I love my M&Ps but I'll tell you, I think the Beretta is another great option. Like you, the look of the Beretta is starting to grow in me. I have always liked the look of the M&P series. I have noticed too that currently, the price of the Beretta pistols are very competitive. It's a difficult decision but IMHO you can't go wrong with either gun. Great video BTW.
Verdade amigo falo aqui do Brazil, e aqui a restrição ao mundo das armas com o novo governo é gigante, mas ao longo de 23 anos como CAC consegui montar uma coleção de pistolas Smith Wesson MP 9 2.0 4.25 Full LE, MP 380 shield EZ, MP 22 compact, sou fã da Smith Wesson, tenho tambem uma Arex delta 9mm e uma Springfield Hellcat OSp 9mm , mas essa nova Beretta APX A1 está me chamando atenção pois pelo mundo inteiro a relatos interessantes e falam muito bem dessa arma, força e honra sempre 👍👍🏼👏🤠🇧🇷
Beretta as of November 2019 just dropped the price on the APX to $329...!! This might make the decision easier for some - that is a lot of gun for the money!!
@eric692003 Because they didn't sell any! The only sold The tactical model with the red dot, I know I definitely wouldn't buy one that has a safety plunger popping out of the top of the slide
This Beretta APX line is fabulous... Good sites, full steel rails, good trigger, great ergonomics, good texture, sits low in the hand, accurate, handles recoil well, good ft and finish, reliable, fun too shot, and 350.00 to 400.00 what's not to like. Take down is not that hard people, serrations are good.... It's a very good polymer wonder. Especially the APX centurion. Great size for everything.. you can buy the compact and have two pistols for 40.00 too 50.00 $$$$.
Glad I got my apx centurion when I did , they are tough to find here in AZ . I have owned the sig p320 , the m&p 2.0 and now the apx , the apx and Glock 45 along with sig p365 are my go to guns .
What a fantastic review! Very well spoken, great camera angles, no machismo!!! I own an M&P 2.0 and love it. Saving money for the APX. I also come from Italy so I'm biased.
Love both of these guns! I myself have s Smith & wesson m&p shield 9mm 2.0 compact pistol. Waiting for my Apx to arrive at the dealer for pick up. Couldn't choose between the 2 so I got both! And Beretta is having a nice promotional sale. The Beretta apx came with 3 mags all 17 in the mag. For the promotional sale u sign a rebate form on Beretta site and you'll get an additional 3 magazines with a holster all for free when you purchase the Beretta apx
I have many rounds through my m&p 2.0 compact. I love it. This is the best feeling--in--hand semi auto I've ever owned. Such a good shooter from day one with no complaints on the trigger.
Before watching the complete video I'm going to guess that the apx wins. I know I have kept my apx about a lot of other fine firearms. To me the apx is top of the line. Thanks for the video
I got JAXF421 absolutely love it... Got the 18+1 Mags and Ordered Green Frame... Feels great in the hands and taking it apart is much easier then some of these videos I have seen online... Also wish APX had a stronger community for accessories cause alot of them are ??? and i'm finding stuff for other guns works well with APX...
In a world of generic everything, having a visual stand out feature is not a bad thing. It's what drew me to the APX in the first place, and I'm glad it did. I have the APX Compact (13+1) and it's an extremely good firearm. Runs smoother than a sewing machine, and it's a very flat shooting gun, even with the 3.7" barrel it falls back into position naturally and with no effort. The recoil mitigation is just awesome for a smaller weapon and I've heard it described as a 'soft shooter', well so it is. I'm very pleased with it, and props to Beretta for another win, IMO.
KSGunGuy.... Thanks for a cool comparison video. To me it looks like both shot groups were equal in pattern. After looking at Justin Opinions and Sootch00's reviews, I decided to order the Beretta APX Centurion in 40 S&W. Your video clinched my decision process and validated that decision. One of the biggest decision points is the modularity of the Beretta. Some other decision points is the price tag as well as overall features. My other choices were the M&P Shield 40 and the Springfield Armory XD 40. Of those 2 my likely choice would have been the Springfield, even though from the price point was higher. Based on price point and features between the M&O Shield and Beretta, the Beretta in my opinion was the BEST choice. Lastly, in case I have not commented you before, I really appreciate your reviews. There are many videos out there , however yours are at the very top of my list to watch. Thanks for all your time in creating very informative fact based energy packed videos.
Am I crazy? I keep hearing people talk about the firing pin block like they've never seen it before. I don't think I've ever heard of anybody having a problem with any of the 92 or Px4 series, I don't know why it would be different with the APX.
Well to be fair both the 92 and Px4 are completely different firing mechanisms then the APX so you really are just counting on the brand to do it right. That being said I think beretta is a pretty huge step up above most manufacturers if not just for the barrel alone 😂. Fun fact when the pilgrims came to America they carried beretta made barrels.
Man, what a great time for us gun enthusiast. The conceal carry handgun market has so many offerings. M&P, Glock, APX, P10c, P320, VP, PPQ hell even the Ruger SR series are super nice and reliable guns. I watch these VS videos fore entertainment but I love it when I see people choosing something like the APX or P10c over my beloved M&P or Glock!
I completely agree A! We certainly do live in good gun choice days. Thank you for enjoying the vids! I love doing them. As for the APX, it really is a fun shooter and unique to boot! Thank you and cheers
The apx looks like a solid handgun, i do like the fact that you can exchange the frames to different colors maybe it will end up being like the p320 where you go from full size to compact or carry . Either way the m&p and beretta and both really good picks .thanks for a fine review brother i look forward to the next.
Thank you very much Sergio! Agreed, the APX really is a good gun. Solid and fun to shoot. As for the M&P, I prefer the compact but I know many who love the full size. Cheers brother!
