That's what I did at ten years old, I just up and installed ubuntu 16.04 one day after reading about linux in a book. I've moved on to better distros since then but it WORKED.
Also the most important skill in using Linux is learning to look stuff up and most importantly where to look. The Archwiki is great resource even if you are not using Arch/Arch-based distro despite it being tailored to the former, so heads up still.
I had to use Vim to fix a Virtual machine on Centos thanks to a practice, I fucking suffered trying to save my changes, I suffered to edit the damn thing and in the middle of my fuckkering I discovered that I is to enter insert mode I suffered when trying to quit before knowing how to save because in the middle of trying to save I did accidental changes that I felt could lead to disaster I suffered when all the fucking tutorials on how to dave and quit without saving just said "dur just type :q! Or :wq" whiteout mentioning that I had to press esc as the first step I suffered when after all this I couldn't fix the VM because the changes I was sent didn't work and the system didn't let me save em. Yep, vim is hell all of this happened to me in this week and I kinda understand all of these comments with my very very short interaction with Vim
@@urt1202 Yeah? good thing there is vimtutor, it only took me 10 minutes to learn from the first two chapters so i only know normal and insert mode, but i can tell you I edit everything with vim now and havent used nano ever since, but to each their own.
Yo don’t diss those coding videos, they can really help. I followed along with a 6 hour video C++ course, taking notes by writing the code alongside it, and that helped me out so much. (Shoutout Bro Code) It’s all about your process
I learnt beginner Python by watching the first 6 hours of Bro Code's 12 hour tutorial, solving many questions from a website dedicated for Python noobs, and that's it.
Years ago I had a pleasure of following "basic" GNU/Linux course where our teacher installed every computer without xorg or any DE/WM. So for a month or two we did nothing but learn the CLI and scripting and only after all that we were "allowed" to (re)install our school computers with GUI interface of our choice (KDE was mine). Fun times!
Real men install Arch by hand, it is a religious ritual that bonds you to your machine. Goddamn are these some upgrades though, can't believe I hadn't heard of wikiman before, you rule brother
goes to show you how hard we fumbled the miracle of computing. Everybody's phone has enough space on it for the entire sum of human knowledge, but instead of being shipped with a copy of Wikipedia or Britannica, they're shipped with a copy of Candy Crush and the Facebook app.
For me, it's the Linux Command Line, by William Shotts. I learn best from books, I'm weird like that. And trust me on this, this is the beginner Linux book that you want.
@@alexcamacho7569 holy smokes, looks like what I need, even after 3 years of mainly running Linux i still wanted to get some formal knowledge instead of relying on what i once read on StackOverflow
Idk man I still think too much command line scares people off so I still recommend mint for first timers. Maybe once you successfully try mint and learn how to use the command line there then you can try arch. Also it’s too easy to break an arch install having something more stable is much better for first timers. Borking your system by accident is a great way to want to go back to windows and never return to Linux
@ I do have that in mind. You must realize a lot of those people wanting to learn Linux may no longer want to learn Linux when confronted with too many frustrations due to the way they decide to learn it.
Last week I took one of my old laptops and did the bare minimal Arch install with DWM and I've been using that to force myself to learn the deeper parts of Linux. It's been a really good time and I think that battery is gonna last 10x what it did with Windows/Kali installed.
Reading manuals is really only useful if you understand what is being said in them, and that is much easier said than done - especially when learning linux for the first time. So imo, this is kinda terrible advice for someone looking to learn linux for the first time. You can't get familiar with something you have no points of reference to, and you only build what you know off of things you already know. So yes, start with the youtube videos and start with the things you are familiar with, but know that more details are available when you are ready for them. You don't give someone hundreds of pages of documentation and tell them to just "figure it out". They would have no idea where to start. And frankly, a lot of the information in the manuals is not needed when you are first starting out, so its not worth getting confused over those things before you are ready for them. Learning a big system like linux takes time. To be honest, it is a bit like learning a new language - you don't start out by reading whole books in the new language. Of course, the more you immerse yourself the faster you will learn - and that is why just downloading a distro and exploring is a great idea. But the point is, take your time and don't be afraid to use the resources that can actually help you at the start. And recommending vim? for beginners? really?? I get that it is a great tool but you CAN'T tell me you think it is beginner friendly. Idk, I feel like this is good advice for someone who is already pretty familiar with linux, but wants to learn more. But if I had to learn linux like this it would be a bit of a nightmare.
Man pages turn me off because they don't seem to provide simple basic usage of the command. Right away is a complete list of flags without even mentioning which ones are used 500 times more often than the other ones
The "tldr" program to give you the basic use case of most commands. I think it completes manpages well. Also, BSD-family manpages tend to be shorter than their GNU/Linux counterpart, and usually come with a nice example section. The point of manpages is that they are more of a reference for someone already familiar with the system and just wants to get the right incantation fast.
Thats kinda like saying you should read a dictionary if you want to learn English. Usage/experience is by far the best way to learn something alongside 2 questions: 1) What is your endgoal 2) Whats the best way to get there *for you*.
Assumes noobs know wtf man pages are, assumes noobs know how to effectively navigate vim, assumes noobs know what a bashrc or a bash is. Right after they installed linux for the first time. And that's all within 3 minutes. Is this a video to help people learn, or a video for existing experienced users to self-congratulate?
If you don't know what any of these basic things are then this is not the video for you like he states at the beginning the best way to learn is to get a system and find out stuff by navigating through the filesystem use Google to find answers
I'm just getting started and trying to cover my bases. And this is the exact kind of advice I've been looking for thank you so much for putting all this together
The only correct choice, yes. It has many more advantages over Manjaro. Been running it for many years now. I would even argue it is the best way to use arch linux unless you only want to use the CLI.
@@igorthelightI tried CachyOS a few months ago and was disappointed to see my games were running at similar FPS yet looked like 30hz (and you notice on a 240hz display). Looking back, *I think this was caused by the Blur My Shell gnome extension.* Either it was there by default and I didn't think anything of it, or I installed it and forgot it gives me this issue. It happens on Arch too so I cannot use that extension. Could be an nvidia related bug, I really don't know. Just dropping this here cuz CachyOS was mentioned and somebody might find this helpful / be able to help me out. Cuz I would love to use blur my shell 🥲
I learned the most by just jumping in and doing my best 🤷🏼♀️ fucked everything up in various ways and read and watched a ton of tutorials on how to fix those issues. I’ve had to reinstall arch twice because of my mistakes, and now I actually understand what I did wrong AND I now know how to install it without the script ✨ Just jump in! Learn along the way, don’t plan to figure it out in a day ☺️
the most helpful thing to learn linux is a second monitor in vertical with a decent search engine that still works if you forgot to install an network manager, screwed up your locale, fucked up half your partitions and decided to install experimental drivers for your gpu. Ask me how I know.
