Revisiting the Glock 44 and testing the "junk ammo" narrative with a Taurus TX-22.
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There has been a lot of discussions about the Glock 44 and its reliability on the discussion forums. Previously we had lots of problems with the reliability of the Glock 44. We applied some magazine loading tricks we found on the Glock website and based on what other G44 owners were suggesting worked for them. Then we put the "Remington is junk ammo" and "Federal is junk ammo" theory to the test by comparing the Glock 44 to the Taurus TX22.
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I imagine the boardroom up at Taurus are all high-fiving each other after watching this video well done Taurus well done
Someone at Glock needs to be fired.
@Willie Wonka I've always had good luck from Taurus handguns. But when I've ordered spare mags from them or talked to their customer service, I've received horrible service from very unhelpful, very rude employees. I keep hearing Taurus is under new management and their customer service has improved. But I dealt with them just a year ago. I ordered 2 mags from them for a 22 pocket auto I had. It took multiple phone calls-many taking an hour to be answered, if at all. When someone did pick up the phone, they were extremely rude and extremely unhelpful. After several months of this crap, I told then I could have walked to Brazil and back by now and picked then up, they hung up on me. Finally, after over 10 months of this crap, I finally received my 2-overpriced magazines in the mail. I sold the pistol and have vowed to never get another Taurus. I'm not buying a gun from a company that has rude employes and take 10 months to deliver 2 mags or parts I need. Oh, and before that mess, I had bought a used Taurus 45 auto double action pistol. It had a weak magazine button spring. Taurus wanted to charge me $15 for that $2 spring. They said the spring was $7-postage was $8! I asked about the lifetime guarantee. They informed me I had to send the gun to them, on my $, for them to honor their warranty. I told the guy I wasn't paying that kind of money for postage to mail a gun to them so they could install a simple spring that I could do in 10 minutes or less. And I wasn't paying $15 for a spring that was pribably worth $2 and should be free under their lifetime warranty. They hung up on me that time too. I sold the gun to a buddy, cheap, as is. I remembered after I got that 22 why I sold that 45. I will not do business with a company that is rude, unhelpful and doesn't wasn't to honor their guarantee. Taurus- decent guns-but horrible service when you need customer support.
@Willie Wonka
Thanks for listening to my rant! Lol. I guess I had to let that out. Anyway, yeah, going to a local gunsmith would probably be a good idea if your Taurus needs work done on it. I've honestly had great luck overall with their guns over the years. When I was young and 1st married, my wife and I both had Taurus handguns. Me a 38 snub and a 92-9mm. Her, a 38 snub. I swore by them and highly recommended them to others. But after a couple of interactions with their CS, I really started having different thoughts about the company. I've had a lot of guns over the years. From cheap to not to cheap, and many in between. My current primary carry guns are a Glock 40 and an older model Rossi 38. Back before Taurus owned them. I'm far from a gun snob. I even own 4 Hi Points. And to be honest-Hi Point customer service is probably the best in the business. And Glock has treated me really good on my last couple interactions with them. I've had some friends tell me Berreta can be pretty unhelpful. I do judge a company a lot by their CS. Any gun can have a problem.How the company takes care of That problem and how they treat customers needing spare parts and magazines is very important to me. And I just don't like doing business with the companies that have crappy and unfriendly CS.
Taurus: lets sponsor that channel!!!! Any ammo he wants we will buy it for them!
J H Glock: we will execute you for making a bad gun! Shot him!.... what?! The Glock 44 wont fire!
They have shot 141 types of ammo in an apparent effort to find a brand that works.
😂😂😂
🤣😂🤣
🤣😂😂
Savage, but true.
Is there even that many manufactures?🤣
Glock: hey you gotta load the mags "a certain way" if you want the gun to run reliable
KelTec: HEY! That's our thing!!
@@KingsCrossingTeachings I love my sub 2000, too
Maxim Ghost isn’t that the truth! Love that gun but not what I’d call great for reliability. Also never send it in for a repair going on 5 months and with everything shut down not sure when I’ll get it back. Pmr30 not the crap glock
@Maxim Ghost the pmr 30 has issues you can't get the mag loaded to cap and the rims hang up on one another.
"Load the mags a certain way" did KelTec patent that phrase?.
New headline. Man with Glock got shot while trying to protect himself because he failed to load his magazine the special way.
Glock sure did a heck of a job selling taurus Tx22's!
"CCI Mini-Mags are $8 a box." Yeah, remember the good old days of a few months ago. Those were the days...
I got 100 round boxes of mini mags from Cabela's just a few weeks ago for $8.99
👀
I came back here looking for those prices 😀
They're 8.99 at my local gun store. Even Academy.
$12 where im at
Not generally a Taurus fan, but they beat Glock on this one.
Taurus is good. With Glock you're paying for the name. They give away their guns to militaries and cops and make their money on the public
@vettelover2009 Yeah Ruger was kinda my go-to when thinking about 22lr pistols, but Browning is a good option too. I like my Glocks, but they screwed the pooch on this one. I really like my Sig P365 too, but they made a mess of that release. I guess no company is immune
Glock really shot themselves in the foot with this one. Its like they didnt even do research and development.Should we test this design?"Hell no we are glock, WE ARE PERFECTION, send it out."
@@DinoNucci Ummm no. They don't give away their guns to militaries and police. Who told you that?
@@xenonram you're joking right, har har
Congratulations to Glock. You just boosted sales for the Taurus TX-22. Taurus could not have spent enough money to get all this free marketing as a result of your .22LR Glock 44 legendary offering.
Maybe when they talk about using it as a "training" weapon, they actually mean training on failures and how to clear them? Therefore these failures are by design?
