@@neonsmoviereviews7969 Not in the fact that his Joker followed the same premise as the comics which was unrealistic as he fell into a vat of chemicals. With Heath and Joaquin, they were normal people who just put on the makeup to become the Joker. Cesar Romero's Joker didn't really have a backstory however he said that it followed the same premise of the comics where the chemicals came in line.
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@jack bran and it also makes sense of why Gotham's society just exploded into crime, and it gives a much better reason as to why the one guy kills Martha and brakes her necklace
It’s not bad because they are several jokers like in Batman the Three Jokers and in Batman Arkham Knight where there’s several Jokers and the Joker can be anyone, but yeah I do get with Arthur tho because of the attachment and feel for his character
Although there is a moment, if you watch his eyes carefully, where he looks truly sad, like deep down on some level he still never wanted this to happen, but the attention and cheering crowd steers him towards finally embracing it.
I also saw the pain in his face and even his smile seems to me that he did it for people. He doesn't have anything now just this crowd. Be afraid of the one who has nothing to lose.
The scene is pure genius. They way Todd Phillips shows the Joker and Batman literally being born the same night. It's brought home when Joaquin is pulled from the car window, like a baby being pulled forth into the world. Great writing and directing, kudos.
I like to imagine in this scene that Bruce's joy was in that moment permanently sucked out of him and it immediately entered into the Joker's twisted psyche.
@Tyler Durden Writing with Caps Lock doesn't make you look tougher, nor does it make any more sense whatsoever. Somebody might get what you're saying , but that's so childish and ughhhhh cringe attack!!!! 😢🃏🃏🃏 Again, just don't take stuff too literally
@@complte6440 Keep in mind the very last scene where Arthur's in a mental hospital; in an interview, the director claims that this laugh is the only real, genuine laugh the Joker gives out during the entire movie. I think most of us know that the Joker creates numerous past experiences in his head to imagine and sees them as jokes (In the dark knight, Joker had a new story every time he wanted to let someone know how he got his scars), and DC themselves have never confirmed a true origin story for the joker. Basically: We don't know how Joker really became Joker because Arthur's stories that he's lived in his head all seem like realities that he's gone through, so if the real Joker doesn't know how he became himself, how could anyone (including the audience)? So the director confirming that his only real laugh (I interpret it as 'real' meaning the only laugh that really occurred, NOT the only laugh that was 'genuinely funny' to Arthur) suggests that this entire movie may have just been another past life experience the Joker's tragic mind has created in his head. This is my theory and tbh the only hole I can find with it is that we see the Waynes' deaths, which Joker did not witness indicating that these events may have actually happened; However I think Joker witnessed everything we've seen (the audience + in a third-person manner) because he wants to create a perfect reality in his head. This may seem far-fetched and tbh this is the first time I've ever theorized about something so hopefully, maybe someone else has a better interpretation to this 'hole'. But I'd love for you all to let me know what you guys think! (Sorry again I'm not rly good at making these haha)
i find it hilarious that the rich, the politicians, and the media were concerned that this movie would inspire violence, yet all it inspired were a couple memes
The rich the politicians and the media weren’t worried about violence they were worried because this movie points about everything bad about the rich the media and the politicians
Well the next scene in the asylum is good where he kills the lady and it flashes in fine text THE END. Is pretty definitively the end of the story and shows a total completion of his arc. There is nothing after that and never will be.
has anyone noticed that the scene where the Wayne's are shot is followed immediately by Joker reviving on the car? Batman is born, moments later, Joker rises
Wow man, that's about as deep as the ass pounding you crave from the corner of a f'n dirty bath stall. Jesus Christ jew, your only problem is deciding which show to watch and how you are going to hold it in until the end. This is f'n garbage from criminals in Hollywood.
At the beginning of the film "Stay Down You Freak" . At the end of the film "Get Up!!!!! You need to GET Up!!!!!!" . . . . . EDIT Thank You All For 5k Likes 😍😍😍
Bruce Wayne died in an alleyway surrounded by his parents' corpses, alone. Batman is the one that walked out of Crime Alley. Arthur Fleck died in a car crash. The Joker is what woke and stood up on top of that police car, surrounded by a cheering mob.
For me, this was the saddest scene. Arthur, or the small part of him that's left, realises that even now, no one cares about him; they just care about what they think he represents. He feels that the only way for people to even notice he exists is to become this monster. It's so sad that his life was so terrible that becoming the Joker was a better alternative than being Arthur Fleck.
Even sadder was that he was never even Arthur Fleck. His mother adopted him, and w/ Thomas Wayne dead there's no way to know if he's actually Wayne's son. To him he was no one.
Nobody noticed him or cared for him his entire life, or cared about his suffering, for all the shit in his life, this was the saddest moment of the movie, when he stands on the car, and sees all these people cheering for him, noticing him...
I find it slightly ironic that all his life he was trying to be that person that makes people laugh and society spat on him. Then as soon as he starts to cause chaos and murder and has gone full psychopath, he is noticed. It’s almost as if Arthur had to step away from his fantasy that people in the world are good enough to appreciate someone like him and step into the literal real world where everyone is insanely cruel including him. He just happens to be at the top.
@Superpiair1 1. People love antivillains, especially when they stand for the lower class, 2. history has shown many, many, many mass murderers with crowds cheering for them. From Jeffrey Dahmer and Richard Ramirez who had women send them money in jail and propose to them nonstop, to General Buttnaked (yeah, that's his actual name) he gained an entire following in Liberia while known for his decapacitating and psyciatric nonsense (like how he got his name thinking that if he went into battle naked, he couldn't be hurt by bullets). Not to mention more people like Al-Baghdadi, Jim Jones, Charles Manson, etc.
Many people here don’t seem to understand why Thomas Wayne would go out during protests against him. But it is already answered in the movie. By Arthur himself, *"You think men like Thomas Wayne ever think what it’s like to be someone like me, to be somebody but themselves, they don’t. They think that we’ll just sit there and sit like good little boys. That we won’t werewolf and go wild."* Thomas thought so little of the poor and middle-class people that he didn’t even consider them to be a threat. He didn’t consider the protest to be a big deal. Hence, he goes to the theatre and because of which he missed out on Arthur killing Murray which ended up causing riots. The riots that led to his demise.
I don't think we have enough information to make that claim. The story was told by Arthur's warped mind. It's impossible to know what's true. At the very least, I certainly don't think Arthur knows enough about Thomas Wayne to make a call like that.
Arif Faisal yes unfortunately, he died before The Dark Knight came out from an accidental drug intoxication. People think it was a suicide but it wasn’t.
@@Vision-lz4ruLmao, not canon? People like you are missing the entire point of the sequel. The sequel explored the shadow of Joker that Arthur could no longer handle, which we also found out in the end that he wasn’t the “true” Joker that would become the great Rival to Batman, but rather the inspiration (in the ending). The sequel revolving around the idea of the shadow of Joker growing too large for Fleck to handle shows that it swallowed him whole as we saw in the end of the first movie and in the animated start of the sequel. The sequel is not as bad as people make it out to be. Within the context of the themes and symbolisms, it was a solid follow up. 6-7/10.
@@cbgg1585 I think the problem is not the movie but the musical part, as advanced education, it is not for everyone. I have not watched it yet, but having enjoyed The Miserables movie, I hope I can enjoy as well Joker 2.
@cbgg1585 yaa it fits ... but it's no fun >_< seeing arthor go thru his transformation to joker.. would of loved seeing him just embrace it . Start his criminal empire and have batman go up against old man joker lol . Then have joker kidnap Robin and brainwash him lolol . Have Robin become new young joker and have Oldman joker die in some cool trade off ... sorry for my fanfict ramblings 😅 . I guess I just really liked arthors confidence and embrace to chaos near the end of the first film. Mr. Phoenix would have probably played that role so well
At the last moment when he paint his mouth with his blood, smiling but he’s also crying, might looks like tear of joy, but I think it’s his last inner good disappearing and he knows he going down this path with no return, and he’s sad for the last time
Not really good and evil in this case, but more like... two broken people who had different problems in life that still led them down dark paths, one born with a mental illness who lost all support and abandoned reality, and one who was traumatized at a young age and used his anger and grief to take down the bad people instead of getting support. They both needed help, but instead they used their respective "gifts" (Joker's ability to dismiss reality and essentially trick the masses into thinking he was in the right by doing nothing at all (it does count as tricking, because you can indeed fool someone just by not saying anything), and Batman's money and youth to train and study to become the ultimate one-man-army crime fighter) to grant their desires; Joker to become the star he wanted to be, and Batman to become justice itself.
