Elite: Dangerous - Close Encounter With a Black Hole
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2016
- I decide to go on a close approach to a black hole while on deep space survey, to see if I can get inside the optical lensing field. Turns out I can... -- Watch live at / mrmyu
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*sees most dangerous thing in universe*. Ooo Imma Poke it
*screams in pain as body is stretched like spaghetti* i regret nothing.
I AM NOW THE SPAGHET
@@cpt_ardi DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA
HOW FAST I AM?
I'M FAST AS FUCK, BOI!
Humanity in a nut shell really.
I cringed when he was at the 10 megameter point
"This little maneuver is gonna cost us 51 years!"
Interstellar
Great reference
Imagine traversing the galaxy in the future and getting very close to a black hole without realising that you probably won't see your family again because of it (as the very strong gravitational force causes time dilation). Jumps and supercruise use non-relativistic hyperspace but those bad boys may cause some troubles...
Black Holes are one of the few things that genuinely terrify me...
They used to be a lot scarier, but somewhere along the line they became much less lethal to our ships. I just nose booped another one today in the S171 star cluster. Specifically S171 9 B
sharks. and big spiders
It's not at all scary when you realize that by the time you get to see the special effects, you'd be long inside of a star of equivilant mass.
just think, one wrong move and there goes your favorite painting. all sucked up in the blackness.
When I first saw a super nova I damn near shat myself. Was flying my newly bought viper mk 4 with out rebuilt money and thought I was gonna die
Looking at that target hologram: "“Magic mirror, on the wall - who is the densest one of all?”"
''That would be a harem MC''
Very small black hole. Supermassive ones have a nsity comparable with the water sphere of their size. Blackhole radius rise linearly with their mass and not logarithmically like planets. Their entropy is given by the surface of the event horizon. It is very counterintuitive.
It's the tiny super dense ones that are the biggest issue, because black holes.
Funny fact:
Real really large black holes would accelerate you towards them, effectively reducing the distance to them by time dilation effects. One second you are a 100 light seconds away from the horizon, the next second you are 50 light seconds away because of your own time dilation causing Lorenz contraction. Also you would probably be inside the event horizon significantly before you are able to realize you already crosse the event horizon.
That would depend on if your ship is able to handle the extreme gravity. If it could, you could actually pass the event horizon without realizing you had.
That's not the way relativity works. You don't experience the effects of time dilation and length contraction yourself, they're only things observed by another observer in different spacetime geometries.
@@robopiplup5193 Uhm no. That is how it works. The BH moving towards you at relativistic speeds shifts the plane of simultaneousness, which also changes ‘when’ you see a certain space coordinate pass a certain distance.
Too bad time dilation is something that we can't reproduce in a game. For obvious reasons.
@@ZetoBlackproject Why not? Time in a video game is just a malleable as anything else.
"say hello to the physical embodiment of entropy" chills
He kinda pulled that term out of his behind to sound cool. The only entropy in a black hole is its extremely slow evaporation through hawking radiation. It's a very poor example of entropy at play
@@jakevuckturd1201 ah
@@jakevuckturd1201 its not a very poor example. In fact these black holes will be the very last thing this universe sees at the end of its life. Black holes are the very face of entropy
More like cringe
Just fyi, what you see isn't the singularity, but the event horizon.
Nah its just another part of the shitty shader. Black holes are way too undderdeveloped, as they STILL dont have an event horizon.
If you want to see what good black holes really look like, I would recommend Space Engine on Steam.
event horizons have no substance, they aren't a physical object, they are just a threshold that you cross
you wouldn't even notice it at all if you were crossing the event horizon of a particularly massive black hole. a not particularly massive black hole would tear you to shreds, however, due to tidal forces.
A black hole with the mass of Earth would have an event horizon the width of a tennis ball and spaghettify you if you got within a few kilometres of it
@@innsj6369 Close....if you work it out, its a bit smaller even...about 17mm...or just over half an inch😀
The black holes in elite cant kill you, I know. I flew into one so close the game stopped me from getting any closer, sure its scary as hell but wont kill you.
