KFG's War w/Leung Ting & the Van Damme Story w/Dre | The Kung Fu Genius Podcast #54
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2022
- Alright peeps, on this 54th episode of the Kung Fu Genius Podcast, the KFG (aka Alex Richter) will be answering all sorts of hot nonsense from RUclips! Lots of gems, lots of warring with Leung Ting, lots of “excuse me Mr. Van Damme… maybe next time!” Let’s get to it!
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Loved it. Since the start the KFG podcast never stopped improving, in every way. Excellent jokes.
Glad you enjoy it!
Awesome to hear my question read by Dre! Its a shame your HK movie segments dont do well because they're really entertaining in my opinion. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
When it comes to Hong Kong Cinema, I absolutely love yo listen to Bey Logan’s Commentary on DVD’s.
Oh my gods! I’ve got tears from laughing so much at those outtakes!🤣🤣🤣
You should have Dre put together another best of the outtakes for a short episode.
Another great episode, you guys are the best! I keep forgetting questions I’ve had for the AMA episodes. I gotta start writing them down as soon as I think of them. Next time hopefully.
Thank you!!
Another great one KFG
🤣😂 Shout it OUT LOL !! This is the best one ever LOL KFG ALL DAY
Thanks brother!
Awesome episode! :)
Round 3: Excuse me Van Dam sir. Can I have some more?! lol - Oliver Twist
Keep up the good stories Sifu Alex 👌
Thank you!
I was laughing my head off, on how Sifu Alex reacted to Van Damme's crazy response....
JCVD story was so funny. A great video. I only came across your blogs about a week ago. So I am working my way through all of them.
Thank you!
Genius. Next time I'm in NYC I'll have to go train with you guys.
Good, but when you come in for your lesson your ID better show your names as Whole Cosmos or I'm going to feel duped.
That dad joke was awesome!
“Kung Fu” is like a condom. If it’s too big, it falls off; if it’s to small, it breaks. Know yourself, protect yourself; but, invest in what fits your ideology or wallet.
Facts ! David Chin said that he was only covering for his boy, Wong Jack Man.
I laugh whenever you pull out the "Charles" voice on occasion haha! Anyway, great story about LT; the origin of the KFG name is epic!!! (The "Chinese" version of the name is PERFECTION!!!) I just want to know when you're going to publish a Cantonese for Wing Chun Course.
And Van Damme clip at the end... classy!
It’s a classic on my social media!
First time hearing you Alex... You are a talented presenter.
Thank you!
That blog you made years ago about LT "disappearing" you was where I first heard of you. Hilarious!
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Great video as always, i recommmand for every martial art "fan", following you guys for quite some time on youtube or podcast, I particularly appreciate the educational approach to making martial arts known and understood with honesty not avoiding criticism from the academic side. Although we can be both, many confuse fighter and martial artist, thanks to your channel, I hope many can discern the different facets of this art. Keep up the joy for sharing the knowledge and the good work.
I can only respect the one and only JCVD, always equal to himself and who never denies his reputation... and thanks to you we have one more proof 🤣.
if i may, i recommend you keep the phrase "maybe next time" for all "Dryson" non sens questions!
Thanks for your great comment!
I gotta hear this one again
Was already blown away from the, pretty much, confirmation that this exact same thing happened to my sifu. Told us Leung Ting said the exact same thing, that he had only trained for one week under him, then you mentioned the kiss of death, as they are literally posing together in a book I have from 1978, crazy.
Who is your Sifu?
@@TheKungFuGenius was Richard Guerra. Only learned Siu Lim Tao but trained under him for a bit. Was good enough for applying so I grew to love Wing Chun, been practicing it along with another style for some time. I haven't seen him in years though, since I've moved. Wanting to get back to a school even if I have to start over at my age, trying to find a solid place atm.
@@Armored-Cat hi. This is Richard Guerra. In Austin Texas. Now 71 . I am pending a right hip replacement. On crutches now and daily pain. Nice to hear from you. I watch Richter Sifu’s podcast here. Love his stories here about wing Tsun. Please take care of yourself. Thank you Richter Sifu for so much interesting wing Tsun related subjects. Wish you much success with your martial arts business.