@@MadnessBomber I think joker suffered so much more than Batman, batman had a good life with their parents at least in his youth and was born in a rich family. Otherside exist a mentally handicapped person that doesn't had a father, had problems with money and society.
@@jeffthewolf4589 Yes, you are correct. However, I will say this. One side can suffer more or less, but it doesn't change the fact that both sides suffered. Both sides still have pain they need to work through.
I can agree that it’s either not canon or is one of Joker’s retellings on certain events that happened in his life following this scene. Like at the end of this movie. Though in the 2nd movie, a lot more stuff would just be made up expect maybe just the big stuff (ignoring the ending).
2:52 camera shot almost looks like the crowd of a comedy club n he’s finally made it n everyone is cheering for him. What he always wanted. As he realizes the blood from his mouth that dream quickly fades and he’s forced to face reality. But rather the blood remind him of his pain… he uses it to make a smile. “Nothing can hurt me anymore.” This is his final dive into madness. Throughout the film he struggles to keep it together… but In this moment he finally embraces it… leaving behind his sanity. Brilliantly shot and a masterful performance.
Thats the beauty of Joaquin Phoenix, hes up there on that car surrounded by people cheering him, and he recognizes that arthur wouldve always wanted a loving crowd, so he starts performing, and they love it, and it validates him that violence is good, so he draws the smile of blood and truly becomes The Joker.
“The most dangerous man, is the one who’s got nothing to lose.”- James Baldwin “It’s only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything.”- Chuck Palahniuk
I remember watching this. I went to the theater alone for this one. Found myself uncontrollably smiling when joker stood up on the car and drew the smile on his face. Powerful
This is both the perfect ending and the perfect beginning. After this, you know now that there's no more Arthur Fleck. Now and forever, he is only The Joker. What an amazing scene.
@@citruscolt7617 this new joker movie is a classic forsure let's see if they do more joker movies and he can add to his case as the best joker let's see
@@beastkiller479 Dude, who the fuck cares if he's better? This dude is praising this scene but he never said it was the best joker or mention Heath, your reply was 100% unrelated and unnecessary.
After giving us this scene, you can't say in the second movie "this guy wasn't the real Joker". This is making fools of the audience. I will continue my life as if the second movie didn't happen. The Joker movie ended for me with this scene.
I love how despite the thugs are so crazy, they lifted joker and placed him on the car so gently and slowly. It really shows their undying love for their king, the one person that united them all.
@@lukewhatidid1735 It's in his name, though: "Arthur" (a regal name, i.e., King Arthur) and "Fleck" (a reference to dirt or dust). He's literally the "anti-king"...the king of the disenfranchised.
It’s kinda sad. He’s dancing, and the people are cheering, but it wasn’t what he wanted. He wanted to spread joy, and he was ignored and laughed at. They only started laughing with him instead of at him when he started burning things down. He’s crying cause even though they’re cheering, the world isn’t getting any brighter, and all he can do is dance.
spreading joy is what Arthur wanted, but when he realized that people are terrible and that the world is unfair, what he wants most is to destroy everything and revolt against everyone. So he becomes the Joker. Relentless, merciless and destructive
@@GlitchedRebellion He didn’t plan it. Maybe he didn’t want it, but it shows that he’s enjoying it in the movie. I think he enjoyed it just as much, if not more than what he previously wanted. That’s just my opinion though. Ima go sleep now night night
He's crying and happy because he's being accepted for who he really is. Deep down this isn't who he wants to be but who he has to become for the admiration. It's a well done film.
I always loved just how the thugs removed Joker’s body from the police car so carefully as they’ve accepted him to be their new savior. As if they were about to crown him as their new king of crime or in Joker’s case, their new clown prince of crime.
lol prince of crime lmao you missed the point of the whole movie. these people were just like Arthur, everyday working people tired of the system. revolution. a change.
@@playerhateroftheyear1084 he literally said clown prince, also, shut up, it’s always you people who make these dumb comments, he was just REFERENCING, something
I disagree. The Dark Knight Joker was more like testing the city. Showing it's true colors. Some people showed that they are actually bad, some shown that they are good.
@hasan veysel erol Not everyone is ready to kill so many people AND get in prison for that. So it's fine ending, at least in my oppinion. But if Joker had blown them up, next time people wouldn't hesitate.
That’s because this movie puts you in his mind. You see and feel all the pain that motivates him so that when he finally snaps, you’re right there with him.
If you’ve ever wondered how Joker got so many people to work for him. Just watch this scene. He is an emblem, a hero, a saviour, for all the people who feel downtrodden in life.
@@norm-bb3bb Tbh the movie was still really bad and should of never happened, a proper second movie should of been how Arthur was as joker, like taking over the city with his goons or something
Thinking face partly. But mostly he was uncaring to the plight of the working class, and poor of Gotham. Instead of being emphatic to them, and offering to help, he calls them clowns who didn’t do anything with their lives. He was nothing more but an elitist douche, who spat on the people beneath him, and cared nothing to improve the city.
If only Thomas Wayne showed enough compassion to the people of Gotham for haughty eyes, (Which Wayne shows by looking down on the poor people of Gotham) and a lying tongue (Since He Lied how he wanted to help the poor people in Gotham so he can become mayor) these are despicable to God.
This scene Brought tears to my eyes, the delicacy whem they were pulling him out the car. I always wondered how Joker accumulated so many Goons to a point where they were so expendable.
@@saulramirez6117 This version of Joker has a bit more of a code, albeit a vague one. He's only killed people that have done wrong by him, not just for laughs. I wouldn't expect this interpretation to kill his own men, especially after they gave him the support he's spent his whole life yearning for.
@@saulramirez6117 I think the joker that also kills his goons is a joker that made after this joker, the original/Arthur was still in the insane asylum
In this "Joker" universe, every time Bruce Wayne sees or even thinks about Joker, he can vividly remember his mother's blood splashing across his face as her pearls are torn from her neck. Suddenly, dressing up like a bat and fighting crime as a vigilante doesn't seem so crazy.
@@engineeringreality7878 Batman doesn't fight for the government. He fights so that no other eight year old boy would ever have to feel the pain he felt.
At the beginning: "Stay down you freak!" At the end: "Come on! Get up!" At the beginning: *forces a smile, still unhappy* At the end: *draws a blood smile, finally happy* I love it.
Beginning:laughing painfully to the social worker due to condition. End:genuinely find bruce tragic situation funny and laughing like joker to the lady.
I love how when the Waynes are killed, there's a shot of blood splattering on the kids face to mirror the blood that goes on the Jokers face. It's showing the events that birthed batman and the Joker which is pretty cool
I think it goes further. Am I crazy or when he uses the blood to make the smile does it not make the fricking bat symbol, but in blood? Seriously pause at 3.25 and look at it. I'm sat here trying to work out first if I'm imagining it and second if that shit was actually super intentional symbolism or not? Like Joker's smile is the antithesis of what Batman will be? Most movie's I'd def say coincidence but this one...
All The People 3:16 Public Cheering who Can't Stand Murray Couldn't Stand MurrayLittleFingaRingMobsta , As I Couldn't Either , I'm Their HERO They CHEER Applaude At THAT ; eh? ... Pops
2:40 This scene is actually beautiful. Seeing the newly made Joker dancing and being happy while on top of a police car in front of a crowd of supporters is actually pretty beautiful
@2:06 Amazing scene, but I can’t help but laugh every time I see the wicker chair in the background. Like who brings a wicker chair to a freaking riot?! 😂
The same guy who is Batman's biggest enemy The same guy who tortured Jason Todd The same guy who crippled Batgirl The same guy who manipulated and abused Harley Quinn Think about how chilling that is
This doesn’t just feel like an origin story for the Joker but an origin for crime in Gotham as a whole and it just shows how fucked up the DC world can be.
This is such a stupid comment, it's like me saying this is a batman origin Because it lead up to the events of Batman The same way you can say that the events created by Arthur lead to crime in Gotham.
You know there are cities across the world and even in the US that are worse... People literally dying in the streets and bodies not being moved for days.
@@desipop3654 Joaquin learns that Joker has a psychological disorder due to being treated like a trash, loss everything he cares about during the process.
The moment when he stands up and everyone cheered for him, it was the moment where the Joker was born and it’s the only time that everyone was actually really happy to see the villain rise.
It’s this kind of circlejerking that’s emblematic of a society that can produce somebody like the Joker. Outright rejection without consideration, a nonpartisan issue that has destroyed the thought process, regardless of what side of the political spectrum you’re on. Both sides of the spectrum are guilty of this. Wholesale hand waving and dismissal of people without any consideration for their point of view is precisely what started Fleck’s downward spiral, the only difference being the focal point (mental illness or opposing political stance).
