I bought one of these a year ago pretty much off of your review of it. I'll be finishing up a lot of 2.5k rounds through it while I am off for Christmas Break. I reload and have been running a Lee 124gr TC bullet that I cast from wheel weights and Powder coat. I have used 3.8grs of Tightgroup exclusively with this bullet in this pistol. That's all that has been fed through it save for some Ranger T +p to show function. It's been a pretty good gun. It got it with the brace but I have been using a single point sling off the rear lately and like it better pushing it out. I have both the curved mags and 2 of the straight ones that came with it. All of the mags I have run great. I'd like to try one of their more traditional pistols for range use and just for the hell of it.
Thank you for the great review. It helps me a ton when I need to put mine back together after cleaning. I have the SPA3 with the straight mags with the metal on top. I had frequent jamming due to the design of the mags. Global Ordinance replaced all three mags, at no cost, with ones that are curved and I haven't had a single jam or misfire since. Their customer service has been great--something you rarely find these. Keep up the good work!
Just bought mine (SP9A3S) and took possesion of it today. I keep taking this firearm apart to just get famliliar with it and especially the operating system. This really is a fantastic gun. Dry firing 40 times I felt the trigger was satisfactory and AR'sh. After shooting 20 rounds or so the trigger felt completely different, (enough that I stopped firing) the little bit of "mush" before the break completly disappeared. The trigger lightened a bit and smoothed itself out to be an amazing trigger after 100 rounds. Mags are solid feeling and no concerns there (curved). Refined and amazing gun. Great review and field strip, thanks!
One more thing.. So I understand the straight mags are a problem but what about the 20 rounder's?? I would like to run a few of the 20 round mags for vehicle/storage.. any idea how they run?
@shanehoward4197 most of the "problems" with the straight mags were caused by the owners. Don't smash the mag in on a closed bolt and Don't smack up on the magazines like someone who can't tell if they've seared a mag. The fix with the curve mags isn't the curve as much as it is the overrated stop bump they molded on the spine of the magazine.
This A3 is awful. I have had 2 of the A3’s since they came out. Both had chronic malfunction issues. A downgrade from the A1 for sure. Thought I had bad luck until I researched it on youtube. Chronic issues with other owners as well. I would rather have the internals from the A1 inside the A3, but it can’t be switched. Removal of the ejector rod from the buffer in the A3 design was a major mistake.
Put two magazines through my A3 yesterday. Recoil impulse is pleasant. I think it looks cool. Magazines suck to load, trigger is mediocre at best, bolt release needs the HBI upgrade. If it doesn't make 500 rounds without a hiccup I'll sell it and get a better gun. Lots of reliability issues with the new design. If I don't have issues, I'll keep it and do something with the trigger and switch bolt releases.
Superior review! Just subscribed to your channel. One improvement Stribog could make is to come up with a way to retain the roller delay pin so that it does not fall out and get lost when the bolt carrier assembly is out of the gun. MP5 rollers are retained as you probably know.
Nice!! I just bought the 2nd gen stribog.. My first subgun. Would love the new one, but its very hard to get. I wonder if the new mags would fit the last gen?
Great review. I had one of the detainer springs come off the front pin between upper/lower. It does not look simple to reinstall. Do you know any resources where I can learn to reinstall?
I wonder if Grand Power will sell a retro fit like to make A1’s roller delayed as well that would be interesting and they can have my money now for a retro kit
Hold on, looking at that roller-delayed bolt... it looks like it could just drop into one of the newer A1 Stribogs (my model is one of the newer A1's that has that same single-rod buffer as the A3). Is there any noticeable internal structural changes between an A1 and A3?? The upgrade being that simple would be heavenly
It does look very similar. I got the A2 and the only difference I can see is the front end of the bcg. I know it’s more than that but hopefully someone can produce a conversion kit.
Andrew Ryan well it’s technically still an A1 but they have eliminated and extra rod that attaches from the 3 piece buffer to the bcg. The New version/ 2nd gen “A2” has a 1 piece buffer pad and a captivated recoil spring. I read here and there that this was done to have it be compatible with the A3’s roller delayed system. From what I’ve seen on some videos and pictures, they seem like they’d be interchangeable. How true this is, well I don’t know but there are very strong similarities.
