Long term linux user here. Dont do apt-get while your disk is running out of space. You can get into an unbootable state because upgrading the kernel or grub can success without space left (because ram cache) and never got written back. Linux is not perfect but it can get better.
Over the years I tried several distros, all of which had different unworkable bugs, or no support for my hardware. Then I tried Arch. That was the first distro where everything clicked for me. I haven't logged into my Windows in over a year now (and, frankly, I am scared to). Arch was the first time I got VRR mixed+refresh rate to work properly. Arch was the first time I assumed full control over what was on my system. Learned proper drive setups. Learned proper package management. Dot file management. User security management. Network management. Ultimate power and ultimate discipline to match.
Cannot understand why people like Arch, where you have to assemble it bit by bit and if you have a slightly obscure printer, you'll have to manually go to the aur and get it. I'm on mint now, did not have to configure it at all, didn't have issues with drivers (printer/scanner worked) and didn't have to install them manually. I just got it and could work, + it's based on the most popular distro, so if there is a Linux driver, it's on Ubuntu.
Using unofficial drivers for hardware can also become a moving target if you're on a rolling release of Linux. Sometimes kernel updates will suddenly mess up support for those unofficial drivers. One example I've struggled with is support with an Xbox wireless controller dongle. It took a bit of experimentation and learning but now I know how to work around things if it breaks.
@@linuxnext Arch has been great for me overall. I’m using Garuda Linux which has Snapper pre- configured so I can easily revert the system if an update goes bad.
All Linux problems I had were self inflicted by me purchasing windows only hardware. Or relaying on windows only software for work. It’s not for everything. But what works is usually best thing in the game.
You mean like... Routers? Switches? Firewalls? Servers? I still don't understand why the Linux community desperately wants it to be a Desktop OS, when it's not great at it. Like: Try to tell your average Person who can't click "next, next, next, Finished" in a Windows installer, how to use apt-get XYZ. Good luck on that one. If you ask me Linux should do what it's best at, to be the operating system of the internet. How do you want to teach the average person who can't use a computer anymore, if the Windows Start menu is in the middle instead of the lower left, to use KDE and or Gnome etc? There is no chance Linux will ever be a widespread Desktop OS ,because it is open source, which is a sad reality.
Lol ok When do you have to do sudo apt install application on linux desktop these days? You make these points but your stuck in the 2000s linux desktop era Each desktop has a gui store that installs applications One example is fedora with kde plasma, you can use discover to install any system or gui application so again that issue doesnt exist, you dont have to enter some random terminal command to do something unless your doing things that are made for advanced users like something similar you would need to do on windows which wouldnt be through a gui either Also whats open source got to do with a desktop os not succeeding? Have you heard of AOSP? the android open source project Yeah idk maybe a couple billions users are using that operating system on mobile phones today lol Also do you know that the enterprise video animation production is all done on linux desktop? i dont know if you know but thats VERY important that their software is working on linux desktop at their best So no linux shouldnt just be used for only servers these days and can do multiple things rlly well Have you heard of the steamdeck also? Couple million gamers are using it to play triple a games on a handheld device easily with the use of proton and this includes desktop users also playing games like me and even my friend that left windows a couple weeks ago and he has adhd, tourettes, dyslexia, autism spectrum disorder So again no linux shouldn't just be used for servers when it can multiple things rlly well and it continues to show that
@@TheNerd Because no person that knows what they are doing and actually cares about owning and controlling their own computer they spent money on, want an actually good experience and you don't get that in windows or on mac. at least not owning your computer... I use arch btw, and have been for almost half a year now. Best decision I have made.
@@linuxnextBuddy, calm down. He has a point. Yes, Steam w/ proton makes it possible to translate Windows-only games for Linux. But that's best case scenario. But what is still not possible with Linux is seamless driver support for hardware made by enterprises only supporting Windows. Like HTC's Wireless Adapter Card, or Nvidia's next-gen graphics cards. We need community support to get all that working on Linux, and that takes coordinated effort, not money, because these companies should have acknowledged support for this hardware a long time ago but still do not do now. And the community will only get around what's popular and required, not the niche
You mean to say that Softlanding Linux System might not be user-friendly? Man, wish someone would have mentioned that on the BBS back then. Linux has come such a long way. It was fun being part of the early days over 30 years ago, but it is certainly much more relaxing to use now.
Yes, I tried multiple times to get into Linux, because I really wanted to support it. But, even in school with CS classes, I did not want to have to figure out how to untar the newest kernel compilation, create the different disk partitions ahead-of-time with GSPart (or something like that), setup your own FSTab file, and find the latest (if it even existed) code versions of your different peripherals (e.g., a newer motherboard built-in network card or the Creative Blaster sound card), etc. It was just too much for me. Yes, it's come a long way. Back then, it was so intimidating, especially asking TA's or GTA's for help with it. They just acted like I was SO STUPID for not knowing how to do that stuff. However, I've had a nice career in the Windows field and can coast now, giving me more time to play with other things.
It is not necessary for any Linux user, no matter their 'seniority', to distrohop. I have been using Mint since I switched in 2022. I am comfortable with it and have no plans to hop to another distro, and that's OK. The point of using an OS is to be comfortable with it; that's why a lot of people never move on from Windows. I think the push to distrohop can do more harm to people looking into Linux, or people new to Linux, than good.
Ok, I wasn't talking about users who are already on a distro, it's about people who haven't switched to Linux yet, showing them the mistakes and pushing them in the right direction There is nothing wrong with Linux mint it just depends on your hardware and setup you have and that's why I mention it because I have only had some good experiences with mint which is on older hardware
@@ringo8410 I don't think there's a lot of really good tutorials on how/why you'd pick a distro. Most channels just gloss over and say Linux Mint for a new user. When I first tried Linux (back in the late 90's) Ubuntu was OK, but you really couldn't do much with it and I think there was only one desktop environment LOL. Nowadays there's so many distros and desktop environments that a new user would be mistaken for thinking a DE is a distro and confuse them even more. But I think distro hopping and trying out different DE's is part of the learning curve to see what fits your working habits. Personally I couldn't get a grip with Gnome or Cinnamon, but KDE fits really well for the most part.
#2 I always think of the person I'm suggesting it to, if they like modern AAA gaming or have brand new hardware I recommend something different, if they are basic pc users then the most stable distro is best.
Top mistake new Linux users make; Using Ubuntu And I don't mean any of it's amazing forks such as Pop_OS or Mint, I'm talking stock Ubuntu. You're missing out on a ton of software since by default it's forcing snap down your throat (now they don't even support flatpak with their new store), and iirc there are still issues with snap. Canonical has become Microsoft when it comes to the Linux desktop. Every time a friend of mine wanted to try Linux for the first time and used Ubuntu, I've heard them have nothing but problems - especially with software support since everything is (rightfully so) on flathub, and shipped via flatpak
Blablabla.... Mint is forcing Flatpak down your throat. No problem to have Flatpak and Snap in one store in Ubuntu, not possible in Mint. Wayland, Fingerprint, Smartphone Integration, Nvidia Secure Boot and so on. Works in Ubuntu, not in Mint. If you turn on Home Encryption in Mint you will loose your data in the case Mint doesn't boot anymore. Great recommendation for new users 😂
@@drakemallard6100 Is this purposeful misinformation you're spreading without fully reading my comment or are you actually unaware of Linux standards such as LUKS?
