Knuckles Reviewing The IND (V) Train
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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The (V), which ran from Forest Hills, Queens to 2nd Avenue in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, was a line that had some history with it. Unfortunately, the (V) only was in service for about 9 years and was suspended from service permanently on June 25th, 2010, due to budget cuts and now the (M) replaces the majority of the line, with the exception of 2nd Avenue Station.
The (V) used mainly Budd R-32s, Pullman Standard R-46s, St. Louis R-40Ms and R42s as well as the Alstom / Kawasaki R-160s and was based out of Jamaica Yard.
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Part of the reason ridership was low on the (V) at first was because they made it go down 53 St. as a local, so people preferred the (E) in hopes of getting to their transfer to the (6) sooner, overcrowding the (E) in the process.
Relocated Redbird But why the MTA didn't want to eliminate the m line instead of the v. I mean the MTA could of kept the v and use it to extend it to Metropolitan Avenue.
CPW Local Wait! If people wanted the e because it was express in Queens, isn't the M local in Queens too? I mean it does make all the v line stops except 2 avenue, so why are people riding it more than they did with the v line? I mean what's the difference between the V going to 53 st Manhattan back then and the M stopping at 53 st nowadays?
CPW Local Well technically they still could start using Old Tech Trains on the (M) again but they would have to make brand new orange (M) rollsigns on both the R32s & R42s. Also I heard rumors of a potential R32 return on the (M) Line when it becomes a shuttle between Middle Village-Metropolitan Avenue & Myrtle Avenue-Wycoff Avenue this September. I doubt that'll happen but it's possible you never know.
CPW Local Yeah I agree maybe the R42s would be better maintained at different yard. As far as we know R42s being on Fresh Pond Road Yard again could potentially help the R42s last longer. R42s at East New Yard seems to be slowly aging the R42s quicker than they should be.
CPW Local True it's because of the fact that Coney Island Yard is one of the biggest NYC Subway Train Yards that makes such a good yard. Also weren't some R32s,R38s,R40s,R42s,R44s,& R46s rebuilt at Coney Island Yard or was it just the R32s,R40s,& R42s rebuilt there? Either way like you said Coney Island Yard would take much more care of R42s than East New York Yard does. The remaining 5 sets should run on the (B)(D)(G)(N)(Q) & (W) Lines again (1 set per line).
I did not expect it to be the V. Shit and now I am filled with nostalgia. Love this review.
I do expect the v train To run on The line again
You forgot to mention also one of the test trains on the V route back in 2001 was an R40 Slant lol! Enjoyed the review. Alot. Hope to see more in the future.
I miss riding (V) train in R46 to Broadway Lafayette with my grandmother while my grandmother was alive and (V) line too when I was little kid on 2008.
I suspected it was the (V). It really sounds like one cool train. I remember seeing it using R46s a lot and to add, it was within it's last few weeks it used R160s. Not just that last train.
It has me wondering how'd it do today had it not went.
This is a 2nd Ave bound (V) Express train, the next stop is:Badass of Broadway Jr. Transfer is available to The (W) train review, The (7) train review, and The new M&V combo/ Orange (M) train review
get it... 'cause I think the W is the Badass of Broadway Jr.
if you agree, you should say my version of the W's nickname and you got it from your biggest fan: Jaysen... when the (W) review comes out of course
"This Is The Brooklyn Bound (M) Train" The Next Stop Is Court Street.
This is Broad Street. Transfer is available to the J and Z trains.
This is a Bay Parkway bound M local train. The next stop is Court Street.
This is Chambers Street. Transfer is available to the 4, 5, 6, and J trains.
This is the last stop on this train. Thank you for riding on MTA New York City Transit. (M goes to Chambers other times, not Broad street.)
The Chambers street announcements?
The V!!!!! 👏
Like Button For The V train comeback 👍
ik the V train Is Not Coming back but if the V train came back
Josh Anariba it would be better if the (V) Train comes back but the (V) Train is rest in peace and not forgotten
Cesar Salas Please Subscribe To Me Now.