@Seth Rising yeah the gauntlet is very extreme, my next gun may be an APX compact after I get glock 41 ....but apx compact can jump the line it's a close decision for me.
Awesome review as usual KS, your videos are a HUGE help in deciding what my $$$ will be put towards next 😉 Thank you for all the time & effort you put into your videos!!
I enjoyed the review, great job. I bought both but ended up keeping the S&W. The takedown lever on the APX would send an impulse into my thumb eveny time the round would fire. While I like being able to switch out lowers on the APX, loved its ergos, the shock to my thumb was distracting. The S&W on the other hand also has greats ergos and looks better, fits holsters I already had and shoots great so it was a keeper. I also picked the S&W over the gen 4 G19, the XD mod 2, and the Canik TP9SF. All great pistols, but if I could only have one it would be the S&W.
Just bought my APC a couple of days ago and we're taking it out to the range for the first time today. This is the first firearm I've ever owned so I'm definitely excited!
I have had the M&P 2.0 in 9mm and 40 S&W . Their accuracy is fine. I just do not like the aggressive grip texture. I put a bicycle inner tube on both of mine. I have just recently picked up a Berretta APX 9mm and I like ergonomics and the grip texture is where I want it on the front and back. I like that you can change out the frame for 50.00 and get a gray, green, or Flat Dark earth color. Magazine availability looks ok right now. The slide grooves are well thought out as well on the Beretta.
Talon makes a rubberized grip tape so you don’t have to use bicycle inner tube. I have one on a Springfield XD and it’s a nice grip doesn’t make it too much bigger goes on tight using a blow dryer.
I like the M&P 2.0 so much that I got the 3.6" Compact, the 4.25" and the 5.0". All three have TruGlo night sights installed and the 4.25" and 5.0" have the APEX flat trigger. Any of the three will cut that inch hole through the target at 7 yards with one magazine of ammo. The APEX trigger takes these guns to a new level.
I will agree i love my apx as well. I have the full fde combo. I have had glocks and m&p and as well as beretta. And the beretta apx won me over. Thank-you for the video great job KSGunGuy
That tab is also part of the trigger safety mechanism in the Beretta 92 but instead of a cylinder looking retractable protrusion it is rectangular. It is nothing more than a firing pin safety blocker released by the trigger.
Thank you for checking in Luke! Both are great but for whatever reason... the Beretta has just grown on me. That said, the M&P has come a long way and the compact has become a favorite of mine. Thank you and cheers brother!
Regarding the magazines, Beretta offers a factory APX 21 round capacity while M&P has a nice aftermarket Taran Tactical extension that gives you 25 round capacity. The grit has lessened in my M&P trigger take up over time. I chose the M&P over the APX simply due to side by side ergos at the counter and a few of the quirks the APX had such as the take down lever and back strap and chassis removal. Also, nearly a $100 price difference sure helped my decision. I might end up with an APX one day anyway. ha ha...Nice video, very fair comparison.
Thank you very much Tom! I agree, they are both great guns but the APX has some quirks. It's taken a while to be on board with both, but they definitely do their job. Great to know about the 21 round mag for the APX! Thank you again and cheers
Great review. I have a Brazilian LE surplus (NIB) with all the doodads on order from AIM surplus for $299 plus plus. I am looking forward to getting it. I didn't need another service 9mm but well... you know I have the sickness and this just was too good of a deal to pass up. Thanks!
Do you like the combat size? I currently love my big 92FS, but am thinking of getting a striker fired. I’m a small woman, and although I shoot the 92 really well, it’s really kinda big for me, hand-wise.
I had both. But beretta took care of my weak mag spring by shipped me a brand new mag. Awesome. M&p sent my gun back to see the coating. Ended up inspect and checking everything on the gun. Shipped me extra mag for m&p 2.0, mag for shield, accessories for my Thompson riffles, etc. both company are amazing. But apx is on sale now. Ez pick apx. Can’t go wrong with it.
Could that firing pin block be carefully cut off and the hole plugged ? Would it still function properly? APX wins in my book, it is hands down the best looking striker fired handgun ever made. Have to have one in FDE.
It's the APX for me as well; the aggressive slide takes a bit of time to appreciate. I would say the APX has been more accurate for me since you get more surface due to the extended beaver tail in the back meaning you will shoot flatter.
I shot 4 different guns. 100 rounds a piece. I was more comfortable with the apx as well as accurate. It was also my deciding point on what brand to buy. It is a high quality gun.
You didn't really take your time with first 100 shots either for either gun. But you did awesome on those targets. I have both and I chose both of them. If I could have one the Beretta takes the cake. Awesome video man and sorry for sounding like a troll. For be Beretta is the better option. Have a blessed one
I'm probably a bit biased as I own one, but as you've shown, the APX has better slide serrations for racking, a better out-of-the box trigger AND it feeds consistently! I was kinda surprised you didn't mention that issue with the S&W in your final comments. Overall, good review and commentary.
couldn't miss w apx 9mm, so balanced; struggled w Glock 48, violent action on smaller frame...proud to add S&W 2.0 45, noticed it punched his hands back much more than Beretta; Glock 48 does that too🎸 love Beretta best, grateful for the rest✌
Apx all the way. Bought the gray frame and changed out the striker spring and guide rod and spring to 20lb. Shoots fantastic. Trigger is even better and with the guide rod with spring even tighter groups.
Well I don't own an APX yet, and I just picked up my 2.0 compact yesterday. I love the feel of the new M&P grip, I do prefer the sandpaper feel for sure. I think both of these are good pistols and I look forward to getting an APX some day. I think this is another one of those can't lose scenario's. Good video as always!
Thank you Fu! The Smith compact has really impressed me. If I can get an Apex, I think it will be among the top 4 in the collection. Not bad for a gun I thought I wouldn’t like! Cheers brother
Never shot Beretta but I do own the M&P 2. I love the gun and I new I'd change the trigger paddle when I bought the gun. Availability of after market parts and accessories is why I went with the Smith.
