copypasta: The best Saying I’ve ever heard about Linux is this: The best thing about Linux is it’ll do exactly what you tell it to do. The Worst thing about Linux is it’ll do EXACTLY what you told it to do.
@@joseramonremes9736 I mean, you can even break Windows if you don't know what you're doing. I work in IT, and a colleague of mine literally broke a production server because he was moving some files in Explorer, and accidentally moved some random folder inside system32 folder somewhere else (it was just an accidental drag-drop)...
Windows: "NOOOOO! You can't uninstall Edge! Your system will break!" Linux: "What? You want me to uninstall the utility that allows your system to boot? Sure, I can do that~"
On fedroa software manger you can look at the reviews of the parantel controll programme. 😂 All them are : this is bloatware why cant i unnistall this? ?!?!?! It is like 1 mgb that doesnt run only when used........
Yeah, most common software you just type in the name and that's it. There's some weird stuff with e.g. Python because you gotta install the python3 and not just the python package, and some niche stuff might just not be on your distro's repositories.
and also update it to the newest version + all other programs on your system. I'm a programmer first and foremost and still have windows dual booted for gaming but will never do any serious work on Windows anymore literally just because of package managers,
@@davidsantana4276 iv'e had issue with the built in software managers/'stores', but that might be partially because i ran it on a intel atom with 2GB RAM. Everything you do in these can be done in terminal though, including searching for new stuff. it's just that its typically easier with a gui, especially the searching part
@@1pcfred Having used Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and a few others, YEP! 🤣 I have my one important server running Debian LTS, I haven't touched it in about 4 years aside from checking for security updates and the RAID array, and I don't intend to because my notes on setting it up are a mess lol.
@@d.bannings Not yet. Windows on my laptop crapped itself so bad that it can't even update anymore, so after the WI-FI vulnerability I can even use it lol, I'm probably just going to switch to Linux on that. I'll take a look when I get around to that, thanks.
8:42 it's not that 'Linux doesn't want that', but rather the anticheats don't want Linux. The system itself could most definitely support an anticheat that runs in the kernel level
The problem is the anti-cheat would have to support some combinations of different libraries (like systemd, pipewire, wayland or even different kernel modules). Also, as @alex38235 said, there is slim chance people will be willing to install big attack vector to their systems, especially as most kernel-level ones doesn't even need to be that low, just wants it to get more data... Why bother, especially if Valve can do everything for them with Proton. Also I would actually prefer better Proton than native Linux version which would be released and immidiately forgotten.
Easy AC works well on Linux, see for example Apex Legends (At least a year ago). It even works with Proton, as I've recently learned. It's just that the game devs don't enable Easy AC for Linux. As for the others: Vanguard, Riot claimed that so few people play on Linux that it's not worth developing it for Linux. EA didn't say anything to my knowledge, but it's EA, what do you expect. Finally, Valve's VAC runs natively on Linux as well.
@@tedzards509 To be fair, VAC is server-sided, not client-sided, so it works on basically every machine. Besides that, yeah, most devs simply do not care enough or fear that it wastes money at best. Anti-cheat systems should honestly just be server-sided these days.
You're wrong. We used to have a linux version of easy anticheat, then epic bought them and like a year after they stopped developing the linux version. Same thing happened with a couple games, rocket league and borderlands had a native linux clients, epic bought them and they stopped developing the native clients.
One big issue with the "you end up in the terminal" is that often GUIs *do* exist, but all the guides and tutorials use the terminal because it's just *so* much easier to say "run these commands: (list of commands)" than "click here (screenshot) then here (screenshot) then here (screenshot)". It'd be better for new users to have the latter, but I don't know how you incentivise people to make those.
Well said It is usually knowledgeable user making guide, and most knowledgeable user bias towards the effectiveness of a terminal On windows, they don't really have a choice lol
Since there are so many DEs there would need to be 5 different versions of the same tutorial to cover it all, whereas with the terminal it is the exact same process regardless of DE or distro(for the most part) One for Gnome, KDE, Cinnamon, elementaryOS, Deepin, xfce, now cosmic and many distros also customize the base DE beyond recognition.
This. You can wonder - why people haven’t made a user comprehensible gui for that - but they probably did, you just need to find out about it. The main bane of Linux is app distribution, in some cases you just can’t realistically produce binaries for every distro.
One challenge that linux faces is this: Software A doesn't launch on Windows: "Wow, this software really sucks!". Sofware A doesn't launch on Linux: "Wow, Linux really sucks"
@@nyalan8385it’s just nerd for: when you don’t make it work on Linux, I do. However, it is very unrealistic and you don’t have to bother with it realistically. When a software is officially supported on Linux, it usually comes with fairly straight forward installation instructions for the most common Linux versions. 99% of the time common stuff will just work. If the software isn’t built for Linux, sometimes there are good alternatives for Linux, if not you’re out of luck unfortunately
Same, I've been using Linux for many years now, and it's unfortunate how many issues there still are, although things have been improving recently, and things like the Steam Deck and SteamOS are only going to speed up progress
And there are work arounds to all his gripes. Most of his issues are due to him running garbage Ubuntu/Gnome/X11 with probably ancient Nvidia drivers lol
Arch linux is truly awefurable for general users. Like trying to install any programs that arent on the steam deck 'app store' requires a masters degree in coding. Outside of that i love not being bombarded with "youu must update now or we will hunt you down" popups every month. Or the massive amount of bloatware on windows, or the fact that microsoft word is no longer FREEEE. SCREW MICROSHLONG
Except you don't really lose any control by using Linux Mint over Arch. Anything [Linux distro for enthusiasts] can do can also be done on [Linux distro for beginners], or really any other distribution, you just need to know how, and the path to doing so is similar enough that you most likely won't feel lost. They all have the same control, other distributions just have some exclusive features only nerds care about (like Gentoo's use flags, or the AUR, or not having to use systemd, or whatever NixOS has)
It's super convenient to let others (big companies, governments, etc.) take all the responsibility off your hands, but that gives them control. If you want control over something, you gotta take responsibility for every little bit of it, and that's *super inconvenient.* Convenience vs control is a debate for the ages. Linux definitely doesn't land on the convenience side. lol
i am always so here for big creators diving into linux in any way shape and form. bc this is how we create change. this is how we get more attention on linux, more users and ultimately and eventually more compatibility. the linux iceberg is huge and what it really needs is experts that are ready to stop gatekeeping and start helping others get to grip with it
And yet nobody is gonna ever use it unless somebody creates GUIs for it. Not everyone wants to die of old age typing away into a fucking command prompt.
@@MonstertruckBadass im super confused. most linux distros now have full GUI-based installations from start to finish, including full access to the OS via a GUI. the rare times you actually have to open a terminal on most consumer distros is to troubleshoot a very specific configuration issue. you can even have several GUIs to choose from if you feel like exercising choice (gnome, kde, xfce to name a few)
The best Saying I’ve ever heard about Linux is this: The best thing about Linux is it’ll do exactly what you tell it to do. The Worst thing about Linux is it’ll do EXACTLY what you told it to do.
@@ThePolishOrange that isn't really destructive on its own...? maybe if you shut your computer down after deleting the bootloader, but I think one can just fix the problem by doing a chroot into the system, then reinstall the bootloader (or swap for another bootloader, lol), and done.
Several points (sorry in advance for the wall of text): * Keep all your personal data on drives that don't have operating system stuff on them. Yes, this is going to require you (or someone you bribe with food) to do some command line wizardry. It's worth it. Why? If something goes wrong with your operating system, you can physically pull your personal data drive out of the machine, reinstall the operating system, put the drive back, do the command line wizardry again, and all your personal stuff is back as if nothing went wrong. After several times, you won't even need someone to do it for you, because you'll know what you're doing. * Consider ditching Ubuntu. The company behind it, Canonical, are up to some shady stuff. They're trying to make themselves a critical lynch pin in the Linux world, which means that they're gearing up to turn evil. Maybe. Point is, considering why you switched to Linux in the first place, you may want to avoid them. I personally have been using Linux Mint Debian Edition, and I've been able to make Steam work just fine. It's also pretty close in interface to Windows 7, so you'll know how to use it from the get-go. (In particular, it's got a lot of GUI utilities built in.) Others enjoy using Pop!_OS for gaming. If you're unsure, ask your Floaties and your Linux pro IRL friends. There are 10k flavors of Linux out there. There's one that will fit you like a glove. * Thanks for sticking it out. As I mentioned in the first point, You're going to get good enough at command line stuff that most of it doesn't confuse you anymore. It's going to happen. How do I know? Because you don't have anywhere else to go, as you've made very clear in this video. Are there GUI tools for things? Yes. Should you rely on them? Absolutely! Will there be things you want to do that don't have a GUI solution? Yep. When that happens, be patient with yourself. Take a deep breath, and remember that with modern machines, very few things you can do can cause problems that can't be solved by reinstalling the operating system. You've got this. As long as you're keeping backups of all your data, like you mentioned, you're going to be just fine. * I personally would really appreciate it if you could give us an update six months or a year down the line. Tell us what you've learned. Tell us what you like. ESPECIALLY tell us what frustrates you, so that we engineering types can better understand the human psychology behind user behavior. We 'experts' can often lose track of the pain points that beginner Linux users face. If something is frustrating you, make a video ranting about it! Even if you have an epiphany in the middle, we can use such a video to learn how to better communicate with users. Remember that every time (and I do mean EVERY TIME) you are frustrated, there is something for us to learn. We open source devs want to learn how to do better. We want you to complain! (That said, some people may try to tell you where you went wrong, and how your frustration is your fault. Try to ignore them. I'm sure you know the type.) All in all, thanks for being willing to take the plunge into unfamiliar territory. As @BringusStudios mentioned, a love-hate relationship is normal. You've got this, loud Australian man!
For point 1, Is there a starting point to learn this wizardry? Or any special search terms? No one I know uses Linux and I just pick at it now and then
Point 1: Actually, don't - just set up a /home mount on another partition or drive, and be done with it immediately. No need for *random* command-line wizardry when you can just make /home belong to another part of the drive and/or another drive entirely* - you just need to make sure said drive always exists on the machine if you do the latter else the OS'll brick. You also get the bonus of the /home being independent of OS reinstalls, as you've somewhat alluded to. * You just need to edit /etc/fstab and get the UUID of your new /home partition with another Terminal command - blkid or something like that? - just be warned that doing this is risky and can cause an OS brick if done incorrectly (also you'd need to make sure to move your home folder to the new partition first to guarantee it remains accessible when you mount the new /home in its place). Ultimately, much easier to just do it BEFORE you install the OS.
For point 1 I do have the easier way, just because my laptop has space for 2 hard drives. The second on has all my stuff (with shortcuts to the desktop for my convenience) while the main one has the OS and programs like Steam. I used partitions in the past, but Windows made it difficult to run both when the free space was becoming smaller with each update. I haven't got any problem since then.
thing is, linux is like driving a manual car. Car enthusiasts love manuals because they give you control. Normal people hate manuals because they make you be in control. Same with Linux. The advantage is you have complete control over the system and are not treated like a child or idiot. The disadvantage is that you have complete control over the system and are not treated like a child or idiot.
Hey Linux beginners, the biggest change in your PC behavior you have to do is to stop Google for software. Every Distribution comes with some kind of Store, like Google Play- or Apple App-store on your phone, which contains nearly every single app you whish for in a nice UI way, no terminal required! (of course there are companies who are avoiding adding their apps to it, but this is not the norm) The ease of installing software is in my opinion the biggest strength of GNU/Linux, it's just seamless. A small side note: desktop recording currently is a hit and miss, since most distributions are currently moving from x11 to Wayland (in short a new and improved way to how everything is displayed on your screen) and while this move is ongoing you can expect some display/recording related issues, but I can confidently say that this should be resolved in the next major updates or years (depending on how much your distribution of choice delays software updates)
I downloaded OBS from its website once, and the recording was bugged. Got it again from the built in application manager, everything works without issue. As someone who has recently made the jump, the application manager is such a strange, but beautiful concept to me. I love it.
honestly, as a linux user for about 1.5 years now, please complain. im serious. when LTT did the linux challenge, a ton of changes came about to improve the daily usability of the OS, and prevent things from going *too* wrong. linux is open source, but the downside of that is the developers are experts, and therefore make the os for experts, and often lose track of what the beginners want. videos like this really help the linux ecosystem become more friendly to beginners and flatted that difficulty wall you face at the start of your journey. best of luck with the switch. it gets easier eventually!
My experience with Linux forums typically goes something like this: - I want to do X, but I don't know how. Can someone help me? - Sure! Here are steps 50-200. That'll do it! -Thanks, but how do I get to step 50? -Listen, if you're going to be a moron, we're not going to help you.
@@sethbramwell you need to gain more experience. Level up! You've got to earn your bones. You're told to RTFM because no one is going to type the manual out for you now. You do have to read it too. You're lucky when you can even find documentation. A lot of folks don't like to write that stuff. If you only knew how hard it used to be to get X to run. Do an image search for xvidtune warning That's not a joke. You literally could blow your monitor up. Ask me how I know. You have no idea how easy you have it today. But there is more lore to know now.
Plenty of users use chrome or chromium-based browsers for a variety of reasons. Not every Linux user necessarily forces themselves to use Firefox and only Firefox
@@pakhyeoncheol firefox isn’t even what it used to be anymore. :( Brave and ungoogled chromium are the new wave at the moment, or forks of firefox like librewolf and mullvad browser. I miss the cute fox…
Having used Linux as a "casual" linux user for the last like 20 years I would say that Linux is great for two types of people, the ones that are very computer savy and are fine with breaking their OS try to "fix" something, and people that just do everything they need on a computer in a web browser.
Two things which are just false: 1. You don't need to know the exact name of the program you want to install from the terminal. If you don't say what version, it will just grab the latest one. Or you can search the repository if you don't know the name either. 2. There are lots of graphical software stores (kinda like on Android). Ubuntu comes with its own store too, it's pinned to the dock on the left hand side, and you can use it to install most programs, from Steam to VLC.
The amount of packages I've tried installing only to realise it's something like program-bin or program-dev is infuriating. I think the point is half valid
@@sw11500when you want to install stuff on windows you don’t go directly to the website, you search it on google. same on linux, if you don’t know the package name, you search, for example you google steam package ubuntu and wow, look at that, you just found the package name
Linux community opinion definitely has a weird paradox of wondering why people are still using Windows and macOS while simultaneously being pretty hostile to beginners. I know it's not necessarily intentional, but as someone who knows Debian-based Linux pretty well, it's a little discouraging seeing others dismiss concerns from people saying they can't switch because of program X or game Y. The answer to getting more people using Linux is to create functional alternatives or get the big programs working (either through emulation or convincing companies to provide official support). When someone says they still use Windows because of Photoshop, telling them to "just use GIMP" or Krita isn't helpful or constructive, and I wish more Linux enthusiasts realized that. It's also just possible for there to not be a solution for everyone, and that's fine too.
A lot of communities have that crab mentality of “we want new people” and “you don't understand this? What a joke!”. Competitive gaming (especially the Smash scene), musicians, even jobs have that same problem. Also photoshop is a buggy mess but some companies insist on keeping it.
Just use arch… JK JK i do however think the linux community is hostile towards bad software not beginners, it just so happens that a lot of bad software is commonly used by everyday users because well… they don’t know nor care that its bad software. You should switch from adobe because they are a predatory deprecated company that is out of ideas other than StOp PiRaTiNg not because it doesn’t run on Linux natively. I think in the end windows will stay the mainstream os (~60% of users) Mac will become the creative os even more so than now, and Linux is gonna be for devs, stem, and maybe gaming if Microsoft messes up badly. But hey that’s just my theory
@@nifftbatuff676linux has some sandboxing and features but it will also do exactly what you tell it to do provided you go through the right channels. Nothing is immune to malware and you can absolutely run stuff like kernel drivers or anticheat on Linux
Clashing of user methodology. people who grew up with the terminal workflow basically experience culture shock from more average users is my assumption
Yeah, I wonder how it will go with installing codecs and graphics drivers on such a distribution. Every guide will point to incorrect paths and commands. Before he learns to find the ones for him, he'll throw his computer out the window.