You might be onto something. I'm kinda laughing about how it has a slide release and a magazine follower as part of its design, but use of either one of them could affect the performance of the firearm.
No, that’s not how any of that works.
@@Veritas419 its how jokes work lol
I'm going to assume that was a sarcastic post, at least I hope it was 😜
Thanks for the laugh! 😂
So a taurus is outperforming the "glock perfection propaganda machine" for almost half the cost🤔🤔🤔. Mr. Taurus is partying hard tonight...
My Taurus G2 has retired my 26 & 43
I am a national forest service volunteer , I clean and maintain the two ranges near my house ( clean the range , cut the grass , pick the trash including the shotgun hulls and about 3 5-gallon buckets of brass for me to reload every week ) for a year now , half of all malfunctions I see are Glocks , no Glock owner will admit it , but I spend 5-6 hours a week watching other people shoot the MAJORITY of all malfunctions are Glocks and HIGH END AR-15'S the cheap ar's generally run better , although half the malfunctions I see are steel cased ammo , i have ever seen a steel cased ammo shooter ever acknowledge a single malfunction in their life , despite the "1,000" rounds they have shot every week for three years without a malfunction.
It’s a weird year when a Taurus beats a Glock, but here we are 🤷♂️
I love me some Glock, but they definitely dropped the ball with the G44.
I don't know... my outfit issues Blocks, gen 3, 4, and 5.
Recently A cash strapped friend asked me about Taurus' G2c. I didn't know so I bought one to wring out, prepared to hate it. I shot the snot out of it, and carried and shot it for 8 months.
Now I hate to be in the "Its just as good" crowd, but in this sample of 1....yeah, it's as reliable as my G19, as accurate as my G19...I don't know what more I could want in an entry level gun.
Didn’t last for long glock is back on top for sure
@@mytopicsopinions2840 , "Glock is back on top for sure"
With what, their explody .22 jamamatic, or their warmed over, bad triggered Roth-Browning from 1985?
Perfection? HA!
Time for a good flogging....
@1st Amendment , and maybe YOU should ask for a few details before squandering your cherished 1st Amendment right on cheap, presumptive, keyboard warrior lip?
"Flock" claimed it's .22s worked with dozens of loads. They don't. You don't need to take my word for it, there are plenty of reviews on RUclips, and even the Glock fanboys admit they suck.
Meanwhile I've seen a $10 Jennings .22 auto shooting Remington "Thunderbolts" that worked more reliably than some "Block" 44s using Mini-mags, Federal Auto Match, and Stingers in a vain attempt to make them reliable.
My Buckmark, Walther p-22, Taurus TP-22, Ruger SR22, and Ruger Mk II all run with whatever is on hand.
My kid sister's Sig Mosquito and Ruger Mk I, as well my buddy's Buckmark, Ruger 45/22, 70-year-old Hi Standard and Walther P22, AND my ex-wife's P22....ALL work with whatever we feed them. The only stoppages we have are from primer gaps or filthy guns.
Meanwhile another friend's Keltec PMR-30, a notoriously un-reliable make and model, actually works better that his Glock 44.
I'm very sorry about your complete lack of manners, and complete lack of capacity for critical thinking. Not too many people's momma raised them right these days, and mental disfunction and general ineptitude are no laughing matters. If it's any consolation, Congratulations on your sample of one ammo finicky, over priced, reliable if you pay enough to feed it, Glock 44. They are EXCELLENT pistols...for practicing malfunction remediation drills.
To be honest, I don't care if the "snake oil" style methods described on these forums provide 100% function in the G44 or not. The lack of an out of box threaded barrel option, the limited capacity, and crappy sights along with the finicky nature of the Glock make this gun a no go for me. I mean, seriously, it already takes longer to load mags than to empty them while on the range. I don't want to have to stand on one leg, hold my breath, and raise my left eyebrow exactly 3 millimeters to make the gun work with cheap, readily available ammo. It feels weird to say this, especially since I EDC a G19 or G17 pretty much every day, but gimme the Taurus over the Glock in this case. Thank you for putting out this kind of content and not toeing the industry line, Tim. It means the world to me, and I'm sure to others as well.
Thanks man. Just remember, it's our Patreons that make this type of no BS commentary and testing possible. If we were reliant on the manufacturers we would have to behave more like the gun magazines to protect our ability to survive as a business. Since we're viewer supported, we have extreme latitude when it comes to what we say and how straight forward we can be.
@@Militaryarmschannel Of course. I apologize if my comment came off as demeaning to your process. That was not my intent at all. I myself am a Patreon supporter and I thoroughly enjoy all of your content. My comment was aimed at my distaste for the G44 and the lack of features and reliability. Had it not been for the content you've been making on the gun, I would have assumed it was 100% good to go out of the box, so I really appreciate you testing it and posting honest results. Again, I'm truly sorry if you or any other Patreon took my comment as an affront to the work you do here or your unbiased information.
@Viscous Shear lol youre joking right? the 19 does not have a cycling issue haha
@Viscous Shear I run a ton of ammo through a S&W 15-22. Everything from Aguila Super Extra high velocity, CCI Mini Mags, CCI Stingers, CCI Velocitors, to Winchester SuperX high velocity hollow points all work great. The only thing that's gave me problems is federal syandard velocity hollow points, I think it's just a little on the weak side.