Man I’m picky about breakdowns lol it was driving me nuts watching him fumble so many things dropping that roller was about to give me a tick 😂 😆 😝 I would have redone the whole video just to make it smooth lol but very good review actually.
I perform this with everything about two feet in front of me and while watching the camera monitor, not my hands. That makes things a bit challenging, but I don't refilm anything, prefer to show folks reality. The same is true for our shooting videos. You see our first shots, and everything is done unscripted, no re-takes.
200 rounds in to my SP9 A3. Gun busted. I think the recoil spring is broken but not sure. Back to grand power then to gunbroker it goes. Too bad, recoil impulse was quite nice.
@@GBGuns . My bolt won't go forward after pulling the charging handle back. If I jerk it back hard it will go forward home. Joe at Global Ordnance said it may be the rod or spring.
@@popolino9 the action was calibrated for European 9mm which is a little hotter than most of what we plink with in the US. We havea video coming explaining this. The MP5 has the same issue.
I've been waiting for this gen3 stribog to come out before deciding between it or the AKV but after watching mr.gunsngear video on this it seemed pretty disappointing. Especially with the bullets falling back into the gun and fouling it up if you dont point it down when you clear the jam.
You can even stop an AK by doing the same thing, tilt the barrel up and roll the gun to the left, then charge it slowly. I think he had a brain fart, MAC did the same thing.
That issue was addressed on the AKV and was brought up on previous generations of the Stribog. The new generation of mags seems like it’s going to have issues as well based off my experiences with the Prepper Gun Shop/Manticore mags of a similar design for the CZ scorpion. The plastic tabs holding on the feed lips will break causing the steel to separate from the plastic body. That roller should also be retained instead of instantly falling out of the gun during disassembly. Seems like it is also extremely susceptible to filth entering the system around the roller. I was extremely excited for this thing, but now I’m just disappointed about all the wasted potential.
If your still wondering lol My SP9A3 doesn’t like HP or flat nose ammo aka FMJ-FN… lol I HAVE to use FMJ’s…. one problem that only happened once was… it tried to double feed but the second round flipped around and got jammed down back behind the bolt preventing you from pulling the charging handle… so I opened it up and could see the bullet was jammed facing me but! I never had that happen again and I still love this little gun lol
So, I just watched Sage Dynamics review of the A3. He had lots of problems after his signature mag dumps. I don't plan on running mine like he does, but I would like to know if there has been a response?
I hadn't seen it before, and don't know if there's any official response. Things that I noticed is he used mostly 115gr, if his gun had the original locker in it that could cause issues. I also noticed he likes to smack his mags on a closed bolt. That damages feed lips and can cause cycling and feeding issues.
two questions, can you put the a3 bolt into the a1 or is there something different in the receiver? And have you tested the stribog drum yet? or even heard of it? It looks like f5 makes the only one.
They can import the 22, but it takes the importer applying for import, plus export permission, plus waiting for the ATF to approve. Check out the videos from Our visit and you'll see some cool stuff
We're working on it. We took it out once with limited ammo and had some hiccups, we want to make sure it's not us first and we're waiting on more ammo.
Technically this isn't a roller delayed gun. The bolt face twists before the bolt moves to the rear, no rollers as in an H-K MP5 or one of it's clones.
but it's a rolling pin that delays it.... This is not the same "rollers" like on the MP5, but it is still a roller. Not roller-locked, but roller-delayed
@@RpMcMurphy_ If anything direct blowback has potential for better longevity as it has fewer moving parts and fewer parts that need to remain in spec. Their big drawback is they are louder and have more recoil over a delayed blowback.
Question. In one of your videos you shot magtech 92.6 hollow point from your stribog. I believe you shot 3 rounds and it ran fine. Have you ran anymore of that specific ammo? I have been seeing mentions of failures with certain hollow points in forums. I just scored about six boxes of these but haven't ran them yet due to ammo shortages. If they dont run well I will probably end up trading them off for price equivalent in ball. Anyone else's input on the matter would be greatly appreciated also.
How did you get the thread protector off? I just picked up the Gen 3 and the thread protector will NOT budge. My Gen 2 came off fairly easy but this SOB won't budge.
I'm selling mine unless someone can tell me how to easily load the magazines??? I've had many guns but I've never had such a struggle. Am I doing something wrong?
