I don't think I have ever seen such a total transformation in cinema. There's nothing, absolutely nothing, of Arthur Fleck by the end. It's all Joker. It's incredible. The destruction of a soul.
Ciaran O'Connell I have not seen it yet but hearing this piece of music , it definitely relates to your comment , how he’ll fully descend into the joker.
Clearly missed the point of the movie, It's everythiing what Arthur wanted him standing up the car and seeing the world noticing him finally is all he wanted. I get you enjoyed the movie and agree its a masterpiece but don't butcher the storytelling by saying nothing left when it shows in dark way he finally achieved what he wanted.and don't forget that dance. that has been always his way of 'expressing peace.
I think it's more of him embracing his inner Joker who is this psychopathic, chaotic, deranged individual and leaving his past self which was always trying to be a part of the group and to be seen. That interview was like the final obstacle of his transformation. The killings prior felt conflicted but once he truly embraced his inner peace and claimed that last victim, killing was no longer a concern but more of a joke. I think in that scene too he was genuinely laughing for happiness and not just uncontrollably laughing from his condition. When he was on top of the car wreckage and painted that bloody smile on his face while he overlooked the crowd that was praising him, I think then, was his final transition from Arthur to Joker.
+Fuad Kattan I disagree. There was still hope for him in various places but one after the other, it got crushed pushing him down the path of becoming the Joker. He wanted a relationship with his neighbour, he cared for his mother only for her to tell him that she abused him because of Thomas Wayne, he tried to be a comedian but his hero & the audience mocked him savagely. I agree that he wanted to fit in with the world and society but they wouldn't let him. But that's very different from saying Arthur & Joker are essentially the same person. If the neighbour loved him and he had a long term relationship with her, if his mother apologised and treated him better, if his hero left him well enough alone and he got a job making people laugh and was left alone without getting abused, he would still be Arthur Fleck 100%. He would still need treatment for his mental health issues but there's no way he becomes the Joker if people treated him right. Everything he wanted before, i.e., love, acceptance, making people genuinely laugh, he can never have now and that's the destruction of a soul. It wasn't being ignored by the world that created the Joker as you are claiming. It was the embrace of pure nihilism, almost as a defence mechanism after the constant abuse from every angle, and the emotional, personal destruction of everything Arthur dreamed and cared about inside himself that led to Joker. There's a quote from Fight Club: ''only after losing everything, are we free to do anything''. Everything that was Arthur is gone, now Joker can do anything. The Joker doesn't care about love or acceptance or trying to impress people he likes, all things Arthur badly wanted.
@@Primal_Traders I literally had chills on my back and tears in my eyes watching this scene. Seeing him finally able to vocalise what he feels, seeing how shedding his humanity frees him is soul crushing. Especially when you realise how much society failed him and that only in violence he found his meaning. Beautiful film.
I went to see this movie twice back in 2019. I cried so much watching this movie from start to finish. Such a powerful message. To me, the sequel doesn’t exist.
3:41-4:27 is the saddest part of the song...I just watched this film last Tuesday & saw myself in Arthur, I'm crying rn I'm as listening to this song & writing this comment, legit...I watched this film to get ready for the sequel but after everything I've heard about it, I don't wanna watch it anymore, so to me the sequel also doesn't exist.
@Iqzzy-KO I feel the same as you, arthur connects to me as well and it was a huge mistake watching the sequel. Save yourself the money and time and enjoy the first movie for the masterpiece it is!!
@@micajohansson1138 oh sorry, I completely missed this. That's great. A well deserved win for both Ramin and Hildur. Here is hoping she takes an Oscar for Joker 👍🏼👍🏼
3:41-4:27 is the saddest part of the song...I just watched this film last Tuesday & saw myself in Arthur, I'm crying rn I'm as listening to this song & writing this comment, legit...
When he stood up in front of that massive crowd, blood drew across his face as a smile... I didn’t know what to feel. Should I be happy that this poor, abused man Arthur Fleck has finally gotten the outcome he wanted; to be noticed and appreciated by a joyful crowd? Should I be upset that in the end, he was broken by society and became the Joker? Everything about this scene is bittersweet.
This soundtrack is exactly what you're saying, its epic but ominous, sad because Arthur finally died there he didn't have to end up like that, if only somebody helped him
Felt the same way. You were feeling really bad for him. You didn't want him to feel sad or depressed but it was inevitable fate. It was a satisfying transformation but you didn't want Arthur to go. Kinda makes you feel conflicted if it's okay Batman beats the shit out of him later in life. Lol obviously he kills more people but still...he went through shit.
John Smithee after Joker and Chernobyl this year she’ll be in pretty high demand, I can definitely see her eventually becoming as big as Hanz Zimmer and John Williams in terms of how recognised and famous they are
People need to understand the fact that we actually can’t compare Ledger’s joker and Phoenix’s. The first one was in a superhero comic book movie, with Batman in it, so there was plenty of fight scenes etc. But Phoenix’s joker is all about the downfall of a man, slowly, into madness and despair. And at the end, a man who finally found a sense to his life. So, first one is all about war, second one is all about psychology. We can’t compare them, they’re both masterpieces in their own ways.
Its an explanation to why this villain might've turned out this way and that's mainly it . The movie is more of Arthur and only Joker towards the end .
It's a destruction of an already mad and desperate good soul into a revenger that searches for purpose and retaliation. Maybe it's just me, but through the whole movie untill the point he painted his hair green, Arthur seemed like good guy that everybody pushes around because they know he won't do anything in return.. When the whole transformation into joker began, I was honestly happy for him, specialy when he painted that smile with his blood, that was the point of no return, even if it was maybe everything just in his mind.
At the same time that the monster is born, between cheers and applause, the hero is born alone in an alley, without knowing that he is doomed to fight his all life against the same madness who took everything from him. There is only one way to define this: Poetry
Marvel : the best Burger King in the neighborhood every day of the year DC : your old aunt feeding you crappy food from the store and once in while, making her special awesome meal just for you
This scene during this track made me so conflicted... I clapped for him cheered for him...seeing how happy he was... And yet I cried for him...mourned for him... Seeing what he had become.. Please give this composer an Oscar!!
@@xxGaM3rSkiillzx I got the dark knight imagery in the cop car, but it was just something so different. Him on the bonnet potentially dead was very Arkham City too.
I actually see the comedy in this. The son hadn't done anything to die like that, it was all because of something out of his control that killed him. His death made no sense, and we all can, and probably will die like that, without any reason to. And if our death is senseless than so is our life. And if our life makes no sense, than it's a joke.
I laughed really loud in that scene. I was the awkward loner laughing at all the fucked up parts. Majestic movie. Dark and creepy keeps u gripped in the loneliness of his life.
Learn It yes really close to our reality. As we all know that people beat up random people with mental disabilities on a daily basis for no good reason.
Right after Chernobyl, one of the most depressing and Incredible soundtracks I've heard in my life, Hildur brings us back to that feeling with the Joker.
Arthur killed 3 young men: he’s done with the system Arthur killed his mother: he’s done with family tragedy Arthur killed Franklin: he’s done with his career But he didn’t kill himself
Best parts of the film: 1. Joker dancing down the stairs 2. The entire talk show scene 3. Joker in the police car watching the city burn 4. Arthur putting the makeup on and becoming the Joker 5. Everything
3:41-4:27 is the saddest part of the song...I just watched this film last Tuesday & saw myself in Arthur, I'm crying rn I'm as listening to this song & writing this comment, legit...
because reality don't have any of that kind who survive: Albert Roche was an amazing french soldier who died because a car after the war for example... and history keep the murderer, not the doctor Ps: im french (thank you beaucoup much)
I really hope DC continue down this R rated road and create masterpieces like joker. Don’t try and replicate what marvel do or if you do leave batman out of it. An R rated Gothamverse is the way forward.
I didn’t think anyone could top Zimmers manic and eerie vibe for Ledgers Joker. This is superior in my opinion. Dark, sad, creepy, necessary. Hildur deserves an award for this.
They are totally different genre-wise. Zimmer's theme embodies the chaotic, unnerving, completely inhumane nature of the Ledger's Joker, which is why his theme is composed of various ambient sounds and doesn't sound melodic. This Joker is sympathetic in a lot of ways, which is why the music has melancholic orchestral motifs.
In the end, no one was clapping or cheering in my theater. It was dead silent. we just witnessed the birth of the most infamous sociopath in comic book history. I've never been in a theater that bone-chilling before... & I don't think I'll ever forget. Beautiful movie! Truly a Masterpiece.