My wife and I own a g19 and g23 respectively, we love them and they are reliable. However we keep the taurus g2c in the nightstand loaded with the safety on. Its just as reliable and accurate as our glocks at 200 bucks, which I would rather have the useless cops take instead of our 500 dollar glocks
This whole your loading the magazines wrong reminds me of when apple said people were holding the phone wrong and it couldnt get signal because of that
Harvesting SE AK HAHA Exactly
@@FishFind3000 The phone wouldn't snap. The Galaxy Fold had screen issues from where the screen folds. It's also important to note that the "influencers" and tech reviewers that were having issues were all Apple shills. Like the dumb ass Markqeste Brownlee PEELING THE EFFING OUTER LAMINATION OFF of the screen. I chalk it up to a combination of new tech, released to early, no warning to not remove that outer lamination, and Apple reviewers consciously, or subconsciously, maliciously or not, wanting to break it.
@@xenonram Marquez isn't an apple shill. He uses a Mac for video editing but his phone is Android. And he explained that it was his mistake that he peeled it. But I don't blame him. That's a design flaw.... Never listen to people on the internet
yes that's exactly the feeling I get with brand's like Apple Tesla & Glock
@@xenonram seeing as samsung fixed the clear design flaw, that wasn't a fluke on reviewers part. it was a part of the display that looked far too much like a cheap screen protector and that was entirely samsungs fault for bad design
Glock: we can't make a reliable 15 round mag so we made an unreliable 10 round.
Taurus: smirks contently
Taurus: Hold my beer..
Different grip angle. Geometry is very real, especially with rimmed cartridges. The angle may just be inappropriate, and that's math.
@@tenchraven no issues with my Ruger sr22. Day after I bought her I put 550 rounds of blaser through her. No issues other than not being able to see the rifling. That was almost ten years ago. Seems like Glock isn't up to date on math.
@@itsmillertime90 I think what Kevin is saying is that Glock essentially makes the same gun for every caliber and the design doesn't work with 22. In order to make something good, they would've had to redesign it.
@@glent5659 I can't even. Have a good one
The G44 is flawless, Tim (as long as you only load the magazines on the 3rd Tuesday of each month between noon and 12:08 while wearing a toga and doing a handstand). 😄
Good one!
This comment section doesn't deserve you.
Don’t forget that your local Priest must bless it, then you have to mix a little holy water with the cleaning oil. It also helps if a Witch Doctor cleans off any curses that might be on the pistol.
Don’t forget the blood of an 18 year old vixen
I’ve been telling colleagues for years, Taurus has been stepping up their game every year.
Moldy Burgers87 I wish Taurus up there game on G3 put some rmr cut on g3. I have a g2. So be getting the Tx 22 next month for wifey so she can enjoy shooting with me.
Ever since the pt111 g2 they've been very good.
But their customer service still really sucks! Just like always.
I love all 8 of my Taurus. I will continue to buy them. I also have the 44... and mine runs bulk ammo no issues.
But their QC sux big ones. My last Taurus was so poorly manufactured that I was sent a new pistol rather than repair the first one.
I honestly think that even if the Glock 44 was 100% reliable, it still pales in comparison with the TX22.
• The Glock 44 has a polymer slide, the TX22 has a machined aluminum slide.
• The Glock 44 holds 10+1 rounds, the TX22 holds 16+1.
• The Glock 44 *does not* come with a treaded barrel, the TX22 does.
The Glock 44 is in the mid-$300 range, the TX22 is in the mid-$200 range.
It really seems like Glock as a company didn't even try with the Glock 44.
@@jessehudson3377 and glock 44 extractors and slides are breaking....lol
Mine has a small hairline crack in the slide behind the extractor I’m not waiting for catastrophic failure mines going back now. Less than 100 rounds cci standard velocity. I bought it Day 1 but it’s still junk. Will be sold once I get it back
do notice best selling 22 guns have 10rds or less because gun law across the globe.
I'll take a Taurus even if I have to get the barrel exchange for free and pocket the other hundred and fifty to $200. Not to mention all the money I'm going to save not having to buy CCI ammo to shoot it. And I already have threads for that suppressor Glock Fanboys have to go spend another $200 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jessehudson3377 well 200,00 g44s, 5 bad guns. not bad. 100,000 TX22s, 20,000 bad barrels. hmmmmmm
How long until we start getting H&K-style excuses like "you're not German (in this case, Austrian) enough."
Or, "you're just not skilled enough to use this superior firearm."
Where have u heard that?
Alex Maurice r/Guns
@@alexmaurice4274 Nowhere. HK's reliability record is as good as anyone's and they aren't immune...just like everyone else. People like to hate on HK because of some shitty positions they have with the civilian market, but they very rarely put out turds. First and foremost, they know how to make a proper magazine which is the heart and soul of any auto-loading firearm.
It's a meme, boomers.
Also I (thank God) have never used reddit.
H&K isn't even that expensive. I've seen the newer glocks go for more than P30s regularly, and you don't see people dropping in upgrades on them out the box like glocks
Glock: load the magazine on a hard surface, don’t pull down to far on the magazine loading tabs, don’t use the slide stop release to load a round, don’t use federal bulk .22. Taurus: load and shoot. Taurus not only beat Glock in the .22 handgun genre, they did it for cheaper.
I would put my G2C 9 against the G19 any day it is more accurate and more reliable
SR22 same way. No thanks Glock.
Bought the G3 last week. Definitely a sweet shooter glad I sold the g19
@@TheAsheybabe89 The G3 does not shoot the same as a Glock 19. If you walk past that and are a "it shoots bullets" kinda person, then it's a damn good gun for the money. G2 to G3 the advancements are magnified despite the chamber flag deletion. I like my G3 but it doesn't have that smooth feel as a Glock 19 when the slide is coming back even taking it apart for KT trigger polishing every part of the gun within reason.
Glocks are like iPhones. Everyone has one, but hasn’t been innovative since it’s 1st gen.
4:14 "Glock has advertised this gun as being legendary, having fired ... 1.2 million rounds ... most tested .22 ever produced."