Try putting the cartridges in horizontally to the barrel. Also make sure they face the target and not the shooter. "Ahem"(HK 90S CATALOG). I'm sorry i can't help it!
@@GBGuns yes, I am bound to Prievidza, Slovakia. Have traveled back and forth unknown times. For me it's like going back and forth from Seattle to Spokane. May become my permanent home.
*MAN* that roller just wouldn’t stay in! LOL Does having 3 Stribog’s make you 3x’s as cool?? I jealously say yes 😉 Looking forward to the range video, and What’s For Dinner (you know you want to) testing!
I hope you're not a US citizen. We were supposed to go next week but Shengen is not very US friendly at the moment. We hadtockets for six months and had to cancel
Hey man, I think you got the roller delay mechanism backwards. When the bolt closes, that forward piece continues forward and the pin drops down into a groove. This locks the bolt in place, with the pin down, and it leaves a gap between the BCG and that separate piece. When firing, the delay comes from that pin needing to move upwards. Because the cam surface on the forward piece is angled, it gets pulled close to the BCG again, closing the gap, and letting the pin move upwards and out of the groove. The same is why the charging handle works: you pull it, and it pushes the gap between the forward piece and the BCG together. Which allows the pin to get out of the way. Great video otherwise!
I bought one of these a year ago pretty much off of your review of it. I'll be finishing up a lot of 2.5k rounds through it while I am off for Christmas Break. I reload and have been running a Lee 124gr TC bullet that I cast from wheel weights and Powder coat. I have used 3.8grs of Tightgroup exclusively with this bullet in this pistol. That's all that has been fed through it save for some Ranger T +p to show function. It's been a pretty good gun. It got it with the brace but I have been using a single point sling off the rear lately and like it better pushing it out. I have both the curved mags and 2 of the straight ones that came with it. All of the mags I have run great. I'd like to try one of their more traditional pistols for range use and just for the hell of it.
That intro was such a hard flex to watch! Good for you! Us poor citizens are just waiting on availability. Get em and they'll sell.
Thank you for the great review. It helps me a ton when I need to put mine back together after cleaning. I have the SPA3 with the straight mags with the metal on top. I had frequent jamming due to the design of the mags. Global Ordinance replaced all three mags, at no cost, with ones that are curved and I haven't had a single jam or misfire since. Their customer service has been great--something you rarely find these. Keep up the good work!
Thank you, thank you, thank you, for pronouncing Stribog right. Thumbs up immediately before 20 seconds in the video.
Just bought mine (SP9A3S) and took possesion of it today. I keep taking this firearm apart to just get famliliar with it and especially the operating system. This really is a fantastic gun. Dry firing 40 times I felt the trigger was satisfactory and AR'sh. After shooting 20 rounds or so the trigger felt completely different, (enough that I stopped firing) the little bit of "mush" before the break completly disappeared. The trigger lightened a bit and smoothed itself out to be an amazing trigger after 100 rounds. Mags are solid feeling and no concerns there (curved). Refined and amazing gun. Great review and field strip, thanks!
One more thing.. So I understand the straight mags are a problem but what about the 20 rounder's?? I would like to run a few of the 20 round mags for vehicle/storage.. any idea how they run?
@shanehoward4197 most of the "problems" with the straight mags were caused by the owners. Don't smash the mag in on a closed bolt and Don't smack up on the magazines like someone who can't tell if they've seared a mag. The fix with the curve mags isn't the curve as much as it is the overrated stop bump they molded on the spine of the magazine.
My wife is Slovak and doesn't want me to get one. Going to anyway. She will get jealous if I play with it for sure.
Tell her: Nerob drahoty draha
This A3 is awful. I have had 2 of the A3’s since they came out. Both had chronic malfunction issues. A downgrade from the A1 for sure. Thought I had bad luck until I researched it on youtube. Chronic issues with other owners as well. I would rather have the internals from the A1 inside the A3, but it can’t be switched. Removal of the ejector rod from the buffer in the A3 design was a major mistake.
@@patjoslin4087 crap I was looking at them today on gunzone, they finally got some in stock
Which ammo were you using?
I have the A2 and love it .