As someone that used Mint and Ubuntu for many years I couldn't disagree more. Supposedly "newbie friendly" distros always have an abundance of over confident amateurs posting all sorts of nonsense, bad advice, and 'fixes' that often make problems far worse. Couple that with the large disparity between .deb based distros that use a LTS system with packages and a kernel at a different timeline and sooner or later people look for answers or programs outside of their specific .deb based distro, add outside PPA's etc and apply them to Mint or whatever other .deb based distro and in so doing turn their OS into a broken mess of missing dependencies and deprecation problems. The conclusion they draw from breaking their "windows like newbie friendly distro" that's stuck in the past and wont support the latest hardware or software is that Linux is crap and not ready for prime time and a windows replacement. People new to linux should get out of windows like habits and that includes... searching online for answers and solutions they have no idea of the intent, or skill of the person posting them, or how old or relevant they are to the latest version of a distro today. To be safe it's best to stick to specific distro forums and wikis where the solution to problems is addressed by devs of the distro. Preferably with regards to forums where it's not a complete circus of unwanted noise where bad advice is so abundant and poorly managed that it drowns out the good.
I can confirm the same, and my hardware is fairly recent back when I gave it a whirl (i9-12900K and RTX3090 in 2023). I think LTS is also more handy for people who don't upgrade often and thus are running older hardware to begin with, which is quite a large percentage. The other perk of LTS is that you don't feel forced to run updates all the time or have to do a lot of research (Arch).
And that's because you're running nvidia which is using a proprietary driver that isn't in the kernel by default, isn't in mesa so you can get away with using a LTS distro like mint This will change when users will be able to use NVK and you those users will need newer packages for the newest patches and Vulkan extensions
NTFS works fine, as long as you know how to deal with the potential issues, it would not work out of the box with proton, because of proton itself and the prefix for the game, but if proton and prefix is in another drive, everything will work, so, for people that know how to put JUST the game on the NTFS drive, everything will work. also, BTRFS has windows drivers, so if the idea is to share files that can be read and write by both OS, BTRFS is a great option (also supports zstd compression), it has its own problems, but is more "Linux" friendly (this is not a recommendation about NTFS, is a way to say, is completely possible with workarounds)
yes you are correct but we dont want users using ntfs when its not the recommended way of using proton, all the user is doing is putting stress and more research they dont have to do or deal with its why i say that as a thing not to do as a new user, if your experienced or done the research before hand because you want to use ntfs then great go ahead but dont be surprised when proton breaks some of your games prefixes in the long run and you have to go fixing it again its just not worth the effort for most new users, as you said your better off using btrfs on windows and linux and that should suffice
Yeah I think you're spot on for Linux Mint. Good distro and certainly an option, but if the recommendation is just use it for a while to eventually move to X distro, it depends what X distro is. I see no reason why a new user can't just hop on Fedora provided their hardware doesn't have issues with Wayland, Fedora is an incredible experience even for new users. I started on Debian and as outdated as it is I didn't even think that was too hard to figure out xd. Depends on the user ofc but yeah great analysis!
You don't ever "have" to "move on" to another distro if Mint works for you. I have to push back against the distrohopping argument because I just think a lot of Linux enthusiasts are too into it. Nothing wrong with switching to another distro, but if you're happy with what you're using, there is absolutely no shame in continuing to use it.
@@ringo8410 I personally like to push back against use "insert newbie friendly distro" because largely I believe it's total BS that actually limits people from more extensively learning linux. To tie yourself to one distro only replaces one master (Windows) with another wannabe version of it. You cannot tell whether the grass is greener on the other side of the fence unless you take a look. Too many ravings about Mint are done by people that have experienced nothing but Mint. There's no shame in using any distro. However, advice from those that have used more than one is imo far more valuable than that from those have used one and stuck with it.
@@erroneouscode It's always good to diversify, and I'm not going to tell you that Mint is the end-all be-all of the Linux experience. But the "gotta distrohop! Gotta keep moving!" mentality puts undue pressure on people who like the distro they're using perfectly fine. Being comfortable is OK.
@@ringo8410 I'm not claiming you "gotta distrohop" I'm saying you don't know what you're missing unless you try other distros instead of relying on other peoples claims that you're a newbie and this is best for you, so you should use this first. It's total nonsense that's parroted adnauseam. I stopped distro hopping years ago and settled on Manjaro on a couple of PC's and Arch pure on another. I learned and took SFA from using Mint for years that was applicable to other distro's. Mint held me back. "being comfortable is OK" That can be interpreted as complacency which is fine until the heat is turned up just one notch to high for the slow boiling frog as is happening with windows users and they jump out. I don't think anyone thinks their distro is 100% fine which "perfect" or "perfectly" implies by definition. If too much is done for you out of the box on a supposedly "newbie friendly distro" and you don't have something else to compare it with then how do you know it's perfectly fine? It gets the job done? Quite possibly. Can another distro get the job done better? Perhaps. You wont know unless you try. Those coming from a Windows environment have never had that choice to make before. Imo, you're fool if you don't take advantage of it and 'again' settle for something someone else says is best for you.
Another really useful video, Thanks 🙂. Im searching for some new Linux versions to try. Over the years Ive tried plenty of distros, but after several years of only Windows my brain had rotted a bit ;-) . Lately Ive been using Zorin, and it is perfect for someone detoxing from windows. I will watch some of your older videos to get some ideas of other distros to try. That linux kernel diagram you showed at 3:33 in was interesting, do you remember where you got it?
i just searched mesa userspace linux lol duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=mesa+userspace+drivers&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F70%2Fbb%2F41%2F70bb41009247255e4d9a39b57879b4a6--device-driver-system-architecture.jpg
My second newbie Linux question is, I'm having dificulties making Linux work nicely on a old macbook 2015 model. I don't know i spent a some days finding a good distro that maches with my keyboard layout (swissgerman). control, option, command nothing maches and somehow don't work and only the right option works but then the combinations are not the ones on my layout etc. Even if I would like to custumize is somehow it intereferes with shortcuts from Linux and so on. Since I'm not a programmer I cannot make it work on my own and the workarounds are very counterintuitive. How do others deal with this situation?
@@mariorobles87 Well it seems you have tried kde plasma already but the last distro you could try would be tuxedo os as they are from germany and you can contact them for support about this layout issue your trying to use The latest kde plasma 6.2 should work tho with that keyboard layout in the keyboard settings Main website www.tuxedocomputers.com/index.php The Distro they maintain www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/TUXEDO-OS_1.tuxedo Support www.tuxedocomputers.com/index.php?coID=2&content=content_contact
Thanks for the heads up about Flatseal. I've been using KDE for a while now and wondered why network paths never came up in some applications. This tool (well KDE) should really have this as a default application or part of settings in the distro. Unfortunately Linux is still in the "you don't know what you know" category
kde has its own option in application permissions, flatpak permissions, most distros include this on kde plasma if you want this package as i know arch based distros dont install it the package is flatpak-kcm to get it
Having used only Windows since 3.11 it took me a long time to get comfortable on Linux but now I have I'd find it really hard to go back. One example was the file system, with a bunch of cryptic folder names like etc, var, dev. Coming from Windows and having drive letters it seemed like nonsense at first. I did not understand why it's like that, how much more sense the Linux way makes and how much more power it gives to the user. Try moving your Users folder on Windows. You can't, or if you somehow manage it you will probably break your entire OS. Meanwhile my /home folder is located nicely on another drive from my Linux root folder. Another one was file permissions, chmod 777 what the hell does that mean? But now I know the Linux way of owner group and other is much more secure and makes a lot of logical sense once you understand it. And now I use KDE Plasma 6 which absolutely deletes Windows in terms of power, features and customisabilty. It is, in my opinion, the best desktop environment in the world right now and continues to improve with every update. Then there's btrfs and snapper, paru making installing software a breeze (I use CachyOS btw) and most the games I play actually run better on Linux than Windows 11. The only downside is you have to know what you are doing or be willing to learn a lot and adapt to alternatives to your ripoff Adobe software etc.