I got the 40cal apx love it i got mine at a gander mountain that was going out of business they had some serious sales going on i got mine only paid $198 for it even got a $950 ar15 for under $500. I seen peaple buying like 5 at a time I feel lucky to have even gotten one definitely couldn't pass it up for that price
Thoughts on the beretta PX4 storm vs the M&P 2.0? I am trying to decide on my first handgun. I am leaning towards the PX4 as it shares mags with my CX4 storm carbine.
Personally, I prefer the M&P. It’s a tack driver. The mag compatibility is pretty nice however and the PX4 definitely impressed me. Thank you and cheers!
I have a sccy 9mm for my CCW its small easy to hide and not an issue to drive with. My APX 9mm is harder to hide and a pain in the azz to drive with an in-waist holster. I will go back and forth between either gun but I think the APX has it beat but you buy what you can afford to use at the time. Don't get me wrong the sccy has been a great gun for me for over 7 years and I will still use it for CCW
This was a great review. While I am the biggest fan of my 92FS I will probably go with S&W on this one and that is what makes this review so fantastic...no bias at all including strengths and weaknesses of both. Well done. I would have liked to have more info on recoil. Any feedback from others on the difference? Thanks!
So funny when I bought my first gun both of these were on sale and I had to choose between them. I went S&W. Even the guy at the gun store said "good choice". Lol
Has anyone tried racking a wet slide. I know we all talk about slide serrations but how do they work when they have been in water and wet. Do they still grip the same?
One thing to note on the grip texture of the m2.0...U cannot add texture without adding cash but u can take the texture down for free. Grip texture is a very popular mod with handguns, whether it be grip tape or a custom stipple job. All u need to do is get some fine sandpaper and sand the texture down to your liking. This is what I did with my. 45 shield and m2.0c to make them carry friendly. I couldn't be happier with the texture.
Funny that the APX won on looks but the trigger and the fail to feed on the S&W was not a factor in his deceison. I will take the Beretta, $380 at Bass Pro Shop
which one would you say has the softer felt recoil, for smaller folks like my 5' wife with smaller hands ? from video and others I've seen, it looks like the apex when slide goes forward, has a bit of a bounce before settling for the follow up shot. Is this seem to be the case ? compared to a cz sp10 C or F ? compared to G19 ? which one has the smallest grip ?
Give the Smith & Wesson M&P 380 Shield EZ a look. It's like shooting .22lr. And I dare say the trigger break is more crisp than my M&P 2.0 9mm. You hit the wall, then boom.
I have both, but the M&P in 5" FDE. I was drawn to the M&P for it's looks, especially in the all FDE color. I immediately installed the TFX Pro sights (which are awesome, but front orange dot needs to be bigger like Trijicon HD). I love the grip texture, bit for some reason, I just like to grab the APX. The grip shape and texture feels very natural to me. It feels very similar to my PPQ. Can't really explain it, but it feels more balanced to me. Neither trigger feels quality like the PPQ, but I can live with both. Now if Beretta would come out with a compact chassis in FDE, now you're talking. I'm also drawn to out of the ordinary. APX - Ribbed for pleasure.
Excellent thoughts John! The FDE M&P looks awesome but I agree, the APX definitely draws you in. I agree, a more compact version would be awesome. Perhaps next year? Thank you and cheers brother!
I've been watching a lot of your videos & just today I sub'd! I always hit the "like" because it's well deserved. Thank you for another good video but since you posted this video there's been the S&W M&P 2,O Compact & the BERETTA APX compact & since I have a permit to carry I'd like to see a video of the compact versions.Being that the APX Compact is fairly new there are no videos on RUclips about it.
Personally from a combat sidearm aspect,.. the Beretta is a really Sweet pistol,.. I like it and the take down in my opinion is like a striker fired M9 . same principle with the lever and button,... If only one though probably the S&W since it has more aftermarket stuff right now,... but the Beretta is on track to be a great gun especially if they do a gen 2. ...
Well said Eric! I agree there’s potential with this platform and hopefully Beretta will make some good updates on the next model. Agreed about the aftermarket support for the Smith. Thank you and cheers brother!
The Beretta 92 and PX4 have the same firing pin block that pops up. I’m guessing it won’t be an issue on the APX because it hasn’t been an issue on either of those guns.
It's all about the ergonomics and personal preference the Smith & Wesson is proven accurate and reliable however with Berettas new price point it's about $150 cheaper than the Smith ,I prefer the Smith but at $339 I would probably take the Beretta if I could only afford one they're both excellent guns
Great Video!!! However, I don't even think it's close. The APX is a much better gun in my opinion. Softer shooting, better combat pistol, better accuracy, better craftsmanship. I think the trigger is light years ahead of the Smith. But I am not a fan of the hinge trigger with the exception of the FNS or the 509. The APX is vastly underrated and I can't wait for the Compact and the sub-compact models to come out, along with the 45.
I agree Rota. The APX has really impressed me and you’re right, the trigger is very good. Much better than the M&P. If they come out with a compact, I think it would be a real contender! Thank you and cheers as always brother
I've owned both....but I prefer the M&P 4.0" barrel version of the compact. The extra .4 gives you a longer sight radius. If you're going with a 3.6 ish inch barrel better to look at the Sig P365 in my opinion. I noticed that below 4" I see a slight dip in accuracy....and of course you also lose some ballistics. I typically buy and try most of the new mainstream popular guns that come out I compare and then just sell the ones I don't want to keep. I sold my APX Centurion...nothing wrong with it. I just prefer the ergonomics, lighter weight, better grip texture, and slimmer slide of the M&P.