R32 R38 (C) Trains TOO STRONG!
JoshMaster Productions How About The Brown (M) Train Remember Bay Parkway.
JoshMaster Productions The V Will comeback
I miss this train so much... I hope it comes back...
The (V) Train should use R68's and R68A's with R32's (GE) and R32A's (MK)
Cesar Salas LOL IT USED R160s TO
Though im late, I remember the good ol V train and riding at a few years ago. I really miss it. I ended up riding an R42 on the V but it was super long ago. Wish it comes back soon just like the W did a while ago. :)
TornadoYT The W came back for Second Avenue Subway-related service changes. The V line however is still here, just redesignated as the Orange M.
Sooo that means the V is hiding as the orange M and it runs to Essex St or 71st Aves?
Traink4 It essentially covers the same route, so yes.
Ok then
I wish the V will still here in 2017
R46 FAN It's the MTA's fault
GoGo supetoe well that's ture
R46 FAN. It's all MTA's fault and MTA is stupid.
Cesar Salas facts
Yup
I miss the V train SO MUCH😭😭!
FINALLY THE V HAS COME BACK
HOME
IF YOU SMEEEEEELL!! WHAT THE (V)IC!! IS!! COOKIN!!
+The Super Subway Bros. Do You Smile What The R32 (V) Train Is Cooking.
@@TheSuperSubwayBros yo man we miss you and look at my name and see what name that is
It's The (V) Train review. Now make the (W) Train review.
Cesar Salas No More R32 N Trains!
W Train is up
R32 E Train Fan they did a W train review
Yeah V trains about time 😄
HOLY SH!T THE V TRAIN!!!! I remember see those videos of the people having a blast.
V has been the best service out there, enough said. Did helped from Manhattan to Queens, unlike the orange M, which was too short and packed.
Lone Swifter. You got that right.
Lone Swifter The Orange M helps out everybody, people going from Middle Village - Midtown, and the Forest Hills - Manhattan.
Zero Point UTTP TMQTA That’s because of the platform limitations on the Jamaica and Myrtle Avenue Lines. However, a service increase was made in June 2016 to accommodate growing ridership.
Plus even before the service increase, the M did not cause any crowding issues on Queens Blvd.
If they want to bring back the (V), they should give it it's own line. Also, that explains why the (V) went to Euclid Avenue
SubwayWizardX18 The V went to Euclid because of a fire at Chambers Street that suspended C service.
Zero Point UTTP TMQTA No. Following the Fire, C service was completely suspended. V service was extended to Euclid Avenue to compensate. Other lines picked up the slack.
I miss the V train! Good ol' (V)ictor!
i marked tf out just now
Super Subway Bros: The (V) Train Review
Happy 16th birthday v train
my favorite b division train of all time
Last year I saw a fully operating V train at West 4
probly a guy thought the V train is still in service
amazing review btw and I never expected this
nice video of the V train and regarding R40M you can make a set with a R32 and R42 for the V train from 2009-June 25 2010. the only route to still have this train on a transfer is the R160 W train at 34th street Herald Square if not updated
RIP V (2001-2010)
Too bad I never rode the (V) train 😢.
Sonic The Hedgehog break dancing and playing air guitar. How'd you puul that off and what game is it from?
7 train review please!!!
3:24 3:26 4:15 and 4:04 I love those trains😭😭😭
The irt line that feels like the v train is the 7 line
Reason: Catherine voices “the next stop is” in the 7 line like in the v line
do the rockaway park shuttle review
Cdai Massey the secret name is H train they did a review
The V train is back now
me when i lie:
The V train will Mike come back
The V train will be back in service again
If the V was still here it would have to have cbtc. Sense it was with the queens blvd line
My favorite subway line
Out of this outcome the (W) came back 6 years later. Weird
Cross It was needed due to Second Avenue Subway-related service changes, as the Q would be rerouted to serve the line. Therefore, the W, which is internally a branch of the N, was bought back to replace the Q.
