A footlong section of neon colored weedwhacker line is an absolutely fantastic way to quickly check a .22 pistol for a bore obstruction, cut one and throw it in the range bag. You can just slip it in the chamber and poke until it's out the muzzle... or not.
Taurus now includes a neon orange zip tie, I now know why. It is just long enough to check for barrel obstructions. If you shoot non-plated bullets check for leading if accuracy drops.
**ATTENTION** - **UPDATE** Final update video is up with all the details about CCI's & Taurus's response and how it is being handled ( ruclips.net/video/XCeUOwIY6ys/видео.html ). I keep getting asked what happened but the video has been up for over a month... (Original comment) Alright everyone, gonna post this up top because the amount of comments I get daily on this is becomming too much to keep up with. First of all, any and all negative comments will be ignored from here on out. I'm not going to have the same conversation 10 times a day with the same kind of know it all people every freaking day. I have been shooting for 20 years, easily over 100,000 rounds fired total, from .22's to .50 caliber guns. In those 20 years and hundreds of thousands of rounds fired, I have never once experienced a squib load until this video. I also have always trusted CCI .22 ammunition 100%, because it has always worked 100% flawless for me for 20 years, unlike other brands. Thus I was in complete and utter disbelief initially that the issue could be my ammo, and also, having never experinced a squib load ever in the past 20 years of shooting, I was negligent in noticing the "obvious" signs when it finally happened to me because I didn't know what to expect having never experienced it before. Now that I experienced this firsthand, yes I will absolutely be checking after each questionable round from here on out. Secondly, if you don't like the occasional profanity, you are free to go elsewhere. I will not sensor myself when I have freedom of speech in this country and even on this very platform to say as I wish. I have also set my channel as "not for children", so I have no remorse for my occasional language. Funny thing is, most of you probably watch rated R movies which contain plenty of profanity, yet you think you get to come on my channel and tell me not to curse. Hypocrites! This is my channel, this is my show. If you don't like it, change the channel...
You are wrong about one thing: this is not your private channel. This is a public place and people are browsing the content and have a right to criticize it in constructive not offending manner. If one subscribes to you PRIVATE channel, goes to your channel to watch your videos, he/she should not complain then. Do not take me wrong, me personally, I am not offended by your language because occasionally I use the same language and actually I learned from your mistake that I should be aware of many aspects of shooting including squib loads. Thanks for that. I sort of to admire people, like you, who are trying to share their experience and by doing that expose themselves to different kind of comments that in many cases are offending . There is always a douchebag among the audience who is lecturing people but at the same time did not demonstrate own achievements... because douchebags don’t have achievements except one: being a douchebag. Thanks for the video and I am subscribing to your channel because I am curious what happened next .
I never said this is a private channel. And yes, people can criticize all they want, just as I can ignore them all I want, or even delete their comments! So in reality, as the creator, I have the power to say what goes and what doesn't, not the community. I can actually set my channel to where all comments have to be approved by me first before they can ever be publicly viewed, or never viewed, my choice. So if I was so inclined, I could do such and only allow comments to post that tickle my fancy and gratify me. But I don't do that for a reason: because people have freedom of speech, and their speech shouldn't be dictated by me. So why do they try to dictate *my* speech, when I have given them the freedom to say whatever they wish, even condemning and insulting me? Because as you said, they are hypocritical "douchebags" and have no clue that I actually allow them to say what they say, even if damaging to me or my image. Anyway that's my 2 cents. Thanks for commenting and subscribing. Hopefully I will have an update soon for everyone...
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Guns&Cars you know comments on gun channels are the worst.
@@tray22 Yeah I talked to them today, still going through the process. I will release a video about it when I have more info. So far they want me to send back the blown cases and other stingers I have from the same lot to them for investigation, not surprisingly. I'm still emailing back and forth right now after calling, pissing me off a lit bit that it couldn't all be handled over the phone to be completely honest, but we'll see how it pans out. The guy didn't seem too thrilled that I had a youtube channel either...
Thank you for this video! I'm 45 years old, been shooting 22's since I got my first rifle when I was 10. I have NEVER seen this happen. Thank you for sharing it and letting us learn from your experience. Godspeed Brother. On a side note.... I would have said worser things.... hell with the haters
You have never seen a .22 squib? I have seen several (I'm 60) but likely less than 10 total. I shoot competition and have witnessed others make the squib mistake. More common with reloads but not unheard of with rim fire.
@@minerblue9641 it definitely happens from time to time. I've had it happen to me once. And seen it one other time when it happened to a guy next to me at the range.
Absolutely valuable information for all of us who shoot. How many of us know about squibs but never experienced one? Glad it wasn't worse for you and thank you for the very stark reminder that it can and does happen.
the rule has always been that you stop fireing at the First indication of an underpowered round. a squib. and check to see that the barrel is clear. sorry about your luck. be glad you werent fireing a high powered weapon. you learned a good lesson.
Yeah see I thought it was just a failure to eject, because there was no recoil or sound; but it was a priner only squib. Learned my lesson the hard way but from now on I know to stop and pull the barrel. Thanks for watching.
Guns&Cars same thing happened to me today with my marlin 60 a dud and it sounded like the bullet was just throw I got confused because it didn’t cycle and I thought it was a misfire but I found no powder smell from the brass.
@@rocco3686 Yeah I don't like those either, usually have feeding issues. But I've never had one be a super light load or fall apart. Quality control anymore is becoming a joke it seems...
Tough pistol? Are you for real? The Gdamn back strap of the magazine well fell out of a brand new Taurus PT 247 I had bought. Got jumped by gangbangers and almost got put 6' under. Fuck Taurus! I'll buy 10 Kel Techs b4 a Taurus!
Same here. 25 years ago a box of .22LR was but a couple bucks. Never experienced more than a handful of light loaded cartridges or the like back then, even from $5 value packs of 550 rounds. In response to the demand for .22LR in recent years, it seems that no manufacturer is immune to serious quality control issues, generally 1-2 per box of 50. Federal has of late been the most reliable of the last 10k rounds I’ve shot. Of the 500 rounds of federal I shot yesterday (Ruger precision bolt gun), four were obviously lightly loaded but did manage to propel the bullets down range, albeit at subpar velocities.
I have owned a sears 22lr rifle for 40 years and shot it over 20,000 times without a misfire, or a squib. And none of it was cci ammo. This guy must have a bad batch for that many problems.
That is a interesting post ! I am in a gun club here in Germany using , like many others, a perfect condition Walther GSP in . 22 LR. But discovered more and more problems fireing the 2. shot out of a mag with 5 rds. Federal Champion .22 LR. Sometimes it is failing to fire apx. one or 2 out of a box of 500, or it is not strong enough to push the slide far enough to eject the spent / feed the 2. Not realy a squib, bullet went out of the barrel - but almost. Stopped using Federal, switched to RWS Semi Auto. Maybe the same Problem with that CCI Stingers ?
Always check your bore when you think something isn’t right ! Personally I check mine after every misfire or fail to eject and I also check after every mag ! Great learning vid 👍
Two biggest causes of gun accidents according to the NRA; Ignorance and Carelessness. I plan to use this video to teach Basic Pistol students what not to do. CCI should use this video as evidence the real failure occurred between the shooter's ears. His comment about his 9mm and 45 being 'real guns' should tip off viewers he doesn't have a safe attitude about firearms.
I have had issues with stinger ammunition in lighter semi-auto. It is a very powerful round for a .22, and when the shell is ejected, I have had rounds explode. I have also had a firing pin break. I now save the stingers for bolt action rifles, where the round is left in the chamber until after it is manually ejected. I believe that bullet that got caught in the barrel was the result of the round exploding when ejected, so that the bullet did not have enough power to get through the barrel. Could be wrong, but that has been my experience.
@@johnturner2585 No, the ammunition was fine. It's the cause of firing a new pistol without checking the chamber or the barrel, He had plenty of hints things were going to go wrong and he ignored all the signs.
Just had some old CCI std velocity that were splitting on the rim in a marlin bolt action rifle. We had one round crack open right where the firing pin struck vectoring combustion gas right back through the bolt.
Me too, that could've been tragic, specially with .22 ! Others are say lucky it wasn't a bigger rd, ....well yeah, an maybe Providence shines down on all of Us about all the Time ! 💯❤️🇺🇸 !
No matter what any one has said about this I am so grateful that the gun was made well and and didn't literally blow apart. Yes even a .22 lr can blow apart. I am even more grateful that you are not hurt or worse. Thank you for sharing this with us. I am looking forward to getting 1 of these. I am so happy you shared this with us and I can see Taurus has once again given us a very well made hand gun. Thank You again.
I have to admit that I was almost screaming at the video after the squib, "Check the barrel! Check the Barrel!" Especially after reading the title. But at the same time, I understand. Things sometimes get overlooked. Thanks for letting us learn from you and glad you didn't get hurt.
Well if you sit a .22 cci stinger next to a normal .22 lr and really look they are the same length overall but the stinger has a longer casing looks like to me maybe the one that busted the end off it was due to that reason alone... But I wasn't there. I love shooting cci ammo and I've easily shot over 50000 rounds of cci stingers alone in my 10/22 ruger but just like with this video it has a ton of controversy on the type of ammo it can shoot
It was from 2 squib loads, because a bullet being stuck in the barrel increases the pressure and blows out the case. It's possible the first one was a fluke or fired out of battery, but the 2nd one was definately a squib.
ZXXflyer Never shot any .22 subsonic. I don’t really see the point. If you’re going to push a small projectile that slow then maybe look into an air gun.
Subsonic and standard are all I use in my rifles because they are ALWAYS more accurate. BTW I only squirrel hunt with air rifles because their more accurate and quieter than .22s.
As a fairly new gun enthusiasts I appreciate you sharing this. I still have a lot to learn and this is just reinforcing that fact. And Profanity is fine. If I don't like something I avoid it rather than complain about it. Society is becoming weak and overly sensitive. Keep up the good work!
More experienced shooters would’ve stopped using the ammo at the first signs that it was unsafe. As a new shooter you can learn from his negligent unsafe gun use, knowingly continuing to use defective ammo, as a cautionary what not to do and why case study.
65 years shooting here and I had my (my wife actually) first squib load yesterday on my snub nosed 38spl. Never have had a misfire, other than just duds, in all this time. Obviously not common. My load was fired by the primer but never left the casing. It projected out into the barrel and jammed the gun. At home I discovered that there was no powder in the casing, just the primer. Fortunately, had half a dozen other guns with me and still had a great start to the new year! Great video, I subscribe.
See that's what I think happened here, that I had a round with zero gunpowder. And a little .22 primer is going to be much quieter than a centerfire primer, thus being completely silent without the bullet exiting the barrel and the action not opening whatsoever to let any sound out. Thanks for subscribing, hope you like the channel. Just started doing gel tests yesterday: uploading tomorrow.
Contrary to the Taurus haters in the comments, I've had no issues with the TX22. The first one I bought was in 2019,soon after they were introduced. 10 thousand rounds later it was stolen. All factory parts, I used CCI exclusively and has zero issues after 150 round break in. One failure to feed during breaking in. I bought my second TX22 a few weeks ago and not surprised, it runs perfectly. As the op of the video does, I shoot tens of thousands of rounds of 22 and never seen a single squib load. I have seen squid load in my 9mm . One. Out of too many rounds to count. I bought a sig 22 a few years back. It's the only handgun I've ever owned that would not run a full 10 rd mag without a problem. I paid Sig money for garbage.dealer took it back. Shows that different folks can have issues with same gun. It's rare to see a video of problems with this Taurus TX22. By the way, the slide is aluminum. Not Zamac. Or alloy as somebody in comments stated. Good video. Bad outcome
DUDE I called it!!! So proud of myself 😮 12:31 as soon as you said one had significantly less recoil after it failed to eject, my first thought was "I think I would take that thing apart and look down the barrel, bet there's a bullet still in there." And it happened, wow. Gut instincts, sometimes they're there for a reason.
Thank you for the great video. I have been shooting .22 cal rifles and pistols for over 50 years and have never had this happen. You learn something every day. A very informative and enlightening video. Stay safe and good shooting!!!
I have this gun and absolutely love it. I have shot the cheapest dirtiest ammo I could fund and the best match quality 22 ammo and after probably 2000 rounds through the gun have not had one failure to fire or eject. This is a rock solid gun at a fantastic price.
The surprise is that such damage to the barrel could occur with .22 rimfire. Rimfire rounds are "pipsqueaks" and "underpowered" - yet a mishap and containment of pressure at what looked like 70% of the way down the barrel, despite the pressure relief of a moving slide, was enough to bulge extremely hard and strong barrel steel! Very informative, and an object lesson on just how much power we hold in our hands with even a small caliber rimfire weapon. It's to Taurus' credit that their POLYMER weapon withstood the explosion with no injury to the shooter. They may produce weapons at a very affordable price, but obviously they are of very high quality and safety. Thanks for the video - may it be your only misfire.
Good product, says a lot for Taurus to keep on firing after the damage it sustained. Hope I will notice a squib load if it ever happens to me. All in all, glad nothing really bad happened.
Actually I think you handled it quite well. I'd be mad as hell if just one of those failures happened to me. Fortunately I've never had a case blow out or a squib load. Yet! But I've had more than a few failure to feed problems with .22 semi-auto rifles. Not with lever and bolt action rifles though. I chalk it up to rim fire ammo just not being as reliable as center fire. Actually this is a good advertisement for Taurus that the weapon still functioned at all after the blow out and then the squib bulging the barrel. Very informative video.
I was at a multi-position outdoor range about 30 years ago. "Cease-fire" was called, and the guy next to me proceeded to extract a chambered, live round from his bolt action. Only the case came out, which he looked at quizzically, then tipped it upside down, at which point the powder poured out. He shrugged his shoulders and set the case down on his bench. Once the range went hot again, he looked as if he was getting ready to proceed as if everything was good to go. I told him that the bullet must still be in the barrel (he hadn't thought of this!). He then took his rifle, with its hard butt plate, and began BANGING THE BUTT OF THE STOCK, with the rifle VERTICAL, ON THE CONCRETE to try to cause the bullet to dislodge. I thought: "Let me get the HELL away from this guy!" : )
Jesus Christ, that is insane. For one, where the hell did he think the bullet went? Then to smash the gun against the ground like that? Goodbye accuracy. Yeah I would have got the hell away from him too!
@@TheCowboyfromhell87: They (Trail Glades in Miami) had an older veteran in a booth with a P.A. system watching everyone like a hawk, but not closely enough to catch that (maybe 50 active positions?). I think he was even a consultant for Simmons at some point. www.miamidade.gov/parks/trail-glades.asp I have seen him tell someone (in a "drill sergeant" tone of voice) who he'd had to get on to previously that, if they turned around pointing their pistol at him again, he was going to shoot them : )
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...sounds like the kind of guy who pours half a gallon of gasoline on camp fire and then sticks his head over it while lighting it. I'm glad someone was looking out for the moron.