5:25 is imo one of the best "GUI vs CLI" descriptions for most people. A gui is faster, if you don't know what you need or where you finde it. A CLI is faster of you know exactly what you want and how you want it But that's not specific to Linux ;)
@@p3chv0gel22 50/50 I use paru (Arch Linux User Repo helper) which allows me to index all packages based on name and description, so for example when I run 'paru code editor' it will come up with packages that match that, like VSCode, Zed, Sublim text, etc. But I still use flathub to find cool new apps I had no clue about
For easy things when you don't understand the OS maybe. Personally I find it way better to just check the documentation and then be able to know exactly how to do something as well as invariants of that operation. The point where a GUI needs a guide/training to use effectively is when I deem it strictly inferior to CLI (obviously glossing over editor software where being able to see the thing you're editing is a little bit important). The biggest difference is what I gain out of solving a problem. On Linux I gain more understanding on how a program and operating system function allowing me to be more efficient and flexible in the long run. The biggest problems with GUIs is that due to their nature of abstracting the underlying program makes it much harder to resolve issues with the program and figure out whether the software is flawed or whether I'm just having a skill issue. It's unfortunately not for everyone but it's something I believe everyone who uses computers for any significant amount of time should learn to use.
Honestly, thanks for the encouragement; this was just the little push I needed to take the plunge starting with an old, ancient laptop. Hope you, and everyone else who tries can stick with it!
For anticheats, 90% of games technically work! Easy Anticheat as well as BattleEye have native Linux versions as well as full official support to work through Proton. The issue - developers need to manually enable it on a per game basis. It's not a difficult process, usually just switching a switch, but developers just choose not to do it.
Though to be frank, how effective is the Linux version of those anti-cheat solutions considering that afaik they run in user space instead of kernel space? It could be argued that they don't enable Linux support to avoid creating a potential gap in their anticheat
yea i dont understand his explanation of "linux doesn't want any of that," it's not that Linux refuses to run drivers (on the contrary, it doesn't require signed drivers at all unlike windows, and mac I don't even know if you can write drivers for it) the problem is game developers refuse to enable Linux support. tim sweeny is famously a linux hater
@@dan3817 Pretty useless. It's basically the same as VAC. This is exactly why competitive games never support Linux. Ironically too much freedom allows easy cheats
@@dan3817 they work well enough. the truth is that if someone's making cheats for linux to go around the anticheat they can probably get around it in countless different ways. commercial ACs like EAC or BattleEye work okay at stopping whatever free garbage virus you can find, but most of the work of combatting cheaters is still on the shoulders of the game devs
Linux as a complete Windows replacement is very hard to adapt to because feature wise it is 98% there, but the last 2% also happen to be the things I use the most frequently on Windows
@@lukeskywalker2That might've been true 10 years ago, but not so much nowadays. Blender works natively for 3d. For CAD, spinning up Fusion 360 takes a bit of working around, but it's easily possible, and you can also use Onshape since that's browser based. DaVinci Resolve is pretty good for video editing. Really the big missing one is Photoshop, but there are so many alternatives getting better with each day that unless you need everything it has to offer there is bound to be one that covers your specific needs.
@@lukeskywalker2Minus the CC features, I've heard Adobe's suite works quite well on Linux... if you pirate it. I think you have to do the initial install on Windows, though, and then copy the files over
every game in my library, drivers for my DAC, audio software.. and the fact linux doesnt work unless you suck it off.. yeah. had to touch debian, kali, ubuntu- they are all just varying levels of "fuck you, because."
For the people who want to switch to Linux: take it easy. First: watch tutorials (it is important that they are recent ones). Start by learning what Linux is, the differences with Windows, and some of the basics. You can still use windows alongside with dual booting; you can install Linux on another disc/partition, or another PC/Laptop you have around. It is important to have a reason to use it, so try to install a software you need, that way little by little you start to learn. And yes, you will need to learn some stuff, because it is different, and remember you are switching cause it is different. Look for Linux communities, forums, discord, etc. Ask there for the info you need, and be patient, they are just people like you. I recommend to start with Linux Mint. Edit: Lots of people said that lately Windows Updates are breaking dual boots when installed on the same disc, so if you are new, avoid that option. If you want to dual boot, install Linux on a different drive if you can.
Mint and Ubuntu are both great starters, as someone who tried both! Ubuntu seems to be heading in a weird subscription model direction tho, so newcomers beware Ubuntu. Also snaps smell and should go away
This is nonsense. It doesn't matter how recent the tutorials are, even if they are for the specific version you are using, it doesn't work. Linux needs to pull it's head out of it's ass and respect the GUI, no one gives a shit about the terminal.
Just take note that, by default, deleting files via terminal is non-recoverable (i.e., there's no such thing as a recycle bin). Yes, there are possible workarounds, but they're not beginner-friendly.
You're the exact kind of user we need, just keep on yellin' and we'll get to fixin'! This info is invaluable so by all means keep documenting your adventure as much as possible!
Why does hating corporations have anything to do with which OS to use? Do you take the same approach with cars, vacuum cleaners, shoes, phones etc, and always look for free stuff? There is nothing wrong with corporations making a profit. In fact, it's their responsibility to shareholders to do so.
@@toby9999 I couldn't care less about the shareholders. I'm a consumer, so I'll worry about what matters to me as a consumer. And I can say, as a consumer, that it's not looking great and it's looking so not great that I'd rather pick the free OS. I mean, why wouldn't I? It's a free OS that works just fine
In Wales in the UK we have a mountain called Snowden that is popular with people to climb. If you want to can just hop on a train and it will take you all the way to the top and back. You can bask in the views having not lifted a finger. Yet many people still enjoy climbing the mountain (I'm one of those people). If you're the guy who takes the train up the mountain, stick with Windows or Apple and save yourself the pain.
A shitty, non user friendly OS is not equivalent to climbing a mountain. It’s equivalent to jumping off a cliff with schrodingers parachute instead of just walking down.
Hey Dank! As an IT administrator for a US Govt agency, I'm also very fed up with the direction Windows has been going lately, my home computer has also been on Linux for a couple years. My recommendation for my favorite Linux distro is Mint. It's going to feel somewhat familiar to you, since it's based on Ubuntu, but it has a few nice features that keep you out of the terminal if you don't want to be there. The software manager behaves kind of like an app store, and the update manager is the same one Ubuntu uses.
@@destrierofdark_ I tried to like Debian but having to remove the bootable media from the list of apt sources before I could install updates was the first of many frustrations. I have to fix computer issues all day at work, I just want my home PC to require as little tinkering as possible.
Agreed. Even as an experienced user, Linux Mint is just so nice. I haven't technically needed to use the terminal even once. I say technically because I have used the terminal many times, but the GUI option was always there and easily accessible.
@@ch3fxexcell3nce kubuntu is what I chose and what serves me pretty much perfect. I know about the cdrom debian-ism, but keep in mind that distro is from the early 90s, and rarely sheds the old cruft. only recently did they allow non-free software on their install media, mind.
The problem with user friendliness in starting with Linux is that the "best" distro/setup for new users changes all the time. Ubuntu used to be the best option like 5-10 years ago, but now there's stuff like Linux Mint that are a lot better for beginners (IMO). In particular, GNOME has been making a lot of poor decisions that hurt usability, which is why I personally point new users towards KDE or Cinnamon distros instead (which are a lot more Windows-like). But people only know Ubuntu, so that's the one they choose, and they end up with the bad choices, like (debatably) snaps and GNOME. And elitists can never agree about anything, so new users get overwhelmed with the alternatives and just choose to stick with what they know instead.
gnomes decisions seem to be targeted more at touchscreens at this point which is fine imo, it was a bit of whiplash using it coming from Plasma but honestly if i were building a tablet linux system i'd probably just go straight to gnome.
You nailed it. I still run Ubuntu because I'm an idiot who actually likes GNOME but the rest of the kit in the house runs either Zorin or Mint. The Linux elitists can stay in mum's basement for all I care, for the rest of humanity Linux Mint is a perfect distro for new users.
two kinds of people: "ugh I wish I could leave windows/mac city but there's nothing to do out in the woods :(" "aah...love the fresh air out here in the GNU/woods :)"
Nowadays, most distros have some guardrails to prevent people from completely breaking their system. Many distros won't let you run "sudo rm -rf /" and, when you're potentially breaking system packages, APT doesn't just ask you for "y/n" but forces you to write an entire sentence to make sure you know what you're doing is potentially dangerous (although, just like Linus, it will allow you to break things once you do that). If, on Linux, the system says you shouldn't be doing something or make sure you know what you're doing, it's a good time to reevaluate and look/ask around for answers.
8:38 Its not "kind of like malware," it just is. It uses the same tactics as a rootkit does. Crowdstrike did the same thing and it killed a ton of computers.
From someone who does not own a computer that does not run linux. Keep at it. The point and click gets better every day, and its already WAY easier than it was a few years ago. The attitude you have, of keeping at it despite the challenge, is what makes open source stuff stronger, and keeps microsoft and apple in check.
I cut my teeth on Ubuntu 6.06, and I’ve been in and out of Linux Land (all the ice cream stands are penguin shaped, obviously), and it has gotten REMARKABLY more approachable since then!
i agree but i defo dont think the big guys are kept in check tho.. Not when spying on your data and having no full admin access built in and handing over biometrics/accepting terms or needing 500 partners tracking cookies to visit a single page is all considered normal by wayy too many people nowdays imo and i hear Ai supervisors are a new thing out now too? and its basically a keylogger so that tops it all off rly lol! Also anyone old enough remembers that using real credentials was a huge nono on the web always a ridiculous idea not to be done! Well up until recently coz its now mandatory for so many things! its totally insane but the youth dont know because they never witnessed the old web and good parents are seemingly nonexistent so have clearly failed to pass that knowledge down.. I guess it was noticed how the smartest took advantage of early computers to educate ourselves and practise problem solving/fiddling to become even smarter and that had to be stopped.. Also the early web was populated by some of the smartest people now its 99% of every idiot and their child with the smart people as a tiny minority.. the old web is mostly gone now already and since search engines were hijacked its near impossible to find something you don't already know about, like youtube now even has no home page whatsoever if you have no history saved just to make sure it never shows you something new you arent already aware of, ensuring you stay in an echo chamber never really learning anything your not supposed to.. seems like theres a mass dumbing down, nowdays the youth dont protect their freedom or privacy at all! and are super compliant they just do what their told no question and follow signs and where they are allowed its scary to see playing out.. I think its because the worlds been so overbearing and health and safety mad since they were born, using fear to enforce control and theres constant propaganda reinforcing it all over films tv and the web.. Sadly from what iv seen they rarely know how to produce an original idea or act impulsively or independent(only doing things they have been told they can, never anything off their own back iv genuinely witnessed this so many times its scary) and they are extra vulnerable to propaganda due to their 5g umbilacle cord (mum in pocket always which again stops them fully reaching independence) Plus because they often have no social life offline and therefore nobody to chat with or interrupt them and point out the lies or give support n tell them that things can be changed.. i dont know if our own gov is responsible or foreign powers or maybe we just werent ready for the web to be accessed by everyone and its all a big coincidence (doubtful) but the negative effects seem undeniable at this point as far as im concerned.. Every generation had its own feel and its art and music style up until now where its switched to individuals streaming alone and theres no tv shows we all see together anymore or songs on radio we all hear together like there used to be and its a pretty awful sign in my opinion.. Divide and conquer in action
As a proof has far Linux has come: I’m a beginner Linux user and have had no issues with and Arch distro called EndeavourOS. Desktop environments makes using Linux so easy! (Although I’m finding starting to use the terminal more and more everyday). If you just need a working computer to do multimedia and work, Linux does the same thing Windows and Apple can 98% of the time, and it only gets better. Also, I’m learning more IT stuff by booting Linux on an 15+ years old laptop and using it as a server for file sharing, network wide ad blocking. My goal is to completely self-host and move away from Google and Microsoft cloud services. Thanks to Linux being open source and community driven, there are tons of guides, and troubleshooting forums online.
Thanks for sharing this! My first linux was puppy linux i was so confused and tried to switch to ubuntu. The old unity desktop era was so cool, and since then i distrohopped and ends with Arch based distro. the steep learning curve is insane and everyday i keep learning new stuff..
Man i've used endeavorOS. Arch is just so easy to break, after my first kernel update the package manager imploded and i couldn't install, uninstall or update anything until i reinstalled the entire thing. I'll just stay on debian.
@@leo34150 I'd say that from my experience any distro is easy to break. I've tinkered with Debian, Ubuntu, PopOS, Mint, and manged to break them just as well. As you understand how each distro work, you know what not to do. On top of it, I have BTRFS, automatic snapshots, backups, various terminal abd shell tools, and I really have to go out of my way to break anything. I'm in my first year of using EOS, and the only had to rollback to a previous snapshot, just because it was easier than uninstalling a bunch of packages I didn't want. And honestly, ever since I learnt how to use yay I stopped using any other package managers, unless I have to.
Just in case you didn't know, the desktop mode of Steam OS is actually based on something called KDE plasma , So if you like how that looks but also like the simplicity of ubuntu theres a fork called Kubuntu which is literally just ubuntu, with some of the junk removed and with KDE! Edited to be slightly more acurate
@@waltercomunello121 kde being heavy doesn’t matter in this circumstance since he has powerful pc’s and also praised ubuntu for immediately allowing him to do basic tasks without playing around in term, and i didn’t claim kde was an os, but kubuntu is probably the best fit for him since he’s already used to all the basics of ubuntu, while also previously liking the kde desktop environment on the deck, so moving over to this would be very easy and add more consistency to all his different machines. He could alternatively use kde neon which is also based on ubuntu, however it is less stable which is the main thing he wanted in the video. Also installing kde on normal ubuntu will just lead to more issues as opposed to the fork thats built for it which. of course wade has his own rights to choose to whatever he wants to use, this is just a recommendation
Plasma is the name of SteamOS' desktop environment. KDE (the desktop bit) "turned" into Plasma some time around 2014. KUbuntu works well for a lot of folks, but Fedora's KDE Spin works better in my opinion. Ubuntu's a bit slow to update *real* features for my taste, and pushes its own stuff (Snap packages) on top of more typical things. Fedora just ships what it seems like it should, and has similar quality of life features.
@@cromfrein5834 oh yeah i mixed up KDE in general and plasma, although i still think switching the entire base of your OS is not as good as an idea opposed to simply switching pretty much DE alone, especially for someone who's not that good with linux like him.
It's also possible to install Plasma on an existing Ubuntu install, but you might have some odd behavior initially because some things might partially carry over and conflict
i was just thinking “dank has been mentioning linux a lot, i wonder when that video is coming”. as a diehard linux user, thanks for raising awareness to open source stuff!
The three major OS groups when asked to do something that might break the system: Windows is a security guard at the gate: "Yeah, you cleared your ID with me an hour ago, go ahead if you know what you're doing, but you probably shouldn't." Mac is a mob boss: _Deep drag on a cigar_ "No." Linux is an innocent kid high on mountain dew willing to do whatever you say without a second thought: "I don't know, let's find out!" _wipes hard drive with an 8 letter command_
I know this was a joke, but nowadays Linux will warn you if you try the classic mass delete commands and asks if you really want to wipe all your stuff.
I recently made the jump to linux after failing to restore and use a windows machine i got, and it was honestly a little pathetic how impressed i was at the bare minimum of just having complete and total control over an operating system again. No aggravating updates, no wasted time finding drivers, Linux isnt perfect for what i want out of a computer, but it does a damn good job at being a productive system.