In regards to NTFS, one of my biggest issues is mounting additional drives for Steam to detect. How does one go about formatting and having Steam see example, Drive A: is main, Drive B: spare, Drive C: spare etc.
well on linux you dont have drive A, Drive B, there just folders so you can use a gui like kde partition manager or gnome disks to create a ext4 partition and tell where to mount them, so for me i mount mine under /games and /extragames, my friends ones are mounted under /hdd and /ssd then steam will detect them Then if your using flatpak and want a application to see them or all of the flatpak apps to see them you just add the directory of where the folder/drive is mounted like /games or /extragames using flatseal
It's not "LTS" that it is about, it's point release (and immutable) vs rolling. It's about how up to date the packages are for the distro. Fedora as you mention is a good example. I use Arch, that is a rolling release, but I use the 6.6 LTS kernel. See? LTS has nothing to do with it. For most things in this video the solution is all very simple: If the distro does not provide what you need, look for a different distro.
Hey! Great tips! Was just wondering: what theme are you using? Love the blue-tinted dark theme you've got, and the dark taskbar compared to breeze dark!
I've had reasonable luck so far, getting nvidia going on Fedora KDE spin was admittedlly a bit of faffing around on desktop though. But that was my 2nd linux experience so by then I was quite comfortable in the terminal. Before that I had it on my 2022 laptop which has LMDE (Mint but based on Debian) and since that uses Intel graphics and very common Realtek WiFi literally every single thing worked perfect out of the box. I also (kind of for 'sport' for lack of better way of putting it) installed Lubuntu 24.10 just recently a much older 10-year old laptop. I missed that it was now using a MUCH newer kernel than Ubuntu used to... so when I saw it updating to the 6.11-08 kernel I figured it was dooomed, but it took it like a champ and rebooted fine. So now I have a decade-old quad-core 4GB ram laptop running linux 6.11 with the LXQt 2.0 desktop, kinda nuts. Runs surprisingly well in fact, aside from the bootup time which is rather slow but once the DE is up its very clean and minimalist with LXQt 2.0
You could do a research over net, and tell us what common mistakes have you found on help forums, or other citations etc. Plus adding your own talking and examples. Damn I am so smart, gg ez. Joke aside, good video.
Try adding separated system monitor widgets to the panel, change the appearance to grid view, and Plasma will crash. Here are the steps I took: 1. Added a CPU usage widget. 2. Added a GPU usage widget. 3. Added a RAM usage widget. 4. Added an internet speed widget. All separate system monitors widgets . When I get to the internet speed in grid view, everything crashes. Plasma 6.2.2 on arch am I doing something wrong?
nope i can not get the widgets to crash plasma even when changing the display style to grid view on any of the widgets you mentioned, if it continues to happen please report it to kde bugs with as much information as you can bugs.kde.org/index.cgi
I would like to say as a intermediate user who has been using linux for 4 years now I have had a better experience with linux mint with the mesa ppa & xanmod kernel than I have had using something like fedora. Mix this with flatpak & your really not far behind. (I know you mentioned this) It is nice to have that more stable base with specific parts fully updated but I do agree I wish cinnamon wayland was in a better state but im aware that will take some time.
Question from a Linux Newbie. I was able to try out some distros the past weeks on old laptops for a project with kids where we play minecraft. CachyOS was recomended a lot and I like it, it seems to work fine and smooth, allthough I was a bit worried cause I heard somewhere that CachyOS is not ment to be runned on a old laptop preformancewise.
it's insane how hybrid graphics (amd+nvidia) work better on linux than on windows. The only issue I have is flickering when I use Vsync with an x11 game (but I can just force wayland and yes, wine natively supports wayland and it works well) which is a hyprland+xwayland+nvidia issue. Of course the performance with VKD3D aren't great but they are not THAT bad either (but I still want my lost performance back)
Sadly my watercooler (gigabyte aorus waterforce x 280) is not supported. There are no drivers for it on linux. As soon as I boot into Linux my Fans go crazy on 100% speed :( Sadly the fans are connected through USB directly to the watercooling.
well looking for drivers i found this :) www.kernel.org/doc/html/v6.12-rc3/hwmon/gigabyte_waterforce.html kernel 6.12 is coming out in the next couple of weeks so great timing lol This is another great reason why using a newer distro is needed for newer hardware, if another person who was brand new to linux didnt know about that driver being merged into kernel 6.12 they would just not use linux again so using a newer distro is needed or atleast swapping the kernel out for a newer one on LTS distros of course these drivers can be downstreamed also but it would still take a while and no one rlly talks about it to the public
seems that link is now gone and i cant find it in the changelogs of kernel 6.12 here is this tho, a driver for that watercooler that you could get running if you know what to do github.com/amazonparrot/waterforce-hwmon
A few things. 1. I've never seen hardware not work in Linux Mint. If it wont work in Mint I can 99% guarantee it will not work on another distro. It likely just wont work on Linux. 2. Wyland sucks ass and is years away from being ready. x11 Simply works.
I've literally been using Wayland since Arch switched to it, and I've had exactly 0 issues with it whatsoever, something I can't say about X11, which crashed a lot, felt choppy and looked janky at times
@@adamraad8445 I would say you are the rare exception. Everyone I know who has tried wyland says its a pile of dog shit and I wholeheartedly agree. Meanwhile I've been using x11 since there has been x11 with no issues at all.
Ive tried (and have been using) X11 for months, with my nvidia gpu on my laptop and its been notoriously buggy with issues, nvidia-xconfig makes it not even start, and having any environment variable so X11 actually *uses* my gpu causes so. many. errors. that KDE crashes every 5 seconds nor renders anything. I have to ditch all X11 configuration files and any environment variables to even have X11 work. (also I cant use hardware acceleration on X11.. wayland works fine.) Then about 1 and a half months ago I finally tried out Wayland and.. I finally have smooth animations. I crash less. My transparent dock/panels arent black squares anymore with any graphical app open, they're actually transparent.. My desktop actually uses my GPU. The wayland screenshare portal is great. I am however on the Nvidia-560 drivers. That might be why, but I would 100% recommend updating drivers if you're on an older driver and just.. giving wayland another try. At least for me, it just works.
@@pajeetsingh hm? Which games are these? And is this on nvidia? One game I play which is the finals I lose 5fps vs windows and that's unreal engine 5.3 or .2 I think
@@linuxnext Black Myth Wukong (UE 5), Lords of the Fallen 2024 (UE5? UE4?) Lies of P (probably UE 4) , Sons of the Forest (Unity) . I could not play these on Linux with my 2070 super at 1440p. Elden Ring and Shadow of the Erdtree on the other ran smooth as Windows. Dead by Daylight (UE4) runs great because it doesn't have too many things going on.
