The Real Story of Yip Man, Part Two | The Kung Fu Genius Podcast #80
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2022
- Alright peeps, on this 80th episode of the Kung Fu Genius Podcast, the KFG (aka Alex Richter) will be not be answering all sorts of hot nonsense from RUclips! Lots of gems, lots of part two of Yip Man’s history, lots of “a lot of Yip Man’s history!” Let’s get to it!
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Very lucky to see Li Man’s grave with my Sifu and hear the story on site. We swept the Grandmaster’s space together and this moment was very special.
I think that when Xu Xiaodong was fighting kung fu people, a lot of those kung fu fighters made excuses about why they lost.
"Shadow of Yip Man" is a legit movie title. Dre should get on pitching that to the studios while they are still hungry for Yip Man yarns
Kind of a Dreyson hypothetical for you. If Yip Man never came to Hong Kong, do you think Wing Chun would have ever seen the light of day? Would there have been someone else to come along or was the combination of Yip Man and Bruce Lee A Million To One Chance that could never have been repeated?
That is a great question. I’m not sure if I would have taken up martial arts if not for Bruce Lee & a need to protect myself better than I was capable . And I’m not sure if I would have trained in Wing Chun if it wasn’t for a school located near to my work. It was only when I started teaching that I was to learn my master was a student at Ip Mans school training under Chu Shong Tin. I knew who Bruce Lee was but all of the connections to Ip Man and Bruce to that point were pure coincidence and on reflection, great luck .
As far as if Wing chun would have seen the light of day, there were already other lineages of Wing Chun out there. Kwok Wan Ping of the Yuen Kay San lineage was in Hong Kong in the 50s and 60s. His sifu Sum Nung was spreading the art in Guangzhou, China but Yip Man definitely popularized the art and taught alot of students who then took the art to the west. The other Wing chun sifus out there were not as well known or just kept a more low profile in Hong Kong. The Bruce lee angle is very important. While these other Sifus had students who also brought the art to the west, they did not have the reach that Bruce lee had so their teachings stayed local to wherever they immigrated to. Who else would have come along without the Yip Man/Bruce lee combination to then popularized the art, is a very good question in mental gymnastics.
@@0352usmc1 great comment. It really opens up the conversation with regard to the subtle differences you can discover with research of the variations in Wing Chun . It also adds some further consideration to the stories of the origins of Wing Chun and Ng Mai’s development of the system . 🙏
Seeing Lee man’s grave and paying my respects was a surreal experience. So glad they refurbished his grave. 🙏🏽
I know a guy named, "Hip man." He's good at 'adjusting my back and hips
when I get a bit 'Out of whack' as a result of heavy bag kicking.
Haha
Awesome episode Mr KFG.
Again one of the best shows. especially loved the part about Chan Chee Man and he was really a phantastic person which I was lucky to get to know as well. hope one day you will release the stuff you made with him together. I have some footage as well but most probably you have a lot on him. keep it up and love to hear more from your insights. I just remembered that Chan Chee Man told me that Yip Man was really living under bad conditions for some years. even during Chan Chee Man early time with his sifu, Yip Man was sleeping on the floor with some poor cushion below or even only some paper carton. tough times and thanks to the old masters for still teaching wing chun
Great vid. Loved hearing more of Yip Man’s history. Loved the evolution of Dre during the show Sifu Alex at the end.
I love those Yip Man stories ! Go on !
-1:06 I’m just trying to stop my jkd guys from “Throwing fingers at people “ lol 😂🥊
Hello
Very interesting information.
I have trained Leung Ting WT here i Sweden for 25 years but never learned so much about Yip Man.
Thanks
You’re welcome!
Great episode. Something to consider vis-a-vis Yip Man’s (at the time) “unusual” idea of teaching in multiple locations might be his history & experience regarding his wealthy background; his family owned multiple businesses, in multiple regions, & it’s not a stretch to consider that a) some of those businesses might have been related (ie laundromats in multiple locations) and b) he may have, through home teaching or osmosis, picked up on the “multiple location business model”.
Will there be a part 3?
