So basically it's a Wacom drawing tablet with a screen. Drawing tablets also use magnetic sensors to track the pen and will not respond to hands (which is good!).
It's a bit more than that! This one has a computer built into it, so it's more of a Surface. I wonder if the pen has any pressure sensitivity, usually wacoms allow you to do stuff with that, like changing opacity or brush size. James can try downloading wacom drivers to try that in something more powerful than paint, like gimp; and the macro keys - I bet they are also programmable with tablet drivers, as it's usually the case with wacom products.
@@crabofchaos7881 I'd wager it's quite possible old wacom drivers would give this all the functionality of an old wacom tablet. Unless they have something super proprietary going on, it's probably just the classic wacom hardware in a laptop-format PC
@@thepinkplushie That's exactly what it is, older Thinkpad tablet models (like the X60T from 2006) were basically this, just with built-in keyboards and mice
Nurses would use these. The docking station would sync it with the station computers. We used them in the mid 2000’s and it saved us much time. Now we cart an entire computer with us and although easy to use, they’re big and bulky.
I wonder if they charged extra to have that hole cut in it to "add" USB. Of course, the customer couldn't mod it, because then it wouldn't meet certification standards and would be a legal liability.
I'd watch out putting a red strip along the bottom of the thumbnail cause I saw this video multiple times on my feed and just assumed I'd already watched it.
I work in Health care IT, It's so amazing to see one come back out like this. We normally destroy the drives on each device and specially recycle each device. So cool.
Since I don't see anyone else mentioning it. I'm betting the usb port was added so it could be troubleshot easier, but covered by the case to prevent patients from being able to plug anything into it if they were handed it to fill in a form for example. Makes sense for the amount of information security that the healthcare system needs.
That wouldn't meet requirement for any respectable security protocols. Especially when you can limit the USB port access via a Group Policy. Had to do this for certain departments that had to use cameras to document injury and recoveries and upload into the EMR system. We could lock out the USB ports to only HID devices and specific Vendor/device IDs for all machines assigned to such departments. In this case, since it entirely internal, is probably for loading the OS and factory configuration use.
It was probably an upcharge model to have it uncovered. Its cheaper to install it on all the boards and just have two different plastics :) also the old models of these did have usbs and the ram slot was under a removable panel
@@slightlyevolved Yeah and if there is an unpatched EFI/BIOS vulnerability, you need to junk all devices, because you have no time to wait for the update to arrive. This is not a consumer device simply. It does NOT require user accessible expansion ports, so it has none. Simple as.
@@NotMuchOfACommenter XD,yea it does but in my case as someone from scotland my definition or way of saying that would be "Patrolling the highlands almost makes you wish for a nuclear summer"
3:20 That's so crazy to hear because to me it's just a mundane object! I work as a digital artist, and this tablet is pretty much how my drawing tablet works! Well minus a lot of features, I'm positve this one doesn't have pressure sensitivity, for one :>
I switched to PC about 4 years ago, and while I love it and I have no reason to return to consoles, boy do I miss the reliability. You boot up your dedicated game box, select the game, and it just fucking works
Minor detail, but since you asked: "VSync" is short for "vertical sync." Essentially, the monitor takes a certain amount of time to refresh the screen, and the computer takes a certain amount of time to have a new frame ready for the monitor to display. Usually, we refer to the inverse of these values - Hz and FPS, respectively. However, these two timings are not implicitly tied to each other - the computer may be able to generate a new frame significantly faster than the monitor is able to draw it to the screen. If the computer tries to tell the monitor to draw the new frame before it's finished drawing the old one, you can end up with "screen tearing," where a portion of the screen is the old frame and a portion of the screen is the new frame. VSync forces the computer to wait for the monitor to finish painting the old frame before sending it a new one to draw, preventing screen tearing. Additionally, VSync (depending on how it's implemented) can improve the overall responsiveness of the system by allowing it to go do other things (e.g. load the game's Wiki) while it's waiting for the monitor to finish drawing. However, a lot of games (especially prior to the release of DirectX 12 and Vulkan ca. 2016) only read user input while they're preparing the next frame, so turning on VSync can have a huge impact on the _feel_ of the game for systems capable of generating multiple frames per screen refresh. (This is why it's common for games like Rainbow Six: Siege to run at such high framerates - the game is able to accept inputs quicker, reducing input lag.) Because all VSync does is change how the system allocates its time, it generally doesn't directly impact performance. The major exception to this rule is if the computer is struggling to reach the monitor's refresh rate. If the computer takes longer to generate a frame than it takes for the monitor to refresh, the monitor will simply redraw the same frame until the computer has a new frame ready. As a result, the computer has to wait however many refreshes it takes to generate the frame, plus one more for the monitor to be ready to receive it. The net result is that if the computer drops below the refresh rate _at all,_ it will become locked to _half_ the refresh rate. In this scenario, turning VSync off allows the computer to immediately begin processing the next frame once the previous one is done, allowing it to get closer to the refresh rate (at the cost of potential screen tearing).