I don't use Arch any more, but when someone asks me how to learn linux I tell them to just use Arch for a few months. There are parallels with recommendations how to learn programming - by learning C first. Both are minimal, require you to understand things a little bit deeper, but at the same time are simple and can be used to build virtually anything.
Great video as always. Being able to view the Arch wiki from the CLI is really really cool. I really got into Linux because of your and Luke Smith's videos back in 2020, it's been a huge life changer for me. Thank you for the content bro.
The value you get from learning Linux is insane, you will improve at not just Linux and IT-administration but also problem solving. Once you have learned how to recover your OS from a boot-drive there is almost no limit to the f*cking around you can do.
Oh yes. I'm a historian, but just using Linux means I don't care what breaks with my system, I know I will find a solution, at least as long as it's not hardware failure. Even then, I fall into ThinkPad meme and can everything that doesn't require soldering.
0:55 was surprised at first to see this scene 😂. It's from a really good Bangladeshi 🇧🇩 drama. (I'm from Bangladesh 🇧🇩) But anyway, the best way I found to learn Linux is to get my hands dirty. When I was starting with Linux, I was looking for which distro to install. Then I came across Arch and everyone was saying it's not for beginners, and I immediately knew which one I was gonna start with (I use Arch btw, since the start of my Linux journey). I told myself that I would break the system a couple of times if I have to but I'm gonna get some hands-on experience and learn from the docs and stuff.
Distros like Pop and Mint have visual installers that Windows users can easily navigate. It doesn't have to be this way. The only thing I've ever really had to look up on Mint Linux was programming stuff, and Linux UI scaling and scrolling can still be total garbage, so that was ass. But otherwise. I easily recommend Linux Mint to a grandma. It works great. It even auto updates if you want.
i honestly love how robust mint is, hardly a chance for the average joe to mess anything up during install. the only time i was ever tempted to swap from it was when i learned about garuda last month.
How I learned Linux is that I just fiddled around with my system, and over time I learned how stuff works. I started off with Linux Mint, but after having to deal with my install breaking when attempting to update it to a new point release, I realized it would just be easier to go over to something like Arch, where it is rolling release, and I have more control over my system, also I had used it a bit in the past, and in that short time, I had really enjoyed it. Both distros helped me in their own ways. Linux Mint helped me get comfortable with Linux, while Arch has helped me better understand the details of what makes my system function. My arch Install which is about 2 years old now is the most stable Linux experience I've ever had (it's the same install I've had since I started daily driving Arch)... things don't break out of nowhere, and if something breaks, it is because of something I did, and I can then figure out what it was that I did that broke it.
VIM users often get called edgy, but this is another example why VIM is great. If one is just programming, I get it why they wouldn't want to learn VIM. But as soon as one is often handling text, VIM is just worth it. Especially since the VIM keystrokes often can be used in other programs as well, for example Firefox or Obsidian.
When I was around 14 I was dual booting Debian and Windows. I managed to brick my Windows install and decided to just run with Debian. About 6 months in after seeing dozens of tutorials of how to do basic system administrator through the command line. I started writing bash scripts to automate little things. I thought, "why not learn a real language?" I had always hated programming not because I found it to be unintuitive, but because I'd struggled grasping IDEs. Being able to write C code in a text editor and then run the compiler through command line which I had become so accustom to, made it easy and quick to write whatever programme I'd like. I wanted to understand how this was translating to something the operating system and even hardware understood. With Linux as a development environment it's very easy to peer into these things. My experience has been, that it's just fun to fuck around with Linux, your software stack etc. It gives a really easy way to start programming compared to on Windows with an IDE. Linux has been a tool that has taught me more than almost anything. That being said, I have many Virtual Machines on my Server that I manage. However I have not run bare metal Linux for a desktop machine for years.
Weeelllll aksshhhuaalllyyy....... Tundra is a biome in the northern hemisphere and penguins are only found in the southern hemisphere :) So you would want to go to the west coast of South Africa, for instance, to live among the penguins at Stony Point. The tundra is where you would probably find the polar bears
A trick that I am using now, is I created a list of commands I am learning in a txt file, then I use the cat command to display the list out at the terminal when it opens, by adding cat ~/file.txt at the bottom of my bashrc file. I keep the list short and concise as possible but it keeps them at my fingertips while committing them to memory.
Arch is my first linux distro, I installed it and configured it manually while using the Archwiki and SOG's tutorial. I still have to dualboot windows to play Counter Strike, but the gaming experience is great whenever the game doesn't have a bad anti-cheat. Overall Arch is a lot better than Windows if set up properly.
The bar to beat Windows 11 is low and keeps getting lower tbh If a Linux distro can't get better performance numbers on the same computer than the Micheal's Soft Bloatware Extravaganza I'd be kinda disappointed
@@rickyGman11 I find the native version of CS2 hella stuttery on Linux, and you can't even use Proton because VAC will shit itself. I also use faceit and the kernel level AC only runs on Windows
Having Arch wiki mentioning grub at the end before partitioning the disks isn't good either and causes headaches on newbies... But it gives alot of skill and now I use nix
I wouldn't be so sure it's the wrong channel. under the pager video all the antisemitic rats came out of their holes in the comments. it was beyond baffling. I just don't understand the obsession with the incident. the two countries came to an agreement and one decided to pay all the demanded compensations to the US.
@@ghosthunter0950 Lmao, funny how you conveniently sweep a ridiculous and serious attack by an "ally" as bygones because they "paid" after being cought. Imagine catching your significant other cheating but everything should be okay because they paid compensation. Yeah the trust in that person wont recover nor will that person be a good person worth the effort.
You made me a linux user ditched windows in 2020 Used manjaro for 2 years straight, now i'm on mint. It was because of one of your videos and you were saying something about doing hard things.
I’ve installed arch a few days ago and everything just works? Honestly like it took quite a bit overcoming all the fears of using such a „difficult“ distro but man, I really regret not going with it sooner. Whatever you wanna do or whatever issue there is there’s a simple answer just one search away. Setting it up was quite nice too, following the installation guide wasn’t really difficult and getting all of the functionalities and programs I need was absolutely easy.
I disagree... I was a Linux Noob 10 years ago and it was hell learning from the command line and with very little able to be done through the GUI. The GUI to do most things and then learning the command line slowly as I needed things was way better when I tried Linux again 5 years ago and today i'm a power user.
remember that according to a 2022 study roughly 20% of americans age 18 or older are straight up illiterate, meaning they CANT read the manual. that same study also claims that roughly 54% of adults read at below a 6th grade reading level.