My advice to new users if they want a "modern" system is to use GNOME or KDE, but they shouldn't stress about it. There are plenty of good desktop environments that still run on X11, and most of the ones I'd recommend like Xfce, Cinnamon, or Mate are currently transitioning to Wayland anyway. Compositors are too much of a hassle to bother configuring, especially when they don't know much at all about the rest of the system. Frankly, X11 vs Wayland isn't something a new user should at all be concerned about in my honest opinion.
They should be concerned about it, x11 can't do vrr, HDR, multi monitors refresh rates by default I know it depends on the user but if the user doesn't know and they can't use those features or get these issues, then the user will say "Linux is trash I'm moving back to windows" then that's the end of the story and they will spread that to their friends We don't want that happening, first impressions are EVERYTHING :)
I installed Mint on my mom's old notebook. For now, works just fine. But I fear install a Distro on my notebook (i5 13°gen + RTX 3050), mostly because of Nvidia drivers.
@@IoannesPetrvs installing nvidia drivers nowadays is very easy, if your choosing mint again then it should be fine Another distro I'm gonna be looking at that has great support for laptops is tuxedo os, they have fantastic support also as they are a laptop & desktop company/business So if you have any questions I would 100% open a ticket about your laptop and see what they respond with as Iv been asking them tons of questions about their distro and they have been pretty quick with responses www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/TUXEDO-OS_1.tuxedo www.tuxedocomputers.com/index.php?coID=2&content=content_contact
I can't be the only person that finds wayland buggy af?! Like OBS keyboard shortcuts don't even work. That makes it unusable for me. Then there's the flickering in games. then there's games locking to the refresh rate of the second monitor. Switch x11 and zero issues. I can't be the only person. My cpu/gpu/board is pretty mainstream.
Don't use distros with outdated drivers and you will be fine. Nvidia driver 560 has fixed everything. Hyprland and games run buttery smooth. Not a single issue.
@@GalaxyTracker Nobara. PikaOS Fedora. NONE of them allow OBS keyboard shortcuts to work unless OBS window is active when on Wayland. It is not about distro age. This is the current state of this issue today right now in this moment.
You force OBS in xwayland, it's got nothing to do with which desktop you use, it's OBS that needs to implement the xdg desktop portal global shortcut key protocol and KDE plasma is the only desktop that supports it right now You can force OBS in xwayland by turning off Wayland in flatseal or using a environment variable I forgot Then KDE plasma has a permission x11 setting for allowing xwayland clients to see your inputs
run obs through xwayland, that will bring back keyboard shortcuts, i dont get flickering in games under arch, latest nvidia drivers 560 on kde plasma wayland, i also dont get the second monitor locking to the refresh
@@linuxnext That's the issue. Mine specifically. I'm new to Linux. 3-4 months. I can install Fedora Cinnamon that defaults to x11. Everything is easy peasy or works out of the box. I have no idea what xwayland is. I'm also not a big fan of using a thing to make another thing work because that leads to a bloated OS and then I mights well run Windows right? Like I'm not in left field thinking that if wayland is the way one of the most popular programs in the world should work right on it or at least the same as it does on x11. If one works and one doesn't why am I always being told x11 is dead and wayland is the future? The future isn't ready for primetime yet.
I disagree, windows 11 and windows 10 are both poorly fragmented also having their past operating systems components being found and Microsoft taking years to move everything out of the control panel into the settings At least on Linux our desktops don't have that going on at all The only issue with "fragmentation" on Linux is our different toolkits like gtk for gnome, qt for plasma, iced for cosmic but all of the desktops are working together to sync your theme on whatever desktop your using so that it doesn't look like crap Can't say the same with windows :)
Linux Mint, you say it does not use Wayland. It does. (Wilma 22) You can choose it or X.11 when you log in. Gotta love these inaccurate advice videos. The kernel update cycle has been increased in LTS to match Ubuntu so new hardware will work just fine out of the box.
Wayland on mint is experimental and it's not the default meaning it doesn't use wayland, it's also missing a decent amount of protocols and features and it's why it's experimental Kernel updates are only one piece of the puzzle, your forgetting about mesa which is very important for playing games under AMD and Intel and has major patches for Wayland, Vulkan extensions for different Vulkan drivers, these don't get updates as much on LTS Distros so that's why I give that advice. LTS Distros will never be good for the newest hardware for playing the latest games And I said you can fix this yourself if you rlly like using LTS Distros but thats if the user knows how to do that and its why i state that in the video that a user should be trying a distro that offers newer packages so they get a better experience like fedora
Zorin is still on 22.04. 2 years out-of-date. Yikes! Also, there are a few layouts locked behind a paywall. Most people who switch to Linux want to get away from that BS.
am using fedora Linux with gnome wayland but the one thing that will make me go full linux on all my pc is the anti-cheat if they fix it so i can game on linux like Fortnite or valorant without banned this will be amazing
Kernel-mode anti-cheat is so invasive, _we don't want it on Linux._ you're better off giving up playing those few titles, or get a console for those titles instead.
20 minutes and not a single audible pause, just a constant stream of words! Woot!? It's not my kind of videos, I find it very hard to consume! Appreciate the efforts nonetheless, but I just can't take this nonstop babbling. Please take a breath, add some time for your audience to digest some sentences. o) Otherwise, this is just a totally unnatural noise in (in may ears at least o). Thank you, be fine!
There is a thing called a pause button :) I cant please everyone, if i start adding breaks then someone will say "what are these pauses that your making, this is making the video boring" So i choose the majority which is to continue talking Its rlly not my problem that you cant keep up with what im saying
@@linuxnext Yes, not your problem, I just thought I give some feedback! o) It's your channel, do whatever you think it makes it a success. I honestly doubt though, that this kind of cutting and talking will be appreciated by a greater audience. To me this was just an annoying noise, not necessarily talking or something I want to listen to for more than 1 minute, but I might be the only person feeling this way. I still have the capability to watch or just listen to a video which is longer than 10-20 minutes, if the content is worth it, I also watch a 3h video. The actual success of video is not defined by its total length I guess, it's the content that counts, right? If your content is boring, it probably does not help much, to cut the videos shorter, but that's just a guess and is not meant to be rude, just something to think about. Have a nice day! o)
Long term linux user here.
Dont do apt-get while your disk is running out of space.
You can get into an unbootable state because upgrading the kernel or grub can success without space left (because ram cache) and never got written back.
Linux is not perfect but it can get better.
Over the years I tried several distros, all of which had different unworkable bugs, or no support for my hardware. Then I tried Arch. That was the first distro where everything clicked for me. I haven't logged into my Windows in over a year now (and, frankly, I am scared to). Arch was the first time I got VRR mixed+refresh rate to work properly. Arch was the first time I assumed full control over what was on my system. Learned proper drive setups. Learned proper package management. Dot file management. User security management. Network management. Ultimate power and ultimate discipline to match.
Cannot understand why people like Arch, where you have to assemble it bit by bit and if you have a slightly obscure printer, you'll have to manually go to the aur and get it.
I'm on mint now, did not have to configure it at all, didn't have issues with drivers (printer/scanner worked) and didn't have to install them manually. I just got it and could work, + it's based on the most popular distro, so if there is a Linux driver, it's on Ubuntu.
Using unofficial drivers for hardware can also become a moving target if you're on a rolling release of Linux. Sometimes kernel updates will suddenly mess up support for those unofficial drivers. One example I've struggled with is support with an Xbox wireless controller dongle. It took a bit of experimentation and learning but now I know how to work around things if it breaks.
yep, its why i usually dont recommend arch even tho i use it as my daily os
@@linuxnext Arch has been great for me overall. I’m using Garuda Linux which has Snapper pre- configured so I can easily revert the system if an update goes bad.