My Walther P22Q squib loaded before I even put 500 rounds through it. Same stuff. Can hardly notice on a 22. Sent it in for warranty repair and Walther apparently doesn't have enough barrels to replace it. Sent it in 3 months ago. Still waiting for it back.
And thank you for sharing this with us. The profanity is eclipsed by the fact that you still published this video showing it all. Thank you for your courage. Just glad you are safe. This is wild.
New barrel is in and it runs great, even somewhat accurate to 100 yards. I plan to post a 100 yard video sometime like I have of my other deserving pistols. Thanks for watching.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Just curious - did Taurus replace the barrel or did CCI pay to have you buy a new barrel or did you just do it? Again, glad you are safe my friend and for posting this video. Lessons to be learned to all of us.
I give this review a five out of five stars!! This is real life scenario in real time. I’m thinking Taurus has improved in the years on reliability and quality for the value. CCI on the other had better put their big boy pants on and tow the line!! If they have slacked on quality control that bad, someone could get hurt. Not cool. Thank you for following through with the video and testing everything like a pro. You answered my questions as I was asking them.
Well thank you for all the kind words. A quick scroll through the comments will reveal that not everyone has been so kind. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching and commenting.
22 ammo has been junk since the shortage. They bought all this new equipment to deal with that issue and now its everywhere at fairly close to where it was. So what is a company gonna do? Same thing as lays chips. Gonna take 20 out of each bag to make other bags. Ammunition plants do the same. A few less grains of powder in each round. Honestly Winchester is about the only decent 22 still around. Had nothing but cycle issues with pretty much everything else. And this is in 10 plus 22s that i have shot. Sad
I can relate to seeing odd malfunctions for the first time. Case and point upon diagnosing an AR-15 who's gas key was so loose I was amazed it wasn't sheared off into the stock. The scarier bit was upon doing a function check with a BCG we had laying around. The trigger hammer had been damaged enough to the point that when firing and doing a reset that It acted like a binary trigger. Told my buddy what needed replacing and he did just that. Actually I've seen some odd malfunctions so to go 20 years without seeing this is truly impressive. Also dang Taurus did a good job with that barrel, that's quality right there. Thank you.
Well I gotta be honest and say I would have kept shooting too. Inconsistency’s in .22 ammo is very common especially bulk. I have never had a single issue with CCI and would consider them to be the gold standard for .22 ammo. I didn’t think a .22 had the nut to bulge a barrel. As for the gun, it’s a real shooter. Taurus is finally crawling out of the dumpster and has a few good pistols including the PT111G2.
Umm id say the barrel seating isn't made for the longer 22 stinger. So slide isn't fully going to battery. Most 22 cal pistol and rifles today say not to shoot stingers because of tolerances.
Chris Gilbert m8 in England we haven’t got the same access to pistols so I watch and comment and watch as much as I can while I’m waiting for my pistol 🔫 👍🏻👊🏻
CCI hasn't been the same since it was merged into ATK. It's now part of Vista Outdoors along with Federal. CCI ammo can now come from Federal factories.
Ahhh, see, I was telling a few people that I just read about Federal having their hands in the business, and was wondering if that is causing some of the issues. I was confused today when the shipping label they sent me for the ammo said Vista Outdoors. Thanks for the info.
@@Jahalang82 Federal bulk pack seems to be the most common rimfire ammo that people call "unreliable". Center fire ammo is commonly seen as far more reliable than rimfire. Federal center fire ammo has a great reputation. Here is one of the best YT gun channels on .22LR reliability. ruclips.net/video/JiMNASuw69U/видео.html
@@Jahalang82 Federal makes good ammo. But in the .22 world, CCI was one of the best, better than federal, as far as .22 ammo goes. Rimfire .22 ammo as a whole is notoriously unreliable compared to standard centerfire cartridges like 9mm, .45, 5.56, etc. Back in the day you could trust CCI'S .22 ammo to be as reliable as any centerfire cartidge, but maybe those days are gone now.
I worked at an indoor range for thirty years and I’ve seen a whole lot of stuff happen. All the problems that’s discussed in the NRA handgun safety class has happened. We had problems with CCI Stingers and Tula. CCIs had more than a few misfires and occasional squibs while the Tula blew up our Glock 21. As for problem guns, number one on the list is the Desert Eagle. Pain in the butt, high maintenance and parts are prone to breakage. We stocked half dozen firing pins, pistons and recoil springs at all times. We even had four back-ups and the biggest headache was that every year, they’d slightly change the parts design. There was a hang-fire with it once. Our instructor was just about to rack the slide and it went off. No injuries, thank God! 1911s were prone to breaking too. The bigger the name, the higher the price, the quicker they died. The cheapest Rock Island GI model lasted the longest! Beretta 92fs were humbug in the beginning, with the locking block and slide cracking after a couple thousand rounds... Towards the end, they changed the metal composition and they started to outlast Glocks! Barrels would fall off the S&W 686 after about a thousand rounds...Just snapped right off. But the Taurus Tracker and Raging Bull had an even shorter life span. Trackers would go out of sync and not advance the cylinder while the Raging Bull would snap it’s trigger post. Damn shame because it’s a really accurate 44 mag. At 30’, I could poke all 6 shots in the same hole! With the ported barrel and extra cushion grips, I could shoot all day without my hand going numb!
Wow, thank you for all that information. Several of the guns you mentioned are on my wish list, but now I'm not so sure lol. The Rock is a great 1911 for sure; been shooting the same one for a couple years now and it works flawless, every time.
@james avery Yes, it was a recurring problem. We stopped using Smith and went to Taurus but that didn't work out well either. Their revolvers had an issue with timing. We'd cock the hammer and the cylinder lock wouldn't engage so it didn't lock. Fortunately, it wouldn't fire either! We then tried Ruger GP100, which lasted a little longer. The trade-off was the GP100 has a lot of tiny parts that like to roll off the counter and hide and requires three hands to reassemble.
@@BuckeyeBallistics To be fair, we put a 1000 rounds every few days through our guns. Moderate shooters probably wouldn't shoot that much in a lifetime!
@Travis Thacker Oh ok, yeah ours is the 5". Have a Colt and a Ruger as well, and a Girsan to play with (buddies). I love my Ruger honestly, but the Rock is a tank.
Great video. I have been shooting for 2 decades now and I learned a lot from your experience with the CCI ammo. The experience of others in the comments about the importance of thoroughly inspecting your barrel after a suspected squib round was also invaluable. I urge you to change the title of this video; all shooters (of 22 and any caliber) should see this. The importance of taking your time and inspecting any change in felt recoil, and examine your weapon (including the barrel) can't be overstated. This video should, as has been suggested before, be labeled CCI Stingers -- Ends Catastrophically. Like many, I almost skipped this video thinking it was going to be some Taurus quality-related malfunction. If anything the Taurus provided its value and toughness. Even I squib 22 hit by another round can result in serious injury. Sorry about your barrel, but keep the videos coming. Good work.
That’s your fault, he can title the video whatever he wants, don’t like it keep scrolling buddy. It isn’t his responsibility to keep others safe. It’s not safe to play with guns so if you do you’re taking a chance, so yeah he ain’t gonna change the title buddy
Great video and awesome explanation of what a squib round is in you comments. Glad you didn't get injured from it. I hope CCI will step up to make it right. They have a great reputation so I hope they take steps to maintain it. I'm sure, as other people have stated, Taurus will send you what you need to fix the pistol if you get a hold of them. Good luck and stay safe.
I'm so glad that you were not hurt. I had an issue once with a bad round a long time ago. That TX22 did what it was supposed to do. It blew out the mag well. Hat's off to Taurus for building a good strong weapon. Hope everything works out for you. Hammer Down brother.👍
Thank you for the kind words friend. Had I not already pinned my own comment at the top to adress all the hate I'm getting, I would pin yours. Thank you for the support, hope you're a subscriber...
@@BuckeyeBallistics yes I am a subscriber. Don't worry about the "strong language". You should have heard my mouth when I when I encountered my ammo issue.😂👍
@@bryanhackett Exactly! One guy I even told: if ever I had an excuse to drop the F bomb, pretty sure a brand new gun blowing up in my hand is such an excuse! Glad to have you as a subscriber Bryan, and thanks for watching.
The taurus tx22 is probably one of the best budget/22lr pistol's that I've ever owned. Your problem definitely seems ammo related. Cci is generally known for their high quality 22lr ammo. Sorry to hear that happened to you. The only issue that I've ever had with my tx22 was, one of the mags that I received when I purchased the pistol was defective. (Taurus replaced the defective mag) Otherwise the gun ran like a champ. Even with cci stingers. The pistol (with good ammo) is so reliable I purchased a second one. Hope you get this issue resolved and a new barre,l so you can get back on the range. Don't let it ruin your holiday. God bless and be safe.
You're the first person I've heard of having mag issues. The only issue I knew of was the bad barrels the early ones had, which I made a video about. I sent the ammo back to CCI last week, waiting to hear back. I would just order a new barrel and ask CCI to reimburse me for it so I can get to shooting it again already, but they are on backorder due to Taurus having to replace all the bad barrels. So it's going to be a while either way. Sucks, cause I had other videos planned with this pistol...
@@BuckeyeBallistics When I purchased the pistol it came with two 16rd mags. The first mag I loaded and fired no problems. Not a stovepipe, failure to feed, worked great. The second mag.... I noticed right off that there was something wrong. When loading about half way through the ammo started to bind up. I was using cci mini mags. I tried different ammo, same problem. When I did get all 16rds load in the mag, after about 8rds the gun wouldn't feed properly. I tried the first mag again, no problem. So I knew it wasn't the gun. After examining the second mag more throughly, I noticed that it bowed inwardly, just slightly. Enough to cause feeding issues. I contacted taurus and they sent me two new replacement mags free of charge. (Took awhile, but worth the wait) and as I said earlier, the gun runs like a champ! Reliable, accurate and you can't beat the price! Never was a big fan of taurus before, but now I own several. Taurus has really upped their game! Hang in there.
@@BuckeyeBallistics If you like the G2c (which is really a sweet gun), you gotta get the G3. Not as concealable as the G2c, but better trigger, balance and higher mag capacity. And for under $300 (in my opinion), you can't buy a better 9mm. Shoots straight and goes bang every time. Taurus has really brought their game up. Have a safe and happy new year. By the way, great job on the video.
Glad I watched this. I just purchased a TX22 and put 500 rounds of Remington thunderbolt through it with not one faure of any kind. I cleaned and lubed it before I took it out. It was dirty from the factory. I was impressed with the gun, ergonomics and accuracy. I will be paying attention from now on to catch any load inconsistency. Thanks and great video. Swear all you want...I don't give a fuck.
Congratulations on the video, won my tumb up for the courage and honesty to disclose what happened to you. We have seen in other channels that when ammunition is reloaded, the blame is blamed on the weapon manufacturer, but this time there is no way to do it. And yes, it was the ammunition manufacturer's fault. I hope the CCI will cover its damage with the weapon.
Yep, sub Sonics rarely cycle through anything but super light slide springs and slides made of aluminum. The CCI though I love the Blazer Brass in 9mm in 22 subsonic they are the same as regular 40 grain ball , they just scrimp on the powder inside. It’s a way to cheap out and hide by stating it’s quieter. The Taurus TX22 is a very reliable gun. Feed it good ammo like Federal / Winchester etc. it’ll run great.
So basically any time we see a failure to extract we should inspect the barrel for obstruction. That was crazy, I’m glad we could learn from your mishap.
And I'm glad you're learning as I did, instead of being a know it all jackass like other people one here and judging me. So yes, those of us who aren't know it alls learned something from this. I'm glad I learned with a .22 lol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
One thing is apparent from the video - the length of the slide motion on recoil varied from shot to shot. Sometimes it was obviously going all the way to the rear and others you could see it almost short-cycling.
So far the only ammo failures I’ve had out of my tx22 is Winchester copper plated hollow points. The 22 thunderbolt ammo was perfect for the 500 rounds. And the 3 50 rd boxes of cci I shout through it were also flawless. And I can tell you examining the ammo for the Winchester hollow points they are terribly made.
I went shopping without a barrel light in my pocket and bought one of these, brand new. I have three things to say. Bring a light, take a look down the barrel, and compare it to ANY other similar manufacturer/model. If you still want it, that's up to you (mine had rifling on the top and almost none on the bottom, and it had about 20 jagged rings - I believe it's called "chatter" - that were easier to see than the rifling). Second, based on the complaints on YT and the forums, there are a lot of people on the barrel replacement list -- not the slide, not the firing pin, not the trigger assembly, not the clips, the BARREL. There's a reason for that. Third, the features and ergonomics were exceptional.
I'm 57, and I started shooting my first 22lr at 9 years old. I have NEVER had a case on any CCI blow out, a squib load, or that many malfunctions in one outing! Good thing is Taurus lifetime warranty. I guarantee between CCI, and Taurus it will get fixed for free!
Taurus warranty states they will not cover damage done to the firearm due to faulty ammo, which is inderstandable, because ot's not their fault. Also, you have to fill out the registration within 30 days or void the warranty...
Thank you for this, it's looking like each time I shoot my gun I'll have to have a camera going due to the crap you had to deal with... Again thanks for this...
I knew right away what happened in your video. I had this happen when I was 16 with a rifle called the Nylon 66. They have a Mannlicher stock. I was shooting shooting at a target when one round made a muffled sound. The next round was loud, and it and subsequent shots blew a puff of air back at me and my groups were all over the place. I walked home and was cleaning the gun. I noticed a dull spot in the barrel and was scrubbing and scrubbing to get it cleaned out. On the Nylon 66 you can rotate the barrel 90 degrees and take it out, which I did. Then I scrubbed and scrubbed. One of the times when I was flipping the barrel end for end I felt my hand go over a bulge. It's crazy I didn't notice it until that point because it was incredibly obvious. The bulge had lengthwise splits in the barrel around the bulge, and that barrel was a lot thicker than on your hand gun. The puff in my face was caused by the gas escaping from the slits in the barrel and part of it being channeled through the Mannlicher stock back to my face in the scope area. The gun was a Remington and so was the ammo. I called a radio station and they told me to contact the manufacturer. My dad was listening to radio on the way home from work and instantly recognized my voice. Remington gave me instructions to send in the gun and ammo. I thought I'd be out of business for a while, but not so. They sent back their most expensive version of the gun and 500 rounds of ammo right away. I paid attention to weaker than normal shots from then on. This is not just a CCI issue nor does it have anything to do with the so-called power of the CCI to be able to do that to a barrel. Standard ammo does every bit as much damage. I would learn later that rim fires are prone to this and old-timers are smart and knew this. There were guns in the past that were 50 cal. and larger with some used in machine guns that were rim fire.
