"Go against the solo mode." Nah, I will annoy my opponent as I stare at my hand for a deck Ive never played before and figure out what I can do. Thats my ninja way!
I will say, having Pyro locks on two of the best consistency cards in the deck does hurt quite a bit, just because Pyro is severely lacking in utility Extra Deck cards. If we had other good options than just the Fusions and Banshee this would be so much less of an issue than it was. And you know, obviously Snake-Eyes, also a Pyro deck, has no restrictions anywhere and can do whatever it wants with whatever it has access to. The ideal Turn 1 combo is similar to what you presented, but another direction is to get Extinguishing off the Priestess instead of Rekindling, Extinguishing to get another Ashened so you can fuse into Embers (or instead get Veidos back for follow-up if you already have the other material), get back Obsidim with Embers for next turn too. And now you have the full setup for the big Veidos fusion and follow up for next turn. And you can send the continuous trap for the fusion's ghost ogre eff, turn them into Pyros on their turn for any Super Poly plays Which isnt bad, none of this really is, but another problem is that Awakening is your only true 1 card starter and there's no way to search it
kritter is probably the type of summon that you see and get annoey that you couldn't just summon the epic dragon to just realize that for no reason this tiny cow has unreasonably high stats
This deck being mid is thematic. Playing against the lovecraftian monstrosity that is snake eyes with Ashened is like playing Dark Souls in a challenge run without any equipment.
I think the key, is to get the field spell on the opponent's field so it activates the pyro switch on their turn when going first. The issue is that requires a card that isn't searchable, or another card that isn't searchable like set rotation and hope the opponent activates the field spell. And considering only one protects the field spell from being activated over (not being used for cost for other cards and whatnot), the deck works well as long as the opponent doesn't just use the cards to their advantage. This deck would be ok pre-link, but its hard to justify leaving your entire interaction being viable up to your opponent not doing the most optimal thing with Veidos for them and just letting it sit there until you want to activate it. At best, its decent anti Snake-Eyes, assuming you get the trap and your opponent lets you fusion away the ash and poplar before they use it to get a flamberge by using the Veidos and Ash.
I run ashened kaiju with Metaltronus, jizikiru get cydra nova for infinity, gama gets nash knight for c nash, for c 107 neo, for full armor, and veidos gets codebreaker virus berserker for an easy accesscode. Im sure its not optimal but there is still enough extra deck space for garura, mudragon, and 2 embers and 2 fusion veidos. It can also just be a solid negate for dark decks or whatever you happen to have a target for, cuz any dark deck becomes dark pyro, which means you can metaltronus for veidos or embers, but the value is in the permanent, sometimes unrespondable negate.
That first Fusion has the protection effect I wish Lady Labrynth of the Silver Castle had, where it's blanket immune to destruction but only immune to opponent's targeted effects. Lady is immune to only your opponent's destruction effects, so your own Torrential Tribute blows her up.
An interesting quirk about Veidos I noticed is that the destruction effect is *not* mandatory, so even if your opponent tries to use Veidos as material or something you still have full control over the field nuke effect. The elephants in the room regarding this would be the "Dark Pyro" lock and the fact that you still have control over the nuke in your GY so effects that trigger on "Opponents Card" activations won't work, yet I love the whole concept of giving your opponent highly explosive ordinance that they'd have to dance around
Tenpai player here. I would LOVE having that veidos on my field. Tenpai does do links quite well, there are no synchro locks, and if i have my field spell, my monsters would be unaffected by his boardwipe effect, so it would nuke the opponent only. I have wonderful dreams about opponents giving me this card. So yeah. Hope that helps.
You can cheat the Gaia Prominence with fusion armament btw joe. Also if you play a one of, of agnimal candle, you'd also be able to make the syncro legit too. Also, 2 Volcanic emperor and 1 or 2 of Volcanic Emission is nice too (could just a 1 of since you can search Emperor with Banshee). Can also make Garunix with Embers of the Ashened and King, which would be pretty easy to get into if needed.
But you play it a bit different. You start with awaikaning and then veidos and pop fieldspell. And then you summon king then priest and then you search rekindling, idk the name i switch they often😅, activate it mill veidos add veidos and then ban the catd to fusion into embers and then add field to hand and then activate fieldspell. Then you have your comeback next turn. I mean you can add quick spell in your opponents turn.
Technicaly Awakening of Veidos can be searched, with Left Arm offering that is lmao. It really sucks how the dark souls archetype ended up being so meh, the artwork is so good as well, i'll still probably build it when it comes to MD, but that will depend on whatelse it's released with.
Definitely the worst matchup is summoning Veidos on a Generaider player. "Why thank you for that free level nine that I can use to start my combos with." Doesn't even go to the graveyard since you can use it as xyz material
Take this with a grain of salt. But i believe that zombie world will take priority on its owners turn, and this field spell will do the same. But if you banish the Banshee after this field spell is active on its owners turn then zombie wotld will take priority. Zombie main of 6 years btw.