This was a nice review. Good video style, low-ego and good camera angles and lighting. I've had 3 of the M2.0s (45 fullsize, 9mm compact, and shield) for about a year and I just ordered the 5" M2.0 Pro Series as well as the APX Fullsize due to the recent price drop. The M2.0s are exceptional guns, but my wonderful experiences with the Beretta 92 and PX4 lines give me high hopes for the APX too, especially given the $328 including shipping (!!!) that I paid for the APX. There's nothing in that price bracket even close to Beretta quality. Should be a nice time. Anyway, I'm rambling, nice review on two good guns.
I bought the Centurion version of the APX shipped for around that price recently as well! I don't really shoot much or care much about guns until recently and I've been carrying a steel frame IMI Jericho 941R for almost a decade. A promotion at work requires me to stand and walk around all day instead of sitting behind a computer for most of it. After looking up newer guns that would be a better fit for carrying, I saw the price drop on the APX line and had to jump on the deal. I tested out a few different guns at the range and I think the APX is a better deal compared to other comparable guns at that price. I was actually about to purchase a M&P 2.0 compact until I saw that the APX was almost $100 cheaper. I know sites like budsgunhop were running deals for many guns from the APX line at similar prices. Still not as cheap as the full size $299 APX my father got after the $100 summer rebate from Beretta, but I think that's the closest we're going to get without having to do a rebate. I can't wait to take my APX to the range.
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i just got my APX and for me it's one of the most consistent hand guns I've shot. buying one for my parents for a carry piece
apx is a beast love mine too gettin another
I love my M&Ps but I'll tell you, I think the Beretta is another great option. Like you, the look of the Beretta is starting to grow in me. I have always liked the look of the M&P series. I have noticed too that currently, the price of the Beretta pistols are very competitive. It's a difficult decision but IMHO you can't go wrong with either gun. Great video BTW.
Get a APX I am the biggest S&W fan but the APX is sooo nice
Verdade amigo falo aqui do Brazil, e aqui a restrição ao mundo das armas com o novo governo é gigante, mas ao longo de 23 anos como CAC consegui montar uma coleção de pistolas Smith Wesson MP 9 2.0 4.25 Full LE, MP 380 shield EZ, MP 22 compact, sou fã da Smith Wesson, tenho tambem uma Arex delta 9mm e uma Springfield Hellcat OSp 9mm , mas essa nova Beretta APX A1 está me chamando atenção pois pelo mundo inteiro a relatos interessantes e falam muito bem dessa arma, força e honra sempre 👍👍🏼👏🤠🇧🇷
Beretta as of November 2019 just dropped the price on the APX to $329...!! This might make the decision easier for some - that is a lot of gun for the money!!
Hell yea. I saw that recently. It's hard to beat that price. I think I'll be getting the centurion size.
New Full Size Owner
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RDO, theres no plunger that pops out of the top of the slide!
May be on a couple other models as well?
@eric692003 Because they didn't sell any! The only sold The tactical model with the red dot, I know I definitely wouldn't buy one that has a safety plunger popping out of the top of the slide
This Beretta APX line is fabulous... Good sites, full steel rails, good trigger, great ergonomics, good texture, sits low in the hand, accurate, handles recoil well, good ft and finish, reliable, fun too shot, and 350.00 to 400.00 what's not to like. Take down is not that hard people, serrations are good.... It's a very good polymer wonder. Especially the APX centurion. Great size for everything.. you can buy the compact and have two pistols for 40.00 too 50.00 $$$$.
Before I watch the vid my vote goes to the Beretta.. All day long.
I've been deep diving into apx information and I think I'm finally sold on it. Thanks for the great video
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
I love Berettas. I just picked up a new APX Centurion LE package with three 15 rnd mags for $399 + tax. Amazing pistol for the price.
Glad I got my apx centurion when I did , they are tough to find here in AZ . I have owned the sig p320 , the m&p 2.0 and now the apx , the apx and Glock 45 along with sig p365 are my go to guns .
I have the APX Centurion and I love it!!!! The price was great but the performance was awesome!!!!
What a fantastic review! Very well spoken, great camera angles, no machismo!!! I own an M&P 2.0 and love it. Saving money for the APX. I also come from Italy so I'm biased.
Thank you very much! That's very nice of you. Cheers Stefano!
Ciao Stefano, io ho il dubbio su quale scegliere! Se al momento le avessi entrambe, potresti darmi qualche dritta? Grazie
@@jppindahauz compri la Beretta!
Love both of these guns! I myself have s Smith & wesson m&p shield 9mm 2.0 compact pistol. Waiting for my Apx to arrive at the dealer for pick up. Couldn't choose between the 2 so I got both! And Beretta is having a nice promotional sale. The Beretta apx came with 3 mags all 17 in the mag. For the promotional sale u sign a rebate form on Beretta site and you'll get an additional 3 magazines with a holster all for free when you purchase the Beretta apx
That’s awesome Jermaine! Sounds like you’re building a great collection and the deal on the APX is a steal! Thank you and cheers
“Lights, lasers, grenade launchers”. 😂😂😂
I have many rounds through my m&p 2.0 compact. I love it. This is the best feeling--in--hand semi auto I've ever owned.
Such a good shooter from day one with no complaints on the trigger.
Awesome EB! It’s definitely a favorite of mine. Thank you and cheers!
I have a grenade launcher on my apx compact
@@LARRYCAL I installed an ICBM launcher on mine.
Before watching the complete video I'm going to guess that the apx wins. I know I have kept my apx about a lot of other fine firearms. To me the apx is top of the line. Thanks for the video
I love my APX!!
Awesome! Thank you and cheers!
Just got 1🤣😎😂
I got JAXF421 absolutely love it... Got the 18+1 Mags and Ordered Green Frame... Feels great in the hands and taking it apart is much easier then some of these videos I have seen online... Also wish APX had a stronger community for accessories cause alot of them are ??? and i'm finding stuff for other guns works well with APX...