Most tested = marketing speak for "we had to keep doing a lot of testing, because we couldn't get the thing to work."
Blasphemous... Or should I say "BLAST-phemous"? I have a TX22, I think it would eat marbles. ZERO failures, no pampering or waiting for the planets to align... LOL!
Many thanks for the great videos.
watt hairston thanks for your comment! I just bought a TX22 online yesterday, so appreciate your reassurance!
@@eog5038
I bought a TX22 a couple months ago. I've only ran a couple hundred rounds through but, not one single malfunction yet. My wife has stolen it now, I have to buy another. I think you will be well satisfied.
Point of this video: Just buy that TX-22 twice.
thedefinitive I know right. But still he showed what Glock can do. You will die first before you can fire that pistol. Lol 😂 you have to loaded this way for Able to fire don’t over turn it it will not fire.
"I'll take the Taurus." That feels so weird to say.
Same here. I think glock will come out with mags you cant rimlock load eventually.
I thought the same thing. Then I almost felt sick
I thought so too. Until I bought this one. Go figure.
I have both and they work equally well for me. 1000 rounds in each and zero problems with all kinds of ammo. Guess I’m lucky.
Becoming less weird these days, with the g2, then the g2c, now the g3. Always the revolvers and pt-92’s. I just bought a pt-92 AF-D over a barely used beretta m9 that was the same price. Losing my mind. Lol
Machines don't care what name is etched on them, or what they cost! The Taurus works and that's all that matters. Good review Mac!
A gun designed for over 3 years should not require as many "tricks" to run as my 40 year old Ford pickup. Also, Federal ammo junk? Lol
Federal really does make some junk bulk 22lr ammo. They also make some really good 22lr ammo too though
@@randomergy683 i may be biased, i only shoot their centerfire ammo.
Lucky Gunner Ammo posted on their website the results of their testing many defense rounds. For .22LR, there are three top contenders, one of them being Federal Champion 40 gr, which had about the same penetration as two other top rounds (both of which were hollow tip). That Federal ammo actually outclassed a substantial number of other brands and types -- pretty impressive. So it's what I bought in advance of receiving my TX22 which I bought online yesterday.
That Taurus looks bad ass, wish they'd design a 9mm like that, would be tempted to and probably have to pick it up.
they did design a badass 9mm it's called the G3 for under 300.00
@@maxheadroom7649 TS9... Nice....
Thats what i was thinking
PSA dagger or cz p10c
New GX4
It looks like Glock has made an “affordable” malfunction trainer...GENIUS! #Perfection
timdonahoo I won’t even buy it for a dollar 💵.
Lilac Tortoise A planet where quotation marks around a word in this context can be read as sarcasm.
Lilac Tortoise you didn’t understand what he meant he was being sarcastic lol 😂
Alot of "oh but you have too's" from people who can't accept that this model is substandard and not worth it.
Crewdog 93
True. If I’m going to lay down money on a Glock, I’m doing it for reliability. Period.
If it doesn’t do that, I’m not blindly such a Glock worshipper that I’d start justifying why they are still great.
Companies make mistakes, it happens. Glock needs to work out the bugs before I get the G44.
I’ll still keep buying more Glocks, I have 3.
I'm fine with the concept of finicky guns, _if_ that is made clear up front and you dont rely on a reputation of perfection.
for instance i Loooove cap and ball revolvers and they definitely require a bit of care to load, but most people know that at the gate so there isnt any need for deception.
Glock Engineers: "we've created a tough, reliable, legendary design".
American Consumers: "let me see that.......".
loki8284 our reply “LOL”
@@J1Z06 Yup! LOL!!
If Gaston Glock does not cheap out on building pistols he can't afford those $2M dressage horses for his child bride.
Glock is still the King of the 9mm. YW!!!
@@ottoskorzeny7984 what?
This is the most professional video on RUclips. At least the 1000s of videos I've watched .
The op didn't use a negative word about the Glock. He demonstrated every single thing he spoke about. Leaving the viewer to make his own conclusion.
That folks, is how a professional dies things. Excellent
Thanks.
They should market this gun and ammo combo as “malfunction clearance trainer”. With a lifetime guarantee to fail.
BAaaaahahahahaha!
Lol
So in other words, buy a Taurus TX22! 😁
shojus same conclusion I came to
Taurus: Glock, thank you for releasing the G44! We are getting so much free advertisement!!!!
Mac: So what we are going to do today is check to see if This brand new Handgun is the problem or this ammunition that's been sold for a 100 years non-stop with billions of rounds fired every year by millions of people without issue.....
*cough* glock sucks *cough*
Justin Bellio while I’m hesitant to purchase the 44, .22 ammo is NOT inherently without issues. I have been a firearms instructor since the late 1980’s and teach many classes every year. When people show up with .22s for class I cringe because the ammo itself is inherently unreliable. It’s simply the design of the rim fire cartridge and it’s primer system. It’s also a very dirty cartridge and most people don’t clean them. I have numerous.22 weapons and all of them have issues from time to time, mainly due to the ammo. But if you clean them properly and use good 40 grain ammo such as mini mags you’ll have fewer problems.
Yeah, .22 LR has not been without issue. .22 LR is the most unreliable ammo in production.
I don't think Glocks sucks, they are still everywhere, this one model of Glock sucks.
Never had any of these issues with my S&W M&P 22 Compact and that came with a threaded barrel ... that Taurus is a shooter no doubt!
When I buy a gun, I don't want to have to take extreme care when I load the magazine and I sure don't want to be limited on the ammo I can buy and feed into it.
Ended up being a great commercial for Taurus TX22. I'm so glad I bought a TX22 instead of the Glock44.