Gonna be real. There is no logic or mechanical reason they can't be both Zombie and Pyro. It is not like any rule states monsters can only have one type. [If there is, that is a dumb restriction]
I was thinking up of cards that can help the deck not sure if these will change anything I mainly did this for fun don't take it too seriously The Flame of the Ashened link-1 2000 atk 1 ashened monster When this card is link summoned activate obsidim the ashened city from your deck If this card is used as fusion material add a ashened spell/trap from your deck to hand if your opponent controls a monster with 2800 or more atk add a ashened monster from your deck to hand You can only activate each effect one per turn Follower of Veidos lv4 pyro Can special summon this card by banishing a ashened card from your field, gy or hand can only special summon this way once per turn When normal or special summoned add a 'veidos' card from your deck to hand If this card is destroyed add a banished ashened card to your hand you can only activate this once per turn Martyr of veidos lvl 8 dark pyro Can special summon this card once per turn if an ashened monster was sent sent to the graveyard Once per turn send an 'ashened' or 'veidos' card from your deck to your gy add Veidos the eruption dragon of extinction to your hand If this card is destroyed special summon or add a ashened card form your hand to graveyard The spread of veidos's destruction Continuous Spell When a level 9 or higher "veidos" monster activates its effect activate one of these effects once per turn 1) Banish a card from your opponents gy 2) Banish a random card from the top three cards of the oppenents deck face down The Influence of Veidos Quick-play spell If two or more ashened cards are in your gy or banished make 1 face up monster your opponent controls a dark pyro until the end of this turn you can only activate this effect once per turn
Ahhh got it. In any case, it's really swell that the one with the most clicks is the one with your face on it (if the one with the most clicks is kept as the thumbnail that is) @@HardlegGaming though "why am I so mid" did got me to write a reply while I was half awake getting ready for work. Both really good
There's actually two with my face on them. One is me just staring at the Ashened City in disbelief, the other is me and the Ashened King with some funny text. Which was the one you liked?
Id say its pretty mid so far. The artwork is cool, but a bit too busy in some of the cards, while being too simple in others. Like the fieldspell and the hero. The mechanic is unique, but restricting to pyro, and not fire extradeck kinda kills the archtype. Maybe this is a signal of pyro extra deck in the future? While superpoly and fusing with your opp mon is powerful, this lock will keep you walking on eggshells to not lock yourself by accident i feel. Overall its not good, but i like it. -Maybe with more support, copium- -ashen one, seek supports, more powerful supports-
Yubel Ashened is a weird variant that can be made. You just have to treat it as two separate engines as opposed to one cohesive deck. You just do the Yubel bit first and go from there. Samsara and Awakening of Veidos is the entire combo.
Love the chat at 10:27
"is this gonna be on youtube?"
"nope"
The deck just wouldn't feel right without 3 copies of Ashened Blossom & Joyous Spring
Made me giggle ngl.
@@ParadoxMania13 a tiny bit of shitting too
This deck could even become playable is you include Snake Eyes Ashened and friends.
"Go against the solo mode." Nah, I will annoy my opponent as I stare at my hand for a deck Ive never played before and figure out what I can do. Thats my ninja way!
I will say, having Pyro locks on two of the best consistency cards in the deck does hurt quite a bit, just because Pyro is severely lacking in utility Extra Deck cards. If we had other good options than just the Fusions and Banshee this would be so much less of an issue than it was.
And you know, obviously Snake-Eyes, also a Pyro deck, has no restrictions anywhere and can do whatever it wants with whatever it has access to.
The ideal Turn 1 combo is similar to what you presented, but another direction is to get Extinguishing off the Priestess instead of Rekindling, Extinguishing to get another Ashened so you can fuse into Embers (or instead get Veidos back for follow-up if you already have the other material), get back Obsidim with Embers for next turn too. And now you have the full setup for the big Veidos fusion and follow up for next turn. And you can send the continuous trap for the fusion's ghost ogre eff, turn them into Pyros on their turn for any Super Poly plays
Which isnt bad, none of this really is, but another problem is that Awakening is your only true 1 card starter and there's no way to search it
Stop giving Konami ideas
kritter is probably the type of summon that you see and get annoey that you couldn't just summon the epic dragon to just realize that for no reason this tiny cow has unreasonably high stats
He's an ox :)
There's a conspiracy theory that after SPYRAL Konami hard forbids the TCG from making their exclusive archetypes any kind of good
Spyral became good when the OCG made Double Helix. The good TCG archetype that made.Konami scared was Danger!
@@Ragnarok540 do kaijus count to ?