I missed all of the good equipment on the V. I only remember R46s on the V.
Blake McNamara They also had R160s on the V prior to elimination. If you look at videos on the last V, it was an R160.
@@TheRailLeaguer I've seen that. However, I was referring to good equipment.
Blake McNamara Thats true. Also, the R160s are as good, if not better, as the R46.
@@TheRailLeaguer And the R32s are better than both of them!
Blake McNamara Actually, the R32 and R42s are the worst cars in the fleet. Of the two, the R32s are in a slightly better shape. Luckily, the new R211s will have new features and looks that will knock your socks off. New open gangways in some cars, a better FIND displays and most importantly, CBTC!!!!! Who does not want that?
YES R46 V TRAIN!!!
Do the R32 N Train Review
Very good review bro
that fire happened on my birthday
I've ride on the V once in 2009.
knuckles iam in a mid process of a 7 train review i whould love to do a colab with u on the 7 I got information/history on it and I know the line well
tubblescousine2 Fuck u
If the MTA don't wanna let the V Train come back to Queens Boulevard, then they should bring it back to help 8th Avenue in Manhattan, and 4th Avenue in Brooklyn.
daniel samuels The MTA is planing for frequency increases on the M to help out the crowds on the entire line.
What kinda gifts did the MTA give? Hmmm lemme guess... an unlimited metro card that had a limit and also expires in 3 hours
The *E*
Is a meme in 2018
Knuckles predicted it
memories...
I Miss the V. The Orange M is total bull. Its terminals are too close to each-other, and there are always delays. The Old M Was better, and so was the V.
Plus you had more trains running via West end. Now, not as many... Also my name starts with a V. RIP (V)incent 2001 - 2010
TotalBoogeymenH2Oplus I think that the Orange m line is a great route.
Karen Evans iryo. I mean, the orange M is okay. Only problem is Both terminals are in queens nearly making it a circle line.
My advice for the MTA: build a trunk that connects the M from Forest Hills to Metropolitan Av.
E Z Borenstein Why not send the w train via 4 ave local to help out the r line and it can end at either 9 ave or Bay pkwy.
K Train 8 Av Local Better Idea: Extend the J train to Bay Ridge - 95th Street, bump up R service to every 6 minutes, and have the M run to 96th Street/Second Avenue on weekends PERMANENTLY. Much better for ridership.
We need the V Train to come back!
Rails Unlimited Railfanning Here is how we can do it:
-Build a new connection under Spring Street between the Nassau Street Line and the 8th Avenue Line, with a single stop at Spring Street.
-Build a new connection under the East River between the Broadway Line and the Fulton Street Line with a single new stop at Columbia Street and a reactivated stop at Court Street. The outer tracks and platform would be reactivated.
-Replace the Fulton Street Elevated (used by the J/Z) with a Subway connecting the Fulton Street Line to the Jamaica Line at Cypress Hills.
-Extend the Astoria Line to Laguardia Airport (LGA)
-Extend the Upper Level Archer Avenue Line to Rosedale vía LIRR line.
-Extend the Lower Level Archer Avenue Line to Hollis
-Second Avenue extension vía 3rd Avenue
-Concourse Line extension to Co-op City.
-Queens Blvd extension to Springfield Blvd.
-4th Avenue extension to 101st Street.
-Connection if Second Avenue Subway (SAS) to the 4th Avenue Line.
I’m not going to go over this again, but here are the services I plan:
(A): 207th Street to Far Rockaway. 8th Avenue Express (Local north of 145th Street), Fulton Street Express. Late nights service is all local
(B): Bedford Park Blvd to Brighton Beach. Concourse Local, 8th Avenue Local, 6th Avenue Express, Brighton Express. Weekdays only.
(C): 207th Street to Lefferts Blvd. 8th Avenue Express (Local of 145th Street), Fulton Street express. Late nights, no service. Use A and R.