"No wasted time looking for drives" man i feel like you're not telling the truth right now because oh boy did i had problems with drives when i first tried linux, spent almost 2 days trying to get everything running
No wasted time finding drivers ? What kind of windows did you use that you had so many problems Better question what kind of Linux did you find that it was so problem free
@@Gaaaaaaabrrrrrrriel I installed linux mint actually, it's a very beginner friendly way of getting started with linux. The PC I installed it on isn't very powerful so that may have been why it was easier for me, but Mint was able to quickly identify all the drivers for me
@@Gaaaaaaabrrrrrrriel Depends on the hardware. If it has in-tree drivers, it'll work straight away with no hassle. Already in the kernel, nothing you need to do. But if the drivers are out of tree, you have to hunt them down separately and hope they will work with whatever kernel version you're currently running. For most mainstream hardware, you'll be in group 1, it just works plug and play. But if you aren't, then well... good luck
I love Linux, I really do, but every time i go to daily drive, it manages to bork itself so bad that no fix works and on forums people say that the fix is "reinetall" or "use a live cd"
@bland9876 that is actually no longer true, as Torvalds publicly stated in a recent interview about AI, and I quote: "So, when AI people came in, that was wonderful because it meant somebody at NVIDIA had become much more involved on the kernel side, and NVIDIA went from being on my list of companies that are not good to my list of people who are doing really good work. But that doesn't mean that I, personally, end up being interested in AI. I am just interested in what we need to do in the kernel to support AI. I still see myself as a core kernel person. But I think it's a good thing that people specialize." -KubeCon China, specifically taken from the diginomica article.
I've been using linux for 20 years, and your description of the learning cliff, the terminal, and permissions is spot on. I remember when I started, feeling blind in the terminal, pressing all those cd, ls, pwd commands. Now it feels intuitive, but it was a hell of a ride here.
Regarding Anti Cheat and Linux: Interestingly, the game dead by daylight (briefly shown at 8:49) does use Easy Anti Cheat and works on Linux. It's just that the developers of EAC games have to explicitly enable linux support, which they often do not do.
Insurgency sandstorm is another with EAC that has been working for a while. AFAIK it's just a simple enable option the devs need to toggle on for EAC to work on linux.
Pro tip: Ventoy is incredible and should live on your USB candy instead of messing with Etcher and whatnot. It's literally the drag and drop "install linux" thing you want and you can still use it as a thumb drive.
Thank You so much for this suggestion! After trying Ubuntu more than 10 years ago (and having massive driver issues), I resolved to actually switch to Linux as soon as Windows 10 Support ends. For this reason I wanted to try different Distros easily and Ventoy is the perfect way to do it (which I hadn't heard off before), as it even allows you to have multiple ISOs on one drive and offering a boot menu for them. Truly amazing!
I admire your attitude in the face of learning something that seems horrifically obtuse at first. All the random bits will start to make sense soon. So happy to see someone on here give Linux a shot, run into problems, and double down. It's hard to go back once you've peeked behind the curtain a bit and realize just how icky having no control is.
Congrats on the shift, mate. The complaints you have are 100% valid, I share some of them myself as someone who shifted over to solely Linux a few years ago. I salute the dedication.
after switching to linux myself some time ago and loving it i'm so happy to see others doing the same and spreading the word. it's not about linux just being 'better' but having control over your system and OWNING it.
Linux for me is literally "it's fine" among literally products with stuff *designed* to annoy me. Linux is a 5/10 Problem is, Mac is a 2/10 and Windows is 1/10
I jumped from Windows 7 to Linux... there was no technical reason for Windows to stop supporting 7... the big change happened with Vista when they jumped from a 32-bit OS to a 64-bit OS... after that point WIndows 7 and Windows 11 are both basically just Vista with a paint job.
@@JohnnyThund3ryou can always switch off auto updates in windows to avoid the sudden updates m8, also mac os or Linux cant be compared with windows, of you hate the ADs and bloatware you can get the windows lite version that has all the important things except adware and additional softwares, and of you want it even more lightweight you can use windows DeBloat tools that literally removes all softwares and processes that you dont require, Windows is still the Kind 👑...
@@villemononen5303you can always switch off auto updates in windows to avoid the sudden updates m8, also mac os or Linux cant be compared with windows, of you hate the ADs and bloatware you can get the windows lite version that has all the important things except adware and additional softwares, and of you want it even more lightweight you can use windows DeBloat tools that literally removes all softwares and processes that you dont require, Windows is still the Kind 👑...
4:17 can confirm, I've used Llinux for fifteen years and the terminal is my best friend. It may be really hard to learn at first but once you do have it figured out Linux becomes so much easier than Windows because you can just tell the computer to do exactly what you want it to do, and it does it. It's magic.
As a linux user its really hard to agree with you. Its just annoying that you have to get used to terminal. No other operating system requires that of you. When you install linux, you have to fix whats broken. Just annoying. Although its a free open source service so its to be expected. But that doesn't make it any easier
I can relate though. I've been using Linux on and off for years (mainly for programming) and while I do like the terminal, I gave up on using systems like Arch or Gentoo or whatever and just stick to Mint. I just like a system that's set up out of the box and works well.
@jordanliszewski6549 I get you sort of, but for a lot of users, once they get it, they don't wanna not get it. It's too powerful No other operating system expects that of you, but also no other operating system respects your privacy and gives you control But, honestly, I'm a IT professional and I don't even use the terminal all that often. I think the need is exaggerated
3:53 Linux fans, I've noticed, REALLY love to talk about how low and flat the start of that learning curve is nowadays to try and sell you on it. They don't tend to like it as much when you bring up the cliff that comes afterwards. I say this as someone who used Linux for years and will probably go back once MS forces me off of Windows 10. I find that the cliff is worth climbing, but trying to downplay its existence is doing a disservice to potential users.
The cliff is there only because other Linux users make it. Whenever you have a problem, there just isn't a simple fix like there is on Windows. Once you know how to solve a problem, you can do it again in 5 minutes, but learning how to solve it can take hours because nothing is explained well online. e.g. You run into a solution that's just like "edit the kernel command line in grub" and 90% of people who see those instructions will just run back to Windows.
IMO, unless you try doing something Linux is not designed to do, you won't even reach the point where you need to climb that cliff, the catch is the "designed" part, since lots of software is not made to support Linux natively, at least for now.
@@hikkamorii Linux isn't "designed" to do anything besides serve as an open foundation for other software. There is no centralized authority designing the whole experience like there is in Microsoft or especially Apple land. That's what makes it great for power users but also what makes it terrible for casuals.
Most people who I installed Linux for never got near the cliff. They just use browsers and click buttons in GNOME Software or KDE Discover to update their system. Sometimes they install an app from said software center and use that, like Discord, Zoom or Spotify. Linux is really fine for most people that use their computer like a casual laptop user uses their computer.
@@pocketpc_ See, you say there's no centralized authority, but for the vast majority of users, what freedesktop wants, freedesktop gets. systemd, avahi, pulseaudio... GNOME is far and away the biggest DE for Unix-likes, or at least it was until SteamOS went with KDE because they were willing to actually fix the stuff that Valve brought up as issues with it. If you want to use any modern GUI toolkit these days on a non-systemd system, you pretty much have to install policykit and elogind -- a splinter from systemd -- or things just do not work. Some stuff will still let you build with the old consolekit2 libraries in mind, but I imagine the majority now will not. I'm not saying this as a systemd hater or anything. I use it, I vastly prefer the syntax of unit files to OpenRC services and such, but to say that there's no centralized authority for (at least desktop -- server, embedded is another story) Linux is, if not factually incorrect, then at least incorrect in practice. You can do things differently, sure, if you want to make things vastly more difficult for yourself.
Long time linux user here (daily drive gentoo on desktop and alpine on server). I agree basically wholeheartedly with what youre saying, and dont worry, it gets a lot more convenient once you really know your way around the system. It gets to the point where you get a lot faster using the terminal than a GUI. And on the note of it being possible to break a linux system pretty easily, one of my favorite quotes is "UNIX was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things, as that would also stop them from doing clever things."
@@waywardscythe3358I have tried most, if not all mainstream distros and the easiest distro was unironically gentoo, it just never runs into problems. Basically once You are done tailoring the system to your needs, you dont need to do anything. And it even has a binary repo if that's what you want. I dont even use terminal anymore (well, only for updating once a month or so) 😊
Theres the linux distros, and then theres the desktop environments. Basically the gui. If you want something similar to steamos desktop, it uses KDE Plasma.
Very well thought out and stated critique. Control vs. convenience is perfect sentiment. It really isn't worth learning for casual computer users who already know Windows/OS X. The most I think average casual users should consider learning is just how to make and use a LiveUSB for a backup way to boot up a PC with a broken Windows install to salvage data, do important crap online, etc. I say all this as someone who's daily driven Arch Linux for almost 20 years. I love it but it should be clear why the average person doesn't. It's not hard so much as it is *tedious.* lol
Okay so like I’m not the most confident around Linux but I can tell Dankpods is less knowledgeable than me in some regards. So, Dankpods, mate, 9:12 here is your solution to this issue; look for an immutable OS. They get a bad rap in the Linux community but that’s literally only because Linux users are tinkerers. Immutable OSs stop you from messing with your system files, making them a lot harder to break, more reliable and stable. They let you do system wide patches rather than one driver update every day, a bit like what windows does except they don’t shove it down your throat.
The problem is that unless you're just using a browser, sooner or later you'll want or need to "tinker". Not every program is in the flatpak repo, or even in the distribution repo. Proton apps are a good example. I've always been curious about this type of distro, but it's too weird and doesn't protect your computer any better than btrfs snapshot (if you take care of the configuration). Or maybe even worse, because from what I understand, the etc directory is not protected by the system image. So why?
NixOS is immutable *and* tinkerable... it's just not noob-friendly, like, *at all*. But VanillaOS is perfectly functional ootb even with Nvidia GPUs in 2024, and there's also Fedora Silverblue/Kinoite as solid projects that have been going on for many years without issue.
@@hikkamorii It is! Unlike most immutable distros tho, it's less like a single OS install (as with OSTree or Nix) and more like you installed Linux twice, an A-B partition scheme using RAUC ‒ it's the same thing that Android does!
@@xerzy Double that; NixOS is actually _the_ tinkerer's distro. You can do whatever you can with any other distro, except when (not if) you break stuff you can revert almost everything with a reboot (except your data, if you manage to wipe that). As an added bonus, it's trivial to manage dozens of devices with some commonalities by just reusing the common configuration and specifying only the differences. (oh and all the advantages of Nix for developers and sysadmins too, but that's not relevant for most people) But yeah it's going to be hard, especially if you've never used Linux or if you've used it a lot and have certain expectations that don't hold true with a fully declarative system. For me the learning curve of NixOS after traditional Linux was probably as much as getting into Linux in the first place, and with similar gains.
Happy to hear you're making the hop to Linux! But let's not forget that Ubuntu did sell their souls to Amazon and packaged their OS with ads that one time... they're not immune!
@@judo_ashtray Linux Mint is what runs my image hosting server cuz I don't trust big tech companies with my pictures and videos. Those stay in my house
Alot of the difficulty with Linux comes from basic computing concepts alot of people just don't have anymore. We stopped teaching it in schools, and now people don't know what a file system or directory is, or what permissions are. Alot of these core concepts are important to being able to use Linux, alongside other core concepts not needed by the general public like drivers and kernels. Once you have these concepts, the practical skills, like command line usage, become easier.
I have had many people reach out to me saying they want to try a Linux OS that "just works" I set their expectation that "you have been using the same tool since you were a child, its going to take time to learn something new and you will make a few mistakes along the way." If that doesnt deter them, they will likely get a net positive experience after the first few months.
Used Linux for over 6 years and made the switch back to Windows about 3 years ago. I didn't realize how miserable Linux was making me until I finally left it.
@@toastpoint I've had the reverse experience, I used linux for about 3 years, and every time I have to boot into windows for something I'm reminded of why I switched
@@toastpointWindows genuinely made me more miserable since Microsoft pushed out multiple updates years ago that would end up borking entire setups, and the older devices I used back then were choking with anything after Windows 7, but running an outdated system is risky as well. Linux is more stable and flexible, and I only had issues because of hardware tinkering on my end. Windows is good for the familiarity of things and that everything "just works" (including bad things, too), but Linux is best for those that *can* make use of it. I just wish Linux was more accessible.
Fun fact regarding Anti-Cheat: most anti-cheat actually works in WINE/Proton, but the devs have to allow it to run in WINE. They just don't want to because almost nobody hinges their buying decisions on whether it runs on Linux 😓
Which the market share of the OS (but mainly how many users are on the OS) shows exactly why devs and companies doesn't bothered to support them because no one wanted to support what they think is the minority of the OS users.
@@killertruth186They don't need to "support" them. Proton can already translate and run it just fine. All it takes to make games with anticheats like EAC work on linux is a SINGLE checkmark setting from their end which some developers infuriatingly refuse to do.
@@gplastic EAC-eos has proton support but that does not mean people should use it. there is a huge diff between a kernel mode ac and having mostly trivial checks in the proton sandbox. If something like rust was to enable it the amount of botting would be insane. just look at apex lmao
People keep blaming devs for not enabling Linux support, but let me tell you, as a former dev, it's NOT the devs fault - devs don't even own the code, nor do they control the direction - it's all in the hands of the publisher / game studio. As a dev, you can't just go and tick a box and bam, suddenly enable support for an ENTIRE NEW PLATFORM - that sort of stunt would get you fired. Decisions like that need to go thru a process where it'll need to be reviewed and approved first (often there's multiple levels of approvals) - and the higher ups or "the suits" as we call them, would never approve something like this. So this is a decision that needs to come from the studios themselves, it's out of the hands of developers who actually code the game. So please stop blaming devs for this, when it's really the fault of the studios (unless you're taking about indie games of course, where a dev is in full control - but of course, indie games would never use shitty anticheats in the first place).
3:00 You can actually just drag and drop, kind of. Modern UEFI BIOSs don't really require any special partitions or anything to boot from a drive, it'll automatically detect bootable OS files. So what you do is you open up the ISO on your computer, then just drag and drop the files from the ISO to the flash drive. Also I'd like to note that Linux Mint or Pop!_OS probably would've been a better choice for you. The creators of Ubuntu, Canonical, have a kind of sketchy past that has put off most of the Linux community. Linux Mint is basically Ubuntu, but without Canonical. Ubuntu definitely isn't a bad choice by any means, but something like Linux Mint would probably be just a little better. Edit: Also you can have something similar to what SteamOS does where it makes the file system Read Only. They're called Immutable distros, two solid examples are Fedora Silverblue and Vanilla OS. They basically prevent apps as well as you from touching system files so that way nothing gets messed up. Apps are packaged in what's called a "Container" where the apps are all walled off from each other and the system. This is also called Sandboxing. Containers and Sandboxing is more or less the future of Linux, mainly spearheaded by stuff like Flatpak.
Was going to say, an immutable distro seems like a good option for people who aren't as used to Linux. They can be a bit frustrating if you want to break out of that pattern, though. Ubuntu isn't necessarily a bad option though, lots of guides and readmes are still written with it in mind. Distro-hopping can be fun though.
i officially endorse this, and agree with the fact that dealing with it can be a nightmare i’ve been courting linux for 7 years, and have switched to using it full time for my music and dev work. ironically, DJing is the only reason i end up on windows, and it feels like handling manure every time
Welcome to the family :) It takes a little while to become "fluent" in Linux, much like with Windows or MacOS when you were a kid, but when you get there you never want to go back!
Windows and Linux will both waste equal amounts of your time; for Linux it's going through forums and wikis not getting an answer to your question, and for Windows it's dodging ads and waiting for the desktop to load.
You seems to write from Windows XP using ISP router that doesn't allow changing DNS. From personal experiance : Windows loves me and Linux hates me. I spend 3 days last christmas configuring PC for my mum to realize that wifi drivers are not existing (literally 404 in only repo any forum was poiting at) and on basic one i get 1/8 of bandwidth available, but it turned out to be not an issue when i discovered that browsers can do at best 480p at streaming services, despite i have DRM and all of that installed. For compression windows installation and all software takes 3h at best and then i can forgot about it for next 10 years (or whenever win 10 was released.)
It's sad because there are probably quite a few people actually upset because somebody (who makes no claim to be an authority) didn't know about some obscure tool. Jimmies were rustled. I hope they recover.
@@ultimateidiot2344 A thing you can put on a USB/DVD to easily manage installers or recovery environments. After installing it, you put 1 or more ISO images of operating systems onto the new empty drive that shows up. When you boot into the USB/DVD, it shows a menu with the ISO(s) you loaded onto it. You can select one, and it will boot into it as if you manually copied over the ISO! Didn't mean to write a paragraph, but hope this helps one day!
