Grand Power SP9A3 Self Defense Pistol || A3 Stribog VS Stribog A1
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2020
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This is the most comprehensive video I’ve seen showing in practice not only the A3 but also the difference between the A1 and A3. Great help for people looking to buy either one. Kudos guys! Instant sub for me!
I agreed with you 🤝
Awesome Awesome! You guys never disappoint with your content!! I get my A3 in Multi-Cam anyday now.
good info
What a thorough and great review- subd
Great video!
Great review really informative
@14:00... "That is the first time I hit the hostage correctly"....LOL... I know what you meant, just sounded funny...
have you guys tried the ets rifle cam loader? great for loading pcc double stack mags. works with colt smg mags, mp5 mags, scorpion mags, etc
I think the reliability of the A1 outweighs the softer recoil of the A3.
I agree, reliability is everything with a firearm. Too many problems with the A3.
Good2know👍
Was the gen 2 having issues with the 147 jhp? If recoil or suppressor use wasn't a issue, would the early version be the same in reliability?
So the SP9A3 has about 25% less recoil than the SP9A1. Exactly what I was curious about!
But can introduce failure to eject/reset issues especially if you change the lower to the Scorpion Mag or Glock Mag compatible ones that can have AR-15 triggers installed. So if you going to mod it get a SP9A1.
The other thing that people don't talked about in the direct vs. delayed blowback debate is the longevity of parts. Direct blowback is significantly more violent on parts and often cause part failures at much lower round counts. This is the open secret in the competitive world.
Cans do influence the velocity of the round, it just depends on what kind of pressure youre working with. Ask anyone shooting in the PRS, or do velocity testing yourself with a higher powered rifle, adding a suppressor to the end of a precision rifle can increase the bullet velocity by about 25-75 feet per second. Granted its a small advantage, and usually isnt the reason why competitors will use one, but it needs to be taken into consideration at some ranges. I shoot with several guys who use suppressors on their match rigs in order to mitigate the felt "pressure wave" and recoil of their rifles to help them keep from blinking or flinching after firing so that they can spot their hits, and the added FPS gain is a cherry on top. Lots of videos here on utube demonstrate what velocity gains can be had from putting a can on a full sized rifle. Barrel length is far more influencial in this context though, i just figured id let people know!
Very True
Yes please.
Would you recommend the Stribog over the CMMG PCC pistols?
That obsidian was crazy
It's a beautiful thing, 9mm goodness, carry on.
Your flash suppressor works really well on the A3
Primary arms had some A1s on preorder a couple days ago for cheap.. I'll take an A3 instead, but that's suppressor money
What is that optic and mount combo?
Very nice. I will wait for the price drop
Did you account for the weight of the optic?
I gotta know, which one is the quietest silencer for the stribog !? or best one and why? I was looking to get the omega 9k.
Omega 9k with 147s is sillllly quiet
Specifically which brace is that?
People have been posting they're having trouble with it feeding hollow points I was hoping you guys was going to try it out
I have the A3 , 100 rounds of Gold Dot Hollow points threw it no issues . Although being a blunt nose round I would prefer to have a bunch of Hornaday Critical duty hollows due to shape
Suppressors do bump velocities on centerfire rifles. Lots of evidence of that out there. It is not huge but it is measurable. When I get a 9mm can I will do a with and without on my Stribog. Wish you had done both.
Does it take Glo...Grand Power SP9A3 Self Defense Pistol Magazines?
Hope he got some of the brand new curved mags.
Holy OCD!!! Lmao, shoot that second plate, you missed it, lol
I'm so glad to hear you say your glad it doesn't run on Glock mags I hate loading 30 round single stacks!
I find it silly seeing people cry that it doesn't take glock mags when the mags for the stribog are pretty affordable (and I was able to get them cheaper than glock mags), easier to load as you said, and is more reliable for rapid fire not every single gun needs to take glock mags and sometimes it's for the best if they're designed in such a way.
so how about putting the a3 belayed blowback system in the a1??????
Tim from MAC channel confirmed that they are not interchangeable.
@@toughcookie218 dang that would be clutch
I swapped to an a2 works fine
do the A3 mags work in the A1/A2? And are they selling the A3 mags separately?
I would assume the a3 mags would work. The A1 mags work in the A3 most of the time
I was told by grand power that the a3 mags will work in a1 .however I haven't been able to find a source including there own website .hope that helps .
COST DIFFERENCE ??
Better suppressor host, this or mp5 variant?
Well considering an MP5 is like $2K and a real one is like $25K I’m going with the Stribog
The VSO Gun Channel that or other variants like ptr or pof which is sub 1500 give or take. Not counting the crazy times we are in noe price wise. I’m debating which Is better for my omega 9k
30sec in and no glock mags....im out. Jk I built a cmmg rdb because this thing was delayed forever. Now I'm sitting on my 9mm and built a ks47....ammo? Ar10 is almost done...but that is precision build. I have 1800 into ks47 but I have 10k rounds so I'm still shootin
So which one is recommended? The A1 or A3?
Yes, whoever shots or owned both, please give your recommendation and why?
@@wayne6386 The answer is either as there is no difference in felt recoil and I went with the A1 as I got a better deal on it 👍🏼
@MilSpecJ yea, I wanted to see if the A3 is worth the upgrade. 👍
@@wayne6386 No problem and my friend has the A3 and we made videos on them reall is no difference, If you want to save some money get the A1 and swap the lower to one that accepts Pmags and scorpion mags.