Mimighoul seems to be an exception, it’s pretty decent.
@@strangevol5264 that's the first wave of support the second one is always the tricky one
Kozmo was the last Tcg archetype that was meta immediately i hope they'll receive some support one day since they still hold up today
This deck being mid is thematic. Playing against the lovecraftian monstrosity that is snake eyes with Ashened is like playing Dark Souls in a challenge run without any equipment.
Joe talking about TCG archetypes giving your opponent monsters, and along came Mimighoul...
Konami TCG keeping archetype gimmicks alive
I am quite happy with this. Ashened is a deck I'm building slowly
Good luck!
@@HardlegGaming thank you! My wallet hates me XD
I’d love to build it too, but Veidos is just so goddamn expensiv.
@@freakyzoid3565 I knoooooow
I think the key, is to get the field spell on the opponent's field so it activates the pyro switch on their turn when going first. The issue is that requires a card that isn't searchable, or another card that isn't searchable like set rotation and hope the opponent activates the field spell. And considering only one protects the field spell from being activated over (not being used for cost for other cards and whatnot), the deck works well as long as the opponent doesn't just use the cards to their advantage. This deck would be ok pre-link, but its hard to justify leaving your entire interaction being viable up to your opponent not doing the most optimal thing with Veidos for them and just letting it sit there until you want to activate it. At best, its decent anti Snake-Eyes, assuming you get the trap and your opponent lets you fusion away the ash and poplar before they use it to get a flamberge by using the Veidos and Ash.
I run ashened kaiju with Metaltronus, jizikiru get cydra nova for infinity, gama gets nash knight for c nash, for c 107 neo, for full armor, and veidos gets codebreaker virus berserker for an easy accesscode.
Im sure its not optimal but there is still enough extra deck space for garura, mudragon, and 2 embers and 2 fusion veidos.
It can also just be a solid negate for dark decks or whatever you happen to have a target for, cuz any dark deck becomes dark pyro, which means you can metaltronus for veidos or embers, but the value is in the permanent, sometimes unrespondable negate.
That first Fusion has the protection effect I wish Lady Labrynth of the Silver Castle had, where it's blanket immune to destruction but only immune to opponent's targeted effects. Lady is immune to only your opponent's destruction effects, so your own Torrential Tribute blows her up.
An interesting quirk about Veidos I noticed is that the destruction effect is *not* mandatory, so even if your opponent tries to use Veidos as material or something you still have full control over the field nuke effect. The elephants in the room regarding this would be the "Dark Pyro" lock and the fact that you still have control over the nuke in your GY so effects that trigger on "Opponents Card" activations won't work, yet I love the whole concept of giving your opponent highly explosive ordinance that they'd have to dance around
Tenpai player here. I would LOVE having that veidos on my field. Tenpai does do links quite well, there are no synchro locks, and if i have my field spell, my monsters would be unaffected by his boardwipe effect, so it would nuke the opponent only.
I have wonderful dreams about opponents giving me this card.
So yeah. Hope that helps.
These work really well with Volcanics
Thank you, Pjamin04!
"I guess you can use bonfire" yeah...
I do suspect this is a theme compatible with bonfire
Why did they make the dark souls archetype mid 😢
Don't worry, the OCG will give it a poplar and an omni-negate fusion monster. It will be playable, but it'll be boring
Calling it mid is giving it too much credit
despite all it's hype Dark souls is kinda mid imo
@@LilyApus cool 👍
(Skill issue)
@@Monkeylighthouse dark souls players get a different joke challenge : impossible 👍
why change thumbnail it was so good
I've got 3 thumbnails running at once. RUclips tries out different versions on different people, and sees which one works best.
@@HardlegGaming thats cool
Out of curiosity, which one did you like the most?
@HardlegGaming it was the one that said "why are we so mid"
@@HardlegGaming I thought the juxtaposition of the angry looking spartan guy on the cover with the why are we so mid was funny
You can cheat the Gaia Prominence with fusion armament btw joe. Also if you play a one of, of agnimal candle, you'd also be able to make the syncro legit too. Also, 2 Volcanic emperor and 1 or 2 of Volcanic Emission is nice too (could just a 1 of since you can search Emperor with Banshee). Can also make Garunix with Embers of the Ashened and King, which would be pretty easy to get into if needed.
25:13 bone-fire the next spell- searches any lv4 zombie with greater than 100 def and all lv3 or lower zombies with less than 1000 atk
But you play it a bit different. You start with awaikaning and then veidos and pop fieldspell. And then you summon king then priest and then you search rekindling, idk the name i switch they often😅, activate it mill veidos add veidos and then ban the catd to fusion into embers and then add field to hand and then activate fieldspell. Then you have your comeback next turn. I mean you can add quick spell in your opponents turn.