I've experienced no problems using GNU/Linux other than me messing with conf files.
I've experienced a lot of issues, but that because I use Arch btw
It is technically Linux/GNU since the kernel boots first and everything else run on top of it.
All Linux problems I had were self inflicted by me purchasing windows only hardware. Or relaying on windows only software for work.
It’s not for everything. But what works is usually best thing in the game.
You mean like... Routers? Switches? Firewalls? Servers? I still don't understand why the Linux community desperately wants it to be a Desktop OS, when it's not great at it. Like: Try to tell your average Person who can't click "next, next, next, Finished" in a Windows installer, how to use apt-get XYZ. Good luck on that one. If you ask me Linux should do what it's best at, to be the operating system of the internet. How do you want to teach the average person who can't use a computer anymore, if the Windows Start menu is in the middle instead of the lower left, to use KDE and or Gnome etc? There is no chance Linux will ever be a widespread Desktop OS ,because it is open source, which is a sad reality.
Lol ok
When do you have to do sudo apt install application on linux desktop these days?
You make these points but your stuck in the 2000s linux desktop era
Each desktop has a gui store that installs applications
One example is fedora with kde plasma, you can use discover to install any system or gui application so again that issue doesnt exist, you dont have to enter some random terminal command to do something unless your doing things that are made for advanced users like something similar you would need to do on windows which wouldnt be through a gui either
Also whats open source got to do with a desktop os not succeeding?
Have you heard of AOSP? the android open source project
Yeah idk maybe a couple billions users are using that operating system on mobile phones today lol
Also do you know that the enterprise video animation production is all done on linux desktop? i dont know if you know but thats VERY important that their software is working on linux desktop at their best
So no linux shouldnt just be used for only servers these days and can do multiple things rlly well
Have you heard of the steamdeck also? Couple million gamers are using it to play triple a games on a handheld device easily with the use of proton and this includes desktop users also playing games like me and even my friend that left windows a couple weeks ago and he has adhd, tourettes, dyslexia, autism spectrum disorder
So again no linux shouldn't just be used for servers when it can multiple things rlly well and it continues to show that
@@TheNerd Because no person that knows what they are doing and actually cares about owning and controlling their own computer they spent money on, want an actually good experience and you don't get that in windows or on mac. at least not owning your computer... I use arch btw, and have been for almost half a year now. Best decision I have made.
@@linuxnextBuddy, calm down. He has a point.
Yes, Steam w/ proton makes it possible to translate Windows-only games for Linux. But that's best case scenario.
But what is still not possible with Linux is seamless driver support for hardware made by enterprises only supporting Windows. Like HTC's Wireless Adapter Card, or Nvidia's next-gen graphics cards. We need community support to get all that working on Linux, and that takes coordinated effort, not money, because these companies should have acknowledged support for this hardware a long time ago but still do not do now. And the community will only get around what's popular and required, not the niche
You mean to say that Softlanding Linux System might not be user-friendly? Man, wish someone would have mentioned that on the BBS back then. Linux has come such a long way. It was fun being part of the early days over 30 years ago, but it is certainly much more relaxing to use now.
Yes, I tried multiple times to get into Linux, because I really wanted to support it. But, even in school with CS classes, I did not want to have to figure out how to untar the newest kernel compilation, create the different disk partitions ahead-of-time with GSPart (or something like that), setup your own FSTab file, and find the latest (if it even existed) code versions of your different peripherals (e.g., a newer motherboard built-in network card or the Creative Blaster sound card), etc. It was just too much for me. Yes, it's come a long way. Back then, it was so intimidating, especially asking TA's or GTA's for help with it. They just acted like I was SO STUPID for not knowing how to do that stuff. However, I've had a nice career in the Windows field and can coast now, giving me more time to play with other things.
It is not necessary for any Linux user, no matter their 'seniority', to distrohop. I have been using Mint since I switched in 2022. I am comfortable with it and have no plans to hop to another distro, and that's OK. The point of using an OS is to be comfortable with it; that's why a lot of people never move on from Windows. I think the push to distrohop can do more harm to people looking into Linux, or people new to Linux, than good.
Ok, I wasn't talking about users who are already on a distro, it's about people who haven't switched to Linux yet, showing them the mistakes and pushing them in the right direction
There is nothing wrong with Linux mint it just depends on your hardware and setup you have and that's why I mention it because I have only had some good experiences with mint which is on older hardware
@@linuxnext You're fine. I agree. When you're new to Linux it's perfectly understandable to try out several distros.
@@ringo8410 I don't think there's a lot of really good tutorials on how/why you'd pick a distro. Most channels just gloss over and say Linux Mint for a new user. When I first tried Linux (back in the late 90's) Ubuntu was OK, but you really couldn't do much with it and I think there was only one desktop environment LOL. Nowadays there's so many distros and desktop environments that a new user would be mistaken for thinking a DE is a distro and confuse them even more.
But I think distro hopping and trying out different DE's is part of the learning curve to see what fits your working habits. Personally I couldn't get a grip with Gnome or Cinnamon, but KDE fits really well for the most part.
#2 I always think of the person I'm suggesting it to, if they like modern AAA gaming or have brand new hardware I recommend something different, if they are basic pc users then the most stable distro is best.
Bro! You got shouted out by DT! Congrats!
great video, so many good tips i made the lts mistake when i started lol i will show this video to ppl starting to use linux
Top mistake new Linux users make; Using Ubuntu
And I don't mean any of it's amazing forks such as Pop_OS or Mint, I'm talking stock Ubuntu. You're missing out on a ton of software since by default it's forcing snap down your throat (now they don't even support flatpak with their new store), and iirc there are still issues with snap. Canonical has become Microsoft when it comes to the Linux desktop. Every time a friend of mine wanted to try Linux for the first time and used Ubuntu, I've heard them have nothing but problems - especially with software support since everything is (rightfully so) on flathub, and shipped via flatpak
Blablabla.... Mint is forcing Flatpak down your throat. No problem to have Flatpak and Snap in one store in Ubuntu, not possible in Mint. Wayland, Fingerprint, Smartphone Integration, Nvidia Secure Boot and so on. Works in Ubuntu, not in Mint. If you turn on Home Encryption in Mint you will loose your data in the case Mint doesn't boot anymore. Great recommendation for new users 😂
@@drakemallard6100 Is this purposeful misinformation you're spreading without fully reading my comment or are you actually unaware of Linux standards such as LUKS?
Choose a distro where you can find the most info on line.
That's the one you should use..... (And it will probably be mint our Ubuntu)
No... the most information online is the Arch wiki. But Arch is not the one most people should use.
That would be arch my friend. Most people should not use arch. It is not the most user friendly.
As someone that used Mint and Ubuntu for many years I couldn't disagree more. Supposedly "newbie friendly" distros always have an abundance of over confident amateurs posting all sorts of nonsense, bad advice, and 'fixes' that often make problems far worse. Couple that with the large disparity between .deb based distros that use a LTS system with packages and a kernel at a different timeline and sooner or later people look for answers or programs outside of their specific .deb based distro, add outside PPA's etc and apply them to Mint or whatever other .deb based distro and in so doing turn their OS into a broken mess of missing dependencies and deprecation problems. The conclusion they draw from breaking their "windows like newbie friendly distro" that's stuck in the past and wont support the latest hardware or software is that Linux is crap and not ready for prime time and a windows replacement. People new to linux should get out of windows like habits and that includes... searching online for answers and solutions they have no idea of the intent, or skill of the person posting them, or how old or relevant they are to the latest version of a distro today. To be safe it's best to stick to specific distro forums and wikis where the solution to problems is addressed by devs of the distro. Preferably with regards to forums where it's not a complete circus of unwanted noise where bad advice is so abundant and poorly managed that it drowns out the good.