In my theatre, a few people clapped but it was a shy clap. I wanted to clap too but I wasn't sure if i even should or not. It was like choosing between a less evil or greater evil. This movie had that type of impact.
i respect people who don't clap during a movie. its annoying as hell and why i hated going to see the avengers in the theaters. a character simply breathing made them go mad. this aint no live sitcom people you're screaming at a wall!
When he started draw a smile on his face with his own blood. And then smilling while opening his arm, and the crowd cheering for him (whilst this song playing in the background at 3:54) GOOSEBUMPS !!!!
One of the most powerful scenes ever put on film. He was always weak in the movie. He was always lost. But when he stood up on that car, he was the most powerful man in the world. Even death couldn't stop him at this point. He was a symbol. And at this moment he knew who he was.
Really? You're going to ruin this masterpiece for yourself by associating it to depression. I could even use this for a workout or motivation or just to hear the beautiful melody. I mean, subjectively, I know that's how music works, but, imo your shortselling the song.
Jack Napier: Tell me something my friend. Ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? Joker: [Dances in the pale moonlight on top of a wrecked police car, cheered by his audience]
And he made the Ledger smile with blood the very same moment. That's like... Joker-ception. Even if it's unintentional, it's still a curious coincidence.
@@dustinakadustin The smile he made with the blood from his mouth looked similar to what Ledger's Joker had. That chaotic, dirty red line reminded me of it.
@@foxhound-0 and there was turning back for him. I felt happy when he finally stop taking all that shit happened to him, but at the same time I felt sad about him. No change of redemption. Arthur died and there was only Joker left
Yezen Joaquin and Todd literally said they’re looking forward to the conversations that will be had about the films. Debating what was real, but also seriously talking about mental illness and how we and society treats it.
That's basically the difference between both, one is bombastic and full and one is somber and emotional, it doesn't go for all movies but remember that the best movies they made aren't for their casual audience and also made by different diractors, marvel has logan and dc has joker
Everyone saying that Phoenix deserves an Oscar for best actor. Totally agree, but c'mon give Hildur Gudnadottir an Oscar too. This soundtrack is amazing. Edit after the Oscars Ceremony: She did it! She won!
"In my whole life, I didn't know if I even really existed." Uses his own blood to create a smile "But I do." Turns around, looks at a crowd of clowns, who look at him like a hero. "And people are starting to notice."
*Joker laughs* Therapist: "Is something funny?" Joker: "I just thought of a funny joke." Therapist: "Do you mind telling it?" *Joker grins sadly* Joker: "You wouldn't get it."
Alpha Dragon yeah he killed her, remember if he had blood on his socks before then those footprints would've been in the hallway before he came out the room, he didn't get those bloody footprints until he left the therapist, I think it was Todd Phillips way of trying to make sure that the audience realizes he's officially snapped and we should no longer continue to feel bad for him at this point
@alpha dragon Yes he does! When he comes out of the room after seeing the therapist, the way he walks and swings, the bloody footprint... that's where Joker takes over Arthur Fleck, Arthur is lost in Joker's mind now. He begins having fun killing
This movie helped me through a tough time in my life. I went to the cinema twice, and then I saw "Joker" four or five times. In a way, I could identify with the character, and the brilliant music heightened the emotions. I even bought a poster of Joker on the stairs. For me, it's absolutely one of the best films in the history of cinema. I think that many people loved the character of Joker created by Phoenix, because this Joker became their friend, helped to fight loneliness, depression, misunderstanding. At many points in life we feel that we can't tell anyone about our problems, that no one will understand us. Then he understood us. Joker.
It's better sweet,your legit trying to pull for him, and at the end as he's truly joker form with this score,you actually feel for him,and ironically a somebody wanting to be a somebody and known,and in fact he became just that
@@robertgomez4724 exactly, I feel some people can relate to the character and soundtrack. It's his journey into the Joker which nobody knows the origin of but had to have been a sad one. Like they say a clown is always crying on the inside.
At home everyone wants you to be normal, at work everyone wants you to be normal even by going out for some groceries you GOTTA be normal. No one cares that you're not just "not normal", but you're just trying your best despite being broken.
Endgame was a big budget film that had a bunch of stars, special effects, and big action sequences. You add up all those ingredients, you make a big box office hit. Joker on the other hand didnt need any of that. It only needed a small budget, the right screenplay, the right director, and the right actor to deliver an all time great performance and what was delivered? Not only a box office hit, but a masterpiece that seemingly captured the whole planet.
The right IP can't be understated though. Take away the movie's basis on pretty much the most popular fictional villain of all time or at least for this generation in the absence of Vader and the legacy of Heath Ledger..and the movie wouldn't nearly be as popular. Still a great movie of course. But it's ties to the superhero genre thats at its peak right now, and DC comics & the Joker character too are all undoubtedly huge factors into its high gross.
It fits that scene in particular too. It covers so many emotions that he’s going through in that scene. It’s so beautiful but also intimidating. It’s beautiful but raw, sad, angry, and alone. It’s just such a powerful song for such a powerful scene
33% of people: Ledger Joker is the best! 33% of people: Phoenix Joker is the best! 33% of people: You cannot compare them, they are both epic and unique 100% of people: Leto Joker is a disgrace
Jean Pablo Twice well you really cant compare them, ledger didnt get a solo movie, and he didn’t even get to play the joker again since he OD now will he always be one of many best jokers yes but can we say that phoenix is better than ledger no
When Arthur was standing on that car, with the crowd of rioters cheering him on...I felt a little happy for him. He was alive and people noticed him. People were cheering for him. But at the same time, I felt sad for him. Arthur was gone and all that was left was Joker.
I didn't feel anything except just laughing at the scene. The movie had already proven itself as a great dark comedy to me at that point so I was just laughing Max Cady style in the cinema by that point. No doubt the anarchist thing is likely a callback to the anarchy themes we saw Nolan employ to try ground the previous Batman villains we saw with Joker & Bane..but Todd Phillips does the opposite and uses that anarchy to just play up the insanity of the situation.
I think after what happened to him as a kid, Arthur was permanently damaged and couldn't be fixed. He had a choice to continue living a painful half life as Arthur or transition completely into the Joker.
@@azazel_-or5pm Endgame does deserve some form of Oscar recognition but Joker at least needs to get Best Actor and Best Score nominations or else I'm going to raid the Oscars.
It’s such a shame they messed up what could have been a masterpiece. The excitement I had after the first movie turned into disappointment after watching the second one. They really should’ve stopped after the first.
Y'know, you can't really compare a CGI-filled colourful superhero action movie to a psychological dark crime thriller. Both movies are equally great in their own ways
Spoilers if you haven’t seen Joker yet My favorite scene in the movie is the second to last one. He finds out his mouth is bleeding so he creates a smile out of his own blood. I love that because I think it’s the most Joker like scene in the movie. I feel like that is where Arthur died and Joker took complete control over his body. When he killed Murray I think that was Arthur not Joker because on the show he was intending to kill himself but Murray got him mad so ARTHUR (not joker) decided to kill him instead. But at the end he completely embodies the Joker persona.
I’d take it differently, in the first scene of the movie he’s looking himself at the mirror while painting his face, his life has been nothing but sorrow and misery, he’s trying his best at work, at home and in life but nothing matters, people are mean, cruel and awful with him even though his effort to live normally, while looking at his face he forces a smile with his fingers while he cries, he’s suffering every day of his life because his efforts are insignificant in the end. In the last scene he has liberated himself from the suffering the society has brought in return to every good intention he has, he finally gets some sort of recognition and attention, he bleeds but not because some children decided it was ok to beat him for fun, he bleeds because someone gave a damn about him, so he smiles, nothing can hurt him anymore, and this time, he finally feels understood
Never realized how this music could also be comforting and healing, kinda like someone shares your pain and sadness during hardships and expresses it in sound. Great movie by the way!
fateflysy I’m 14 and when I saw that scene, I was thrilled. Finally a movie that doesn’t hold anything back, it’s going all out and really shows the villainy (is that a word?) unlike Venom
I love how Arthur let Gary go... after all he was just there to cheer him up and share bottle with him unlike Randall who probably wanted to Steal Arthur's gun back or something... despite all the violence and the "funny" parth where he couldn't leave it's kind of a heartwarming scene.
@@awesomesharkhand1876 It's not a bad thing. Some versions of Joker exist only to challenge batman, they showed up after him and are obsessed with him. This version stands on his own, he became who he was before batman did, and the Joker's actions in this movie directly led to Batman's creation, which is a pretty cool reversal
@@GhostInPajamas There's nothing wrong about a Joker without a Batman. There's nothing wrong with a Batman without the Joker. But I don't really see a Joker without a Batman as a plus. To me, it's neutral leaning on a little on negative.