Technicaly Awakening of Veidos can be searched, with Left Arm offering that is lmao.
It really sucks how the dark souls archetype ended up being so meh, the artwork is so good as well, i'll still probably build it when it comes to MD, but that will depend on whatelse it's released with.
Can't wait for the Mimighoul video
This is the From Software archetype, right? Really has the feel of Dark Souls/Elden Ring.
Is very DS3 specific, I would love to see an archetype based on Bloodborne (but good).
I hope they get a card in the future named Ashened to Ashes
Probably should have been the name of Endlessness tbh
Definitely the worst matchup is summoning Veidos on a Generaider player. "Why thank you for that free level nine that I can use to start my combos with." Doesn't even go to the graveyard since you can use it as xyz material
Take this with a grain of salt. But i believe that zombie world will take priority on its owners turn, and this field spell will do the same. But if you banish the Banshee after this field spell is active on its owners turn then zombie wotld will take priority. Zombie main of 6 years btw.
Gonna be real. There is no logic or mechanical reason they can't be both Zombie and Pyro. It is not like any rule states monsters can only have one type. [If there is, that is a dumb restriction]
Oh a Dark Soul deck sweet.
I play a Kaiju variant.
I was thinking up of cards that can help the deck not sure if these will change anything I mainly did this for fun don't take it too seriously
The Flame of the Ashened
link-1
2000 atk
1 ashened monster
When this card is link summoned activate obsidim the ashened city from your deck
If this card is used as fusion material add a ashened spell/trap from your deck to hand if your opponent controls a monster with 2800 or more atk add a ashened monster from your deck to hand
You can only activate each effect one per turn
Follower of Veidos lv4 pyro
Can special summon this card by banishing a ashened card from your field, gy or hand can only special summon this way once per turn
When normal or special summoned add a 'veidos' card from your deck to hand
If this card is destroyed add a banished ashened card to your hand you can only activate this once per turn
Martyr of veidos lvl 8 dark pyro
Can special summon this card once per turn if an ashened monster was sent sent to the graveyard
Once per turn send an 'ashened' or 'veidos' card from your deck to your gy add Veidos the eruption dragon of extinction to your hand
If this card is destroyed special summon or add a ashened card form your hand to graveyard
The spread of veidos's destruction
Continuous Spell
When a level 9 or higher "veidos" monster activates its effect activate one of these effects once per turn
1) Banish a card from your opponents gy
2) Banish a random card from the top three cards of the oppenents deck face down
The Influence of Veidos
Quick-play spell
If two or more ashened cards are in your gy or banished make 1 face up monster your opponent controls a dark pyro until the end of this turn you can only activate this effect once per turn
If anything, these cards look very cool. So they have that going for them.
today we learned... hardleg is stronger then thanos
Thanks pjamin!
Ashened for eternity + kaijus will be BUSTED
I just woke up so I'll be watching this later but did the thumbnail change? I enjoyed the prev thumbnail that I can see in my notifications lol.
RUclips has this thing now where you can submit 3 different thumbnails, and it will rotate them out to see which one gets the most clicks.
Ahhh got it. In any case, it's really swell that the one with the most clicks is the one with your face on it (if the one with the most clicks is kept as the thumbnail that is) @@HardlegGaming though "why am I so mid" did got me to write a reply while I was half awake getting ready for work. Both really good
There's actually two with my face on them. One is me just staring at the Ashened City in disbelief, the other is me and the Ashened King with some funny text.
Which was the one you liked?
@@HardlegGaming I didn't see the one with your face and the text but from the 2 I've seen, the "why am I so mid" made me laugh.
The new cosmo queen is good for this deck
when does the deck come to md?
No idea yet.
Id say its pretty mid so far.
The artwork is cool, but a bit too busy in some of the cards, while being too simple in others. Like the fieldspell and the hero.
The mechanic is unique, but restricting to pyro, and not fire extradeck kinda kills the archtype. Maybe this is a signal of pyro extra deck in the future? While superpoly and fusing with your opp mon is powerful, this lock will keep you walking on eggshells to not lock yourself by accident i feel.
Overall its not good, but i like it.
-Maybe with more support, copium-
-ashen one, seek supports, more powerful supports-
Yubel Ashened is a weird variant that can be made. You just have to treat it as two separate engines as opposed to one cohesive deck. You just do the Yubel bit first and go from there. Samsara and Awakening of Veidos is the entire combo.
What site/app do you use to test these deck?
YGO Omega
@@HardlegGaming thank you
TGC decks always fall just short of being fun/good. This reminds me of the sorry state of Kaiju and Kozmo in current day.
cool looking but yeah aside from the 1 gimmick not special
This should be criminal that tcg make such a beautiful archetype that doodoo
I was wondering if the second wave of ashened support was worth reading and this confirmed it wasnt! 😭