Got one on the way but mine is the APX Centurion
“Has the rail for lights, lasers, and grenade launchers” lmao I’d love to see that
I just bought my first gun. It was the APX just waiting for it to be delivered. I’m hoping I enjoy the gun like everyone else says I will.
TheRealSUPERMAN I too just bought the APX Centurion and just got email tonight that mine is on the way can’t wait to shoot it.
My first gun was the APX compact...love it!
And how's it been?
I have the APX and it is an amazing gun!
I agree! Thank you and cheers!
In a world of generic everything, having a visual stand out feature is not a bad thing. It's what drew me to the APX in the first place, and I'm glad it did. I have the APX Compact (13+1) and it's an extremely good firearm. Runs smoother than a sewing machine, and it's a very flat shooting gun, even with the 3.7" barrel it falls back into position naturally and with no effort. The recoil mitigation is just awesome for a smaller weapon and I've heard it described as a 'soft shooter', well so it is. I'm very pleased with it, and props to Beretta for another win, IMO.
I have the same APX compact. Very reliable.
Love both companies but the M&P of the two is my preference.
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
Really Nice Review Brother! APX is kinda growing on me, But I would want to shoot it first! Carry On
Thank you Big J! It’s a ton of fun for a full size. Cheers brother!
Great review KS! Guess I'm gonna have to put my hands on an APX. Everyone seems to really like them. Thanks Brother 🤘🇺🇸
Thank you 7UP! I highly recommend trying one out, brother. Cheers!
Two great budget guns from two reliable manufacturers
KSGunGuy.... Thanks for a cool comparison video. To me it looks like both shot groups were equal in pattern. After looking at Justin Opinions and Sootch00's reviews, I decided to order the Beretta APX Centurion in 40 S&W. Your video clinched my decision process and validated that decision. One of the biggest decision points is the modularity of the Beretta. Some other decision points is the price tag as well as overall features. My other choices were the M&P Shield 40 and the Springfield Armory XD 40. Of those 2 my likely choice would have been the Springfield, even though from the price point was higher. Based on price point and features between the M&O Shield and Beretta, the Beretta in my opinion was the BEST choice. Lastly, in case I have not commented you before, I really appreciate your reviews. There are many videos out there , however yours are at the very top of my list to watch. Thanks for all your time in creating very informative fact based energy packed videos.
Am I crazy? I keep hearing people talk about the firing pin block like they've never seen it before. I don't think I've ever heard of anybody having a problem with any of the 92 or Px4 series, I don't know why it would be different with the APX.
Never had a problem with it at all on my px4
Well to be fair both the 92 and Px4 are completely different firing mechanisms then the APX so you really are just counting on the brand to do it right. That being said I think beretta is a pretty huge step up above most manufacturers if not just for the barrel alone 😂. Fun fact when the pilgrims came to America they carried beretta made barrels.
Man, what a great time for us gun enthusiast. The conceal carry handgun market has so many offerings. M&P, Glock, APX, P10c, P320, VP, PPQ hell even the Ruger SR series are super nice and reliable guns. I watch these VS videos fore entertainment but I love it when I see people choosing something like the APX or P10c over my beloved M&P or Glock!
I completely agree A! We certainly do live in good gun choice days. Thank you for enjoying the vids! I love doing them. As for the APX, it really is a fun shooter and unique to boot! Thank you and cheers
An informative review and I was debating between the two models. My APX should be here in a few days.
Thank you very much! Congrats on the APX. Cheers!
The apx looks like a solid handgun, i do like the fact that you can exchange the frames to different colors maybe it will end up being like the p320 where you go from full size to compact or carry . Either way the m&p and beretta and both really good picks .thanks for a fine review brother i look forward to the next.
Thank you very much Sergio! Agreed, the APX really is a good gun. Solid and fun to shoot. As for the M&P, I prefer the compact but I know many who love the full size. Cheers brother!
I have smith and Wesson and I love this gun, where is the smith fans, come on guys, lest go M&P !!!
yup my M&P 2.0 compact all day never had a problem
More and more I'm digging the APX the compact is even more appealing
@Seth Rising yeah the gauntlet is very extreme, my next gun may be an APX compact after I get glock 41 ....but apx compact can jump the line it's a close decision for me.
I just got the centurion (15 round version) great choice
@@Manatee360Phototography they are hard to find now and when you do 9mm are marked up steep....SMH
Awesome review as usual KS, your videos are a HUGE help in deciding what my $$$ will be put towards next 😉 Thank you for all the time & effort you put into your videos!!
My pleasure and thank you for the awesome comments! Cheers as always!
I enjoyed the review, great job. I bought both but ended up keeping the S&W. The takedown lever on the APX would send an impulse into my thumb eveny time the round would fire. While I like being able to switch out lowers on the APX, loved its ergos, the shock to my thumb was distracting. The S&W on the other hand also has greats ergos and looks better, fits holsters I already had and shoots great so it was a keeper. I also picked the S&W over the gen 4 G19, the XD mod 2, and the Canik TP9SF. All great pistols, but if I could only have one it would be the S&W.
Thank you very much! Both are indeed great but I totally understand where you are coming from. Today, I would opt for the Smith as well. Cheers!
Just bought my APC a couple of days ago and we're taking it out to the range for the first time today. This is the first firearm I've ever owned so I'm definitely excited!
I have had the M&P 2.0 in 9mm and 40 S&W . Their accuracy is fine. I just do not like the aggressive grip texture. I put a bicycle inner tube on both of mine. I have just recently picked up a Berretta APX 9mm and I like ergonomics and the grip texture is where I want it on the front and back. I like that you can change out the frame for 50.00 and get a gray, green, or Flat Dark earth color. Magazine availability looks ok right now. The slide grooves are well thought out as well on the Beretta.