@@awesomesharkhand1876 Fair enough, I just think the Joker is very special on his own. His dynamic with batman is awesome, but he's half of what makes it awesome
@@GhostInPajamas Cool. I disagree because to me, without Batman, Joker runs close to becoming just another evil clown. Batman completes the Joker. Without the Joker, Batman is just a joke without a punchline.
This film right here, tops everything the MCU has to offer This right here, it’s the true beauty of cinema... it’s a cinematic masterpiece that we won’t see in a very, very long time
At this point I hate Marvel. Their movies are average but they bully people with their marketing campaigns. Black Panther was an average movie that blackmailed audiences into watching it and claimed to be the first "black movie" which was a total lie. Much more talented directors in the 70s were the ones who took chances with black actors in leads and by the 90s it was completely normalized, yet Marvel pretended we were back in 1950s and used race to try to create a problem and then presented their movie as a solution to that fictional problem. They then again tried it with Captain Marvel to less success but labelled all those who saw through the bullshit as sexist this time. For a very long time they've had their army of fake reviewers give all their generic popcorn flicks positive ratings and movies made by other studios negative reviews. Before Joker was released they got their Rotten Tomato and media buddies to review Joker negatively and even went as far to try to get authorities to try to pull the movie because its "dangerous". The only danger this movie posed was in exposing how crap Marvel movies and their actors all are and the pathetic hit job on Joker prior to its release then it being a masterpiece just highlights how shitty of a studio Marvel is. If anyone ever wants to watch a Marvel movie again out of OCD needing to know what happens let me know and I'll give you a free link to the film so you can watch it while knowing you aren't giving your money to that evil studio. Honestly Marvel at this point "You get what you Fucking Deserve" with all the damage they have done to society its about time people start speaking out.
john smith wow I did not knew that. Honestly I always looked at Marvel fil- sorry I mean movies, as pretty ok and sometimes good. But now, there average and some are bad. Ever noticed how you can’t rewatch a Marvel movie? That’s because the more you think about them, the more flaws you’ll see.
@@sirpranksalot1 fucking THANK YOU. gosh Marvel's arrogance was so bad it made me hate them. they thought they could do no wrong around the time guardians 1 came out. "we don't have to try anymore. we can make a movie with a talking raccoon and people will go see it!" and they always had RDJ to foam in a performance as a safety net. the fact they relied so much on 'jokes' too made it 10 times worse. I saw the Mcu movies as happy meal movies. they're quick and easy to make, but you forget about em just as fast. I have not once re watched a single marvel movie because there's seriously nothing new to catch unlike movies such as MOS or BVS which rely on symbolism. People trying to call ant man a "heist movie" bull its a lame superhero movie that no one cares about, not even the characters or background civilians in the universe care about ant man XD "oh but he meets falcon" who gives a shit about falcon?! for that matter, who cares about bucky post winter soldier or war machine? they're just THERE. they don't DO anything with them!
The Joker doesn't deserve Oscars, because the movie is too good for it to be ridiculed or slandered by some losers critics who don't understand the reality or the hardships of the every day person. This movie will be talked for the next 2 decades because it had the guts to show the reality of the world that we live in and the biggest consequences that it can have when people have had enough with the broken system that tries to silence their suffering and pain or to not give a chance to live a decent life.
I'm loving that movies are understanding the importance of how soundtracks play a role in a film now and vice versa. It sets the tone, pace, and motif of a scene/chapter/story and directors / actors are going off of that feeling a soundtrack produces.
@@enjoyerofsilence not trolling at all. Todd Phillips said in an interview that she wrote the music before the movie and they had the bathroom dance piece prior filming.
Finally, also Joker has its own theme. Hans Zimmer created the perfect Batman's theme, and Hildur Guðnadóttir created the perfect insane, crazy, fool Joker's theme. Those two notes... oooh...
Black Laser despite what critics and the media are saying I think it goes beyond white straight men, beyond race, class, and mental state, this can be anybody who society has failed to empathize with or understand, and the media continues to perpetuate violence and cause unrest amongst the people.
@@jcnom6606 Exactly why the elites did not like this movie, they saw tgis movie might give all people an idea that we are all getting fucked over together, color doesnt matter here.
-Awesome character -Outstanding actor -Fantastic writing -Brilliant art direction -Tremendous tone -Awesome musical score -Great cinematography -Masterpiece of a movie
The two aren't mutually exclusive lol. It makes you sound very pompous or as though you're flattering your own movie tastes when you sort them into binary categories like that. But I agree, MCU films are mostly pop corn flicks whereas Joker is the closest we've got so far to a contemplative - dare I say arthouse? - superhero film. Probably not arthouse. But safe to say a character study that balances a popular crowd pleasing IP with some more daring sensibilities we don't often associate with superhero flicks. Shoutout to Hulk 2003 though for trying and failing to be the first 'muh muh im psychologically deep' superhero character study. also shoutout to Zaddy Snyder for turning Watchmen into sex scene and boof bam punches
@@clairemarcel466 Avoid spoilers. This film isn't that violent but will leave you very, very disturbed, shook and moved. It's one of the best films I've ever seen.
@@darshan.88 I sure will do my best to avoid them, thanks! 😊 I didn't expect any less from JOKER and I'm looking forward to the experience, regardless of how "dark" it might be. I'm really curious to see how violence and the human condition are treated in the film.
It'll definitely leave you moved. This take on the Joker as we know him is amazing. There are times I'd even say it rivals the Joker from The Dark Knight.
From 2:59-3:30, it’s sounds like the last wisp of Arthur, fading away, before the blood smile, and his transformation. I never thought I’d come out of a joker movie mourning the simple, awkward, and heartbreaking guy trying “not to feel so bad all the time.” Totally assumed that halfway in he’d shed the awkwardness and triumph. But it really doesn’t happen till the very end, and for me it was far less triumphant than it was sad. Between this movie, the master, and you were never really here, JP is truly the greatest actor of my generation.
I don't think I have ever seen such a total transformation in cinema. There's nothing, absolutely nothing, of Arthur Fleck by the end. It's all Joker. It's incredible. The destruction of a soul.
Ciaran O'Connell I have not seen it yet but hearing this piece of music , it definitely relates to your comment , how he’ll fully descend into the joker.
Clearly missed the point of the movie, It's everythiing what Arthur wanted him standing up the car and seeing the world noticing him finally is all he wanted. I get you enjoyed the movie and agree its a masterpiece but don't butcher the storytelling by saying nothing left when it shows in dark way he finally achieved what he wanted.and don't forget that dance. that has been always his way of 'expressing peace.
I think it's more of him embracing his inner Joker who is this psychopathic, chaotic, deranged individual and leaving his past self which was always trying to be a part of the group and to be seen. That interview was like the final obstacle of his transformation. The killings prior felt conflicted but once he truly embraced his inner peace and claimed that last victim, killing was no longer a concern but more of a joke. I think in that scene too he was genuinely laughing for happiness and not just uncontrollably laughing from his condition. When he was on top of the car wreckage and painted that bloody smile on his face while he overlooked the crowd that was praising him, I think then, was his final transition from Arthur to Joker.
+Fuad Kattan I disagree. There was still hope for him in various places but one after the other, it got crushed pushing him down the path of becoming the Joker. He wanted a relationship with his neighbour, he cared for his mother only for her to tell him that she abused him because of Thomas Wayne, he tried to be a comedian but his hero & the audience mocked him savagely.
I agree that he wanted to fit in with the world and society but they wouldn't let him. But that's very different from saying Arthur & Joker are essentially the same person. If the neighbour loved him and he had a long term relationship with her, if his mother apologised and treated him better, if his hero left him well enough alone and he got a job making people laugh and was left alone without getting abused, he would still be Arthur Fleck 100%. He would still need treatment for his mental health issues but there's no way he becomes the Joker if people treated him right. Everything he wanted before, i.e., love, acceptance, making people genuinely laugh, he can never have now and that's the destruction of a soul. It wasn't being ignored by the world that created the Joker as you are claiming. It was the embrace of pure nihilism, almost as a defence mechanism after the constant abuse from every angle, and the emotional, personal destruction of everything Arthur dreamed and cared about inside himself that led to Joker. There's a quote from Fight Club: ''only after losing everything, are we free to do anything''. Everything that was Arthur is gone, now Joker can do anything. The Joker doesn't care about love or acceptance or trying to impress people he likes, all things Arthur badly wanted.