Same
I hope they’re going to restock soon... I missed that Friday recent release to only 3 shops 🤦♂️
East Valley Tactical has a preorder available for a great price
Chances are high, that this in the 4.5 inch version will be my next gun purchase
Love my A3 very cool nice dependable gun
Put two magazines through my A3 yesterday. Recoil impulse is pleasant. I think it looks cool. Magazines suck to load, trigger is mediocre at best, bolt release needs the HBI upgrade. If it doesn't make 500 rounds without a hiccup I'll sell it and get a better gun. Lots of reliability issues with the new design. If I don't have issues, I'll keep it and do something with the trigger and switch bolt releases.
Did you have the SP9A1? Or other 9mm “pistols”? How does the recoil compare?
Just got mine, those mag sprints are stiffer than a Scotsman at a sheep festival.
Superior review! Just subscribed to your channel. One improvement Stribog could make is to come up with a way to retain the roller delay pin so that it does not fall out and get lost when the bolt carrier assembly is out of the gun. MP5 rollers are retained as you probably know.
This should be really good 💪💯💯🎯
Awesome! When can we expect the “What’s for dinner? test” footage to drop?
Looks like a polished design. Eagerly awaiting reliability and durability trials.
Nice!! I just bought the 2nd gen stribog.. My first subgun. Would love the new one, but its very hard to get. I wonder if the new mags would fit the last gen?
Great review. I had one of the detainer springs come off the front pin between upper/lower. It does not look simple to reinstall. Do you know any resources where I can learn to reinstall?
I had the rear one come out at some point. It wasn't easy to get back in. I've forgotten what I did.
Great review sir.
My question is .. have the problems been fixed already? Looking to purchase one from my local shop
man you gots the best job 👍💥✌💥✌
I'm not a professional RUclipsr, I still have a regular job.
They should make a 5.56 or 7.62x39 assault rifle with that roller delayed blowback system.
HK did that in the 60s
Whats an assault rifle?
@@mkultra6664 Sturmgewehr
@@Jordan-nc3zy not this roller delayed blowback mechanism. HK used rollers. Grand Power uses a cam.
I wonder if Grand Power will sell a retro fit like to make A1’s roller delayed as well that would be interesting and they can have my money now for a retro kit
Where can I get the blocks from?
Can wait to get the new one that takes glock mags the 3 G
Great if you're a Glock shooter
No recoil 😳
100% Super star gun
Does it fire with the brace closed? It looks like the brace would block the ejection post.
Yes, it does!
Hold on, looking at that roller-delayed bolt... it looks like it could just drop into one of the newer A1 Stribogs (my model is one of the newer A1's that has that same single-rod buffer as the A3). Is there any noticeable internal structural changes between an A1 and A3?? The upgrade being that simple would be heavenly
It does look very similar. I got the A2 and the only difference I can see is the front end of the bcg. I know it’s more than that but hopefully someone can produce a conversion kit.
Abel Morales What defines an A2, if I may ask?
Andrew Ryan well it’s technically still an A1 but they have eliminated and extra rod that attaches from the 3 piece buffer to the bcg. The New version/ 2nd gen “A2” has a 1 piece buffer pad and a captivated recoil spring. I read here and there that this was done to have it be compatible with the A3’s roller delayed system. From what I’ve seen on some videos and pictures, they seem like they’d be interchangeable. How true this is, well I don’t know but there are very strong similarities.
Man I’m picky about breakdowns lol it was driving me nuts watching him fumble so many things dropping that roller was about to give me a tick 😂 😆 😝 I would have redone the whole video just to make it smooth lol but very good review actually.
I perform this with everything about two feet in front of me and while watching the camera monitor, not my hands. That makes things a bit challenging, but I don't refilm anything, prefer to show folks reality. The same is true for our shooting videos. You see our first shots, and everything is done unscripted, no re-takes.
200 rounds in to my SP9 A3. Gun busted. I think the recoil spring is broken but not sure. Back to grand power then to gunbroker it goes. Too bad, recoil impulse was quite nice.
We're having issues with ours as well, working on figuring out what the problem is before we make a video on it.
@@GBGuns . My bolt won't go forward after pulling the charging handle back. If I jerk it back hard it will go forward home. Joe at Global Ordnance said it may be the rod or spring.
@@GBGuns Any updates on this? I just got mine ... love the recoil impulse but have had issues with stovepiping in my first 200 rounds. Any ideas ?