Sylvester Stalone studied Tae Kwon Do with Muhammad Ali under their bodyguard and famous Korean actor Kwan Young Moon "The Left Foot of Wrath" in the late '70s
I think the van damme story was great
Could you please do an episode giving a brief overview of all the different Wing Chun branches that you know of. I've also seen the odd Mook Jong with two lower legs rather than the typical one, what do you know about these? Love your show!
Hi. Another great AMA! I listen to it during my workouts! Since you are getting so many movie requests I might as well add another to the queue and hope to convince you to do some more episodes on Kung Fu movies the way you did for the Ip Man movies. Movie: Kung Fu Wing Chun from the Wu Tang collection.
Werd!
5:48 “Defrocked” 😂
When I got into Wing Chun and started reading all the stuff about Leung Ting and William Cheung it got me interested in seeing what other Wing Chun systems were doing. Coming from a William Cheung school I heard a lot of shit talking about "Modified Wing Chun". I always thought it was obvious who was teaching Modified Wing Chun but I kept my mouth shut. It's always seemed to me that there is a lot of issues with Yip Man's students. These videos have been a big help there is a lot of stuff I don't think many people know because we don't have access to these circles. My Sifu had to go to Australia to learn and I trained on like two maybe three occasions with William Cheung here in Kansas. I was just thinking KFG have you seen Cheung's book My Life with Wing Chun? In his book he has some letters from Bruce Lee if I remember correctly im going to have to look again but im wondering if these are authentic. I have heard that supposedly Bruce thought highly of William Cheung but im wondering if this is really true.
Thank you for commenting!
Wouldn't it be awesome if that 'LOST footage' surfaces from ETD? That infamous fight with the extra who challenged Lee!
23:34 funny idea.. “Leung Ting leaves his own organization, n then discredits himself” 😂 “Leung ting only trained here for a week n quit” 😆👌💥🙏
I KFG! Love the podcast! New York stories are my best, by the way! A wooden dummy question for your wisdom. Often, I see people practicing their speed on the dummy. For me, it's more a technical practice, exploring angles, concepts, chaining, etc. How do you vary your dummy practice? Thank you!
Thank you for your question!
Bad Ass T-shirts fellas!
Hey KFG Team, congratulations on an awesome first year. Thank you to Sifu Alex, Dre, Dryson, and BFG. Gong Hei Fat Choi!
What do you think of the Saam Sing Jong (3 Star Dummy)? Is it something you train at your school?
Wishing you health and happiness to your family and all the team in the Year Of The Tiger.
Thank you! Gung Hei Faat Choi! Great questions.
Damme that was good Mr KFG.
Twice the Van Dammage
Would really like to see an episode on the Ed Park demo bruce did. Like with the phone conversations I'd love to here what you guys think of Lee's sparring.
There's a RUclips video of LT on CGTV, calling him the "wing tsun king." So there's a good possibility I'm going to be one of the last students to learn from sigung Wai Hong, maybe when I complete my training I should call myself Tiger King. Lol! Anyways, have you ever discussed or had any thoughts about Master Wong?
Two _Wongs_ don't make a right...
@@dududu5189 there sum ting wong? 😂
2:26 “E-BUCK NU-GUCK” ✅😂
6:13 they got DEFROCKED
The question that is NOT a question: Hey, KFG say some 💩! 🤣
It will.. it’s gonna blow
30:20 I had this problem and found that it was my times were off.. morning 9-12 best post
Thank you for answering my Trovador Ramos question. There is a whole explanation of what happened and how Ramos’ Tracma Fighting Style and how he used it to beat Bruce. It’s one of the funniest things I’ve ever read. If you want to read it, I think I have it and I’ll send it if you want?
Not necessary, that’s like doing deep dives in Frank Dux’s story - one day I’ll be one minute from death wondering why I spent time on nonsense like Ramos.