I love how the rioters take care of him and respect him because to them, he’s their hero. Not to mention the music score goes so well with this scene; almost like the beginning of freedom and triumph.
This movie isn't an Anarchist manifesto, Arthur didn't build solidarity with his fellow workers and teach communist praxis, this is just shallow individual edgelord lashing out with no plan m.ruclips.net/video/5lBsMFRGSOU/видео.html
He mistakenly did. It was never his intention to start a riot or a political movement, and what he got in the end is the right audience who applauded him.
Honestly, the movie made me sympathize for the fucking Joker. They actually made me feel bad for the goddamn Joker. That’s how you can tell they did good. This movie is a masterpiece.
"He raises hands above his head, does a little dance move and the CROWD GOES CRAZY-- CLOSE ON JOKER, tears in his eyes from all the pain and suffering, still he keeps smiling as he wipes his bloody hand from one cheek across his mouth to his other cheek, smearing a wide blood-soaked smile across his face so they can all see how fucking happy he is-- *He is the Joker.* " (lines from a script of "Joker")
How about another joke Ellen Degenerate? What do you get when you give 0.0001% of your wealth to charity and are labelled a philanthropist despite not paying your staff and giving Melania Trump a golden pram? I'll tell you what you get. You get what you f'ing deserve!
Jack Green such is the way of the rich. Giving so little of their wealth to the poor just so the media will brand them as charitable and heroic. These people don’t care about you, me, or anyone else. They enjoy the fame and attention, and the riches that come with it. They enjoy relaxing in their mansions and driving their expensive vehicles while not caring at all for those of us who struggle with even just purchasing groceries. The fact that this society puts a lot of praise into celebrities (or more so, the fact that celebrities even exist) is quite honestly disgusting. But nothing can be done about it, because in the end, people have a compulsive need for a God or an idol, and often find respite praising awful, fake people.
Joaquin Phoenix deserves more than just one Oscar for the role he played. It's simply spectacular...the laugh, the physical extreme makeover, the dances, the moves...everything was simply great. His general performance is worthy of a standing ovation👏👏👏👏👏👏
So sad that many idiots specially on Twitter think he didn't deserve the Oscar, just because they hate the movie, is heartbreaking to read so many ignorant comments.
@@norm-bb3bb it's just because they are superficial, and they judge without trying to go beyond what they see on the big screen and appreciate the work and the efforts put on each element of the film. All in all, the film was entirely great from all points of view, and the performance of Joaquin Phoenix was the touch of class nedeed to make it a masterpiece 🤩
@@jordanmitchell4600They say it's a violent and disturbing movie, that transmits only bad emotions and could be potentially dangerous if watched by the wrong people. Anyway, I definitely agree with you, Joker is a masterpiece and will permanently stand among the best movies in the history of Hollywood.
some comic book fans argue that existence of batman gave rise to joker and other villains of gotham city. But this film proved that society is capable of doing that even without existence of batman.
yeah, that belief always frustrates me. whether you're a superhero or not, some people's lives will be wrought with adversity that tries desperately to break them. many people do break. they give up. they become the 'villains' because there's no reason to fight _for_ something. its so much easier to be the center of the universe. other people, less frequently, are hardened by the adversity and realize just how important it is _to_ fight. they become the heroes. they go the extra mile to ensure that what happened to them, doesnt happen to others. its not true in the case of every super hero, but more often than not, the heroes and villains are created by the same forces. and of all the superheroes that have ever existed, that has never been more true of anyone than it is of batman. believing that "bad comes about to challenge the good" is ignorant and defeatist. bad will _always_ exist, because it will always be the easiest option. so you'd better hope and pray for goodness, because it doesnt have any such guarantee.
@@kyrridas1573 That's probably the biggest general difference between those who become superheroes and those who become supervillains; society and the world crushes those stuck within it. Some, like Arthur Fleck, either lose the good thing/person they had or never had such blessings and thus give in to add to the world's cruelty for themselves (Venom, Captain Cold, Doctor Doom, Lex Luthor), while others such as Bruce Wayne refuse to leave the world as it is and decide to do something to fix it despite how insurmountable that may seem (Spider-Man, the Flash, Mr. Fantastic, Superman). The Batman and the Joker are really just the epitome of the subtle yet massive difference this can really cause.
The scene at 3:13 when he forces his smile is PURE ART. I got chills every single time I watch it. Joaquin Phoenix really nailed this role! What a great movie
mike mccormick ehh . Disagree . Honestly it’s not comparable . Some say Phoenix is now the best and others say ledger is . The movies are honestly too different to compare .
everything about the final scene when joker stood on the car was perfect. the precise camera angles and movements, the blood smudged by arthur to reflect his “happy” smile, the soundtrack that accompanies it. it’s perfect.
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The greatest thing about this film is that it didn't feel like it was about a comic book character but a real person, which is far more terrifying.
I like realistic versions of the joker where he’s just a dude who wears makeup and dyes/sprays his hair like cesar, heath, and Joaquin
@@Kiiieeechiii are you saying Nicholson wasn’t realistic?
@@neonsmoviereviews7969 Not in the fact that his Joker followed the same premise as the comics which was unrealistic as he fell into a vat of chemicals. With Heath and Joaquin, they were normal people who just put on the makeup to become the Joker. Cesar Romero's Joker didn't really have a backstory however he said that it followed the same premise of the comics where the chemicals came in line.
@@alfredocea7965 I was being sarcastic
@@neonsmoviereviews7969 Oh sorry. Hard to tell when it's text. My bad.
The Last Wayne's Generation and Arthur Fleck died on the same night.
The Batman and The Joker were born on the same night.
Underrated.
Edit: Well, not really anymore.
Brothers after all...
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@@some_metalhead What?
This movie shocked me to my core. The moment he drew the smile on his face with blood, I totally accepted him as the Joker.
definitely. THat's the point when The Joker is truly born.
@@MidnightIsolde Exactly my point. Arthur Fleck is gone. He is now The Joker.
@@MidnightIsolde and the Batman
If you watch this scene carefully
They both born
The Joker is born in chaos.
Name_ he became the joker on the murray show
It's good to know that this movie doesn't have a sequel.
He is the real joker!!!!! Todd Philips is such a dumbass
Real💀
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That's what the director wanted but the studios greed they forced his hands
I wish I could say that
*_The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth._*
I like that
@Fletchers Flesh nah first guy got it right it's like 12yo emo talk
*that just hit in the feels*
@@Sean-gio2 Put a _ before and after your text - without spaces.
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You can use * to make it bold.
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You can use - to put a line through it.
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@@Sean-gio2 asterisks (*) before and after a word like *this*
Love how this movie depicts Joker's supporters dramatically becoming his goons/henchmen. Never really saw that on the big screen on any villains.
Considering that rioters in REAL LIFE are wearing Clown Masks after this movie it is no surprise
But he is not the villain in this movie.
Manuel Coll Because the story is told by the joker
@@christiandauz3742 first it was guy fox now its joker and still no one really knows what either was about.
@jack bran and it also makes sense of why Gotham's society just exploded into crime, and it gives a much better reason as to why the one guy kills Martha and brakes her necklace
Beginning of the film: Arthur tries to smile. Tears of sadness.
End of the film: Joker smiles. Tears of joy.
“I used to think my life was a tragedy, but now I realize it’s a comedy.” -Joker
mama luigi ur mom is a stretch
Beginning of the film: Arthur tries to smile. Tears of sadness.
End of the film: Joker smiles. Tears of sadness.*
fix it for you
@@JorgeSeguraArt STFU
Go on....
God, rewatching this after the sequel’s ending is just night and day. This one was seriously something special that DIDN’T NEED a sequel.
Arthur fleck is the real joker!!!!! Todd Philips is such a dumbass
id like to think that JOKER 2 just didnt need to end. it neded to continue something not end it
It’s not bad because they are several jokers like in Batman the Three Jokers and in Batman Arkham Knight where there’s several Jokers and the Joker can be anyone, but yeah I do get with Arthur tho because of the attachment and feel for his character
@@joaquincorrales6274 , no there is only joker , screw parallel universe
@@Cousinbiddy1 there can be more than one because we don’t truly know who the joker is in any world
The moment Bruce's parents are shot, Joker breathes again and comes back to life. Subtle, and poetic at the same time.
drosh413 david you wouldn’t get it.
@@youwanagethi shhh David must be having a bad day
It was a part of Joker's lie. A joke that only he'd get. Hands down the best understanding of the Joker character ever put to screen.