Beretta .I hate the snw mp9 2 o so bad I gave it away..
Bike inner tube on the grip? Great idea! Might have to try that!
Talon makes a rubberized grip tape so you don’t have to use bicycle inner tube. I have one on a Springfield XD and it’s a nice grip doesn’t make it too much bigger goes on tight using a blow dryer.
@@kylerobison1425 That was my cheap fix.
Have two....apx full size 17 rds and the apx Centurian 15rds Love these guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like the M&P 2.0 so much that I got the 3.6" Compact, the 4.25" and the 5.0". All three have TruGlo night sights installed and the 4.25" and 5.0" have the APEX flat trigger. Any of the three will cut that inch hole through the target at 7 yards with one magazine of ammo. The APEX trigger takes these guns to a new level.
That’s a great collection! I completely agree that the Apex triggers transform the guns. No doubt! Thank you and cheers!
Agreed!
You're doing some of, if not the best comparison videos on the tube...excellent work.
Thank you very much! Cheers!
I will agree i love my apx as well. I have the full fde combo. I have had glocks and m&p and as well as beretta. And the beretta apx won me over. Thank-you for the video great job KSGunGuy
I just purchased this gun and I'm excited to experience the things you've detailed in your review. Thank you
Just bought the APX .40 for 350.00. Sweet gun
Good Lord! Great price!!!!!
mdd1963 that’s why I bought it!!
That tab is also part of the trigger safety mechanism in the Beretta 92 but instead of a cylinder looking retractable protrusion it is rectangular. It is nothing more than a firing pin safety blocker released by the trigger.
I knew you would pick the Beretta good review I think I like the M&P but don't have either as of right now thanks for sharing.
Thank you for checking in Luke! Both are great but for whatever reason... the Beretta has just grown on me. That said, the M&P has come a long way and the compact has become a favorite of mine. Thank you and cheers brother!
Regarding the magazines, Beretta offers a factory APX 21 round capacity while M&P has a nice aftermarket Taran Tactical extension that gives you 25 round capacity. The grit has lessened in my M&P trigger take up over time. I chose the M&P over the APX simply due to side by side ergos at the counter and a few of the quirks the APX had such as the take down lever and back strap and chassis removal. Also, nearly a $100 price difference sure helped my decision. I might end up with an APX one day anyway. ha ha...Nice video, very fair comparison.
Thank you very much Tom! I agree, they are both great guns but the APX has some quirks. It's taken a while to be on board with both, but they definitely do their job. Great to know about the 21 round mag for the APX! Thank you again and cheers
Today might be your lucky day Thomas, Beretta just dropped the price of the APX to $329 as go November 2019!! That is a lot of gun for the money.....
Great review. I have a Brazilian LE surplus (NIB) with all the doodads on order from AIM surplus for $299 plus plus. I am looking forward to getting it. I didn't need another service 9mm but well... you know I have the sickness and this just was too good of a deal to pass up. Thanks!
I bought my APX combat before the msrp dropped. People told me i got ripped off. Now. Im glad i did. I love my APX!
Do you like the combat size? I currently love my big 92FS, but am thinking of getting a striker fired. I’m a small woman, and although I shoot the 92 really well, it’s really kinda big for me, hand-wise.
@@sbdreamin i love it! I have not held a 92fs yet. Try it out! You wont regret it!
I had both. But beretta took care of my weak mag spring by shipped me a brand new mag. Awesome. M&p sent my gun back to see the coating. Ended up inspect and checking everything on the gun. Shipped me extra mag for m&p 2.0, mag for shield, accessories for my Thompson riffles, etc. both company are amazing. But apx is on sale now. Ez pick apx. Can’t go wrong with it.
I own both! Love each one of them.
I very much enjoyed this video. It was clear, very understandable & helpful! TU!!!!!
Thank you very much Gregory! Glad you enjoyed brother. Cheers!
Could that firing pin block be carefully cut off and the hole plugged ? Would it still function properly? APX wins in my book, it is hands down the best looking striker fired handgun ever made. Have to have one in FDE.
It's the APX for me as well; the aggressive slide takes a bit of time to appreciate. I would say the APX has been more accurate for me since you get more surface due to the extended beaver tail in the back meaning you will shoot flatter.
My new APX fits my hand very well. I love the way it handles
I shot 4 different guns. 100 rounds a piece. I was more comfortable with the apx as well as accurate. It was also my deciding point on what brand to buy. It is a high quality gun.
That's awesome! Thank you and cheers!
I Concur 🤣😎😂
You didn't really take your time with first 100 shots either for either gun. But you did awesome on those targets. I have both and I chose both of them. If I could have one the Beretta takes the cake. Awesome video man and sorry for sounding like a troll. For be Beretta is the better option. Have a blessed one
Nice comparison, I didn't know much about the APX but that reset is nice.
Thank you Keanon! It’s a fun shooter for sure. I recommend giving one a try. Cheers brother!
I'm probably a bit biased as I own one, but as you've shown, the APX has better slide serrations for racking, a better out-of-the box trigger AND it feeds consistently! I was kinda surprised you didn't mention that issue with the S&W in your final comments.
Overall, good review and commentary.
couldn't miss w apx 9mm, so balanced;
struggled w Glock 48, violent action on smaller frame...proud to add S&W 2.0 45, noticed it punched his hands back much more than Beretta; Glock 48 does that too🎸 love Beretta best, grateful for the rest✌
I had that issue
12/2022 just bought the APX $349 used in excellent condition original case manual and 3 17rd mags.
Apx all the way. Bought the gray frame and changed out the striker spring and guide rod and spring to 20lb. Shoots fantastic. Trigger is even better and with the guide rod with spring even tighter groups.
That’s awesome Rob! Cheers!