They used to be able to. As you got closer and closer your heat would spike /hard/ and just keep climbing, and if you weren't watching, your ship would melt. That obviously got changed, but around the time I was recording this I'd heard about it, but was still mighty wary.
I don't blame you for being cautious, my first time near a black hole I wanted to get as far away from it as possible. My friend told me quote "No go into it, it wont kill you. Frontier made it that way since no one knows what would truly happen." I was still freaking out but by the time I was at the entrance to it my ship stopped moving forward.
First time i got around 50 ls near maia b i was scared sitless now i can go up to any black ole in ed and it doesn't boter me P.S my |-| key is broken so please don't correct me.
I just thought you meant you were so anxious you couldn't sit down. Works either way ^_-
it should still kill you from the sheer heat though, and spaghettify your ship?
Nice to see a game accurately portraying a blackhole. Blackholes aren't like how they're depicted in the media. They're basically invisible and all you'll see is the light distortion.
Edit: Also realistically, if you're traveling faster than light to warp out, nothing would happen to you since you warped through the black hole.
“Yes, for some reason, i feel the need to get closer to this thing”
Humans have been saying that for millennia and we haven’t exactly had the best success rate with that method lol
Thats how science works.
Yet through that method we managed to domesticate the wolf.
*Interstellar music plays*
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the thing about black holes in elite is that you should normally be able to easily escape one, considering you can go way faster than light
I stumbled right on top of a neutron star in VR (vive). I was standing up admiring the cockpit during hyperspace jump with throttle all the way down expecting to exit nicely next to a star. Scared the crap out of me, never again. Poo came out. 2spooky4me.
VarietyGamer so true it happened to me as well in VR so damn scary!!! Now I am always checking the systems where I am going
You need to try doing a jet cone boost in VR.
Or for the complete opposite end of the spectrum, do the entire trip to Hutton Orbital in VR.
( _my face hurts_ )
“And I don’t Wonna get any closer” *applies throttle*
Why is this me...?
As a person who has a debilitating fear of black holes, this video makes a pit in my stomach
If it's any kind of consolation, the vast majority can't hurt you any more?
MrMyu It's ok, I don't live with daily paranoia. I'm scared of flying close to them in games bc they're big AND it's impossible to tell how close you are to them :)). I've mostly gotten over it tho
Oh, I never meant that. I meant that the ones in Elite are practically harmless now.
I wonder if there's an "eating" black hole in Elite. That'd a great sight to seeing one devouring a star with the accretion disk and matter jets that you might use the same way we use the neutron star matter jets to jump.
Theres not. I wish there were. That would be epic.
@@nightrous3026 Yea would make me roaming through systems in my Chieftain more fun while scanning stuff down
oh my... i think they have changed the apperance of black holes, but still super scary to be that close to it
This is one of the coolest videos and games I've seen ever. Space is so cool even when it's not real space.
Black holes in this game are placeholder objects and poorly represent the real effects one would expect. It's rather sad that the game has been out since 2015 and still vastly underdeveloped in many areas.
Dude chill out. Just because the black hole isn't up to standard, doesn't mean the game is shit.
@@yomansam4689 You chill out? That's not what he said
Would like to see the devs apply the new data we have, especially now that we have seen the pic of the black holes to the game, but they are still pretty good as represented here.
if you supercruise away from a black hole while right next to it, the lensing effect gets really trippy !
Now all I need is a Real Life supercruise drive to see if it acts that way in real life. But we still don't have one... need to file a bug report with reality -_-;
@@MrMyu Stephen Hawking took a tour of the Enterprise D set from Star Trek the Next Generation and while going past the warp core, stopped and said "im working on that"... So who knows. Lol maybe DARPA has some stuff in the works. I mean, the SR-71 was basically alien tech for the time when it was built, especially considering the thing was designed with slide rules. We've got supercomputers now and still don't have a plane that can do what that thing did. Or do we? Remember how long that thing was classified for. To say nothing of the CIAs OXCART.