Luis Pessini Pinilla Great ! You Right !
WOW man SO tRUE!!!!! Itz so poetiC!111
For the first time in his life, he existed, “no one is laughing now”. He puts on, for the first time, a real happy face.
Although there is a moment, if you watch his eyes carefully, where he looks truly sad, like deep down on some level he still never wanted this to happen, but the attention and cheering crowd steers him towards finally embracing it.
I also saw the pain in his face and even his smile seems to me that he did it for people. He doesn't have anything now just this crowd. Be afraid of the one who has nothing to lose.
@@Manu-bobo "A man with nothing to lose, is the scariest of them all" ~Spiderman Noir
Best Joker ever.
Much better than that overdosed schmuck
@@desipop3654 your wrong
Joaquin Phoenix earned that Oscar, jesus christ, the dude's acted his heart out on this film
Faxs straight faxs
It feels like he literally became Arthur/joker.
@@tylerdavis6873 its hard to see something like heath ledgers joker but i think joaquin might be his successor
Facts!!!!!!
TRUE
There is no Easter bunny, There is no Tooth Fairy and there is no Joker: Folie à Deux
😂😂😂
There’s no Queen of England
Lol
What about Obamna? Trump said there was one
@@BeeHatGuy what
The scene is pure genius. They way Todd Phillips shows the Joker and Batman literally being born the same night. It's brought home when Joaquin is pulled from the car window, like a baby being pulled forth into the world. Great writing and directing, kudos.
Exactly !
@@ashokkumarganesan3927 ?
@@ashokkumarganesan3927 How many you smoke?
I like to imagine in this scene that Bruce's joy was in that moment permanently sucked out of him and it immediately entered into the Joker's twisted psyche.
@@ashokkumarganesan3927 What are you smoked? I want that
“The most dangerous person is the one that has nothing to lose”
@Tyler Durden Tyler, that doesn't make sense and is cringy, don't take this movie too literall
@@artifice1374 yes, but it has meaning and Tyler abused the definition of the movie
@Tyler Durden lmao who the fuck are you and since when do you carry The Truth (tm)
@Tyler Durden that last part was especially cringy
@Tyler Durden Writing with Caps Lock doesn't make you look tougher, nor does it make any more sense whatsoever. Somebody might get what you're saying , but that's so childish and ughhhhh cringe attack!!!! 😢🃏🃏🃏 Again, just don't take stuff too literally
Turns out this movie was actually a documentary.
@Caleb Burns He's unoriginal.
Ascaithe Hmmm too hard to tell which comment is stolen.. 🤔
UnrealEntGaming, well how bout it!
Can't believe people are making "comment theft" a thing now
I don't wanna even get started how stupid it sounds"
bro how many comments did you put. You real desperate for likes huh?
This scene is peak and Joker 2 doesn't exist.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
There is no Joker 2 in Ba Sing Se.
Totally agree ! Never watched the second as its usually garbage and sorry but Gaga does not need more promoting ....
@@katrinalilac7877"didn't even watch it but i know it's bad"
This wasn’t just a rescue: it was the people crowning their king
MarioThrasherTroops this is the main part, u never know whether this is real or not
the clown prince of crime
@@complte6440 Keep in mind the very last scene where Arthur's in a mental hospital; in an interview, the director claims that this laugh is the only real, genuine laugh the Joker gives out during the entire movie. I think most of us know that the Joker creates numerous past experiences in his head to imagine and sees them as jokes (In the dark knight, Joker had a new story every time he wanted to let someone know how he got his scars), and DC themselves have never confirmed a true origin story for the joker. Basically:
We don't know how Joker really became Joker because Arthur's stories that he's lived in his head all seem like realities that he's gone through, so if the real Joker doesn't know how he became himself, how could anyone (including the audience)?
So the director confirming that his only real laugh (I interpret it as 'real' meaning the only laugh that really occurred, NOT the only laugh that was 'genuinely funny' to Arthur) suggests that this entire movie may have just been another past life experience the Joker's tragic mind has created in his head.
This is my theory and tbh the only hole I can find with it is that we see the Waynes' deaths, which Joker did not witness indicating that these events may have actually happened; However I think Joker witnessed everything we've seen (the audience + in a third-person manner) because he wants to create a perfect reality in his head. This may seem far-fetched and tbh this is the first time I've ever theorized about something so hopefully, maybe someone else has a better interpretation to this 'hole'. But I'd love for you all to let me know what you guys think! (Sorry again I'm not rly good at making these haha)
By adoring him, you show you missed the point of his character
@@thepurpleshade486 You beat me to it
i find it hilarious that the rich, the politicians, and the media were concerned that this movie would inspire violence, yet all it inspired were a couple memes
The rich the politicians and the media weren’t worried about violence they were worried because this movie points about everything bad about the rich the media and the politicians
We a don't want our fears to be shown in front of billions
All they ended up doing was promote the movie lmao
Nothing will inspire violence and riots among the middle class... they are too tame
They were concerned because it's the truth.
He has finally found his audience
fuck that gave me chills. So fucking true
Indeed
JOKER YOU*
how about another joke, muarry?
基德 no i think we’ve had enough of your jokes
04:00 in my mind, this was the final shot and the end of the movie, and the sequel doesn’t exist
Well the next scene in the asylum is good where he kills the lady and it flashes in fine text THE END. Is pretty definitively the end of the story and shows a total completion of his arc. There is nothing after that and never will be.
@@unevenstreets1182 Joker never had a sequel
What sequel?
Amen
@@unevenstreets1182I wish that last scene never happened, the film ends with the shot of him standing on the car imo, and there is no sequel
They finally gave the Waynes a good reason to run into a dark alley😅
Never go alone in a alley
@@miguelgcgamer9878 maybe it was the heat of the riot that made them think it was safe there
Drdisrespect didn't claim that dark alleyway yet
@@doggoking4074 It's out of my hands
It was because Thomas Wayne’s limousine was on fire. You can even see him do a double take to make sure.
has anyone noticed that the scene where the Wayne's are shot is followed immediately by Joker reviving on the car? Batman is born, moments later, Joker rises
Im kinda sad that play didn't have bats in it
Siegward Of Catarina not a Batman movie kid just focuses on jokers origin story I’m not tryna be a dick.
Wow man, that's about as deep as the ass pounding you crave from the corner of a f'n dirty bath stall. Jesus Christ jew, your only problem is deciding which show to watch and how you are going to hold it in until the end. This is f'n garbage from criminals in Hollywood.
@@pauldailey4477 are you triggered by the violence ?
Paul Dailey wtf is this nigga talking about?
At the beginning of the film
"Stay Down You Freak"
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At the end of the film
"Get Up!!!!! You need to GET Up!!!!!!"
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Thank You All For 5k Likes 😍😍😍
Is that what thet say? What minute?
@@callofdutychile when the kids beat him up in the alley after taking his sign.
SpectterYT around 2:00 and 2:05
the guys in the subway say it to him 'stay down'. and the clown rioters say 'get up'. it was absolutely intentional.
@@KakkoiiSasuke my bad you got it right.
As he made that bloody smile, it sent chills down my spine.
This was Minneapolis in May 2020, except 10 x worse!!
Joker 2019 is better than The Dark Knight trilogy and MCU (maybe except Punisher/ Daredevil)
The slow build and even the slow smile is none other than a masterpiece
Bruce Wayne died in an alleyway surrounded by his parents' corpses, alone. Batman is the one that walked out of Crime Alley.
Arthur Fleck died in a car crash. The Joker is what woke and stood up on top of that police car, surrounded by a cheering mob.
And he was happy and crying at once. Unbelievable from Joaquin in that moment
"Your parents death wasn't your fault, it was your father's"
-Ra's Al Ghul
🦉
Totally make sense
anger does not change the fact your father failed to act
One of the most finest comment ..ludvig bonde👍
Oh yea!🔥
For me, this was the saddest scene. Arthur, or the small part of him that's left, realises that even now, no one cares about him; they just care about what they think he represents. He feels that the only way for people to even notice he exists is to become this monster. It's so sad that his life was so terrible that becoming the Joker was a better alternative than being Arthur Fleck.
Even sadder was that he was never even Arthur Fleck. His mother adopted him, and w/ Thomas Wayne dead there's no way to know if he's actually Wayne's son. To him he was no one.
I literally feel like this. I was adopted. I’m mentally ill. I get treated like shit. This is the greatest fucking movie ever made.
@@battaglino77 pretty much the jokers origin story anyway.