Guys…I accidentally ran a command line and deleted all my files!!! How do I fix this? I work for the NSA, I deleted all our data, PLEASE HELP BEFORE I AM FIRED.
nope. What linux people willl never get in their head is: You're accustomed to an environment. Environments are the hardest to learn, since you need references for problem solving, but you can only see very little indicators that might lead you on the right path. That's not a linux thing, that's a general thing. You will never ever utilize your actual capabilities in a new environment. LINUX USERS FORGET THAT THEY KNOW THE ENVIRONMENT. The worst part is that, 99% learned a lot of this environment not in a manual, but by just spending time in that environment and not effectively solving a bunch of problems. Because there is also a major bigger problem: Linux is in some way consistent, but in some areas not. Which is absolutely terrible for searching for fixes. Forks will ultimately do that. The amount of times I installed linux and a BASIC FUNCTION WAS BROKEN is absoluetly fuckin insane. If windows had 1% of the failure rate people would actually go insane. (you can shit onn windows all you want, it's not even close in errors upon install) The most insane thing linux users say is that some distros are basically as easy to use as windows. WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU NEVER SAT DOWN WITH OFFICE WINDWOS USER AND LET THEM USE THE DISTRO THE FIRST TIME WITHOUT HELPING THEM. NO LITTLE HINTS AND EXPLANATIONS. Do some experiments with windows users, you will get answers you don't like. Linux has to go a fuckin bunch of milestones until it becomes actually viable for the broader spectrum. The 2020s arent it. Man I love linux, but the users live in their singlepoint bubble and it's the biggest reason why it is not more user friendly.
Yeah, people with years of experience with Windows have issues when the use the first time Linux. Or have you ever sat down with a person who was using a computer for the first time? I doubt it.
6 months ago, I had only ever used Windows. Now, I've been daily-driving Arch for months. As a big Linux believer, who has only relatively recently seen the light, I must say... The time investment is far too great for the average person to ever care about. Because you _will_ face a lot of bs, but everything does have a solution. For better or for worse, the average person just doesn't give a fck about their OS, so long as it can access their files, a web browser, and play their Steam games.
really thank for last one. I did hear about tldr and similar things, but not about offline tty wiki. Would save me from need of firing up laptop while arch install to open wiki.
My friends are panicking due to the end of Windows 10. This will be of great use, thank you! They'll learn the penguin or they will fry. Such is life. Garuda has been the best distro ive ever used. (Gaming focused) Endeavor is basically base arch with a few QoL tweaks. Sped up my HP Envy a mass amount as soon as install completed. I gotta thank microsoft for Co-Pilot and Apple for Intelligence getting people to switch incredibly fast.
@@AB0BA_69 i'm guessing you haven't heard about what steam has been up to the past few years? leutris as well? hell, steam has advanced it so damn much that almost any distro could be running games now with proton
I learned Arch when it was still RTFM instillation. Practiced 50x times on a VM, wrote hand-notes on installing audio drivers, picking the right desktop environment, wifi drivers, even dual booting with a bitlocked Windows 8. It still took me a week to install the dual-booted Arch properly because of stupid mistakes like not including my user to the wheel group, accidentally not assigning a password to root, messing up the partitioning by either going a block to far and breaking everything on reboot and more. It was fun, and really helped me towards getting my dream job. Now I use Fedora cause I'm lazy, and dnf/rpmf gives me a similar experience to pacman/aur .
I can also vouch for fedora linux, very stable but just a heads up it only comes with open source drivers so if you need any proprietary drivers you’ll have to install them yourself
Commenting from my manually and freshly installed arch install. Took 3 serious tries and some hours but I got it. Feels good, definitely a learning experience. I can now tell everyone I know that I use arch by the way.
@olnnn cachyOS deviates for the good tho, endeavoir is basically just preconfigured arch. cachyOS focusses on speed and security and has a custom kernel and some good software to achive that
@@bacalhau_seco Oh sure, not implying that CachyOS is bad. And tbf unlike manjaro it's still mostly trying to keep in sync and compatible with upstream arch just with optimized builds some extra packages and helper tools rather than this weird holding back packages and curating thing that manjaro is doing.
I've been using Linux off and on for almost 30 years. I only just switched to Linux on the desktop this year. Been using it on servers for a long time. I've tried Linux desktop every year for 30 years as well. Always switched back to Windows or Mac before because of one issue or another. But this year was truly the year of the Linux desktop for me. I finally am able to do all my work I need to do on it. and yes. I use Arch BTW and I installed it myself not with the installer script (because I'm booting off ZFS and that's not supported by the installer yet).
Android, ChromeOS, Steam Deck in smaller extent... Raspberry pi and other SBC too... Normie barely use anything more than Web browser and file manger/explorer to access file on USB storage or something. Rare one use dedicated mail app/program.
1:44 About the multiple hour long "programming language" videos: You have a human going over all the basic features of a language WITH examples and what I get from these types of videos is that you just look at what the dude is writing and listen to what he is saying and then you just open up a text file and write in the same things. Because in my opinion, this is why they exist. You watch an hour a day or something like that and you have all the code written by the dude in your own directory somewhere and since they mostly are structured by topics, like a documentation page for any language, you just name the files "topic1.cpp", "topic2.cpp" or "helloworld.cpp", "if-else.cpp" and so on. I doubt ANYONE watches these 10 hour long tutorial sitting still and not trying to rewrite any code from the videos :/ I mean, when you were taught in school about math concepts were you just listening or were you also been writing and reading, and maybe even solving some problems related to the topic?
I actually installed my arch without the script as a complete beginner, doing this is not hard it just takes “don’t freak out, it’s going to be alright” and “just keep reading the arch wiki until it works you got this.”
Nu-Windows is easy if you don't value your money (buying new expensive hardware) or time (waiting forever for the OS to do something that in earlier versions took seconds)
Kenny, you should make a video on how to make our own decentralized, anonymized and secure networks. When TPTB threaten the existence of sites like Internet Archive, we need to create the next versions in ways that are impossible to take down, and with an easy way to add nodes for storage and contribute to the preservation of the files.
Yup. I did it the VM way and then did it the extra hard way when I messed up my installation on my main laptop the first time so I had to redo it while looking up how to fix it on my phone. It was fun. Command line is great when you figure it out. I don’t get why people are so scared to at least try it out. It works just as great as windows for basic things and the jobs I’ve worked on had Linux as “preferred” when working on projects. It’s a great toolset to have compared to just using windows or Mac
People are scared of it because they don’t want to learn it and it seems like a waste of time. For 90% of people it is a waste of time, which is why the average person never uses a CLI.
@ I mean if your job doesn’t require it and you have no reason to learn it whether it’s for a career change or because it’s interesting then yeah you’re right. It’s very niche so there is no reason to jump through hoops.
I think starting with mint and learning then switching to Debian and learning until you can finally do arch install yourself is the best way to go about it. You form tons of knowledge just using mint and then Debian and you solidify and learn even more once you do the arch setup. Just follow the wiki, it’s genuinely rlly easy
@@Noneofyourbusiness2000 Having tutorials make it easier. But if you want to learn it by trying it, you're completely free to do it still. Not everyone learned it by using it, that's why there are so many windows tutorials.