These Glock remedies sure sound like homeopathic medicine to me.
Pigeon religion
Rub in circles. Not linearly. Circles. Rub the cream in 14 times a day and take these supplements 7 times a day with food. Rv⅝g Then, it might work. No guarantees. Though...
It sounds like it needs to be thrown in the trash
Its how you talk to the Glock and what kind of hand soap you use when you load the magazines. Never thought I'd see the day when Taurus built a better more reliable higher capacity gun than Glock.
Is the new .22 cal saying now will be "does it take Taurus TX-22 mags?"
We need this on every new Glock video.
ratagris21 let’s hope
When you have to baby a firearm and make sure you’re doing everything so finicky it makes it unenjoyable to shoot...my walther p22 and Taurus tx-22 run fine and don’t need special treatment to shoot..I’ll be staying away from this glock imperfection
This video is why I just bought a Taurus TX22. Great job explaining what is going on.
Check out “battle of the seven most popular 22.lr handguns “ on RUclips
100% chance people will still say you’re being unfair to the G44.
Yep, fanboys gonna fan.
Fanboy powers.......activate!!
Im a glock fan lol so call boy... But i always liked taurus pistols regardless if ppl said there shit BUT I LIKED THEM! i bought the taurus tx22 over the glock 44 bc like this video the tx22 kills the glock 44 every way around u try to look at it. Shot 300 rounds from the tx22 1 problem and that was that 1 bullet so that tx22 is legit 100% reliable..😎👌
I object to his unfair way in which he handled the G44. You are supposed to hug kiss and coat the G44 in high quality CBD oil to get it in a good mood. Once the G44 gets in a good mood, then it’s reliable. Joke
Dom sugar I like Glocks, but Glock set the expectations way too high. They should have been honest in the advertising and say to only use high quality ammo.
If you need to reload gun in ""specific way"" you can "specifically " throw it to a bin....
Unless its some rare/old gun... then its normal. But new.... get rid of it...
"Load and shoot." lol. I've been shooting my Colt Huntsman and Woodsman with "junk" bulk ammo for decades. Other than the occasional rimfire primer click-no-bang, no issues at all. C'mon, Glock! FFS, it's a .22 pistol! How hard can this be? smh.
BTW, it'd be hard to believe that Glock, with all their claims of testing multiple brands of ammunition, didn't test Federal. I mean, seriously? Good grief.
I think there's a big gap between the marketing hype of the G44 and the actual pistol they put into customers hands. Clearly the gun isn't "legendary" if the standard for such status is extremely reliability, ease of use and compatibility with a wide variety of ammo. Like you said, Colt nailed it decades ago, as did Ruger... and others. Taurus nailed it more recently and did so for $100 less while providing 16 round mags and a threaded barrel for that price. There's nothing legendary about the G44 other than it's just another Glock, and more fickle than its centerfire counterparts in my experience.
I‘m nit sure how popular federal is in Europe
Junk ammo has no problem operating a recoil spring from a bic pen.
@@borkwoof696 CCI, Fiocci,RWS and Lapua are very popular in the shooting clubs (one has to be a member) Federal is not unheard of and is gaining popularity with plinkers.
Stargazer is right. Most common in my club (bavaria, germany) is cci blazer. Federal isnt common, but i see the bulk packs around.
The sarcasm when he said “i also took the gloves off because a couple of y’all Said gloves were the problem”😂😂😂 pretty much shitting on the glock 44.. im pissed I am pissed that i impulsed bought this today
Soooo glad I got the TX22… Was planning to get it in October but my local gun shop just had a FDE, the exact same one as Tim’s for $250! Jumped on it immediately cause the green one is $320, G44 was $380. Couldn’t be happier and this video confirmed I made the right choice.
When you have to release specific loading techniques to provide best function.....you know you haven't produced a reliable system. Glock, get it together.
Glock proper loading technique:
Look left then right, all while standing on your right leg only. Then stick your tongue out. After that whistle the Andy Griffith theme.
Now you can fire the gun.
David Wethington lol 😝
Did you ever imagine a scenario in which a Taurus out performs a Glock and is a better value? xD
What a time to be alive.
Taurus Perfection
@Phix Even without the G44, Glock was headed in this direction. Each generation past 3 was just an inconsequential tweak to keep the product line up looking fresh. Smith and Wesson and Sig are hounding them boasting pistols that aim to give the same or better out of the box rather than rely on the aftermarket to do everything.
I doubt people buy that gun for value. They will choose not to buy Taurus because gun law 10 rds limitation or they need trainer for their glock.
They've always been a better value. Almost all handguns are Glocks cost $70 to produce and SHOULD cost $200 ...but they're triple that, and to that fact that they haven't put in any development of the gun since the 80's ....there is nothing "value" about any of that.
Tim, it’s too bad that you felt the necessity of making this follow up video. Your first video was not only fair, it was comprehensive, and has become the G44 video to which the other reviewers must compare.
I would like to think of this an adjunct video regarding the additional “tricks” to make the Glock more reliable. But it still cannot eat cheap, fun Federal bulk pack ammo, even if you stand on your head and chew gum while loading the Glock mags. I’m glad to see that it can work with the Remington bulk ammo (which, in my experience, is not nearly as bad as people say), but you should not have to do all that you did to get it to work.
Thank you for your comprehensive first video, and this second video, although it was not necessary because the first video was very fair. I also feel that the Taurus TX-22 is a much better gun, and a much better choice.