Magnificent episodes about Yip Man, I have enjoyed them very much, thank you for your work.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great podcast. Very informative! This and part one. Looking forward to hearing part 3.
Enjoyed hearing those stories of your time in HK. I spent about a year living in Kennedy Town and although I didn't have much time to train while I was there, just soaking in the history and walking the same streets as many of those you named was rewarding in its own right.
Kennedy Town was one of the first HK Island locations I learned in Cantonese - "Gin Lei Dei Sing"...
I love this episode.
My master told me Lok Yiu started before Leung Sheung. Chu Shong Tin eventually started after working at the restaurant union and observing the training for a long time. I learnt that Leung Sheung had been Chu’s first instructor. Great research KFG 👍🏻🙏
I've been to that temple too, early in the mornings of my last trip to HK 4yrs ago. I would pick a spot and practice my Chi Kung and WC forms. Didn't know it was a former teaching place for Ip Man. Thank you
Yay, part 2! Thanks guys! Another good one
Hello dear Sifu, love your show for all the incredible range of information, for the gentle informality and for your impeccable deportment. Having studied with Sifu Moy Yat where yum cha was encouraged as an important aspect of one’s development, privy to the stories and discussion for awhile. One discussion was just this issue of why did Yip Man not admit westerners to hIs class. The explanation Sifu Moy Yat gave was that Yip Man felt that westerners had taken everything else from the Chinese land, so he was going to keep Ving Tsun for the Chinese.
Thank you for your comment, I actually discussed this in the previous episode.
Not just Yip Man didn't want to teach westerners, a lot of sifu's from older generation do not want to teach westerners. They believe and they know westerners are bigger, taller and stronger than Chinese. If westerners learn real kung fu, there is no way Chinese can beat them.
Lee Man also has some great footage on RUclips. Some of the video taken on him he was 103 years old. Pole and wooden dummy. Very unlike Yip Mans forms but obviously passed on to him by another Sifu many many decades before.
where is that video of lee man.
@@LolitocatIt was a few years ago. Old black and white footage in his apartment. He was 103 years old. Demonstrating both wooden dummy and long pole. The dummy form went on for a very long time. Similar with the pole. I wasn't familiar with many of the moves in both forms. It must have been taken down . I've been looking since seeing your reply. Gone ..
Love how Dre first changes glasses, then t-shirt until he fully transforms himself. Very high Gung Fu skill!
step-by-step... just like Kung Fu!
Just wait...
We now know the real reason for what was described at 1:04:50. At the start of the fight, William Cheung was using Modified Wing Chun and was losing to Chan Chee Man. But then he suddenly switched to Traditional Wing Chun, and managed to win. (It's similar to the way Tang Lung changed styles in Way of the Dragon in order to turn the fight with Chuck Norris around.)😁
Makes sense!
Once again another really great episode, I'm looking forward to the third.
Another great podcast! Every new episode is like Saturday morning cartoons for me but as an adult.
Can't wait!
Great poadcast, very intressting storys. Thx for sharing 😊
Awesome podcast. I’ve been enjoying hearing stories about Yip Man.
Thank you!
Very interesting, I love this historical podcasts.
Glad you enjoy it!
Listening to these stories from this channel is more interesting than any documentary or movie.
Glad to hear about you paying respect to mr. Lee Man, and that his grave is refurbished although i've never heard about this gentleman before.
Absolutely fascinating to know THE history and history of these guys and this art. Well reported and informed, Bravo..and for once the questions were relevant..maybe because there were none 😉 from Dre.
Haha
KFG, what a fantastic episode. Most of the info, was news to me and well presented and thought out. Fascinating historical content, especially on the pivotal moments on Wing Chun and the Bruce Lee connection. I am also mesmerized how the smallest of details on what appears to be happenchance - turns out to be a sign of fate! Incredible attention to detail, thank you. Your story telling genius is of Extra-Ordinary Magnitude, you have my Gratitude! Cannot wait until the next chapter, spot on the details about the skillset of individuals as opposed to the titles and/or legacy and lineage positions that so many in martial arts hold on to. Bravo and continue the K.O. in stories Sifu Genius! And Dre sure packed on muscle in the last class, he went from Bruce to Bolo within the show!! Nice break of NOT seeing Dre swig his coffee like mouthwash! That is a secret move that injures me every time ;) Peace Out...