2:54 by the way you can setup Ventoy once on your USB drive and drag and drop multiple iso's to the drive and just use it without having to burn the iso each time :)
I tried to use Ventoy soms time ago but it kept corrupting the iso, don't remember if it was Fedora or Nobara, but I redownloaded the iso 3 or 4 times, redownloaded, installed and wiped Ventoy a few times but it didn't work, then went back to Balena Etcher and was able to install the distro
@@yorimituTry giving it another crack mightve had a bad patch version. I've had a lot of luck with it. You may also need to check if it's the MBR or UEFI version but this was awhile ago you may not have to bother with the UEFI issues
idk, I tried ventoy exactly two times: with EndeavourOS and NixOS. I had 0% success rate with ventoy - it just didn't work for my distoros (apparently it was/is a known issue). Dunno why people keep recommending a tool that just doesn't work with some fairly popular distoros sometimes - for me it only ever lead to frustration.
I have been meaning to check out the channel since the LTT collaboration and for whatever reason the youtube algorithm finally did something useful. Just spent 3 days diving into the archives and I think I am a convert. Fantastic chaotic energy.
This was exactly my experience with Arch. Installing it was great, and getting everything set up with a DE and whatnot was fun, and then suddenly I was abandoned by the Arch Wiki as I wanted to do things that were outside of its scope. Instant misery from then on.
9:38 mate don't use those adata drives please they have ridiculously high rate of failure you will either need to run in like raid 2 atleast and constantly have atleast one extra ready to go if you don't run in raid you will lose your data and have to pay for data recovery which is expensive
the problem with nvidia drivers is mostly because nvidia wasn't open-sourcing them. from what ive heard they've finally caved and said they're going to/have already so in the future there should be less issues like that
I've been using Linux for nearly 5 years now. I've distrohopped everything except Gentoo. And it has been both incredibly joyful AND frustrating at the same time. I will say I started with Linux Mint, I came back to it, and I'm never leaving again. It's my digital home. It's a zero-drama best friend you can always count on.
LoL, I'm the opposite, I've only been in Gentoo. Less than a year so far. That being said, it's normal for people to skip Gentoo, and I can't just randomly recommend it to people. It's for those who are or want to be more involved with the OS, how it functions and how it can be tuned and customized. Many people just want things to work and for that Gentoo is overkill.
Mint is awesome. It's my default recommendation. Personally I like rolling release and the AUR so I landed on Manjaro, but Cinnamon is my go-to desktop. Super stable, looks great, and in general it just gets out of the way and lets you get stuff done.
@@masternerd64 I did, but I knew what I was getting into. This is my first (and only) bare metal install, but I did encounter Linux at work, I did use WSL in Windows, I did installed Arch in Virtualbox several years ago and Gentoo last year. And I knew about Gentoo for more than 2 years and it was love at first sight. I just took my time until I did it, which did help in being prepared for it. Frankly, I think it was a big of luck too, for example I installed it at about the same time when pipewire got ready. So I kinda didn't had to learn about pulseaudio and alsa and jack... well, I still learned a bit, but I think that initially I was lucky to not have to. I think it helps a bit that I'm also simply using dwm, instead of Gnome or KDE. The hardest thing at the install was making the wifi work and then making the VPN work, while trying to be minimalistic in the applications installed (for VPN I had to give up and install NetworkManager, I wasn't able to configure it on my own)
As a Windows fanboy who tried Linux @4:50 You open whatever app store you have and you literally search VLC, no need for terminal. Edit: i was describing how to download VLC in Ubuntu without terminal.
@@TheLazyGamerAU if you watch any of the Linux content creators reacting to ‘I switched to Linux’ videos, they literally cringe at anyone who searches Google for an app to install. Like you say, search your distro’s package manager for programs as they have been compiled and tested for your distribution, by your distribution.
@@kuplung22you can always switch off auto updates in windows to avoid the sudden updates m8, also mac os or Linux cant be compared with windows, of you hate the ADs and bloatware you can get the windows lite version that has all the important things except adware and additional softwares, and of you want it even more lightweight you can use windows DeBloat tools that literally removes all softwares and processes that you dont require, Windows is still the Kind 👑...
8:27 Easy Anti Cheat, which is shown here, DOES work on Linux. Most anti cheats that don't work on Linux are kernel level, but Easy Anti Cheat does work, so games utilizing it can easily be played on Linux! Fortnite can't be for some reason tho
Nah, EAC doesn't work on Linux. Some games that use EAC will let Linux play the game anyway, but this is accomplished by basically turning EAC off. When you play Total War on Linux, EAC doesn't interact with the Linux kernel, meaning a kernel modified to cheat in Warhammer 3 can enable cheats. Meaning that Creative Assembly put EAC in their game and then voluntarily turned it off if you play on Linux. Most developers won't do that, they put EAC in their game for it to be enabled.
WOULD U GIVE US "LINUX FOR DINGUSES" VIDEOS AS YOU LEARN? 🙏 It would help so many people (hi) who wanna do what you're doing but are also overwhelmed by the curve! 💞
Malware means it's doing something "bad" or against the will of the owner. Anti-cheat doesn't check either of those boxes. Words do have meaning, after all.
@@tim3172 Well I don't want my video games to have kernel level access to everything on my system, (Heck, I don't want nearly any program having those privileges) so I would classify it as malware by your definition. Most of the games that don't work on Linux are like this and because of that most games that don't work on Linux are games I actively don't want on my computer. I have only one or two games in my library that I actually like that don't work, but funny enough, I actually have about the same number of games that ONLY work on Linux due to them being old and Proton having better compatibility with them compared to modern Windows.
Sadly theres now 10k odd comments so you'll never see this, however. So I'm one of "those types", I'm a professional software engineer who grew up with command line only computers too. But there is one very big advantage to command line/terminal interfaces, not just Linux but windows, osx, VM, everything. How Tos. Graphical vs Terminal GUIs vary from machine to machine, different OS patches, different application versions, buttons can be in slightly different places. This can make following a graphical how to tricky, sometimes impossible and always dangerous. But a terminal how to? Copy, paste, press enter. Guaranteed to follow the guide precisely. It's great stuff and i always look for a terminal guide for anything I'm learning
They are both Unix "based". So in a sense, yes but actually no. "Basic" commands work on both and for what Wade was talking about (browsing directories and files) sure it's all the same, however, a lot of tools are not compatible with one or the other. A lot of times you can find the source code on GitHub and build it yourself though, unless you think that is for smelly nerds (I hope someone gets this).
my main problem is that most linux devs don't get that for mass adoption everything needs to be intuitive and easy to do, I shouldn't need to open the terminal to uninstall a program, it should be in the right click memu in the program manager. can you tell im slightly salty. doesn't mean I won't keep using it
Many Linux devs understand this. But Linux is not a single company. It's a giant ecosystem with a lot of things happening in many different directions. When you install Linux you are really installing thousands of independent programs that speak to each other. Like the Desktop Environment is separate to the Window Manager, which could be running two fully different systems completely, one of which was originally written ostensibly in a few weeks by a dev in 1980s (X11) for a university project, that can technically run screens over networks, and coordinates input from like 6 different processes. One might say, let's fix this crazy old thing, and a movement starts (Wayland). But everything is built for all the existing one, so now you have to port a ton of stuff. And now driver makers like Nvidia have to worry about two standards, and they are notoriously bad with one in the first place. The main money going into Linux is mostly for servers and enterprise - sadly the consumer desktop space always lagged behind, a ton of work was soley being done by people in their spare time desperately trying to get hardware manufacturers's drivers to work. Valve heading Vulkan and Proton injected a gigantic stimpack into the ecosystem though. System76's PopOs are who I'm rooting for in this space for making something usable for the average user, they actually sell a hardware product. But they ruffled a lot of feathers
@@GeneralNicklesare you on arch? Mine (Fedora) and most other distros nowadays ship with gnome software or kde discover that does exactly this and lets you do whatever you want with apps without touching the terminal
You're almost following the 3-2-1 backup strategy perfectly! 3 backups, 2 onsite, 1 offsite. 2 Backups works plenty tho! Glad to see you're having a blast with Linux, Wade!
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Linux Pros and Cons:
Pro: You can change everything
Con: You can change everything
copypasta: The best Saying I’ve ever heard about Linux is this:
The best thing about Linux is it’ll do exactly what you tell it to do.
The Worst thing about Linux is it’ll do EXACTLY what you told it to do.
You can really break linux if you don’t know what you’re doing
@@joseramonremes9736 I mean, you can even break Windows if you don't know what you're doing. I work in IT, and a colleague of mine literally broke a production server because he was moving some files in Explorer, and accidentally moved some random folder inside system32 folder somewhere else (it was just an accidental drag-drop)...
@@jimmythebold589 That's an age-old adage about computers in general.
@@joseramonremes9736Not a biggie. Reinstalled in no time.
+1 love-hate relationship gained
It's gaming man
when are you going to collab with dankpods
brimbusstudio
it's dingus man 2
Hurry up and install gentoo on a smart fridge already.
Windows: "NOOOOO! You can't uninstall Edge! Your system will break!"
Linux: "What? You want me to uninstall the utility that allows your system to boot? Sure, I can do that~"
On fedroa software manger you can look at the reviews of the parantel controll programme. 😂 All them are : this is bloatware why cant i unnistall this? ?!?!?!
It is like 1 mgb that doesnt run only when used........
@@juriaan5786 LINUX USERS HATE BLOAT i uninstall nano lmao
never forgetting when two weeks ago i was cleaning up my packages and accidentally uninstalled grub lmao
I uninstalled edge like 2 hrs ago on my new PC
EU regulation moment
@@Arik-isharshu Hurray for EU regulation!
5:28
If you know that you want VLC that's enough, the package manager will automatically install the latest version when you tell it to install VLC.
Yeah, most common software you just type in the name and that's it. There's some weird stuff with e.g. Python because you gotta install the python3 and not just the python package, and some niche stuff might just not be on your distro's repositories.
@@maxcchiru anything that’s not in the repos can be installed as a flatpak or a snap, too. And afaik all DEs have a UX friendly application store
also, most package managers have good wrappers that let you discover packages with a TUI
and also update it to the newest version + all other programs on your system. I'm a programmer first and foremost and still have windows dual booted for gaming but will never do any serious work on Windows anymore literally just because of package managers,
@@davidsantana4276 iv'e had issue with the built in software managers/'stores', but that might be partially because i ran it on a intel atom with 2GB RAM. Everything you do in these can be done in terminal though, including searching for new stuff. it's just that its typically easier with a gui, especially the searching part
Ubuntu: Ancient Bantu word meaning 'humanity to others'.
Mbutu: Ancient Aussie word meaning 'no data to others'.
Ubuntu is ancient African for, cannot configure Debian.
@@1pcfred Having used Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and a few others, YEP! 🤣
I have my one important server running Debian LTS, I haven't touched it in about 4 years aside from checking for security updates and the RAID array, and I don't intend to because my notes on setting it up are a mess lol.
@@Lizlodude ever tried nixos? if you mess something up you can easily just rollback to the last working version of your config
@@d.bannings Not yet. Windows on my laptop crapped itself so bad that it can't even update anymore, so after the WI-FI vulnerability I can even use it lol, I'm probably just going to switch to Linux on that. I'll take a look when I get around to that, thanks.
Turnbulluntu: Aussie word for a former failed ruler who helped to send Australia's internet speed to 89th in the world.
8:42 it's not that 'Linux doesn't want that', but rather the anticheats don't want Linux. The system itself could most definitely support an anticheat that runs in the kernel level
I think most Linux users know that kernel anticheat sucks ass and wouldn't voluntarily install it.
The problem is the anti-cheat would have to support some combinations of different libraries (like systemd, pipewire, wayland or even different kernel modules).
Also, as @alex38235 said, there is slim chance people will be willing to install big attack vector to their systems, especially as most kernel-level ones doesn't even need to be that low, just wants it to get more data...
Why bother, especially if Valve can do everything for them with Proton. Also I would actually prefer better Proton than native Linux version which would be released and immidiately forgotten.
Easy AC works well on Linux, see for example Apex Legends (At least a year ago). It even works with Proton, as I've recently learned. It's just that the game devs don't enable Easy AC for Linux.
As for the others: Vanguard, Riot claimed that so few people play on Linux that it's not worth developing it for Linux. EA didn't say anything to my knowledge, but it's EA, what do you expect. Finally, Valve's VAC runs natively on Linux as well.
@@tedzards509 To be fair, VAC is server-sided, not client-sided, so it works on basically every machine. Besides that, yeah, most devs simply do not care enough or fear that it wastes money at best. Anti-cheat systems should honestly just be server-sided these days.
You're wrong. We used to have a linux version of easy anticheat, then epic bought them and like a year after they stopped developing the linux version. Same thing happened with a couple games, rocket league and borderlands had a native linux clients, epic bought them and they stopped developing the native clients.
One big issue with the "you end up in the terminal" is that often GUIs *do* exist, but all the guides and tutorials use the terminal because it's just *so* much easier to say "run these commands: (list of commands)" than "click here (screenshot) then here (screenshot) then here (screenshot)". It'd be better for new users to have the latter, but I don't know how you incentivise people to make those.
Well said
It is usually knowledgeable user making guide, and most knowledgeable user bias towards the effectiveness of a terminal
On windows, they don't really have a choice lol
Since there are so many DEs there would need to be 5 different versions of the same tutorial to cover it all, whereas with the terminal it is the exact same process regardless of DE or distro(for the most part)
One for Gnome, KDE, Cinnamon, elementaryOS, Deepin, xfce, now cosmic and many distros also customize the base DE beyond recognition.
This.
You can wonder - why people haven’t made a user comprehensible gui for that - but they probably did, you just need to find out about it.
The main bane of Linux is app distribution, in some cases you just can’t realistically produce binaries for every distro.
@@shApYT yeah, if you're making your tutorial about the terminal the most you'll have to vary is usually which package manager you have
@@Unexpectedstuff That's why I love flatpak. Just works on basically every major distro without weird dependency issues.
One challenge that linux faces is this: Software A doesn't launch on Windows: "Wow, this software really sucks!". Sofware A doesn't launch on Linux: "Wow, Linux really sucks"
Software A doesn't launch on Linux: **user edits the source and recompiles until it does, then pushes a repo pull request**
@@thewolfinsee that’s the other problem. I know what that means but to like 99% of people out there that is just scary gibberish
@@thewolfin recompile Adobe Photoshop, we'll wait
@@all_tags_sprayed Better idea: Use an app that doesn't suck.
GIMP is free.
@@nyalan8385it’s just nerd for: when you don’t make it work on Linux, I do.
However, it is very unrealistic and you don’t have to bother with it realistically. When a software is officially supported on Linux, it usually comes with fairly straight forward installation instructions for the most common Linux versions. 99% of the time common stuff will just work. If the software isn’t built for Linux, sometimes there are good alternatives for Linux, if not you’re out of luck unfortunately
Your gripes are extremely reasonable, whatever other Linux enthusiasts may say. And I say that as a Linux enthusiast.
And let me guess - you *cannot* tell a lie
For the record I agree I just found it humorous the way you phrased it 😅
Same, I've been using Linux for many years now, and it's unfortunate how many issues there still are, although things have been improving recently, and things like the Steam Deck and SteamOS are only going to speed up progress
i work with linux and i dislike using it as a desktop
And there are work arounds to all his gripes. Most of his issues are due to him running garbage Ubuntu/Gnome/X11 with probably ancient Nvidia drivers lol
Arch linux is truly awefurable for general users. Like trying to install any programs that arent on the steam deck 'app store' requires a masters degree in coding.
Outside of that i love not being bombarded with "youu must update now or we will hunt you down" popups every month. Or the massive amount of bloatware on windows, or the fact that microsoft word is no longer FREEEE. SCREW MICROSHLONG
“I’m turning into a penguin.” amazing statement.