I have not read all of the comments, so forgive me if I am repeating another reply. The case on the Stinger is longer than a regular .22 LR round. Certain manufacturers, in their literature, specifically say NOT to use Stinger ammunition in their firearms because of this extra length. This is because the chambers are not bored deep enough to accept the longer case. This may be the case with the Taurus. I have 2 match 10/22 barrels where this applies. A shorter chamber results in better accuracy to limit bullet jump. I suspect what happened when the case head blew out is that the round never went fully into battery, leaving the head unsupported. When the round went off, the brass blew out. This could have been partially due to some powder residue or other material in the chamber. About 50 years ago I owned a Remington semi-auto rifle, and for what ever reason, a round would not fully chamber every once in a while, but when the trigger was pulled, the round went off. Very scary, with brass and fire coming out of the ejection port. Did I mention loud? In those days there really was no ear protection used outdoors with a .22. Ears rang for a while! Oh, and we didn't have Stingers back then either. For what it's worth, I would stay away from the Stingers. Good luck with the diagnosis.
I didn't fully explain the problem a longer case causes in my original post. The case will jam into the rifling because of a chamber not long enough, which in turn can cause the case to collapse and grip the bullet tighter. The result is that there is no room for the bullet to ramp up to speed; there is essentially a plugged barrel. You may have gotten away with it if the barrel was clean, but a bit of powder residue combined with the long case could certainly cause the round to not go fully into battery.
Yes I have covered this a few times in the comments, but you are forgiven friend because I don't expect you to read over 1000 comments lol. To start, the manual for the TX22 does not state to not use Stingers, nor does it say anything about any other ammunition for that matter. I have seen in other manuals however for other guns, as you metioned, "no stingers," but no such thing in this one. I have known about the longer case on them and the problems it *could* cause for many years. With that being said, most, if not all modern produced .22's are built to accomodate this, except for match barrels as you mentioned. In regards to the chamber being dirty enough to cause the round not to seat properly, even with the longer stinger cases, I doubt it. Every shot you saw in the video was the very first rounds through the gun, so not nearly enough to start gumming it up yet. Also my friend has 3 TX22's, and his first one he put 6000 rounds through it just to see how long it would run without cleaning it, and it kept running the whole time with zero issues. So considering both of these facts, it's extremely unlikely that the case didn't seat fully, even with the stinger. But in conclusion, I will point out that the round that caused the explosion in the end and ruined the barrel, was a dead silent squib. Someone tried to say the longer case thing could cause a squib if the bullet was already jammed into the rifling, and thus "stuck." That theory may hold some merit, IF there was still a bang or pop from the round. But my squib was dead silent, meaning it failed to ignite the propellant and was lodged in the barrel by the primer- then the following round slammed into it and caused the explosion. Either way I appreciate the time you took to explain what you did about the longer case, so I hope you find this reply engaging and worthwhile for your efforts.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Thanks for your time going into the detail that you did. This is truly a mystery as to the cause, and I hope either CCI or Taurus steps up to the plate and makes it right! I have been reloading pistol, rifle, and shotgun for about 50 years now, and had a squib in my 9mm carbine. It was during a rapid fire stage in a match, with the time between shots of about 0.15 seconds. I was surprised that I was actually able to hear it, and more surprised that I was able to stop firing in time. The bullet went just far enough down the barrel to engage the rifling, so I don't think another round would have chambered. I'm getting off topic here, so forgive me. Squibs are dangerous, and I'm glad you weren't hurt. Take care and keep shooting!!
Bantamdude Rodriguez Thank you so much for your criticism of my comment. My comment wasn’t directed at you who are obviously the go to guy for anything about guns. My comment was for those people who are new to using guns and are looking for sage advise concerning malfunctions. I’ve experienced a squib load before and was fortunate to have had good advice concerning gun malfunctions. If not I might have been seriously injured. Next time you might save your comments for when you have something constructive to say.
I had the same thing happened to me with my Glock 26 using Remington 9mm white box 100 rolls bulk ammo from Walmart Glock said it was the ammo Remington said it was the gun so no one paid for a new barrel I purchased from Lone Wolf. Good Luck getting a new barrel at lease you have a video to show what happened which I didn’t have.
You can watch the follow up video if yoy want to know what happened; I did get a barrel finally a few weeks ago. If that happened to my glock and nobody covered it I would be pissed.
I had case failure once with Thunderbolts, shot nice stinging jet of burning powder and gasses to my hand, from relatively open back end of High Standard....
I have both the G2C and TX22. I love the G2C and I initially loved the TX22 but I noticed a large amount of lead buildup in the barrel after shooting only 100 rds of CCI standard ammo. Did some research and found that a lot of the TX22s are having this problem. Sent it back to Taurus and 15 weeks later still don't have my pistol back. Called Taurus support and found that my TX22 has a bad barrel and that replacement barrels are on back order with no ETA. I'm not happy. I have purchased a Walther PPQ 22 as a replacement. It works and shoots great with no abnormal lead build up. I'll test and then probably sell the TX22 if I ever get it back. I'm keeping the G2C.
Just watched the rest of your videos on the TX22. Thanks for all the updates. After seeing your video about the barrel issues I think it may have just been extreme fouling rather than a squib that caused the blowout and barrel bulge. From watching this video It didn't seem like a typical squib where a round doesn't exit the barrel since I could hear it strike the steel target. Never seen anything like that before. Thanks again for all the updates.
See, the same reason you are confused right now is the same reason I didn't detect the squib load myself as it happened. It happened when the gun went "click." The one that didn't go off and I ejected it? Well, that was the squib... a dead silent one. Basically only the primer went off either due to no gunpowder in the cartridge, or all of the powder being contaminated and not igniting. Because the bullet didn't exit the barrel and the action of the pistol didn't open, the sound of the little rimfire primer going off was completely contained and bottled up within the gun due to the circumstances. When I chambered the next round and fired, it struck the bullet in the barrel from this silent squib.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Ah I see. I've had squibs with a centerfire pistol before but you could hear the primer go bang. Never had a squib with a rimfire before, good to know. Thanks again.
Jeesh. Idk if I'll ever get a .22 pistol... I just hear so many negatives about rimfire.... glad you weren't hurt brother! Looks like Taurus's quality is sturdy and that is comforting. I'll grab the g2c or g3. Academy has them for 199. Even though I swore off buying from Academy lol (always delayed on 4473) Thank you for such a long, detailed video
I've bee using CCI .22 ammo almost exclusively for 21 years and have never had this happen before. Hopefully this is not a sign of quality slipping at CCI, hopefully just a fluke. I have the G2 and love it, great gun, especially for the price. I already released a video on it a couple months ago if you haven't already seen it. Looks like you'll be a regular, glad to have you abord. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@BuckeyeBallistics ill continue to monitor .22lr through your vids. I'm digging through your production library. Glad the G2 is working well. I'll be watching those videos in the near future. Glad to be aboard brother. Talk soon 🍻
@@PARENTALADVISORYPODCAST Awesome man. I do have all my .22 videos under a playlist on the channel for easy access. Since you're a .22 guy you will probably enjoy my 500 yard series I've been working on, and I'm going to do some .22 ammo testing/reviews in the near future. I mean I have a couple already but I have like 50 different kinds of .22 ammo to do videos with.
@@BuckeyeBallistics I'm All in on the .22 series! Yes I am a .22 man Haha I love the dynamics and ballistics of small, distance shots. Also the knowledge of windage, precision, and ballistics needed to proficiently operate .22 calibre has always intrigued me. Most people never cover .22lr/mag and its possibilities! Cant wait for that series. Will stand by 👍
@@tokin420nchokin Or maybe we shouldn't let others shame us. I mean there are times when we should watch what we say, like maybe around kids or in front of elders or in church. But when a gun just blew up in my hand, I think I'm entitled to be pissed off about that situation and curse. Others commenting on here don't seem to think so. But as I told everyone in my comment that I posted to the top for all to see, everyone is free to change the channel if they don't like it. I won't be scolded by another adult- they can go piss off.
In hindsight, you probably should've stopped shooting the CCI once you realized they were funky haha. Glad that you're safe though. Keep us updated on what happens!
I've been shooting CCI for 21 years without any problems. I was almost in disbelief, thought it was the gun at first because I couldn't believe my go to ammo of the past 2 decades was to blame... Will update when I have info.
I've had a case rupture like this. Here's my conclusion and you can make up your own mind. There was a tiny bit of debris at the front of the chamber, possible powder residue that allowed the round to chamber, was far enough in battery to fire but not fully seated so when the round went off the unsupported rear of the case blew out. A dirty chamber can cause this to happen but it is rare. This also sometimes happens to older .22's that have eroded chambers. As to the squib load, it happens with any ammo and though rare it happens more than one thinks but usually to those re-loading centerfire ammo and not paying attention on a progressive loader or getting sloppy in their re-loading. It is very rare but happens with factory ammo. There was a squib projectile in the barrel when the second round went off and this could cause a rupture case on the second round in the chamber as the gases needed to escape somewhere and the weakest area was the unsupported case as it was being ejected. I knew immediately when you ejected the case from the squib load what was going to happen because I have seen it before. Most people have no clue about squib loads and fail to notice the tell tale signs assuming a weak round cleared the barrel. AR-15 owners take note: I have seen several AR-15's blow up from a squib load. Usually a projectile that travelled down the barrel enough to chamber the next round, fire and blow up the barrel! I have seen people who have shot re-loaded ammo that was out of spec. When the round wouldn't chamber properly, eject the round without inspecting it. Sadly the bullet pulled out of the case and was still in the barrel. Next reaction was to chamber a round which sometimes doesn't go into battery fully. Their first reaction is to use the forward assist until a round fits into the chamber. That forward assist, assisted you in chambering a new round and you have sucessfully created a hand held bomb! As tactical as forward assist are and everybody needs it? I don't use mine. Issues chambering a round tells you STOP! find out what the problem is, and yes check the barrel for obstructions! Run a cleaning rod down the bore or crack it open and look down the bore.
I’m sorry that happened on your new Tx22 video, and thank God you didn’t get injured or killed. I hope CCI or Taurus replace your barrel and magazine. It’s good you have video evidence of mishap, I learned a valuable lesson today through your experience today good luck😢
Damn, dude! Glad you're ok! And yeah, my language would have gone really salty. Well, I am a sailor, so "swear like a sailor" is quite accurate. I am impressed by that little Taurus, though. Blew out in a safe direction, kept you safe!
I think that when you walk in, the sailors leave the room. Roflmao. But seriously. Who cares. Enough with the hypocrisy of some people. Like you never heard this before.
You may already know by now that there are 2 generations of barrells. I was watching another review prior to this as I am interested in this gun. The first reviewer HAMMER STRIKER had issues with lead being shaved off the bullets he was using and clogging the barrel filling the groves and hard to clean. Apparently TAURUS knew or learned of this and redesigned the barrel assembly, so I for one would be interested in which barrel was in your gun. Other not mentioning the silencer adapter, I really liked your review and the manner you presented it. Thank you.
Yeah I forgot about the silencer part, probably because of what happened. Yes I am aware of the faulty barrels: I made a video about it to warn others. Not sure which mine had because I didn't learn about it until after this video, and mine is full of lead because of the squib load. I'm glad you liked the video, thanks for watching.
There are several videos on barrel issues with the TX22. I have cleaned metal shavings out of mine twice now. Maybe it was not the ammo. I love the gun, but will be investigating with Taurus.
the shooter was fortunate he wasn’t hurt. Squib load, bullet was stuck in the barrel. Shooter didn’t clear the barrel! It is the shooters fault the barrel bulged. Squib load is the ammo Mfgrs fault. But it is the shooters responsibility to stop and clear the gun before shooting any more rounds. I doubt that Taurus will help you with that failure.
Not a negative, but I saw it coming after the first one with no check for obstruction. Then the one with "extra" recoil made it s sure thing. Good lesson for everyone on how picking a culprit too early can blind you to the real problem. Glad you shared it. (Going to view the follow up. I'm guessing a different spring, or you replaced it backwards and that changed the moving mass.)
Hey, thanks for posting this. I've had mediocre success with CCI 22's, mostly good, but not 100%. I've had nothing but good luck with the few Taurus handguns I have (no 22's though) so my gut tells me this is an ammo issue (and a safety issue at that). If you contact CCI, please post a follow-up with the outcome. Anytime I have contacted an ammo company to question their quality they have never responded. That includes Hornady, who I happen to like overall. Ammo companies should be held to a high standard in my book. Thanks again!!
Yeah I have spoke to them and sent the ammo back for investigation. I will absolutely be posting a follow up video when everything is settled. Thanks for watching.
That is an impressive 22 pistol by Taurus to withstand several ammo malfunctions and to get past a squib without any damage to the shooter and minimal damage to the handgun. Very SOLID design by Taurus. I've seen TWO Glock 22's suffer catastrophic damage from squib ammo, with only minimal injury to the shooters, although both handguns were "totaled", showing that Glock also engineers their guns well. Using a Taurus 66 7-shot revolver, 4" barrel, a shooting acquaintance tested his 357 Mag hand loaded ammo (125 gr JHP) using Hodgdon H110. He liked running maximum loads (22 grains rated at 1966 fps from a 10" test barrel!). At the range I was several benches down from him setting up my bench when I heard an extra loud report EVEN for a 4" barreled 357 Mag revolver. Looking up I saw him saying "Damn Taurus trash" as he loosened a stuck cylinder by hand. I continued my bench set up as he experienced two more cylinder bind ups by the Taurus 66. Finally I watched his 4th shot and saw an incredible fireball out of the muzzle along with the loud report as the cylinder stuck again as he cursed the Taurus trying to un-stick the cylinder. This time I RAN down the walk to his bench waving my arms yelling "STOP" and asked about the ammo. The Taurus ran flawlessly with some Remington 125 gr 357 Mag I happened to have with me. Later at home, I pulled two of his hand loads and found they were loaded with 24 grains of H110, nearly a 10% OVERLOAD of MAX suggested loading! I calculated around 50,000 PSI chamber pressure for the 24 grain 10% overload. I yanked the cylinder from the Taurus and rolled it on a flat steel surface, looking carefully for chamber bulges. There were NONE! That Taurus 66 revolver survived FOUR loads of 50,000 PSI loaded rounds without issue! The primers were literally melting back into the firing pin hole, jamming the cylinder! Many bad mouth Taurus handguns, but I have found them to be very stoutly constructed with good to very good design overall. Occasionally I do see irritating minor problems that should have never passed quality control, but almost always, especially in the revolvers, the fix is quick and simple by a mechanically inclined owner without a return to factory.