@@aaroncox5194 dude if you need to talk sometime, you can ask me if it is possible in youtube, if you need help then I'm not the guy, but I can talk
@@aaroncox5194 im adopted too. being adopted shows that your current parents chose you.
Nobody noticed him or cared for him his entire life, or cared about his suffering, for all the shit in his life, this was the saddest moment of the movie, when he stands on the car, and sees all these people cheering for him, noticing him...
It made me think of the comedy club.
Let it reign.
I find it slightly ironic that all his life he was trying to be that person that makes people laugh and society spat on him. Then as soon as he starts to cause chaos and murder and has gone full psychopath, he is noticed. It’s almost as if Arthur had to step away from his fantasy that people in the world are good enough to appreciate someone like him and step into the literal real world where everyone is insanely cruel including him. He just happens to be at the top.
@Superpiair1 1. People love antivillains, especially when they stand for the lower class, 2. history has shown many, many, many mass murderers with crowds cheering for them. From Jeffrey Dahmer and Richard Ramirez who had women send them money in jail and propose to them nonstop, to General Buttnaked (yeah, that's his actual name) he gained an entire following in Liberia while known for his decapacitating and psyciatric nonsense (like how he got his name thinking that if he went into battle naked, he couldn't be hurt by bullets).
Not to mention more people like Al-Baghdadi, Jim Jones, Charles Manson, etc.
He knows he’s won. He can’t lost with these numbers
I’l simply just pretend that the sequal doesnt exist
what sequel
@@DuongNguyen-zh7rmthat sequel was Gaga lol.😂😂
Agreed
that’s right
There was a sequel??
It didn't take a year for this movie to be relevant again
As Murray says "There are riots out there." And indeed they are everywhere now
@@cloudzol4623 yeah too many riots
within destruction is creation and we will be able to create something new
@@randontwan3957 Isn't it beautiful?
2020 is the Gift that keeps on giving
Many people here don’t seem to understand why Thomas Wayne would go out during protests against him. But it is already answered in the movie. By Arthur himself, *"You think men like Thomas Wayne ever think what it’s like to be someone like me, to be somebody but themselves, they don’t. They think that we’ll just sit there and sit like good little boys. That we won’t werewolf and go wild."*
Thomas thought so little of the poor and middle-class people that he didn’t even consider them to be a threat. He didn’t consider the protest to be a big deal. Hence, he goes to the theatre and because of which he missed out on Arthur killing Murray which ended up causing riots. The riots that led to his demise.
Well put.
Fuck Arthur.
@@oliverb.8995 fuck you
@@WolfenmarK sure man
I don't think we have enough information to make that claim. The story was told by Arthur's warped mind. It's impossible to know what's true. At the very least, I certainly don't think Arthur knows enough about Thomas Wayne to make a call like that.
"Madness is like gravity, all it takes is a little push."
- Heath Ledger (R.I.P.)
Nicodemas Prime you know, this joker kinda looks like ledger’s role.
Heath Ledger is my least favorite Joker.
Lebowskifan-2002: Cult Classic he’s the best
Wait did heath ledger died?
Arif Faisal yes unfortunately, he died before The Dark Knight came out from an accidental drug intoxication. People think it was a suicide but it wasn’t.
Don't let Joker 2 ruin this movie, especially this great ending. If you guys love this movie so much don't waste your time watching the sequel.
Agreed, the sequel was not canon to this great movie
Arthur fleck is the real joker!!!!! Todd Philips is such a dumbass
@@Vision-lz4ruLmao, not canon?
People like you are missing the entire point of the sequel. The sequel explored the shadow of Joker that Arthur could no longer handle, which we also found out in the end that he wasn’t the “true” Joker that would become the great Rival to Batman, but rather the inspiration (in the ending).
The sequel revolving around the idea of the shadow of Joker growing too large for Fleck to handle shows that it swallowed him whole as we saw in the end of the first movie and in the animated start of the sequel.
The sequel is not as bad as people make it out to be. Within the context of the themes and symbolisms, it was a solid follow up. 6-7/10.
@@cbgg1585 I think the problem is not the movie but the musical part, as advanced education, it is not for everyone. I have not watched it yet, but having enjoyed The Miserables movie, I hope I can enjoy as well Joker 2.
@cbgg1585 yaa it fits ... but it's no fun >_< seeing arthor go thru his transformation to joker.. would of loved seeing him just embrace it . Start his criminal empire and have batman go up against old man joker lol . Then have joker kidnap Robin and brainwash him lolol . Have Robin become new young joker and have Oldman joker die in some cool trade off ... sorry for my fanfict ramblings 😅 . I guess I just really liked arthors confidence and embrace to chaos near the end of the first film. Mr. Phoenix would have probably played that role so well
At the last moment when he paint his mouth with his blood, smiling but he’s also crying, might looks like tear of joy, but I think it’s his last inner good disappearing and he knows he going down this path with no return, and he’s sad for the last time
At last he Found His Audience
Bingo!
Spot on g
Nah,he talked to the police officer in the car and remarked on how beautiful the riot is.
It's called Broad Affect in schizophrenia. When they experience a broad range of emotions at once.
Thomas Wayne’s life created Joker.
His death created Batman.
I am Batman
Excellent🔥🔥
I wonder what whould happen if he somehow got the help he needed.
Stick Bug Hundreds.
True, people are so jealous nowadays, ez to create a Joker
I love how they tied Joker’s origin and Batman’s origin all together. It makes for a destined battle in the future between two different ideologies.
Not really good and evil in this case, but more like... two broken people who had different problems in life that still led them down dark paths, one born with a mental illness who lost all support and abandoned reality, and one who was traumatized at a young age and used his anger and grief to take down the bad people instead of getting support. They both needed help, but instead they used their respective "gifts" (Joker's ability to dismiss reality and essentially trick the masses into thinking he was in the right by doing nothing at all (it does count as tricking, because you can indeed fool someone just by not saying anything), and Batman's money and youth to train and study to become the ultimate one-man-army crime fighter) to grant their desires; Joker to become the star he wanted to be, and Batman to become justice itself.
There's no good or bad. No black and white, only gray. They are just human beings who had a different perspectives and vengeance in their lives.
Just like the 1989 Batman film.
@@MadnessBomber I think joker suffered so much more than Batman, batman had a good life with their parents at least in his youth and was born in a rich family. Otherside exist a mentally handicapped person that doesn't had a father, had problems with money and society.
@@jeffthewolf4589 Yes, you are correct. However, I will say this. One side can suffer more or less, but it doesn't change the fact that both sides suffered. Both sides still have pain they need to work through.
let's just all agree that
Joker: Folie à Deux is not canon
Same my headcanon is folie a deux is just harleys daydream or some shit
The fact it has French in it immediately makes it non canon
Let's just all agree that; Joke Folie a Deux doesn't exist.
@@marninx word
I can agree that it’s either not canon or is one of Joker’s retellings on certain events that happened in his life following this scene. Like at the end of this movie. Though in the 2nd movie, a lot more stuff would just be made up expect maybe just the big stuff (ignoring the ending).
2:52 camera shot almost looks like the crowd of a comedy club n he’s finally made it n everyone is cheering for him. What he always wanted. As he realizes the blood from his mouth that dream quickly fades and he’s forced to face reality. But rather the blood remind him of his pain… he uses it to make a smile. “Nothing can hurt me anymore.” This is his final dive into madness. Throughout the film he struggles to keep it together… but In this moment he finally embraces it… leaving behind his sanity. Brilliantly shot and a masterful performance.
Thats the beauty of Joaquin Phoenix, hes up there on that car surrounded by people cheering him, and he recognizes that arthur wouldve always wanted a loving crowd, so he starts performing, and they love it, and it validates him that violence is good, so he draws the smile of blood and truly becomes The Joker.
This scene made me shed a whole tear. It was truly a bittersweet moment. The old him was finally able to rest, but at what cost.
Wow you're gay
@@betterthanyesterday3912 So?
@@betterthanyesterday3912 I was gonna say the same thing. Not that theres anything wrong with that.
The part where he make the smile with his blood is just a masterpiece
Ok
Sorry Ledger but Joaquin phoenix is much better Joker IMHO
It’s Like hes saying “ it’s now complete “
@@lickenhuntsman5338 they're both amazing I can't even compare them
Chills bro
“The most dangerous man, is the one who’s got nothing to lose.”- James Baldwin
“It’s only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything.”- Chuck Palahniuk
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Gawa Games just listing quotes to what I think it represents but if you wanna go there
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r/foundthemobileuser
Second one’s in fight club right
You cant quote something and then not say the source or where its from.