5:05 NO! this is not the singularity. You can't see the singularity, noone can see the singularity. In essence you can't even "see" a black hole or the event horizon, you can only percieve its presence by the effects the singularity has on light, but for communication simplicity's sake we assume that you see them. The singularity is a collapsed core of a very massive star and the immense gravity bends light to the extent it cannot escape if too close - which is why all there is is a seemingly void ("black") region with light bending around it - and that's the black hole - the visual effect casued by the unseen singularity
Want a cookie Einstein? Or are you going to be bugging about how unrealistic this game is?
NEEEEEERRRRRRDD!!!....
Anybody else watching after first black hole image was taken?
Me lol
for sure me
Present
M87 is a Monster.... Truly a ultra massive black hole.... To try to conceive the mass/weight of such a monster is mind numbing....
@@justinhiggins1214 whatta nerd lmao
Was wary approaching my first black hole because I didn't know if the distance was to the event horizon or center. Wish they had kept things more dangerous with sensors telling you how close you are to EH.
Although the light distortion adds danger as you could accidentally jump into the black hole while trying to escape it.
I was waiting for your atoms to get pulled apart from each other. :p
I just got into ED two days ago. Having a blast so far. I love simulators so I knew what to expect, which I'm sure helps the enjoyment of it. Was great that I could use my cheap car pedals for lateral thrust also.
I'll admit my heart was racing when you were approaching the black hole, just waiting for you to start getting pulled in and have to fight your way back out.
This was really interesting!
No way! Was routing and flying to this exact system when I came across your video while flying :D
Now I am happy knowing other people have the same "ooo lets go there, what's this" thoughts!
8:37 don't ever "D the Black hole", it sucks!!!
What does that mean
love the vibes in the chat log!!
Counting down the kilometers made me think of the announcements during a space shuttle landing
Wow, I used to play Elite for days on end - but that was version 1.0 on the BBC Model B and using a LOT of imagination. But it sure looks good in colour!
Why is it that im sitting here, in my basement watching this video, and my anxity is through the roof?
Truly the most terrifying force to exist.
I kinda miss the pre-FSS days where you had to approach stuff to identify it. I just came back to ED after about 6 years and now you can identify everything in a system in a matter of seconds using your honk-o-scope.
I see where you're coming from but consider this; IRL we're starting to be able to identify the composition of expolanetary atmospheres from hundreds of light years away. It makes sense in a thousand years that we'd be able to ID stuff light seconds or light hours away. Plus to get full credit and payout you still have to approach and use probes, so there's still incentive to do close inspection.
theres something so calming about gameplay of this game.
This is just so freaky in a very cool way!
I wonder what the time slippage you would have experienced was? 🤔
The system map for HIP 63835 looks so odd and funny at the same time XD It is like a star that is flying around an other star, that flying around an other, that flying around a black hole that flying around an other star which has a moon that you can land too and melt your SRV and ship
"this little maneuver is gonna cost us 12 years"
That ones tiny compared to Sagittarius A. I remember that long long trek out to the center to see it and my god was it impressive.
Damn, that's scary. Imagine that thing invading your home.
I see you cruising up to that black hole like a dude walking up to check out a dent on his car.
What would be wild and damn near impossible, is time differences in the game with all the warp and black hole fun.
That little maneuver cost you 51 years.
When a space exploration game scares the shit out of you more than any specifically designed horror game
Well, that's all terrifyingly interesting.
Best game to utilize black holes was Klingon Academy. You'd go into a battle with a stereotypical vortex of debris around the event horizon. There'd be the odd stream of Hawking radiation streaming from the 'poles' of the singularity. At the outskirts, there was little effect. As you got closer, the pull of gravity increasingly affected your movement, debris would damage your system, and your ship could be ripped apart from a surge of energy from the matter moving at such high velocities.