(D): Co-op City-Bartow Avenue to Coney Island. Concourse Local (express in peak direction rush hours), 8th Avenue Local, 6th Avenue Express, 4th Avenue Express via West End. Late night service is all local.
(E): Rosedale-F. Lewis to World Trade Center. Queens Blvd Express, 8th Avenue Local vía 53rd Street. Late nights is all local.
(F): Springfield Blvd to Coney Island. Queens Blvd Express, 6th Avenue Local vía 63rd Street, Culver Local. Late night service is all local.
(G): Court Sq to Church Avenue. Local
(J): Broadway Junction to 101st Street. Jamaica Local, Nassau Street Local, 4th Avenue Local. Night service terminates at Broad Street.
(K): Jamaica-179th Street to Metropolitan Avenue. Queens Blvd Local, 8th Avenue Local vía 53rd Street, Jamaica Local, Myrtle Local. Night service terminates at 59th Street-Columbus Circle instead of 179th Street.
(L): 8th Avenue to Rockaway Pkwy. 14th Street-Canarsie Local.
(N)/(Q): Gun Hill Road to Coney Island. Second Avenue Local, Broadway Express, Brighton Local (Q), 4th Avenue express via Sea Beach (N). Late nights all service is local.
(R): LaGurdia Airport to Euclid Avenue. Astoria Local, Broadway Local, Fulton Street Local. Night service is extended to Lefferts Blvd.
(S): Shuttles on Franklin Avenue and Rockaway Park:
-Franklin Avenue to Prospect Park
-Broad Channel (Euclid Avenue at night) to Rockaway Park
(T): Harlem-125th Street to 101st Street. Second Avenue Local, 4th Avenue Local.
(V): Jamaica-179th Street to Coney Island. Queens Blvd Local, 6th Avenue Local vía 63rd Street, Culver Express. Weekend service terminates at 2nd Avenue instead of Coney Island. No night service.
(W): LaGuardia Airport to Hollis. Astoria Local, Broadway Local, Fulton Local, Jamaica Local.
ROBLOX gaming Railfanner Bro, the V was GARBAGE it was just a short F train going down to 53rd St tube. Most people liked the E and F better.
Anyways, the ORANGE M IS THE V but better, so shut up about the V it ain't coming back.
Song?
1:45 that was a V train on the F line
Yo Knux! Where's my R32 N train review at!? Lol
I was born in 2007 so I rode the V!
The v train doesn't run anymore.since 2010.I want the v train to come back.if the mta brings back the brown M train lol.
Alex The railfan true
but i love Orange M
Actually, if they bring the brown (M) back, they have to bring the (V) back because the orange (M) is a replacement for the (V)
I dont want the brown m im keeping the orange m
RIP 4th Ave!
On April fools day he MTA should operate a V train along its original route, just one round trip during noon hours
They did that before during work on the M train in 2017 and 2018. During this work, a few M trains from Queens did not terminate at Broadway Junction, but rather at 2nd Avenue. Those trains then went back into service northbound (still carrying the M designation) to Queens.
Song at the end?
I think the orange M is way better now that in runs to 96th st/2nd Ave on weekends now
That service no longer exists except during L train work in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Weekend service head since terminated at Essex Street.
@@TheRailLeaguerTo be honest, I think they could spice it up, and make the 2nd Avenue Line its main home. That would be so, if only they is a Bronx portion in the 2nd Avenue Line (where the former 3rd Avenue El was) and join the T. Meanwhile, Q and another service (K) can go to 125th Street Columbia University.
Finally a new review.
Yall got the song?
Sonic music / television rules of nation by daft punk
OMG THE LEGEND
MTA should make a new BMT or IND line and let the V handle it
They should revive the v as an f express imo
With some new trackage to connect the Nassau Street Line with the 8th Avenue Line directly that could work.
