S&W Ultimate Carry
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
- Come out for a friendly range session with the S&W Ultimate Carry 432 and 632 revolvers. We compare them to the Kimber K6S, another 6 shot offering. We found the 432-UC and 632-UC revolvers both needed to be sent back to S&W for some work.
Firearms Safety Rules:
1.) Treat all firearms as if they're loaded.
2.) Never point a firearm at something you're not willing to kill/destroy.
3.) Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire.
4.) Be mindful of your target and what is behind it.
Be safe when handling firearms. If you are not competent with firearms, get training from a competent instructor and have fun while learning!
Jesse Canan is a retired police officer from the State of Ohio. He was a semi-automatic handgun, patrol rifle, and shotgun requalification instructor with his former agency. Jesse retired from law enforcement due to medical reasons.
Jesse retired from the National Guard after 20 years of service with deployments to Iraq (Army, 2009) and Kuwait (Air Force, 2016-2017). Jesse was a UH-60 crew chief (mechanic and door gunner) and Security Forces while in the military. 
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Thanks a million for this video, Jesse & Wife! It is hard to find someone making .32 revolver videos; "Shep", "Halfmilesniper" & "Gun Sam" are about the only ones I have seen. I hope to see more!
My oldest .32 is a 1918 S&W .32-20 WCF 6.5" K-frame, which will also shoot .32 S&W long.
My newest .32 is a Uberti Colt-SA 5.5" .32-20 WCF with a 2nd Cylinder for .32 H&R Magnum.
For .32 CC I have a modern Beretta Tomcat .32 ACP 2" 7+1.
To scratch my .38 itch, I have a Pietta Colt-SA 5.5" .357 Magnum that I can also load with .38 Special & .38 Long Colt.
It weighs in at 3 lbs, so recoil is quite tame compared to your 4 snubbies there.
The CC that really hurts to range practice with is my 2004 KelTec P3AT .380 ACP 9+1, weighing in at 7.4 oz empty. Its 3/4" width and loaded weight of only 12.3 oz makes it a virtually invisible, super-comfortable EDC. However, the tradeoffs are virtually non-existent sights, and a felt recoil more painful than my .357 SA, or even my .44 cap & ball Uberti Colt Walker, lol!
All of my .32's are super accurate & reliable, and fun to target shoot with all day long!
I'm in my 60th year, and arthritis is starting to creep in, so I really enjoy my .32's and wheel guns!
Glad you liked the video! I plan on getting my .32 H&R Mag gel tests out. I've got got 8 blocks of Clear Ballistics gel and two molds. Once I get my guns back from S&W, it is on!
I also bought a bunch of reloading equipment. It seems .32 is best enjoyed when reloading is an option.
Love S&W revolvers, I’ve had my 66-2 snub since 1985. Still very accurate!
I just ordered a SW 317. I’m a bit upset with S&W over their lack of QC. I’m not too upset to keep from giving them another shot.
A classic revolver is an American icon…and they work just as well today as they ever did.
it pains me to see such a classic American brand putting out poorly finished revolvers.
Great video! I have been looking into possibly picking one up myself. You gave some solid insight into pros and cons with it.
Awesome, thank you!
Doc... Well done. This is the 2nd time I have watched a video stating timing issues and less than excellent finish on these guns. I had considered Lipseys but I am not buying a tool that has to be "retooled" immediately after I receive it. Thanks for this review brother. I will go with Performance Center until Lipseys and Smith get their act together!
Dr. Canan appreciates that. She was nervous but due to her awesomeness, she does not disappoint!
Inspect before you transfer or rely on warranty…both of mine are back at S&W. My trouble is that there is no real competition in .312 chamberings! I personally think the LCR is ugly and to date refuse to buy one. I do however recommend them to those with less superficial views…
I have been carrying a Smith and Wesson J frame for 35 years model 36 and 37. Have always been a fan of .32 H&R mag so I bought a 632 UC off Gunbroker it showed up in .38 spl but marketed .32 H&R mag! how is that possible the even test fired it! It's like there is no QC anymore.
I sent both my Ultimate Carry revolvers back to S&W yesterday…I love a J-frame’s ease of carry…I want the quality back!!
You run one of those Buffalo Bore rounds and it will make you a believer the .32 is no joke!
I’m going to try and get my gel test videos out sooner than later..
Are you saying that gun was stamped 32 H&R, yet was actually chambered in 38? That's pretty strange.
@@BertieW0oster that's exactly what happened, sent it back for warranty work.