Waiting for my Beretta Apx .40 cal. 400 bucks out the door can’t beat it!!
Both are nice M&P for me great review KS as Always!
Thank you very much Keith! Cheers brother
Well I don't own an APX yet, and I just picked up my 2.0 compact yesterday. I love the feel of the new M&P grip, I do prefer the sandpaper feel for sure. I think both of these are good pistols and I look forward to getting an APX some day. I think this is another one of those can't lose scenario's. Good video as always!
Thank you Fu! The Smith compact has really impressed me. If I can get an Apex, I think it will be among the top 4 in the collection. Not bad for a gun I thought I wouldn’t like! Cheers brother
I have both,I found the Smith more to my like, manual safety,4 ounce lighter, conceals easier, both guns quality.😀
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
Just got my APX but it's more popular no longer discounted, harder to find now that its ratings are up. Love the feel, can't wait to get to the range
Never shot Beretta but I do own the M&P 2. I love the gun and I new I'd change the trigger paddle when I bought the gun. Availability of after market parts and accessories is why I went with the Smith.
Thank you for sharing Machine! Agreed, the Smith needs a trigger upgrade but otherwise a solid gun. Thank you and cheers!
if youd bought the Beretta, you wouldnt need aftermarket support. The trigger on it comes from the factory perfect...no changes needed.
The M&P slide on the APX frame and Trigger but textured in the M&P stippling would be a beautiful gun
I have the apx compact and I love it
I just ordered my APX - can’t wait!
I got the 40cal apx love it i got mine at a gander mountain that was going out of business they had some serious sales going on i got mine only paid $198 for it even got a $950 ar15 for under $500. I seen peaple buying like 5 at a time I feel lucky to have even gotten one definitely couldn't pass it up for that price
Awesome!- I’m at the range now just getting ready to sling some lead .
I have about 750 rounds through the APX 9 ..... I love it! .... good day!
Love the video I'm 100% with your decision
Thank you very much! Cheers!
Thoughts on the beretta PX4 storm vs the M&P 2.0? I am trying to decide on my first handgun. I am leaning towards the PX4 as it shares mags with my CX4 storm carbine.
Personally, I prefer the M&P. It’s a tack driver. The mag compatibility is pretty nice however and the PX4 definitely impressed me. Thank you and cheers!
The PX4 Storm Compact it's a badass gun
I just purchased a Centurian. Waiting for it to show up day after tomorrow, supposedly.
I picked the APX over the M&P 2. Trigger, looks and ergonomics are better. Also, it was very low felt recoil.
Excellent points! I agree with you there, Thank you and cheers!
I have a sccy 9mm for my CCW its small easy to hide and not an issue to drive with. My APX 9mm is harder to hide and a pain in the azz to drive with an in-waist holster. I will go back and forth between either gun but I think the APX has it beat but you buy what you can afford to use at the time. Don't get me wrong the sccy has been a great gun for me for over 7 years and I will still use it for CCW
This was a great review. While I am the biggest fan of my 92FS I will probably go with S&W on this one and that is what makes this review so fantastic...no bias at all including strengths and weaknesses of both. Well done. I would have liked to have more info on recoil. Any feedback from others on the difference? Thanks!
Thank you very much Lee! Both truly are great guns. In my opinion, both have similar recoil but the Smith may shoot just a bit flatter. Cheers!
i own both and feel they have pretty equal recoil but i seem to be able to stay on target and shoot faster with the APX.
i’m a 92fs guy all the way too, in my opinion nothing shoots quite like it
I like the M&P,, and I own Shields in 9mm and 45acp... I would definitely buy the APX before the M&P 2.0
Both are great indeed but that APX is a ton of fun! Thank you and cheers brother!
Shield 45 is now $299 with green laser. Should I get it?
@@thisismagacountry1318 where?
@@roschelledavis1933 Try gun.deals. It posts everyone's deals on one site with links. Best deal now is 334, but it's the newer 2.0 version with laser.
So funny when I bought my first gun both of these were on sale and I had to choose between them. I went S&W. Even the guy at the gun store said "good choice". Lol
Sig 365 is in a class of it,s own!
APX is an awesome gun !
Meant to say glad I have both of them lol. Take care
Has anyone tried racking a wet slide. I know we all talk about slide serrations but how do they work when they have been in water and wet. Do they still grip the same?
Great video! I love the APX. I'd love to see a comparison between the APX and the VP9.
Thank you very much! That’s a great suggestion. I’ll see what I can do! Cheers
Fantastic review, I like your videos, and I mostly agree with your choices
Thanks man for your efforts god bless you
Thank you very much! That means a lot. Cheers!
One thing to note on the grip texture of the m2.0...U cannot add texture without adding cash but u can take the texture down for free. Grip texture is a very popular mod with handguns, whether it be grip tape or a custom stipple job. All u need to do is get some fine sandpaper and sand the texture down to your liking. This is what I did with my. 45 shield and m2.0c to make them carry friendly. I couldn't be happier with the texture.
Excellent point Paul! I couldn’t agree more. I wonder if the 2.0 shield 9mm will have the exact same texture as well. Thank you and cheers!
Funny that the APX won on looks but the trigger and the fail to feed on the S&W was not a factor in his deceison. I will take the Beretta, $380 at Bass Pro Shop
which one would you say has the softer felt recoil, for smaller folks like my 5' wife with smaller hands ? from video and others I've seen, it looks like the apex when slide goes forward, has a bit of a bounce before settling for the follow up shot. Is this seem to be the case ? compared to a cz sp10 C or F ? compared to G19 ? which one has the smallest grip ?
Give the Smith & Wesson M&P 380 Shield EZ a look. It's like shooting .22lr. And I dare say the trigger break is more crisp than my M&P 2.0 9mm. You hit the wall, then boom.