ADDENDUM: Nowadays, screen tearing is almost never an issue. The first game systems and computers were highly prone to it, because their design meant that the data the central processor was manipulating was also actively being painted by the monitor/TV; this was worked around by having a period where the monitor was _technically_ outputting pixels, but those pixels were outside the bounds of the visible screen, giving the computer a limited amount of time to prepare the next image (look up VBlank and HBlank for more info). Once hardware was powerful enough, the concept of "double buffering" was introduced, which is more or less what I described in the main comment - the computer has a "canvas" it's building and the monitor has a "canvas" it's drawing, and when both are ready they swap canvases, with the monitor drawing the newly prepared canvas and the computer building a new frame over the old one. Prior to this, when the monitor was actively drawing pixels to the screen, the CPU was limited to only performing operations that didn't affect the screen. Depending on the architecture, this included not just the actual visual data itself (such as textures), but things like an object's position in the game world (as that would be reflected in its position on-screen). Because of this, while the frame was being drawn to the screen, there wasn't much the CPU could do other than load things into memory and maybe process audio. Double-buffering allowed the CPU to do whatever it wanted, whenever it wanted, without fear that it would mess up the image the monitor was drawing. However, for reasons I have been unable to discern, the convention continued to be that the system would render a frame, then wait for the monitor to accept it. While this setup prevented screen tearing, it had the unfortunate side-effect that the game logic would only be run once per frame. If you wanted to run the game logic any faster, you had to accept the possibility of screen tearing. This continued to be the status-quo... until triple-buffering came along. The concept is fairly simple: let the computer render as many frames as it wants, and simply store the most recently completed frame. That way, the monitor can simply accept the new frame whenever it's ready, preventing tearing caused by flipping the buffer mid-draw, while also preventing artifacts caused by the monitor drawing a frame that hasn't finished being rendered. Since the computer no longer has to wait for the monitor to be ready to accept its finished frame, the computer is free to run the core game logic as fast as possible, reducing input, physics, and even network latency ("latency" in this case referring to how long it takes the system to process data once it's received - upwards of 16ms at 60 updates per second, so not insignificant even for networking). Although triple-buffering is still widely in use today, the latency problems caused by the system waiting for the monitor to accept a frame have been reduced further by the introduction of DirectX 12 and Vulkan, which (unlike their predecessors) allow for a fully multi-threaded environment. With multithreading, the game can render a frame (and wait for the monitor if necessary) while _also_ processing user input _and_ performing physics calculations, and none of those operations are dependent on each other - the physics thread may be able to complete multiple times while the render thread generates a frame (which, coincidentally, re-introduces the problem of changes to non-graphical things having an effect on graphics, since the rendering thread might be using data in the physics thread to inform how it should render things - thread safety is another beast entirely and is best left as an exercise for the reader.).
@@Arakus99 To my understanding, they're relatively straightforward. Rather than having a set refresh rate, the monitor is able to operate at a range of speeds, which it negotiates with the GPU. If I had to guess (and Wikipedia seems to back this up), essentially the monitor paints the frame to the screen at a constant rate, but can delay when it starts drawing the next frame until the GPU is ready.That is, the monitor draws the image at the highest speed possible (120hz, for example), but instead of immediately drawing the next frame (or redrawing the same frame if a new one isn't available) it can "hold" the last image on the screen until a new frame is sent. This helps reduce screen tearing the same way VSync does while improving latency by allowing the game to run at a higher framerate. More importantly, it helps avoid stuttering caused when the GPU is unable to provide the framerate the monitor is expecting. Essentially, a fixed 60Hz monitor will always start a new draw once every 1/60th of a second (around 16.7 milliseconds). With VSync enabled, if your framerate drops even slightly below that speed, it gets locked to _half_ the speed - 30FPS in this case. Disabling VSync allows the GPU to send as many frames as it can, but now there's a timing mismatch. If the GPU is running at exactly 59FPS, then for 58 of the 60 refreshes, the monitor will have a new image which is on the screen for exactly 16.7ms, but for the last two refreshes, there's only one frame available, so it will need to be drawn twice, totalling 33.3ms. This inconsistency - some, but not all, frames being redrawn multiple times - is noticed by the user as stutter. With GSync and Freesync, rather than always drawing at 60Hz and redrawing frames to make up the difference, the monitor is able to slow down to match the framerate so each frame is on the screen for the same amount of time.
tldr. vsync makes the game wait until the monitor is ready before showing the frame. It will start working on the next frame while waiting, but by the time the next frame is presented, it will be stale, so you get input lag. Adaptive refresh rate monitors are more flexible with timing, and so games can try and match your monitors frame rate but there isn't a strict deadline
The Samsung S Pen also works using the EM resonance. The onboard battery is only for the bluetooth remote control functions, while the cursor and the air commands don't use battery at all. In fact, the Galaxy S5 had air commands even without an S-Pen. It used EM Resonance just to know where your finger was hovering.
10:32 That connector is called Micro SATA. It's the same protocol as normal SATA, but it's intended for 1.8" SSDs, which were briefly a thing in the late 00s.
They were used in things like iPods and other tablet PCs I believe, things that were to small to use normal data, but needed more storage than flash could provide at a decent price.
The pen technology is what modern drawing tablets and now Samsung/Apple tablets use too. Being able to hover the cursor over the screen gives you feedback the same way that moving around a mouse does. It's basically a requirement for screenless drawing tablets.
I recognized the stylus immediately, I have the same one in black around here from an old non-healthcare Motion Computing tablet. It's Wacom Graphire-2 technology and is very, very common, the same stylus pen would work my ancient IBM 80486 monochrome tablet, my Fujitsu Stylistic, and several different Samsung phones and tablets. Doesn't work with my new Motorola, though.
For some reason, your comment had "cursor" in blue text with a blue magnifying glass next to it. I clicked on it, just searched RUclips for "cursor". Came back to the comment and the link was gone lol
@@LanceThumping if you could hook it up to a machine actually capable of running photoshop/art program of choice well, it'd almost certainly work fine. Wacom's design is pretty fool-proof (and age proof beyond just general electronic corrosion and decay). I have a tablet from ~2010 that only gave up the ghost this year. Still works completely fine except the pressure sensor finally gave out. The real problem here is that this is a PC in and of itself, so I'm not confident there would be any easy solution to hook it up to another PC as a peripheral. But using it itself in a very old version of photoshop would be worse than just buying a decade old tablet off a second hand market, which you can get for like 50 bucks or less.
I also noticed the pen acted exactly like Wacom's and did a quick a search. Apparently Wacom makes tablets for multiple industries, including healthcare. So this is a bonafide Wacom device, neat!
To be fair, they buy extras for backups as well. When you’re in a hospital and one of these breaks in the middle of a surgery or something, you probably don’t want to wait 3 business days to get a replacement.
15:25 the reason it's such a bad score without maxing out any of the components is because they're most likely bottlenecked by memory bandwidth in some way, most likely VRAM
Not just vram, intel graphics is not optimized for complex 3D calculations, they're mostly just meant for light 2D stuff, video decoding, and very simple 3D stuff. You could give that thing 4gb of VRAM and it just wouldn't go faster in any meaningful way.
When you explained the way the computer detects the stylus connects through electromagnetic resonance instead of capacitive touch, my brain went: huh, that's how Wacom drawing tablets work. So I feel somewhat validated when I saw 'Wacom Digitizer' when you opened up the device. It does make me wonder if Wacom has a complete control over that technology and patent. I was also hopeful when I saw the mini PCI and PCIE slot. Because I am sure you can plug in a graphics card with a chain of adapters using that! I wonder how much the CPU would be bottlenecking the performance. I know a certain Bringus Studios youtuber who would love to see this computer. He has a track record of gaming on random ass devices. And also, that usb port cut is so clean. That was an amazing job.