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*The most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose*
- James Baldwin
This quote fits this movie perfectly
It's only after you loose everything you are free to do anything- fight club
A Child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel some warmth.
- An African proverb
joker himself says he has nothing to lose when asked why he's confessing the murders
@@Modestasgailius it was cents not sense
@@Primal_Traders I literally had chills on my back and tears in my eyes watching this scene. Seeing him finally able to vocalise what he feels, seeing how shedding his humanity frees him is soul crushing. Especially when you realise how much society failed him and that only in violence he found his meaning. Beautiful film.
Joker is honestly one of the most powerful pieces of cinema i've ever seen. Spectacular movie.
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Yes
Absolutely.
Tormentor Of Souls I was on a comedown n holy shit it made me feel so much more depressed even though the movie is absolutely outstanding 🤣
Idk about that
I went to see this movie twice back in 2019. I cried so much watching this movie from start to finish. Such a powerful message. To me, the sequel doesn’t exist.
I think the fact the sequel was sooooo bad, made the first one even better
It does exist, and those who made it hate you. Harness your hate, or you learned nothing from this film.
3:41-4:27 is the saddest part of the song...I just watched this film last Tuesday & saw myself in Arthur, I'm crying rn I'm as listening to this song & writing this comment, legit...I watched this film to get ready for the sequel but after everything I've heard about it, I don't wanna watch it anymore, so to me the sequel also doesn't exist.
@Iqzzy-KO I feel the same as you, arthur connects to me as well and it was a huge mistake watching the sequel. Save yourself the money and time and enjoy the first movie for the masterpiece it is!!
I'm with you brother
"if it was me dying on the streets you would just walk past me!"
to me, that is the most powerful line in the movie
that's kinda like today's society whenever there's a homeless man on the street people just walk right by him.
@@Alexlemay17200 my thoughts exactly...even people like Arthur gets the same treatment...to me that is just heartbreaking
@@Alexlemay17200 yet, we live in a society
my parents taught me by dying in the gutter. They taught me the world only makes sense if you force it to - Batman
Ash Gamer95
same
Such a sad sad film, truly Oscar worthy.
yes :(
Rian Jhonson fucked u xd
El Héroe Del Tiempo ruin Johnson is terrible
@Jimbo Jones That line is stuck in my head, lol.
melancholic =/= oscar worthy
Wow. This is heartbreaking and depressing. I hope Hildur gets an Oscar nod for this score. It's outstanding.
She also deserved an Emmy for her Chernobyl score. It was fantastic. Not to take anything away from Ramin Djawadi amazing work.
@@john_gal she did won an Emmy for Chernobyl for mini series music.
@@micajohansson1138 oh sorry, I completely missed this. That's great. A well deserved win for both Ramin and Hildur. Here is hoping she takes an Oscar for Joker 👍🏼👍🏼
3:41-4:27 is the saddest part of the song...I just watched this film last Tuesday & saw myself in Arthur, I'm crying rn I'm as listening to this song & writing this comment, legit...
"A child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."
this is so deep and terrifying
That proverb is Arthur's entire life
Me playing Minecraft
Sounds like naruto no offense HAHA
Ok society
When he stood up in front of that massive crowd, blood drew across his face as a smile... I didn’t know what to feel. Should I be happy that this poor, abused man Arthur Fleck has finally gotten the outcome he wanted; to be noticed and appreciated by a joyful crowd? Should I be upset that in the end, he was broken by society and became the Joker? Everything about this scene is bittersweet.
I still remember watching that beautiful scene and saying "Now, that's the Joker".
Best movie I've seen in 2019.
I felt so happy for him at that moment
This soundtrack is exactly what you're saying, its epic but ominous, sad because Arthur finally died there he didn't have to end up like that, if only somebody helped him
Felt the same way. You were feeling really bad for him. You didn't want him to feel sad or depressed but it was inevitable fate. It was a satisfying transformation but you didn't want Arthur to go. Kinda makes you feel conflicted if it's okay Batman beats the shit out of him later in life. Lol obviously he kills more people but still...he went through shit.
you described it PERFECTLY.
*Joker Director:* 'I need great music for my movie'
*Hildur:* 'All I have...is great music'
Fun fact : Hildur made the music only by reading the script .
Makes it even more impressive as well - she understood the essence of the character
@@johnsmithee6660 Facts
John Smithee after Joker and Chernobyl this year she’ll be in pretty high demand, I can definitely see her eventually becoming as big as Hanz Zimmer and John Williams in terms of how recognised and famous they are
I want to like this comment but don't want to make it 667
Movie: 10/10
The last 15min of this movie: 20/10.
Never saw such an awesome and goosebump giving ending.
@Long Nguyen that's why he gave it 20 over 10 lol
Watch John wick 3 also have a badass ending
I never like a comment, but i never agreed with a comment in such a way before
Assassin X oh c’mon man you really out here comparing John Wick to Joker?
I guess I'm getting the dvd, whenever it comes out.
Everyone, you can’t let one bad sequel ruin a total masterpiece like this ❤
People need to understand the fact that we actually can’t compare Ledger’s joker and Phoenix’s. The first one was in a superhero comic book movie, with Batman in it, so there was plenty of fight scenes etc. But Phoenix’s joker is all about the downfall of a man, slowly, into madness and despair. And at the end, a man who finally found a sense to his life. So, first one is all about war, second one is all about psychology. We can’t compare them, they’re both masterpieces in their own ways.
Its an explanation to why this villain might've turned out this way and that's mainly it . The movie is more of Arthur and only Joker towards the end .
It's a destruction of an already mad and desperate good soul into a revenger that searches for purpose and retaliation.
Maybe it's just me, but through the whole movie untill the point he painted his hair green, Arthur seemed like good guy that everybody pushes around because they know he won't do anything in return..
When the whole transformation into joker began, I was honestly happy for him, specialy when he painted that smile with his blood, that was the point of no return, even if it was maybe everything just in his mind.
touge34 yes , when he painted that blood smile on his face , that was the moment he finally became « someone »
@@più_lento_28_13 His first performance where he was seen.
Totally agree. I think both actors played their role perfectly, and would fare much more poorly had they played the other's role.
At the same time that the monster is born, between cheers and applause, the hero is born alone in an alley, without knowing that he is doomed to fight his all life against the same madness who took everything from him.
There is only one way to define this: Poetry
Damn didn't think of this!
Epic
Beautiful way to put it
Never though it this way. Damm so true
I love that on the same night at the exact same moment both Batman and Joker are born, sent chills down me during that moment.
when he painted smile at his mouth was fckin brilliant..it's very emotional
Let's put a smile on that face!
@@ulquiorraschiffer1956 i must admit..pheonix performance surpass ledger
@@zaimfikri6712 his joker is way too unique than other jokers. I loved it
@@ulquiorraschiffer1956 yeah so satisfied with his performance..unique and terrified at the same time
Zaim Fikri I’ll say this, ledger wasn’t the focus of the dark knight. Phoenix obviously is the focus of his own movie.
He's did it everyone. Joaquin Phoenix has won the OSCARS for BEST ACTOR.
I actually shed tears of joy! I’m so happy he finally won🙌🏾
And best music...
Hildur won for the soundtrack ❤️
@@joshhawkins1882 she deserved it too. I really loved how she made her music come to life
@@hxach hey sorry about it. No need for that man.
"I'm waiting for the punchline"
"There is no punchline"
The Hound i forgot to punch out
spoiler
Bang! Headshot!
YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE
You're awful Murray
“Knock knock”
Marvel : We made the best movie of 2019, 40 superheroes, nobody can top that!
DC: Send in the Clown.
Alvin Memisevic send in the clown
@@hotmessemo3884 s
It would have been better if you said “Send In The Clown”
Endgame is a good movie with a shit villain, Joker is a good movie about a villain
Marvel : the best Burger King in the neighborhood every day of the year
DC : your old aunt feeding you crappy food from the store and once in while, making her special awesome meal just for you
This scene during this track made me so conflicted... I clapped for him cheered for him...seeing how happy he was... And yet I cried for him...mourned for him... Seeing what he had become..
Please give this composer an Oscar!!
I teared up when the crowd starts going wild and cheer for him. I can't really explain what it was but it's damn powerful.
This music is more powerful when watching the movie in Dolby screening
Yup. I got all teared up. Joaquin gettin that Oscar!
@@kroganbaby6163 They cheer for him now that he's a broken man...but nobody ever cheered for Arthur.
Is it when Joker dance in public toilet? Or on the car?
Who's here after Joaquin and Hildur won their well deserved Oscars?