@JosephAlnasl I've used it. That's not why I mentioned this. It's more about adoption. I want enough people using Linux that Autodesk supports it. There are those of this that can only use Windows because of industry specific software.
@@Noneofyourbusiness2000 I don't know what that has to do with the topic but, unfortunately, some developers don't want to make their software available for linux. I think it's up to the users of the software to ask the developers.
Manpages? VIM? Htop? The commands "that I want to use"? My man, you're pretty damn far from having a realistic view of where people who consider switiching to Linux and learning it stand. We need to be taken by the hand and be spoon-fed a somewhat linear learning experience. This video turned me off attempting the journey to begin with.
In college, I took a programmers' Unix class. It was pretty decent at teaching terminal commands. The way I actually used how to daily-drive Linux was installing Mint and...using it! All the university classes in the world can teach you how to use commands, or how permissions work. But until you're using your own system and run into a situation where you need to know how do something in the terminal, it doesn't give you the full breadth of Linux and what it can do. So yeah....the best way to learn is to do.
@@Anonymous4045 Most people learn basic things for their smartphones without reading. As windows becomes worse for power users it becomes better for them. Recall might scare some people, but many are fine with co pilot.
I learned how to use GNU/Linux extensively over the last couple of years out of interest in server hosting. The command line really started to click with me after getting into Proxmox and Ubuntu Server and having a reason to use it. Starting off, I was very strict on learning the command line and refusing any sort of GUI desktop environment to fall back on. I think that alone made the Linux CLI make perfect sense to me. I daily drive macOS now, and even there a lot of my computing tasks are done inside of a terminal. Same with using Homebrew for managing/installing all my apps.
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Learn by doing. Learn by breaking. Learn by fixing. Soon you'll be an entry level IT professional and go: "Oh shit, I know all of this."
100% true!
Instead hardwork and repeating just read instructions that’s all
Real SDLC is getting a great idea, fucking it up horrendously in implementation, cursing profusely, and trying to figure out how you borked it all.
You'll sure be fixing something everyday trying to daily Linux.
@@kaydog890Arch, probably. Mint, no.
"The Best Way to Learn Linux" Just be ballsy and start using it, like learning anything else.
That's what I did at ten years old, I just up and installed ubuntu 16.04 one day after reading about linux in a book. I've moved on to better distros since then but it WORKED.
Bonus points for doing it via Gentoo Handbook the Allmighty
Also the most important skill in using Linux is learning to look stuff up and most importantly where to look. The Archwiki is great resource even if you are not using Arch/Arch-based distro despite it being tailored to the former, so heads up still.
Rawdogging it is the only way to go
Cant my wifi card doesnt work in linux and i have no ethernet
Yeah, the arch installer is great when it fucking works
hey man I got it successfully installed with DWM on the 11th attempt. 😂 Don't try to install Pipewire through ArchInstall or you'll break everything.
Real as hell though, that fucker failed on me during an install consistently at one point
Worked first try for me though, strange.
@@ItsMeLMNHD Exactly, the version from this month is not working. I'm working now in the original way to install it
I have experienced so many failures in archinstall that I’m convinced it’s there to troll newbies
"Read the Linux manual using vim" is like "Fly the plane using your astronaut training"
It's just J and K THOUGH.
I useemacs to navigate on it 😜
"Have a headache? Just do some brain surgery on yourself to fix it!"
I had to use Vim to fix a Virtual machine on Centos thanks to a practice, I fucking suffered trying to save my changes, I suffered to edit the damn thing and in the middle of my fuckkering I discovered that I is to enter insert mode
I suffered when trying to quit before knowing how to save because in the middle of trying to save I did accidental changes that I felt could lead to disaster
I suffered when all the fucking tutorials on how to dave and quit without saving just said "dur just type :q! Or :wq" whiteout mentioning that I had to press esc as the first step
I suffered when after all this I couldn't fix the VM because the changes I was sent didn't work and the system didn't let me save em.
Yep, vim is hell all of this happened to me in this week and I kinda understand all of these comments with my very very short interaction with Vim
@@urt1202 Yeah? good thing there is vimtutor, it only took me 10 minutes to learn from the first two chapters so i only know normal and insert mode, but i can tell you I edit everything with vim now and havent used nano ever since, but to each their own.
Crucify me if you must, I stand by Linux Mint as a truly great choice for anyone who is sick of windows but doesn't want to deal with Arch
Yeah, the amount of windows users who would use up their time *studying* how to use a distro is like 0.01%
@@Wiiownyou bingo
@@EAEAAAEAEE Most of us were windows users once. You do not change to get into Linux, Linux changes you. 😎
arch is great but i dont want to be engineering on my time off
That's the reason why I just went with Pop os. I mean, yeah I wouldn't mind learning Arch, but I like the stability and just getting stuff done.
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Yo don’t diss those coding videos, they can really help. I followed along with a 6 hour video C++ course, taking notes by writing the code alongside it, and that helped me out so much. (Shoutout Bro Code)
It’s all about your process
Word. Taking notes? What crazy new technology is that???
but did u learn it tho?
@@1Lll_llllllLLLLllllll_llL1 Yeah I learned a lot. After I finished the code I started working on prjects, using the notes to help back me up.
Traditional is best way to learn 😂
I learnt beginner Python by watching the first 6 hours of Bro Code's 12 hour tutorial, solving many questions from a website dedicated for Python noobs, and that's it.
Downloading the arch wiki is such a good idea, can’t believe I never considered this.
@@nullnull-ig8st kiwix is good for this
do you know how to download it?
@@iskier429 kiwix
@@iskier429 I also believe that the iso comes with a terminal version of the manual as well
There's also arch-wiki-lite which is only 16.5MB
(Found by searching for "wiki" on Arch Linux Packages website, on my phone)
Years ago I had a pleasure of following "basic" GNU/Linux course where our teacher installed every computer without xorg or any DE/WM. So for a month or two we did nothing but learn the CLI and scripting and only after all that we were "allowed" to (re)install our school computers with GUI interface of our choice (KDE was mine). Fun times!
That sounds pretty fun.
Great teacher tbh.
Was his name Mr Miyagi?
Real men install Arch by hand, it is a religious ritual that bonds you to your machine.
Goddamn are these some upgrades though, can't believe I hadn't heard of wikiman before, you rule brother
Connects you to the machine spirit.
@Ihatetheglowies God's Temple is only open to one man, and he's writing a new compiler for heaven now
@@SuperM00b From the moment I realized the weakness of Windows it disgusted me
Arch are for noobs. Gentoo is for real IT people.
@@SuperM00b Praise the omnisiah!