Thanks man. In social media we take an endless beating over our opinions. Some think that we like or enjoy making videos showing problems. I don't. It creates more work for me and it causes a lot of people to tune out because they don't want to hear there's a problem with their favorite gun or product from their favorite manufacturer. You get blasted endlessly and accused of insanely stupid things like staging the problems. I would rather do all sunshine and rainbow videos, but I can't. I have to show my actual experiences as that's our brand and it has been for 12 years. Thanks for the post and for watching.
I wasn't a huge Taurus fan but I decided to check out the tx22, so i paid $250 (plus $20 transfer fee) for mine and I've had nothing but positive feed back from anyone who's shot it and I personally love it
For best results loading your glock 44 mags is to stand on one leg while rubbing your stomach and patting your head .
Seems Glock fixed the issue with their pistols being reliable.
Love it!
Ha ha ha!!!
@Joe Walling Must have some pretty big balls to say something like that.
Don’t worry they will soon roll out an “update” because none of their guns ever have recalls. Glock perfection ya know...
Pretty sure I just creeped out the neighbors with my laugh, ROFL.
6:12 "i also took my gloves off, maybe its causing the problem." Well how about taking off your jacket, headset and oakleys huh? Unconvinced with the test!
LMFAO
I think they were referring to the glove drag on the slide
@@evilke-kneebone8025 I understand the joke but there's actual facts behind glove drag that's why when the dude in the video talked about taking off his gloves it's was to make sure but I'm sure your an operator high speed shooter
@@evilke-kneebone8025 if you had any sense you would choose a different Avatar cause to me you look and sound like a moron
@@evilke-kneebone8025 both of you are giving me cancer.
I own two of the TX22's. Both are equally reliable and a ton of fun. Just got the Kel Tec P17 and so far it's a reliable gun too.
I too have the Glock 44. Granted, I only have 900 rounds through the gun, but it has ran without fail. I am not a torture tester, I shoot a couple hundred rounds, clean it, then it goes back to the safe - like most folks. However, I can not fault a gun that has run perfect on several ammo brands and bullet weights. Like they say, to each their own. Best regards.
If Taurus can beat any more expensive gun in its category, there might be a problem with the other gun. Either way, I'm sticking to my ruger standard.
I feel like if it "works reliably " you shouldn't have to be that particular with it, there shouldn't be a 7 step scientific method to loading. I have never thought about how I load my 19, 43 or xds I just load them and shoot.
I never thought I would see the day a Taurus beats a Glock on reliability. I guess now the new catch phrase will be'"Does It Take Taurus Mags?" LOL.
Stormy Fourwolves44 lol
The G44 reminds me of the Sig Mosquito that I bought and promptly traded back in. I have several perfectly functioning .22 handguns so I know it's possible and don't doubt the TX-22 is good. One that I have that has been absolutely perfect, that I don't hear about often, is the S&W M&P .22 Compact. Mine has suppressor height sights and threaded barrel from the factory and shoots great. Would love to see how it compares to the G44. Sadly, it is also restricted to 10rd magazines, but it works great.
I have been running my tx22 on an old jar of corroded and mixed brand 22lr thats been sitting in my shop for a long time. I can't believe the stuff its been eating up without issue
Mac is definitely the most like reliable and honest and best reviews. Thank u for these videos!
David DeVito I don’t even know why he makes videos.
I'm starting this off by stating that I'm not a Glock fan. I don't think they make bad guns, I just don't care for them.
Okay now that that's out of the way if a gun, especially a .22, takes that much care to load. Is that picky on ammo. Takes different training to use, having to slingshot versus using the slide release ( I'm with MAC, if it wasn't meant to be used as a release then they would NOT have textured the top surface). I totally get the part about making sure that you don't get rim lock in loading the mags. Plus it costs more. All that adds up to a no go for me.
For. 22 handgun fun I currently shoot a Smith and Wesson 22A-1 Victory for the record.
As a Kel tec PMR 30 owner I am laughing on the inside. Glock fan peeps call the PMR 30 a POS it is ammo picky and you have to be careful about loading the magazines. Yet Glock zombies always defend anything with the Glock logo. Why I do not shoot Glocks never have and never will. I do own several Taurus handguns yet mine are junk to Glock zombies
Tim Allen those Victories look sharp, how has that pistol held up? Is it accurate? Reliable?
It didn't run the Federal 36gr no matter how you loaded the mag. If it doesn't run on a commonly available ammo type from a reputable manufacturer, that other pistols have no issue with I'd say that makes "picky".
@@adamarens3520 mine is very accurate as long as I do my part. I don't shoot compilations are anything but mine is very reliable and is holding up well for me. I clean it regularly and keep it well lubed. I bought it used so I don't know how many rounds it has through it.
Adam Arens mine has been fantastic and the weight is perfect
Been looking for a 22 semi auto to teach my girls, I believe I'm getting a Taurus today, thanks Tim!
Get a sr22, it's a compact gun, ideal for that purpose. And it works reliably, not like the glock 44 ;-)
How to not have problems with the G44-
I own a Glock 44 and I run it hard. I have used many different types of ammo and have not had a problem since I discovered this one thing I could do to help it function really well. I have shot 10s of thousands of 22LR and in particular 22LR semi-auto.
Step 1_ load magazine normally.
Step 2 hold down the magazine buttons on the sides till you have slack in the 10 rounds then hold the magazine upside-down. (this helps aligned the 22 ammo properly in the magazine because 22lr gams across the board can be temperamental.)
Step 3 release mag buttons and your mag will have properly aligned bullets that feed great! ( functions approx. 96% of a sample group of a 1000 rounds) Ammo includes
*(of the 4% that are failures) Issues that I do have are essentially all ammo related and within reasonable failure rate for 22lr rimfire ammunition.
Ammo used- Winchester 22lr 38 gr. copper plated HP./ American Eagle 38 gr. copper plated HP/American Eagle 40 gr. solid.