The interface reminds me of my drawing tablet, it's just a screen with a wireless/batteryless pen but this thing is awesome Also a few minutes in I thought this guy sounds like dank pods without the dank and way more chill Definitely subbing, hope to see more content
@@mromuttin the UK. we still use smart cards for the nhs, but eventually they want to move to something more modern. I know a little bit about what Australia use, as they share a lot of the same products we do.
3:20 its funny to see you not knowing about these features because tey are still present in modern win11 for drawing tablets and the microsoft slim pens which have the exact same way of navigation (down to the swipe gesture in browsers)
Earlier this year I worked at in a secondhand computer warehouse and my department was basically the "either you can figure something out about these electronics or they go to ewaste" and I had a couple of these come across my desk. We couldnt sell them for whatever reason. They were a newer model than this one though (windows 8!). We ripped the back off of it, stuffed it with the biggest SSD we could spare and a 16GB laptop ram and kept it in the corner of our office as an emulator box
10:22 It may a warm-swap feature (i.e. you could swap the battery without restarting, but you can't just yank it). At a previous job, we had these android handheld things for scanning tags, and in the power menu was an option labeled "Swap Battery" you were then instructed to wait until the red status light went out (as I understand, it charged a supercap and powered down all but the RAM and slowed the CPU), then you had 1 minute from when you pulled the battery out to put another in, and you'd hold the power button to resume. It's possible there's an app somewhere to trigger that. The company that made those advertised a healthcare variant that did let you just yank the battery without warning, so the other possibility is that internal battery is just sad.
So THAT'S how those screens work! My XPpen drawing tablet works exactly the same! The little diamond instead of a normal mouse cursor means it's missing a specific driver.
@@hellohaveagoodday Oh yeah, whenever you see the little diamond cursor, just reinstall it. Takes about 2 minutes and all works perfect again. I've got the installer pinned to my start screen now so I don't have to go look for it anymore. And don't worry, reinstalling does not get rid of your screen calibrations, it just resets the express buttons, but that's an easy fix too.
Magnets are in fact magic. My ancient Wacom has the same pen tech; no battery, can detect the position before touching and has buttons. Not sure when it was invented, but my Wacom is about 23 years old.
I have a very clear picture in my mind how it may look like. It's thick, grey, has a small surface to overall size ratio and it's riddled with so many marks from the stylus that it could as well be a death metal band logo!
I've got a huion kamvas 13 and it's orders of magnitude better than using the dreaded touchscreen styus with the squishy tip for drawing. Not a super high-res screen but because you're already using it with a computer, just look at your monitor when you need to. The fact the pen doesn't need any stupid batteries is wonderful.
@@oxymoron02 I dont think its he's actually surprised but more he's explaining it to us by way of him "learning" how it works, think those old shows they used to play for us in school.
I swear, things like this were made during a time period when manufacturers would produce 2 items that were similar, but one with less options than the other, but instead of ACTUALLY making 2 different items, they'd just introduce software to stop it from utilizing the full item, OR they'd make a separate case to cover up any extra ports or anything that it shouldn't have. I remember there was a GPU around this time that they made, that they just took a more expensive version, and tossed some software on it that limited it's speed and utilization to a lower level.
Didn't pay attention to the accent until a minute into the video and only then noticed that it's THE James himself! Glad to be here. Such a cool device, too.
Hey, thanks for the Legacy Update shoutout! Love when it can help demonstrate an old machine like it's still new. By the way, check out the download center section, I think the copy of DirectX there doesn't have that Bing junk going on. Something has to be wrong with the machine or Project64, because I've absolutely run it on a potato Pentium 4 with GeForce 420 (I only remember this because it's the funny number). That i3 should be able to run it super well with most of the settings cranked up. (p.s. I'm in Adelaide, if you ever want to catch up 😉)
I worked in Healthcare IT for a while several years back and these things were literally my life for several months! Fixing them and keeping them going prior to being gradually phased out, became my main responsibility! The models we had were optioned with the barcode scanner (but we're never really used) and came with a single USB port. The docking stations were pretty cool and they had their own little keyboards.
When it comes to screws, I came up with a similar solution in sorting them by where they came out from, but I use cardboard cut to size & screw them into that so they cant move around. Its a whole heap of help in being able to put a project aside.
A bunch of my school’s old Promethean boards had tech just like this. Batteryless pen, hover to move, tap to click, and button to right click. Wasn’t an lcd though, it was a projected overlay (as in rgb projector from epson) and you would need to calibrate the pen everyday so that it worked. This was cerca 2013 at least although they seemed old even then.
Once, I made a stylus for an Ipad out of an old pen, tinfoil, and a Q-tip. It worked pretty well, too. I think it was the same electromagnetic principle as this stylus.
Holy crap! I bought one of these for my mother and girlfriend! They're durable as hell and the docking station worked great. Imagine my surprise I see it show up here. At the time, they made great art tablets, and it even came with a free build in laptop. There's also an NFC reader/writer, barcode scanner, and I think it may have Bluetooth? I mostly got it for the Wacom tablet features.
I had one of the xp ones of these a long time ago for drawing too! Also the docks for these things are great, you can tilt them however you like and it holds its position as well as all the added ports and you keep the charger plugged into it so you can just pick up the tablet and go anytime then redock later. Maybe I should get a new one :) I kind of miss mine now.
@@MaydupNem It is. I repaired 2 of them to functioning order and gave one to each. However, there were slight differences between them, namely that USB port that the video showed: it was only present on one of them.
I had to support these models at the hospital i worked IT for. By support i mean around 2012ish? they purchased them and deployed them to two nursing pods and around 10 at our IT outpost for testing and promptly did nothing with them and they went unused until we ewasted them around 2016.
I shoulve grabbed these when our plant got rid of them, we used them as mobile processing control screens for our dairy plant. Ours even had the RF, IR beam, WiFi, and Bluetooth connectivity options. It was interesting seeing 20years of wireless connectivity mashed into one unit.
I remember a HP laptop that used to twist its screen to close like a modern tablet, total nugget and had the same pen thing with the right click button. It wasnt all that great but it was a fun novelty
I think i know what you’re talking about! It was pretty chunky but i loved drawing on it as a child. It was sooo heavy, but i remember looking at it and thinking it was so cool, haha!