It's amazing to me that you can fit so much information in 160MB. Like, that would be 1 min of high quality video of my cat from my smartphone camera
goes to show you how hard we fumbled the miracle of computing. Everybody's phone has enough space on it for the entire sum of human knowledge, but instead of being shipped with a copy of Wikipedia or Britannica, they're shipped with a copy of Candy Crush and the Facebook app.
160MB this video ? 56MB in 1920x1080 (HD Video Converter Factory Pro download)
@@f.p.1931 The entire ArchWiki is 160MB
There's also arch-wiki-lite which is only 16.5MB
(Found by searching "wiki" on Arch Linux Packages, on my phone)
@@f.p.1931YTDLnis gang
0:18 Actually, Arch Linux is sneeding edge for schizophrenics who love to rebuild their system (I fw debian heavy btw)
For me, it's the Linux Command Line, by William Shotts. I learn best from books, I'm weird like that. And trust me on this, this is the beginner Linux book that you want.
Second this
you ever tried overthewire?
If anyone wants the book, the author has a free pdf copy on his website
thanks
@@alexcamacho7569 holy smokes, looks like what I need, even after 3 years of mainly running Linux i still wanted to get some formal knowledge instead of relying on what i once read on StackOverflow
Idk man I still think too much command line scares people off so I still recommend mint for first timers. Maybe once you successfully try mint and learn how to use the command line there then you can try arch. Also it’s too easy to break an arch install having something more stable is much better for first timers. Borking your system by accident is a great way to want to go back to windows and never return to Linux
The real reason to recommend mint is that arch gives normies zero benefit
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@@AB0BA_69 True! Arch is literally just a toy for hobbyists. Stop recommending it to people who just want a working OS.
Well keep in mind, he made this video for people who actually want to learn Linux
@ I do have that in mind. You must realize a lot of those people wanting to learn Linux may no longer want to learn Linux when confronted with too many frustrations due to the way they decide to learn it.
I dabbled with Linux on and off for years, early this year I installed Arch and started reading the wiki. Now I’m daily driving it and loving it.
My condolences
@@mark8200 your mum already passed them on, so no need.
Last week I took one of my old laptops and did the bare minimal Arch install with DWM and I've been using that to force myself to learn the deeper parts of Linux. It's been a really good time and I think that battery is gonna last 10x what it did with Windows/Kali installed.
"The best way to learn Linux is man pages in Vim" said no one ever, such mental thoughts should be outlawed.
Say that again...
Absolutely agree. Unless you are using ed or vi, your heart just isn't in it.
Reading manuals is really only useful if you understand what is being said in them, and that is much easier said than done - especially when learning linux for the first time. So imo, this is kinda terrible advice for someone looking to learn linux for the first time. You can't get familiar with something you have no points of reference to, and you only build what you know off of things you already know. So yes, start with the youtube videos and start with the things you are familiar with, but know that more details are available when you are ready for them.
You don't give someone hundreds of pages of documentation and tell them to just "figure it out". They would have no idea where to start. And frankly, a lot of the information in the manuals is not needed when you are first starting out, so its not worth getting confused over those things before you are ready for them. Learning a big system like linux takes time. To be honest, it is a bit like learning a new language - you don't start out by reading whole books in the new language. Of course, the more you immerse yourself the faster you will learn - and that is why just downloading a distro and exploring is a great idea. But the point is, take your time and don't be afraid to use the resources that can actually help you at the start.
And recommending vim? for beginners? really?? I get that it is a great tool but you CAN'T tell me you think it is beginner friendly. Idk, I feel like this is good advice for someone who is already pretty familiar with linux, but wants to learn more. But if I had to learn linux like this it would be a bit of a nightmare.
Read moar.
Completely agree.
Agree
tlwr
Man pages turn me off because they don't seem to provide simple basic usage of the command. Right away is a complete list of flags without even mentioning which ones are used 500 times more often than the other ones
Sometimes yes. But when you read a man page and it gives you exactly what you were after, it's really satisfying.
Fortifyve is a gambler
The "tldr" program to give you the basic use case of most commands. I think it completes manpages well. Also, BSD-family manpages tend to be shorter than their GNU/Linux counterpart, and usually come with a nice example section. The point of manpages is that they are more of a reference for someone already familiar with the system and just wants to get the right incantation fast.
neovim man pages about to change my life i had no idea
@@Bartweenius-Jaroofenzsteinkle frfr
Thats kinda like saying you should read a dictionary if you want to learn English. Usage/experience is by far the best way to learn something alongside 2 questions: 1) What is your endgoal 2) Whats the best way to get there *for you*.
More like learning a conlang by reading its dictionary and rules. Aka it is designed from description and as such it can be easily described
The way you outlined each scenario which led to the “why” for each utility was well done!
Assumes noobs know wtf man pages are, assumes noobs know how to effectively navigate vim, assumes noobs know what a bashrc or a bash is. Right after they installed linux for the first time. And that's all within 3 minutes. Is this a video to help people learn, or a video for existing experienced users to self-congratulate?
If you don't know what any of these basic things are then this is not the video for you like he states at the beginning the best way to learn is to get a system and find out stuff by navigating through the filesystem use Google to find answers
Man pages just is a reference book to all the commands on Linux
@@gigino780I’m relatively new to Linux and I didn’t know that
You really want a tutorial for everything???
Yes@@Tman1000-be7op
"Commandlinephobia" 😂😂😂 Damn this explains what I had when I started working in the IT.
Arch Wiki is an absolute gem!
I'm just getting started and trying to cover my bases. And this is the exact kind of advice I've been looking for thank you so much for putting all this together
I'd recommend EndeavourOS over Manjaro, but great tips for everything else, like the tldrs and local wiki :o
The only correct choice, yes. It has many more advantages over Manjaro. Been running it for many years now.
I would even argue it is the best way to use arch linux unless you only want to use the CLI.
@@malformedneutron CachyOS is the new kid in town. It's selling point: it's an Arch where everything is compiled and tweeked for speed.
@@igorthelight interesting, I'll check it out. Been using EndeavourOS for a while without issues too though
@@igorthelightI tried CachyOS a few months ago and was disappointed to see my games were running at similar FPS yet looked like 30hz (and you notice on a 240hz display).
Looking back, *I think this was caused by the Blur My Shell gnome extension.* Either it was there by default and I didn't think anything of it, or I installed it and forgot it gives me this issue. It happens on Arch too so I cannot use that extension. Could be an nvidia related bug, I really don't know.
Just dropping this here cuz CachyOS was mentioned and somebody might find this helpful / be able to help me out. Cuz I would love to use blur my shell 🥲
I run Endeavour, but I'm not really sure why, I don't use any of the endeavour tools
after many distro hops I finally landed on Mint and its has everything I setup out of the box and is very intuitive for me. Its my current favourite.
