the battery slots into the tool. I primarily use outdoor power equipment, but in my experience Ryobi and Hart OPE show no difference other than color and (sometimes) price.
Why didnt you test the new ridgid with the Max output battery
Hey would you be able to test the hart with the new 6amp battery I am pretty sure that where they got the 600 torque figure
Can you do a Dyno run of the 18v Snapon 3/4 impact and the Matco 20v 3/4 IMPACT
I like my P262 but haven't gotten to test it on anything real heavy duty.
TTC, could you test the Dewalt DCF 840? I haven't seen any torque tests of this impact, and it's been out nearly a year.
Would be curious to see a side by side teardown of the ryobi and hart.
I’d be interested in seeing comparative tear downs on the sibling tools. Might be useful to know if any parts interchange and such.
Possibly ryobi/rigid/hart. But definitely not Milwaukee
Agreed. At this point durability is going to be the differentiator.
I love that bit there at the end conceptualizing a hart high torque lol
Same! Haha
The bad part about using a Hart tool is you'll be constantly faced with the reality that at one point you entered a Walmart.
Nothing wrong with Walmart. They are the cheapest for groceries and most everything else where I live. Walmart saves me a lot of money and I am grateful they are in town.
Yeah, when he mentioned people getting their groceries at Walmart, anyone else share the experience of only having gone to Walmart in the 90's and 2000's and there simply not being groceries? Wish it had stayed that way.
@@Banditt42 there is a lot wrong with Walmart the waltons are one of the richest families in America and they exploit and treat their employees like shit. They are not a company that should be supported. But Americans are more concerned with how cheap they can get their merchandise and not the consequences of the low prices they demand.
@@Banditt42 I’ve had the worst customer service time and time again at Walmart.
shopping at mega lo mart *feels so good*
Great updated model for sure. If you already have some batteries and charger for Hart it might be worth giving a try.
The Ryobi high torque is 160 right now with a free 4amp battery. Seems to be a clear winner 🏆 if you are in the 150 to 200 dollars range
Yup I love it so much and It’s my go to tool beater impact takes everything off
Unless I am misreading the HD ad, $199 gets you a P262, charger and 3 batteries !
@@olduhfguy that's a great deal if they are the HP batteries for sure!
The Milwaukee's size is one of it's best features. Mine has also held up great while getting a lot of use riding on the welding rig.
It's one of those "size matters" things. It's useless if it doesn't fit! Like that rigid with it's low hanging fruit always needing a torque killing extension.
Also makes you wonder how long a mal wart tool will last riding around on a welding cart or in a truck toolbox...
I really like the white and the overall looks of the Hart.It will go down in price without a doubt and I am sure a 199 kit price will be available soon.
just remember its only gonna be white until you use it
@@thenormalyears 😂
Just in time for Christmas
yeah they get filthy in no time, impossible to keep clean. But the best part is, they will probably go on an inexplicable sale eventually.
Black Friday is around the corner boys
Im a technician at Subaru and when I started I brought my hart impact driver from home and now a year later I still use it to zap on lug nuts every single service. I also have a hart vacuum at home because it was better than the random Amazon options and already had a charger and a couple batteries from my impact driver that now doubled at work and my drill that I bought when I moved into my first house to have at least something to use if need be. I’ve used both to hang several lights a couple tvs and pictures. The regular everyday diy kit that every home should have. They have been dropped, kicked, thrown and stepped on. Still work great. I have coworkers I have seen spend between 6 and 1100 dollars for impact wrenches with their main use being removing lug nuts because the way my work is setup that tool saves you 5-10 minutes per service. I just bought one of these for $170 and now save that same 5-10 minutes per car for literally 2-8x less money. Just wanted to give a prime example of why this tool is absolutely worth the money In some circumstances. Hope this helps other people make a decision on what tool they really need and how much they need to spend to get that job done.
i primarily use my Hart impact driver at work with a back up Makita for when needed. the biggest let down is the battery after a couple years. the new brushless stuff ive bought havent been a disappointment either. in my opinion they are great budget tools.
I'd like to see a teardown and comparison of the batteries that TTI is using. It is sad how each sibling has a proprietary housing but with possibly the same internals.