Best actor is the boy of Spiderman
The Ghost of Winterfell just noticed the two billion dollar movies in the dceu the main characters name is Arthur
@@travellerdesign4459 you need to grow up
@@travellerdesign4459 lol cool joke boomer
Their Fuckin' deserved Oscars.
XD
When it plays at the end and he makes a smile out of blood. Gawd everyone started clapping. Bravo DC
Proloy B yes that was amazing
same! everyone I was with clapped for about a few minutes. It was so amazing...
Proloy B BIGGEST MOST BADASS VILLAIN scene EVER MADE!!!!
It honestly felt like a nod to the dark night and thats what made it so much better
@@xxGaM3rSkiillzx I got the dark knight imagery in the cop car, but it was just something so different. Him on the bonnet potentially dead was very Arkham City too.
Never in a million years ever thought someone could top Heath Ledger’s joker,, he truly deserves an oscar.
...
I definitely Agree
After I saw Jared Leto's joker, I really that thought was true.
Sarafandii’ • you mean top jack nicholson’s joker
Ledgers joker was great, but this is something deep and haunting
"I've got nothing left to lose. Nothing can hurt me anymore." - Arthur Fleck
His life is nothing but a comedy😁
No. Arthur was dead by then. All that remained was the Joker
*Joker
Edgy
@@nathannael6124 What's so edgy about that ?
It's just a line from the movie
All it takes is ONE. BAD. DAY.
ONE. BAD. LIFE
Punisher??
@@soumy1986 different cinematic universe but he does say that in daredevil so ur not wrong
Punisher reference??
Arthur had a few bad days.
This movie perfectly executed all negative emotions. Brilliant score, direction and acting! Oscars Oscars Oscars!!!
I saw it a week ago, the film is one of the most disturbing ever made and not because physical violence, masterpiece.
Joaquin Shang agreed
It's good as well.
It affect my mental
🔥🔥
that scene where Arthur was blocking the doorway from the small guy was one of the most intense, scary scene I've seen in a while
Knock Knock
Whos there
It's the police, your son has been hit by a drunk driver and is dead
Joker: *WHEEEEEEEEEEZE*
Literally Murray: n0t fUNNY DidNt lAuGH!!
Now that's comedy
I actually see the comedy in this. The son hadn't done anything to die like that, it was all because of something out of his control that killed him. His death made no sense, and we all can, and probably will die like that, without any reason to. And if our death is senseless than so is our life. And if our life makes no sense, than it's a joke.
I laughed really loud in that scene. I was the awkward loner laughing at all the fucked up parts. Majestic movie. Dark and creepy keeps u gripped in the loneliness of his life.
I was literally in tears throughout the movie, as I understood that this isn’t just a movie, its our reality.
Learn It yes really close to our reality. As we all know that people beat up random people with mental disabilities on a daily basis for no good reason.
youre so lame............
Ya.. I cried too
@@Somethingaweful You'd be surprised how often it happens.
@@Somethingaweful the wall street guys beating up Arthur was a metaphor
Batman and Joker were born on the same night, when you think about it.
Joker was born in the fridge
00 00 or were they?
Amazing comment! Love it!
Stolen
@@brucemustdie The Killing Joke was DC's response to Frank Miller's Daredevil
2:58 The Joker is rising
3:09 Arthur's pain is trying to reach out to him
3:38 Arthur is now The Joker
you miss something
2:50 Batman is born
Heath ledger to Joaquin Phoenix:Welcome to club
1:46 "Hey Wayne, you get what you f******g deserve"
@@diegomartinez-mp1gn that fits very well
3:41 Blood Smile
Right after Chernobyl, one of the most depressing and Incredible soundtracks I've heard in my life, Hildur brings us back to that feeling with the Joker.
vine aquí a encontrarte.
you need to watch the leftovers then.
Dunkirk - mole will give get you goosebumps.
a masterpiece movie..
only the first one will stay in my heart..
Arthur killed 3 young men: he’s done with the system
Arthur killed his mother: he’s done with family tragedy
Arthur killed Franklin: he’s done with his career
But he didn’t kill himself
What about Randall?
He isn't done with himself, yet...
@@ciyoduhkriter I'm guessing that randall means hes done with friends.
Joker killed arthur when he put on a smile with his own blood
Arthur was already dead when he killed the 3 young men. After that it was only joker.
Ledger: Agent of Chaos
Phoenix: Victim of Society
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Phoenix started the Chaos that Ledger adopted for his own.
Luke Wilcock we really do live in a society
It's like an inversion. To not be an agent is to lack agency - to be a victim. And society needs order, the inverse of chaos.
Best parts of the film:
1. Joker dancing down the stairs
2. The entire talk show scene
3. Joker in the police car watching the city burn
4. Arthur putting the makeup on and becoming the Joker
5. Everything
@Elijah Schmitt In the real script he had a real relationship with her.
1- Joker's blood smile
This was a bad film only saved by his oscar performance
U could’ve just put 1. Everything
@@mikeoxhard_695 no it wasn't how is the movie bad?
After 3 years....This soundtrack still hit you hard
Facts
After 4 too
It’s timeless
3:41-4:27 is the saddest part of the song...I just watched this film last Tuesday & saw myself in Arthur, I'm crying rn I'm as listening to this song & writing this comment, legit...
*A hero can’t exist without a villain, but a villain can exist without a hero.*
This film is the perfect example of that .
because reality don't have any of that kind who survive:
Albert Roche was an amazing french soldier who died because a car after the war for example...
and history keep the murderer, not the doctor
Ps: im french (thank you beaucoup much)
Although this movie do kinda show that Joker is a hero here.
@@Yan_Xio Not really in my opinion .
Interesting comment.
I really hope DC continue down this R rated road and create masterpieces like joker. Don’t try and replicate what marvel do or if you do leave batman out of it. An R rated Gothamverse is the way forward.
Yeah, we need meaningful interpretation of comic book characters, not forgettable copy pasted heroes’ journey
Scone We need a scarecrow horror flick directed by Robert Egers
I heard a rumour that WB are looking to make a Two-Face movie next. I really hope that it's true.
Jamal Uddin
A political thriller about Harvey Dent would sound great ! They should have Rupert Thorne be the main antagonist for the film.
Amen my brother
I didn’t think anyone could top Zimmers manic and eerie vibe for Ledgers Joker. This is superior in my opinion. Dark, sad, creepy, necessary. Hildur deserves an award for this.
She definitely does but I still prefer Zimmer's theme but that just me
i love zimmers work every time but you are right here ...this is a masterpiece!!!
ShanePain 2636
Zimmer’s is a gleeful, manic kind of crazy.
Hildur’s is a broken, tragic crazy.
They are totally different genre-wise. Zimmer's theme embodies the chaotic, unnerving, completely inhumane nature of the Ledger's Joker, which is why his theme is composed of various ambient sounds and doesn't sound melodic. This Joker is sympathetic in a lot of ways, which is why the music has melancholic orchestral motifs.
Zimmers jokers theme was lazy and crappy. This is way better. & Nothing beats Elfman's batman theme.
joker 1 Insurmountable greatness
joker 2 unbelievably terrible
Joker 2: A movie we act like does not and never will exist
3:35 When he puts that bloody smile in his face... damn, is one of the most beautiful scenes I had ever seen
I felt shivers go right down my spine...and do single every time.
@@quovadismurica1989 _body’s achin’ all the time_
yknow cause i just got plowed by an ambulance
few tears came from my eyes when i saw it (probably someone cutting onions...)
The best scene I've ever seen in my life
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In the end, no one was clapping or cheering in my theater. It was dead silent. we just witnessed the birth of the most infamous sociopath in comic book history. I've never been in a theater that bone-chilling before... & I don't think I'll ever forget. Beautiful movie! Truly a Masterpiece.
In my theatre, a few people clapped but it was a shy clap. I wanted to clap too but I wasn't sure if i even should or not. It was like choosing between a less evil or greater evil. This movie had that type of impact.
WOW
i respect people who don't clap during a movie. its annoying as hell and why i hated going to see the avengers in the theaters. a character simply breathing made them go mad. this aint no live sitcom people you're screaming at a wall!
I left the theatre with sobbing, nonstop
@@MsRafika94 Me too
When he started draw a smile on his face with his own blood.
And then smilling while opening his arm, and the crowd cheering for him (whilst this song playing in the background at 3:54)
GOOSEBUMPS !!!!