I should probably have said info you can understand. Yes Arch is the one with the most info.
great channel and information. Cheers from the USA. You still rocking Nobara?
Nobara is a great distro but no, I grew out of it as I want to choose my own packages on install so I run endeavour/arch
2:30 I always go LTS (Mint), can't say i've ever had any issues, even in gaming. That's my experience anyway. 🙂
I can confirm the same, and my hardware is fairly recent back when I gave it a whirl (i9-12900K and RTX3090 in 2023). I think LTS is also more handy for people who don't upgrade often and thus are running older hardware to begin with, which is quite a large percentage. The other perk of LTS is that you don't feel forced to run updates all the time or have to do a lot of research (Arch).
And that's because you're running nvidia which is using a proprietary driver that isn't in the kernel by default, isn't in mesa so you can get away with using a LTS distro like mint
This will change when users will be able to use NVK and you those users will need newer packages for the newest patches and Vulkan extensions
NTFS works fine, as long as you know how to deal with the potential issues, it would not work out of the box with proton, because of proton itself and the prefix for the game, but if proton and prefix is in another drive, everything will work, so, for people that know how to put JUST the game on the NTFS drive, everything will work.
also, BTRFS has windows drivers, so if the idea is to share files that can be read and write by both OS, BTRFS is a great option (also supports zstd compression), it has its own problems, but is more "Linux" friendly
(this is not a recommendation about NTFS, is a way to say, is completely possible with workarounds)
yes you are correct but we dont want users using ntfs when its not the recommended way of using proton, all the user is doing is putting stress and more research they dont have to do or deal with
its why i say that as a thing not to do as a new user, if your experienced or done the research before hand because you want to use ntfs then great go ahead but dont be surprised when proton breaks some of your games prefixes in the long run and you have to go fixing it again
its just not worth the effort for most new users, as you said your better off using btrfs on windows and linux and that should suffice
Yeah I think you're spot on for Linux Mint. Good distro and certainly an option, but if the recommendation is just use it for a while to eventually move to X distro, it depends what X distro is. I see no reason why a new user can't just hop on Fedora provided their hardware doesn't have issues with Wayland, Fedora is an incredible experience even for new users. I started on Debian and as outdated as it is I didn't even think that was too hard to figure out xd. Depends on the user ofc but yeah great analysis!
Fedora just makes you an unpaid beta tester for Redhat.
You don't ever "have" to "move on" to another distro if Mint works for you. I have to push back against the distrohopping argument because I just think a lot of Linux enthusiasts are too into it. Nothing wrong with switching to another distro, but if you're happy with what you're using, there is absolutely no shame in continuing to use it.
@@ringo8410 I personally like to push back against use "insert newbie friendly distro" because largely I believe it's total BS that actually limits people from more extensively learning linux. To tie yourself to one distro only replaces one master (Windows) with another wannabe version of it. You cannot tell whether the grass is greener on the other side of the fence unless you take a look. Too many ravings about Mint are done by people that have experienced nothing but Mint. There's no shame in using any distro. However, advice from those that have used more than one is imo far more valuable than that from those have used one and stuck with it.
@@erroneouscode It's always good to diversify, and I'm not going to tell you that Mint is the end-all be-all of the Linux experience. But the "gotta distrohop! Gotta keep moving!" mentality puts undue pressure on people who like the distro they're using perfectly fine.
Being comfortable is OK.
@@ringo8410 I'm not claiming you "gotta distrohop" I'm saying you don't know what you're missing unless you try other distros instead of relying on other peoples claims that you're a newbie and this is best for you, so you should use this first. It's total nonsense that's parroted adnauseam.
I stopped distro hopping years ago and settled on Manjaro on a couple of PC's and Arch pure on another. I learned and took SFA from using Mint for years that was applicable to other distro's. Mint held me back.
"being comfortable is OK" That can be interpreted as complacency which is fine until the heat is turned up just one notch to high for the slow boiling frog as is happening with windows users and they jump out. I don't think anyone thinks their distro is 100% fine which "perfect" or "perfectly" implies by definition.
If too much is done for you out of the box on a supposedly "newbie friendly distro" and you don't have something else to compare it with then how do you know it's perfectly fine? It gets the job done? Quite possibly. Can another distro get the job done better? Perhaps. You wont know unless you try. Those coming from a Windows environment have never had that choice to make before. Imo, you're fool if you don't take advantage of it and 'again' settle for something someone else says is best for you.
i heard endeavour os or arch ships basic packages for amd gpu but we need to install other mesa and driver packages if so which ones?
very informative video. Hope this channel grows and reach more ppl.
Another really useful video, Thanks 🙂. Im searching for some new Linux versions to try. Over the years Ive tried plenty of distros, but after several years of only Windows my brain had rotted a bit ;-) . Lately Ive been using Zorin, and it is perfect for someone detoxing from windows. I will watch some of your older videos to get some ideas of other distros to try. That linux kernel diagram you showed at 3:33 in was interesting, do you remember where you got it?
i just searched mesa userspace linux lol
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My second newbie Linux question is, I'm having dificulties making Linux work nicely on a old macbook 2015 model. I don't know i spent a some days finding a good distro that maches with my keyboard layout (swissgerman). control, option, command nothing maches and somehow don't work and only the right option works but then the combinations are not the ones on my layout etc. Even if I would like to custumize is somehow it intereferes with shortcuts from Linux and so on. Since I'm not a programmer I cannot make it work on my own and the workarounds are very counterintuitive. How do others deal with this situation?
distros wont change much, desktops do that, so what desktops have you tried?
@@linuxnext gnome, cosmic & manjaro I think...
@@linuxnext what would you aim for?
@@mariorobles87 Well it seems you have tried kde plasma already but the last distro you could try would be tuxedo os as they are from germany and you can contact them for support about this layout issue your trying to use
The latest kde plasma 6.2 should work tho with that keyboard layout in the keyboard settings
Main website
www.tuxedocomputers.com/index.php
The Distro they maintain
www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/TUXEDO-OS_1.tuxedo
Support
www.tuxedocomputers.com/index.php?coID=2&content=content_contact
Thanks for the heads up about Flatseal. I've been using KDE for a while now and wondered why network paths never came up in some applications. This tool (well KDE) should really have this as a default application or part of settings in the distro. Unfortunately Linux is still in the "you don't know what you know" category
kde has its own option in application permissions, flatpak permissions, most distros include this on kde plasma
if you want this package as i know arch based distros dont install it
the package is flatpak-kcm to get it
Having used only Windows since 3.11 it took me a long time to get comfortable on Linux but now I have I'd find it really hard to go back.
One example was the file system, with a bunch of cryptic folder names like etc, var, dev. Coming from Windows and having drive letters it seemed like nonsense at first. I did not understand why it's like that, how much more sense the Linux way makes and how much more power it gives to the user. Try moving your Users folder on Windows. You can't, or if you somehow manage it you will probably break your entire OS. Meanwhile my /home folder is located nicely on another drive from my Linux root folder.