I needed a cheap impact driver for around the house. I found a Hart kit for $100, drill and impact driver, 1 battery and a charger. I've been beating on it for like 3 years now. It even works on my cars! Won't bust a lug bolt but it's a driver so I use the air for that. Honestly I don't mind the white!
I'd be curious to see a side-by-side teardown of all the brushless mid-torques that TTI produced across all their brands. That's all Milwaukee, Ridgid/AEG, Ryobi, and Hart brushless mid-torques.
Cool video, thank you for your hard work.
The Ryobi P262 can be found for $100 at Home Depot pretty often now
I have the brushed version and it's a beast for it's little price. my only complaint about Hart tools are the batteries and their life cycle. they don't last long but man it's the best, unless you want to spend 400 on the Milwaukee that's slightly better on torque. I ran through 20 different impact listings comparing and Hart is the best for the price.
First hart impact I used was from a buddy I borrowed used it trying to take this control bolt off all it kept doing was over heat and didn’t even break (it was the 1/2) now I have the earthquake from HF only used it for lugs so far but love it . I want the Milwaukee mid torque or high also if mine can’t break anything
Awesome video as usual! Hey TTC, I saw that craftsman very quietly put out a high torque 1/2" rated at 1000 ft/lbs. Any chance we see it in a video soon??
It’s literally the old dcf899 but red.
So glad to see this vid im a Hart fan boy people really underestimate Harts their quality to price its unbeatable
Great job on this one.
Really, if you are already in the Hart Ecosystem, with Hart batteries, this would be a great tool....
I've never had to warranty a tool from Walmart, I did find a 10 in chop saw from Hart that was $45 with the blade so I picked it up as a back up for the DeWalt 12 in and I'm impressed so far.... Half the weight with an LED guideline, fence and table are perfectly square. Even left it plugged up in a pop up rain storm on a job site... Thought it was dead throw it(literally) in the garage and tried it a few days later to find out it still worked. After this video I might give the brand another chance... Can always find Hart stuff on clearance for the batteries and chargers then.... Not that I need another battery platform... Milwaukee, Makita, DeWalt, craftsman, kobalt, Ryobi, Rockwell, Porter cable, Bostitch and Hitachi... No to mention chargers for the kids toys and the wife's electric yard stuff she had... Why not add another charger 😂
When you warranty Hart tools you contact them directly, i have had them send my replacment in 2 business days free of charge no questions asked other than shipping address and info
Thanks for making this video, I've used my Hart HPIW01 1/2inch Impact for about 3 years now on many cars working primarily on suspension and it has yet to be unable to remove a bolt. Glad to see hart release an upgrade, a substantial one at that. I really enjoy the hart lineup of tools because theyre cheap, and I buy everything second hand open box so I get about 50% off retail price, which makes it worth it for me. The hart batteries have held up great as well and have been cheap to purchase.
Hello again Torque Test Channel
Thank you for another Great Video 👍
I got the ridgid high torque kit on sale 2 months ago for 200 bucks. Not the octane but the new high torque version, 4ah high output battery and charger
I picked up the P262 + extended 3/8" cordless ratchet + one 4Ah battery + charger for $199 a few months back. I thought this was a fricken steal. Side note, found out recently that Ryobi is under Kyocera Japan...
I chose to be a ridged guys based on price and then looks. They have the best colors, u can’t deny. Turns out they also beat the competition in a lot more tools than you’d think.
The fact that y’all don’t take sponsors is amazing to me. That makes all the difference to guys like me. I can’t imagine how hard those offers are to pass up. I don’t give money to RUclipsrs, but I certainly will to keep you guys on the air. Keep up the ugga duggas. We appreciate you.
Hey thanks man! We dont need your guys' money, we've gotten nothing but support from this community while buying all our own tools. So we're going to continue to do so!
@@TorqueTestChannel You should get sponsored by a bolt manufacturer!
this channel is single handedly responsible for my bias to Rigid
I could see HART getting better over time like the HF stuff
Where the brushed hart really shines for me is the price. I got mine on clearance with a damaged box for literally $30.
I dont need to use it often but when i do its handy. And for that use its perfect, a cheap way to deal with nuts and bolts faster than a rachet.
Worst case i upgrade and change brands to something more capable and keep it as a beater backup.
I gotta say that this channel has really confirmed my faith in Ridgid and Milwaukee.