Thanks for the story and knowledge. I intend to add a Taurus 44 Tracker to my collection someday soon, along with the Raging Judge Magnum. Previously I had owned a standard Judge and never had any issues with it. I have also owned a PT140 Pro with zero issues in the past 10 years, and a G2 and G3 without any issues. However, with their Spectrum that I owned recently, I had a lot of stovepipe issues with that gun until I got nearly 500 rounds through it. Also my slide just broke on the tx22, which is becomming a more common issue as I briefly touched on in my video showing the damage. At least now they have a lifetime warranty...
The update video was posted months ago. If you go to "playlists" on my channel, I have a ".22" playlist that contains all my .22 videos so you can find it quickly.
Glad I ran across this. Glad it wasn't catastrophic to yourself. I love my 22's also. Just purchased a Walther IWI Uzi rifle to go with my Uzi pistol lol. Subbed and hope CCI does you right.
Thanks for posting the incident, warts and all. The Taurus seems to be a very good and surely stout gun to contain the squib event/error with the ammo. A good safety wake-up call for us all. Bring along a #2 pencil in your range bag for quick and safe squib checks.
@@BuckeyeBallistics cleaning rod segment or sized wood dowel piece….same idea. Had a squib once on a Nagant revolver and a dowel rod saved the day...and the gun.
CCI Christmas ammo I bought in bulk was so bad I thought it had to be my pistols. I mean CCI? Ruled everything else out and send them a sample. Week later a VP called saying (it was tested and malfunctioned and sent me a mailing label) and without a letter or apology replaced everything. Not one extra round for my trouble. Thanks for your vid.
Yeah see, that's shitty customer service right there. There should have *at minimum* been an explanation and apology. And some extra ammo should be in order too. I mean when you send a gun in for warranty work they usually send a free mag back as a "sorry." I didn't have a much better experience with them either. Check out the final update video if you want the whole story.
Mine initially jammed like crazy. Tried different kinds of ammo, not loading the mag fully, lubricating the mag and gun and so forth. After about 500 rounds over several visits to the range I sent it to Taurus for warranty work. They polished the feed ramp and had it back to me within a week. Fired many hundreds of rounds since without a problem. Interestingly they said not to use hollow points with the tx-22.
That's weird. They probably just said don't use hp's so it would feed reliably, since you were having feeding issues. There is no reason it shouldn't be able to feed hp's all day long, as mine does. I hate to say it but they were probably just bs'ing you so they didn't have to replace the whole gun.
Now that was a interesting video and I myself have experienced a squid load that I was unprepared for and I blew up a high dollar 45 ACP 1911 but fortunately for me no injury now I am very cautious if I hear an underpowered load or anything I immediately clear the weapon and inspect inside the barrel.
When did you buy them? Do you have a lot number? It's on the side, not on the upc code like I thought. I'm going to be letting them know about the other people saying they had issues as well.
I cleaned mine very good before shooting. Clean after every range trip, have about 1300 rounds thru mine with no issues. Much more reliable than my cz shadow 2 22 lr kadet slide assy (a light primer strike occasionally). This was my first taurus, has a nice trigger and fun to shoot. I did pit a front fiber optic dawson precision sight on it.
Almost a year ago we also had problems with CCI ammo (Blazer speccifically). Our range buys them in bulk for years now and there was a batch that had 3-4 case ruptures per box (50 rounds)! The first time we faced this was at a season closing shootout, free ammo kind of event. Luckily we mostly shot russian made TOZ8 rifles that are so overbuilt that the backblast could not really hurt them (except for a bent extractor), but some guys brought their own guns and had two catastrophic failures that day (blown up bolt+mag and a blown out magazine) until we realized that there is something seriously wrong with this ammo. We disassembled a whole box of rounds and turned out that some of them had way too much primer in them, that caused the ruptures, not overcharging.
If I may, you left out a step at the beginning of the vid when showing disassembly. You removed the mag and fired the weapon. You should have removed the mag, racked the action to the rear to observe the chamber to make sure a round wasn't in the chamber before you fired the weapon, then disassembled the weapon. Thank you for you time and consideration in this matter.
I would think that part is common sense, to make sure the weapon is empty. Also I was at a shooting range so no harm done by pointing it down range and pulling the trigger. I see what you're saying, but it should be common sense. And yes I know there are some idiots out there, but it's not my fault they are idiots. I mean hell, I'm being called an idiot on here for not checking the barrel and avoiding the gun blowing up, so maybe you're barking up the wrong tree...
You would THINK it's common sense??? You don't know??? It is common sense so why wouldn't you check it first??? I've never EVER seen in the gun safety rules where if you're at a gun range you don't have to clear your weapon properly to disassemble it. Right again, Yep, there are some idiots out there. So if it's not your fault do we blame your parents???
@@hotrodpc66 Can you stop the semantics on the play on words bullshit? Thanks. Yes, I would THINK it's common sense to make sure a firearm is unloaded before disassembling it. I say *think* because I'm not trying to be a dictator like you, because who am I to say what is common sense for the masses? And I already knew the gun was empty, so I don't need to check it again. Even so, as an added step of safety, I pointed the gun down range and pulled the trigger, which would cause any live round to be fired down range. I don't need to check the chamber if I already know it's empty and even pulled the trigger downrange for added security. So the weapon was cleared, so what the hell is your problem? I'm sure roughly around this point in my response you are thinking of firing back that I should visually inspect the chamber anyway before disassembly, to which I reply, tomato-tamato. So save your breath, because I was already certain the weapon was empty. If you don't like my method of verifying such, too bad schmo.
@@hotrodpc66 " I would think" is a phrase used when you are imagining what is going on in other people's mind, but can't be certain what they are actually thinking. Its like you're just looking for a reason to be hostile and settled on his language because you didn't find anything else. Please, settle down. its unreasonable to expect others to be 100% perfect all the time. Especially when there is more than one way to skin a cat. Sometimes that is hard to remember when talking about guns, where habits are so important with safety.
Not hostile at all. BUT, it's gun safety we're talking about, not operating a can opener where it's just "OK" to accept and make a mistake, and then be arrogant about it and refer to others as idiots when.... But then again, it appears there's one born every minute. NO, it's NOT unreasonable to expect others to clear a weapon properly EVERYTIME 100% of the time. That's exactly how you develop the proper habits and safe handling. Don't discount it as it's "OK" to not do it EVERYTIME.
The issue was the ammo, not the gun, so I believe it. My buddy has several thousand rounds through his as well without even cleaning it and it still runs...
I've never had or seen a "Squib" round in person. I can't imagine what a larger caliber would've done to both you, cameraman and the pistol. I'm going to watch the follow up video next. New Sub👊
I have not had this problem with CCI Stingers ever. But I'm sure it's possible as I have had this happen with Winchester(no damage). I would guess one of the loading machines got out of time. Will see what final outcome is.
I've had a lot of people comming forward on the 2 videos about having issues with CCI ammo lately. They've gone down the crapper because they were bought out by another company.
I had the same happen to me recently. I was shooting CCI Mini Mags through my Ruger SR 22. I have fired hundreds in 5 years, and this was a first. But, I have also had many misfires lately, 3 years after your incident. I no longer use CCI products.
I had some Fiocchi WMR 22 that about one out of 15 was a squib. I gave a few boxes of it to an NRA trainer to use it for training new shooters about squib loads. He was really excited about it! :) I told him "Remember to bring a rod with you to poke the dud bullets out of the barrel with." I'm old and always alert for a squib load.
I suspect that the two loads that popped cases and then the barrel had little to zero powder charge behind them. With the push that manufacturers have made in recent years to keep up with .22LR ammo demands, quality has suffered. Obviously CCI is not immune to this pitfall, even with stellar quality historically. The lesson to be drawn from this should be to ensure a clear bore in any firearm that a misfire is encountered, regardless of caliber, center fire or rim fire. Thank goodness you and yours were not injured and thank you for posting the video as hopefully it can serve as a lesson for shooters in the future. I don’t fault you in any way mind you, as many of us who cycle through 10’s of thousands of rim fire rounds a year tend to get complacent, believing that “awe it’s just a .22”.
My experience with my TX22 was really different than yours. At my first range session, I had malfunctions every 2-3 rounds. My instructor was unfazed, saying it was to be expected with breaking-in a new gun, and just to clean it when I got home. So I cleaned it, but in my second range session still had a lot of malfunctions... until I switched ammo. I had been using Federal Auto-Match bulk; changing to Federal Champion (non-bulk) gave much better results. In a third session I continued mostly with Champion and continued to have better performance. In the fourth session, using Champion exclusively, I had one malfunction in 71 rounds. Next day, no malfunctions in 64 rounds. Next day (today) one malfunction in 64 rounds. I'll continue to shoot daily, hoping it breaks-in the gun enough for a class at the end of a week. Your experience with the CCI Stingers is startling, since everything I've seen about CCI is only raves.
Yeah I used to be one of the ones raving about them. I found out after this video that the company was bought out, which explains the recent drop in quality. Watch my follow up video to this for more details. As far as your malfuntions go, always use copper plated high velocity ammo for best results (36-40gr bullets in the 1200fps range). Also, put a mark on one of the mags and see if the malfunction keep happening with one mag or both. If it only happens with one mag, then there is your problem. Good luck. Also, being a new tx22 owner, you might want to check out the problem videos I have posted about this gun, problems I encountered after this video. Everything is easily accessed in my .22 playlist on the channel.
My main ammo for my 22's is CCI, never had a problem. With any ammo and even firearms, you do once in a while come across a bad single or batch. Tough gun not to have blown apart in your face, new mag and new barrel and you are good to go. Good video, teaches those that dont know that if the sound is lower on a shot, you stop firing and inspect everything. For me if not after the first case blown after the second one blew apart i would have stopped using that box of ammo and reported it to the manufacturer. New shooters should pay attention to this, if anything doesnt seem right, STOP AND INSPECT. If your new and dont have a lot of knowledge of guns then go to a gun smith, thats what they are there for. The choice is, have a malfunction and shrug it of keep firing and possibly hurt yourself or someone else or spend some money and have an expert check it out for you and be safe.
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A footlong section of neon colored weedwhacker line is an absolutely fantastic way to quickly check a .22 pistol for a bore obstruction, cut one and throw it in the range bag. You can just slip it in the chamber and poke until it's out the muzzle... or not.
Taurus now includes a neon orange zip tie, I now know why. It is just long enough to check for barrel obstructions. If you shoot non-plated bullets check for leading if accuracy drops.
🤣 That's hilarious
@@BuckeyeBallistics the sad state of 22 LR manufacturing
Good idea
How clever. I think I had an almost squib once but I think it made it out of the barrel. Was with a Ruger Mark II.
**ATTENTION** - **UPDATE** Final update video is up with all the details about CCI's & Taurus's response and how it is being handled ( ruclips.net/video/XCeUOwIY6ys/видео.html ). I keep getting asked what happened but the video has been up for over a month... (Original comment) Alright everyone, gonna post this up top because the amount of comments I get daily on this is becomming too much to keep up with. First of all, any and all negative comments will be ignored from here on out. I'm not going to have the same conversation 10 times a day with the same kind of know it all people every freaking day.
I have been shooting for 20 years, easily over 100,000 rounds fired total, from .22's to .50 caliber guns. In those 20 years and hundreds of thousands of rounds fired, I have never once experienced a squib load until this video. I also have always trusted CCI .22 ammunition 100%, because it has always worked 100% flawless for me for 20 years, unlike other brands. Thus I was in complete and utter disbelief initially that the issue could be my ammo, and also, having never experinced a squib load ever in the past 20 years of shooting, I was negligent in noticing the "obvious" signs when it finally happened to me because I didn't know what to expect having never experienced it before.
Now that I experienced this firsthand, yes I will absolutely be checking after each questionable round from here on out. Secondly, if you don't like the occasional profanity, you are free to go elsewhere. I will not sensor myself when I have freedom of speech in this country and even on this very platform to say as I wish. I have also set my channel as "not for children", so I have no remorse for my occasional language. Funny thing is, most of you probably watch rated R movies which contain plenty of profanity, yet you think you get to come on my channel and tell me not to curse. Hypocrites! This is my channel, this is my show. If you don't like it, change the channel...
You are wrong about one thing: this is not your private channel. This is a public place and people are browsing the content and have a right to criticize it in constructive not offending manner. If one subscribes to you PRIVATE channel, goes to your channel to watch your videos, he/she should not complain then.
Do not take me wrong, me personally, I am not offended by your language because occasionally I use the same language and actually I learned from your mistake that I should be aware of many aspects of shooting including squib loads. Thanks for that.
I sort of to admire people, like you, who are trying to share their experience and by doing that expose themselves to different kind of comments that in many cases are offending . There is always a douchebag among the audience who is lecturing people but at the same time did not demonstrate own achievements... because douchebags don’t have achievements except one: being a douchebag.
Thanks for the video and I am subscribing to your channel because I am curious what happened next .
I never said this is a private channel. And yes, people can criticize all they want, just as I can ignore them all I want, or even delete their comments! So in reality, as the creator, I have the power to say what goes and what doesn't, not the community. I can actually set my channel to where all comments have to be approved by me first before they can ever be publicly viewed, or never viewed, my choice. So if I was so inclined, I could do such and only allow comments to post that tickle my fancy and gratify me. But I don't do that for a reason: because people have freedom of speech, and their speech shouldn't be dictated by me. So why do they try to dictate *my* speech, when I have given them the freedom to say whatever they wish, even condemning and insulting me? Because as you said, they are hypocritical "douchebags" and have no clue that I actually allow them to say what they say, even if damaging to me or my image.
Anyway that's my 2 cents. Thanks for commenting and subscribing. Hopefully I will have an update soon for everyone...
Guns&Cars you know comments on gun channels are the worst.
Did you manage to contact CCI and if so what did they say?
@@tray22 Yeah I talked to them today, still going through the process. I will release a video about it when I have more info. So far they want me to send back the blown cases and other stingers I have from the same lot to them for investigation, not surprisingly. I'm still emailing back and forth right now after calling, pissing me off a lit bit that it couldn't all be handled over the phone to be completely honest, but we'll see how it pans out. The guy didn't seem too thrilled that I had a youtube channel either...
A smart person learns from their mistakes.
A wise person learns from the mistakes of others.
Thank you for this video!
I'm 45 years old, been shooting 22's since I got my first rifle when I was 10. I have NEVER seen this happen. Thank you for sharing it and letting us learn from your experience. Godspeed Brother.
On a side note.... I would have said worser things.... hell with the haters
Thanks man
I agree, same here
You have never seen a .22 squib? I have seen several (I'm 60) but likely less than 10 total. I shoot competition and have witnessed others make the squib mistake. More common with reloads but not unheard of with rim fire.
@@rdanpauley1992 ,
I've been shooting 22LR for probably over 50 years and I've never had, or heard of a squib round in 22LR.
@@minerblue9641 it definitely happens from time to time. I've had it happen to me once. And seen it one other time when it happened to a guy next to me at the range.