I learned this trick with an old Browning-gold trigger and a sig 22lr mosquito (both far more temperamental than the g44 in my experience)
Great video to demonstrate actual, real differences, thank you
Glock "Perfection" at its finest! haha This is why companies shouldn't use lofty slogans.
I can just sense how many Jimmy‘s are going to be ruffled when this video goes public. The fact that it’s even plausible that you have to go through all these rituals and swing an Olive branch over your head 4 times etc. just to get the Glock 44 to work already shows the gun isn’t what it’s advertised to be. Who would’ve thought we’d live in a world where Taurus can make a better handgun than Glock? If you want a 22 with a slide for affordable muscle memory training, looks like if you stick with the taurus, Sig mosquito, Smith and Wesson m&p 22 or the Walther made 1911s you’ll be good to go. My favorite 22 I own is the Smith and Wesson 22 victory if I’m gonna own a 22 pistol I want one that was designed from the ground up to be a 22 not one that is mimicking something else. Just my opinions I thought I’d share. Of course all of us will have our own.
I'm fully prepared. :D
THEY PUT EVERYONE OF THOSE 1MILLION ROUNDS BY HAND IN THE CHAMBER TO FIRE!
Haha made me laugh. Probably cuz it isn't far from the truth.
Great demonstration and video. Long time fan of 22 LR. My most comparable is the Ruger SR22. Has been extremely reliable with over 2000 rounds of various and mostly bulk ammo. I will now pick up a TX 22 to add to my collection. Thanks for this review.
I won't waste my money on a 22 that has to be loaded "just right or with a "trick"" to many better options 🤗
I'd absolutely take the Taurus over the Glock. I've already got a Ruger SR22 that works great, but you're really making me want the TX22 as well.
The TX 22 is a amazing little pistol and it's very accurate I'm able to hit a 2 inch steel popper at 20 yards very consistently with Winchester white box
I’d go out on a limb and say the G44 is still marginally better than the SR22 I had. What a turd.
I bought a SR22 for my wife and son, runs great as long as the ammo is over 1100fps. That being said the Taurus might end up under the Christmas tree next year.
Get it you won’t regret it... and the extra rounds are a plus
I think it's funny that the gun that brought Glock to its knees is a MF .22lr 😂
"mis stack in the magazine" all I hear is design flaw.
Rondel Mercer yeah every other gun maker can make a 10 round .22 mag that works. I can load my browning buck mark mags upside down blindfolded in the dark and it will shoot all day
@@beardoggin8963 even pheonix figured it out
The advantage arms glock 22lr mags already fixed the rimlock and loading issuse and if you own a 17 or 19 your only cost is $200 for their kit
Scott DPugnificent the aftermarket has always made better Glock parts than Glock lol
@@beardoggin8963 well obviously, the aftermarket actually has to have quality to back up the price tag
Awesome video! I cancelled my Glock 44 order back in Jan. and purchased a Taurus tx 22 in May. You just confirmed my research. I think I made a wise move! Thanks again!
Really appreciate your work as I’m researching purchasing a .22 trainer for my wife and boys.
This reminds me of a Keltec video when they tried to prove that there are no malfunctions. The Glock 44 is a junk. Big hype with even bigger failure.
Shooter: *uses gloves*
Glock: "Finally, a worthy opponent..."
My TX22 runs so good I would never buy the Glock....
LR Lapua they should have let Umarex handle the Glock 44, the airsoft replica is made to a higher quality than the real thing.
@@RekzysTheTitan lol....could be....
I have two 22 cans, a Gemtech and a Rebel and the TX22 runs great with either one, I guess we will see once Mac gets his threaded barrel what the Glock will do...either way it does not look good...
Moral of this comparison is "The expensive gun is not always the best gun" I'm getting the Taurus TX 22.
rgbigdog good choice
I fired several hundred rounds of Federal blue box yesterday from both my Glock 44 and SIG 322.
ZERO failures with the Glock. Not one single malfunction of any kind.
A minimum of one failure per magazine with the SIG, sometimes as many as four. The failure rate in the SIG was dramatically lessened by not fully loading the magazine; 10 to 12 produced few to no failures per magazine.
I obviously now prefer the Glock.
Glock fanbois get really upset when you don't get a woody over every Glock. I have a Ruger Mk1 I bought twenty years ago that will shoot any .22 ammo I run through it. IIFRC, I paid $100 used for it back then. I rarely ever clean it, just spray some brake cleaner through it and a few drops of oil after that.
My Mark 1 has been completely reliable from day 1, the mark 2 government model I owned was crap, looked great but wouldn’t function with anything but mini mag solids. I bought a gen 4 G19 that I had to replace the extractor to get to work and was called a liar when I complained about it’s inability to fire a full mag without a jam. It seems like you can’t criticize Glock for anything or you are immediately criticized.
I was going to post the same. My MKII has the heavy barrel I had cut and threaded and with or without a can it eats just about anything. Take-down was a bit of a bitch before I retrofitted it and now it’s a non issue.
@@j.williams560 I have a MKII that I bought in 1987. It also eats ANY ammo. My only complaint is the 10 rd mag limit and the pain in the buttocks of field stripping. Other than that I feel it is nearly perfect.
Eric H I highly recommend the hammer strut support for the ruger mk pistols. Search them here on RUclips. Best $20 you'll ever spend on them.
Richard Sveum, I have a mk2 target (1989) that will only run 40gr hi velocity. Anything slower or lighter won’t make it through a mag without at least 1 malfunction. But I love that gun because it’s the first gun I ever fired.