I learned the most by just jumping in and doing my best 🤷🏼♀️ fucked everything up in various ways and read and watched a ton of tutorials on how to fix those issues. I’ve had to reinstall arch twice because of my mistakes, and now I actually understand what I did wrong AND I now know how to install it without the script ✨
Just jump in! Learn along the way, don’t plan to figure it out in a day ☺️
the most helpful thing to learn linux is a second monitor in vertical with a decent search engine that still works if you forgot to install an network manager, screwed up your locale, fucked up half your partitions and decided to install experimental drivers for your gpu. Ask me how I know.
I don't use Arch any more, but when someone asks me how to learn linux I tell them to just use Arch for a few months. There are parallels with recommendations how to learn programming - by learning C first. Both are minimal, require you to understand things a little bit deeper, but at the same time are simple and can be used to build virtually anything.
Why no more Arch? Just asking 🙄
Great video as always. Being able to view the Arch wiki from the CLI is really really cool.
I really got into Linux because of your and Luke Smith's videos back in 2020, it's been a huge life changer for me. Thank you for the content bro.
The value you get from learning Linux is insane, you will improve at not just Linux and IT-administration but also problem solving. Once you have learned how to recover your OS from a boot-drive there is almost no limit to the f*cking around you can do.
Oh yes. I'm a historian, but just using Linux means I don't care what breaks with my system, I know I will find a solution, at least as long as it's not hardware failure. Even then, I fall into ThinkPad meme and can everything that doesn't require soldering.
Problem is, 99% of companies dont use Linux beyond maybe a server
I learned by installing Gentoo following your videos from years ago
0:55 was surprised at first to see this scene 😂. It's from a really good Bangladeshi 🇧🇩 drama. (I'm from Bangladesh 🇧🇩) But anyway,
the best way I found to learn Linux is to get my hands dirty. When I was starting with Linux, I was looking for which distro to install. Then I came across Arch and everyone was saying it's not for beginners, and I immediately knew which one I was gonna start with (I use Arch btw, since the start of my Linux journey). I told myself that I would break the system a couple of times if I have to but I'm gonna get some hands-on experience and learn from the docs and stuff.
Ikr😂
Gonna love grub-btrfs and timeshift. Saved me a bunch of time when messing arround in arch.
the best way to learn is to break things. Having an environment where you have the safety of breaking things is the best.
I broke boot process last night, this video pops up. Great timing.
Distros like Pop and Mint have visual installers that Windows users can easily navigate. It doesn't have to be this way. The only thing I've ever really had to look up on Mint Linux was programming stuff, and Linux UI scaling and scrolling can still be total garbage, so that was ass. But otherwise. I easily recommend Linux Mint to a grandma. It works great. It even auto updates if you want.
i honestly love how robust mint is, hardly a chance for the average joe to mess anything up during install. the only time i was ever tempted to swap from it was when i learned about garuda last month.
Excellent advice, wish I started here, but I’m not too far down the path, thanks so much for the concise direction
Thanks Kenny that sounds super useful
How I learned Linux is that I just fiddled around with my system, and over time I learned how stuff works.
I started off with Linux Mint, but after having to deal with my install breaking when attempting to update it to a new point release, I realized it would just be easier to go over to something like Arch, where it is rolling release, and I have more control over my system, also I had used it a bit in the past, and in that short time, I had really enjoyed it. Both distros helped me in their own ways. Linux Mint helped me get comfortable with Linux, while Arch has helped me better understand the details of what makes my system function.
My arch Install which is about 2 years old now is the most stable Linux experience I've ever had (it's the same install I've had since I started daily driving Arch)... things don't break out of nowhere, and if something breaks, it is because of something I did, and I can then figure out what it was that I did that broke it.
VIM users often get called edgy, but this is another example why VIM is great. If one is just programming, I get it why they wouldn't want to learn VIM. But as soon as one is often handling text, VIM is just worth it. Especially since the VIM keystrokes often can be used in other programs as well, for example Firefox or Obsidian.
When I was around 14 I was dual booting Debian and Windows. I managed to brick my Windows install and decided to just run with Debian. About 6 months in after seeing dozens of tutorials of how to do basic system administrator through the command line. I started writing bash scripts to automate little things. I thought, "why not learn a real language?" I had always hated programming not because I found it to be unintuitive, but because I'd struggled grasping IDEs. Being able to write C code in a text editor and then run the compiler through command line which I had become so accustom to, made it easy and quick to write whatever programme I'd like. I wanted to understand how this was translating to something the operating system and even hardware understood. With Linux as a development environment it's very easy to peer into these things. My experience has been, that it's just fun to fuck around with Linux, your software stack etc. It gives a really easy way to start programming compared to on Windows with an IDE. Linux has been a tool that has taught me more than almost anything.
That being said, I have many Virtual Machines on my Server that I manage. However I have not run bare metal Linux for a desktop machine for years.
Move to the tundra and live with the penguins to truly learn arch
Weeelllll aksshhhuaalllyyy....... Tundra is a biome in the northern hemisphere and penguins are only found in the southern hemisphere :)
So you would want to go to the west coast of South Africa, for instance, to live among the penguins at Stony Point. The tundra is where you would probably find the polar bears
A trick that I am using now, is I created a list of commands I am learning in a txt file, then I use the cat command to display the list out at the terminal when it opens, by adding cat ~/file.txt at the bottom of my bashrc file. I keep the list short and concise as possible but it keeps them at my fingertips while committing them to memory.
Arch is my first linux distro, I installed it and configured it manually while using the Archwiki and SOG's tutorial. I still have to dualboot windows to play Counter Strike, but the gaming experience is great whenever the game doesn't have a bad anti-cheat. Overall Arch is a lot better than Windows if set up properly.
The bar to beat Windows 11 is low and keeps getting lower tbh
If a Linux distro can't get better performance numbers on the same computer than the Micheal's Soft Bloatware Extravaganza I'd be kinda disappointed
Unless you are playing faceit cs works like a charm on linux
???? Valve's steam deck is built off arch, valve is continuously working and helping out with arch. Why would their biggest game not run on arch?
@@rickyGman11 I find the native version of CS2 hella stuttery on Linux, and you can't even use Proton because VAC will shit itself. I also use faceit and the kernel level AC only runs on Windows
@@bialas355Native Linux versions of games are known to be 💩, but CS2 being one of them is.. equally disappointing & baffling.
Downloading the Arch wiki is a great suggestion.
Having Arch wiki mentioning grub at the end before partitioning the disks isn't good either and causes headaches on newbies...
But it gives alot of skill and now I use nix
Bro I have JUST been getting started with it,this timing is pristine
Never forget the USS liberty and the something something.
Wait wrong channel.
I wouldn't be so sure it's the wrong channel.
under the pager video all the antisemitic rats came out of their holes in the comments. it was beyond baffling.
I just don't understand the obsession with the incident. the two countries came to an agreement and one decided to pay all the demanded compensations to the US.
@@ghosthunter0950average genocide denier.