Do the Orange M train review
The V Train Story
He did a dab
V train was coolfrom 71 av to 2 av
Hendrix Brown Apparently, it took the wrong routing. I would’ve had the V go up 63rd Street and had a K express from Queens Plaza to Euclid Avenue, with the C going to World Trade Center.
good review knuckles
Turn the V side ways and you get >
you know cause that train repersent moving forward
wow make sense but stupid
and (V) [V] Next time
what a surprise
7:57 For the dank outro
Anyway I think that the V is badass i took a R32 V Because well fuck the D any way the MTAs choice to kill the V was madness i dont view 6th Av the same because........the M Crap
fruits plan fruits Replacing the V with the M made more sense because it provided direct access between Ridgewood and Middle Village and Midtown, a service that has become super popular with the crowds there.
To bring back some Brown M service, I would suggest extending the J/Z from Broad St to Bay Ridge-95th Street, and running additional D service between Coney Island and 47th-50th Streets, then via the Second Avenue line to 96th Street. That would be much better,
do the 7 train review
did it ran on weekends
No
The Super Subway Bros. ok just asking
do the 9 train review plzzz
The w train review please.
Thank you, BUDGET CUTS! FOR KILLING THE V
ItsDavidTubeHD The V was just redesignated, not “killed”.
@@TheRailLeaguer woops, me from 2022 here, yeah I can see that lol
I NOW THAT THE V TRAIN IS OUT IN 6 AVENUE WITH THE B D AND F TRAINS IN 6 ANENUE R . I . P V TRAIN 2001 TO 2010 THE M TRAIN IS RUNNIG TO 6 AVENUE WITH B D AND F TRAIN GUYS OF YOU SEE V TRAIN IT IS GOING TO BE COOL WITH IN MANHATTAN AND QUEENS TO 2nd AVE AND 71 AVES
Yes finally
The Grand Productions sup
mta productions 2 hi
The Grand Productions it's Charles brandin
I miss the R32 (V) Train. The real (V) Train. The orange (M) Train's route makes no sense at all and it's stupid the (V) Train should've been kept to be the last stop Lower East Side 2nd Avenue even via 53rd Street with (E) up to 5th Avenue/53rd Street. No orange (M) Train allow in MTA New York City Transit Authorty Subway, it's forrbitten and history. Period!
Cesar Salas Let me just say that if you wanted to work for the M.T.A by bringing back the brown m line and the v line, then I would want to wish you good luck because you will get fired sooner or later.
Karen Evans lmao the Nassau Street (M) and (V) Train's were awesome service plus they're not coming back the (M) Train service should've get discuontinoued let the (Z) go to Middle Villge on my opinon
Karen Evans if you tell MTA. Put the (M) Train orange Queens from to Queens you would get fired already
R32 F Train The Orange M is much better than the garbage you want to bring back.
I knew it!!! I f***ing knew it!!!
Hey Guys i complained to the MTA about the R62A's being on the 6 and the MTA said they will interview passengers to see how they like the change! and what new car type will be on the 6 line you can thank me because im gonna make the R62A'S leave the 6 line
Milton R142AProduction how do you report a complain to the MTA? I want to submit a complain as well.
go to there facebook page and click on messages or messenger and text them your complain and they will reply back
well that's your opinion i don't like the R62A's on the 6 line because they brake down to much and service slows down i rather have The R62's on the 6 because i'd never seen a r62 brake down on the (1) and (3) lines
lol so true
Milton R142AProduction the R62a was the best thing to ever come to the 6 line
Bring back the V
Yoyo Qtrain Why? The new Orange M train is much better than the V train.
No like he says bring it back
Yoyo Qtrain The M train IS the V train. There’s nothing different about it (aside from the fact that it doesn’t serve Second Avenue, which honestly, is not a huge deal).
The m is a piece of shit
Yoyo Qtrain Why? The Orange M provides a much needed once seat ride between the growing neighborhoods of Ridgewood, Middle Village, Bushwick, Bed-Stuy and other North Brooklyn and Central Queens (vía bus) neighborhoods and Midtown Manhattan. 22000 riders have benefitted from this service and ZERO people traveling between Queens Blvd local and 6th Avenue were impacted by this change. What don’t you like about that?