I bought a Ridgid R86012 1/2 Mid Torque Impact wrench with a 4Ah battery at The Home depot for $199. It also came with a nasty scratch from the factory in the finish at the front of the tool. Not a big deal i guess, they’re made to take abuse, but home depot marked it down by refunding me $43 for the scratch, so i basically have a New Mid Torque and a 4ah battery that came out to be $157 before tax after the mark down. What a deal!!!
Fantastic channel
take it apart, wanna see the Hart of the tool and the brushes 😀
Thanks for your test channel - you provide a great service to your viewers along with the Project Farm Channel.
One set of tests that would be useful to your audience is to test the relative strength of open end wrenches, closed end wrenches, flare nut wrenches, short sockets, long sockets, and various socket extensions. This test information would allow your viewers to choose the correct tool for the job.
Thanks
pf just did a torture test on ratcheting wrenches
@@denisrhodes54 I watched that test -- that is what generated the comment. The purposed test is more about wrench/socket type vs brand. The purposed test would show your viewers what wrench or socket to use on tough to loosen hardware. Thanks for the videos.
Interesting. Good to know that it's not as tempting as something I already own batteries for.
Sorta feels like whatever is on sale/you get a good deal on, is what you should go with. TTI produces good products, but so many brands coming from them now.
SEC needs to put pressure onto the Chinese government to break up TTI, they are a monopoly. Worst SEC could do, is ban them from being traded on the US stock exchange. Which would effectively make the corporation tank in stock price internationally.
would really be nice if they'd ditch having 30 different battery shapes across all the otherwise-basically-the-same tools
How about a best torque wrench test video, accuracy and price, great videos keep them coming
Nice! This just solidifies my belief that Hart should be a top consideration for RV tools. I'm going to have to add one of these to my kit.
@TEXT+①(⑤⑥③) ②⑨⑥-④①⑥⑥ Ooooo, I love me some "Interaction", lolz
I've had some ecno-drills which gave good performance, but the batteries crap out sooner, which seems to be where the cost-cutting is.
Get adaptors to use Milwaukee batteries. Imma do that with .y ryobis when the batteries die cause Milwaukee's are better to secure anyway
I use the old 3/8 hart impact been doing me good for a good while now
I've used the Ryobi P262 EVERYDAY since it's launch at my Chevy dealership.. the mid torque half inch drive is way more convenient than the high torque I never take the high torque out of my drawer.. 95% of the time the high torque is just too much to lug around for no reason I'm a heavy diesel mechanic in the mid torque is the most fitting tool I have.
Craftsmen rp high torque officially came out today so should be able to get it now
I've stuck with Milwaukee for years because of the quality (with noted exception of the recent high torque), but more importantly they don't change battery formats every few years. When I first started buying cordless, I bought Crapsman (before Milwaukee made anything cordless), but was so frustrated by the fact that after getting a few tools, they would change the battery format so not only would there be no new tools, but over time it would get harder to get new batteries.
Would love to see how the Diehard brand 1/2" drive 20v impact wrench (from Advance Auto) compares to these impacts. Retail is $129.99.
I just bought the Ryobi high torque impact with a 4ah “HP” battery on sale for $170.
I would have liked to see the p262 in this video.
I already had many Hart batteries so I went with the brushless 1/2 inch
1:55 I like the color scheme tbph. Yeah itt'l change color quick but it doesn't look like a unicorn vomited on it either. I have their cheap ass 20v drill and it's been a pretty good bit of kit, though admittedly I bought it for working on RC airplanes so the heaviest load it ever has to deal with is drilling through 1/8" thick hobby plywood.
Yes the video I've been waiting for, I just nabbed one of these today, seems pretty beefy
Walmart has stepped up a bit with the hart line of tools, including the hand tools. Professional use, possibly, but more geared for the homeowner who wants something better than the hyper tough crap. I have the hart 40v chainsaw, and it cuts through anything I have thrown at it, even downed a couple bigger Aspen trees without any issue at all. Can fill my pickup with a topper full to the top with 5 foot long logs on one battery, and then cut all that up into usable 16-18" logs once home on another battery. It works pretty good as a backup to gas.
The price makes sense. Being that they're from the same manufacturer with a bulk of the same parts.
Just run the 18V Ryobi on 20V and it is the Hart.