Absolutely valuable information for all of us who shoot. How many of us know about squibs but never experienced one? Glad it wasn't worse for you and thank you for the very stark reminder that it can and does happen.
the rule has always been that you stop fireing at the First indication of an underpowered round. a squib. and check to see that the barrel is clear. sorry about your luck. be glad you werent fireing a high powered weapon. you learned a good lesson.
Yeah see I thought it was just a failure to eject, because there was no recoil or sound; but it was a priner only squib. Learned my lesson the hard way but from now on I know to stop and pull the barrel. Thanks for watching.
Guns&Cars same thing happened to me today with my marlin 60 a dud and it sounded like the bullet was just throw
I got confused because it didn’t cycle and I thought it was a misfire but I found no powder smell from the brass.
@@rocco3686 What ammo were you shooting?
Guns&Cars Winchester 36 grain hollow points like the 555 box’s some of the bullets actually fall apart while I’m my pocket
@@rocco3686 Yeah I don't like those either, usually have feeding issues. But I've never had one be a super light load or fall apart. Quality control anymore is becoming a joke it seems...
Tough pistol. Good thing it wasn't catastrophic, meaning it stayed together and didn't harm you.
Kind of a selling point for the pistol... 👍
@@christopherhamilton5557 22? Nah look up the hi point that had like 12 rounds lodged in the barrel.
Tough pistol? Are you for real? The Gdamn back strap of the magazine well fell out of a brand new Taurus PT 247 I had bought. Got jumped by gangbangers and almost got put 6' under. Fuck Taurus! I'll buy 10 Kel Techs b4 a Taurus!
Smith n Wesson M&P 22 like I own along with
my Smith n be Wesson 40 cal you get what you pay for.
@@ControlsEngineerOne Either way, I'm glad your ok.
as a kid 45 years ago i used to shoot a couple hundred 22s a week with hardly ever a fail to fire, now days it seems every box has several duds
Yeah I've always avoided the cheaper .22 ammo because of this. Saddens me to get a squib from CCI, especially at $8 per 50rds.
Same here. 25 years ago a box of .22LR was but a couple bucks. Never experienced more than a handful of light loaded cartridges or the like back then, even from $5 value packs of 550 rounds. In response to the demand for .22LR in recent years, it seems that no manufacturer is immune to serious quality control issues, generally 1-2 per box of 50. Federal has of late been the most reliable of the last 10k rounds I’ve shot. Of the 500 rounds of federal I shot yesterday (Ruger precision bolt gun), four were obviously lightly loaded but did manage to propel the bullets down range, albeit at subpar velocities.
I have owned a sears 22lr rifle for 40 years and shot it over 20,000 times without a misfire, or a squib. And none of it was cci ammo. This guy must have a bad batch for that many problems.
That is a interesting post ! I am in a gun club here in Germany using , like many others, a perfect condition Walther GSP in . 22 LR. But discovered more and more problems fireing the 2. shot out of a mag with 5 rds. Federal Champion .22 LR. Sometimes it is failing to fire apx. one or 2 out of a box of 500, or it is not strong enough to push the slide far enough to eject the spent / feed the 2. Not realy a squib, bullet went out of the barrel - but almost. Stopped using Federal, switched to RWS Semi Auto. Maybe the same Problem with that CCI Stingers ?
Federal and cci are the same company. Federal is usually quite good for bulk pack .22 but I believe Champion is the cheapest Federal brand.
Always check your bore when you think something isn’t right ! Personally I check mine after every misfire or fail to eject and I also check after every mag ! Great learning vid 👍
Two biggest causes of gun accidents according to the NRA; Ignorance and Carelessness. I plan to use this video to teach Basic Pistol students what not to do. CCI should use this video as evidence the real failure occurred between the shooter's ears. His comment about his 9mm and 45 being 'real guns' should tip off viewers he doesn't have a safe attitude about firearms.
I remember those sweet days of the past when I could find ammo to buy and enjoy target shooting without wincing at every expended round.
Those were the days man 😞
That's me too, counting the dollars and cents with every shot before, during and after.
2.00 a round through a 30-30. If someone broke into my house with a gun, paying my medical bills might be cheaper than returning fire.
@@Grassroots_Hegemon
*(: Insert "Sad but true," laughing emolji's ;)!
I know right I’ve been waiting a year and a half for my ammo order to come in and it’s still not gonna be here until August
The video should be called "CCI Stinger review - ends catastrophically".
I have had issues with stinger ammunition in lighter semi-auto. It is a very powerful round for a .22, and when the shell is ejected, I have had rounds explode. I have also had a firing pin break.
I now save the stingers for bolt action rifles, where the round is left in the chamber until after it is manually ejected.
I believe that bullet that got caught in the barrel was the result of the round exploding when ejected, so that the bullet did not have enough power to get through the barrel. Could be wrong, but that has been my experience.
Ya taurus did fine cci screwed up
I only use Stingers in rifles.
@@johnturner2585 No, the ammunition was fine. It's the cause of firing a new pistol without checking the chamber or the barrel, He had plenty of hints things were going to go wrong and he ignored all the signs.
This he should change the title
Well, I guess we all learn something new no matter how many times we do the same thing. Glad you were not harmed!
Yup, still learning, and thanks.
Just had some old CCI std velocity that were splitting on the rim in a marlin bolt action rifle.
We had one round crack open right where the firing pin struck vectoring combustion gas right back through the bolt.
Me too, that could've been tragic, specially with .22 ! Others are say lucky it wasn't a bigger rd, ....well yeah, an maybe Providence shines down on all of Us about all the Time !
💯❤️🇺🇸 !
The brass on the stinger is a hair longer, and I've had some problems with semi automatic weapons !!!
Damm
No matter what any one has said about this I am so grateful that the gun was made well and and didn't literally blow apart. Yes even a .22 lr can blow apart. I am even more grateful that you are not hurt or worse. Thank you for sharing this with us. I am looking forward to getting 1 of these. I am so happy you shared this with us and I can see Taurus has once again given us a very well made hand gun. Thank You again.
Thanks for being positive
I have to admit that I was almost screaming at the video after the squib, "Check the barrel! Check the Barrel!" Especially after reading the title. But at the same time, I understand. Things sometimes get overlooked. Thanks for letting us learn from you and glad you didn't get hurt.
Can’t be attributed to the firearm. That’s 100% ammo problem
Yup
Nope bad chamber support. My mp 22 fully supported is the better gun. U just want tacticool fde paint job
@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 Did you like your own comment? 🤣
Gsfbffx Pdhhdf I can get the m&p 22 in fde so that’s not the sellling point. It’s not chamber support. It’s just a squib that can happen to any gun
Well if you sit a .22 cci stinger next to a normal .22 lr and really look they are the same length overall but the stinger has a longer casing looks like to me maybe the one that busted the end off it was due to that reason alone... But I wasn't there. I love shooting cci ammo and I've easily shot over 50000 rounds of cci stingers alone in my 10/22 ruger but just like with this video it has a ton of controversy on the type of ammo it can shoot
I've never seen a blown case on a .22 before. I'm glad you weren't hurt.
It was from 2 squib loads, because a bullet being stuck in the barrel increases the pressure and blows out the case. It's possible the first one was a fluke or fired out of battery, but the 2nd one was definately a squib.
Xcobra122 never shot any Remington subsonic? ;)
ZXXflyer Never shot any .22 subsonic. I don’t really see the point. If you’re going to push a small projectile that slow then maybe look into an air gun.
@@BallisticGrandpa subsonic with a silencer is quiet....
Subsonic and standard are all I use in my rifles because they are ALWAYS more accurate.
BTW I only squirrel hunt with air rifles because their more accurate and quieter than .22s.
As a fairly new gun enthusiasts I appreciate you sharing this. I still have a lot to learn and this is just reinforcing that fact. And Profanity is fine. If I don't like something I avoid it rather than complain about it. Society is becoming weak and overly sensitive. Keep up the good work!
Thanks bud
More experienced shooters would’ve stopped using the ammo at the first signs that it was unsafe. As a new shooter you can learn from his negligent unsafe gun use, knowingly continuing to use defective ammo, as a cautionary what not to do and why case study.
And now thanks to this, I have the experience... have a nice day 😁👍
@@BuckeyeBallistics maybe wouldnt have fired that round thru bad barrel....glad it went ok, but...
@@SomeGuy-hy9zf is not understanding the nature of the test going on.
65 years shooting here and I had my (my wife actually) first squib load yesterday on my snub nosed 38spl. Never have had a misfire, other than just duds, in all this time. Obviously not common. My load was fired by the primer but never left the casing. It projected out into the barrel and jammed the gun. At home I discovered that there was no powder in the casing, just the primer. Fortunately, had half a dozen other guns with me and still had a great start to the new year! Great video, I subscribe.
See that's what I think happened here, that I had a round with zero gunpowder. And a little .22 primer is going to be much quieter than a centerfire primer, thus being completely silent without the bullet exiting the barrel and the action not opening whatsoever to let any sound out. Thanks for subscribing, hope you like the channel. Just started doing gel tests yesterday: uploading tomorrow.
Contrary to the Taurus haters in the comments, I've had no issues with the TX22. The first one I bought was in 2019,soon after they were introduced. 10 thousand rounds later it was stolen. All factory parts, I used CCI exclusively and has zero issues after 150 round break in. One failure to feed during breaking in. I bought my second TX22 a few weeks ago and not surprised, it runs perfectly. As the op of the video does, I shoot tens of thousands of rounds of 22 and never seen a single squib load. I have seen squid load in my 9mm . One. Out of too many rounds to count.
I bought a sig 22 a few years back. It's the only handgun I've ever owned that would not run a full 10 rd mag without a problem. I paid Sig money for garbage.dealer took it back. Shows that different folks can have issues with same gun. It's rare to see a video of problems with this Taurus TX22. By the way, the slide is aluminum. Not Zamac. Or alloy as somebody in comments stated.
Good video. Bad outcome
DUDE I called it!!! So proud of myself 😮 12:31 as soon as you said one had significantly less recoil after it failed to eject, my first thought was "I think I would take that thing apart and look down the barrel, bet there's a bullet still in there." And it happened, wow. Gut instincts, sometimes they're there for a reason.
Wow i learned something new today about monitoring issues with inconsistent ammo cycling. Thanks for posting your experience 😎👍
Yes sir
Thank you for the great video. I have been shooting .22 cal rifles and pistols for over 50 years and have never had this happen. You learn something every day. A very informative and enlightening video. Stay safe and good shooting!!!
Thank you for the support.
I have this gun and absolutely love it. I have shot the cheapest dirtiest ammo I could fund and the best match quality 22 ammo and after probably 2000 rounds through the gun have not had one failure to fire or eject. This is a rock solid gun at a fantastic price.
How’s it holding up years later
The surprise is that such damage to the barrel could occur with .22 rimfire. Rimfire rounds are "pipsqueaks" and "underpowered" - yet a mishap and containment of pressure at what looked like 70% of the way down the barrel, despite the pressure relief of a moving slide, was enough to bulge extremely hard and strong barrel steel!
Very informative, and an object lesson on just how much power we hold in our hands with even a small caliber rimfire weapon. It's to Taurus' credit that their POLYMER weapon withstood the explosion with no injury to the shooter. They may produce weapons at a very affordable price, but obviously they are of very high quality and safety. Thanks for the video - may it be your only misfire.
Good product, says a lot for Taurus to keep on firing after the damage it sustained. Hope I will notice a squib load if it ever happens to me. All in all, glad nothing really bad happened.
Been shooting for 45 years. Never seen a 22Lr do that. CCI is one of the brands I use. Always been reliable.
Actually I think you handled it quite well. I'd be mad as hell if just one of those failures happened to me. Fortunately I've never had a case blow out or a squib load. Yet! But I've had more than a few failure to feed problems with .22 semi-auto rifles. Not with lever and bolt action rifles though. I chalk it up to rim fire ammo just not being as reliable as center fire. Actually this is a good advertisement for Taurus that the weapon still functioned at all after the blow out and then the squib bulging the barrel. Very informative video.
I was at a multi-position outdoor range about 30 years ago. "Cease-fire" was called, and the guy next to me proceeded to extract a chambered, live round from his bolt action. Only the case came out, which he looked at quizzically, then tipped it upside down, at which point the powder poured out. He shrugged his shoulders and set the case down on his bench.
Once the range went hot again, he looked as if he was getting ready to proceed as if everything was good to go. I told him that the bullet must still be in the barrel (he hadn't thought of this!). He then took his rifle, with its hard butt plate, and began BANGING THE BUTT OF THE STOCK, with the rifle VERTICAL, ON THE CONCRETE to try to cause the bullet to dislodge. I thought: "Let me get the HELL away from this guy!" : )
Jesus Christ, that is insane. For one, where the hell did he think the bullet went? Then to smash the gun against the ground like that? Goodbye accuracy. Yeah I would have got the hell away from him too!
One of the many reasons I hate going to a commercial range, but what can you do you gotta shoot where you can shoot.
Yeah good move getting away from him. Most places around here have RSO's on the public ranges. They would have been all over that.
@@TheCowboyfromhell87: They (Trail Glades in Miami) had an older veteran in a booth with a P.A. system watching everyone like a hawk, but not closely enough to catch that (maybe 50 active positions?). I think he was even a consultant for Simmons at some point.
www.miamidade.gov/parks/trail-glades.asp
I have seen him tell someone (in a "drill sergeant" tone of voice) who he'd had to get on to previously that, if they turned around pointing their pistol at him again, he was going to shoot them : )
...sounds like the kind of guy who pours half a gallon of gasoline on camp fire and then sticks his head over it while lighting it.
I'm glad someone was looking out for the moron.
My Walther P22Q squib loaded before I even put 500 rounds through it. Same stuff. Can hardly notice on a 22. Sent it in for warranty repair and Walther apparently doesn't have enough barrels to replace it. Sent it in 3 months ago. Still waiting for it back.
And thank you for sharing this with us. The profanity is eclipsed by the fact that you still published this video showing it all. Thank you for your courage. Just glad you are safe. This is wild.
New barrel is in and it runs great, even somewhat accurate to 100 yards. I plan to post a 100 yard video sometime like I have of my other deserving pistols. Thanks for watching.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Just curious - did Taurus replace the barrel or did CCI pay to have you buy a new barrel or did you just do it? Again, glad you are safe my friend and for posting this video. Lessons to be learned to all of us.
Check out the final update video for all the details, easily accessed on my .22 playlist. In short, Taurus.
I give this review a five out of five stars!! This is real life scenario in real time. I’m thinking Taurus has improved in the years on reliability and quality for the value. CCI on the other had better put their big boy pants on and tow the line!! If they have slacked on quality control that bad, someone could get hurt. Not cool. Thank you for following through with the video and testing everything like a pro. You answered my questions as I was asking them.
Well thank you for all the kind words. A quick scroll through the comments will reveal that not everyone has been so kind. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching and commenting.