Never forget that the federal reserve is not even federal. 🎩🎩🎩
@@ghosthunter0950
Lmao, funny how you conveniently sweep a ridiculous and serious attack by an "ally" as bygones because they "paid" after being cought.
Imagine catching your significant other cheating but everything should be okay because they paid compensation. Yeah the trust in that person wont recover nor will that person be a good person worth the effort.
This isn't Goldstrikers channel
You made me a linux user ditched windows in 2020 Used manjaro for 2 years straight, now i'm on mint. It was because of one of your videos and you were saying something about doing hard things.
Te quiero mucho, Kenny 🤗
PD: Join the ACP 🏋🔥✌
I’ve installed arch a few days ago and everything just works? Honestly like it took quite a bit overcoming all the fears of using such a „difficult“ distro but man, I really regret not going with it sooner.
Whatever you wanna do or whatever issue there is there’s a simple answer just one search away.
Setting it up was quite nice too, following the installation guide wasn’t really difficult and getting all of the functionalities and programs I need was absolutely easy.
I disagree... I was a Linux Noob 10 years ago and it was hell learning from the command line and with very little able to be done through the GUI. The GUI to do most things and then learning the command line slowly as I needed things was way better when I tried Linux again 5 years ago and today i'm a power user.
tldr is a great cli tool to quickly see a tool description and its examples
RTFM! Always RTFM! I know someone who actually printed off the Wiki and answers more questions than questions they ask.
Reading boring, bricking peak
remember that according to a 2022 study roughly 20% of americans age 18 or older are straight up illiterate, meaning they CANT read the manual. that same study also claims that roughly 54% of adults read at below a 6th grade reading level.
Your tutorials about Gentoo (installation) are the best!
Guys…I accidentally ran a command line and deleted all my files!!! How do I fix this? I work for the NSA, I deleted all our data, PLEASE HELP BEFORE I AM FIRED.
I learned linux from the command line install of arch and it was difficult but figuring it out taught me linux very well
47 seconds ago is crazy
First
I've always said that using/building Arch was what taught me the most, even when I didn't know anything. Almost thought I was alone in that
I think it would be helpful after this for Mental Outlaw to explain how to get a job using linux in current year. What do you think?
nope. What linux people willl never get in their head is:
You're accustomed to an environment. Environments are the hardest to learn, since you need references for problem solving, but you can only see very little indicators that might lead you on the right path. That's not a linux thing, that's a general thing. You will never ever utilize your actual capabilities in a new environment. LINUX USERS FORGET THAT THEY KNOW THE ENVIRONMENT.
The worst part is that, 99% learned a lot of this environment not in a manual, but by just spending time in that environment and not effectively solving a bunch of problems. Because there is also a major bigger problem:
Linux is in some way consistent, but in some areas not. Which is absolutely terrible for searching for fixes. Forks will ultimately do that.
The amount of times I installed linux and a BASIC FUNCTION WAS BROKEN is absoluetly fuckin insane. If windows had 1% of the failure rate people would actually go insane. (you can shit onn windows all you want, it's not even close in errors upon install)
The most insane thing linux users say is that some distros are basically as easy to use as windows. WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU NEVER SAT DOWN WITH OFFICE WINDWOS USER AND LET THEM USE THE DISTRO THE FIRST TIME WITHOUT HELPING THEM. NO LITTLE HINTS AND EXPLANATIONS.
Do some experiments with windows users, you will get answers you don't like.
Linux has to go a fuckin bunch of milestones until it becomes actually viable for the broader spectrum. The 2020s arent it.
Man I love linux, but the users live in their singlepoint bubble and it's the biggest reason why it is not more user friendly.
Found someone with the brain in the comment section🎉
Yeah, people with years of experience with Windows have issues when the use the first time Linux.
Or have you ever sat down with a person who was using a computer for the first time? I doubt it.
6 months ago, I had only ever used Windows. Now, I've been daily-driving Arch for months. As a big Linux believer, who has only relatively recently seen the light, I must say...
The time investment is far too great for the average person to ever care about. Because you _will_ face a lot of bs, but everything does have a solution. For better or for worse, the average person just doesn't give a fck about their OS, so long as it can access their files, a web browser, and play their Steam games.
really thank for last one. I did hear about tldr and similar things, but not about offline tty wiki. Would save me from need of firing up laptop while arch install to open wiki.
My friends are panicking due to the end of Windows 10. This will be of great use, thank you! They'll learn the penguin or they will fry. Such is life.
Garuda has been the best distro ive ever used. (Gaming focused) Endeavor is basically base arch with a few QoL tweaks. Sped up my HP Envy a mass amount as soon as install completed. I gotta thank microsoft for Co-Pilot and Apple for Intelligence getting people to switch incredibly fast.
Gaming on linux? Lmao is it our time now, arch-bros?
@@AB0BA_69 i'm guessing you haven't heard about what steam has been up to the past few years? leutris as well?
hell, steam has advanced it so damn much that almost any distro could be running games now with proton
That's your problem
I learned Arch when it was still RTFM instillation. Practiced 50x times on a VM, wrote hand-notes on installing audio drivers, picking the right desktop environment, wifi drivers, even dual booting with a bitlocked Windows 8. It still took me a week to install the dual-booted Arch properly because of stupid mistakes like not including my user to the wheel group, accidentally not assigning a password to root, messing up the partitioning by either going a block to far and breaking everything on reboot and more. It was fun, and really helped me towards getting my dream job. Now I use Fedora cause I'm lazy, and dnf/rpmf gives me a similar experience to pacman/aur .
awesome, just sent this to my buddy I got to make the switch :)
Same here I'll jump to mint and then later something more advanced but I am absolutely never going to get a windows 11 ever
I can also vouch for fedora linux, very stable but just a heads up it only comes with open source drivers so if you need any proprietary drivers you’ll have to install them yourself
Commenting from my manually and freshly installed arch install. Took 3 serious tries and some hours but I got it. Feels good, definitely a learning experience. I can now tell everyone I know that I use arch by the way.
0:45 manjaro is ass, the new GUI arch meta is cachyOS
EndeavourOS is what you want if you want mostly plain arch with a GUI installer, CachyOS deviates a bit more, and Manjaro much more so
@olnnn cachyOS deviates for the good tho, endeavoir is basically just preconfigured arch.
cachyOS focusses on speed and security and has a custom kernel and some good software to achive that
@@bacalhau_seco Oh sure, not implying that CachyOS is bad. And tbf unlike manjaro it's still mostly trying to keep in sync and compatible with upstream arch just with optimized builds some extra packages and helper tools rather than this weird holding back packages and curating thing that manjaro is doing.
I've been using Linux off and on for almost 30 years. I only just switched to Linux on the desktop this year. Been using it on servers for a long time.