Rangga Rizkia it was the best scene for me to me that was the true birth of the Joker
That scene was so amazing. Honestly the only word I can use to describe it is "Powerful"
In that scene when we Saw the raise of Joker and the people of Gotham praise is rise
One of the most powerful scenes ever put on film. He was always weak in the movie. He was always lost. But when he stood up on that car, he was the most powerful man in the world. Even death couldn't stop him at this point. He was a symbol. And at this moment he knew who he was.
got goosebumps when the timestamp jumped to play it thanks
This is painfully beautiful, If Depression had a Sound this is it
As a guy with depression whenever I play this I either laugh or cry sometimes both
I recommend Anakins Betrayal
It's the sound of the slow and steady march to acceptance and eventuality
This is perfect
Really? You're going to ruin this masterpiece for yourself by associating it to depression.
I could even use this for a workout or motivation or just to hear the beautiful melody.
I mean, subjectively, I know that's how music works, but, imo your shortselling the song.
Jack Napier: Tell me something my friend. Ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?
Joker: [Dances in the pale moonlight on top of a wrecked police car, cheered by his audience]
And he made the Ledger smile with blood the very same moment.
That's like... Joker-ception.
Even if it's unintentional, it's still a curious coincidence.
@@StevenHeimlich1996 what's the ledger smile? He did a red pointed smile, reminiscent of how jokers smile looks in the comics.
But was that part even real
@@MaximaMac I believe so, I believe the only fake parts are the girl and when he imagined himself on the talk show.
@@dustinakadustin The smile he made with the blood from his mouth looked similar to what Ledger's Joker had. That chaotic, dirty red line reminded me of it.
one of the most sad stories ever
Yeah I felt so bad for him. No one deserves the kind of life he received.
Same feelings i cried for his situation to turn from normal, inncocent, timid person to monster
@@foxhound-0 and there was turning back for him. I felt happy when he finally stop taking all that shit happened to him, but at the same time I felt sad about him. No change of redemption.
Arthur died and there was only Joker left
Along with Logan
Actually, one of most scary villain stories
Marvel: "Endgame made over $2.79 billion in the box office"
DC: "It's not about money it's about sending a message."
Ironically Joker became the highest grossing R rated movie of all time...
Kudos
Stolen comment nyaay
Its not about originality its about stealing a comment.
@@yezen6889 See, now that's some bulls*t.
Yezen Joaquin and Todd literally said they’re looking forward to the conversations that will be had about the films. Debating what was real, but also seriously talking about mental illness and how we and society treats it.
How to make a villain?
Marvel:make an alien and give everything to him
DC:make a man and take everything from him
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There are versions of the joker where he has superpowers
Joker has different story in comics
That's basically the difference between both, one is bombastic and full and one is somber and emotional, it doesn't go for all movies but remember that the best movies they made aren't for their casual audience and also made by different diractors, marvel has logan and dc has joker
Everyone saying that Phoenix deserves an Oscar for best actor. Totally agree, but c'mon give Hildur Gudnadottir an Oscar too. This soundtrack is amazing.
Edit after the Oscars Ceremony: She did it! She won!
100% agree, the movie is amazing and an instant classic, but the soundtrack made it unforgettable.
she wins 2 times now. critic choice and golden globe.. now she got nomination for oscar too
@@lelouchbritannia8728 and I'm so happy about that
Hildur Guðnadóttir is a Icelandic women
Todd is the first person creat and put them on together
The music describes perfectly the state of mind , feeling, chaotism that Joker has. Brilliant.
Joker :
" I hope my death makes more cents than my life "
*cents
Damn this sentence is str8 up top tier
Deadpool el “diario”
You sure it is not “sense”?
@@kaimiralis joker wrote "cents" in the movie. double meaning.
I've NEVER had a movie disturb me yet make me feel sympathetic towards a villain.
Joaquin's Joker is much better characterized than Ledger's
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anti hero*
@@ashokkumarganesan3927I dont agree with that,heath joker is just other worldly
@@_GrandZeno Villain* Since the Joker as a person still murders dozens of innocent people later on
This movie has one of the most powerful soundtracks I've heard in a film
It won an Oscar for that.
Second comic book film to do so
@@ashokkumarganesan3927 Robert Pattinson, Zöe Kravitz, Joaquin Phoenix and Margot Robbie DC The Batman 2 coming soon
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@@elvingarcia3010 no i want Christian bale as Batman 😢
@@Sarah-jr8qv Robert Pattinson as Bruce Wayne/Batman
"In my whole life, I didn't know if I even really existed."
Uses his own blood to create a smile
"But I do."
Turns around, looks at a crowd of clowns, who look at him like a hero.
"And people are starting to notice."
Perfect
*Joker laughs*
Therapist: "Is something funny?"
Joker: "I just thought of a funny joke."
Therapist: "Do you mind telling it?"
*Joker grins sadly*
Joker: "You wouldn't get it."
Peter Marron plot twist he was talking about civil rights
Alpha Dragon yeah he killed her, remember if he had blood on his socks before then those footprints would've been in the hallway before he came out the room, he didn't get those bloody footprints until he left the therapist, I think it was Todd Phillips way of trying to make sure that the audience realizes he's officially snapped and we should no longer continue to feel bad for him at this point
@alpha dragon Yes he does! When he comes out of the room after seeing the therapist, the way he walks and swings, the bloody footprint... that's where Joker takes over Arthur Fleck, Arthur is lost in Joker's mind now. He begins having fun killing
What's the song that plays after this scene
@@parulkapahi007 That's life by Frank Sinatra... remember: That's life!
This movie helped me through a tough time in my life. I went to the cinema twice, and then I saw "Joker" four or five times. In a way, I could identify with the character, and the brilliant music heightened the emotions. I even bought a poster of Joker on the stairs. For me, it's absolutely one of the best films in the history of cinema. I think that many people loved the character of Joker created by Phoenix, because this Joker became their friend, helped to fight loneliness, depression, misunderstanding. At many points in life we feel that we can't tell anyone about our problems, that no one will understand us. Then he understood us. Joker.
When you give me the Oscar can you introduce me as Joker.
That would be hillarious...
Will the show end with Joaquin shooting whoever's hosting the Oscars after ranting about society?
@@velium365 If they faked this scene Everyone would go crazy xd
I see this comment everywhere.
He’s no longer Joaquin he’s the Joker
Melancholic, bone chilling, depressing and haunting. We have a masterpiece on our hands gentlemen.
It's better sweet,your legit trying to pull for him, and at the end as he's truly joker form with this score,you actually feel for him,and ironically a somebody wanting to be a somebody and known,and in fact he became just that
@@robertgomez4724 exactly, I feel some people can relate to the character and soundtrack. It's his journey into the Joker which nobody knows the origin of but had to have been a sad one. Like they say a clown is always crying on the inside.
Indeed it is friend!
Hans Zimmer is Batman, Hildur Gudnadottir is Joker
thats a great idea, two themes, two composers contrasting each other, a bit expensive on the production side but might work
To me, Danny Elfman has the definitive Batman theme.
_ Skirdybirdy nah
@@_skirdybirdy1788 Yes, Zimmer's Batman theme was nothing special comparing to Elfman's Batman.
What Hanz Zimmer? All his music is like constant repeat, nothing unique, 99% repetitive
I hope people notice the music in movies change the entire dynamic of a film. Absolutely amazing work by Hildur.
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“I hope my death makes more cents than my life."
Sense*
@@Omegaxxxfly watch the movie.
@@Omegaxxxfly yahh watch the movie to understand this Quote
@@Omegaxxxfly it's a play on words Cents and Sense
@@Omegaxxxfly "You wouldn't get it"
"The worst part about having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't." Absolutely tragic...
At home everyone wants you to be normal, at work everyone wants you to be normal even by going out for some groceries you GOTTA be normal. No one cares that you're not just "not normal", but you're just trying your best despite being broken.
Joker left emotional scars in me. It's a masterpiece
You a femoid?
Arthur, Arthur is dead my friend.
You can call me.. Joker. And as you can see, I'm a lot happier.
Endgame was a big budget film that had a bunch of stars, special effects, and big action sequences. You add up all those ingredients, you make a big box office hit. Joker on the other hand didnt need any of that. It only needed a small budget, the right screenplay, the right director, and the right actor to deliver an all time great performance and what was delivered? Not only a box office hit, but a masterpiece that seemingly captured the whole planet.
Dont forget the soundtrack. One of the most crucial pieces in film.
The right IP can't be understated though. Take away the movie's basis on pretty much the most popular fictional villain of all time or at least for this generation in the absence of Vader and the legacy of Heath Ledger..and the movie wouldn't nearly be as popular.
Still a great movie of course. But it's ties to the superhero genre thats at its peak right now, and DC comics & the Joker character too are all undoubtedly huge factors into its high gross.