Thank you!
Did Yip every encourage any sort of physical exercise like pushups, sit ups etc to his students? I doubt it was part of the classes themselves, but I wonder if he ever encouraged his students to get in better physical shape, especially the one's that were fighting regularly. That being said I can't imagine him teaching a clean and press with the luk dim goon kwan lol.
Greeting mr richter, ip bo ching died in the 70s. So all this time i was thinking that ip ching is ip bo ching who only died fairly recently. Sir, would you know the wing chun history of Yipman's sons?
RIP Gene Le Bell
Hello Sifu Richter. I have a question - do you think it is worth doing a workout sometimes, during which I hit, for example, for 45 minutes. While I normally hit 10 minutes. Just take one exercise and beat yourself up in it. For example, choose kuen, pie jarn, kwai gerk, ching chan gerk and kill it.
Hello Kung Fu Genius! At my Wing Chun school, we have a picture of Ip Man in the horse stance, throwing a punch on the side. A good position, low, square, etc. And I'm trying to figure out how exclusive that would be. Even though my sifu tells us it is. After some research, I couldn't find anything on the web. Have you ever seen such a picture, elsewhere? Maybe at the Ip Man Memorial Museum, which I've never visited. Thanks KFG!
I have that photo as well. That is the arrow punch training which is a precursor to learning the long pole. It’s not for practical application. It’s a waist and stance training exercise for the long pole. Anyone who tells you otherwise it doesn’t know what they’re looking at.
@@TheKungFuGenius this is what my sifu told us. Apparently, Ip Man enjoyed this kind of exercise very much.
Dre with the sunglasses is giving me vibes of the third act of Game of Death (if you know what I am saying).
Dark thought but....I wonder if anyone ever fell from the rooftops during the Hong Kong rooftop fights in the 50s
If you watch my Challenge Fights episode from season 1 (I think) I discuss this. There was one death but I believe it happened in the early 70's. There is a Bloody Elbow article that discusses it...
-1:04 or the tippy toes 😂💯💥🥊
These profile episodes are good. If the fans are really taking to them like they do your ‘AMA’s’ and Bruce Lee segments, maybe you could do more profiles? Hua Yun Jia or Wong Shun Leung would be interesting.
BTW: Episode didn’t make it to Spotify. It was an old live episode in its place. FYI.
We had an issue with the audio version, I’m gonna re-upload it today
@@TheKungFuGenius No worries. I just watched it on RUclips, which was interesting to see because of Dre’s…metamorphosis?
No idea what you mean 😂
Audio is up!
I noticed on a map of Hong Kong island there is a street called Wing Cheung St.
I know that very short street well! There’s a swimming pool up there.
Dude this show deserves way more credit. I’ve learned from you personally so... I can only try to swing people over. Mine ffff blew up. I just kept trying... n trying. 💥💯🥊I still always stop by everyday. Part couple days was hectic cuz the RUclips went nuts. It’s exciting but I’m upset that some of my friends in the arts aren’t getting credit where credit is due. I noticed a lot of sloppy troll stuff .. kids probably. Ding dong ditch.
Hello Sifu Richter. I have question - to what extent Sifu do you think you should be doing the static exercises. so-called applications, where two exercising people make applications in place. Do you modify the applications in terms of greater movement, getting off the line?
Drey is the shadow double of Shane diesel
Hi. This doesn't seem to have made it to the podcast (audio only) format. Is that on purpose or can it be added? Like to listen on the go. Thanks!
There was a problem with the audio I need to re-upload it
@@TheKungFuGenius Thanks! You guys are great!
Audio is up
Well it's the usual cocktail of hot nonsense lots of banter.Plus some real nuggets.Thats enough about Dre.!
No doubt Mr KFG will be on his usual top form!