Bro is a penguinugget
I love pingu
Im turning into a female penguin *looks for programming socks*
First the penguin in you awakens because of steam os then 1 year later you became a big penguin boy and uses ubuntu
relatable
“Giving up convenience for control” is a pretty accurate way of describing a lot of Linux distrobutions
Except you don't really lose any control by using Linux Mint over Arch. Anything [Linux distro for enthusiasts] can do can also be done on [Linux distro for beginners], or really any other distribution, you just need to know how, and the path to doing so is similar enough that you most likely won't feel lost. They all have the same control, other distributions just have some exclusive features only nerds care about (like Gentoo's use flags, or the AUR, or not having to use systemd, or whatever NixOS has)
nixos is an exercise in patience
@@tbqhwyfbut i'm a nerd, who wants the AUR, the customzability :(
It's super convenient to let others (big companies, governments, etc.) take all the responsibility off your hands, but that gives them control.
If you want control over something, you gotta take responsibility for every little bit of it, and that's *super inconvenient.*
Convenience vs control is a debate for the ages. Linux definitely doesn't land on the convenience side. lol
@@p3chv0gel22 Good God, the AUR is a blessing. That is the one thing I miss the most about Arch and Arch-based distros in general.
i am always so here for big creators diving into linux in any way shape and form. bc this is how we create change. this is how we get more attention on linux, more users and ultimately and eventually more compatibility. the linux iceberg is huge and what it really needs is experts that are ready to stop gatekeeping and start helping others get to grip with it
And yet nobody is gonna ever use it unless somebody creates GUIs for it. Not everyone wants to die of old age typing away into a fucking command prompt.
@@MonstertruckBadass im super confused. most linux distros now have full GUI-based installations from start to finish, including full access to the OS via a GUI.
the rare times you actually have to open a terminal on most consumer distros is to troubleshoot a very specific configuration issue. you can even have several GUIs to choose from if you feel like exercising choice (gnome, kde, xfce to name a few)
i completely agree. what's your take on YTB?
@@MonstertruckBadassBait.
The best Saying I’ve ever heard about Linux is this:
The best thing about Linux is it’ll do exactly what you tell it to do.
The Worst thing about Linux is it’ll do EXACTLY what you told it to do.
the heart of computer ideology, at its greatest/worst
sudo rm -rf /
Why is everything gone?
Sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
Me: i want to delete the bootloader
Linux: sure thing pal
@@ThePolishOrange that isn't really destructive on its own...? maybe if you shut your computer down after deleting the bootloader, but I think one can just fix the problem by doing a chroot into the system, then reinstall the bootloader (or swap for another bootloader, lol), and done.
Several points (sorry in advance for the wall of text):
* Keep all your personal data on drives that don't have operating system stuff on them. Yes, this is going to require you (or someone you bribe with food) to do some command line wizardry. It's worth it. Why? If something goes wrong with your operating system, you can physically pull your personal data drive out of the machine, reinstall the operating system, put the drive back, do the command line wizardry again, and all your personal stuff is back as if nothing went wrong. After several times, you won't even need someone to do it for you, because you'll know what you're doing.
* Consider ditching Ubuntu. The company behind it, Canonical, are up to some shady stuff. They're trying to make themselves a critical lynch pin in the Linux world, which means that they're gearing up to turn evil. Maybe. Point is, considering why you switched to Linux in the first place, you may want to avoid them. I personally have been using Linux Mint Debian Edition, and I've been able to make Steam work just fine. It's also pretty close in interface to Windows 7, so you'll know how to use it from the get-go. (In particular, it's got a lot of GUI utilities built in.) Others enjoy using Pop!_OS for gaming. If you're unsure, ask your Floaties and your Linux pro IRL friends. There are 10k flavors of Linux out there. There's one that will fit you like a glove.
* Thanks for sticking it out. As I mentioned in the first point, You're going to get good enough at command line stuff that most of it doesn't confuse you anymore. It's going to happen. How do I know? Because you don't have anywhere else to go, as you've made very clear in this video. Are there GUI tools for things? Yes. Should you rely on them? Absolutely! Will there be things you want to do that don't have a GUI solution? Yep. When that happens, be patient with yourself. Take a deep breath, and remember that with modern machines, very few things you can do can cause problems that can't be solved by reinstalling the operating system. You've got this. As long as you're keeping backups of all your data, like you mentioned, you're going to be just fine.
* I personally would really appreciate it if you could give us an update six months or a year down the line. Tell us what you've learned. Tell us what you like. ESPECIALLY tell us what frustrates you, so that we engineering types can better understand the human psychology behind user behavior. We 'experts' can often lose track of the pain points that beginner Linux users face. If something is frustrating you, make a video ranting about it! Even if you have an epiphany in the middle, we can use such a video to learn how to better communicate with users. Remember that every time (and I do mean EVERY TIME) you are frustrated, there is something for us to learn. We open source devs want to learn how to do better. We want you to complain! (That said, some people may try to tell you where you went wrong, and how your frustration is your fault. Try to ignore them. I'm sure you know the type.)
All in all, thanks for being willing to take the plunge into unfamiliar territory. As @BringusStudios mentioned, a love-hate relationship is normal. You've got this, loud Australian man!
On your first point do you mean dont keep any personal data on boot/os drives?
For point 1, Is there a starting point to learn this wizardry? Or any special search terms? No one I know uses Linux and I just pick at it now and then
Point 1:
Actually, don't - just set up a /home mount on another partition or drive, and be done with it immediately. No need for *random* command-line wizardry when you can just make /home belong to another part of the drive and/or another drive entirely* - you just need to make sure said drive always exists on the machine if you do the latter else the OS'll brick.
You also get the bonus of the /home being independent of OS reinstalls, as you've somewhat alluded to.
* You just need to edit /etc/fstab and get the UUID of your new /home partition with another Terminal command - blkid or something like that? - just be warned that doing this is risky and can cause an OS brick if done incorrectly (also you'd need to make sure to move your home folder to the new partition first to guarantee it remains accessible when you mount the new /home in its place).
Ultimately, much easier to just do it BEFORE you install the OS.
all this is super well said and matches what I was thinking too!
For point 1 I do have the easier way, just because my laptop has space for 2 hard drives. The second on has all my stuff (with shortcuts to the desktop for my convenience) while the main one has the OS and programs like Steam.
I used partitions in the past, but Windows made it difficult to run both when the free space was becoming smaller with each update. I haven't got any problem since then.
thing is, linux is like driving a manual car.
Car enthusiasts love manuals because they give you control. Normal people hate manuals because they make you be in control.
Same with Linux. The advantage is you have complete control over the system and are not treated like a child or idiot. The disadvantage is that you have complete control over the system and are not treated like a child or idiot.
Alas I don't inherently understand linux despite my europeanness.
Ubuntu and Mint are the easy start for new Linux user imo
If peoples would want more specific OS with time it's where fun begin
Idk if that's an apt comparison, learning the ins and outs of Linux is way harder and more time consuming that learning to drive manual 😂
That is really clear.
@@LookinLikeSoupyou mean a sudo apt comparison, yes?
Hey Linux beginners, the biggest change in your PC behavior you have to do is to stop Google for software. Every Distribution comes with some kind of Store, like Google Play- or Apple App-store on your phone, which contains nearly every single app you whish for in a nice UI way, no terminal required! (of course there are companies who are avoiding adding their apps to it, but this is not the norm) The ease of installing software is in my opinion the biggest strength of GNU/Linux, it's just seamless.
A small side note: desktop recording currently is a hit and miss, since most distributions are currently moving from x11 to Wayland (in short a new and improved way to how everything is displayed on your screen) and while this move is ongoing you can expect some display/recording related issues, but I can confidently say that this should be resolved in the next major updates or years (depending on how much your distribution of choice delays software updates)
I downloaded OBS from its website once, and the recording was bugged.
Got it again from the built in application manager, everything works without issue.
As someone who has recently made the jump, the application manager is such a strange, but beautiful concept to me. I love it.
honestly, as a linux user for about 1.5 years now, please complain. im serious. when LTT did the linux challenge, a ton of changes came about to improve the daily usability of the OS, and prevent things from going *too* wrong. linux is open source, but the downside of that is the developers are experts, and therefore make the os for experts, and often lose track of what the beginners want. videos like this really help the linux ecosystem become more friendly to beginners and flatted that difficulty wall you face at the start of your journey.
best of luck with the switch. it gets easier eventually!
The package manager literally told him not to do it. Linux lets you do foolish things because if it didn't then you couldn't do clever things.
@@1pcfred i am a little disappointed he said "installing things from the terminal requires prior knowledge" when he could just `apt search`...
@@trustytrojan knowing the command, apt search is prior knowledge. I like apt-file too. I use apt-file to install dev deps when I compile stuff.
My experience with Linux forums typically goes something like this:
- I want to do X, but I don't know how. Can someone help me?
- Sure! Here are steps 50-200. That'll do it!
-Thanks, but how do I get to step 50?
-Listen, if you're going to be a moron, we're not going to help you.
@@sethbramwell you need to gain more experience. Level up! You've got to earn your bones. You're told to RTFM because no one is going to type the manual out for you now. You do have to read it too. You're lucky when you can even find documentation. A lot of folks don't like to write that stuff. If you only knew how hard it used to be to get X to run. Do an image search for xvidtune warning That's not a joke. You literally could blow your monitor up. Ask me how I know. You have no idea how easy you have it today. But there is more lore to know now.
Whoever made the meme at 2:18 has clearly never met a Linux user cause everyone knows Linux users don't use Chrome.
Plenty of users use chrome or chromium-based browsers for a variety of reasons. Not every Linux user necessarily forces themselves to use Firefox and only Firefox
@@pakhyeoncheol firefox isn’t even what it used to be anymore. :(
Brave and ungoogled chromium are the new wave at the moment, or forks of firefox like librewolf and mullvad browser. I miss the cute fox…
I'm a Linux user. I use Vivaldi
Chrome is the IE of the 2020s. So much corporate garbage only works on it.
@@SneakyJoeRu same.
Having used Linux as a "casual" linux user for the last like 20 years I would say that Linux is great for two types of people, the ones that are very computer savy and are fine with breaking their OS try to "fix" something, and people that just do everything they need on a computer in a web browser.
the first is my Linux server at work, the second is my Linux "media box" at home which is mainly used to stream TV/video/YT through the browser
Until Xorg randomly break
That’s why I only recommend distros that have snapshot rollback support built-in so you can recover very quickly, or an immutable/atomic distro.
@@MrDanielcesarthat's why Wayland
Agree, doing anything else will take WAY more time and will drain the stamina (and possibly mental health, as well) of those who want to try.
Two things which are just false:
1. You don't need to know the exact name of the program you want to install from the terminal. If you don't say what version, it will just grab the latest one. Or you can search the repository if you don't know the name either.
2. There are lots of graphical software stores (kinda like on Android). Ubuntu comes with its own store too, it's pinned to the dock on the left hand side, and you can use it to install most programs, from Steam to VLC.
The amount of packages I've tried installing only to realise it's something like
program-bin or program-dev is infuriating. I think the point is half valid
@@sw11500when you want to install stuff on windows you don’t go directly to the website, you search it on google. same on linux, if you don’t know the package name, you search, for example you google steam package ubuntu and wow, look at that, you just found the package name
That’s not false he just didn’t know lmfao
@@bogeymanbear they're still false?
Linux community opinion definitely has a weird paradox of wondering why people are still using Windows and macOS while simultaneously being pretty hostile to beginners. I know it's not necessarily intentional, but as someone who knows Debian-based Linux pretty well, it's a little discouraging seeing others dismiss concerns from people saying they can't switch because of program X or game Y.
The answer to getting more people using Linux is to create functional alternatives or get the big programs working (either through emulation or convincing companies to provide official support). When someone says they still use Windows because of Photoshop, telling them to "just use GIMP" or Krita isn't helpful or constructive, and I wish more Linux enthusiasts realized that. It's also just possible for there to not be a solution for everyone, and that's fine too.
Actually I though that the impossibility to run photoshop on linux was a basic antimalware feature of linux to protect the user.
A lot of communities have that crab mentality of “we want new people” and “you don't understand this? What a joke!”. Competitive gaming (especially the Smash scene), musicians, even jobs have that same problem.
Also photoshop is a buggy mess but some companies insist on keeping it.
Just use arch…
JK JK i do however think the linux community is hostile towards bad software not beginners, it just so happens that a lot of bad software is commonly used by everyday users because well… they don’t know nor care that its bad software. You should switch from adobe because they are a predatory deprecated company that is out of ideas other than StOp PiRaTiNg not because it doesn’t run on Linux natively.
I think in the end windows will stay the mainstream os (~60% of users) Mac will become the creative os even more so than now, and Linux is gonna be for devs, stem, and maybe gaming if Microsoft messes up badly. But hey that’s just my theory
@@nifftbatuff676linux has some sandboxing and features but it will also do exactly what you tell it to do provided you go through the right channels. Nothing is immune to malware and you can absolutely run stuff like kernel drivers or anticheat on Linux
Clashing of user methodology. people who grew up with the terminal workflow basically experience culture shock from more average users is my assumption
9:03 What you're looking for is an immutable linux distro
SteamOS itself is an immutable linux distro
There's many of them out there
Amen.
Yeah, I wonder how it will go with installing codecs and graphics drivers on such a distribution. Every guide will point to incorrect paths and commands. Before he learns to find the ones for him, he'll throw his computer out the window.
For example: VanillaOS, Fedora Silverblue/Kinote and (for the brave of heart) NixOS are good ones!
nixos as a beginner distro?
@@kurtmayer2041 why not? if this is the first one you learn, the way it works is just normal
5:25 is imo one of the best "GUI vs CLI" descriptions for most people. A gui is faster, if you don't know what you need or where you finde it. A CLI is faster of you know exactly what you want and how you want it
But that's not specific to Linux ;)
@@p3chv0gel22 50/50
I use paru (Arch Linux User Repo helper) which allows me to index all packages based on name and description, so for example when I run 'paru code editor' it will come up with packages that match that, like VSCode, Zed, Sublim text, etc.
But I still use flathub to find cool new apps I had no clue about
What's CLI stand for?
@@VeryRGOTI Command Line Interface
@@VeryRGOTI Command Line Interface, aka the terminal
For easy things when you don't understand the OS maybe. Personally I find it way better to just check the documentation and then be able to know exactly how to do something as well as invariants of that operation. The point where a GUI needs a guide/training to use effectively is when I deem it strictly inferior to CLI (obviously glossing over editor software where being able to see the thing you're editing is a little bit important). The biggest difference is what I gain out of solving a problem. On Linux I gain more understanding on how a program and operating system function allowing me to be more efficient and flexible in the long run. The biggest problems with GUIs is that due to their nature of abstracting the underlying program makes it much harder to resolve issues with the program and figure out whether the software is flawed or whether I'm just having a skill issue.
It's unfortunately not for everyone but it's something I believe everyone who uses computers for any significant amount of time should learn to use.
Honestly, thanks for the encouragement; this was just the little push I needed to take the plunge starting with an old, ancient laptop. Hope you, and everyone else who tries can stick with it!
For anticheats, 90% of games technically work!
Easy Anticheat as well as BattleEye have native Linux versions as well as full official support to work through Proton. The issue - developers need to manually enable it on a per game basis. It's not a difficult process, usually just switching a switch, but developers just choose not to do it.
Though to be frank, how effective is the Linux version of those anti-cheat solutions considering that afaik they run in user space instead of kernel space?
It could be argued that they don't enable Linux support to avoid creating a potential gap in their anticheat
yea i dont understand his explanation of "linux doesn't want any of that," it's not that Linux refuses to run drivers (on the contrary, it doesn't require signed drivers at all unlike windows, and mac I don't even know if you can write drivers for it) the problem is game developers refuse to enable Linux support. tim sweeny is famously a linux hater
@@dan3817 Pretty useless. It's basically the same as VAC.