@@popolino9 the action was calibrated for European 9mm which is a little hotter than most of what we plink with in the US. We havea video coming explaining this. The MP5 has the same issue.
I've been waiting for this gen3 stribog to come out before deciding between it or the AKV but after watching mr.gunsngear video on this it seemed pretty disappointing. Especially with the bullets falling back into the gun and fouling it up if you dont point it down when you clear the jam.
You can even stop an AK by doing the same thing, tilt the barrel up and roll the gun to the left, then charge it slowly. I think he had a brain fart, MAC did the same thing.
That issue was addressed on the AKV and was brought up on previous generations of the Stribog. The new generation of mags seems like it’s going to have issues as well based off my experiences with the Prepper Gun Shop/Manticore mags of a similar design for the CZ scorpion. The plastic tabs holding on the feed lips will break causing the steel to separate from the plastic body. That roller should also be retained instead of instantly falling out of the gun during disassembly. Seems like it is also extremely susceptible to filth entering the system around the roller. I was extremely excited for this thing, but now I’m just disappointed about all the wasted potential.
I need one 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Does it feed hollow point and flat nose ammo well? I know that’s an issue for a lot of PCC guns.
I know my Karrie"s AR-9 doesn't feed hollow point, it's a ball ammo only kind of piece of shit.
If your still wondering lol My SP9A3 doesn’t like HP or flat nose ammo aka FMJ-FN… lol I HAVE to use FMJ’s…. one problem that only happened once was… it tried to double feed but the second round flipped around and got jammed down back behind the bolt preventing you from pulling the charging handle… so I opened it up and could see the bullet was jammed facing me but! I never had that happen again and I still love this little gun lol
We've got several videos showing what it feeds
I am excited for the "whats for dinner" on the A3!
So, I just watched Sage Dynamics review of the A3. He had lots of problems after his signature mag dumps. I don't plan on running mine like he does, but I would like to know if there has been a response?
I hadn't seen it before, and don't know if there's any official response. Things that I noticed is he used mostly 115gr, if his gun had the original locker in it that could cause issues. I also noticed he likes to smack his mags on a closed bolt. That damages feed lips and can cause cycling and feeding issues.
...I've been saying it wrong this whole time and NOBODY CORRECTED ME XD
A lot of RUclipsrs say it wrong too, it's only because I've been there and visited Slovakia that I knew
two questions, can you put the a3 bolt into the a1 or is there something different in the receiver? And have you tested the stribog drum yet? or even heard of it? It looks like f5 makes the only one.
I'm guessing that the charging handle pushes on the the bolt carrier just below the locking part that sticks out in the front, correct?
Correct. And it's easy to reverse the charging handle to the right side for us lefties or non-dominant eye folks.
Question. Can I put in the JP 3.5 lbs trigger spring kit?
flexin on that intro lol
If you could find a way to get the Stribog Taranis 22lr, I'd love you forever. I want one. 😺
We played with some non US models on our last visit. We were supposed to visit last year but Controlavirus blocked US citizens from visiting.
They can import the 9mm but not the 22. Puzzling.
They can import the 22, but it takes the importer applying for import, plus export permission, plus waiting for the ATF to approve. Check out the videos from Our visit and you'll see some cool stuff
Which pistol brace have you found to be the most ergonomic option on the Stribog?
That's a personal preference.
@@GBGuns which model have you found to be the most comfortable?
My favorite is a Matador Arms Sidewinder and an SB brace
What will the range review video come out??
We're working on it. We took it out once with limited ammo and had some hiccups, we want to make sure it's not us first and we're waiting on more ammo.
@@GBGuns ok great! Ammo is hard to come by!
So wait, you're a Grand Power fanboy? Hehehe...
Technically this isn't a roller delayed gun. The bolt face twists before the bolt moves to the rear, no rollers as in an H-K MP5 or one of it's clones.
but it's a rolling pin that delays it.... This is not the same "rollers" like on the MP5, but it is still a roller. Not roller-locked, but roller-delayed
I stand corrected, thank you for your information.
@@RpMcMurphy_ If anything direct blowback has potential for better longevity as it has fewer moving parts and fewer parts that need to remain in spec. Their big drawback is they are louder and have more recoil over a delayed blowback.