I used to be an arrival agent for an airline and we had these for any possible information about connection flights etc. These things barley worked, but looked modern back then
3:33 a lot of basic Wacom and the pen built into the galaxy note/ultra series phones use this as well. Sometimes they'll have batteries to power additional features or Bluetooth connectivity but the actual writing is battery free.
Yay for finding the hidden USB port! There are a few docking stations on eBay, they are listed as mc-f5, but they work on this model. They have extra USB, a VGA port and networking.
I have a Fujitsu lifebook from 2010ish with a similar screen-powered pen system, but it has capacitive touch as well. Also has hot-swap drive bay that you can drop a second battery into in place of a drive.
When the PS3 was being worked on Sony released a new controller to replace the DualShock and it's a sight to behold. l'd like to see James turn a DualShock 3 into the boomerang controller that was ultimately canned because i heard that it was actually super comfortable.
3:45 this is how most higher quality drawing tablets work, which is nice since you dont have to worry about batteries after a lot of use. Nibs, however, god Ive gone through so many nibs.
Imagine being in the hospital for something serious, your doctor comes in and starts asking you questions about what your symptoms or injuries are, and then you find out your doctor was playing Donkey Kong Country this whole time
So basically it's a Wacom drawing tablet with a screen. Drawing tablets also use magnetic sensors to track the pen and will not respond to hands (which is good!).
It's a bit more than that! This one has a computer built into it, so it's more of a Surface. I wonder if the pen has any pressure sensitivity, usually wacoms allow you to do stuff with that, like changing opacity or brush size. James can try downloading wacom drivers to try that in something more powerful than paint, like gimp; and the macro keys - I bet they are also programmable with tablet drivers, as it's usually the case with wacom products.
@@crabofchaos7881 I'd wager it's quite possible old wacom drivers would give this all the functionality of an old wacom tablet. Unless they have something super proprietary going on, it's probably just the classic wacom hardware in a laptop-format PC
@@thepinkplushie That's exactly what it is, older Thinkpad tablet models (like the X60T from 2006) were basically this, just with built-in keyboards and mice
wacom logo visible at 11:39
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Nurses would use these. The docking station would sync it with the station computers. We used them in the mid 2000’s and it saved us much time. Now we cart an entire computer with us and although easy to use, they’re big and bulky.
Holy shit that USB hole was a GORGEOUS cut.
I wonder if they charged extra to have that hole cut in it to "add" USB. Of course, the customer couldn't mod it, because then it wouldn't meet certification standards and would be a legal liability.
it almost looks factory
@@CrashFan03 exactly like factory
Put linux on it
James is the epitome of "I _can_ do it properly, but I don't _have to_ " lol
I'd watch out putting a red strip along the bottom of the thumbnail cause I saw this video multiple times on my feed and just assumed I'd already watched it.
Ahaha I never thought of that!
I thought the same as well 😅
Yeah I was like "I don't remember watching this".
@@Games_for_James pro tip bro whenever you benvhmark some cpu use throttlestop to lock cpu at its boost frequency
@@w花bsame 😅 I did come across a new channel though, so that’s cool.
It's amazing how much James sounded like Wade when he was furious at Bing Bar.
That's what I was gonna say. Seems like wade is slowly corrupting him lmao
@@bigbry1994ok
Who the heck is wade
deserved
@hypnotised-clover Dankpods. Him and James do car videos on Garbage Time. Awesome stuff.
I work in Health care IT, It's so amazing to see one come back out like this. We normally destroy the drives on each device and specially recycle each device. So cool.
Since I don't see anyone else mentioning it. I'm betting the usb port was added so it could be troubleshot easier, but covered by the case to prevent patients from being able to plug anything into it if they were handed it to fill in a form for example. Makes sense for the amount of information security that the healthcare system needs.
That wouldn't meet requirement for any respectable security protocols. Especially when you can limit the USB port access via a Group Policy. Had to do this for certain departments that had to use cameras to document injury and recoveries and upload into the EMR system. We could lock out the USB ports to only HID devices and specific Vendor/device IDs for all machines assigned to such departments.
In this case, since it entirely internal, is probably for loading the OS and factory configuration use.
It was probably an upcharge model to have it uncovered. Its cheaper to install it on all the boards and just have two different plastics :) also the old models of these did have usbs and the ram slot was under a removable panel
@@mromutt Just like a lot of vehicles are already wired for premium features, they just don't give you the hardware for non-uppacked models.
@@slightlyevolved Yeah and if there is an unpatched EFI/BIOS vulnerability, you need to junk all devices, because you have no time to wait for the update to arrive. This is not a consumer device simply. It does NOT require user accessible expansion ports, so it has none. Simple as.
Psychiatrist: "RED DANKPODS ISNT REAL, RED DANKPODS CANT HURT YOU"
Red Dankpods:
My thoughts exactly - they must be brothers lol
@@tolonikpupu2053 they're not, they're friends
You can pry my tablet from my cold, dead hands! Wait...
He already did
I thought this was a fallout new vegas reference for a second
That’s crazy
@@Leylandcars123Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
@@NotMuchOfACommenter XD,yea it does but in my case as someone from scotland my definition or way of saying that would be "Patrolling the highlands almost makes you wish for a nuclear summer"
The hidden USB port was one of the most stunning plot twists I've ever seen in a tech video
The hand injury collection is coming along nicely I see.
Sometimes the angle grinder grinds back
Mr. Dank keeps james busy on garbage time
Did he lose the tip of the finger on the left?...
Goober injuries
Typical mechanic tbh
3:20 That's so crazy to hear because to me it's just a mundane object! I work as a digital artist, and this tablet is pretty much how my drawing tablet works! Well minus a lot of features, I'm positve this one doesn't have pressure sensitivity, for one :>
It actually does have pressure sensitivity, mspaint just doesn’t support it
It basically is a drawing tablet. You can even see that the digitizer is made by wacom in one shot.
i have one of these. i have alias sketchbook pro in it. yes, it does have pressure sensitivity
@@Games_for_James get yourself Gimp and try drawing something on it!
@@Games_for_James need me one of these as my first drawing tablet fr
That USB hole looks OEM. For not taking any measurements you did pretty damn well.
"Why is it so slow if it's not maxing out all of the numbers [in GTA IV]?"