Damn!!!! dope shirts!!!!
Thank you!
Love the show, Sigung. When a new student comes to your school, what mental and physical characteristics indicate to you that they will be a good WT practitioner? Can you tell from the first lesson if they will be successful?
Great question!
No.. I’m gonna guess.. but the way my teacher does it, you start on the mattress .. fook sao
Jeez, sorry I comment so much, but I get fired up from my add.. lol Iike Gary Lam Sam Kwok, Yip-Fook-Choy and Wong-Sheung-Leung .. Leung ting definitely.. other than that I get my full study in shaolin because of things deriving from there first.. so I look for the history
3:56 I learn from Alex.. so he is a genius to me
For some reason, I'm picturing JCVD talking to BML on that day you saw him ("Big" being the clue).
Hahaha that would have been funny, but no… he was talking to someone of the female persuasion.
“Guchasi” lol
36:45 on point
31:00 love mantis
Thank you for stating (in regards to the Wong Jack Man fight) that "It's another guy who doesn't want to be there."
Yeah, Wong Jack Man's entourage were a bunch of young punks(!), most of whom were barely out of their teens, who most likely talked him into it, since the Chinatown martial arts community actually wanted to ignore Bruce's unfortunate remarks at the Sung Sing Theater. (Well one of the three with Wong Jack Man was a kid nicknamed "Ya Ya" Wu. That nickname is descriptive.)
And at the time, Wong Jack Man's understanding of English in 1964...wasn't the best.
Relating that is despite the various narratives (by the Lee Estate) that it was an "official delegation sent by The San Francisco Kung Fu Community to stop Bruce Lee from teaching whites!" (The exclamation point is deliberate.)
That's why I dig your show. You don't engage in the bull...oney. ;-)
Awesome episode. I would be curious to hear about Bruce Lee’s training philosophy and how his philosophy evolved through his lifetime.
Did you see my episode with John Little on Bruce Lee’s training methods? You might find it interesting.
Thank you 🙏
There are secrets in the Kung fu.. by learning and pressure testing the basics .. we gain trick hands .. I’ve got some ill shshsh
For the first time in my RUclips experience, I am clicking the "set reminder" option
Appreciate it!
According to Trobador Ramos, they merely exchanged ideas and techniques.
I feel Mr Ramos probably changes his story like underwear.
This Ramos is so slow and wooden, by the time his attack arrives, even the spectators have all gone home from boredom.
I think Bruce Lee have could kill Raymond Chow with one finger.
Even Raymond Chow would beat this Ramos.😂😂😂
What should Bruce be able to learn from that, probably tell me a lie!
Verbal Diarrhea-- LOL Never heard that before!
“Excuse me, Mr. Van Damme” story-- LOL Oh, man. What a bummer. I don’t know what I’d have done. I’m a huge Van Damme fan. Actually, I named two of my four children after him: Jean-Claude and Chance (from Hard Target). Currently working on a YT video titled: Why I Love Van Damme. BTW, hopefully one day I will also say: “Excuse me, Mr. Van Damme” 😂
AMA not to be confused with MMA! Haha Noice!
Looking forward to this one ,bet its got more gems than Tiffany's!!!
Did Emin Boztepe fight William Cheung due to B.S from Leung Ting?
No.
Great explanation about people who are unhappy with their level of ability and cafeteria skill shopping through schools. Have seen a few guys like this. Full of name dropping and mediocre knowledge and very little skill. Typically they know it all and it must be the school they are at. Not the lack of effort, humility and pressure testing. If you plateau on a positive point (skills exceeding your brothers and sister)and can find no help to break through, then it made be time to venture out.
Absolutely agree!
Can you address that situation with the demo that Bruce did with Vic Moore (punch/blocking demo)?
Thanks for commenting
@@TheKungFuGenius "Vic Moore" as Dre would say is "Full of Hot Nonsense..." haha
Plus emin was much younger I feel like leung ting was scared to fight William
To be fair, William had posted an open challenge in Combat Magazine saying that he would take on anyone any time any place at his seminars. So he kind of asked for it.