22 ammo has been junk since the shortage. They bought all this new equipment to deal with that issue and now its everywhere at fairly close to where it was. So what is a company gonna do? Same thing as lays chips. Gonna take 20 out of each bag to make other bags. Ammunition plants do the same. A few less grains of powder in each round. Honestly Winchester is about the only decent 22 still around. Had nothing but cycle issues with pretty much everything else. And this is in 10 plus 22s that i have shot. Sad
As far as bulk packs go, I have good luck with Federal. Cci doesn't have any excuse when they charge $8 for a pack of 50 of those Stingers...
If you do not clean it before you fired that oil in the barrel is pretty gummy
There is no "oil" in the barrel. This isn't an sks packed in cosmoline...
I can relate to seeing odd malfunctions for the first time. Case and point upon diagnosing an AR-15 who's gas key was so loose I was amazed it wasn't sheared off into the stock. The scarier bit was upon doing a function check with a BCG we had laying around. The trigger hammer had been damaged enough to the point that when firing and doing a reset that It acted like a binary trigger.
Told my buddy what needed replacing and he did just that. Actually I've seen some odd malfunctions so to go 20 years without seeing this is truly impressive. Also dang Taurus did a good job with that barrel, that's quality right there.
Thank you.
Well I gotta be honest and say I would have kept shooting too. Inconsistency’s in .22 ammo is very common especially bulk. I have never had a single issue with CCI and would consider them to be the gold standard for .22 ammo. I didn’t think a .22 had the nut to bulge a barrel. As for the gun, it’s a real shooter. Taurus is finally crawling out of the dumpster and has a few good pistols including the PT111G2.
Yeah I really like my G2 and this TX22 as well. I really liked the Spectrum also, but mine stovepipes. Trying a remedy to that before sending it in...
Umm id say the barrel seating isn't made for the longer 22 stinger. So slide isn't fully going to battery. Most 22 cal pistol and rifles today say not to shoot stingers because of tolerances.
i don't ever think people getting potentially hurt from a firearm detonation is funny, but your reaction was priceless.
What can I say, I'm here to entertain lol.
Bro the only way to learn is through experience. Forget the haters I’m glad that you posted the video and that you or anyone else wasn’t hurt. 👊🏻👍🏻
Thanks, and me too, because it's my #1 video now lol.
100's of thousands of rounds, I would say that's experienced. Either way good video. Newbies should watch this.
Chris Gilbert m8 in England we haven’t got the same access to pistols so I watch and comment and watch as much as I can while I’m waiting for my pistol 🔫 👍🏻👊🏻
@@leegriffiths4986 Merica is great for something's. Just remember not all TUBERS know what their talking about. Shoot straight and be safe.
Chris Gilbert are you based in England then bro as it says Mercia or are u in America ether way thanks for the advice. Av a good Xmas and new year
CCI hasn't been the same since it was merged into ATK. It's now part of Vista Outdoors along with Federal. CCI ammo can now come from Federal factories.
Ahhh, see, I was telling a few people that I just read about Federal having their hands in the business, and was wondering if that is causing some of the issues. I was confused today when the shipping label they sent me for the ammo said Vista Outdoors. Thanks for the info.
Is Federal ammo not reliable? Sorry I don't own a gun yet but wanted to know what's good and not.
@@Jahalang82 Federal bulk pack seems to be the most common rimfire ammo that people call "unreliable". Center fire ammo is commonly seen as far more reliable than rimfire. Federal center fire ammo has a great reputation. Here is one of the best YT gun channels on .22LR reliability. ruclips.net/video/JiMNASuw69U/видео.html
@@Jahalang82 Federal makes good ammo. But in the .22 world, CCI was one of the best, better than federal, as far as .22 ammo goes. Rimfire .22 ammo as a whole is notoriously unreliable compared to standard centerfire cartridges like 9mm, .45, 5.56, etc. Back in the day you could trust CCI'S .22 ammo to be as reliable as any centerfire cartidge, but maybe those days are gone now.
@@bills6093 thanks for the link to that video.
I worked at an indoor range for thirty years and I’ve seen a whole lot of stuff happen.
All the problems that’s discussed in the NRA handgun safety class has happened.
We had problems with CCI Stingers and Tula.
CCIs had more than a few misfires and occasional squibs while the Tula blew up our Glock 21.
As for problem guns, number one on the list is the Desert Eagle. Pain in the butt, high maintenance and parts are prone to breakage. We stocked half dozen firing pins, pistons and recoil springs at all times. We even had four back-ups and the biggest headache was that every year, they’d slightly change the parts design. There was a hang-fire with it once. Our instructor was just about to rack the slide and it went off.
No injuries, thank God!
1911s were prone to breaking too. The bigger the name, the higher the price, the quicker they died. The cheapest Rock Island GI model lasted the longest!
Beretta 92fs were humbug in the beginning, with the locking block and slide cracking after a couple thousand rounds... Towards the end, they changed the metal composition and they started to outlast Glocks!
Barrels would fall off the S&W 686 after about a thousand rounds...Just snapped right off. But the Taurus Tracker and Raging Bull had an even shorter life span.
Trackers would go out of sync and not advance the cylinder while the Raging Bull would snap it’s trigger post.
Damn shame because it’s a really accurate 44 mag. At 30’, I could poke all 6 shots in the same hole!
With the ported barrel and extra cushion grips, I could shoot all day without my hand going numb!
Wow, thank you for all that information. Several of the guns you mentioned are on my wish list, but now I'm not so sure lol. The Rock is a great 1911 for sure; been shooting the same one for a couple years now and it works flawless, every time.
@james avery Yes, it was a recurring problem. We stopped using Smith and went to Taurus but that didn't work out well either. Their revolvers had an issue with timing. We'd cock the hammer and the cylinder lock wouldn't engage so it didn't lock. Fortunately, it wouldn't fire either!
We then tried Ruger GP100, which lasted a little longer. The trade-off was the GP100 has a lot of tiny parts that like to roll off the counter and hide and requires three hands to reassemble.
@@BuckeyeBallistics To be fair, we put a 1000 rounds every few days through our guns. Moderate shooters probably wouldn't shoot that much in a lifetime!
I'm assuming they have all that sorted out now? We probably have 500rds through our Rock, will have to see if it continues to hold up after 500 more.
@Travis Thacker Oh ok, yeah ours is the 5". Have a Colt and a Ruger as well, and a Girsan to play with (buddies). I love my Ruger honestly, but the Rock is a tank.
Great video. I have been shooting for 2 decades now and I learned a lot from your experience with the CCI ammo. The experience of others in the comments about the importance of thoroughly inspecting your barrel after a suspected squib round was also invaluable. I urge you to change the title of this video; all shooters (of 22 and any caliber) should see this. The importance of taking your time and inspecting any change in felt recoil, and examine your weapon (including the barrel) can't be overstated. This video should, as has been suggested before, be labeled CCI Stingers -- Ends Catastrophically. Like many, I almost skipped this video thinking it was going to be some Taurus quality-related malfunction. If anything the Taurus provided its value and toughness. Even I squib 22 hit by another round can result in serious injury. Sorry about your barrel, but keep the videos coming. Good work.
That’s your fault, he can title the video whatever he wants, don’t like it keep scrolling buddy. It isn’t his responsibility to keep others safe. It’s not safe to play with guns so if you do you’re taking a chance, so yeah he ain’t gonna change the title buddy
Great video and awesome explanation of what a squib round is in you comments. Glad you didn't get injured from it. I hope CCI will step up to make it right. They have a great reputation so I hope they take steps to maintain it. I'm sure, as other people have stated, Taurus will send you what you need to fix the pistol if you get a hold of them. Good luck and stay safe.
Thanks, appreciate you.
I'm so glad that you were not hurt. I had an issue once with a bad round a long time ago. That TX22 did what it was supposed to do. It blew out the mag well. Hat's off to Taurus for building a good strong weapon. Hope everything works out for you. Hammer Down brother.👍
Thank you for the kind words friend. Had I not already pinned my own comment at the top to adress all the hate I'm getting, I would pin yours. Thank you for the support, hope you're a subscriber...
@@BuckeyeBallistics yes I am a subscriber. Don't worry about the "strong language". You should have heard my mouth when I when I encountered my ammo issue.😂👍
@@bryanhackett Exactly! One guy I even told: if ever I had an excuse to drop the F bomb, pretty sure a brand new gun blowing up in my hand is such an excuse! Glad to have you as a subscriber Bryan, and thanks for watching.
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The taurus tx22 is probably one of the best budget/22lr pistol's that I've ever owned.
Your problem definitely seems ammo related. Cci is generally known for their high quality 22lr ammo. Sorry to hear that happened to you. The only issue that I've ever had with my tx22 was,
one of the mags that I received when I purchased the pistol was defective. (Taurus replaced the defective mag)
Otherwise the gun ran like a champ. Even with cci stingers. The pistol (with good ammo) is so reliable I purchased a second one. Hope you get this issue resolved and a new barre,l so you can get back on the range.
Don't let it ruin your holiday.
God bless and be safe.
You're the first person I've heard of having mag issues. The only issue I knew of was the bad barrels the early ones had, which I made a video about. I sent the ammo back to CCI last week, waiting to hear back. I would just order a new barrel and ask CCI to reimburse me for it so I can get to shooting it again already, but they are on backorder due to Taurus having to replace all the bad barrels. So it's going to be a while either way. Sucks, cause I had other videos planned with this pistol...
@@BuckeyeBallistics
When I purchased the pistol it came with two 16rd mags. The first mag I loaded and fired no problems.
Not a stovepipe, failure to feed, worked great. The second mag.... I noticed right off that there was something wrong.
When loading about half way through the ammo started to bind up. I was using cci mini mags. I tried different ammo, same problem.
When I did get all 16rds load in the mag, after about 8rds the gun wouldn't feed properly. I tried the first mag again, no problem.
So I knew it wasn't the gun. After examining the second mag more throughly, I noticed that it bowed inwardly, just slightly. Enough to cause feeding issues.
I contacted taurus and they sent me two new replacement mags free of charge. (Took awhile, but worth the wait) and as I said earlier, the gun runs like a champ!
Reliable, accurate and you can't beat the price! Never was a big fan of taurus before, but now I own several. Taurus has really upped their game!
Hang in there.
Yeah the tx22 is sweet, and I love my G2 also.
@@BuckeyeBallistics
If you like the G2c (which is really a sweet gun), you gotta get the G3.
Not as concealable as the G2c, but better trigger, balance and higher mag capacity.
And for under $300 (in my opinion), you can't buy a better 9mm. Shoots straight and goes bang every time.
Taurus has really brought their game up.
Have a safe and happy new year.
By the way, great job on the video.
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Damn I wouldn't believe it if someone told me but actually watching it is crazy. Glad you're ok brother!
Thanks for sharing. Glad you guys were not harmed.
Thanks for watching
Glad I watched this. I just purchased a TX22 and put 500 rounds of Remington thunderbolt through it with not one faure of any kind. I cleaned and lubed it before I took it out. It was dirty from the factory. I was impressed with the gun, ergonomics and accuracy. I will be paying attention from now on to catch any load inconsistency. Thanks and great video. Swear all you want...I don't give a fuck.
Congratulations on the video, won my tumb up for the courage and honesty to disclose what happened to you. We have seen in other channels that when ammunition is reloaded, the blame is blamed on the weapon manufacturer, but this time there is no way to do it. And yes, it was the ammunition manufacturer's fault. I hope the CCI will cover its damage with the weapon.
Still working with CCI, supposed to hear something next week. Will post update video when all said and done. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@BuckeyeBallistics did anything ever happen with cci?
Check out the update videos in the .22 playlist on the channel...
Yep, sub Sonics rarely cycle through anything but super light slide springs and slides made of aluminum. The CCI though I love the Blazer Brass in 9mm in 22 subsonic they are the same as regular 40 grain ball , they just scrimp on the powder inside. It’s a way to cheap out and hide by stating it’s quieter.
The Taurus TX22 is a very reliable gun. Feed it good ammo like Federal / Winchester etc. it’ll run great.
actually the gun contained it very well, you were saved by it !
So basically any time we see a failure to extract we should inspect the barrel for obstruction. That was crazy, I’m glad we could learn from your mishap.
And I'm glad you're learning as I did, instead of being a know it all jackass like other people one here and judging me. So yes, those of us who aren't know it alls learned something from this. I'm glad I learned with a .22 lol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
One thing is apparent from the video - the length of the slide motion on recoil varied from shot to shot. Sometimes it was obviously going all the way to the rear and others you could see it almost short-cycling.
Well I love the Taurus TX-22 and haven’t ever had an issue with it I was like this has to be ammo related!
Yup, definately ammo.
Thank you for the video. Good information about Stingers. Production problems happen to the best of us. It took a man to put this up.
Thank you
So far the only ammo failures I’ve had out of my tx22 is Winchester copper plated hollow points. The 22 thunderbolt ammo was perfect for the 500 rounds. And the 3 50 rd boxes of cci I shout through it were also flawless. And I can tell you examining the ammo for the Winchester hollow points they are terribly made.
Yeah those winchesters jam in almost everything I have.
Federal is the best bulk/brick I have found, for future reference.
I went shopping without a barrel light in my pocket and bought one of these, brand new. I have three things to say. Bring a light, take a look down the barrel, and compare it to ANY other similar manufacturer/model. If you still want it, that's up to you (mine had rifling on the top and almost none on the bottom, and it had about 20 jagged rings - I believe it's called "chatter" - that were easier to see than the rifling). Second, based on the complaints on YT and the forums, there are a lot of people on the barrel replacement list -- not the slide, not the firing pin, not the trigger assembly, not the clips, the BARREL. There's a reason for that. Third, the features and ergonomics were exceptional.
Yeah I made a video shortly after this about those barrel issues to warn people since Taurus has refused to recall these guns.
I'm 57, and I started shooting my first 22lr at 9 years old. I have NEVER had a case on any CCI blow out, a squib load, or that many malfunctions in one outing! Good thing is Taurus lifetime warranty. I guarantee between CCI, and Taurus it will get fixed for free!
Taurus warranty states they will not cover damage done to the firearm due to faulty ammo, which is inderstandable, because ot's not their fault. Also, you have to fill out the registration within 30 days or void the warranty...
That will make me not choose Taurus. I will chose the Ruger over this one.
Taurus should of just given you a barrel.
@Mike Carr - They did
Thank you for this, it's looking like each time I shoot my gun I'll have to have a camera going due to the crap you had to deal with... Again thanks for this...