You have a lot things to lose, your life, for example
I remember watching this. I went to the theater alone for this one. Found myself uncontrollably smiling when joker stood up on the car and drew the smile on his face. Powerful
have you seen the new sequel? if so what do you think of it?
The music is what really tied this whole scene together.
For me Joaquin, he really made the character.
I really hope Nolan take notes here about what is character driven films.
The Murray Franklin Show scene, seconds before Joker shoots him.. Sounds like footsteps- Intense, foreboding and ominous.
@PUNMPKIN I heard about her on NPR.
White room is just perfect in this
She also did all the music in h.b.o.s chernobyl
A child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel it's warmth.
Comma not necessary
sounds like something from naruto
@@LORDBR69 Guldan World Of Warcraft
You joker boys really jumped all over that quote didn’t you?
Stealing this
This is both the perfect ending and the perfect beginning. After this, you know now that there's no more Arthur Fleck. Now and forever, he is only The Joker. What an amazing scene.
Heath ledger was better sorry bud
@@beastkiller479 ok
Adrian Gonzalez no Joaquin’s joker is better bud.
@@citruscolt7617 this new joker movie is a classic forsure let's see if they do more joker movies and he can add to his case as the best joker let's see
@@beastkiller479 Dude, who the fuck cares if he's better? This dude is praising this scene but he never said it was the best joker or mention Heath, your reply was 100% unrelated and unnecessary.
After giving us this scene, you can't say in the second movie "this guy wasn't the real Joker". This is making fools of the audience. I will continue my life as if the second movie didn't happen. The Joker movie ended for me with this scene.
Same
Me too
All you did was make it clear you didn't pay attention from the start
Everyone can be the Joker. You just have to accept him, but Arthur wanted to be himself, to be happy.
@@Bat-Kaledel no quería eso ve el video donde le dice a Gaga q es basura
This film is aging perfectly like fine wine.
Whereas Batman going to China didn't age very well in TDK
I prefer milk
End My Sufferings what the fuck are you talking about
@@EndMySufferingsPlz Calm down buster. Have some cookies and milk.
Cold milk is where it's at.
I love how despite the thugs are so crazy, they lifted joker and placed him on the car so gently and slowly. It really shows their undying love for their king, the one person that united them all.
Clown Prince Of Crime
You could say their king was the hope and I guess symbol of a greater change
He’s there jester. they never wanted a king
@@lukewhatidid1735 It's in his name, though: "Arthur" (a regal name, i.e., King Arthur) and "Fleck" (a reference to dirt or dust). He's literally the "anti-king"...the king of the disenfranchised.
the moment 'clown prince of crime' really was true
It’s kinda sad. He’s dancing, and the people are cheering, but it wasn’t what he wanted. He wanted to spread joy, and he was ignored and laughed at. They only started laughing with him instead of at him when he started burning things down. He’s crying cause even though they’re cheering, the world isn’t getting any brighter, and all he can do is dance.
spreading joy is what Arthur wanted, but when he realized that people are terrible and that the world is unfair, what he wants most is to destroy everything and revolt against everyone. So he becomes the Joker. Relentless, merciless and destructive
You know the saying right? "A child that is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."
@@GlitchedRebellion He didn’t plan it. Maybe he didn’t want it, but it shows that he’s enjoying it in the movie. I think he enjoyed it just as much, if not more than what he previously wanted. That’s just my opinion though. Ima go sleep now night night
He's crying and happy because he's being accepted for who he really is. Deep down this isn't who he wants to be but who he has to become for the admiration. It's a well done film.
@@sagittarius4765 reminds me of Chara from Undertale, idrk why tho
2:55 This scene alone is better than the entire Joker 2.
Yep
When the moment Arthur formed the blood into a smile, there was no Arthur anymore. The Joker was born on this night.
This is the moment Hank Schrader turned into Heisenberg.
@@Gnarfledarf bro what
@@diegoarce6136 he’s referencing Breaking Bad, I don’t know if you’ve heard of it but it’s one of the greatest shows of all times
@@zainrodriguez3937 i know but isnt walter white heisenberg
@@diegoarce6136 yeah, i think the guy is just joking
I’m really glad Joker won the award for Best Original Score. The music in this movie made these scenes so much more powerful. Very well deserved.
1917 deserved it tho
@@acentialpapd9418absolutely Night Window and Sixteen Hundred men are straight 🔥
nothing compared to this@@Eric-1444
Joker: "You took everything from me".
Society: "I don't even know who you are."
Joker: "You will now."
Haha! I understood that reference. You are very cultured
Society later: o m g, he did it...
saddest part is, the society never gave him anything to begin with
Cringe. Get that garbage out of this great and serious movie, please.
@@Huntercooks No. He really isn't, kid.
Man, Joker was a master piece shame they never made a sequel
I'm sure it's better that way, lol.
Just imagine if a charismatic joker figure came on the scene today the hell that would be unleashed...
I shiver just thinking about it
It would be total and complete anarchy
It’s trump isn’t it lol
You must have been in a four year coma. Let me catch you up a bit....
something big like that is coming
New batman reboot
The Waynes: Ah shit here we go again
*Robert Patterson has entered the chat
Bruce be like how many times do I got to watch my parents get murdered
@@alyi2500 YES
Al Yi flash paradox thomas wayne: how many times do i got to watch bruce die and martha became the joker
i think about Uncle ben
I always loved just how the thugs removed Joker’s body from the police car so carefully as they’ve accepted him to be their new savior. As if they were about to crown him as their new king of crime or in Joker’s case, their new clown prince of crime.
lol prince of crime lmao
you missed the point of the whole movie. these people were just like Arthur, everyday working people tired of the system. revolution. a change.
And it's the clown* prince
@@playerhateroftheyear1084 And they cheered for him like he was their leader. What point am I missing exactly?
The thugs lol. Thugs need hugs. Look they are all sad 😔🤗
@@playerhateroftheyear1084 he literally said clown prince, also, shut up, it’s always you people who make these dumb comments, he was just REFERENCING, something
Perfect ending. What is all this talk about a sequel? Never heard of it
The Dark Knight: One man attempts to make Gotham as ugly as him
Joker: Gotham succeeds in making one man as ugly as them
Arthur did something Heath Joker tried to do without even trying.
I disagree. The Dark Knight Joker was more like testing the city. Showing it's true colors. Some people showed that they are actually bad, some shown that they are good.
In the dark knight the Gotham City were ugly even before that
@hasan veysel erol Not everyone is ready to kill so many people AND get in prison for that. So it's fine ending, at least in my oppinion. But if Joker had blown them up, next time people wouldn't hesitate.
Gotham creates the villains and the need for a Batman
I know he's the villain but this ending makes me so happy for him. A struggling performer at last finds his audience.
He's no villain.
@@tmcttf8087 The people who shaped him is
@@tomli9793 *Are. But yes, you're correct.
That’s because this movie puts you in his mind. You see and feel all the pain that motivates him so that when he finally snaps, you’re right there with him.
Society backed him into a corner and created him. He’s more a victim if anything
If you’ve ever wondered how Joker got so many people to work for him. Just watch this scene. He is an emblem, a hero, a saviour, for all the people who feel downtrodden in life.
The dark knight trilogy are for kids
Joker is for adults
Oh please, how can there be this many downtrodden people when there are billionaires in the- Oh right :(
@@lickenhuntsman5338weird way of putting another masterpiece down 🥱🤦♂️ heath ledger is a legend you can support a movie without putting another down
yeah, but Joker would be damn f-ing old when Bruce Wayne became Batman. Numbers are useless when most of them are elderly.
@@lickenhuntsman5338very childish thing to say something like this. Why can’t both be great?
After reading spoilers for Joker 2 Imma pretend this is how it ends. Joker 2 is some dream he has part way through this film.
I wish they had only been spoilers but I just watched the movie and I cannot believe what they did. Im so freaking pissed
Yes, the sequel was a dream from Arthur and he's still on Arkham 😭
Para mi Joker 2 nunca existió
@@sputnik8543 Go see it, the ending is 💩 but the rest of the movie is great
@@norm-bb3bb Tbh the movie was still really bad and should of never happened, a proper second movie should of been how Arthur was as joker, like taking over the city with his goons or something
What's sad is that Arthur was told to "Stay Down Freak" and Joker was told to "Get Up and Rise" so Arthur was never happy but Joker was
@Loonatick we live in a society
Loonatick I dont think you got the joke
Phantom_Flash don’t worry... He wouldn’t get it.
Daniel Usmany lmaoooooo. I see what you did there and I respect the hell out of it
Loonatick oh no. Im scared. Somebody help me get away from the keyboard warrior. aaaah. 😂😂
Ironically, Batman's father is the reason so many people turned to the Joker.