Get too close, and you'd lose all helm control and eventually be heading towards certain destruction at the speed of light. Goofing around with a friend, you could play chicken with the singularity and see who could get closest before having to engage warp to escape. The engines took about 6-7 seconds to power up, so you couldn't get too close.
A black hole is like a cut off on the reel of the movie called real.
That's not the singularity near the center it is a distortion vortex (which only got more distorted as you got closer) so the designers were thinking correctly about the physics involved (though not sure if they used actual GR to modulate the rendering!) ...you can tell as it shifts as you moved laterally...which is a super good touch...you'd never see a naked singularity according to GR theory.
That close, shouldn't the cockpit also be experiencing lens distortion, or had you not fully crossed into the gravity well yet?
What I wish you could do with the black holes is use em as jump points like you can with the pulsars
See the black hole
Be the black hole
and finally, D the black hole
It would be a neat touch if ship clocks lose sync when close to black holes.
Sees most densest object in universe “I shouldn’t go any closer” as they apply more throttle
When i stared playing elite dangerous i was scared of a planets side (that was black), ever since then my hunger for exploring this galaxy will keep going
That actually isnt the singularity, it is the schwartschild radius of the black hole (or rather the event horizon)
I got one word: SPAGHETTIFICATION!
I hate how the lensing increases exponentially as you get really close, you never really notice how big it really is until you're right ontop of it. (even though black holes are tiny, it's just their gravitational influence that isn't).
1:07 Uhh, did the ship's computer respond to your voice?
Yeah. Program called VoiceAttack which has some seriously deep integration with Elite if you pick it up, but it will work for any windows program, game or otherwise, if you set it up right. It'll give replies, confirmations, smart-assed answers. Anything you can think of.
It's a shame they can't simulate time dialation
Time would still be relative to the user
I fallen asleep waiting for you to finally say what the damn fuzzy theory is instead beating around the bush
Elite: Dangerous is a horror game to me
"DAMN YOU SUN!"
-VR experience reaction from UpIsNotJump
That gold hud accenting is amazing. What setting did you use to get that?
If you use ED Profiler on the PC, these are the color matrix settings I used:
0.05, 0.22, 0.43
0.09, 0.44, 0
1, 0, 0
Black holes are so weird. I went on a little expedition looking for black holes, I have my name on a few dozen of them between the bubble and SagA. They still freak me out even though they do pretty much nothing... I always feel the need to keep them away from black backgrounds. I have a short clip of me accidentally passing through one in SC on that expedition.
This game looks amazing... can't believe I'm just now hearing about it. How many hours have you spent in game?
Roundabout 3,000 hours. There's a lot of space to explore out there, and a lot of pirates close to home. ... Well... fewer than there used to be... >: )
reminds me a little of Starpoint Gemini
It gets old.
you legit have to have 0% life in order to do anything in this game. its a slllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooow game
@@iinfynitebeats I agree I got it on ps4pro and just the main loading screen takes 5 min roughly to get to the start menu. It's a very expansive and awe inspiring experience. However most gamers won't get to experience the potential it has to offer either because it gets boring or become impatient for the worthwhile moments in between the dull ones.
It might've been this game or another one but I got trapped in the gravity well of a star cause the escape vector wasn't really well defined.
Blavk hole won't kill you, but the fear of it would. Eugh unknown is terrifying
I just started playing ED this week. I love how there is so much to do.... Tho the controls have been a bit tricky for me im getting use to them, but any-who, Ive been bounty hunting for cash and began messing around with smuggling... Smuggling is fun, but exploration seems something else I would be very into
There's tons to do, and your approach to it: trying a little bit of everything, seems to be the best way to not get burnt out on it. If you have any questions, this is a decent place to ask, and if me or the other viewers don't know the answer, we can probably get you pointed towards a place that does. o7
Thanks :) Its a good thing the person who got me playing it has been playing since its release, or beta, not sure, but he is very knowledgeable. i have to say i love smuggling when you go into silent running how the police are just like... oh ...well there was a ship there, oh well...lol
Were you literally saying "system map" and the ship AI brought it up!? That's awesome!