Rip V (2001-2010)
Wow mta you have to be a ass hole
Michael Moran WTF?
oh shit
3:25 what
my train
i would like to ride the ? train
Nice vid. The V was worthless, M makes more sense. You get a one seat ride from 6th Ave over the Williamsburg bridge. No transfer at Essex and Delancey necessary.
E Z Borenstein How so?
E Z Borenstein You know what else is useless.....
YOUR COMMENT IS!
E Z Borenstein The run along 6th Ave is pretty short. Plus more people find the connection between the BMT and IND a benefit to their commutes. No one was riding the M to Brooklyn anyway. Having a few more timers beats the hell out of waiting for the F train.
E Z Borenstein I was just kidding! It's your opinion! I mean what if the w train got extended to 9th ave or Bay pkwy to help out the d and r.
Karen Evans I would extend the J to 95th Street, that way, from a commuters point of view, passengers on the local tracks would get more service.
Do JFK Depot
I like the v q and n train but when i was at Euclid avenue I saw the e run on the c I hate you E
It's not what I need...
sonc blk Don't stop, just proceed!
oh come on sonc blk, don't be like Jamiaca Yard
Don't Stop.
Just Proceed.
Dj V
No I like the Orange M train better than the V train
Fuck that I rather have to brown M who agrees
Traink4 I don’t. However, so satisfy everyone, here is a new plan:
A new connection is built connecting Nassau Street at Bowery and the 8th Avenue Line at Spring Street, as well as a new East River Tunnel connecting the Whitehall Street station with the outer tracks at Hoyt Street. This way, we can connect the Jamaica Line to an uptown trunk while introducing Culver Express and deinterlining Queens Blvd.
For service changes, here’s how I would go about it:
With the new connection, the M can be taken off the 6th Avenue Line. Instead, the line would become the K and operate the same route as today (I will get to the Queens changes in a bit). The difference is that the new K will travel via 8th Avenue between 5th Avenue and Essex Street. To make room for the K, the C would be an express on the 8th Avenue Line. New switches south of 59th Street would be built to have the maneuver occur at the same time as merging and diverging B and D trains. The C and K would operate at 10 trains per hour, supplementing the A and E at 15 trains per hour.
With the M off 6th Avenue, this creates additional capacity for another service on 6th Avenue. This new service will be designated the V, running from Jamaica-179th Street to Kings Hwy vía the exact same route as the F, except via Queens Blvd Local In Queens and Culver Express In Brooklyn. The V would also operate at 10 trains per hour.
With the K and V both on Queens Blvd Local, we can move the R off the line since it would be redundant. R service would be rerouted full time to Astoria-Ditmars, and the N would be rerouted to 96th Street with the Q.
On that note, south of Whitehall Street, the R, instead of going on the 4th Avenue Line, will travel via the new tunnel, and onto the IND Fulton Street Line Local tracks to Euclid Avenue. This allows the C to move to the express tracks and out to Lefferts Blvd. At this point, the C would be staffed and scheduled as part of the A and Rockaway Park Shuttle will be become the H and be a part of the A. The A and H would operate at 8 trains per hour each, giving 16 trains per hour, and with the 10 tph C service, the Fulton Express would be at 26 trains per hour. With the R now at 15 trains per hour, both Fulton Local and Express, as well as Broadway and Astoria service would now have more frequent service.
To replace 4th Avenue service, in the short term, I am proposing either a J train extension to 95th Street, or a separate Nassau Street overlay, designated M, that would run between Chambers or Essex Streets and 95th Street. Either option would allow for more reliable and frequent service for 4th Avenue riders.