Nick Kapa for me, that was one of the things that made me disturbed, ether way, I loved this movie
It was a whole other genre. Don't compare drama/horror with a comic film. It's like comparing the Schindler's list with Indiana Jones
@@matusvincze743 your comparison doesnt work
2019's biggest gifts for the world are Chernobyl and Joker. Behind both, there is Hildur Gudnadóttir.
Omg yes!!! I’m so glad she is getting recognition because both were masterpieces!!
TRUTH...!
she is def one of the great!
She is amazing tbh
Door: Knock, Knock
JOKER: Who???
Ocsar: Your old friend
is Ocsar made in China?
you're goddamn right
@The Batman can't believe that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ocsar?!?!
Oooo nice
Anyone else get chills at 3:40? This music fits beautifully with the incredible film.
It fits that scene in particular too. It covers so many emotions that he’s going through in that scene. It’s so beautiful but also intimidating. It’s beautiful but raw, sad, angry, and alone. It’s just such a powerful song for such a powerful scene
Definitely got chills at the theater that's for sure
that violin gets me everytime, straight chills
"What is wrong with you people, why can't you just smile and be happy for once"
This movie is an instant classic. Hauntingly beautiful cinematography, soundtrack, and acting. This is cinema. This is pure art.
33% of people: Ledger Joker is the best!
33% of people: Phoenix Joker is the best!
33% of people: You cannot compare them, they are both epic and unique
100% of people: Leto Joker is a disgrace
So true
They are both the Joker, but their Jokers are quite different.
Jean Pablo Twice well you really cant compare them, ledger didnt get a solo movie, and he didn’t even get to play the joker again since he OD now will he always be one of many best jokers yes but can we say that phoenix is better than ledger no
And nobody is remembering Jack Nicholson’s Joker. You guys only live in the current age. We must not forget our History!
has anyone not realised 1 percent is missing
“Why should I apologise for being a villain if they made me one?” -Joker
Because you let yourself become one - Me
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@@giahuynguyenkim6389 🤣 It so true.
"People quote things other people didn't say"
- Sun Tzu, master of quoting.
@@giahuynguyenkim6389 nonsense. wrong
When you’re a kid, you love the heroes and despise the villains. When you’re an adult, you still love the heroes, but you understand the villains.
When you're a middle aged adult, you become homicidal and don clown make up
@@tyrellwilson9334 lol
hell sometimes you even love the villains
I haven’t seen this comment before 😒
@@haydeng3316 And rarer still, we no longer see the villains as villains.
When Arthur was standing on that car, with the crowd of rioters cheering him on...I felt a little happy for him. He was alive and people noticed him. People were cheering for him. But at the same time, I felt sad for him. Arthur was gone and all that was left was Joker.
This score perfectly captures your feelings
I didn't feel anything except just laughing at the scene. The movie had already proven itself as a great dark comedy to me at that point so I was just laughing Max Cady style in the cinema by that point. No doubt the anarchist thing is likely a callback to the anarchy themes we saw Nolan employ to try ground the previous Batman villains we saw with Joker & Bane..but Todd Phillips does the opposite and uses that anarchy to just play up the insanity of the situation.
I think after what happened to him as a kid, Arthur was permanently damaged and couldn't be fixed. He had a choice to continue living a painful half life as Arthur or transition completely into the Joker.
So true mate.
U beat man u make a man
The music for Joker was incredible, she better get an Oscar nomination at the very least
When theres another company called Marvel out there. It aint gona happen. Like how Aquaman dint get an Award for best VFX. It went to Black Panther
@@AlvinWazHere god that still shocks me lol. Black Panther's VFX did not look good imo.
Endgame doesn't even deserve the nomination for Best Score.
@@azazel_-or5pm Endgame does deserve some form of Oscar recognition but Joker at least needs to get Best Actor and Best Score nominations or else I'm going to raid the Oscars.
AlvinWazHere Black panther didn’t win best vfx. It was first man
It’s such a shame they messed up what could have been a masterpiece. The excitement I had after the first movie turned into disappointment after watching the second one. They really should’ve stopped after the first.
Im shocked no one is commenting on the chilling bass & drums from Batman Begins trilogy..being used at the right scene, the birth of batman.
I noticed that, that was absolutely chilling.
It has the time ticking too from interstellar and Inception. This piece is absolutely fucking amazing!
Yes me too
I noticed toldo creppy that night Change the life of Arthur and Bruce
This film is better than Endgame fight me
I broke my computer try to fight you, now on my phone LoL 😂
Cant compare a generic cgi blockbuster to this film
Way better, Joker is a Masterpiece
Y'know, you can't really compare a CGI-filled colourful superhero action movie to a psychological dark crime thriller. Both movies are equally great in their own ways
@@MASACRE666 joker was trash like other DC movies
Spoilers if you haven’t seen Joker yet
My favorite scene in the movie is the second to last one. He finds out his mouth is bleeding so he creates a smile out of his own blood. I love that because I think it’s the most Joker like scene in the movie. I feel like that is where Arthur died and Joker took complete control over his body. When he killed Murray I think that was Arthur not Joker because on the show he was intending to kill himself but Murray got him mad so ARTHUR (not joker) decided to kill him instead. But at the end he completely embodies the Joker persona.
I’d take it differently, in the first scene of the movie he’s looking himself at the mirror while painting his face, his life has been nothing but sorrow and misery, he’s trying his best at work, at home and in life but nothing matters, people are mean, cruel and awful with him even though his effort to live normally, while looking at his face he forces a smile with his fingers while he cries, he’s suffering every day of his life because his efforts are insignificant in the end.
In the last scene he has liberated himself from the suffering the society has brought in return to every good intention he has, he finally gets some sort of recognition and attention, he bleeds but not because some children decided it was ok to beat him for fun, he bleeds because someone gave a damn about him, so he smiles, nothing can hurt him anymore, and this time, he finally feels understood
Never realized how this music could also be comforting and healing, kinda like someone shares your pain and sadness during hardships and expresses it in sound. Great movie by the way!
"Hey arthur, can u open the door"
"You're the only one who nice to me"
Jesus Christ, I really don’t think I should’ve taken my little sister to go see this movie, she was only 17
@@samuelcontreras2230 bruh I'm 16 and the scene where that fat guy got killed by him using a scissor is so disturbing
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I’m 14 and when I saw that scene, I was thrilled. Finally a movie that doesn’t hold anything back, it’s going all out and really shows the villainy (is that a word?) unlike Venom
@@awesomedude2556 im 26. During that scene i close my eyes. That scene is totally extremely violent.
I love how Arthur let Gary go... after all he was just there to cheer him up and share bottle with him unlike Randall who probably wanted to Steal Arthur's gun back or something... despite all the violence and the "funny" parth where he couldn't leave it's kind of a heartwarming scene.
A Joker who does not need the Batman. Someone who stands on his own and tells his own story. Thank you!
I don't see how that's a good thing. Joker having a Batman is what makes him special.
@@awesomesharkhand1876 It's not a bad thing. Some versions of Joker exist only to challenge batman, they showed up after him and are obsessed with him. This version stands on his own, he became who he was before batman did, and the Joker's actions in this movie directly led to Batman's creation, which is a pretty cool reversal
@@GhostInPajamas There's nothing wrong about a Joker without a Batman. There's nothing wrong with a Batman without the Joker. But I don't really see a Joker without a Batman as a plus. To me, it's neutral leaning on a little on negative.
@@awesomesharkhand1876 Fair enough, I just think the Joker is very special on his own. His dynamic with batman is awesome, but he's half of what makes it awesome
@@GhostInPajamas Cool. I disagree because to me, without Batman, Joker runs close to becoming just another evil clown. Batman completes the Joker. Without the Joker, Batman is just a joke without a punchline.