It's not built into the game itself, it's a program called VoiceAttack, but it has some deep, deeep integration with Elite. You can use it for any game, any program, as long as you have windows and shortcut keys.
Thanks for the info, I'll check if it can be used in some games I'm playing, cheers!
i used to use a similar program when playing star trek online. It was fun giving orders to my 'crew' and seeing it happen. But not particularly efficient there. so i stopped using it after the novelty wore out.
Close encounters of the ŠŪCC kind.
Stars are millions of years old, and black holes are the corpse of a dead star, so black holes are 18+ and a legal ŠŪCC
That moment you turn off flight assistance next to a black hole. Probably won't do anything but I am curious.
Great content btw
The X-ray is her siren song
my ship cannot resist her long
nearer to my deadly goal
until the black hole
gains control
Game: Look a nice black hole
Black Hole: *No black whatshowever*
Me: Visible confusion
I maintain that gravitational effects should hinder supercruise and hyperspace capabilities. The way a Beluga liner too close increases the time it takes to spool up your supercruise, and mass puts a speed limit on your supercruise, masses should also increase the time and fuel consumption of a jump, on top of perhaps very heavy objects being very close causing some turbulence and doing some damage. Jumping from a black hole shouldn't be so easy!
(For a benchmark, perhaps if the supercruise speed limit is under 1C, jumping is very costly and destructive, but anything above 10C is almost completely indistinguishable from taking no damage or mass penalties to jumping at all)
This game looks really awesome and how come I’ve never seen this video game before? Also you earned a sub
Thank you kindly! Been out for a couple years now, but they're still supporting and updating. This year's going to be rather big for it.
What's the game
Elite: Dangerous
YAYVIDEOGAMES * this game failed commercially, but people who do find it usually love it
id get it on PC. i bought it on XBONE and havent really played it. it is just too damned much for a controller
Black holes are scary on my console, on a tv ten feet from me.
Black holes are really scary on my pc monitor not even a foot from my face.
Just picked up VR...
What game is this and is on ps4 and Xbox?
@@kaneluca4879 This is Elite Dangerous and you can get it for either console
@@chilliewhk whats the plot/goal
Or is it more sandbox orientated
@@kaneluca4879 it's a sandbox. But it has our galaxy in a 1 to 1 scale, so it's amazing if you really enjoy space sims and sci-fi
I did this in vr, it was the coolest thing ever.
06:14 oh go on....you know you want to!
I'm getting ready to jump into this game for the first time wish me luck but otherwise loved the vid
The more I see this game, the more I want the ability to construct small bases...
Actually, I think a black hole this size would have inescapably pulled you towards it at that distance. Or maybe 483 km was the outer reach of the event horizon?
And is gravity distortion really visible like this?
483km would be the outer reach of the event horizon. In pretty much any game that simulates black holes, the 3D object used to represent the black hole is based on the event horizon, not the singularity. A singularity is an infinitesimally small point and it's not like you'd see it anyway.
You'd implode before you'd get sucked in
Life through a frenzel lense
a medida que as outras estrelas vão se aproximando do buraco negro, o disco de acreção vai puxando todo o material da heliosfera destas estrelas, como se fossem jatos de energia, só que para dentro do disco de acreção e depois para dentro do horizonte de eventos até que toda a massa absorvida aumenta a massa do buraco negro em proporções bem malignas.
If I'm not mistaken I think you meant to say gravitational distortion not gravitational lensing. Gravitational lensing is when a source of light appears to become many sources or a ring of light due to diffraction of it around a large stellar body.
Black holes cause gravitational lensing, because they're so impossibly dense they act like a body MUCH larger but without the matter to make the lensing less prominent.
What is this game called cause that footage looks absolutely amazing
Elite:dangerouse
Unintelligent Chad Elite: Dangerous
Darude sandstorm
i jumped to a system with a black hole... left hyperspace... black hole was right in front of the arrivla star and put me way too close to it... dropped me out of supercruise as well.... trying to leave almost burned me up (110% heat)
🧢
When a space anomaly looks like the eye of Sauron, that's my queue to GTFO! ... Props to this pilot though, I wouldn't have the balls to approach it.