This is exactly why competitive games never support Linux. Ironically too much freedom allows easy cheats
@@dan3817 they work well enough. the truth is that if someone's making cheats for linux to go around the anticheat they can probably get around it in countless different ways. commercial ACs like EAC or BattleEye work okay at stopping whatever free garbage virus you can find, but most of the work of combatting cheaters is still on the shoulders of the game devs
@@dan3817 nah it's lazy devs being lazy, security is mentioned just as an excuse
Linux as a complete Windows replacement is very hard to adapt to because feature wise it is 98% there, but the last 2% also happen to be the things I use the most frequently on Windows
every cad and creative app ever(and no the linux alternatives aren't that good)
@@lukeskywalker2That might've been true 10 years ago, but not so much nowadays. Blender works natively for 3d. For CAD, spinning up Fusion 360 takes a bit of working around, but it's easily possible, and you can also use Onshape since that's browser based. DaVinci Resolve is pretty good for video editing.
Really the big missing one is Photoshop, but there are so many alternatives getting better with each day that unless you need everything it has to offer there is bound to be one that covers your specific needs.
@@ChristopherGray00 I believe Linux sucks for DAWs, no? It's been a few years since I've tried
@@lukeskywalker2Minus the CC features, I've heard Adobe's suite works quite well on Linux... if you pirate it. I think you have to do the initial install on Windows, though, and then copy the files over
every game in my library, drivers for my DAC, audio software.. and the fact linux doesnt work unless you suck it off..
yeah. had to touch debian, kali, ubuntu- they are all just varying levels of "fuck you, because."
For the people who want to switch to Linux: take it easy.
First: watch tutorials (it is important that they are recent ones). Start by learning what Linux is, the differences with Windows, and some of the basics.
You can still use windows alongside with dual booting; you can install Linux on another disc/partition, or another PC/Laptop you have around. It is important to have a reason to use it, so try to install a software you need, that way little by little you start to learn. And yes, you will need to learn some stuff, because it is different, and remember you are switching cause it is different.
Look for Linux communities, forums, discord, etc. Ask there for the info you need, and be patient, they are just people like you.
I recommend to start with Linux Mint.
Edit: Lots of people said that lately Windows Updates are breaking dual boots when installed on the same disc, so if you are new, avoid that option. If you want to dual boot, install Linux on a different drive if you can.
Mint and Ubuntu are both great starters, as someone who tried both! Ubuntu seems to be heading in a weird subscription model direction tho, so newcomers beware Ubuntu.
Also snaps smell and should go away
This is nonsense. It doesn't matter how recent the tutorials are, even if they are for the specific version you are using, it doesn't work. Linux needs to pull it's head out of it's ass and respect the GUI, no one gives a shit about the terminal.
@@Disthron false. im a linux noob and love the terminal way more than gui's.
@@DisthronLinux is just a kernel. It's not like with Windows where the entire operating system start to finish is made by one company.
I second Linux Mint. Even my mom could make the switch, and she's retired.
Just take note that, by default, deleting files via terminal is non-recoverable (i.e., there's no such thing as a recycle bin). Yes, there are possible workarounds, but they're not beginner-friendly.
sudo rm -rf */
@@monkepog3236thanks for writing it incorrectly you saved someone's life lol
You're the exact kind of user we need, just keep on yellin' and we'll get to fixin'! This info is invaluable so by all means keep documenting your adventure as much as possible!
0:04 "im turning into a penguin" did he buy the programming socks?
That's an image I don't want to see
@@horseonabeachball5996 wouldn't be surprised if you were a minority here tbh
you dont choose the programming socks, the programming socks choose you u_u
@@martenmaarten u fucking gooner
UwU
Hating the big corpos enough that you're willing to put up with the inconvenience means that you've passed the first test. I'm so proud
Why does hating corporations have anything to do with which OS to use? Do you take the same approach with cars, vacuum cleaners, shoes, phones etc, and always look for free stuff? There is nothing wrong with corporations making a profit. In fact, it's their responsibility to shareholders to do so.
@@toby9999...Cause I want data security? I don't wanna be advertised to every second? I'm not a mindless glutton for consumerism?
@@toby9999corporations tend to ruin good things, especially when shareholder profits are involved
@@toby9999 found the bootlicker
@@toby9999 I couldn't care less about the shareholders. I'm a consumer, so I'll worry about what matters to me as a consumer. And I can say, as a consumer, that it's not looking great and it's looking so not great that I'd rather pick the free OS. I mean, why wouldn't I? It's a free OS that works just fine
In Wales in the UK we have a mountain called Snowden that is popular with people to climb. If you want to can just hop on a train and it will take you all the way to the top and back. You can bask in the views having not lifted a finger. Yet many people still enjoy climbing the mountain (I'm one of those people). If you're the guy who takes the train up the mountain, stick with Windows or Apple and save yourself the pain.
A shitty, non user friendly OS is not equivalent to climbing a mountain. It’s equivalent to jumping off a cliff with schrodingers parachute instead of just walking down.
Hey Dank!
As an IT administrator for a US Govt agency, I'm also very fed up with the direction Windows has been going lately, my home computer has also been on Linux for a couple years.
My recommendation for my favorite Linux distro is Mint. It's going to feel somewhat familiar to you, since it's based on Ubuntu, but it has a few nice features that keep you out of the terminal if you don't want to be there. The software manager behaves kind of like an app store, and the update manager is the same one Ubuntu uses.
Absolutely! It's extremely beginner friendly and is extremely stable. If you need software it makes it very easy to install too!
>it admin for us govt agency
>chooses frankendebian
something ain't right chief
@@destrierofdark_ I tried to like Debian but having to remove the bootable media from the list of apt sources before I could install updates was the first of many frustrations. I have to fix computer issues all day at work, I just want my home PC to require as little tinkering as possible.
Agreed. Even as an experienced user, Linux Mint is just so nice. I haven't technically needed to use the terminal even once. I say technically because I have used the terminal many times, but the GUI option was always there and easily accessible.
@@ch3fxexcell3nce kubuntu is what I chose and what serves me pretty much perfect. I know about the cdrom debian-ism, but keep in mind that distro is from the early 90s, and rarely sheds the old cruft. only recently did they allow non-free software on their install media, mind.
The problem with user friendliness in starting with Linux is that the "best" distro/setup for new users changes all the time. Ubuntu used to be the best option like 5-10 years ago, but now there's stuff like Linux Mint that are a lot better for beginners (IMO). In particular, GNOME has been making a lot of poor decisions that hurt usability, which is why I personally point new users towards KDE or Cinnamon distros instead (which are a lot more Windows-like). But people only know Ubuntu, so that's the one they choose, and they end up with the bad choices, like (debatably) snaps and GNOME. And elitists can never agree about anything, so new users get overwhelmed with the alternatives and just choose to stick with what they know instead.
Exactly what I wanted to say
Yeah for beginners I’d say Linux Mint and then for if you want more than that Fedora KDE.
gnomes decisions seem to be targeted more at touchscreens at this point which is fine imo, it was a bit of whiplash using it coming from Plasma but honestly if i were building a tablet linux system i'd probably just go straight to gnome.
I think KDE Plasma is the best option even on Debian/Ubuntu. Works like all the good parts of Windows 7 and 10 yet has a sleaker design than 11.
You nailed it. I still run Ubuntu because I'm an idiot who actually likes GNOME but the rest of the kit in the house runs either Zorin or Mint. The Linux elitists can stay in mum's basement for all I care, for the rest of humanity Linux Mint is a perfect distro for new users.
Amazing, dude did the digital equivalent of "fuck this, im moving into the woods"
two kinds of people:
"ugh I wish I could leave windows/mac city but there's nothing to do out in the woods :("
"aah...love the fresh air out here in the GNU/woods :)"
best choice ever
let's hope he doesn't start sending zipbombs to people
More like moving from NA to an Amsterdam/other well developed European city
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx more like GNU+Woods
Nowadays, most distros have some guardrails to prevent people from completely breaking their system.
Many distros won't let you run "sudo rm -rf /" and, when you're potentially breaking system packages, APT doesn't just ask you for "y/n" but forces you to write an entire sentence to make sure you know what you're doing is potentially dangerous (although, just like Linus, it will allow you to break things once you do that).
If, on Linux, the system says you shouldn't be doing something or make sure you know what you're doing, it's a good time to reevaluate and look/ask around for answers.
Be careful because now you've been diagnosed with Linux... It's *terminal*
tada.wav
Ba dum tsss...
8:38 Its not "kind of like malware," it just is. It uses the same tactics as a rootkit does. Crowdstrike did the same thing and it killed a ton of computers.
From someone who does not own a computer that does not run linux. Keep at it. The point and click gets better every day, and its already WAY easier than it was a few years ago. The attitude you have, of keeping at it despite the challenge, is what makes open source stuff stronger, and keeps microsoft and apple in check.
I cut my teeth on Ubuntu 6.06, and I’ve been in and out of Linux Land (all the ice cream stands are penguin shaped, obviously), and it has gotten REMARKABLY more approachable since then!
i agree but i defo dont think the big guys are kept in check tho.. Not when spying on your data and having no full admin access built in and handing over biometrics/accepting terms or needing 500 partners tracking cookies to visit a single page is all considered normal by wayy too many people nowdays imo and i hear Ai supervisors are a new thing out now too? and its basically a keylogger so that tops it all off rly lol!
Also anyone old enough remembers that using real credentials was a huge nono on the web always a ridiculous idea not to be done! Well up until recently coz its now mandatory for so many things! its totally insane but the youth dont know because they never witnessed the old web and good parents are seemingly nonexistent so have clearly failed to pass that knowledge down..
I guess it was noticed how the smartest took advantage of early computers to educate ourselves and practise problem solving/fiddling to become even smarter and that had to be stopped..
Also the early web was populated by some of the smartest people now its 99% of every idiot and their child with the smart people as a tiny minority.. the old web is mostly gone now already and since search engines were hijacked its near impossible to find something you don't already know about, like youtube now even has no home page whatsoever if you have no history saved just to make sure it never shows you something new you arent already aware of, ensuring you stay in an echo chamber never really learning anything your not supposed to..
seems like theres a mass dumbing down, nowdays the youth dont protect their freedom or privacy at all! and are super compliant they just do what their told no question and follow signs and where they are allowed its scary to see playing out.. I think its because the worlds been so overbearing and health and safety mad since they were born, using fear to enforce control and theres constant propaganda reinforcing it all over films tv and the web..
Sadly from what iv seen they rarely know how to produce an original idea or act impulsively or independent(only doing things they have been told they can, never anything off their own back iv genuinely witnessed this so many times its scary) and they are extra vulnerable to propaganda due to their 5g umbilacle cord (mum in pocket always which again stops them fully reaching independence) Plus because they often have no social life offline and therefore nobody to chat with or interrupt them and point out the lies or give support n tell them that things can be changed..
i dont know if our own gov is responsible or foreign powers or maybe we just werent ready for the web to be accessed by everyone and its all a big coincidence (doubtful) but the negative effects seem undeniable at this point as far as im concerned..
Every generation had its own feel and its art and music style up until now where its switched to individuals streaming alone and theres no tv shows we all see together anymore or songs on radio we all hear together like there used to be and its a pretty awful sign in my opinion.. Divide and conquer in action
Im a new user to Linux mint and im loving it. So fast, using a 2019 ThinkPad that cost $200 but has 4k screen and LTE
Dude.. WHAT THINKPAD IS THAT I NEED IT
As a proof has far Linux has come: I’m a beginner Linux user and have had no issues with and Arch distro called EndeavourOS. Desktop environments makes using Linux so easy! (Although I’m finding starting to use the terminal more and more everyday). If you just need a working computer to do multimedia and work, Linux does the same thing Windows and Apple can 98% of the time, and it only gets better. Also, I’m learning more IT stuff by booting Linux on an 15+ years old laptop and using it as a server for file sharing, network wide ad blocking. My goal is to completely self-host and move away from Google and Microsoft cloud services. Thanks to Linux being open source and community driven, there are tons of guides, and troubleshooting forums online.
Thanks for sharing this! My first linux was puppy linux i was so confused and tried to switch to ubuntu. The old unity desktop era was so cool, and since then i distrohopped and ends with Arch based distro. the steep learning curve is insane and everyday i keep learning new stuff..
@@danke236 sometimes i wish unity was still a thing.
that 2000s/2010s ui goodness is just chef's kiss
Man i've used endeavorOS. Arch is just so easy to break, after my first kernel update the package manager imploded and i couldn't install, uninstall or update anything until i reinstalled the entire thing. I'll just stay on debian.
@@leo34150 I'd say that from my experience any distro is easy to break. I've tinkered with Debian, Ubuntu, PopOS, Mint, and manged to break them just as well. As you understand how each distro work, you know what not to do. On top of it, I have BTRFS, automatic snapshots, backups, various terminal abd shell tools, and I really have to go out of my way to break anything. I'm in my first year of using EOS, and the only had to rollback to a previous snapshot, just because it was easier than uninstalling a bunch of packages I didn't want. And honestly, ever since I learnt how to use yay I stopped using any other package managers, unless I have to.
@@leo34150 worst piplup guy ever
also, skill issue
Just in case you didn't know, the desktop mode of Steam OS is actually based on something called KDE plasma , So if you like how that looks but also like the simplicity of ubuntu theres a fork called Kubuntu which is literally just ubuntu, with some of the junk removed and with KDE!
Edited to be slightly more acurate
KDE was heavy as heck last time I used it. LXDE usually is much lighter. and we're just talking about desktop environments, not actual OSes.
@@waltercomunello121 kde being heavy doesn’t matter in this circumstance since he has powerful pc’s and also praised ubuntu for immediately allowing him to do basic tasks without playing around in term, and i didn’t claim kde was an os, but kubuntu is probably the best fit for him since he’s already used to all the basics of ubuntu, while also previously liking the kde desktop environment on the deck, so moving over to this would be very easy and add more consistency to all his different machines.
He could alternatively use kde neon which is also based on ubuntu, however it is less stable which is the main thing he wanted in the video.
Also installing kde on normal ubuntu will just lead to more issues as opposed to the fork thats built for it which.
of course wade has his own rights to choose to whatever he wants to use, this is just a recommendation
Plasma is the name of SteamOS' desktop environment. KDE (the desktop bit) "turned" into Plasma some time around 2014.
KUbuntu works well for a lot of folks, but Fedora's KDE Spin works better in my opinion. Ubuntu's a bit slow to update *real* features for my taste, and pushes its own stuff (Snap packages) on top of more typical things. Fedora just ships what it seems like it should, and has similar quality of life features.
@@cromfrein5834 oh yeah i mixed up KDE in general and plasma, although i still think switching the entire base of your OS is not as good as an idea opposed to simply switching pretty much DE alone, especially for someone who's not that good with linux like him.
It's also possible to install Plasma on an existing Ubuntu install, but you might have some odd behavior initially because some things might partially carry over and conflict
i was just thinking “dank has been mentioning linux a lot, i wonder when that video is coming”. as a diehard linux user, thanks for raising awareness to open source stuff!
i’ve been using Linux Mint forever, which in my experience has been the friendliest, but it depends on hardware. it’s hella customizable
I don't use it because I can't get cars 2 the game to work@@bensmart2829
@@bensmart2829 Same but Manjaro
as a casual linux user i love that dank decided to start using it (and also promoting it!)
(i use arch btw)
@bensmart2829 Yeah, i think mint is the best for most people, its polished and really 'just works'. also doesnt have all the ubuntu garbage.
with linux you don't have to use the terminal but some people like to
The three major OS groups when asked to do something that might break the system:
Windows is a security guard at the gate: "Yeah, you cleared your ID with me an hour ago, go ahead if you know what you're doing, but you probably shouldn't."
Mac is a mob boss: _Deep drag on a cigar_ "No."
Linux is an innocent kid high on mountain dew willing to do whatever you say without a second thought: "I don't know, let's find out!" _wipes hard drive with an 8 letter command_
what does 'dd' stand for? disk destroyer
Macs are more: "Well you bought a Mac, so clearly you're a fucking idiot!"
The security guard works for a crappy company.
The mob boss pretends like he doesn't get data leaks.
And the high kid is a high kid.
I know this was a joke, but nowadays Linux will warn you if you try the classic mass delete commands and asks if you really want to wipe all your stuff.
So the 8 letter command was grenades?
I recently made the jump to linux after failing to restore and use a windows machine i got, and it was honestly a little pathetic how impressed i was at the bare minimum of just having complete and total control over an operating system again. No aggravating updates, no wasted time finding drivers, Linux isnt perfect for what i want out of a computer, but it does a damn good job at being a productive system.