It's Grand Theft Auto IV on PC, James.
I reinstalled GTA IV and did the benchmark. On my ryzen 7 5825u laptop, 32 gb of ram and vega igpu, i couldn't even crack 60 fps at 1080p. (no DXVK)
@@abhimaanmayadam5713 All my PCs have different specs but run the game the exact same, like doo doo.
@@CuteSkyler Ive had 5 different pcs in my entire time playing gta iv, 4/5 ran exactly the same. The last one ran like the i3 tablet.
I switched to PC about 4 years ago, and while I love it and I have no reason to return to consoles, boy do I miss the reliability. You boot up your dedicated game box, select the game, and it just fucking works
@@roachdoggjr111 I can guarantee you, GTA IV works so much better on consoles.
That USB cut was CLEAN
You mean.. 𝓒𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓷 ?
No kidding. You’d think it was already there to begin with.
Fr, I was a bit disappointed, there was like 0 jank
@@starbound03 James is secretly a factory robot
Minor detail, but since you asked:
"VSync" is short for "vertical sync." Essentially, the monitor takes a certain amount of time to refresh the screen, and the computer takes a certain amount of time to have a new frame ready for the monitor to display. Usually, we refer to the inverse of these values - Hz and FPS, respectively. However, these two timings are not implicitly tied to each other - the computer may be able to generate a new frame significantly faster than the monitor is able to draw it to the screen. If the computer tries to tell the monitor to draw the new frame before it's finished drawing the old one, you can end up with "screen tearing," where a portion of the screen is the old frame and a portion of the screen is the new frame. VSync forces the computer to wait for the monitor to finish painting the old frame before sending it a new one to draw, preventing screen tearing. Additionally, VSync (depending on how it's implemented) can improve the overall responsiveness of the system by allowing it to go do other things (e.g. load the game's Wiki) while it's waiting for the monitor to finish drawing. However, a lot of games (especially prior to the release of DirectX 12 and Vulkan ca. 2016) only read user input while they're preparing the next frame, so turning on VSync can have a huge impact on the _feel_ of the game for systems capable of generating multiple frames per screen refresh. (This is why it's common for games like Rainbow Six: Siege to run at such high framerates - the game is able to accept inputs quicker, reducing input lag.)
Because all VSync does is change how the system allocates its time, it generally doesn't directly impact performance. The major exception to this rule is if the computer is struggling to reach the monitor's refresh rate. If the computer takes longer to generate a frame than it takes for the monitor to refresh, the monitor will simply redraw the same frame until the computer has a new frame ready. As a result, the computer has to wait however many refreshes it takes to generate the frame, plus one more for the monitor to be ready to receive it. The net result is that if the computer drops below the refresh rate _at all,_ it will become locked to _half_ the refresh rate. In this scenario, turning VSync off allows the computer to immediately begin processing the next frame once the previous one is done, allowing it to get closer to the refresh rate (at the cost of potential screen tearing).
ADDENDUM: Nowadays, screen tearing is almost never an issue. The first game systems and computers were highly prone to it, because their design meant that the data the central processor was manipulating was also actively being painted by the monitor/TV; this was worked around by having a period where the monitor was _technically_ outputting pixels, but those pixels were outside the bounds of the visible screen, giving the computer a limited amount of time to prepare the next image (look up VBlank and HBlank for more info). Once hardware was powerful enough, the concept of "double buffering" was introduced, which is more or less what I described in the main comment - the computer has a "canvas" it's building and the monitor has a "canvas" it's drawing, and when both are ready they swap canvases, with the monitor drawing the newly prepared canvas and the computer building a new frame over the old one. Prior to this, when the monitor was actively drawing pixels to the screen, the CPU was limited to only performing operations that didn't affect the screen. Depending on the architecture, this included not just the actual visual data itself (such as textures), but things like an object's position in the game world (as that would be reflected in its position on-screen). Because of this, while the frame was being drawn to the screen, there wasn't much the CPU could do other than load things into memory and maybe process audio. Double-buffering allowed the CPU to do whatever it wanted, whenever it wanted, without fear that it would mess up the image the monitor was drawing. However, for reasons I have been unable to discern, the convention continued to be that the system would render a frame, then wait for the monitor to accept it. While this setup prevented screen tearing, it had the unfortunate side-effect that the game logic would only be run once per frame. If you wanted to run the game logic any faster, you had to accept the possibility of screen tearing. This continued to be the status-quo... until triple-buffering came along. The concept is fairly simple: let the computer render as many frames as it wants, and simply store the most recently completed frame. That way, the monitor can simply accept the new frame whenever it's ready, preventing tearing caused by flipping the buffer mid-draw, while also preventing artifacts caused by the monitor drawing a frame that hasn't finished being rendered. Since the computer no longer has to wait for the monitor to be ready to accept its finished frame, the computer is free to run the core game logic as fast as possible, reducing input, physics, and even network latency ("latency" in this case referring to how long it takes the system to process data once it's received - upwards of 16ms at 60 updates per second, so not insignificant even for networking). Although triple-buffering is still widely in use today, the latency problems caused by the system waiting for the monitor to accept a frame have been reduced further by the introduction of DirectX 12 and Vulkan, which (unlike their predecessors) allow for a fully multi-threaded environment. With multithreading, the game can render a frame (and wait for the monitor if necessary) while _also_ processing user input _and_ performing physics calculations, and none of those operations are dependent on each other - the physics thread may be able to complete multiple times while the render thread generates a frame (which, coincidentally, re-introduces the problem of changes to non-graphical things having an effect on graphics, since the rendering thread might be using data in the physics thread to inform how it should render things - thread safety is another beast entirely and is best left as an exercise for the reader.).
The more you know!
@@blazernitrox6329 how do G-sync and freesync monitors factor into this?