Or or sell your gun🤔and get a glock
I absolutely love my TX 22. Honest to God, I had a blown case exactly like yours happened to mine
Thank God you are OK too
I knew right away what happened in your video. I had this happen when I was 16 with a rifle called the Nylon 66. They have a Mannlicher stock. I was shooting shooting at a target when one round made a muffled sound. The next round was loud, and it and subsequent shots blew a puff of air back at me and my groups were all over the place. I walked home and was cleaning the gun. I noticed a dull spot in the barrel and was scrubbing and scrubbing to get it cleaned out. On the Nylon 66 you can rotate the barrel 90 degrees and take it out, which I did. Then I scrubbed and scrubbed. One of the times when I was flipping the barrel end for end I felt my hand go over a bulge. It's crazy I didn't notice it until that point because it was incredibly obvious. The bulge had lengthwise splits in the barrel around the bulge, and that barrel was a lot thicker than on your hand gun. The puff in my face was caused by the gas escaping from the slits in the barrel and part of it being channeled through the Mannlicher stock back to my face in the scope area. The gun was a Remington and so was the ammo. I called a radio station and they told me to contact the manufacturer. My dad was listening to radio on the way home from work and instantly recognized my voice. Remington gave me instructions to send in the gun and ammo. I thought I'd be out of business for a while, but not so. They sent back their most expensive version of the gun and 500 rounds of ammo right away. I paid attention to weaker than normal shots from then on. This is not just a CCI issue nor does it have anything to do with the so-called power of the CCI to be able to do that to a barrel. Standard ammo does every bit as much damage. I would learn later that rim fires are prone to this and old-timers are smart and knew this. There were guns in the past that were 50 cal. and larger with some used in machine guns that were rim fire.
I have not read all of the comments, so forgive me if I am repeating another reply. The case on the Stinger is longer than a regular .22 LR round. Certain manufacturers, in their literature, specifically say NOT to use Stinger ammunition in their firearms because of this extra length. This is because the chambers are not bored deep enough to accept the longer case. This may be the case with the Taurus. I have 2 match 10/22 barrels where this applies. A shorter chamber results in better accuracy to limit bullet jump. I suspect what happened when the case head blew out is that the round never went fully into battery, leaving the head unsupported. When the round went off, the brass blew out. This could have been partially due to some powder residue or other material in the chamber. About 50 years ago I owned a Remington semi-auto rifle, and for what ever reason, a round would not fully chamber every once in a while, but when the trigger was pulled, the round went off. Very scary, with brass and fire coming out of the ejection port. Did I mention loud? In those days there really was no ear protection used outdoors with a .22. Ears rang for a while! Oh, and we didn't have Stingers back then either. For what it's worth, I would stay away from the Stingers. Good luck with the diagnosis.
I didn't fully explain the problem a longer case causes in my original post. The case will jam into the rifling because of a chamber not long enough, which in turn can cause the case to collapse and grip the bullet tighter. The result is that there is no room for the bullet to ramp up to speed; there is essentially a plugged barrel. You may have gotten away with it if the barrel was clean, but a bit of powder residue combined with the long case could certainly cause the round to not go fully into battery.
Yes I have covered this a few times in the comments, but you are forgiven friend because I don't expect you to read over 1000 comments lol. To start, the manual for the TX22 does not state to not use Stingers, nor does it say anything about any other ammunition for that matter. I have seen in other manuals however for other guns, as you metioned, "no stingers," but no such thing in this one. I have known about the longer case on them and the problems it *could* cause for many years. With that being said, most, if not all modern produced .22's are built to accomodate this, except for match barrels as you mentioned. In regards to the chamber being dirty enough to cause the round not to seat properly, even with the longer stinger cases, I doubt it. Every shot you saw in the video was the very first rounds through the gun, so not nearly enough to start gumming it up yet. Also my friend has 3 TX22's, and his first one he put 6000 rounds through it just to see how long it would run without cleaning it, and it kept running the whole time with zero issues. So considering both of these facts, it's extremely unlikely that the case didn't seat fully, even with the stinger. But in conclusion, I will point out that the round that caused the explosion in the end and ruined the barrel, was a dead silent squib. Someone tried to say the longer case thing could cause a squib if the bullet was already jammed into the rifling, and thus "stuck." That theory may hold some merit, IF there was still a bang or pop from the round. But my squib was dead silent, meaning it failed to ignite the propellant and was lodged in the barrel by the primer- then the following round slammed into it and caused the explosion. Either way I appreciate the time you took to explain what you did about the longer case, so I hope you find this reply engaging and worthwhile for your efforts.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Thanks for your time going into the detail that you did. This is truly a mystery as to the cause, and I hope either CCI or Taurus steps up to the plate and makes it right! I have been reloading pistol, rifle, and shotgun for about 50 years now, and had a squib in my 9mm carbine. It was during a rapid fire stage in a match, with the time between shots of about 0.15 seconds. I was surprised that I was actually able to hear it, and more surprised that I was able to stop firing in time. The bullet went just far enough down the barrel to engage the rifling, so I don't think another round would have chambered. I'm getting off topic here, so forgive me. Squibs are dangerous, and I'm glad you weren't hurt. Take care and keep shooting!!
That’s why you should always check your barrel after a failure to eject just in case.
Thank you Captain Obvious!
Bantamdude Rodriguez Thank you so much for your criticism of my comment. My comment wasn’t directed at you who are obviously the go to guy for anything about guns. My comment was for those people who are new to using guns and are looking for sage advise concerning malfunctions. I’ve experienced a squib load before and was fortunate to have had good advice concerning gun malfunctions. If not I might have been seriously injured. Next time you might save your comments for when you have something constructive to say.
I had the same thing happened to me with my Glock 26 using Remington 9mm white box 100 rolls bulk ammo from Walmart Glock said it was the ammo Remington said it was the gun so no one paid for a new barrel I purchased from Lone Wolf. Good Luck getting a new barrel at lease you have a video to show what happened which I didn’t have.
You can watch the follow up video if yoy want to know what happened; I did get a barrel finally a few weeks ago. If that happened to my glock and nobody covered it I would be pissed.
I have shot CCI mini Mag and Stingers almost exclusively through my Walther P22 for years and never had such an issue.
Same, until now.
I thought for sure when the video started it would be the thunderbolts that failed.
Glad you were not hurt.
That's why I saved them for last 🤣
I had case failure once with Thunderbolts, shot nice stinging jet of burning powder and gasses to my hand, from relatively open back end of High Standard....
I have both the G2C and TX22. I love the G2C and I initially loved the TX22 but I noticed a large amount of lead buildup in the barrel after shooting only 100 rds of CCI standard ammo. Did some research and found that a lot of the TX22s are having this problem. Sent it back to Taurus and 15 weeks later still don't have my pistol back. Called Taurus support and found that my TX22 has a bad barrel and that replacement barrels are on back order with no ETA. I'm not happy. I have purchased a Walther PPQ 22 as a replacement. It works and shoots great with no abnormal lead build up. I'll test and then probably sell the TX22 if I ever get it back. I'm keeping the G2C.
Yeah I made a video about the bad barrels, and now I'm waiting with no eta as well to get mine replaced. Have G2 also, awesome gun.
Just watched the rest of your videos on the TX22. Thanks for all the updates. After seeing your video about the barrel issues I think it may have just been extreme fouling rather than a squib that caused the blowout and barrel bulge. From watching this video It didn't seem like a typical squib where a round doesn't exit the barrel since I could hear it strike the steel target. Never seen anything like that before. Thanks again for all the updates.
See, the same reason you are confused right now is the same reason I didn't detect the squib load myself as it happened. It happened when the gun went "click." The one that didn't go off and I ejected it? Well, that was the squib... a dead silent one. Basically only the primer went off either due to no gunpowder in the cartridge, or all of the powder being contaminated and not igniting. Because the bullet didn't exit the barrel and the action of the pistol didn't open, the sound of the little rimfire primer going off was completely contained and bottled up within the gun due to the circumstances. When I chambered the next round and fired, it struck the bullet in the barrel from this silent squib.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Ah I see. I've had squibs with a centerfire pistol before but you could hear the primer go bang. Never had a squib with a rimfire before, good to know. Thanks again.
Jeesh.
Idk if I'll ever get a .22 pistol...
I just hear so many negatives about rimfire.... glad you weren't hurt brother! Looks like Taurus's quality is sturdy and that is comforting. I'll grab the g2c or g3. Academy has them for 199. Even though I swore off buying from Academy lol (always delayed on 4473)
Thank you for such a long, detailed video
I've bee using CCI .22 ammo almost exclusively for 21 years and have never had this happen before. Hopefully this is not a sign of quality slipping at CCI, hopefully just a fluke. I have the G2 and love it, great gun, especially for the price. I already released a video on it a couple months ago if you haven't already seen it. Looks like you'll be a regular, glad to have you abord. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@BuckeyeBallistics ill continue to monitor .22lr through your vids.
I'm digging through your production library. Glad the G2 is working well. I'll be watching those videos in the near future.
Glad to be aboard brother. Talk soon 🍻
@@PARENTALADVISORYPODCAST Awesome man. I do have all my .22 videos under a playlist on the channel for easy access. Since you're a .22 guy you will probably enjoy my 500 yard series I've been working on, and I'm going to do some .22 ammo testing/reviews in the near future. I mean I have a couple already but I have like 50 different kinds of .22 ammo to do videos with.
@@BuckeyeBallistics I'm All in on the .22 series! Yes I am a .22 man Haha I love the dynamics and ballistics of small, distance shots. Also the knowledge of windage, precision, and ballistics needed to proficiently operate .22 calibre has always intrigued me. Most people never cover .22lr/mag and its possibilities!
Cant wait for that series.
Will stand by 👍
@@PARENTALADVISORYPODCAST The series is already up, did 3 videos so far walking it out to 500 yards. I have one more planned...
You curse a lot less than I would have. Glad you weren't hurt.
Thanks
so i am retired Navy... i can type without swearing.... talking...not so much.... YOU, EFFIN, EFFIN...EFFIN...STUPID A$$.... WELL YOU GET THE IDEA....
I thought the same thing, maybe I need to take a long hard look at myself
@@tokin420nchokin Or maybe we shouldn't let others shame us. I mean there are times when we should watch what we say, like maybe around kids or in front of elders or in church. But when a gun just blew up in my hand, I think I'm entitled to be pissed off about that situation and curse. Others commenting on here don't seem to think so. But as I told everyone in my comment that I posted to the top for all to see, everyone is free to change the channel if they don't like it. I won't be scolded by another adult- they can go piss off.
@@isellcatlitter 100% agree
In hindsight, you probably should've stopped shooting the CCI once you realized they were funky haha. Glad that you're safe though. Keep us updated on what happens!
I've been shooting CCI for 21 years without any problems. I was almost in disbelief, thought it was the gun at first because I couldn't believe my go to ammo of the past 2 decades was to blame... Will update when I have info.
You guys are the internet experts, not me. I go out and do the shit; you are the one sitting behind the keyboard...
As I heard, remmington ammo is the WORST for semi autos. My gun dealer told me when I bought a gun like this.
A lot of the Cyclones and Thunderbolts have up and down powder charges from my experience. When you get a low one, it may not cycle the action fully.
Yeah. Im looking into buying Federal 22 lr or cci 22 lr.
I've had a case rupture like this. Here's my conclusion and you can make up your own mind.
There was a tiny bit of debris at the front of the chamber, possible powder residue that allowed the round to chamber, was far enough in battery to fire but not fully seated so when the round went off the unsupported rear of the case blew out. A dirty chamber can cause this to happen but it is rare. This also sometimes happens to older .22's that have eroded chambers.
As to the squib load, it happens with any ammo and though rare it happens more than one thinks but usually to those re-loading centerfire ammo and not paying attention on a progressive loader or getting sloppy in their re-loading. It is very rare but happens with factory ammo.
There was a squib projectile in the barrel when the second round went off and this could cause a rupture case on the second round in the chamber as the gases needed to escape somewhere and the weakest area was the unsupported case as it was being ejected.
I knew immediately when you ejected the case from the squib load what was going to happen because I have seen it before. Most people have no clue about squib loads and fail to notice the tell tale signs assuming a weak round cleared the barrel.
AR-15 owners take note: I have seen several AR-15's blow up from a squib load. Usually a projectile that travelled down the barrel enough to chamber the next round, fire and blow up the barrel! I have seen people who have shot re-loaded ammo that was out of spec. When the round wouldn't chamber properly, eject the round without inspecting it. Sadly the bullet pulled out of the case and was still in the barrel. Next reaction was to chamber a round which sometimes doesn't go into battery fully. Their first reaction is to use the forward assist until a round fits into the chamber. That forward assist, assisted you in chambering a new round and you have sucessfully created a hand held bomb!
As tactical as forward assist are and everybody needs it? I don't use mine. Issues chambering a round tells you STOP! find out what the problem is, and yes check the barrel for obstructions! Run a cleaning rod down the bore or crack it open and look down the bore.
I’m sorry that happened on your new Tx22 video, and thank God you didn’t get injured or killed. I hope CCI or Taurus replace your barrel and magazine. It’s good you have video evidence of mishap, I learned a valuable lesson today through your experience today good luck😢
Man that sucks. Def ammo related' glade you didn't get hurt.
Thanks
tymccutchen not the Ammo that blew up the gun it was him! He shot a round on top of a squib
Damn, dude! Glad you're ok!
And yeah, my language would have gone really salty. Well, I am a sailor, so "swear like a sailor" is quite accurate.
I am impressed by that little Taurus, though. Blew out in a safe direction, kept you safe!
Thanks. And yeah I love the gun, can't wait until my barrel gets here, one day...
I think that when you walk in, the sailors leave the room. Roflmao. But seriously. Who cares. Enough with the hypocrisy of some people. Like you never heard this before.
You may already know by now that there are 2 generations of barrells. I was watching another review prior to this as I am interested in this gun. The first reviewer HAMMER STRIKER had issues with lead being shaved off the bullets he was using and clogging the barrel filling the groves and hard to clean. Apparently TAURUS knew or learned of this and redesigned the barrel assembly, so I for one would be interested in which barrel was in your gun. Other not mentioning the silencer adapter, I really liked your review and the manner you presented it. Thank you.
Yeah I forgot about the silencer part, probably because of what happened. Yes I am aware of the faulty barrels: I made a video about it to warn others. Not sure which mine had because I didn't learn about it until after this video, and mine is full of lead because of the squib load. I'm glad you liked the video, thanks for watching.
Glad you are ok!
There are several videos on barrel issues with the TX22. I have cleaned metal shavings out of mine twice now. Maybe it was not the ammo. I love the gun, but will be investigating with Taurus.
I know, I posted one myself. Some did have bad barrels. However, my issue was a squib load- No propellant ignited, only the primer.
Squib load, clear the gun and check the barrel before you take a second shot
the shooter was fortunate he wasn’t hurt. Squib load, bullet was stuck in the barrel. Shooter didn’t clear the barrel! It is the shooters fault the barrel bulged. Squib load is the ammo Mfgrs fault. But it is the shooters responsibility to stop and clear the gun before shooting any more rounds. I doubt that Taurus will help you with that failure.