Question. In one of your videos you shot magtech 92.6 hollow point from your stribog. I believe you shot 3 rounds and it ran fine. Have you ran anymore of that specific ammo? I have been seeing mentions of failures with certain hollow points in forums. I just scored about six boxes of these but haven't ran them yet due to ammo shortages. If they dont run well I will probably end up trading them off for price equivalent in ball. Anyone else's input on the matter would be greatly appreciated also.
These are meant to run ball ammo
Incorrect
We did not run those Magtech because we are out of it. We buy all of this ammo and it gets quite expensive.
How did you get the thread protector off? I just picked up the Gen 3 and the thread protector will NOT budge. My Gen 2 came off fairly easy but this SOB won't budge.
Mine needed a little convincing
Get a bit of heat on it….
My only complaint is that the magazines are not interchangeable with the pistol ones
I agree with you on that one, I forgot the reason they told me they didn't just stick with standard GP magazines.
@@GBGuns I would love to know that. May I say, would be great if they make new lowers or some kind of adaptor
I bought my stribog a month ago. I've had 4 mags crack and break. 2 broke from just having them loaded. The old mags are junk.
How do you remove the charging handle to move it to the other side for a lefty?
With the backplate off to release spring pressure pull the charging handle back to the round opening, then pull.
What Graham said, but it might need a tap with a brass or plastic punch to get it out.
I'm selling mine unless someone can tell me how to easily load the magazines??? I've had many guns but I've never had such a struggle. Am I doing something wrong?
you must be, these are the easiest mags to load....just push straight down
was referring to the A1, don't know a bout the new mags, sorry
Try putting the cartridges in horizontally to the barrel. Also make sure they face the target and not the shooter. "Ahem"(HK 90S CATALOG).
I'm sorry i can't help it!
How did you like Slovakia?
I love Slovakia, it wasn't my first trip there. I lived in Europe for seven years
@@GBGuns yes, I am bound to Prievidza, Slovakia. Have traveled back and forth unknown times. For me it's like going back and forth from Seattle to Spokane. May become my permanent home.
*MAN* that roller just wouldn’t stay in! LOL Does having 3 Stribog’s make you 3x’s as cool?? I jealously say yes 😉 Looking forward to the range video, and What’s For Dinner (you know you want to) testing!
I definitely do, there are some small design changes that make me wonder if it'll run as well as the A1s
I know you and Teya are really busy, but I bet you will both enjoy it! Has she had a chance to try the Stribog yet?
Yes, she shot it went we did the mega What's For Dinner test of 27 loads to show how well the guns run.
AUSTRIA is only across the lawn, why didn't they use glocks mags?
Forgotten weapons has a good video about double stack/ double feed vs double stack /single feed mags
@@bnctmac I am heading to Slovakia on November 6th I will personally ask why no glock mags.
I hope you're not a US citizen. We were supposed to go next week but Shengen is not very US friendly at the moment. We hadtockets for six months and had to cancel
@@GBGuns my wife is Slovak I am a US citizen
Lucky! We didn't have time for a 14 day quarantine.
Will someone please tell me what the name "Grand Power" means?
Great force, large ability, check out a thesaurus and a dictionary.
"Grand" meaning great, good, enormous, "Power" meaning not weak, strong, able. Basically says buy me, I'm not liberal.
Why put a buffer tube brace on a firearm that donr have a buffer tube 🤦♂️...pdw is the ONLY way for a stribog
Hey man, I think you got the roller delay mechanism backwards.
When the bolt closes, that forward piece continues forward and the pin drops down into a groove. This locks the bolt in place, with the pin down, and it leaves a gap between the BCG and that separate piece. When firing, the delay comes from that pin needing to move upwards. Because the cam surface on the forward piece is angled, it gets pulled close to the BCG again, closing the gap, and letting the pin move upwards and out of the groove.
The same is why the charging handle works: you pull it, and it pushes the gap between the forward piece and the BCG together. Which allows the pin to get out of the way. Great video otherwise!
Yes, but I can't demonstrate that by pushing, that's why i said, "but it's of course the reverse"
Get a scorpion 🦂
Is the A3 BCG interchangeable with the A1 gen 2 BCG?
This was the question I wanted to ask. I have a gen2 but was wondering if I could just purchase this and swap them out
No they are not