There are some places poorly serviced by the likes of HD, and I guess this makes sense for hart owners. I still struggle to understand why TTI won't just sell ryobi and other brands in more places, is it really that strong of a pull into HD? I have to imagine they've run some analysis on this, but sometimes I question things, there's surely some cost there but there could be another strategy (Is this brand also diversified?). Product is a weird field sometimes.
Exclusivity is not an accident. I can't verify it but Vince from VCG mentioned specifically that when EGO left HD they called on TTI/Ryobi to fill that gap. I've had several HD employees mention specifically the exclusivity of Ridgid and Ryobi to HD. The retailers are not just passive merchants selling whatever comes their way, they pick and chose what they want.
So yeah, Its more than likely just contract exclusivity and the money that greases that wheel.
Interesting you mention areas served. The only Home Depot within 70 miles and Walmart within 40 miles of me share a parking lot.
HD got me into power tools with ryboi. Now I’m dumping all my money into Milwaukee tools. They know what they are doing bro.
I hate HD. So yeah that is why hart over Ryobi. Lowes I prefer for higher grade tools.
The high torque resize in MS Paint got me good.
Nice to see many companies stepping up their game. However it proves that if you're not going to get top end Milwaukee, DeWalt, Makita ect then Ryobi maybe Kobalt are still the best buy. Why buy Harbor Freight brands or Walmart Hart when they could easily axe those in the near future. Nothing against them just saying.
With the 5 year warranty they just slapped onto the brushless Hercules stuff, 3 year for batteries, and the performance the new impacts put out is making HF a much more serious contender. I’ve got my most important tools in Dewalt and Milwaukee, but I’ve filled gaps with Hercules and Bauer, and been pleasantly surprised.
Harbor Freight knows they can get good money by expanding and partially filling the sort-of 'introductory professional' stuff. Tools good enough to be professional in use, a bit cheaper than the other guys, and at a convenient place that doesn't need a van coming around-that might not even always show up depending on vacation days. They can always then be upgraded later on, or simply kept until they break. And in this case, they won't break for quite awhile, which makes them even more attractive as their quality does seem to be quite a bit better nowadays.
Harbor Freight's just as likely to chop their lines of power tools as Craftsman is theirs-it's been a mainstay of their product line for years, they make good money on them, and customers are happy to buy them. Why mess with something that works?
As a sidenote, yes, DeWalt and Milwaukee and all the others can be bought at a bunch of stores-but how many of them will warranty it out by handing you a new one in its case?
For casual users the Hart brand as a whole is pretty solid when you add in their lawn and garden tool selection. You can purchase a push mower, a few drills, wrenches, saws, and a trimmer with 4-5 batteries and a couple chargers for the price of a Milwaukee 18V mower and you don't have to fork over all the money at once.
Not bad for hart and the 19.2v craftsman used to borrow everything from ryobi except the 1.2 volt upgrade
Hart has released a 6ah battery. It's already in stores.
The brushless tool-only is at my Walmart on clearance for only $40 right now. Hell of a deal!
Great videos. You guys haven't looked at pneumatic right angle impact wrenches for awhile and I was wondering if you're going to get back to it. Astro is making a flex head (Model 1834) along with the regular Model 1832 you already tested and I'd love to see how it compares. Thanks!
Same as the Matco we tested
I often pick up Hart tools at 50 to 80 % off on clearance, and I also pay less on eBay as open box items. Hart tool may not be as good as the professional tool but fantastic DIY option, save money so you can buy more tools and let's be honest the Hart bits are a great value
where? on the walmart clearance isle?
The hart brand is also a test bed for the a new battery platform for ryobi. And before became walhart it was an all American made hand tool company.
Hart is coming along though...
they have been steadily expanding their line... their OPE is surprisingly good...also if you're not a fan of the Ryobi batteries which a lot of people aren't Hart is the next best obvious choice (in that same level) in my opinion...
Kinda funny. For shits and giggles a few years ago I bought a handful of HyperTough 1/4" hex driver impacts for around $6 on clearance in January.
Guess this is why, they went to Hart.
@@ObservationofLimits And that's what would worry me about buying hart anything battery powered. Most likly going to disappear sooner then later, and by that I meen Alot quicker then any of the more main stream brands (yellow,red,blue, orange or even the neon green one). I look at all the harbor freight cordless tools the same way, it's the battery long term availability not nessacerly just the tool. Plus the prices of these cheap" ones are getting close to matching the top of the line stuff. Not to mention warrantys.