Not a negative, but I saw it coming after the first one with no check for obstruction. Then the one with "extra" recoil made it s sure thing. Good lesson for everyone on how picking a culprit too early can blind you to the real problem. Glad you shared it. (Going to view the follow up. I'm guessing a different spring, or you replaced it backwards and that changed the moving mass.)
just what i was thinking
Yessir. Something doesn't add up for me. Curious how the young man made out. 👍🇺🇲
Hey, thanks for posting this. I've had mediocre success with CCI 22's, mostly good, but not 100%. I've had nothing but good luck with the few Taurus handguns I have (no 22's though) so my gut tells me this is an ammo issue (and a safety issue at that). If you contact CCI, please post a follow-up with the outcome. Anytime I have contacted an ammo company to question their quality they have never responded. That includes Hornady, who I happen to like overall. Ammo companies should be held to a high standard in my book. Thanks again!!
Yeah I have spoke to them and sent the ammo back for investigation. I will absolutely be posting a follow up video when everything is settled. Thanks for watching.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Very cool, thanks again.
That is an impressive 22 pistol by Taurus to withstand several ammo malfunctions and to get past a squib without any damage to the shooter and minimal damage to the handgun. Very SOLID design by Taurus. I've seen TWO Glock 22's suffer catastrophic damage from squib ammo, with only minimal injury to the shooters, although both handguns were "totaled", showing that Glock also engineers their guns well. Using a Taurus 66 7-shot revolver, 4" barrel, a shooting acquaintance tested his 357 Mag hand loaded ammo (125 gr JHP) using Hodgdon H110. He liked running maximum loads (22 grains rated at 1966 fps from a 10" test barrel!). At the range I was several benches down from him setting up my bench when I heard an extra loud report EVEN for a 4" barreled 357 Mag revolver. Looking up I saw him saying "Damn Taurus trash" as he loosened a stuck cylinder by hand. I continued my bench set up as he experienced two more cylinder bind ups by the Taurus 66. Finally I watched his 4th shot and saw an incredible fireball out of the muzzle along with the loud report as the cylinder stuck again as he cursed the Taurus trying to un-stick the cylinder. This time I RAN down the walk to his bench waving my arms yelling "STOP" and asked about the ammo. The Taurus ran flawlessly with some Remington 125 gr 357 Mag I happened to have with me. Later at home, I pulled two of his hand loads and found they were loaded with 24 grains of H110, nearly a 10% OVERLOAD of MAX suggested loading! I calculated around 50,000 PSI chamber pressure for the 24 grain 10% overload. I yanked the cylinder from the Taurus and rolled it on a flat steel surface, looking carefully for chamber bulges. There were NONE! That Taurus 66 revolver survived FOUR loads of 50,000 PSI loaded rounds without issue! The primers were literally melting back into the firing pin hole, jamming the cylinder! Many bad mouth Taurus handguns, but I have found them to be very stoutly constructed with good to very good design overall. Occasionally I do see irritating minor problems that should have never passed quality control, but almost always, especially in the revolvers, the fix is quick and simple by a mechanically inclined owner without a return to factory.
Thanks for the story and knowledge. I intend to add a Taurus 44 Tracker to my collection someday soon, along with the Raging Judge Magnum. Previously I had owned a standard Judge and never had any issues with it. I have also owned a PT140 Pro with zero issues in the past 10 years, and a G2 and G3 without any issues. However, with their Spectrum that I owned recently, I had a lot of stovepipe issues with that gun until I got nearly 500 rounds through it. Also my slide just broke on the tx22, which is becomming a more common issue as I briefly touched on in my video showing the damage. At least now they have a lifetime warranty...
Bubba's pissin hot reloads lol
WOW!!! I'm kinda shocked at CCI letting that slip through QC. Thanks for posting this and I will be watching for an update on CCI's response.
The update video was posted months ago. If you go to "playlists" on my channel, I have a ".22" playlist that contains all my .22 videos so you can find it quickly.
@@BuckeyeBallistics I found it and thanks.
Anytime, thanks for watching.
Glad I ran across this. Glad it wasn't catastrophic to yourself. I love my 22's also. Just purchased a Walther IWI Uzi rifle to go with my Uzi pistol lol. Subbed and hope CCI does you right.
Cool thanks for watching and thanks for the sub! Always wanted to shoot one of those uzi .22's...
Wow that was just crazy. I am glad you are ok. I hope CCI makes it right. So very strange.
They did not, see the update video...
Thanks for posting the incident, warts and all. The Taurus seems to be a very good and surely stout gun to contain the squib event/error with the ammo. A good safety wake-up call for us all. Bring along a #2 pencil in your range bag for quick and safe squib checks.
Not sure if a #2 fits in a .22 barrel but if it does that's a great tip.
@@BuckeyeBallistics cleaning rod segment or sized wood dowel piece….same idea. Had a squib once on a Nagant revolver and a dowel rod saved the day...and the gun.
@@chicagorandy I'll have to make sure I throw something in the tool box from no on. Actually speaking of tools, a screwdriver should work as well.
@@BuckeyeBallistics a penlight works too,plus I find the flashlight a little more valuable than just a rod
CCI Christmas ammo I bought in bulk was so bad I thought it had to be my pistols. I mean CCI? Ruled everything else out and send them a sample. Week later a VP called saying (it was tested and malfunctioned and sent me a mailing label) and without a letter or apology replaced everything. Not one extra round for my trouble. Thanks for your vid.
Yeah see, that's shitty customer service right there. There should have *at minimum* been an explanation and apology. And some extra ammo should be in order too. I mean when you send a gun in for warranty work they usually send a free mag back as a "sorry." I didn't have a much better experience with them either. Check out the final update video if you want the whole story.
Mine initially jammed like crazy. Tried different kinds of ammo, not loading the mag fully, lubricating the mag and gun and so forth. After about 500 rounds over several visits to the range I sent it to Taurus for warranty work. They polished the feed ramp and had it back to me within a week. Fired many hundreds of rounds since without a problem.
Interestingly they said not to use hollow points with the tx-22.
That's weird. They probably just said don't use hp's so it would feed reliably, since you were having feeding issues. There is no reason it shouldn't be able to feed hp's all day long, as mine does. I hate to say it but they were probably just bs'ing you so they didn't have to replace the whole gun.
Now that was a interesting video and I myself have experienced a squid load that I was unprepared for and I blew up a high dollar 45 ACP 1911 but fortunately for me no injury now I am very cautious if I hear an underpowered load or anything I immediately clear the weapon and inspect inside the barrel.
Same happened to me with Stingers. Someone at the plant is falling asleep on the job.
When did you buy them? Do you have a lot number? It's on the side, not on the upc code like I thought. I'm going to be letting them know about the other people saying they had issues as well.
Pretty impressive the gun didn't come apart..Very impressive Taurus
I cleaned mine very good before shooting. Clean after every range trip, have about 1300 rounds thru mine with no issues. Much more reliable than my cz shadow 2 22 lr kadet slide assy (a light primer strike occasionally). This was my first taurus, has a nice trigger and fun to shoot. I did pit a front fiber optic dawson precision sight on it.
Almost a year ago we also had problems with CCI ammo (Blazer speccifically). Our range buys them in bulk for years now and there was a batch that had 3-4 case ruptures per box (50 rounds)! The first time we faced this was at a season closing shootout, free ammo kind of event. Luckily we mostly shot russian made TOZ8 rifles that are so overbuilt that the backblast could not really hurt them (except for a bent extractor), but some guys brought their own guns and had two catastrophic failures that day (blown up bolt+mag and a blown out magazine) until we realized that there is something seriously wrong with this ammo. We disassembled a whole box of rounds and turned out that some of them had way too much primer in them, that caused the ruptures, not overcharging.
Well, now I know why they don't just put extra primer material in them to eliminate bad primer strikes. Thanks for the info.
If I may, you left out a step at the beginning of the vid when showing disassembly. You removed the mag and fired the weapon. You should have removed the mag, racked the action to the rear to observe the chamber to make sure a round wasn't in the chamber before you fired the weapon, then disassembled the weapon. Thank you for you time and consideration in this matter.
I would think that part is common sense, to make sure the weapon is empty. Also I was at a shooting range so no harm done by pointing it down range and pulling the trigger. I see what you're saying, but it should be common sense. And yes I know there are some idiots out there, but it's not my fault they are idiots. I mean hell, I'm being called an idiot on here for not checking the barrel and avoiding the gun blowing up, so maybe you're barking up the wrong tree...
You would THINK it's common sense??? You don't know??? It is common sense so why wouldn't you check it first??? I've never EVER seen in the gun safety rules where if you're at a gun range you don't have to clear your weapon properly to disassemble it. Right again, Yep, there are some idiots out there. So if it's not your fault do we blame your parents???
@@hotrodpc66 Can you stop the semantics on the play on words bullshit? Thanks. Yes, I would THINK it's common sense to make sure a firearm is unloaded before disassembling it. I say *think* because I'm not trying to be a dictator like you, because who am I to say what is common sense for the masses? And I already knew the gun was empty, so I don't need to check it again. Even so, as an added step of safety, I pointed the gun down range and pulled the trigger, which would cause any live round to be fired down range. I don't need to check the chamber if I already know it's empty and even pulled the trigger downrange for added security. So the weapon was cleared, so what the hell is your problem? I'm sure roughly around this point in my response you are thinking of firing back that I should visually inspect the chamber anyway before disassembly, to which I reply, tomato-tamato. So save your breath, because I was already certain the weapon was empty. If you don't like my method of verifying such, too bad schmo.
@@hotrodpc66 " I would think" is a phrase used when you are imagining what is going on in other people's mind, but can't be certain what they are actually thinking. Its like you're just looking for a reason to be hostile and settled on his language because you didn't find anything else. Please, settle down. its unreasonable to expect others to be 100% perfect all the time. Especially when there is more than one way to skin a cat. Sometimes that is hard to remember when talking about guns, where habits are so important with safety.
Not hostile at all. BUT, it's gun safety we're talking about, not operating a can opener where it's just "OK" to accept and make a mistake, and then be arrogant about it and refer to others as idiots when.... But then again, it appears there's one born every minute. NO, it's NOT unreasonable to expect others to clear a weapon properly EVERYTIME 100% of the time. That's exactly how you develop the proper habits and safe handling. Don't discount it as it's "OK" to not do it EVERYTIME.
2000 rounds through mine and no real issues like you've had here.
The issue was the ammo, not the gun, so I believe it. My buddy has several thousand rounds through his as well without even cleaning it and it still runs...
I've never had or seen a "Squib" round in person. I can't imagine what a larger caliber would've done to both you, cameraman and the pistol. I'm going to watch the follow up video next. New Sub👊
Thanks for subscribing and watching the follow up video.
I have not had this problem with CCI Stingers ever. But I'm sure it's possible as I have had this happen with Winchester(no damage). I would guess one of the loading machines got out of time. Will see what final outcome is.
I've had a lot of people comming forward on the 2 videos about having issues with CCI ammo lately. They've gone down the crapper because they were bought out by another company.
I had the same happen to me recently. I was shooting CCI Mini Mags through my Ruger SR 22. I have fired hundreds in 5 years, and this was a first. But, I have also had many misfires lately, 3 years after your incident. I no longer use CCI products.
Neither do I
I had some Fiocchi WMR 22 that about one out of 15 was a squib. I gave a few boxes of it to an NRA trainer to use it for training new shooters about squib loads. He was really excited about it! :) I told him "Remember to bring a rod with you to poke the dud bullets out of the barrel with." I'm old and always alert for a squib load.
I guess this outing made me old then lol, because now I'm always checking.
Who else is wondering, right about now, how much C C I they have laying around?
I still have about 3,000 rounds. But of the Standard velocity and some Subsonics. But they're Australian I think?
I know my girlfriends dad has a lot.. and this scares me..
Probably the new varmint produced lots. Older stored will be fine.
damn ... most of my ammo is cci stingers ... havent had them fail YET ... hopefully I dont have a bad batch ...
@@primusoptimus7486 any CCI in the US is made here in the US. In Lewiston, ID.
Glad you weren't hurt!
Thanks
I suspect that the two loads that popped cases and then the barrel had little to zero powder charge behind them. With the push that manufacturers have made in recent years to keep up with .22LR ammo demands, quality has suffered. Obviously CCI is not immune to this pitfall, even with stellar quality historically. The lesson to be drawn from this should be to ensure a clear bore in any firearm that a misfire is encountered, regardless of caliber, center fire or rim fire. Thank goodness you and yours were not injured and thank you for posting the video as hopefully it can serve as a lesson for shooters in the future. I don’t fault you in any way mind you, as many of us who cycle through 10’s of thousands of rim fire rounds a year tend to get complacent, believing that “awe it’s just a .22”.
My experience with my TX22 was really different than yours. At my first range session, I had malfunctions every 2-3 rounds. My instructor was unfazed, saying it was to be expected with breaking-in a new gun, and just to clean it when I got home. So I cleaned it, but in my second range session still had a lot of malfunctions... until I switched ammo. I had been using Federal Auto-Match bulk; changing to Federal Champion (non-bulk) gave much better results. In a third session I continued mostly with Champion and continued to have better performance. In the fourth session, using Champion exclusively, I had one malfunction in 71 rounds. Next day, no malfunctions in 64 rounds. Next day (today) one malfunction in 64 rounds. I'll continue to shoot daily, hoping it breaks-in the gun enough for a class at the end of a week. Your experience with the CCI Stingers is startling, since everything I've seen about CCI is only raves.
Yeah I used to be one of the ones raving about them. I found out after this video that the company was bought out, which explains the recent drop in quality. Watch my follow up video to this for more details. As far as your malfuntions go, always use copper plated high velocity ammo for best results (36-40gr bullets in the 1200fps range). Also, put a mark on one of the mags and see if the malfunction keep happening with one mag or both. If it only happens with one mag, then there is your problem. Good luck. Also, being a new tx22 owner, you might want to check out the problem videos I have posted about this gun, problems I encountered after this video. Everything is easily accessed in my .22 playlist on the channel.
My main ammo for my 22's is CCI, never had a problem. With any ammo and even firearms, you do once in a while come across a bad single or batch. Tough gun not to have blown apart in your face, new mag and new barrel and you are good to go. Good video, teaches those that dont know that if the sound is lower on a shot, you stop firing and inspect everything. For me if not after the first case blown after the second one blew apart i would have stopped using that box of ammo and reported it to the manufacturer. New shooters should pay attention to this, if anything doesnt seem right, STOP AND INSPECT. If your new and dont have a lot of knowledge of guns then go to a gun smith, thats what they are there for. The choice is, have a malfunction and shrug it of keep firing and possibly hurt yourself or someone else or spend some money and have an expert check it out for you and be safe.