@@Arakus99 To my understanding, they're relatively straightforward. Rather than having a set refresh rate, the monitor is able to operate at a range of speeds, which it negotiates with the GPU. If I had to guess (and Wikipedia seems to back this up), essentially the monitor paints the frame to the screen at a constant rate, but can delay when it starts drawing the next frame until the GPU is ready.That is, the monitor draws the image at the highest speed possible (120hz, for example), but instead of immediately drawing the next frame (or redrawing the same frame if a new one isn't available) it can "hold" the last image on the screen until a new frame is sent. This helps reduce screen tearing the same way VSync does while improving latency by allowing the game to run at a higher framerate. More importantly, it helps avoid stuttering caused when the GPU is unable to provide the framerate the monitor is expecting. Essentially, a fixed 60Hz monitor will always start a new draw once every 1/60th of a second (around 16.7 milliseconds). With VSync enabled, if your framerate drops even slightly below that speed, it gets locked to _half_ the speed - 30FPS in this case. Disabling VSync allows the GPU to send as many frames as it can, but now there's a timing mismatch. If the GPU is running at exactly 59FPS, then for 58 of the 60 refreshes, the monitor will have a new image which is on the screen for exactly 16.7ms, but for the last two refreshes, there's only one frame available, so it will need to be drawn twice, totalling 33.3ms. This inconsistency - some, but not all, frames being redrawn multiple times - is noticed by the user as stutter. With GSync and Freesync, rather than always drawing at 60Hz and redrawing frames to make up the difference, the monitor is able to slow down to match the framerate so each frame is on the screen for the same amount of time.
tldr. vsync makes the game wait until the monitor is ready before showing the frame.
It will start working on the next frame while waiting, but by the time the next frame is presented, it will be stale, so you get input lag.
Adaptive refresh rate monitors are more flexible with timing, and so games can try and match your monitors frame rate but there isn't a strict deadline
This free 16-and-some minute video was infinitely more entertaining than my last paid year of Netflix. Thank you.
Have you considered cancelling your Netflix subscription, or do you have reasons to keep it around?
My mom still pay for Netflix even though we don't know the password anymore because she doesn't know how to cancel.
You must watch some really shite shows.
@@KoopaKid660 So reset the password?"? Why are you letting your mom waste money?
user error
That USB port cut was fantastic, if I wasn't told that it was a modification I wouldn't even think to look twice at it.
i read the "your privacy is our priority" as 'your privacy is our property" at first glance ...
Well you're not wrong
Pretty sure that’s the more accurate version anyway
They Live moment
IT NEEDS LINUX
@notanetcherand why?
The Samsung S Pen also works using the EM resonance. The onboard battery is only for the bluetooth remote control functions, while the cursor and the air commands don't use battery at all. In fact, the Galaxy S5 had air commands even without an S-Pen. It used EM Resonance just to know where your finger was hovering.
Never been so excited to see a USB port! The CPU was probably only hitting 50% because it's a dual core CPU but was only able to use one.
10:32 That connector is called Micro SATA.
It's the same protocol as normal SATA, but it's intended for 1.8" SSDs, which were briefly a thing in the late 00s.
They were used in things like iPods and other tablet PCs I believe, things that were to small to use normal data, but needed more storage than flash could provide at a decent price.
The pen technology is what modern drawing tablets and now Samsung/Apple tablets use too. Being able to hover the cursor over the screen gives you feedback the same way that moving around a mouse does. It's basically a requirement for screenless drawing tablets.
Yaeh, I'm surprised he doesn't know that or mentioned it considering it's pretty common tech
yeah, it's just like my wacom tablet. and the technology is around a few years
at 10:57 you can see the tech is actually provided by wacom themselves!!!
I recognized the stylus immediately, I have the same one in black around here from an old non-healthcare Motion Computing tablet. It's Wacom Graphire-2 technology and is very, very common, the same stylus pen would work my ancient IBM 80486 monochrome tablet, my Fujitsu Stylistic, and several different Samsung phones and tablets. Doesn't work with my new Motorola, though.
For some reason, your comment had "cursor" in blue text with a blue magnifying glass next to it. I clicked on it, just searched RUclips for "cursor". Came back to the comment and the link was gone lol
>has upgradeable memory
>has a tiny PCIe slot
JOHN BRINGUS NEEDS TO GET HIS HANDS ON THIS
Wacom logo spotted
As James went over this i knew instantly that it was a Wacom implementation
Making me wonder if he just scored an unusually cheap drawing tablet that'd actually work for art.
@@LanceThumping if you could hook it up to a machine actually capable of running photoshop/art program of choice well, it'd almost certainly work fine. Wacom's design is pretty fool-proof (and age proof beyond just general electronic corrosion and decay). I have a tablet from ~2010 that only gave up the ghost this year. Still works completely fine except the pressure sensor finally gave out.
The real problem here is that this is a PC in and of itself, so I'm not confident there would be any easy solution to hook it up to another PC as a peripheral.
But using it itself in a very old version of photoshop would be worse than just buying a decade old tablet off a second hand market, which you can get for like 50 bucks or less.
I also noticed the pen acted exactly like Wacom's and did a quick a search. Apparently Wacom makes tablets for multiple industries, including healthcare. So this is a bonafide Wacom device, neat!
@@thepinkplushiei’m pretty sure window supports pen input over remote desktop
As soon as he said how the pen worked I went "wait like a Wacom tablet!"
9:56 "This thing is designed to be used around bad experiences" is crazy. Just said it so casual too.
0:20 crazy how much money a corporation that only cares about profits will waste on junk they dont use
To be fair, they buy extras for backups as well. When you’re in a hospital and one of these breaks in the middle of a surgery or something, you probably don’t want to wait 3 business days to get a replacement.
Usually the money is wasted before they reap the profits
@@alltheotherhandlesaretaken Nobody is relying on a 1.33ghz tablet for surgery.
"The biggest companies make the worst crap."
@@glassowlieye- WAIT A MINUTE WRONG CHANNEL
The magnetic resonance thing is actually fairly common in the art space as that's exactly how a lot of screened drawing tablets work
I know this now lol
This channel feels like Bringus and Dankpods had a child, love it, subscribed!
15:25 the reason it's such a bad score without maxing out any of the components is because they're most likely bottlenecked by memory bandwidth in some way, most likely VRAM
Not just vram, intel graphics is not optimized for complex 3D calculations, they're mostly just meant for light 2D stuff, video decoding, and very simple 3D stuff. You could give that thing 4gb of VRAM and it just wouldn't go faster in any meaningful way.
@@RAHelllord I didn't mean the amount, I meant BANDWIDTH. It can't move data fast enough to actually load it up to a 100.
When you explained the way the computer detects the stylus connects through electromagnetic resonance instead of capacitive touch, my brain went: huh, that's how Wacom drawing tablets work. So I feel somewhat validated when I saw 'Wacom Digitizer' when you opened up the device. It does make me wonder if Wacom has a complete control over that technology and patent.