And this brings me to a long term plan, which is to disconnect the Broadway-Brooklyn elevated with the Jamaica Avenue Elevated, and tear down the structure over Fulton Street. A new subway under Jamaica Avenue with two or three stops would be built connecting the Jamaica Avenue elevated at Cypress Hills and the Fulton Street local line at Broadway Junction. From here, with the full buildout of the Second Avenue Subway, the T would be extended south of Hanover Sq, cross via a new tunnel, and then join the R to Broadway Junction. At Broadway Junction, the T would split from the R, and operate via the new Jamaica Avenue path to Jamaica Center. This would require the Jamaica El stations to be upgraded for longer trains, as would the East NY Yard. A single track connection on Fulton could be retained for yard access.
However, this long term plan would allow for faster rides to Lower Manhattan, and give the Fulton Local line 25 trains per hour (unfortunately the T would have to be at 10 trains per hour but it’s not a big deal), providing even more frequent service than what is presently offered. J service would be truncated to Broadway Junction and can absorb the Brown M to 95th Street with no issues.
All in all, my plan would not only retain one seat rides, but introduce better and faster service for everyone. It’s a win-win.
Zero Point KKTK TPTS AVGCP AEDCP AFC AFR AFTL AFTW Why do want the Brown M without replacing service between Midtown and the Jamaica Line? The plan I posted is much better.
@Zero Point KKTK TPTS AVGCP AEDCP AFC AFR AFTL AFTW But there are timers on EVERY line. They can easily be recalibrated or removed. The real problem the M and R bought were bottlenecks on 1960's connections which now seem no longer necessary. However, I did modify my plans for the new connections:
Two new connections would be built:
-A two-track connection under Spring Street connecting the Nassau Street Line at Bowery and the 8th Avenue Line at Spring Street. The connections would feature a lower level platform at Spring Street and another station along Spring Street between Broadway and Lafayette Streets. A modification to this plan involves the stations. Originally, I intended for the Broadway-Lafayette stop to be three tracks and two island platforms for terminating trains. However, with the new modification, the Lower Level Spring Street platforms would now be three tracks with two island platforms, allowing for trains to terminate here. Broadway-Lafayette will be two tracks with one island platform. There would still be a transfer opportunity to both the Lexington Avenue and Broadway Lines for service to Lower Manhattan and southern Brooklyn.
-A two-track connection under the East River connecting Whitehall Street on the BMT Broadway Line and the Hoyt-Schermerhorn on the Fulton Street Line via the Court Street stop, which is now a museum. There would be provisions for future services to ride along with the R. In addition, a possible station serving Brooklyn Bridge Park on this line would be evaluated, whereas the original plans did not include such evaluation.
A third long term connection would be built connecting the Fulton Street Line with the BMT Jamaica El via Jamaica Avenue, eliminating the Fulton El.
Now for service changes:
8th Avenue, 53rd Street, Concourse:
The 8th Avenue Line carries 5 services. The main services are the A and C trains from Washington Heights and Inwood, the E from Queens and the B and D from the Bronx, which use the 8th Avenue Line between 145th Street to 59th Street before splitting onto the 6th Avenue trunk line going to Brooklyn. The B operates local and the D express. Meanwhile, the A provides express service on the entire line while the C is local south of 168th Street. The E is local.
One of the key changes of the new connections would be that a 6th Service would be added on the 8th Avenue Line. Under this plan, the M would still travel from Forest Hills-71st Avenue to Metropolitan Avenue, but instead of traveling via 6th Avenue, the line would now do so via 8th Avenue. The line, which will be redesignated the K, will operate at 10 trains per hour. Combined with the E, which will run at 15 trains per hour, this would allow for more frequent service between Queens Plaza and Spring Street through the 53rd Street Tunnel.
To make room for the K, the C would be moved to the express tracks. Original plans called for the installation of new switches south of 59th Street to allow the C to continue to run local north of 59th Street without interfering with merging and diverging B and D trains. The new plans have cut this out, in favor of more aggressive deinterlining. Under this new plan, the C would run express south of 145th Street. From here, all A and C service would run local north of 145th Street and operate out to 207th Street. The D would have to run local with the B. While this would result in Concourse riders, this would result in more frequent service for all riders since the B and C both operate at 10 trains per hour, the A and D will operate at 15 trains per hour. Speeds on all trains will increase since trains will not have to wait for each other to finish merging and diverging.