It's We the People responsibility if the federal government gets too big and out of control to bring them down. Patriots and tyrants alike Shall Perish but we shall prevail. Saith the people...
So is retail around $1,100?
I already have a Scorpion and a PTR 9CT. I'm getting addicted to the PDW with a brace platform.
The CMMG BANSHEEs are calling my name like Ulysses's Sirens Now add the Striborg😱
I must have more self control. Otherwise I'll have to stop watching these videos.🥴
My pockets are empty and I have to feed my 2 PDWs.
& 9 mm is hard to find right now.
Thanks for the video!
Cheers
just got one retail for 790
@@ModernCriminal Wow!!
that's great! where did you get it?
@@stever8776 JoeBob Outfitters in Kansas, online purchase with Veterans discount :)
What grain ammo were you using?
When?
Anything suppressed would have been 147. The rest would be 115
@@VSO_Gun_Channel I am having (LRBHO) issues with the 115 & 124 grain
Fails to feed 147 grain aswell hollow or fmj
Others have reported a few malfunctions with the A3 and it looks like you've had a few also. I think i will go with the CMMG 9mm instead of the A3. Also, if you are knowledgeable on night vision, will you do a video of the best night vision under $1k?
Unfortunately I only have experience with borrowed gear but I am totally working on NV gear. It won’t be under $1K tho
Damn CZ needs to get on metal feed lips or the Scorpion
The current all black polymer mags are good to go. I sold all my clear ones to get the black ones.
You can get Manticore designed and made steel feed lip mags for your Scorpion from the Prepper Gun Shop!
And they don't cost any more than the CZ mags.
Plus they are made in the USA👍
@@stever8776 I got a couple of those. Both of them had the feed lips pop off after awhile
@@Excalibur01
Wow I guess I haven't shot mine enough for that to happen due to ammo shortages.
Have you found anything else that works?
@@stever8776 So far the PSA ones and the newer CZ ones that are windowed are holding up
The Stribog SP9A1 is much better. Don't waste your money 💵 on the SP9A3.
What are your reasons for saying so? I’m thinking about getting one is why I ask
@@megacarne2676 from the reviews I saw, they (SP9A3) were having too many issues. Could be better now.
@@A_Son_Of_Yahuah Do you currently feel the same about A1 over A3?
@@wayne6386 no they have them dialed for $200 difference it’s worth it
How did you get the thread protector off? I just picked up the Gen 3 and the thread protector will NOT budge. My Gen 2 came off fairly easy but this SOB won't budge.
Torch
Do you recommend buying the A3 over A1? Is the difference between the two worth the price difference?
If they could just create an AR-like lower that can take colt mags and take (without mods) AR trigger, safety, and grip, they would have a homerun! Go after that SIG and HK money
Heard it was having problems with hollowpoints. Big if people want to use for HD.
I am waiting for the gen 2. I don't want a range toy.
It’s 147 grains hollow or fmj serious failures to feed.
That is the number one reason to have kids I thought was free labor until I had three of them and realized there’s nothing they do that is free you pay for everything LOL
Lots of malfunctioning from this design, ill save up for cmmg for reliability
We had very few and were attributed to either low powered ammo or the use of the gen 1 Mags. 3 9s reliability across our 1500 rounds through it
@@VSO_Gun_Channel have you run a banshee suppressed? If so, can you comment on whether either delayed system was quieter?
That’s a tough call. I would say they are roughly equivalent on that front.
Lmao imagine saving up for a CMMG like a coombrain. AR-9's are a joke unless you're a cloner/collector. This comment is sponsored by #NoBufferTubeGang
So the SP9A3 has like 30% reduced recoil
The difference between the two models and the recoil is negligible. Certainly not worth 3 to 4 hundred dollars more for the A3. The reliability of the A1 model is much better than the A3.
Good insight
Ok, the sound of the gun shooting with a silencer on the video isn't really accurate. Even the quietest silencer I've ever heard still sounded like a berry loud balloon popping up close.
Noticed your description says "Roller-Delay". Sure it's just a mistake because this isn't a roller delay, I think it a cam based delay system. Anywho great review guys!
Its not a true roller delay.
So much talk of unreliability makes me really want to cancel my order. Is it really that bad?
Andy Huynh yes if you scoot 147 grain and up weather hollow or fmj they are experiencing failure to feed.
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Scientist* sorry
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So take a gun designed to be small and compact, add a can to it to make it long again... what's the point?
Decibel reduction. Same reason you put a can on a long gun.
Not disturb the neighbors.
Will they still be producing the older model??
I don’t see why they would stop
I don’t get why they chose an 8” barrel. I’d prefer a shorter barrel. Maybe they should consult me next time they design a sub gun.
They have a3s version
8" is perfect for PCC (that's what she said😂). Shorter is just your preference. (definitely not what she said😂)
1 jam per 30 rounds
Personally id rather have a mac10, this gun has way to many issues.justmy .02 tho
Lol
He said, "brittle feed lips" just sayin.
Apc9 is better than the stribog
I’m sure it is but it’s also 3 times the price.
Am I the only person alive that doesn't give two shits about suppressors? I don't get it...for the money and effort in obtaining one just to be "quieter".
I thought the same until I got my first one. They are worth the wait and time to me. To each his own though. ✌️
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