I've tried Linux desktop every year for 30 years as well. Always switched back to Windows or Mac before because of one issue or another. But this year was truly the year of the Linux desktop for me. I finally am able to do all my work I need to do on it. and yes. I use Arch BTW and I installed it myself not with the installer script (because I'm booting off ZFS and that's not supported by the installer yet).
🐧
Arch Wiki indeed!!! ❤
Knew this'd be good Outlaw. Thumbs up!
As much as I'm loving the Linux experience, people do have to understand it's never gonna be mainstream/for the common normie, in it's current state
Android, ChromeOS, Steam Deck in smaller extent... Raspberry pi and other SBC too...
Normie barely use anything more than Web browser and file manger/explorer to access file on USB storage or something. Rare one use dedicated mail app/program.
Thank, i'm new to linux and the tdlr command will help me a lot.
i use arch btw
And that's btw
Ha! I get it 😂
Lots of helpful info, Thank You.
1:44
About the multiple hour long "programming language" videos:
You have a human going over all the basic features of a language WITH examples and what I get from these types of videos is that you just look at what the dude is writing and listen to what he is saying and then you just open up a text file and write in the same things. Because in my opinion, this is why they exist. You watch an hour a day or something like that and you have all the code written by the dude in your own directory somewhere and since they mostly are structured by topics, like a documentation page for any language, you just name the files "topic1.cpp", "topic2.cpp" or "helloworld.cpp",
"if-else.cpp" and so on.
I doubt ANYONE watches these 10 hour long tutorial sitting still and not trying to rewrite any code from the videos :/
I mean, when you were taught in school about math concepts were you just listening or were you also been writing and reading, and maybe even solving some problems related to the topic?
Gentoo install, wiki and man pages are gold, learn by doing
Just do LFS 🗿
I actually installed my arch without the script as a complete beginner, doing this is not hard it just takes “don’t freak out, it’s going to be alright” and “just keep reading the arch wiki until it works you got this.”
Linux is easy if you don't value your time
he says, sending his message through a globe-spanning network comprised of 90% linux machines.
Linux Mint:
* Install
* Use
All additional tweaks and not really necessary ;-)
Nu-Windows is easy if you don't value your money (buying new expensive hardware) or time (waiting forever for the OS to do something that in earlier versions took seconds)
@@brandemon6667 You don't have to buy anything.
Restrictions are childishly easy to bypass ;-)
Wikiman was the only one I don’t already know about or use - very awesome stuff still
i hate rolling releases.
Kenny, you should make a video on how to make our own decentralized, anonymized and secure networks. When TPTB threaten the existence of sites like Internet Archive, we need to create the next versions in ways that are impossible to take down, and with an easy way to add nodes for storage and contribute to the preservation of the files.
I don't care how bad Windows gets, I'm not switching to troonix
Muh Billion Dollar company
@@lex_4242 let me know how the transition goes bro
Yup. I did it the VM way and then did it the extra hard way when I messed up my installation on my main laptop the first time so I had to redo it while looking up how to fix it on my phone. It was fun. Command line is great when you figure it out. I don’t get why people are so scared to at least try it out. It works just as great as windows for basic things and the jobs I’ve worked on had Linux as “preferred” when working on projects. It’s a great toolset to have compared to just using windows or Mac
People are scared of it because they don’t want to learn it and it seems like a waste of time. For 90% of people it is a waste of time, which is why the average person never uses a CLI.
@ I mean if your job doesn’t require it and you have no reason to learn it whether it’s for a career change or because it’s interesting then yeah you’re right. It’s very niche so there is no reason to jump through hoops.
@@ska187 agreed
what's the best way to learn linux if you're russian and make linus soy rage?
1) do not insult him. 2) you learn literally the same way since contributing to kernel is a different thing
@@deltamico 1) Linus is soy 2) Linus is soy
soy? what are you? gen-z?
@@yeahthatkornel Gen Z? What are you? Soy?
@@yeahthatkornel Found another soy.
I think starting with mint and learning then switching to Debian and learning until you can finally do arch install yourself is the best way to go about it. You form tons of knowledge just using mint and then Debian and you solidify and learn even more once you do the arch setup. Just follow the wiki, it’s genuinely rlly easy
Perhaps an unpopular opinion here, but perhaps an operating system should be intuitive enough that you don't need to learn it to use it.
No one was born knowing how to use any operation system, everyone had to learn one at some point.
@JosephAlnasl Sure, we learned how to use those operating systems, but we were able to learn by using it not by looking up how to.
@@Noneofyourbusiness2000 Having tutorials make it easier. But if you want to learn it by trying it, you're completely free to do it still. Not everyone learned it by using it, that's why there are so many windows tutorials.
@JosephAlnasl I've used it. That's not why I mentioned this. It's more about adoption. I want enough people using Linux that Autodesk supports it. There are those of this that can only use Windows because of industry specific software.
@@Noneofyourbusiness2000 I don't know what that has to do with the topic but, unfortunately, some developers don't want to make their software available for linux. I think it's up to the users of the software to ask the developers.
reading the manual, system logs and tanenbaum books is how i learned.
Manpages? VIM? Htop? The commands "that I want to use"? My man, you're pretty damn far from having a realistic view of where people who consider switiching to Linux and learning it stand. We need to be taken by the hand and be spoon-fed a somewhat linear learning experience. This video turned me off attempting the journey to begin with.
This guy uses gentoo so ofc he's not gonna be able to understand the newbie perspective anymore.
In college, I took a programmers' Unix class. It was pretty decent at teaching terminal commands.
The way I actually used how to daily-drive Linux was installing Mint and...using it! All the university classes in the world can teach you how to use commands, or how permissions work. But until you're using your own system and run into a situation where you need to know how do something in the terminal, it doesn't give you the full breadth of Linux and what it can do. So yeah....the best way to learn is to do.
If you need a manual for your os, it means it is not for the average person.
What, you just came out of the womb knowing how to do things in windows?
@@Anonymous4045 Most people learn basic things for their smartphones without reading. As windows becomes worse for power users it becomes better for them. Recall might scare some people, but many are fine with co pilot.
thank you was waiting for this video no one makes it😅🎉
Thanks MO i am a complete beginner to Linux and i have no idea where to get started
I learned how to use GNU/Linux extensively over the last couple of years out of interest in server hosting. The command line really started to click with me after getting into Proxmox and Ubuntu Server and having a reason to use it. Starting off, I was very strict on learning the command line and refusing any sort of GUI desktop environment to fall back on. I think that alone made the Linux CLI make perfect sense to me. I daily drive macOS now, and even there a lot of my computing tasks are done inside of a terminal. Same with using Homebrew for managing/installing all my apps.
Using surf for offline wiki browsing. Sounds actually good
that's a good advice, I read the man pages to arch linux like 12 years ago, was pretty helpful ngl
All the healthiest commands for n00bs. Very based
You drop this right as I switch to Arch (first linux distro btw). Very based, thank u