This film right here, tops everything the MCU has to offer
This right here, it’s the true beauty of cinema... it’s a cinematic masterpiece that we won’t see in a very, very long time
Thanos: I'M THE MOST MEMORABLE COMIC BOOK VILLAIN
Joker: hold my pea shooter
At this point I hate Marvel. Their movies are average but they bully people with their marketing campaigns. Black Panther was an average movie that blackmailed audiences into watching it and claimed to be the first "black movie" which was a total lie. Much more talented directors in the 70s were the ones who took chances with black actors in leads and by the 90s it was completely normalized, yet Marvel pretended we were back in 1950s and used race to try to create a problem and then presented their movie as a solution to that fictional problem. They then again tried it with Captain Marvel to less success but labelled all those who saw through the bullshit as sexist this time. For a very long time they've had their army of fake reviewers give all their generic popcorn flicks positive ratings and movies made by other studios negative reviews. Before Joker was released they got their Rotten Tomato and media buddies to review Joker negatively and even went as far to try to get authorities to try to pull the movie because its "dangerous". The only danger this movie posed was in exposing how crap Marvel movies and their actors all are and the pathetic hit job on Joker prior to its release then it being a masterpiece just highlights how shitty of a studio Marvel is. If anyone ever wants to watch a Marvel movie again out of OCD needing to know what happens let me know and I'll give you a free link to the film so you can watch it while knowing you aren't giving your money to that evil studio. Honestly Marvel at this point "You get what you Fucking Deserve" with all the damage they have done to society its about time people start speaking out.
john smith wow I did not knew that. Honestly I always looked at Marvel fil- sorry I mean movies, as pretty ok and sometimes good. But now, there average and some are bad. Ever noticed how you can’t rewatch a Marvel movie? That’s because the more you think about them, the more flaws you’ll see.
@@sirpranksalot1 fucking THANK YOU. gosh Marvel's arrogance was so bad it made me hate them. they thought they could do no wrong around the time guardians 1 came out. "we don't have to try anymore. we can make a movie with a talking raccoon and people will go see it!" and they always had RDJ to foam in a performance as a safety net. the fact they relied so much on 'jokes' too made it 10 times worse. I saw the Mcu movies as happy meal movies. they're quick and easy to make, but you forget about em just as fast. I have not once re watched a single marvel movie because there's seriously nothing new to catch unlike movies such as MOS or BVS which rely on symbolism. People trying to call ant man a "heist movie" bull its a lame superhero movie that no one cares about, not even the characters or background civilians in the universe care about ant man XD "oh but he meets falcon" who gives a shit about falcon?! for that matter, who cares about bucky post winter soldier or war machine? they're just THERE. they don't DO anything with them!
Marvel does not have any character that would top Joker alone.
"All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day."
- Joker
ruclips.net/video/2gEKoOsi_q0/видео.html
"My death will make more cents than my life."
" when you have a mental illness , people expect you to behave as if you DONT " 🔥🔥 Joker was saying some powerful shit in this movie 💯
@@hecantguardme15 Funny you should say that. The quote mentioned above was originally by Arthur Bremer.
Alec Jones yeah but it was all written down in his journal so they were technically Arthur quotes
JOÃO GUILHERME that’s what Prince thought
"i Hope my death will make more cents than my life"
There fixed it for ya
The Joker doesn't deserve Oscars, because the movie is too good for it to be ridiculed or slandered by some losers critics who don't understand the reality or the hardships of the every day person. This movie will be talked for the next 2 decades because it had the guts to show the reality of the world that we live in and the biggest consequences that it can have when people have had enough with the broken system that tries to silence their suffering and pain or to not give a chance to live a decent life.
Iustin C cannot agree more! 👍
It deserves an Oscar. And it will be a travesty if it doesn't get it.
purplegothicqueen oscars are full of bs now
purplegothicqueen “When I go out for the Oscar, could you introduce me as Joker”
If joker doesnt get any oscars we riot
Maaan she wrote the soundtrack without watching the movie...
I'm loving that movies are understanding the importance of how soundtracks play a role in a film now and vice versa. It sets the tone, pace, and motif of a scene/chapter/story and directors / actors are going off of that feeling a soundtrack produces.
Ikr crazy
And she was scoring Chernobyl at the same time.
@@enjoyerofsilence not trolling at all. Todd Phillips said in an interview that she wrote the music before the movie and they had the bathroom dance piece prior filming.
IS A SHE!?! AMAZING.
-knock knock
-who's there?
-it's your oscar
Lol
That's not funny, rEp ambassador, that's not the kind of humour we do on this platform.
Finally, also Joker has its own theme. Hans Zimmer created the perfect Batman's theme, and Hildur Guðnadóttir created the perfect insane, crazy, fool Joker's theme. Those two notes... oooh...
I love Hans Zimmer, But Elfman did a more iconic theme for Batman.
I agree about Joker's movie soundtrack. If they ever made a sequel it would be great if Hildur Guðnadóttir came back.
PS: If you didn't know, Hildur was also back stage in Chernobyl... such an amazing man !
@@lefilmographejusticier3327 It's a woman LOL
I watched Chernobyl but I didn't know she was the composer :)
@@giada951 And so, such an amazing woman ^^
It’s crazy to think that the “Joker” can be anyone who’s been beaten down over and over to the point of having nothing left....
That's what makes this movie so powerful.
"All it takes is one bad day to drive the sanest man alive to lunacy"
Black Laser despite what critics and the media are saying I think it goes beyond white straight men, beyond race, class, and mental state, this can be anybody who society has failed to empathize with or understand, and the media continues to perpetuate violence and cause unrest amongst the people.
@@jcnom6606 Exactly why the elites did not like this movie, they saw tgis movie might give all people an idea that we are all getting fucked over together, color doesnt matter here.
Which one of you is Mexican joker
What kind of coward dislikes this, someone who hides behind a screen.
@TaliiLars its thomas wayne in this movie dumbass
American reviewers
lmao eeewwwww
Clowns thats who.
@@aleksikulmala6397 lmao, calm dude. Maybe he didn't watch the movie yet
-Awesome character
-Outstanding actor
-Fantastic writing
-Brilliant art direction
-Tremendous tone
-Awesome musical score
-Great cinematography
-Masterpiece of a movie
Your comment is underrated
"When you bring me out, can you introduce me as Joker?"
-Joker
Who else searched this song immediately after watching the movie?
I know I'm not the only one
Yes: Guilty as charged!
I did.
Me too bro
I search it before the movie ended
Belongs to the best 10 movies ive seen in my life! This soundtrack made it more epic but also sad and dramatic
“You’d be amazed the monsters this world can create” -Thomas Wayne
♥️
Flashpoint ....nicee
Avengers Endgame: I have got one nomination already
Joker: I got eleven bro
Why bring Marvel into this?
@@vanblitz7009 bcuz marvel isn't art like dc movies
@Buğrahan Demir *2
@Buğrahan Demir Joker got 2 oscars. One for best actor in a leading role, one for original score.
@Buğrahan Demir np. You're welcomed.
Phoenix: Knock Knock
Kimmel: Who's there?
Phoenix: BANG
*spoilers for those who haven't seen!
XD
Why did you have to spoil it for them, just write knock knock and we will get it
Just saw the movie and I get it JAJAJA and I saw that interview so JAJJAJA
This wasn’t a spoiler until people started commenting spoiler...
Marvel movies are entertainment. Joker is art.
According to Scorsese
The two aren't mutually exclusive lol. It makes you sound very pompous or as though you're flattering your own movie tastes when you sort them into binary categories like that.
But I agree, MCU films are mostly pop corn flicks whereas Joker is the closest we've got so far to a contemplative - dare I say arthouse? - superhero film. Probably not arthouse. But safe to say a character study that balances a popular crowd pleasing IP with some more daring sensibilities we don't often associate with superhero flicks.
Shoutout to Hulk 2003 though for trying and failing to be the first 'muh muh im psychologically deep' superhero character study. also shoutout to Zaddy Snyder for turning Watchmen into sex scene and boof bam punches
Can we just stop mentioning marvel in everything dc related?
Wow what a Comment nice one idol
@@AshaNimo1 your right👍
Hildur Guðnadottir snapped. Disturbingly beautiful, twisted and melancholic. I'm so eager to discover the film.
The film's amazing
@@VideoManSir I have no doubts! Comes out next week in my country.
@@clairemarcel466 Avoid spoilers. This film isn't that violent but will leave you very, very disturbed, shook and moved. It's one of the best films I've ever seen.
@@darshan.88 I sure will do my best to avoid them, thanks! 😊 I didn't expect any less from JOKER and I'm looking forward to the experience, regardless of how "dark" it might be. I'm really curious to see how violence and the human condition are treated in the film.
It'll definitely leave you moved. This take on the Joker as we know him is amazing. There are times I'd even say it rivals the Joker from The Dark Knight.
From 2:59-3:30, it’s sounds like the last wisp of Arthur, fading away, before the blood smile, and his transformation. I never thought I’d come out of a joker movie mourning the simple, awkward, and heartbreaking guy trying “not to feel so bad all the time.” Totally assumed that halfway in he’d shed the awkwardness and triumph. But it really doesn’t happen till the very end, and for me it was far less triumphant than it was sad. Between this movie, the master, and you were never really here, JP is truly the greatest actor of my generation.