For S and grins y’all should see if the Milwaukee M12 spot blower with the new HO 5ah battery compares to the Ryobi 18v model on the list!
I think tear down of the tools should become part of the testing. When one manufacturer is making a group of competing tools, it would be nice to compare the similarities of thier builds. Also since what happened with the Milwaukee revision, it would be possible to tell quality of the build.
It'd sure be interesting to see how the Stihl BGA 200 does!
Do the new mid torque and ratchet from porter cable over at tractor supply. Love the channel!
Please do a video comparing borescope cameras!!!!
I’ve had a hart brushed drill and driver for over a year of framing. Still white and working. Sticker was gone within the first 4 months tho
I am a Milwaukee fan boy :)
Would be interesting to see the numbers with the new hart 6.0 battery
You should test all the harbor freight stuff against eachother
for that i would take the hurcules
These guys are changing the market ! Love it
interesting to note that from HD, the 262 is still $179 tool only. So this price for the Hart seems to make sense when not considering 3rd party Amazon options. (the $135 option on Amazon is not sold/shipped by Amazon themselves)
I think the P262 was $179 with 2 batteries this past week too tho
@4:55 what you're hearing are the gears inside the tool.
You can buy Ryobi on Black Friday for a bargain price!
You should check out the "Car Impact Wrench TYAYT Electric Impact Wrench 1/2 Inch & 12 Volt Portable Impact Wrench" saw it on a Tyler Tube video might be a nice, odd ball to show case
Noticed that Lowes is carrying Flex, Makita, Dewalt, and Craftsman power tools but not Milwaukee. Supply Contracts must have changed.
Hart has released a 6 amp hour battery recently. I wonder if this impact would benefit from the extra power or not.
I can’t say how much but it would most definitely do better with the bigger battery. The amp draw is distributed better across the cells meaning less voltage sag that’s true of every brand.
Harbor freight commercial before the video tells me RUclips algorithm be workin
I recently saw a guy reviewing the same wrench and it was strong enough to take lugs off but the thing is it only lasted a year of hard work. So I think I would rather buy everything hart except an impact wrench
How do the batteries hold up though, that to me is just as important bc all batteries are expensive.
Rofl at the ending :D
Hi, I just saw this tool being mention by the "tool bear" and is right up your alley. Maybe you can check it out and do some test runs on it.
It's call "VTOMAN ToolCore V700 Impact Wrench"
And is in amazon
This is my first impact. All.I could afford really with battery and charger being extra. $148 for the wrench. About $220 all in.
I just want to know about Torque NM Value. If I use impact wrench only for motorcycle but it's 100cc scooter(VF100 or VM100N) Is it suitable for 100cc scooter at least over 500NM or 800NM? Sometimes I need to repair or replace CVT belt or engine parts. Also I'm looking for cheapest one.
You should test the new craftsman high torque
I think I saw HFT Hercules has some new impacts that could use some testing
One question, I bought that same Hart impact drill. What happens if I put the 20V 6Ah battery in it and not the 20V 4Ah one? Should I have more force or would that affect the drill?
Would you ever test makita to compare against other brands?
They said that rigid octane big boy impact is a monster and pound for pound 👑 what do you think?
have you ever tested the brushed milwaukee 1/2 impact the 2663-20 i have one and was curious what it actually does
will say, my hart impact is the only electric impact ive ever had that killed both itself and the battery pack at the same time. definitely not interested in buying more, as its not really cheaper and did not last me even an entire year.
they'll do the job they are supposed to do, until they don't. suddenly.
Getting Hartburn at Walmart
1:51. Makita had a 18v compact in white
I was watching this with some interest since I am invested in Hart 40V tools. I didn't see anything here to convince me to start looking at their 20V tools, though, since I'm fairly committed to DeWalt 20V tools already. I *am* in the market for a smaller, brushless impact tool - I already have a DeWalt brushed one that is quite mean but just too long for some work.
DeWalt DCF921 for sure then
@9:15 is what I imagine every tool company do in their meetings. "why don't we just make it bigger"
I bet black friday will be full of Hart deals.