@@er84-k1x I went with a Grand Power Q1S, for me, and I'm going to pimp out an old Star .380 I have and engrave her name it w/ something funny...
Excellent video. In fact so excellent that I'm even more conflicted which pistol to buy!! Maybe I'll just screw it and get the G19X!!
Thank you! I'd go 19X, lol. Cheers!
I have both, but the M&P in 5" FDE. I was drawn to the M&P for it's looks, especially in the all FDE color. I immediately installed the TFX Pro sights (which are awesome, but front orange dot needs to be bigger like Trijicon HD). I love the grip texture, bit for some reason, I just like to grab the APX. The grip shape and texture feels very natural to me. It feels very similar to my PPQ.
Can't really explain it, but it feels more balanced to me. Neither trigger feels quality like the PPQ, but I can live with both. Now if Beretta would come out with a compact chassis in FDE, now you're talking. I'm also drawn to out of the ordinary. APX - Ribbed for pleasure.
Excellent thoughts John! The FDE M&P looks awesome but I agree, the APX definitely draws you in. I agree, a more compact version would be awesome. Perhaps next year? Thank you and cheers brother!
I can't wait to try out my new Beretta APX I got 3 weeks ago.
I've been watching a lot of your videos & just today I sub'd! I always hit the "like" because it's well deserved. Thank you for another good video but since you posted this video there's been the S&W M&P 2,O Compact & the BERETTA APX compact & since I have a permit to carry I'd like to see a video of the compact versions.Being that the APX Compact is fairly new there are no videos on RUclips about it.
Thank you very much John! I do have the 2.0C and am very interested in the APXc. If I pick one up, I will do the comparison for you. Cheers brother!
I love my beretta apx full size I've got about 400 rounds threw it its still going strong an smooth
Personally from a combat sidearm aspect,.. the Beretta is a really Sweet pistol,.. I like it and the take down in my opinion is like a striker fired M9 . same principle with the lever and button,... If only one though probably the S&W since it has more aftermarket stuff right now,... but the Beretta is on track to be a great gun especially if they do a gen 2. ...
Well said Eric! I agree there’s potential with this platform and hopefully Beretta will make some good updates on the next model. Agreed about the aftermarket support for the Smith. Thank you and cheers brother!
APX, my second Beretta!
Good review choice two of the best pistols on the market
The Beretta 92 and PX4 have the same firing pin block that pops up. I’m guessing it won’t be an issue on the APX because it hasn’t been an issue on either of those guns.
It's all about the ergonomics and personal preference the Smith & Wesson is proven accurate and reliable however with Berettas new price point it's about $150 cheaper than the Smith ,I prefer the Smith but at $339 I would probably take the Beretta if I could only afford one they're both excellent guns
Great Video!!! However, I don't even think it's close. The APX is a much better gun in my opinion. Softer shooting, better combat pistol, better accuracy, better craftsmanship. I think the trigger is light years ahead of the Smith. But I am not a fan of the hinge trigger with the exception of the FNS or the 509. The APX is vastly underrated and I can't wait for the Compact and the sub-compact models to come out, along with the 45.
I agree Rota. The APX has really impressed me and you’re right, the trigger is very good. Much better than the M&P. If they come out with a compact, I think it would be a real contender! Thank you and cheers as always brother
Very good and quality review. Thank you!
Thank you very much Dennis! Cheers brother
smith and wesson was in the military to love my beretta apx
I love my M&P 2.0 in 40 cal. But I would definitely consider the apx.
Good review.....I always like Beretta firearms....I would like to get an APX someday.....Stay Safe...Steve from Illinois.
Thank you Steve! They are great shooters indeed. Cheers!
I'm looking at the compact versions of each (3.6" for M&P). Would you recommend the M&P 2.0 Compact over the APX Compact? Or vice versa? Thanks
Yes, I prefer the Smith. Both are great Guns but the 2.0 Compact is a seriously good shooter. Thank you and cheers!
I've owned both....but I prefer the M&P 4.0" barrel version of the compact. The extra .4 gives you a longer sight radius. If you're going with a 3.6 ish inch barrel better to look at the Sig P365 in my opinion. I noticed that below 4" I see a slight dip in accuracy....and of course you also lose some ballistics.
I typically buy and try most of the new mainstream popular guns that come out I compare and then just sell the ones I don't want to keep. I sold my APX Centurion...nothing wrong with it. I just prefer the ergonomics, lighter weight, better grip texture, and slimmer slide of the M&P.
This was a nice review. Good video style, low-ego and good camera angles and lighting. I've had 3 of the M2.0s (45 fullsize, 9mm compact, and shield) for about a year and I just ordered the 5" M2.0 Pro Series as well as the APX Fullsize due to the recent price drop. The M2.0s are exceptional guns, but my wonderful experiences with the Beretta 92 and PX4 lines give me high hopes for the APX too, especially given the $328 including shipping (!!!) that I paid for the APX. There's nothing in that price bracket even close to Beretta quality. Should be a nice time. Anyway, I'm rambling, nice review on two good guns.
I bought the Centurion version of the APX shipped for around that price recently as well! I don't really shoot much or care much about guns until recently and I've been carrying a steel frame IMI Jericho 941R for almost a decade. A promotion at work requires me to stand and walk around all day instead of sitting behind a computer for most of it. After looking up newer guns that would be a better fit for carrying, I saw the price drop on the APX line and had to jump on the deal. I tested out a few different guns at the range and I think the APX is a better deal compared to other comparable guns at that price. I was actually about to purchase a M&P 2.0 compact until I saw that the APX was almost $100 cheaper. I know sites like budsgunhop were running deals for many guns from the APX line at similar prices. Still not as cheap as the full size $299 APX my father got after the $100 summer rebate from Beretta, but I think that's the closest we're going to get without having to do a rebate. I can't wait to take my APX to the range.