@Thinking face bcs he was an asshole
Thinking face partly. But mostly he was uncaring to the plight of the working class, and poor of Gotham. Instead of being emphatic to them, and offering to help, he calls them clowns who didn’t do anything with their lives. He was nothing more but an elitist douche, who spat on the people beneath him, and cared nothing to improve the city.
If only Thomas Wayne showed enough compassion to the people of Gotham for haughty eyes, (Which Wayne shows by looking down on the poor people of Gotham) and a lying tongue (Since He Lied how he wanted to help the poor people in Gotham so he can become mayor) these are despicable to God.
Then he kinda killed himself by pissing off Joker and causing the riots
Manuel Castro are there any other type?
This scene Brought tears to my eyes, the delicacy whem they were pulling him out the car. I always wondered how Joker accumulated so many Goons to a point where they were so expendable.
And yet he kills them for fun or laughs lol thats true nobility
@@saulramirez6117 This version of Joker has a bit more of a code, albeit a vague one. He's only killed people that have done wrong by him, not just for laughs. I wouldn't expect this interpretation to kill his own men, especially after they gave him the support he's spent his whole life yearning for.
@@saulramirez6117 I think the joker that also kills his goons is a joker that made after this joker, the original/Arthur was still in the insane asylum
Still brings tears to mine
@@alecazam432
Idk, I feel like you're expecting too much.
He's the Joker, not Arthur.
There is no sequel. This is the only movie that has been made about the character.
In this "Joker" universe, every time Bruce Wayne sees or even thinks about Joker, he can vividly remember his mother's blood splashing across his face as her pearls are torn from her neck. Suddenly, dressing up like a bat and fighting crime as a vigilante doesn't seem so crazy.
The bat costume is still a little out there lmao
@@coleber7389 Especially after watching Zorro
@@austinfondren5053 that's actually a cool observation. Now we know why Batman has a cape (if there will ever be a Batman equivalent of this movie).
Fighting to preserve the system seems crazy...and elitist
@@engineeringreality7878 Batman doesn't fight for the government. He fights so that no other eight year old boy would ever have to feel the pain he felt.
At the beginning: "Stay down you freak!"
At the end: "Come on! Get up!"
At the beginning: *forces a smile, still unhappy*
At the end: *draws a blood smile, finally happy*
I love it.
Beginning:laughing painfully to the social worker due to condition.
End:genuinely find bruce tragic situation funny and laughing like joker to the lady.
After watching Joker, I am starting to think The Dark Knight Trilogy are for kids lol
imagine arthur cut her mouth side to side in this scene
@@makinah4182 his but it doesn't matter
I love how when the Waynes are killed, there's a shot of blood splattering on the kids face to mirror the blood that goes on the Jokers face. It's showing the events that birthed batman and the Joker which is pretty cool
I think it goes further. Am I crazy or when he uses the blood to make the smile does it not make the fricking bat symbol, but in blood? Seriously pause at 3.25 and look at it. I'm sat here trying to work out first if I'm imagining it and second if that shit was actually super intentional symbolism or not? Like Joker's smile is the antithesis of what Batman will be? Most movie's I'd def say coincidence but this one...
@@pjs232 It probably is a coincidence, but if it’s not then that’s a great little detail.
All The People 3:16 Public Cheering who Can't Stand Murray Couldn't Stand MurrayLittleFingaRingMobsta , As I Couldn't Either , I'm Their HERO They CHEER Applaude At THAT ; eh? ... Pops
The Waynes were awful. Everyone is awful these days.
Now we need a Batman sequel to this
Let's all make an agreement here... and pretend that Joker 2 doesn't exists
💪🏽 great idea
2:40 This scene is actually beautiful. Seeing the newly made Joker dancing and being happy while on top of a police car in front of a crowd of supporters is actually pretty beautiful
the way the music breaks from the war drums to the strings makes this moment incredibly powerful.
the way he turns around and the smoke and the light is just a beautiful shot
Heath ledger originally committed suicide. Whining Batman fans had to beg higher officials to alter the reason to OD'ed.
I wish it ended with this scene. would have been perfect to cut to black as he turns to the crowd. Instead of showing him in the hospital
@2:06 Amazing scene, but I can’t help but laugh every time I see the wicker chair in the background. Like who brings a wicker chair to a freaking riot?! 😂
The rioters carrying joker was like “carefully, he’s a hero”
as like spiderman
This movie is not about some dumb guy with bat suit doing stupid things with silly voice.
This movie is about A MAN.
Licken Hunstman I don’t know wether or not I should see that as insulting Batman.
@@598superchris I feel like it shows the circular nature of violence begets violence.
C P what do you mean?
When he draws that smile... damn thats goosebumps!
In that moment agent of chaos was born
The same guy who is Batman's biggest enemy
The same guy who tortured Jason Todd
The same guy who crippled Batgirl
The same guy who manipulated and abused Harley Quinn
Think about how chilling that is
@@lifeofjeffrey2447 the man who will fill graveyards with his rampages.
The King of Gotham City
Glad to know I am not the only one.
Remember, this is the real ending guys.
This is how powerful DC is, if only they realise it.
Exactly! I'm Marvel fan but DC stuff is much more dark and relatable. They would blow the box office if WB handle that universe properly
@@daecimvs and if the heroes / villains were properly introduced to newer generations...
which means more good jokers, and NOT more killer-batmen
A want a DCU with this joker
DC just gotta stop trying to copy Marvel’s mcu formula and be more original… the result is movies like Joker
They make banging movies hell fucking trilogies but an expanded universe you’re asking too much
This was supposed to be a movie, not an instruction manual for 2020
Your right
It’s terrifyingly true
Oh my god why didn't I think of this
Thats right
What about social distancing?
That night, two faces born..
The Clown of crime
The Dark Knight
The prince clown of chaos and the dark knight
The Clown Prince of Crime...and...The Dark Knight.
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Right
I just had a nightmare where they made a sequel and they made it a musical and it starred Lady Gaga. Thankfully it was just nightmare
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Loooool
This doesn’t just feel like an origin story for the Joker but an origin for crime in Gotham as a whole and it just shows how fucked up the DC world can be.
For real
Damn right
And the real world too sadly people like joker exist i mean not exactly y know but people can really make Monsters out of a people with depresión
This is such a stupid comment, it's like me saying this is a batman origin
Because it lead up to the events of Batman
The same way you can say that the events created by Arthur lead to crime in Gotham.
You know there are cities across the world and even in the US that are worse...
People literally dying in the streets and bodies not being moved for days.
Joaquin pheonix derserved that Golden Globe, he did an outstanding job as Joker
And an extremely weak category this year helped
dr right wing: Did society touch you in the peen?
@@SirDankleberry no....my dad did.
@@drrightwing4435 "Knock Knock" scene
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He deserves the Oscar, SAG, Critics Choice and every award there is. It's high time we honor this incredible actor.
I swear, people applauded in the cinema after this movie ended.
@Oliver Jones agreed
I was the only one clapping in the theater and cheered when he killed Murray. My wife got mad and said “sit down you psycho” lol
@@elmercabrera7729 you have issues
Doug L no he doesn’t. Murray is a dick and i cant blame elmer for being happy about his death. I was happy too. Murray got what he fucking deserved
@@fckinfruit6776 For making fun of him? thats just too extreme dude im sorry
In my head, Joker II never happened, and Joaquin Phoenix's Joker is perfect and will always be.
This scene is pure art
JOKER I agree. I quote Jerome from Gotham “we could all go crazy from one bad day.”
It's beautiful
Lmao okay edge lord
Speaks for yourself.
@JudgeWarlock01 Couldn't said it any batter
That's why Joaquin Phoenix is a legend in movie history.
He is what beautiful film
Joaquin is also a genuine winner of awards.
He didn't win any just because of being an overdosed schmuck
@@desipop3654 Joaquin learns that Joker has a psychological disorder due to being treated like a trash, loss everything he cares about during the process.
👏
Mr Chaser that’s pretty disrespectful
The moment when he stands up and everyone cheered for him,
it was the moment where the Joker was born and it’s the only time
that everyone was actually really happy to see the villain rise.
Kind of like *THE RISE OF DONALD TRUMP*...
it was absolutely fucking beautiful man!
CLASSICALFAN .100 don’t be so ignorant you call him a villain yet you can’t say one thing against him you’re blind
@@CLASSICALFAN100 you watch too much fake news, dumb kid
It’s this kind of circlejerking that’s emblematic of a society that can produce somebody like the Joker. Outright rejection without consideration, a nonpartisan issue that has destroyed the thought process, regardless of what side of the political spectrum you’re on. Both sides of the spectrum are guilty of this. Wholesale hand waving and dismissal of people without any consideration for their point of view is precisely what started Fleck’s downward spiral, the only difference being the focal point (mental illness or opposing political stance).