(Chants while holding thick book about physics) The power of physics compels you! The power of physics compels you! The power of physics compels you!
Goddamn shoutout to the Elite Dangerous develloper
Wait so what do the little fuzzy systems have special vs a normal system?
High-energy stars like at least one O-Class. Or lots of stars. Generally something unusual. HIP 63835 has that triple black hole cluster. HIP 38064 has a monster O-Class with binary ringed planets so close you can scoop fuel on the way down to land.
One day I will get this close to a black hole. Right now been playing for 2 weeks and just happy to be in my cobra mkIII
Common Logics oh apparently they cant kill you
Could you link your HUD color code? love the color scheme you have. Tried doing it manually. :) plz & Thank You
0.05, 0.22, 0.430.09, 0.44, 01, 0, 0
absolute legend, thanks
what happens if you fly into it? do you get slain by that?
So, in a ship with weak jump drives you'd probably overheat, since your ship's engines are trying to un-bend the bent space around the black hole. But if you have strong enough engines, you just boop into it. But I have seen overheats around Sag A* at the galaxy's core.
NERD HEAVEN...YAY!
Not only gravitational lensing, but also time effects should be noticeable that close to the black hole.
Yeah, but try coding that for the game... XD
Pretty tiny black hole, but still neat
In my time playing, I never encountered anything like this - just from watching, it felt terrifying! Pirates are nothing on the fear factor compared to this!
You should have went further , you hit a body explusion zone and the lensing is absolutely great while exiting the black hole. Maia's explusion zone is 24 km sth
Oh, yeah. I call it nose booping the black hole. This video was my very first attempt, right after I'd learned that they'd nerfed the black holes. It used to be that they were a lot more dangerous. Your heat would shoot through the roof as the FSD tried to maintain a stable bubble of space round the ship. So I tried for a close approach, but I was still wary... these days, I'm a lot more brave about close approaches.
I forget the system name, but I found one with a 90 something Km exclusion zone
When I heard about black holes being in ED as well I hoped they’d be scary as shit pulling you into them to the point of your ship getting torn apart if you got too close. Kinda disappointed but also still wow. Just damn cool.
If you launch a fighter while you're in a black hole, the shields overload trying to protect the fighter, then it burns up and basically has its internals ripped apart, because it's missing a Frame Shift Drive.
Black holes ARE scary, but our ships are just that much more powerful. All of the travel technology is based around bending space, and it does it a lot better than black holes. The FSD is actually projecting a bubble of un-bent space around the ship that's protecting it from the tidal forces.
Think of it this way: The most powerful black hole in the universe can still only accelerate matter to 99.9999% the speed of light. You could go to any starship dealer you want, plop down a handful of credits, and get a ship that busts the speed of light wide open in low gear, totally stock.
@@MrMyu truuueeee good point! Completely forgot about being able to go thousand times the speed of light in this game lol. Still I dont think I can get used to them just being so.. "peaceful" in how they act on us and look in the game - I just kinda expected them to basically be the neutron star's big brother in terms of scary. Schwarzschild radii, accretion discs and the disc jets I guess can be debated about until we know more about actual black holes >->
Love when people do this game justice. Subbed and notifed.
So is this game for ps4? Is the gameplay any good? I'm considering buying it from amazon.
It's for PS4, PC, Xbox. I don't know much about the PS4 version since I fly it on PC, but I think it's very good. I'm at over 4,000 hours flying, and I'm still finding new stuff. Combat, trade, mercenary work, exploration. It's got it all.
@@MrMyu, ok I just wanted to be sure this isnt some kind of exclusive version or mod. I'm into games like this and so far I have no mans sky. I originally thought elite dangerous was a PC exclusive so I didn't really look into it. I found a physical copy on amazon recently for 20 dollars so I'm definitely considering buying. Thank you for sparking my interest.