The final result would be the E and K to be on the local tracks south of 42nd Street, with the B and D on the local tracks between 145th and 59th Street. The express tracks between 207th Street and 168th Street, the local track to 145th Street, and the express tracks between 145th and Canal would host A and C service. This makes service much more efficient.
6th Avenue, 63rd Street, Culver:
The 6th Avenue corridor has two services, the B, D, F, and M. The B and D take the express tracks between 59th Street and Grand Street, while the F and M take the local tracks. The M connects to both the 53rd Street Line and the Jamaica Line via Chrystie, while the F operate on the full line via 63rd Street. With the rerouting of the M, there is room for more efficient services.
The plan for 6th Avenue is unchanged compared to the original. The concept is the same, with a revived V train running into Brooklyn-Kings Hwy during weekdays as the Culver Express and Queens Blvd Local, and the F and G remaining unchanged. The G and V would operate at 10 trains per hour, and the F 15, allowing for more frequent and faster service for Culver riders. Weekend V service would terminate at Second Avenue to service Queens Blvd in place of the R.
Queens Blvd:
The Queens Blvd line hosts the E, F, M, and R trains. R service on this line impacts reliability on the entire line, and Forest Hills is congested.
Like 6th Avenue, the plans for Queens Blvd has not changed compared to the original. The K and V would be local to 179 (replacing the M and R), while the E and F would be express all the way to Jamaica. On weekends, the K would terminate at Queens Plaza, and the V would continue with local service to replace the R.
Broadway, Astoria, Second Avenue:
Plans for Broadway services has not changed as well. The R would travel to Astoria, and the N would be rerouted to run with the Q on the Second Avenue Subway. With the R operating at 15 trains, and the N and Q both at 10 trains, service would become more frequent.
Fulton Street, Rockaway:
The only changes to the services using these lines (both short term and long term) is related to A and C service in the Rockaways. The basic routing plans for the line has unchanged, with the R on the Fulton Street local to Euclid Avenue and the C express with the A, going to Lefferts Blvd. Originally, the C was planned to go to Rockaway Park, but was changed due to scheduling concerns. The A would continue to travel to Far Rockaway, while the Rockaway Park Shuttle would become the H to/from Manhattan. All three lines would operate at 10 trains per hour. This gives more frequent service for Fulton Riders, and a transfer-free commute to South Ferry as well.
Complementing this is a T line that would operate local with the R between Court St and Broadway Jct and out to Queens. This will be discussed later:
4th Avenue, Nassau, Jamaica:
The R on 4th Avenue would be replaced with an extension of the J train, operating at 15 trains per hour. This would result in a more reliable service. Also, to address concerns about the lack of a second service on the West End Line, D service would be increased.
To maintain that reliability, J service would be truncated to Broadway Junction. To replace service to Jamaica Center, the T would operate via the new Jamaica Avenue Subway and existing elevated to Jamaica Center. This would allow for faster rides to Lower Manhattan for Jamaica riders. Z service would be folded into the J.
Crosstown Line:
Aside from the frequency increase in G train service, no reroutes would occur. However, the installation of switches between Queens Plz and Court Sq should be evaluated to allow for the G to terminate at Queens Plaza with no interference with E and K service.
Canarsie:
Aside from power upgrades for L service, rerouting of the line to the adjacent freight tracks should be evaluated.
Do check out this map of the new more efficient NYC Subway system accommodating my changes: drive.google.com/open?id=10kqSyWR3XxaVjT9kIjqzOkHZkHHFWwmK&usp=sharing
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Maybe in 2023 it will come back or 2030
Chante Tulloch The V train is still here, just redesignated as the Orange M train. No big deal. It’s just a letter.
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