If ever a movie did NOT need a sequel, it was this one.
I love how the rioters take care of him and respect him because to them, he’s their hero.
Not to mention the music score goes so well with this scene; almost like the beginning of freedom and triumph.
Also Arthur got what he always craved. An audience.
@@zeppelincraft1443 you took the words out of my mouth! Thank you 😁
i'm pretty sure they'd abandon him at the first sign of real trouble though.
He’s no hero, He’s an insane criminal who just want’s to watch the World burn.
@@zeppelincraft1443 yes,he did what is his audience are also his henchmen.
“Do I look like the clown who could start a movement?”
Well, buddy, you sure did.
Technically he didn't. People used him to start what they wanted and his existence simply gave them the excuse to say it wasn't them.
We got scar in this bih
This movie isn't an Anarchist manifesto, Arthur didn't build solidarity with his fellow workers and teach communist praxis, this is just shallow individual edgelord lashing out with no plan
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He mistakenly did. It was never his intention to start a riot or a political movement, and what he got in the end is the right audience who applauded him.
@@Paranoid0147 this isn't how a revolution started, Arthur should have read Anarchist theory Kropotkin if he trying to take down the Rich's oppression
When the guys pull out Arthur on the police car:
"Careful, he's a hero"
Did they really say that
@@thadasatitpanuvat5422 nope. I just referenced a scene from Spider Man 2. Its actually a meme now.
Alex Elle
Kinda creepy that they definitely see him as a hero.
LMAO
Honestly, the movie made me sympathize for the fucking Joker. They actually made me feel bad for the goddamn Joker. That’s how you can tell they did good.
This movie is a masterpiece.
This is how it ends. There is no second movie
"He raises hands above his head, does a little dance move
and the CROWD GOES CRAZY--
CLOSE ON JOKER, tears in his eyes from all the pain and
suffering, still he keeps smiling as he wipes his bloody hand
from one cheek across his mouth to his other cheek, smearing
a wide blood-soaked smile across his face so they can all see
how fucking happy he is--
*He is the Joker.* "
(lines from a script of "Joker")
Underrated
How about another joke Ellen Degenerate? What do you get when you give 0.0001% of your wealth to charity and are labelled a philanthropist despite not paying your staff and giving Melania Trump a golden pram? I'll tell you what you get. You get what you f'ing deserve!
Jack Green such is the way of the rich. Giving so little of their wealth to the poor just so the media will brand them as charitable and heroic. These people don’t care about you, me, or anyone else. They enjoy the fame and attention, and the riches that come with it. They enjoy relaxing in their mansions and driving their expensive vehicles while not caring at all for those of us who struggle with even just purchasing groceries. The fact that this society puts a lot of praise into celebrities (or more so, the fact that celebrities even exist) is quite honestly disgusting. But nothing can be done about it, because in the end, people have a compulsive need for a God or an idol, and often find respite praising awful, fake people.
it makes me think that if he had become a dancer instead of a humorist he shouldn't have killed people because he's a good dancer
Lumen Amen my friend
This movie is already a classic!!
Oh yes
Yes it is.
And little did we know this movie would basically come true about a year later
Agreed
Eh
Joaquin Phoenix deserves more than just one Oscar for the role he played. It's simply spectacular...the laugh, the physical extreme makeover, the dances, the moves...everything was simply great. His general performance is worthy of a standing ovation👏👏👏👏👏👏
So sad that many idiots specially on Twitter think he didn't deserve the Oscar, just because they hate the movie, is heartbreaking to read so many ignorant comments.
@@norm-bb3bb it's just because they are superficial, and they judge without trying to go beyond what they see on the big screen and appreciate the work and the efforts put on each element of the film.
All in all, the film was entirely great from all points of view, and the performance of Joaquin Phoenix was the touch of class nedeed to make it a masterpiece 🤩
I don't get why there was a opposition to this movie...what were the negative reviews saying? The film will stand out as a great for years to come
@@jordanmitchell4600They say it's a violent and disturbing movie, that transmits only bad emotions and could be potentially dangerous if watched by the wrong people. Anyway, I definitely agree with you, Joker is a masterpiece and will permanently stand among the best movies in the history of Hollywood.
@@hajarhilal9235 same people that used to say video games turn children into murderers. Now they have twitter
How tf did we go from this masterpiece to Folie a deux 💀
Todd Phillips probably thought he could do the same thing and make a trilogy like the Hangover trilogy
some comic book fans argue that existence of batman gave rise to joker and other villains of gotham city. But this film proved that society is capable of doing that even without existence of batman.
Reminds me of a line at the end of Arkham Origins, when Joker told Batman:
"We both exist because of THEM!"
yeah, that belief always frustrates me. whether you're a superhero or not, some people's lives will be wrought with adversity that tries desperately to break them. many people do break. they give up. they become the 'villains' because there's no reason to fight _for_ something. its so much easier to be the center of the universe. other people, less frequently, are hardened by the adversity and realize just how important it is _to_ fight. they become the heroes. they go the extra mile to ensure that what happened to them, doesnt happen to others.
its not true in the case of every super hero, but more often than not, the heroes and villains are created by the same forces. and of all the superheroes that have ever existed, that has never been more true of anyone than it is of batman. believing that "bad comes about to challenge the good" is ignorant and defeatist. bad will _always_ exist, because it will always be the easiest option. so you'd better hope and pray for goodness, because it doesnt have any such guarantee.
@@kyrridas1573 That's probably the biggest general difference between those who become superheroes and those who become supervillains; society and the world crushes those stuck within it. Some, like Arthur Fleck, either lose the good thing/person they had or never had such blessings and thus give in to add to the world's cruelty for themselves (Venom, Captain Cold, Doctor Doom, Lex Luthor), while others such as Bruce Wayne refuse to leave the world as it is and decide to do something to fix it despite how insurmountable that may seem (Spider-Man, the Flash, Mr. Fantastic, Superman).
The Batman and the Joker are really just the epitome of the subtle yet massive difference this can really cause.
Batman can't give rise to the joker in comics batman is more like mid 20s whereas joker is more like in his 40s and was in action way before that
That was tonight's entertainment
The scene at 3:13 when he forces his smile is PURE ART. I got chills every single time I watch it. Joaquin Phoenix really nailed this role! What a great movie
My favourite movie
Yeah, just that it's not forced. It's genuine. He is smiling as he realizes he can finally be himself and that he's being accepted just as he is.
I love to cry in rain because no one see my tears.
Charlie Chaplin
the iconic smile, i remember everyone cheering and losing their shit in the cinema seeing that scene
@@umbre04 same man, i just love the movie
"As you know, madness is like gravity, all it takes is a little push"
Joker
@SanjiMakesEdibles
Yes, we know that, it's a quote from The Dark Knight
Serbe1st that line makes no sense
@@libertyprime9477 Ok, just piss off then :)
Heath Ledger's Joker was, is and always will be the best take on the character
mike mccormick ehh . Disagree . Honestly it’s not comparable . Some say Phoenix is now the best and others say ledger is . The movies are honestly too different to compare .
There is only ONE Joker movie with a satisfying ending, this ending is THAT ending
2020: ends
2021: How about about another Joke
2022: okay I'm waiting for the punch line
No I think we’ve had enough of your jokes
@@MMLCGG YOU GET WHAT YOU F DESERVE
Humans will get what they f**king deserve:)
fuck you.. i don't wanna think about real life right now. just wanna see this scene and you dumbass wanna make a joke about our situation? Fuck you
@@deathizcertain fuck off, it’s a damn joke for fuck sakes
“A child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel it's warmth. ”
Basically sums up the character of Joker (Arthur Fleck)
Who's quote is that? Nice.
@@frankman2
It's A African Proverb
That's deep. Great quote.
I don't think Arthur is The Joker proper. I think he inspires the child that becomes The Joker 🃏.
Didn’t u just copy this from another comment from years ago on this very video?
everything about the final scene when joker stood on the car was perfect. the precise camera angles and movements, the blood smudged by arthur to reflect his “happy” smile, the soundtrack that accompanies it. it’s perfect.
And the hand guns at the end to kill Arthur
Don’t forget the time when both of Gotham’s two iconic legends were born.
Finally he painted his smile with blood and became a real monster. Terryfing moment.
this ending is much MUCH better than joker folie a deux ending 😭
It still makes my skin crawl lmao