"No wasted time looking for drives" man i feel like you're not telling the truth right now because oh boy did i had problems with drives when i first tried linux, spent almost 2 days trying to get everything running
No wasted time finding drivers ?
What kind of windows did you use that you had so many problems
Better question what kind of Linux did you find that it was so problem free
@@Gaaaaaaabrrrrrrriel I installed linux mint actually, it's a very beginner friendly way of getting started with linux. The PC I installed it on isn't very powerful so that may have been why it was easier for me, but Mint was able to quickly identify all the drivers for me
@@Gaaaaaaabrrrrrrriel Depends on the hardware. If it has in-tree drivers, it'll work straight away with no hassle. Already in the kernel, nothing you need to do. But if the drivers are out of tree, you have to hunt them down separately and hope they will work with whatever kernel version you're currently running. For most mainstream hardware, you'll be in group 1, it just works plug and play. But if you aren't, then well... good luck
I love Linux, I really do, but every time i go to daily drive, it manages to bork itself so bad that no fix works and on forums people say that the fix is "reinetall" or "use a live cd"
The Nvidia thing is so bad that Linus himself the creator of Linux flip them off in the video.
That's pretty much why I'm still on Win11
I bet the reason that's happening is because he's running both Nouveau and Wayland. Both of those are fixable from a GUI on Ubuntu
@@vadim6385 handy tip next time you build a computer Just use AMD for everything.
Not anymore. If you use 555.58 or later, it works very well including on Wayland.
@bland9876 that is actually no longer true, as Torvalds publicly stated in a recent interview about AI, and I quote:
"So, when AI people came in, that was wonderful because it meant somebody at NVIDIA had become much more involved on the kernel side, and NVIDIA went from being on my list of companies that are not good to my list of people who are doing really good work. But that doesn't mean that I, personally, end up being interested in AI. I am just interested in what we need to do in the kernel to support AI. I still see myself as a core kernel person. But I think it's a good thing that people specialize."
-KubeCon China, specifically taken from the diginomica article.
I've been using linux for 20 years, and your description of the learning cliff, the terminal, and permissions is spot on. I remember when I started, feeling blind in the terminal, pressing all those cd, ls, pwd commands. Now it feels intuitive, but it was a hell of a ride here.
Regarding Anti Cheat and Linux: Interestingly, the game dead by daylight (briefly shown at 8:49) does use Easy Anti Cheat and works on Linux. It's just that the developers of EAC games have to explicitly enable linux support, which they often do not do.
Insurgency sandstorm is another with EAC that has been working for a while. AFAIK it's just a simple enable option the devs need to toggle on for EAC to work on linux.
EAC itself very proudly supports Linux. It's developers (or publishers more like) that choose not to support it.
Pro tip: Ventoy is incredible and should live on your USB candy instead of messing with Etcher and whatnot. It's literally the drag and drop "install linux" thing you want and you can still use it as a thumb drive.
Thank You so much for this suggestion!
After trying Ubuntu more than 10 years ago (and having massive driver issues), I resolved to actually switch to Linux as soon as Windows 10 Support ends. For this reason I wanted to try different Distros easily and Ventoy is the perfect way to do it (which I hadn't heard off before), as it even allows you to have multiple ISOs on one drive and offering a boot menu for them.
Truly amazing!
100%, changed my life. Get a 128GB stick and throw all the ISOs on it, then make a couple copies of it to leave around all the places machines live.
this. I've got so many ISOs that I can just dump on some random flash drive and all of it just... boots. no fuss, no nothing. it just boots.
I found out about it after Balena just refused to work and I never looked back.
It's also a potential security threat that includes binary blobs with no source code which have not been independently verified.
Bringus studios will be proud of you
He is, see top comment lol
maybe the real year of the linux desktop is the friends we made along the way
I admire your attitude in the face of learning something that seems horrifically obtuse at first. All the random bits will start to make sense soon. So happy to see someone on here give Linux a shot, run into problems, and double down. It's hard to go back once you've peeked behind the curtain a bit and realize just how icky having no control is.
“Thank you for the video” we all say in unison
yes.
Yes
indeed
God no, I still have nightmares of using Linux
i love the internet for this reason
Good to see people move away from never ending enshittification of Windows.
windows is endatastealernugget2000ing
Congrats on the shift, mate. The complaints you have are 100% valid, I share some of them myself as someone who shifted over to solely Linux a few years ago. I salute the dedication.
The no sponsored video approach is great
7:40, just incase anyone was wondering his security code for his alarm.
194915?
The hilarious part is that that is likely his actual code
Maybe it's laid out like a numpad and it's 734375
after switching to linux myself some time ago and loving it i'm so happy to see others doing the same and spreading the word. it's not about linux just being 'better' but having control over your system and OWNING it.
Linux for me is literally "it's fine" among literally products with stuff *designed* to annoy me.
Linux is a 5/10
Problem is, Mac is a 2/10 and Windows is 1/10
@6:15 FUCK YEAH BRO! I hung with it for a few weeks, and now it's been YEARS. You can do it!
I wish windows 7 was still supported. It just worked, no extra garbage. No bloat ware, no mile long list of background processes.
Windows 7 was my childhood
I jumped from Windows 7 to Linux... there was no technical reason for Windows to stop supporting 7... the big change happened with Vista when they jumped from a 32-bit OS to a 64-bit OS... after that point WIndows 7 and Windows 11 are both basically just Vista with a paint job.
I'm still using Windows 7 with no problems. Thinking of XP too.
@@JohnnyThund3ryou can always switch off auto updates in windows to avoid the sudden updates m8, also mac os or Linux cant be compared with windows, of you hate the ADs and bloatware you can get the windows lite version that has all the important things except adware and additional softwares, and of you want it even more lightweight you can use windows DeBloat tools that literally removes all softwares and processes that you dont require, Windows is still the Kind 👑...
@@villemononen5303you can always switch off auto updates in windows to avoid the sudden updates m8, also mac os or Linux cant be compared with windows, of you hate the ADs and bloatware you can get the windows lite version that has all the important things except adware and additional softwares, and of you want it even more lightweight you can use windows DeBloat tools that literally removes all softwares and processes that you dont require, Windows is still the Kind 👑...
4:17 can confirm, I've used Llinux for fifteen years and the terminal is my best friend. It may be really hard to learn at first but once you do have it figured out Linux becomes so much easier than Windows because you can just tell the computer to do exactly what you want it to do, and it does it. It's magic.
So pretty much a Command Prompt on steroids? That sounds pretty good.
As a linux user its really hard to agree with you. Its just annoying that you have to get used to terminal. No other operating system requires that of you. When you install linux, you have to fix whats broken. Just annoying. Although its a free open source service so its to be expected. But that doesn't make it any easier
But... Windows has a terminal too, last I checked.
I can relate though. I've been using Linux on and off for years (mainly for programming) and while I do like the terminal, I gave up on using systems like Arch or Gentoo or whatever and just stick to Mint. I just like a system that's set up out of the box and works well.
@jordanliszewski6549 I get you sort of, but for a lot of users, once they get it, they don't wanna not get it. It's too powerful
No other operating system expects that of you, but also no other operating system respects your privacy and gives you control
But, honestly, I'm a IT professional and I don't even use the terminal all that often. I think the need is exaggerated
3:53 Linux fans, I've noticed, REALLY love to talk about how low and flat the start of that learning curve is nowadays to try and sell you on it.
They don't tend to like it as much when you bring up the cliff that comes afterwards.
I say this as someone who used Linux for years and will probably go back once MS forces me off of Windows 10. I find that the cliff is worth climbing, but trying to downplay its existence is doing a disservice to potential users.
The cliff is there only because other Linux users make it. Whenever you have a problem, there just isn't a simple fix like there is on Windows. Once you know how to solve a problem, you can do it again in 5 minutes, but learning how to solve it can take hours because nothing is explained well online. e.g. You run into a solution that's just like "edit the kernel command line in grub" and 90% of people who see those instructions will just run back to Windows.
IMO, unless you try doing something Linux is not designed to do, you won't even reach the point where you need to climb that cliff, the catch is the "designed" part, since lots of software is not made to support Linux natively, at least for now.
@@hikkamorii Linux isn't "designed" to do anything besides serve as an open foundation for other software. There is no centralized authority designing the whole experience like there is in Microsoft or especially Apple land. That's what makes it great for power users but also what makes it terrible for casuals.
Most people who I installed Linux for never got near the cliff. They just use browsers and click buttons in GNOME Software or KDE Discover to update their system. Sometimes they install an app from said software center and use that, like Discord, Zoom or Spotify.
Linux is really fine for most people that use their computer like a casual laptop user uses their computer.
@@pocketpc_ See, you say there's no centralized authority, but for the vast majority of users, what freedesktop wants, freedesktop gets. systemd, avahi, pulseaudio... GNOME is far and away the biggest DE for Unix-likes, or at least it was until SteamOS went with KDE because they were willing to actually fix the stuff that Valve brought up as issues with it.
If you want to use any modern GUI toolkit these days on a non-systemd system, you pretty much have to install policykit and elogind -- a splinter from systemd -- or things just do not work. Some stuff will still let you build with the old consolekit2 libraries in mind, but I imagine the majority now will not.
I'm not saying this as a systemd hater or anything. I use it, I vastly prefer the syntax of unit files to OpenRC services and such, but to say that there's no centralized authority for (at least desktop -- server, embedded is another story) Linux is, if not factually incorrect, then at least incorrect in practice. You can do things differently, sure, if you want to make things vastly more difficult for yourself.
0:32 THATS AN EXCELLENT IDEA :D
Long time linux user here (daily drive gentoo on desktop and alpine on server). I agree basically wholeheartedly with what youre saying, and dont worry, it gets a lot more convenient once you really know your way around the system. It gets to the point where you get a lot faster using the terminal than a GUI. And on the note of it being possible to break a linux system pretty easily, one of my favorite quotes is "UNIX was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things, as that would also stop them from doing clever things."
I know just enough to be skeptical of what a gentoo user says is convenient
@@waywardscythe3358as a longtime arch user (BTW), I do agree with them
@@waywardscythe3358I have tried most, if not all mainstream distros and the easiest distro was unironically gentoo, it just never runs into problems. Basically once You are done tailoring the system to your needs, you dont need to do anything. And it even has a binary repo if that's what you want. I dont even use terminal anymore (well, only for updating once a month or so) 😊
"Trust me, it's super convenient once you've spent months learning the terminal"
@@ArbiterofMoths It took me at most, 1 week, and after tailoring the system to your needs, it becomes handsdown the most stable distro
WAKE UP, NEW VIDEO OF THE YELLING AUSTRALIAN MAN
Hes not yelling they talk like that all the time due to being on their head all day 😅
😂
I hear it everyday as an aussie😅
Your pfp is perfect for this video's topic, I must say
Just reminds me of Louis Rossmann. Man, sitting in chair yells at cloud.
Theres the linux distros, and then theres the desktop environments. Basically the gui. If you want something similar to steamos desktop, it uses KDE Plasma.
Very well thought out and stated critique. Control vs. convenience is perfect sentiment. It really isn't worth learning for casual computer users who already know Windows/OS X. The most I think average casual users should consider learning is just how to make and use a LiveUSB for a backup way to boot up a PC with a broken Windows install to salvage data, do important crap online, etc.
I say all this as someone who's daily driven Arch Linux for almost 20 years. I love it but it should be clear why the average person doesn't. It's not hard so much as it is *tedious.* lol
Okay so like I’m not the most confident around Linux but I can tell Dankpods is less knowledgeable than me in some regards. So, Dankpods, mate, 9:12 here is your solution to this issue; look for an immutable OS. They get a bad rap in the Linux community but that’s literally only because Linux users are tinkerers. Immutable OSs stop you from messing with your system files, making them a lot harder to break, more reliable and stable. They let you do system wide patches rather than one driver update every day, a bit like what windows does except they don’t shove it down your throat.
Fun fact, I believe steamOS is actually immutable too
The problem is that unless you're just using a browser, sooner or later you'll want or need to "tinker". Not every program is in the flatpak repo, or even in the distribution repo. Proton apps are a good example. I've always been curious about this type of distro, but it's too weird and doesn't protect your computer any better than btrfs snapshot (if you take care of the configuration). Or maybe even worse, because from what I understand, the etc directory is not protected by the system image. So why?
NixOS is immutable *and* tinkerable... it's just not noob-friendly, like, *at all*. But VanillaOS is perfectly functional ootb even with Nvidia GPUs in 2024, and there's also Fedora Silverblue/Kinoite as solid projects that have been going on for many years without issue.
@@hikkamorii It is! Unlike most immutable distros tho, it's less like a single OS install (as with OSTree or Nix) and more like you installed Linux twice, an A-B partition scheme using RAUC ‒ it's the same thing that Android does!
@@xerzy Double that; NixOS is actually _the_ tinkerer's distro. You can do whatever you can with any other distro, except when (not if) you break stuff you can revert almost everything with a reboot (except your data, if you manage to wipe that). As an added bonus, it's trivial to manage dozens of devices with some commonalities by just reusing the common configuration and specifying only the differences. (oh and all the advantages of Nix for developers and sysadmins too, but that's not relevant for most people)
But yeah it's going to be hard, especially if you've never used Linux or if you've used it a lot and have certain expectations that don't hold true with a fully declarative system. For me the learning curve of NixOS after traditional Linux was probably as much as getting into Linux in the first place, and with similar gains.
A MATE desktop environment is for Wade
Get it? 🇦🇺
The MATE desktop environment is actually pronounced "Mah-tay" and is named after the traditional South American drink Yerba Mate.
@@Daktyl198 There it is!!!!!!
M8
I can't believe you've done this 😂
he'll probably do it for the memes 6months down the line
Happy to hear you're making the hop to Linux! But let's not forget that Ubuntu did sell their souls to Amazon and packaged their OS with ads that one time... they're not immune!
Yeah I personally would recommend Linux Mint now over Ubuntu
But too late for that lol
Yeah, Ubuntu is going downhill. Not very steep though.
@@judo_ashtray Linux Mint is what runs my image hosting server cuz I don't trust big tech companies with my pictures and videos. Those stay in my house
eh, its still pretty much the most straightforward and reliable option. i use it everywhere.
Unless you're willing to pay the developers of the software, you kind of have to accept what they do to pay the bills.
Things i want to be a hobby: A racecar
Things I don't want to be a hobby: An actual car
Alot of the difficulty with Linux comes from basic computing concepts alot of people just don't have anymore. We stopped teaching it in schools, and now people don't know what a file system or directory is, or what permissions are. Alot of these core concepts are important to being able to use Linux, alongside other core concepts not needed by the general public like drivers and kernels. Once you have these concepts, the practical skills, like command line usage, become easier.
I have had many people reach out to me saying they want to try a Linux OS that "just works"
I set their expectation that "you have been using the same tool since you were a child, its going to take time to learn something new and you will make a few mistakes along the way."
If that doesnt deter them, they will likely get a net positive experience after the first few months.
Used Linux for over 6 years and made the switch back to Windows about 3 years ago. I didn't realize how miserable Linux was making me until I finally left it.
@@toastpoint I've had the reverse experience, I used linux for about 3 years, and every time I have to boot into windows for something I'm reminded of why I switched
@@toastpointWindows genuinely made me more miserable since Microsoft pushed out multiple updates years ago that would end up borking entire setups, and the older devices I used back then were choking with anything after Windows 7, but running an outdated system is risky as well. Linux is more stable and flexible, and I only had issues because of hardware tinkering on my end. Windows is good for the familiarity of things and that everything "just works" (including bad things, too), but Linux is best for those that *can* make use of it. I just wish Linux was more accessible.
@@Starlok007Same. Not to get overly neck-beardy, but some people just aren't made to use linux, and that's fine
Mint is the answer by the way. I hate the guy behind it, he thinks himself a Bill Gates, but it really does "just work".
Fun fact regarding Anti-Cheat: most anti-cheat actually works in WINE/Proton, but the devs have to allow it to run in WINE. They just don't want to because almost nobody hinges their buying decisions on whether it runs on Linux 😓
Which the market share of the OS (but mainly how many users are on the OS) shows exactly why devs and companies doesn't bothered to support them because no one wanted to support what they think is the minority of the OS users.