@@HollyrockFarm buffalo bore are loaded to what .32 H&R was always suppose to be loaded at. I've had one since the late 80's Ruger single six but have had to hand load for it.
Nice! I subscribed
Thanks! What next?
Fine vid. Just subbed. Thanks
Thank you!
Great video, very detailed and thorough. I appreciate you and your wife's insight on these firearms, and can tell that you really do know your stuff on the subject. I appreciate your part 2 follow up info as well. Unfortunately I have had many similar quality experiences, which has forced me to take up gunsmithing as a hobby, simply to correct factory issues. As the saying goes, if you want something done right do it yourself, which is why I don't even bother to send them back to the factory any more. Fortunately, I'm at a point now where if a gun arrives 90% correct, I can make up for the other 10%... though that is still not ideal for as much as these things cost.
Anyway, great video. I subscribed today!
Thank you! I’m about to get in the same gunsmithing boat! Reloading equipment is inbound…
I think the little 32 is capable of more than the factory options available…
@@HollyrockFarm Nice! Yes, I reload a lot as well. 38Spl, 44Spl, 44Mag, 45Colt(black powder), and 30-30Win. I don't reload my semi-auto rounds, since I'm too lazy to find where the gun spits them out at, and the brass usually gets chewed up a bit from the action.
I just purchased a M340 M&P. I also have is little brother the M43c. I have 2 confirmed kills with the M43c 1 mole and 1 groundhog. I bought the M43c because .22LR is cheaper than 38/357. I wanted a lite weight pocket pistol when I’m outside doing yard work. My M617 is too big and too heavy. The gunsmith who did the trigger job on the M43c is going to do the trigger job for the M340. I was considering the Lipsey’s 642uc but for the money the M340 and Lipsey’s version are close enough. When you spend that amount of money on a new gun you shouldn’t have to send it back for repairs when it’s new in the box.
I hope your MP340 is great! I love mine!
The 327 and 32 H&R are diamonds in the rough. Pretty good stuff. Send that black on back again so they can make it more accurate like the SS model.
Well...My 432-UC is back at S&W for its second trip for continuing timing issues and end shake of the yoke. The 632-UC is at S&W for spitting lead, finish blemishes, light strikes, and not stabilizing bullets (possibly part of the spitting lead).
I just won another gunbroker auction (for a much more reasonable price) for another 432-UC. I'm going to get another so everyone in the household has a little lightweight .32 snub nose. I'll keep sending them back to S&W until they come back right. Then, I'll get their actions slicked. They're way more gritty feeling than my MP340 with the Performance Center action job.
I'm sold on the .32 S&W Long and .32 H&R Mag. I'm now 3 revolvers and reloading equipment in on it...
Appreciate the follow up on that 442. Just had to send a new 340pd back for similar reasons. How was your turnaround time?
It was about a month the last time…it is frustrating. I just contacted Lipsey’s and suggested they call S&W and wake up the QC department. Still. I just bought another 432-UC…one more to go. One for the whole family!
Man I wish you had sound on this one. It looks interesting.
That was from an iPhone on slow-mo…maybe one day I can get fancy with slow mo sound…about a million subs away from that.
I would like to see you shoot the M340.
I’ll put it on the range review list…
I’ve got a couple of shorts with it…here is one…
J Frame Recoil
ruclips.net/user/shortsbK0VU6blosk?feature=share
My 632 has been flawless. It’s disturbing when you get a new gun from S&W that isn’t
Agreed! I know problems come up, but my 423-UC is back for its second trip in for warranty work. My 632-UC is in for its first. If S&W does not have a problem, what are the odds I get two that are not right?
I’m still not ready to break up with them. I just ordered a S&W 317. I did however buy the extra warranty that I would not normally buy on a S&W.
J frames akimbo is the only way to run J frames. Defeats all those capacity arguments you hear from naysayers.
I’ll have to practice to get better hits!
Lipsey’s botched those UC J-frames. Out of the box they failed. Your M340 is proven reliable. The Lipsey’s UC j-frames have the mag wheels and curb feelers the bling bling is not good if the rest of the doesn’t function. I would buy another M340. The U-notch rear site and the big dot front site no the M340 gives quick target acquisition.
I shot my MP340 today. ruclips.net/video/VBArDtZIntQ/видео.html
The trigger on my MP340 with its Performance Center action job is much better than the stock UC guns. I also like the sight setup on my MP340 better than the UC sights. Really, the thing that got me was the .32 H&R Mag chambering in a S&W that was not crazy expensive because they were discontinued.