I was also hopeful when I saw the mini PCI and PCIE slot. Because I am sure you can plug in a graphics card with a chain of adapters using that! I wonder how much the CPU would be bottlenecking the performance. I know a certain Bringus Studios youtuber who would love to see this computer. He has a track record of gaming on random ass devices.
And also, that usb port cut is so clean. That was an amazing job.
The interface reminds me of my drawing tablet, it's just a screen with a wireless/batteryless pen but this thing is awesome
Also a few minutes in I thought this guy sounds like dank pods without the dank and way more chill
Definitely subbing, hope to see more content
My guess is the smartcard slot is for Healthcare system login authentication, possibly for something like Lorenzo, which I know is used in Austrailia.
Its probably a hold over too, the RFID would have really replaced that at least here in the states maybe its different there :)
Over where I live (dad works in a hospital) they use smart cards to identify terminals to an RDP and as access control for some machines
@@mromuttin the UK. we still use smart cards for the nhs, but eventually they want to move to something more modern. I know a little bit about what Australia use, as they share a lot of the same products we do.
3:20 its funny to see you not knowing about these features because tey are still present in modern win11 for drawing tablets and the microsoft slim pens which have the exact same way of navigation (down to the swipe gesture in browsers)
1:35 😂 relatable I did the same with the laptops in my high school library😂
Still got a few product keys left from then.
If this was ever used in any capacity in a healthcare setting the fan would be a legitimate health risk
Give this to Bringus Studio
He would turn it into a ps4 somehow
@@VirulentPestSteam Deck*
He’d just game on it like James already did.
THATS WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY
I thought this was a bringus video at first
I love how many mannerisms you share with Wade. The dank is spreading.
I have a feeling many of them wade gets from james XD my friend and I are like them, me being the james and my friend the wade lol.
5:20 2 sets of James hands caught me off guard somehow
jamesception
Earlier this year I worked at in a secondhand computer warehouse and my department was basically the "either you can figure something out about these electronics or they go to ewaste" and I had a couple of these come across my desk. We couldnt sell them for whatever reason. They were a newer model than this one though (windows 8!). We ripped the back off of it, stuffed it with the biggest SSD we could spare and a 16GB laptop ram and kept it in the corner of our office as an emulator box
I love how GTA IV struggles with gigachad level gaming rigs and you're making this poor lad go through it lol
10:22 It may a warm-swap feature (i.e. you could swap the battery without restarting, but you can't just yank it). At a previous job, we had these android handheld things for scanning tags, and in the power menu was an option labeled "Swap Battery" you were then instructed to wait until the red status light went out (as I understand, it charged a supercap and powered down all but the RAM and slowed the CPU), then you had 1 minute from when you pulled the battery out to put another in, and you'd hold the power button to resume. It's possible there's an app somewhere to trigger that. The company that made those advertised a healthcare variant that did let you just yank the battery without warning, so the other possibility is that internal battery is just sad.
So THAT'S how those screens work! My XPpen drawing tablet works exactly the same! The little diamond instead of a normal mouse cursor means it's missing a specific driver.
OH THAT'S WHY MY XP PEN WAS ACTING WEIRD
@@hellohaveagoodday Oh yeah, whenever you see the little diamond cursor, just reinstall it. Takes about 2 minutes and all works perfect again. I've got the installer pinned to my start screen now so I don't have to go look for it anymore. And don't worry, reinstalling does not get rid of your screen calibrations, it just resets the express buttons, but that's an easy fix too.
The diamond just means that Windows is acting on your pen's behalf instead of the pen's drivers.
@@YokiDokiPanic huh a diamond cursor?
Minnie or Adam?
I love that James is turning into Australian Bringus
Magnets are in fact magic.
My ancient Wacom has the same pen tech; no battery, can detect the position before touching and has buttons. Not sure when it was invented, but my Wacom is about 23 years old.
I have a very clear picture in my mind how it may look like. It's thick, grey, has a small surface to overall size ratio and it's riddled with so many marks from the stylus that it could as well be a death metal band logo!
@@crabofchaos7881 It's not in bad shape considering, but definitely "ancient beige" with a big bezel 😅
I've got a huion kamvas 13 and it's orders of magnitude better than using the dreaded touchscreen styus with the squishy tip for drawing.
Not a super high-res screen but because you're already using it with a computer, just look at your monitor when you need to. The fact the pen doesn't need any stupid batteries is wonderful.
This tablet is powered by wacom digitizer tech, too. It's in the video where he had the tablet opened up.
Its nice to see James shouting out smaler creators like James Channel. I hope they collab one day.
The pen technology is very similar to the Wacom drawing tablets. no battery needed!
Samsung tablets do the same thing
@@musicbyimpulse Probably because Samsung uses Wacom's Digital Pen tech.
you can see a wacom sticker on the back of the display at about 11 minutes in the video
And Microsoft's Surface tablets. I'm surprised James is surprised by the tech.
@@oxymoron02 I dont think its he's actually surprised but more he's explaining it to us by way of him "learning" how it works, think those old shows they used to play for us in school.
I was about to comment ‘is this dankpods’ long lost brother’ and then I realised IT’S JAMES
soo who is it
Holy crap that USB port cutout looks factory
Skills
13:19 "It's hard to put plastic back if you cut over" That's what the hot glue is for!
After he said that, I expected him to say "remember the NES cartridge console?" 😂
super glue and baking soda! thats how I add material where material is missing haha
8:43 Wade is that you??
I swear, things like this were made during a time period when manufacturers would produce 2 items that were similar, but one with less options than the other, but instead of ACTUALLY making 2 different items, they'd just introduce software to stop it from utilizing the full item, OR they'd make a separate case to cover up any extra ports or anything that it shouldn't have.
I remember there was a GPU around this time that they made, that they just took a more expensive version, and tossed some software on it that limited it's speed and utilization to a lower level.
Damn man, good job on that USB hole. Looks proper.
It's James!! The guy who fixed dankpod's nuggets cars 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Need more of you purchasing random industrial equipment and messing with it. Literally the best.
Didn't pay attention to the accent until a minute into the video and only then noticed that it's THE James himself! Glad to be here. Such a cool device, too.
Hey, thanks for the Legacy Update shoutout! Love when it can help demonstrate an old machine like it's still new. By the way, check out the download center section, I think the copy of DirectX there doesn't have that Bing junk going on.