Another great episode! Thank you KFG for sharing all these anecdotes about Yip Man. Looking forward to 3rd part! When is a book on the life of Yip Man? Real stories instead of fake stories staged in the movies 👍
My master told us the story of the guy trying to hold Ip Man up with a pistol. The story was Ip grabbed the barrel and managed to swing to bullet chamber out of place. Most of his direct memories and stories were about his opium addiction. Ip didn’t do much with the students. Only the 5 senior students ( closed door students ) received guidance directly.
Hi sifu Alex my senior,was in hk about 30 years ago, he went to a lady sifu whom taught , chow gar and w c and she asked him to do forms he told, her he was from William Cheung and did his sil lim tao then she called him on it that s not William Cheung form and was pissed off , that he didn’t bow either, but what she did tell him she said yip man wasn’t the only person teaching w c at the time he was just the famous guy ,so I wonder who she was referring to enjoying this
I cheung things up n I cheung things down.. 😂⚠️🥊💥😉
Do you know of Greenville academy of martial arts youtube channel? If so what do you think of there view on wing chun? My two vidd of theres are the how to understand the dummy for begginers one and how you understand wing chun footwork
Hello! Thank you for your comment. Believe it or not I actually consume very little WC content on RUclips. If you saw with a RUclips algorithm shows me, there’s hardly any martial arts on there that’s not MMA. So I know of their channel but I’m not familiar with their content. Also in general I don’t comment on other RUclipsrs (unless we’re talking about frauds like Beerdy) - if you like what they teach and how they present things that’s really all that matters.
-1:02 I heard the same thing .. LOK
Very informative episode, Si-Gung. I'm very glad Mr. Lee Man was able to persuade GM Yip Man into teaching Wing Chun-especially from the way you pointed out a lot of people and things that we would probably never know had GM Yip Man NOT taught Wing Chun after moving to Hong Kong.
Is it just me or Dre is a shape shifter?
Great episode kfg 80. Obvious question do we know what did Yip Man do to gain the respect of the other kung fu masters in the early days of Hong Kong before the challenge fights and become quite well known when in China? Thanks!
Why can't we have a movie based on his real life? Basically your notes are the storyline. A Netflix series. Minor embellishments ofcourse to give more flavor .
Well done Alex! Excited for part 3! :D
And its nice to see you are wearing Adidas. I am German and this branch is still Nr. 1 in Germany when it comes to sport clothes. Many Wing Chun masters from Hong Kong learned to appreciated it too, like Sifu Leung Ting and Sifu Wong Shun-leung. Almost all of my sport clothes are from Adidas, very comfortable and 100% high quality cotton.
I think if Bruce Lee had visited Germany he maybe would have chosed a yellow jumpsuit from Adidas for his GOD movie. :)
Thanks! 😃
Sure! :)
Something else: You spoke in a Beerdy video about Wong Shun-leung's Gong Sau Wong book. I saw on Amazon it costs 74 Euro right now, thats 75 US Dollar. Of course thats expensive for a martial arts or Kung Fu book (even Pollys book or many of J. Little arent as expensive, by far not), but would you say its the 75 Dollar worth? Cheers :D
-1:05 ya doesn’t matter
In what minute the story starts ?
75th minute
What I was seeking for yip man as fighter, what you r saying is side stories .
What did you think of Kung Fu Wing Chun (2010) starring Bai Jing?
Didn’t see it
A channel to learn about and inform you about the history of Wing Chun. Thank you very much Sifu Alex Richter for your contribution to the martial community and especially to the Wing Chun/Wing Tsun or Wing Tzun family.
My pleasure
Why was the intro shorter? ☹️
We shortened the intro on the last few episodes… It’s RUclips algorithm stuff… People don’t have attention spans for intros
@@TheKungFuGenius Oh, man!
I really don`t understand the hype on this dude he was Bruce lee first teacher that`s like comparing my success to my first-grade teacher I`m pretty sure as big as China is there were many he`s hyped from all these IP Man movies with all the tricks etc. I believe people need to move on. Martial Arts is destroyed you see these glass front schools people and kids walking around with ghi`s on unheard of.
Based on your comment I’m gonna be taking this video, and any videos like it, down