@@killertruth186They don't need to "support" them. Proton can already translate and run it just fine. All it takes to make games with anticheats like EAC work on linux is a SINGLE checkmark setting from their end which some developers infuriatingly refuse to do.
"We don't want to support an OS like 1% of people use"
Linux: "I'll do it myself. Also, now that figure doubled."
@@gplastic EAC-eos has proton support but that does not mean people should use it. there is a huge diff between a kernel mode ac and having mostly trivial checks in the proton sandbox. If something like rust was to enable it the amount of botting would be insane. just look at apex lmao
People keep blaming devs for not enabling Linux support, but let me tell you, as a former dev, it's NOT the devs fault - devs don't even own the code, nor do they control the direction - it's all in the hands of the publisher / game studio. As a dev, you can't just go and tick a box and bam, suddenly enable support for an ENTIRE NEW PLATFORM - that sort of stunt would get you fired. Decisions like that need to go thru a process where it'll need to be reviewed and approved first (often there's multiple levels of approvals) - and the higher ups or "the suits" as we call them, would never approve something like this. So this is a decision that needs to come from the studios themselves, it's out of the hands of developers who actually code the game. So please stop blaming devs for this, when it's really the fault of the studios (unless you're taking about indie games of course, where a dev is in full control - but of course, indie games would never use shitty anticheats in the first place).
Corrections for the downloading through Terminal part: It auto-downloads the latest version.
3:00 You can actually just drag and drop, kind of. Modern UEFI BIOSs don't really require any special partitions or anything to boot from a drive, it'll automatically detect bootable OS files. So what you do is you open up the ISO on your computer, then just drag and drop the files from the ISO to the flash drive.
Also I'd like to note that Linux Mint or Pop!_OS probably would've been a better choice for you. The creators of Ubuntu, Canonical, have a kind of sketchy past that has put off most of the Linux community. Linux Mint is basically Ubuntu, but without Canonical. Ubuntu definitely isn't a bad choice by any means, but something like Linux Mint would probably be just a little better.
Edit: Also you can have something similar to what SteamOS does where it makes the file system Read Only. They're called Immutable distros, two solid examples are Fedora Silverblue and Vanilla OS. They basically prevent apps as well as you from touching system files so that way nothing gets messed up. Apps are packaged in what's called a "Container" where the apps are all walled off from each other and the system. This is also called Sandboxing. Containers and Sandboxing is more or less the future of Linux, mainly spearheaded by stuff like Flatpak.
To get something akin to SteamOS instead of Fedora Silverblue, I would recommend Fedora Kinoite since SteamOS is running KDE instead of Gnome.
Was going to say, an immutable distro seems like a good option for people who aren't as used to Linux. They can be a bit frustrating if you want to break out of that pattern, though. Ubuntu isn't necessarily a bad option though, lots of guides and readmes are still written with it in mind. Distro-hopping can be fun though.
Note: windows needs something strange so the ritual may still be required
@@CathrineMacNiel I have understood exactly 0 words from that comment
@@CathrineMacNiel the closest distro to steam os is manjero kde
i officially endorse this, and agree with the fact that dealing with it can be a nightmare
i’ve been courting linux for 7 years, and have switched to using it full time for my music and dev work. ironically, DJing is the only reason i end up on windows, and it feels like handling manure every time
Welcome to the family :) It takes a little while to become "fluent" in Linux, much like with Windows or MacOS when you were a kid, but when you get there you never want to go back!
Windows and Linux will both waste equal amounts of your time; for Linux it's going through forums and wikis not getting an answer to your question, and for Windows it's dodging ads and waiting for the desktop to load.
You seems to write from Windows XP using ISP router that doesn't allow changing DNS.
From personal experiance : Windows loves me and Linux hates me.
I spend 3 days last christmas configuring PC for my mum to realize that wifi drivers are not existing (literally 404 in only repo any forum was poiting at) and on basic one i get 1/8 of bandwidth available, but it turned out to be not an issue when i discovered that browsers can do at best 480p at streaming services, despite i have DRM and all of that installed.
For compression windows installation and all software takes 3h at best and then i can forgot about it for next 10 years (or whenever win 10 was released.)
"You can't just drag and drop it on there."
Ventoy users are probably fuming right now
I mean tbf I didn't learn about Ventoy until much later on in my time with Linux.
It's sad because there are probably quite a few people actually upset because somebody (who makes no claim to be an authority) didn't know about some obscure tool.
Jimmies were rustled. I hope they recover.
what is Ventoy?
@@ultimateidiot2344 A thing you can put on a USB/DVD to easily manage installers or recovery environments. After installing it, you put 1 or more ISO images of operating systems onto the new empty drive that shows up. When you boot into the USB/DVD, it shows a menu with the ISO(s) you loaded onto it. You can select one, and it will boot into it as if you manually copied over the ISO! Didn't mean to write a paragraph, but hope this helps one day!
@@Gestersmek Same, though I started using Linux just 2 years ago.
Honestly dealing with the teething issues of Linux is better than dealing with corporate bullshit
your username is gymcelsocialism. You are the type of guy to use linux
@@arandomperson8407 i hate to agree with you on this one
It's teething for how long now?
@@arandomperson8407 he's not wrong tho
@@michal7x7 Teething issues are more about how long it takes for you to get used to using Linux.
2:54 by the way you can setup Ventoy once on your USB drive and drag and drop multiple iso's to the drive and just use it without having to burn the iso each time :)
I tried to use Ventoy soms time ago but it kept corrupting the iso, don't remember if it was Fedora or Nobara, but I redownloaded the iso 3 or 4 times, redownloaded, installed and wiped Ventoy a few times but it didn't work, then went back to Balena Etcher and was able to install the distro
@@yorimituTry giving it another crack mightve had a bad patch version. I've had a lot of luck with it. You may also need to check if it's the MBR or UEFI version but this was awhile ago you may not have to bother with the UEFI issues
@@CallumCarmicheal yeah maybe I'll try again one day, for now I'm comfortable with Fedora and have no plans on changing distro
idk, I tried ventoy exactly two times: with EndeavourOS and NixOS. I had 0% success rate with ventoy - it just didn't work for my distoros (apparently it was/is a known issue). Dunno why people keep recommending a tool that just doesn't work with some fairly popular distoros sometimes - for me it only ever lead to frustration.
W H A T
Been booting ISOs from USBs for ages and had no clue this existed. You have blown my mind
I have been meaning to check out the channel since the LTT collaboration and for whatever reason the youtube algorithm finally did something useful. Just spent 3 days diving into the archives and I think I am a convert. Fantastic chaotic energy.
welcome :)
First Linus, now Linux
What will be next for Wade? Who knows
Linen
@@ZizZap4linen is pretty comfortable
Wine or WINE
@@Shadowofthedark847 Wine or cheese?
my guess is windows lol.
The average Linux experience:
"It's amazing...
...until it isn't."
Written from the Steam Deck which has been repurposed as an actual Desktop PC.
this is also being viewed from the Steam Deck which has been repurposed as an actual Desktop PC
@@Ensign_games same here. From Hyprland, on vanilla Arch, because I dont't like immutable steamos.
@@MANTISxB typical Linux user everyone.
@@jonnyvelocitythey aren't wrong, though. Once you learn software, it becomes easy to use that software.
This was exactly my experience with Arch. Installing it was great, and getting everything set up with a DE and whatnot was fun, and then suddenly I was abandoned by the Arch Wiki as I wanted to do things that were outside of its scope. Instant misery from then on.
9:38 mate don't use those adata drives please they have ridiculously high rate of failure you will either need to run in like raid 2 atleast and constantly have atleast one extra ready to go if you don't run in raid you will lose your data and have to pay for data recovery which is expensive
Also confirmed by the greatest technician that's ever lived
@@nidhisingla7880 Yes sir 😂
@@nidhisingla7880 Small raccoon-like hands
Gotta keep that anime catgirl collection safe!!!
i have an ADATA USB which is very old. a C906 to be exact, 8 gigabytes. enough for the average ISO
the problem with nvidia drivers is mostly because nvidia wasn't open-sourcing them. from what ive heard they've finally caved and said they're going to/have already so in the future there should be less issues like that
I've been using Linux for nearly 5 years now. I've distrohopped everything except Gentoo. And it has been both incredibly joyful AND frustrating at the same time.
I will say I started with Linux Mint, I came back to it, and I'm never leaving again. It's my digital home. It's a zero-drama best friend you can always count on.
LoL, I'm the opposite, I've only been in Gentoo. Less than a year so far. That being said, it's normal for people to skip Gentoo, and I can't just randomly recommend it to people. It's for those who are or want to be more involved with the OS, how it functions and how it can be tuned and customized. Many people just want things to work and for that Gentoo is overkill.
@@Winnetou17bruh you started with gentoo!?!?
Mint is extremely nice. I'm daily driving Pop OS rn, just because I love the DE, but Mint and sometimes Debian w/ Cinnamon were my DDs for ages
Mint is awesome. It's my default recommendation. Personally I like rolling release and the AUR so I landed on Manjaro, but Cinnamon is my go-to desktop. Super stable, looks great, and in general it just gets out of the way and lets you get stuff done.
@@masternerd64 I did, but I knew what I was getting into. This is my first (and only) bare metal install, but I did encounter Linux at work, I did use WSL in Windows, I did installed Arch in Virtualbox several years ago and Gentoo last year.
And I knew about Gentoo for more than 2 years and it was love at first sight. I just took my time until I did it, which did help in being prepared for it. Frankly, I think it was a big of luck too, for example I installed it at about the same time when pipewire got ready. So I kinda didn't had to learn about pulseaudio and alsa and jack... well, I still learned a bit, but I think that initially I was lucky to not have to.
I think it helps a bit that I'm also simply using dwm, instead of Gnome or KDE. The hardest thing at the install was making the wifi work and then making the VPN work, while trying to be minimalistic in the applications installed (for VPN I had to give up and install NetworkManager, I wasn't able to configure it on my own)
As a Windows fanboy who tried Linux @4:50 You open whatever app store you have and you literally search VLC, no need for terminal.
Edit: i was describing how to download VLC in Ubuntu without terminal.
That's the ultimate power of WIndows: convenience.
You can do that on linux too. I did that on linux mint.
@@TheLazyGamerAU if you watch any of the Linux content creators reacting to ‘I switched to Linux’ videos, they literally cringe at anyone who searches Google for an app to install. Like you say, search your distro’s package manager for programs as they have been compiled and tested for your distribution, by your distribution.
Flatpacks
@@kuplung22you can always switch off auto updates in windows to avoid the sudden updates m8, also mac os or Linux cant be compared with windows, of you hate the ADs and bloatware you can get the windows lite version that has all the important things except adware and additional softwares, and of you want it even more lightweight you can use windows DeBloat tools that literally removes all softwares and processes that you dont require, Windows is still the Kind 👑...
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Ok sir pod
based youve finally woken up neo
8:27 Easy Anti Cheat, which is shown here, DOES work on Linux. Most anti cheats that don't work on Linux are kernel level, but Easy Anti Cheat does work, so games utilizing it can easily be played on Linux! Fortnite can't be for some reason tho
Nah, EAC doesn't work on Linux. Some games that use EAC will let Linux play the game anyway, but this is accomplished by basically turning EAC off. When you play Total War on Linux, EAC doesn't interact with the Linux kernel, meaning a kernel modified to cheat in Warhammer 3 can enable cheats. Meaning that Creative Assembly put EAC in their game and then voluntarily turned it off if you play on Linux. Most developers won't do that, they put EAC in their game for it to be enabled.
@@motmontheinternet EAC is supported, though. But game devs need to enable Linux support.
WOULD U GIVE US "LINUX FOR DINGUSES" VIDEOS AS YOU LEARN? 🙏 It would help so many people (hi) who wanna do what you're doing but are also overwhelmed by the curve! 💞
8:30 "Kind of like malware" (it is basically malware, it should not need that much privilages)
*Linux actually allows MORE of this, Windows just has more support from those computers
The reason it "needs" the privilege is to read your RAM and registry. It amazes me people allow that... HUGE vulnerability.
Malware means it's doing something "bad" or against the will of the owner. Anti-cheat doesn't check either of those boxes.
Words do have meaning, after all.
@@tim3172 except for the times that they did.... like all the ones that oopsy bricked people's computers. it has happened numerous times.
@@tim3172 Well I don't want my video games to have kernel level access to everything on my system, (Heck, I don't want nearly any program having those privileges) so I would classify it as malware by your definition. Most of the games that don't work on Linux are like this and because of that most games that don't work on Linux are games I actively don't want on my computer. I have only one or two games in my library that I actually like that don't work, but funny enough, I actually have about the same number of games that ONLY work on Linux due to them being old and Proton having better compatibility with them compared to modern Windows.
Sadly theres now 10k odd comments so you'll never see this, however.
So I'm one of "those types", I'm a professional software engineer who grew up with command line only computers too.
But there is one very big advantage to command line/terminal interfaces, not just Linux but windows, osx, VM, everything.
How Tos. Graphical vs Terminal
GUIs vary from machine to machine, different OS patches, different application versions, buttons can be in slightly different places.
This can make following a graphical how to tricky, sometimes impossible and always dangerous.
But a terminal how to?
Copy, paste, press enter.
Guaranteed to follow the guide precisely.
It's great stuff and i always look for a terminal guide for anything I'm learning
The insult “you look like a Linux user,” in now a factual statement
You mean, it is no longer an insult, but a factual statement? xD
thanks for the compliment.
Fun fact: macOS has the same terminal like linux. And many linux apps are available on macOS. It simplifies development significantly
macos evolved from BSD which evolved from Unix. Linux doesn't directly relate to Unix directly, but it is considered a Unix-like OS
They are both Unix "based". So in a sense, yes but actually no.
"Basic" commands work on both and for what Wade was talking about (browsing directories and files) sure it's all the same, however, a lot of tools are not compatible with one or the other.
A lot of times you can find the source code on GitHub and build it yourself though, unless you think that is for smelly nerds (I hope someone gets this).
they should come up with a common solution so all games and softwares run on all operating systems and cpu architectures
@@DIYElectronicCircuits blame msdos and windows, especially DirectX for games. Wine does the job well by redirecting winapi calls to linux libraries.
my main problem is that most linux devs don't get that for mass adoption everything needs to be intuitive and easy to do, I shouldn't need to open the terminal to uninstall a program, it should be in the right click memu in the program manager. can you tell im slightly salty. doesn't mean I won't keep using it
If the OS you're using even has a program manager. That shit is usually terminal-only too.
Have you tried Mint?
Many Linux devs understand this. But Linux is not a single company. It's a giant ecosystem with a lot of things happening in many different directions. When you install Linux you are really installing thousands of independent programs that speak to each other.
Like the Desktop Environment is separate to the Window Manager, which could be running two fully different systems completely, one of which was originally written ostensibly in a few weeks by a dev in 1980s (X11) for a university project, that can technically run screens over networks, and coordinates input from like 6 different processes. One might say, let's fix this crazy old thing, and a movement starts (Wayland). But everything is built for all the existing one, so now you have to port a ton of stuff. And now driver makers like Nvidia have to worry about two standards, and they are notoriously bad with one in the first place.
The main money going into Linux is mostly for servers and enterprise - sadly the consumer desktop space always lagged behind, a ton of work was soley being done by people in their spare time desperately trying to get hardware manufacturers's drivers to work. Valve heading Vulkan and Proton injected a gigantic stimpack into the ecosystem though.
System76's PopOs are who I'm rooting for in this space for making something usable for the average user, they actually sell a hardware product. But they ruffled a lot of feathers
@@GeneralNicklesare you on arch? Mine (Fedora) and most other distros nowadays ship with gnome software or kde discover that does exactly this and lets you do whatever you want with apps without touching the terminal
WTF is a program manager?
You're almost following the 3-2-1 backup strategy perfectly! 3 backups, 2 onsite, 1 offsite. 2 Backups works plenty tho! Glad to see you're having a blast with Linux, Wade!