Something has to be wrong with the machine or Project64, because I've absolutely run it on a potato Pentium 4 with GeForce 420 (I only remember this because it's the funny number). That i3 should be able to run it super well with most of the settings cranked up.
(p.s. I'm in Adelaide, if you ever want to catch up 😉)
Agreed, Legacy Update is an absolute lifesaver for anyone using old hardware. Love the discord server too.
I worked in Healthcare IT for a while several years back and these things were literally my life for several months! Fixing them and keeping them going prior to being gradually phased out, became my main responsibility! The models we had were optioned with the barcode scanner (but we're never really used) and came with a single USB port.
The docking stations were pretty cool and they had their own little keyboards.
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When it comes to screws, I came up with a similar solution in sorting them by where they came out from, but I use cardboard cut to size & screw them into that so they cant move around. Its a whole heap of help in being able to put a project aside.
That usb hole looks so clean, wow!
A bunch of my school’s old Promethean boards had tech just like this. Batteryless pen, hover to move, tap to click, and button to right click. Wasn’t an lcd though, it was a projected overlay (as in rgb projector from epson) and you would need to calibrate the pen everyday so that it worked. This was cerca 2013 at least although they seemed old even then.
3 bandaids this time and a tablet from a hospital... hmmm
Once, I made a stylus for an Ipad out of an old pen, tinfoil, and a Q-tip. It worked pretty well, too. I think it was the same electromagnetic principle as this stylus.
Holy crap! I bought one of these for my mother and girlfriend! They're durable as hell and the docking station worked great.
Imagine my surprise I see it show up here. At the time, they made great art tablets, and it even came with a free build in laptop.
There's also an NFC reader/writer, barcode scanner, and I think it may have Bluetooth? I mostly got it for the Wacom tablet features.
I had one of the xp ones of these a long time ago for drawing too! Also the docks for these things are great, you can tilt them however you like and it holds its position as well as all the added ports and you keep the charger plugged into it so you can just pick up the tablet and go anytime then redock later. Maybe I should get a new one :) I kind of miss mine now.
I really hope "mother and girlfriend" is referring to two people
@@MaydupNem It is. I repaired 2 of them to functioning order and gave one to each. However, there were slight differences between them, namely that USB port that the video showed: it was only present on one of them.
I had to support these models at the hospital i worked IT for. By support i mean around 2012ish? they purchased them and deployed them to two nursing pods and around 10 at our IT outpost for testing and promptly did nothing with them and they went unused until we ewasted them around 2016.
Sames Chanel 3:42
That might just be the best closing meow yet
thank you for this red dankpods
I think what the 512 resource was is talking about VRAM. All things considered, your lucky to have any VRAM on that thing.
I shoulve grabbed these when our plant got rid of them, we used them as mobile processing control screens for our dairy plant. Ours even had the RF, IR beam, WiFi, and Bluetooth connectivity options. It was interesting seeing 20years of wireless connectivity mashed into one unit.
Ol' Mate James is quickly becoming one of my favorite RUclips channels. Keep up the great work, James!
Rip James 🪦🕊️
He was so young
I remember a HP laptop that used to twist its screen to close like a modern tablet, total nugget and had the same pen thing with the right click button. It wasnt all that great but it was a fun novelty
I think i know what you’re talking about! It was pretty chunky but i loved drawing on it as a child. It was sooo heavy, but i remember looking at it and thinking it was so cool, haha!
This is not a title I expected to see today...
I used to be an arrival agent for an airline and we had these for any possible information about connection flights etc. These things barley worked, but looked modern back then
11:34 NOOO JAMES, NOT THE HITLER RAM 😭😭😭
I’m gonna need an explanation on this one 😂
Edit: Ahh, I see it! Luckily it says A00LF
@@Games_for_James I know, just being silly :P
"ASSY IN CHINA" :3
3:33 a lot of basic Wacom and the pen built into the galaxy note/ultra series phones use this as well. Sometimes they'll have batteries to power additional features or Bluetooth connectivity but the actual writing is battery free.
James Chanel: JC
Jesus Christ: JC
Coincidence? Nope
That SSD form factor is called 1.8" SATA
And that SIM card slot is wired up to the empty mini-PCIe slot, to the left of the PCH.
Yay for finding the hidden USB port! There are a few docking stations on eBay, they are listed as mc-f5, but they work on this model. They have extra USB, a VGA port and networking.
Your channel reminds me of Dankpods before so much of his channel became about his bitterness and disdain towards modern technology. I love it.
Isnt he dankpods actual IRL brother? I think I remember him saying that in another video.
@@CommissariatGames No, I think he’s Dankpods IRL _friend._
8:40 James was channeling Wade's rage for his contempt towards toolbar installs 😂
Genuinely, the first "Hey, I used to have that" moments i have had on this channel
All the stuff with the pen not needing batteries and all the other lil neat features are pretty common with most drawing tablets!
I have a Fujitsu lifebook from 2010ish with a similar screen-powered pen system, but it has capacitive touch as well. Also has hot-swap drive bay that you can drop a second battery into in place of a drive.
When the PS3 was being worked on Sony released a new controller to replace the DualShock and it's a sight to behold. l'd like to see James turn a DualShock 3 into the boomerang controller that was ultimately canned because i heard that it was actually super comfortable.
This is the best drawing tablet an artist could have
3:45 this is how most higher quality drawing tablets work, which is nice since you dont have to worry about batteries after a lot of use.
Nibs, however, god Ive gone through so many nibs.
you know the build is awesome and feels like it can withstand a bit of human accidents rather than those plain thin devices we have today
3:50 for a second I thought it was “same’s channel” since the J was crooked
THIS NEEDS LINUX
14:26 OH MY PEEECEEE!!!!!!
Congrats for 200k m8
Imagine being in the hospital for something serious, your doctor comes in and starts asking you questions about what your symptoms or injuries are, and then you find out your doctor was playing Donkey Kong Country this whole time
House M.D.
"i laid them out as they came out"
Dude with the way you were waving your hands i legitimately thought i was about to witness an IT nightmare.
13:25 so you CAN make it look good!
Yo when you said you wanted to do a good job on the usb hole I didn't expect you to actually do a good job lol That looks fantastic
That makeshift hole was superb.
The Eat Up Martha interface is working beautifully.