Another one was file permissions, chmod 777 what the hell does that mean? But now I know the Linux way of owner group and other is much more secure and makes a lot of logical sense once you understand it.
And now I use KDE Plasma 6 which absolutely deletes Windows in terms of power, features and customisabilty. It is, in my opinion, the best desktop environment in the world right now and continues to improve with every update.
Then there's btrfs and snapper, paru making installing software a breeze (I use CachyOS btw) and most the games I play actually run better on Linux than Windows 11.
The only downside is you have to know what you are doing or be willing to learn a lot and adapt to alternatives to your ripoff Adobe software etc.
In regards to NTFS, one of my biggest issues is mounting additional drives for Steam to detect. How does one go about formatting and having Steam see example, Drive A: is main, Drive B: spare, Drive C: spare etc.
well on linux you dont have drive A, Drive B, there just folders so you can use a gui like kde partition manager or gnome disks to create a ext4 partition and tell where to mount them, so for me i mount mine under /games and /extragames, my friends ones are mounted under /hdd and /ssd then steam will detect them
Then if your using flatpak and want a application to see them or all of the flatpak apps to see them you just add the directory of where the folder/drive is mounted like /games or /extragames using flatseal
It's not "LTS" that it is about, it's point release (and immutable) vs rolling.
It's about how up to date the packages are for the distro. Fedora as you mention is a good example.
I use Arch, that is a rolling release, but I use the 6.6 LTS kernel. See? LTS has nothing to do with it.
For most things in this video the solution is all very simple:
If the distro does not provide what you need, look for a different distro.
Good video
Hey! Great tips! Was just wondering: what theme are you using? Love the blue-tinted dark theme you've got, and the dark taskbar compared to breeze dark!
Thanks :) It's catppuccin.com/
I install KDE connect in edeavours with cinnamon and wont resive files , but I can send files to others divices
I've had reasonable luck so far, getting nvidia going on Fedora KDE spin was admittedlly a bit of faffing around on desktop though. But that was my 2nd linux experience so by then I was quite comfortable in the terminal. Before that I had it on my 2022 laptop which has LMDE (Mint but based on Debian) and since that uses Intel graphics and very common Realtek WiFi literally every single thing worked perfect out of the box. I also (kind of for 'sport' for lack of better way of putting it) installed Lubuntu 24.10 just recently a much older 10-year old laptop. I missed that it was now using a MUCH newer kernel than Ubuntu used to... so when I saw it updating to the 6.11-08 kernel I figured it was dooomed, but it took it like a champ and rebooted fine. So now I have a decade-old quad-core 4GB ram laptop running linux 6.11 with the LXQt 2.0 desktop, kinda nuts. Runs surprisingly well in fact, aside from the bootup time which is rather slow but once the DE is up its very clean and minimalist with LXQt 2.0
You could do a research over net, and tell us what common mistakes have you found on help forums, or other citations etc. Plus adding your own talking and examples.
Damn I am so smart, gg ez. Joke aside, good video.
Garuda Linux with KDE Lite flavour on an nvidia laptop. Not looking back since.
Try adding separated system monitor widgets to the panel, change the appearance to grid view, and Plasma will crash. Here are the steps I took:
1. Added a CPU usage widget.
2. Added a GPU usage widget.
3. Added a RAM usage widget.
4. Added an internet speed widget.
All separate system monitors widgets . When I get to the internet speed in grid view, everything crashes.
Plasma 6.2.2 on arch am I doing something wrong?
I will test this very soon and reply back
nope i can not get the widgets to crash plasma even when changing the display style to grid view on any of the widgets you mentioned, if it continues to happen please report it to kde bugs with as much information as you can
bugs.kde.org/index.cgi
I would like to say as a intermediate user who has been using linux for 4 years now I have had a better experience with linux mint with the mesa ppa & xanmod kernel than I have had using something like fedora. Mix this with flatpak & your really not far behind. (I know you mentioned this) It is nice to have that more stable base with specific parts fully updated but I do agree I wish cinnamon wayland was in a better state but im aware that will take some time.
Question from a Linux Newbie. I was able to try out some distros the past weeks on old laptops for a project with kids where we play minecraft. CachyOS was recomended a lot and I like it, it seems to work fine and smooth, allthough I was a bit worried cause I heard somewhere that CachyOS is not ment to be runned on a old laptop preformancewise.
it uses packages and configs that may not improve perf on old laptops but its just arch in the end so it should be fine
it's insane how hybrid graphics (amd+nvidia) work better on linux than on windows. The only issue I have is flickering when I use Vsync with an x11 game (but I can just force wayland and yes, wine natively supports wayland and it works well) which is a hyprland+xwayland+nvidia issue. Of course the performance with VKD3D aren't great but they are not THAT bad either (but I still want my lost performance back)
Sadly my watercooler (gigabyte aorus waterforce x 280)
is not supported. There are no drivers for it on linux. As soon as I boot into Linux my Fans go crazy on 100% speed :( Sadly the fans are connected through USB directly to the watercooling.
well looking for drivers i found this :)
www.kernel.org/doc/html/v6.12-rc3/hwmon/gigabyte_waterforce.html
kernel 6.12 is coming out in the next couple of weeks so great timing lol
This is another great reason why using a newer distro is needed for newer hardware, if another person who was brand new to linux didnt know about that driver being merged into kernel 6.12 they would just not use linux again so using a newer distro is needed or atleast swapping the kernel out for a newer one on LTS distros
of course these drivers can be downstreamed also but it would still take a while and no one rlly talks about it to the public
seems that link is now gone and i cant find it in the changelogs of kernel 6.12
here is this tho, a driver for that watercooler that you could get running if you know what to do
github.com/amazonparrot/waterforce-hwmon
A few things.
1. I've never seen hardware not work in Linux Mint. If it wont work in Mint I can 99% guarantee it will not work on another distro. It likely just wont work on Linux.
2. Wyland sucks ass and is years away from being ready. x11 Simply works.
I've literally been using Wayland since Arch switched to it, and I've had exactly 0 issues with it whatsoever, something I can't say about X11, which crashed a lot, felt choppy and looked janky at times
@@adamraad8445 I would say you are the rare exception. Everyone I know who has tried wyland says its a pile of dog shit and I wholeheartedly agree. Meanwhile I've been using x11 since there has been x11 with no issues at all.
Im using Wayland since KDE 6 Release Date without huge flaws.
@@akaliweeb5305 I'm sure its getting better. But I've had nothing but issues with it. Most ppl I know are having nothing but issues.
Ive tried (and have been using) X11 for months, with my nvidia gpu on my laptop and its been notoriously buggy with issues, nvidia-xconfig makes it not even start, and having any environment variable so X11 actually *uses* my gpu causes so. many. errors. that KDE crashes every 5 seconds nor renders anything. I have to ditch all X11 configuration files and any environment variables to even have X11 work. (also I cant use hardware acceleration on X11.. wayland works fine.)
Then about 1 and a half months ago I finally tried out Wayland and.. I finally have smooth animations. I crash less. My transparent dock/panels arent black squares anymore with any graphical app open, they're actually transparent.. My desktop actually uses my GPU. The wayland screenshare portal is great. I am however on the Nvidia-560 drivers. That might be why, but I would 100% recommend updating drivers if you're on an older driver and just.. giving wayland another try. At least for me, it just works.