My MP340 is awesome.
I thought those Lipsey’s UC guns would have better quality control. Obviously not. If I were you would not buy a third one. I love the sites on those UC guns. I have. M43c the little brother to your M340. The craftsmanship sucks for what I paid for it. It has the same staking marks in the same areas as yours UC. S&W has had issues with not having the barrels properly lined up. That might be the problem with your guns shooting right. I have a M60-2 it has been great. I would like a M340 I would only shoot 38spl out of it. Having the M60 I don’t need the M340. But that M340 just and those sites are bad @$$. With the price of 38spl and 357mag around the price of 5.56. The are expensive to shoot.
I now have 4 of them…
Smith & Wesson shipping revolvers with burrs and timing issues!!! What's next? And if Taurus (yeccch!!) can make a J frame size revolver that takes six rounds of .327 Federal, why can't Smith & Wesson? Well, I guess what's next is that all my revolvers are Smith & Wessons, except for one Taurus 327CH!! It cost me less than half what your UC did, and it shoots everything to point of aim. Granted that Taurus revolvers are pretty much pre-broken at the factory, but considering the cost difference and the lack of innovation at S&W in recent years, I can invest an awful lot of time in making a Taurus reliable and still be ahead of the game. This particular Taurus just needed a couple of springs: the ones that shipped were so heavy, the revolver was useless! (You know, useless, just like the thousand dollar revolver S&W sent you!!!)
The Taurus 327 is a little gem. The S&W 632UC and 432UC are a few levels up on the Taurus. Both are great! And can't go wrong with either..
@@crushthequarter6863 Ah, but they did go wrong for you. Most definitely. That's the rub. S&Ws are supposed to be just better, but they are rapidly descending to "meh" revolvers at high prices!!
My 432-UC is back at S&W for its second trip for continuing timing issues and end shake of the yoke. The 632-UC is back at S&W for spitting lead, finish blemishes, light strikes, and not stabilizing bullets (possibly part of the spitting lead).
I just won another gunbroker auction (for a much more reasonable price) for another 432-UC. I'm going to get another so everyone in the household has a little lightweight .32 snub nose. I'll keep sending them back to S&W until they come back right. Then, I'll get their actions slicked.
It is a lot to do just because, for me, the Ruger LCR is just too ugly.
If Taurus offered a light weight bobbed hammer option in .327 Fed Mag, I'd snatch one up. Then again, for the amount of headache with the current S&W QC department, having a Taurus modified to my preferences may be cheaper and less headache.
I contacted Lipsey's and suggested they contact S&W and wake up their QC department. I asked what the chances were that I bought two revolvers from the wild and both have problems...
I just bought a third revolver, another 432-UC. I'll report its quality to Lipsey's when I get it in early July.
@@HollyrockFarm Taurus does offer exactly what you describe above, but with a 3" barrel, which to my mind is preferable... the 327CH TORO. That extra inch makes all the difference and an extra inch of barrel in a holster or waistband makes no difference in concealability at all, except for pocket carry. They are hard to find because they are still quite new and I suspect that Taurus didn't make all that many because they are concerned about a limited market, but there are two or three available right now on GB. (I can't believe I am recommending a Taurus, but in this case, it seems better than the alternative.) I am not quite ready to trust my 327 Taurus, but remain hopeful. If you do happen to buy one, tighten the sideplate screws immediately, BEFORE shooting. I was giving the Taurus a workout to get it to the point of possible trustworthiness when the cylinder retention screw fell out and I didn't notice. Based on internet reports, this happens a LOT with Taurus, so much so that they are perpetually out of stock for these screws. I have a couple of S&W J-frame screws on the way. They fit, but may protrude slightly.
I thought those Lipsey’s UC guns would have better quality control. Obviously not. If I were you would not buy a third one. I love the sites on those UC guns. I have. M43c the little brother to your M340. The craftsmanship sucks for what I paid for it. It has the same staking marks in the same areas as yours UC. S&W has had issues with not having the barrels properly lined up. That might be the problem with your guns shooting right. I have a M60-2 it has been great. I would like a M340 I would only shoot 38spl out of it. Having the M60 I don’t need the M340. But that M340 just and those sites are bad @$$. With the price of 38spl and 357mag around the price of 5.56. The are expensive to shoot.
I bought a bunch of reloading equipment to get the costs down. I figure with reduced powder and lead consumption per cartridge, I might be able to shoot for less than .38/.357.