Taurus For The Win Over Glock! Never Thought I'd Ever Being Saying That. Great Job Taurus!
mp15a imagine a TX9? It has to happen. I love my TX22.
Reliability wise, this kind of reminds me of the release of the Sig Mosquito.
I have fired over 3k rounds in my Taurus TX22 with 1 failure to feed. It failed to feed the 2nd round after the first shot I fired. It have functioned with cheap bulk and my whole family loves it.
I have shot thousands of cheapo ammo through my glock 44 with maybe 5 miss fires, and it is very accurate.
This Glock seems like a great way to practice you clearing a failed gun so there is some value to it.
I'm buying a TX-22. I'm not a Taurus guy, but, from what I've seen, it's pound-for-pound one of the most reliable .22 pistols I've seen in a long time
I'm kind of a Ruger Fanboy and actually dislike Taurus in general. I definitely prefer the Ruger MK series of 22s, but the larger magazine capacity with the Taurus is tempting. Gotta give credit where credit is due. Taurus has probably made the best 22lr handgun available right now for the price. I still think that the MK4 is the better gun, but the TX22 is dangerously close, especially when considering price.
Oh yeah, I'm really liking the MK4, and like the MK series in general. I have a 22/45 back home, and it's a sweet shooter. I usually avoid Taurus as well lol until recently, I've never considered getting one.
Zero dislikes so far, Glock fans must not be awake yet!
Im up but the truth is the truth. This gun is a lemon...
@@jimhopper2246 I have a lot of friends that are making all kinds of excuses for it, saying that Glock would never put out an unreliable gun. I don't dislike glocks, but all companies put out a lemon every once in a while.
Glock fans probably hate the G44 the most
bryan lavoie I’m a Glock fan and I really wanted a 19-sized .22lr, but unfortunately it looks like this gun is not worth the price
Only Glock would dare to release such a POS, they know fanboys will gladly empty their pockets.
Legend has it...... Glock is still testing different kinds of ammo.......
I’m so glad I went with the Ruger
What a strange world when you'd buy a taurus over a glock
GirthQuake agreed.
Hey, on par for 2020
F A glocks!
Glocks are old news.
Truth be told, I like my Taurus G2C better than Glock G19.. I haven’t had an issue with my G44 so I’m thankful for that but I only use 40 grain ammo. I’m going to try some cheap stuff to see if I have those issues but I’ve said for years a Taurus is just as reliable as a Glock especially in the 9MM category
Glock has to be the only company that can make a crap gun and still have people stand up for them, could you imagine if another company made it
Same way people do harley
@@leemitchell7879 I hate Harley. Why pay $30k for a bike when you can buy a Suzuki,Honda that has the same or more features for less than 10k? Unless they just like how shitty ass sounding loud they make them?
Because Glock made one lemon out of all the models they’ve made since they first started as a company, people should shit on them? On the flip side, Taurus finally made a gun that’s better than a Glock. Whee. Let’s just forget all the crap guns Taurus has made, including the handgun that fires on its own when you shake it.
If you need to do: X+Y+Z to make a gun function "flawlessly", it's not a well designed firearm. I can accept a gun not liking a particular kind of ammo (some rare weight or shape in the case of other calibers, etc.), but "Oh you must load your magazine this way for it to work..." is not an acceptable 'solution'. Same goes for "you can only manipulate the slide like this...", etc. etc. These are excuses and not solutions.
Glock press release: to have a reliable G44, make sure to have your local priest bless the ammo. Then pray for the Glock, then give a sacrificial offering to Mr Glock. Then G44 will then be problem free.
Most important lesson from this video: Son of MAC is a John-Wick-in-training bad ass.
I love my Taurus. It is a blast to shoot and just eats up any ammo I run. I mostly buy cheap bulk 22 and never have a problem with the gun itself. Out of about 700 rounds I have had 3 failure to fires, that I think that is more just because its 22lr and not the gun itself.
I love glocks, and have a few. They make my favorite handguns on the market today. That being said, the 44 is garbage.
Guns and Gadgets did a glock 44 vid yesterday. Scarcely got thru a mag without FTE and/or FTF. The pistol is junk.
I'm not making excuses at all,I'm not. If you noticed Jarod was the only one who had issues in that video. The other guy didnt. Even in a .22, "limp wristing" the pistol will cause the strove pipes he was having. Even on a .22.
But,I still think this pistol has some issues unknown by the company. Personally,I dont see a point in having a .22 other than for my kids to shoot. And in that case it would almost be a benefit having the malfunctions so they can learn to work thru and fix them.
Every manufacturer has issues from time to time. I'm sure it will be figured out over time. It's another valuable lesson as to why you should never by a first gen firearm.
And it could just be one of those pistols that like "this" ammo. Who knows. Hopefully they get it fixed before someone gets killed because if a malfunction in a SD situation.
@@FreedomInc MAC had the same issues. It's a consistent problem.
I have a Taurus TX 22 and even with one in the chamber, 17 rds total, 100% function rate with bulk back ammo under $20.00 per 555 rds. The only issue is a factory issue when the primer is not distributed properly in the rim and will not fire. Most of the times if you turn the round 180 degrees it will fire.
I went to my local gun store yesterday to ask if they had the Taurus TX22. I was told that they normally don't stock it, but instead stock the Glock 44 (though I saw at least one other Taurus gun there, go figure). Seems to me now that they didn't make the best choice! Anyway, I then just went on to find a TX22 online and bought it there -- looking forward to it! Thanks for your careful, thoughtful, clear and factual review work -- much appreciated!
So, you have to load the mag on plan hard surface without pulling the folower too much, charge it, only, by slingshoting it. Under the second sun aligned with Saturn while making the rain dance. Now, that's a reliable gun, isn't it ?