I'm waiting for XFCE supporting wayland. :P
It's just -20-30 fps on Unreal Engine games 😞
@@pajeetsingh hm? Which games are these? And is this on nvidia?
One game I play which is the finals I lose 5fps vs windows and that's unreal engine 5.3 or .2 I think
@@linuxnext Black Myth Wukong (UE 5), Lords of the Fallen 2024 (UE5? UE4?) Lies of P (probably UE 4) , Sons of the Forest (Unity) . I could not play these on Linux with my 2070 super at 1440p.
Elden Ring and Shadow of the Erdtree on the other ran smooth as Windows.
Dead by Daylight (UE4) runs great because it doesn't have too many things going on.
@@pajeetsingh Is that the issue with directx 12? I heard that on linux nvidia has bad performance in directx 12 games
@@notuxnobux yeah VKD3D sucks, but DXVK works well
My advice to new users if they want a "modern" system is to use GNOME or KDE, but they shouldn't stress about it.
There are plenty of good desktop environments that still run on X11, and most of the ones I'd recommend like Xfce, Cinnamon, or Mate are currently transitioning to Wayland anyway.
Compositors are too much of a hassle to bother configuring, especially when they don't know much at all about the rest of the system.
Frankly, X11 vs Wayland isn't something a new user should at all be concerned about in my honest opinion.
They should be concerned about it, x11 can't do vrr, HDR, multi monitors refresh rates by default
I know it depends on the user but if the user doesn't know and they can't use those features or get these issues, then the user will say "Linux is trash I'm moving back to windows" then that's the end of the story and they will spread that to their friends
We don't want that happening, first impressions are EVERYTHING :)
I installed Mint on my mom's old notebook. For now, works just fine. But I fear install a Distro on my notebook (i5 13°gen + RTX 3050), mostly because of Nvidia drivers.
@@IoannesPetrvs installing nvidia drivers nowadays is very easy, if your choosing mint again then it should be fine
Another distro I'm gonna be looking at that has great support for laptops is tuxedo os, they have fantastic support also as they are a laptop & desktop company/business
So if you have any questions I would 100% open a ticket about your laptop and see what they respond with as Iv been asking them tons of questions about their distro and they have been pretty quick with responses
www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/TUXEDO-OS_1.tuxedo
www.tuxedocomputers.com/index.php?coID=2&content=content_contact
I can't be the only person that finds wayland buggy af?! Like OBS keyboard shortcuts don't even work. That makes it unusable for me. Then there's the flickering in games. then there's games locking to the refresh rate of the second monitor. Switch x11 and zero issues. I can't be the only person. My cpu/gpu/board is pretty mainstream.
Don't use distros with outdated drivers and you will be fine. Nvidia driver 560 has fixed everything. Hyprland and games run buttery smooth. Not a single issue.
@@GalaxyTracker Nobara. PikaOS Fedora. NONE of them allow OBS keyboard shortcuts to work unless OBS window is active when on Wayland. It is not about distro age. This is the current state of this issue today right now in this moment.
You force OBS in xwayland, it's got nothing to do with which desktop you use, it's OBS that needs to implement the xdg desktop portal global shortcut key protocol and KDE plasma is the only desktop that supports it right now
You can force OBS in xwayland by turning off Wayland in flatseal or using a environment variable I forgot
Then KDE plasma has a permission x11 setting for allowing xwayland clients to see your inputs
run obs through xwayland, that will bring back keyboard shortcuts, i dont get flickering in games under arch, latest nvidia drivers 560 on kde plasma wayland, i also dont get the second monitor locking to the refresh
@@linuxnext That's the issue. Mine specifically. I'm new to Linux. 3-4 months. I can install Fedora Cinnamon that defaults to x11. Everything is easy peasy or works out of the box. I have no idea what xwayland is. I'm also not a big fan of using a thing to make another thing work because that leads to a bloated OS and then I mights well run Windows right? Like I'm not in left field thinking that if wayland is the way one of the most popular programs in the world should work right on it or at least the same as it does on x11. If one works and one doesn't why am I always being told x11 is dead and wayland is the future? The future isn't ready for primetime yet.
My mistakes, installing arch
@@bigbrain8839 it's all a learning experience :)
What a fragmented mess. I would rather use windows 11
I disagree, windows 11 and windows 10 are both poorly fragmented also having their past operating systems components being found and Microsoft taking years to move everything out of the control panel into the settings
At least on Linux our desktops don't have that going on at all
The only issue with "fragmentation" on Linux is our different toolkits like gtk for gnome, qt for plasma, iced for cosmic but all of the desktops are working together to sync your theme on whatever desktop your using so that it doesn't look like crap
Can't say the same with windows :)
Linux Mint, you say it does not use Wayland. It does. (Wilma 22) You can choose it or X.11 when you log in. Gotta love these inaccurate advice videos. The kernel update cycle has been increased in LTS to match Ubuntu so new hardware will work just fine out of the box.
Wayland on mint is experimental and it's not the default meaning it doesn't use wayland, it's also missing a decent amount of protocols and features and it's why it's experimental
Kernel updates are only one piece of the puzzle, your forgetting about mesa which is very important for playing games under AMD and Intel and has major patches for Wayland, Vulkan extensions for different Vulkan drivers, these don't get updates as much on LTS Distros so that's why I give that advice.
LTS Distros will never be good for the newest hardware for playing the latest games
And I said you can fix this yourself if you rlly like using LTS Distros but thats if the user knows how to do that and its why i state that in the video that a user should be trying a distro that offers newer packages so they get a better experience like fedora
ZORIN is better than MINT in my opinion for beginners.
Zorin is still on 22.04. 2 years out-of-date. Yikes! Also, there are a few layouts locked behind a paywall. Most people who switch to Linux want to get away from that BS.
Jfc, this catch all clickbait video is only for those trying to play their latest Steam library, no other consideration
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am using fedora Linux with gnome wayland but the one thing that will make me go full linux on all my pc is the anti-cheat if they fix it so i can game on linux like Fortnite or valorant without banned this will be amazing
Kernel-mode anti-cheat is so invasive, _we don't want it on Linux._ you're better off giving up playing those few titles, or get a console for those titles instead.
I'm sorry but that's not gonna happen anytime soon
20 minutes and not a single audible pause, just a constant stream of words! Woot!?
It's not my kind of videos, I find it very hard to consume! Appreciate the efforts nonetheless, but I just can't take this nonstop babbling. Please take a breath, add some time for your audience to digest some sentences. o) Otherwise, this is just a totally unnatural noise in (in may ears at least o). Thank you, be fine!
There is a thing called a pause button :)
I cant please everyone, if i start adding breaks then someone will say "what are these pauses that your making, this is making the video boring"
So i choose the majority which is to continue talking
Its rlly not my problem that you cant keep up with what im saying
@@linuxnext Yes, not your problem, I just thought I give some feedback! o) It's your channel, do whatever you think it makes it a success. I honestly doubt though, that this kind of cutting and talking will be appreciated by a greater audience. To me this was just an annoying noise, not necessarily talking or something I want to listen to for more than 1 minute, but I might be the only person feeling this way.
I still have the capability to watch or just listen to a video which is longer than 10-20 minutes, if the content is worth it, I also watch a 3h video.
The actual success of video is not defined by its total length I guess, it's the content that counts, right? If your content is boring, it probably does not help much, to cut the videos shorter, but that's just a guess and is not meant to be rude, just something to think about.
Have a nice day! o)