Didn't know that brother genius
Most people don't know about the background of this fight, but that doesn't stop them from talking. There are bad decisions on both sides and no one is blameless.
59:00🤣
COOL!! Maybe next time we willl see Ting vs. Keith vs. Boztepe vs W. Cheung vs. everybody!!
Have you tried retrieving the old website from web archive org ?
Spoiler alert: i’m kind of done with the topic and don’t care.
Another great podcast
Thank you
But was GGM Leung Ting not in the opening of GGM Cheung Chuen Funs first school?
I don’t remember what I talked about in this episode
@@TheKungFuGenius you said GGM Leung Ting discredited GGM Cheung Chuen Fun his oldest friend, when he did his own thing?
JCVD said Maybe Next time! But KFG , you're my hero. You're the Best ;)
Thank you!
Good stuff Alex been missing in action due to covid recovering but all good back in training
Enjoy it!
Can’t wait, quite the teaser. I hope it lives up to the title. Let’s go uncensored.
Wait, the character for Genius is Pie? That is even deeper....seems a good episode to ask my question as the subject of his books came up. (Ironically the Roots book had a paper glossy cover sheet that can be removed when the curse catches his demo partner, if it hasn't.) In the Roots and branches of Wing Tsun,(First edition, page 204) a photo of the 1991 Chi Sau Champs of San Francisco is shown. I would love to know exactly who is who. Si-Fu Elmond is on his left I think, and Sifu Robert Jaquet's face on his right, and my first instructor Si-Hing Denis Bone is on the far right of the image in all black with the red ribbon and beard. Any stories you know about that event would be interesting too. Thanks,....
Thanks for commenting - the characters for Genius are 天才, not “pie”(?). I don’t know much about the 1991 tournament, my knowledge of WT history is focused on Hong Kong and Europe. Development in the US has been kind of a joke since day one, and so it’s always been the least interesting aspect for me to study.
@@TheKungFuGenius Thanks, I hope my guesses are right about who is who in the photo. The second character, as it appears in the video, is very much like a Pie symbol,....read ya later...🧐
Like you, Trovador Ramos also says: “Don’t subscribe to this channel”. 🤣
you my KFG😀
Yo!
@@TheKungFuGenius sir i pickup the Double Feature BR :)
Thanks!
You’re welcome!
Respect to you Sir.
Thank you!
@@TheKungFuGenius not looking for any recognition, but I would appreciate any tips you may have on direction or training methods based on the videos I put up, if you had the time of course.
I focus on lat sau and chi sau as I also practice the Leung Ting "curriculum ", as was taught me by my sifu.
Interesting suggestion by Alex Stone, Sylvester Stallone actually trained Taekwondo under Korean Taekwondo superkicker Kwong Yung Moon who you may recognized from several Shaw Brother's and Billy Chong films back in the 70's 80's.
Ramos ☝️🤣🤣🤣
Canni use some footage to my video please?
?
@@TheKungFuGenius sorry, i typed wrong. I have a channel in greek. Can i show some of your footage here to my channel? 1/2 minutes of your talk?
RUclips fair use - you don’t need to ask me!
Great episode guys,love the shirts,get a good laugh out of you guys,Bruce lee was often challenged on the set of enter the Dragon,he'd either correct their form,or kicked the shit out of them,Bruce was just to fast,no one could touch him.
Yes but not by “Travador Ramos”
@@TheKungFuGenius Frank Dux or Beardy might I've been on the set 😄
I know the likely person he was talking to, 14 or so years ago in Bangkok, a Swedish friend of mine, came into a bar we were all in, looking white as a ghost. Long story short, he's bodyguards roughed up the Swedish guy, who had been videoing JCVD with a group of, wot shall we say, 8 or so GIRLS, they took the I phone off the guy & deleted the video.
I don’t remember what this is referring to
@@TheKungFuGenius I'm sure you don't Alex 😜
I’m dead serious, we recorded this months ago and each video has multiple topics. Besides the topic in the thumbnail I don’t remember what else I talked about in this episode. You’re gonna have to remind me what you are referring to.
@@TheKungFuGenius you spotted a very intoxicated JCVD chatting to a person in Hong Kong, you wouldn't say what gender the person was. I know he likes a certain type of gender when visiting Thailand 😉
Oh no, you’re dead wrong on that, she was female.
Word why didn't leung ting fight Williams instead of sending emin botzepe I would of respect that more but who am i
Good question
Would of been good William vs leung
Great Episode, the JCVD. Story was mess up. Van Damme had a alcohol and Drug problem. He Also has a bipolar disorder. Hopefully you meet him again and he makes up for it. All the best to you my friend.
Thanks for commenting!
Have you heard of or seen videos of Sifu Tu Teng?
You mean that actor who poses as a Wing Chun Sifu and is constantly getting “attacked“ by his students at his own school for some strange reason in videos? Never heard of him.
@@TheKungFuGenius Ahahaha. That's awesome. You think he's fake though?
@@TheKungFuGenius I heard he's coming to Deltona.
KFG? I thought it was Kentucky Fried Genius.
Original recipe joke.
@@TheKungFuGenius Finger Lickin' Good!
@@flonomcflooneyloo7573
My momma was so poor she used to take me to KFC to lick _other_ people's fingers...
On top of what you said about someone showing up on the set of Enter the Dragon and beating up Bruce Lee, can you picture how the Producers and Director would freak out? Warner Brothers execs had invested hundreds of thousands of dollars into producing this movie. If someone showed up and beat up the star of their movie, it would threaten the completion of their project and their investment. They probably had insurance policies on Bruce; certainly now a days movie producers have their lead actors insured. If something happens to one of them and the movie can't be completed, or has to start re-filming from the beginning with a different actor it costs millions of dollars! The time the stunt man challenged Bruce and Bruce popped him and was like, "OK. Shows over. Let's get back to work", was no big deal because Bruce was fine and filming continued, but if Bruce had lost and been injured, wow! That would have been a big deal because it threatens the movie completion. Everybody would have known about it.
Totally agree
Sifu Richter-If you had the opportunity to speak with Linda Lee and could ask her anything what would you ask her?
Great question!
I thought you were gonna talk about Leung Ting's God awful Comics he "made" in the 80's and early 90's to compete with Tony Wong's Jademan titles. Holy shit they were garbage
I don’t know why you would think that from the title of this video.
@@TheKungFuGenius I thought it was from his publishing company. Honestly I thought you would just laugh about that.
That is Super Sad.. that Leung Ting did that to you.. obviously you LIVE for your Wing Chun.. and to have your Sifu disown you in that way is truly awful.. then you mention how he did this to many other high ranking students of his over the years.. how shameful. At least NO one can take away your hard effort and years of training..for that speaks for itself.
I appreciate your kind words! We cannot control what other people do, we can only control how we react to it.
@@TheKungFuGenius True and Im sure you went through a whole host of emotions about it, but chose the higher road. A Sifu only leaves behind his legacy.. all those senior students/ disciples whom will teach the new generation when he is gone.. and to estrange all those advanced students with angry words and even worse saying that they were not qualified or that they never learned .. so crappy. My Sifu Eddie Chong had to change lineages after a couple of decades.. His Sifu would not make him a "Sifu".. they said it was his attitude.. im thinking because he wasnt the right kind of Chinese..or something else political like that. I guess this is what we have to deal with as outsiders wanting to learn and teach Kung Fu...
What is your favorite part about being a business owner in New York?
Great question
@@TheKungFuGenius how do you say in Mandarin the *Way of Spontaneous Intuitive Freedom and Innerstanding* as in a martial way?
(Can you please show both kanji and western spelling)?
This is a favor for a dear friend, and I suck at the internet almost as badly as Leung Ting. 🤣💪🙏
Thank you very much Alex.
I don’t speak Mandarin and don’t know if I could say that in Cantonese. This does not sound like a name Chinese would use for anything martial related.
@@TheKungFuGenius My friend will have to accept that. Thank you for your insight and feedback.
@@TheKungFuGenius I was curious as what it sounds like to you?
My friend honestly confused me too. ..didn't think it was martial related but maybe more mentally or something more etheric in nature.
Somebody could have downloaded the website......not me. Just saying. It's probably not totally gone.
I’m ok with it being gone
I'm not so sure Bruce won that fight with Wong Jack Man but we will never really know. The fact is Afterwards he never taught Wing Chun again. So the Chinese who ran things on the west coast SF USA got what they wanted Bruce's schools shut down. To this point I say he lost the fight. His death and celebrity cement his legendary status so people refuse to see Bruce Lee in a negative light especially if it was fighting for his very right to teach westerners Wing Chun. Also his fighting style changed to a more practical street fighting combination of different marital arts techniques that he learned from other disciplines subsequent to the bout. He saw an opportunity to improve upon Chinese and other martial arts and he had to teach something new anyway so Jeet Kune Do or the precusor to MMA was born. In My mind Jeet Kune Do is the only truly American Made Martial Art.
This is not true, I had this conversation with John Little two weeks ago. I lot of people believe he stopped teaching Wing Chun but it’s simple not true. I don’t think any level-headed person believes Bruce lost that fight - the counter narratives are a a mess and mostly discrepant stories from WJM’s ilk. JKD is no more American than Ed Parker’s kenpo, and I’m not sure why that matters anyway.
@@TheKungFuGenius right he didn't stop teaching private lessons with backyard buddies. but he closed his eponymous public schools.. Jun Fan. which is a glaring fact. Perhaps he realized how disrespectful he was being to the SF Cantonese cultural traditions. IDK. The fact that he focused on cardio training subsequent to the fight tells me he gassed out during the fight, suggesting the longer 25 min is accurate, either beating him or chasing him. I maintain that JKD is the only American mixed martial art. "The formless form" Bruce did not even want to give it a name. You should look into it more. Of course lots of the foundational principles come directly from WC but also fencing boxing judo jui juitsu etc... all have influence on JKD. Its like Pizza in America with all manner of toppings it doesn't really resemble the ancestor original form from Italy any longer. American Pizza is its own style...and multiple styles at that. Those versions of pizza are American pizza. Bruce Lees JKD is indeed an American mixed Martial art by definition because he invented it in California and was born in SF. His teaching method for students to learn what is useful and practical for an individuals body and to discard the techniques that don't work in a practical real fight is revolutionary in the Martial Arts Community. I think during the fight with Man he realized how impractical most Kung Fu moves are in a real fight. hence the inspiration for cardio and JKD, Americas first Martial Art.
I’m sorry, this is a bit of a fact and word salad that loses the thread continuously. There are just too many assumptions built into your version of the facts. And I’m still not sure why it’s so important that JKD is American, so was the Ford Pinto.
@@TheKungFuGenius i never made any factual assertions. everything I said was conjecture and opinion. ford pinto is a non sequitur logical fallacy. It's not important that you believe JKD is American. It's like saying Bruce Lee is not American but um OK. you can believe that. LOL
@@TheKungFuGenius instead of arguing against my opinions lets talk about the Jun Fan school closure timeline in relation to the WJ Man fight and why that is relevant. I want to hear what your opinion is on this timing and why Bruce Closed his public schools. For all I know he was done dealing with the pressure from SF Kung Fu Masters to stop teaching the gwai lo. IDK again speculating.
I'd heard that Leung Ting was a bit of a twat tbh He has his place in HK action cinema and real martial arts history of course. I'd heard that the Venoms clashed with him during the filming of Crippled Avengers hence his absence as action director in their films beyond this.
Let’s called accomplished people “twats”
He shouldn't be exempt, from the numerous stories I've heard and his Triad association he's more than deserving. Let's not be passive aggressive.
MMA MMA lol
On my next MMA…
am going to unsubscribed right now 🤣
Haha