Hiya bud only recently found your channel and the more videos I watch the more I like your channel iv subscribed and would like to say thank you for putting in the effort and time to make these videos and covering questions that some people don't cover keep up the great work pal and happy hunting
@@AimSmall I found it really interesting watching the grouping sizes with the different speeds and with today's modern air rifles being so tuneable with the barrels and the slugs and pellets all performing so well in the past Iv done my own pellet tests with different head sizes and over different ranges I'm in the UK and only using sub12 ftlbs and the air rifles Iv tried over the years have all been tidy rifles but Iv had mixed results on grouping with the different head sizes and the type of pellets ie flat top, dome, hollow point, semi pointed/domed, pointed to non washed pellets to washed and then washed and lubricated Iv spent a lot of money and time as you do when your interested in the results and trying to find the best accuracy, grouping, impacting and deforming pellets giving the best energy transfer even the softness of the lead used in the making of the pellets and with some of today's air rifle tuners how much better can you make a off the shelf rifle by tuning it in stages, sorry for such a long reply but there's so many things that I think could be looked at yano Iv only just been making my way through some of your videos so I'm not sure what you may of covered already
I'm just learning, my very first PCP gun, an Air Venturi Avenger in .22. I haven't even chronographed the rifle yet, just a very rough zero and my first tin of pellets is the Barracuda Hunter and they are making things very easy for me. They are very consistent and my shooting is all 50yd and closer with most of it within 25yd. They have some serious impact energy transfer to them. They wipe out chipmunks, and grey squirrels are just lights out even with a body shot. I suspect they would work well on some larger game like raccoons or maybe even a coyote at close ranges with head shots. Once again, thanks for the detailed testing. It truly shows how relatively small FPS increments can make all the difference with pellet + barrel in the equation.
the ideal speed is as close to the sound barrier as possible, a flatter ballistic curve needs less correction, supersonic pellets spin out of control, so just a tad under the sound barrier is ideal.
Very good video! As a suggestion for a future video, It would be nice to see an expansion test for each of these hunting pellets shot at the velocity that produces the greatest accuracy. Thanks.
90% of my hunting is 30 meters and less. Great video. My rifle shoots the Crow Magnums better and with huge expansion. Past 30 meters slugs are my choice.
I find in .22 the Baracuda Hunter Extreme pellets fly best at 940 fps in my gun. Like in .177 the .22 like tight barrels in my experience and I am sure different barrel rates of twist will change things too my rate of twist is 1;21". Which brings me to my point. I think you have done a very very good job with the videos but your results will be different is different guns. Yes you have showed us the difference in your guns, that was very interesting. But we know nothing about your guns like barrel rate of twist and barrel size, like actual barrel size, and type of rifling. You do such a great job with all the different pellets maybe next you can cover difference in guns/barrels.
Thank you for the great feedback. My knowledge of gun barrels is dangerous. I test pellets and slugs and whatever works in my gun I use. Yes you are 100% correct, this is just the results from my gun, in the duscription I did mention this is the 700mm superior heavy liner. Every gun will be different, even with the same liner/twist rate and power as mine. Not 2 barrels are alike, thus testing with different barrels will give small differences every single time, but the general trend should be the same.
I Get it. You would need to be able to shoot a lot of different guns to really be able to see what likes what. I found out very quickly that rate of twist is huge. a 1:21 rate of twist may be ok for some pellets but forget slugs, and pellets were, well, ok for hunting but at close range. the barrel being tight didn't help either. Fouled easy. I don't see any videos that talk about rates of twist other than Matt's. I replaced the tight .177 1;21" barrel with a Lothar Walther .22 1;17.7 R.O.T., standard choked barrel and what an improvement. It was a crap shoot though. Choked, no choke, standard rifling, polygon rifling, different lands and grove sizes, different barrel outside diameters? Needless to say I learned a lot. It would be nice if airgun makers would share rifling information on the box and in the description. Anyways Thanks for the research you do.
Nice test. But longer distance will show differences. I have usually sight my break barrels in at 40 yards, but sighted in at 63 yards right now, (using the Hornet .22 in a Gamo magnum 28fpe, 886fps). I know that if I have good groups at 80 yards, I will have great groups at 33 yards. So aim big and long, more like old American thinking. :)
There are two schools of though here, if the pellet doesn't group at 33y it wont group at 68 yards either, plus if you look at the optimal zero on Chairgun, most air rifles shooting up to 950fps has an optimal zero at about 33y, thus you only hold over and never hold under using a mildot or MRAD scope.
@@ronaldkonings8117 In Short, favorite pellet stays the JSB 18.13gr, good accuracy, easily available, well priced - only down side is that their quality control slips every now and again on a batch. I also enjoy the JSB Hades, been succesful shooting doves out to 84m with them, the heavy 25,39 redesigneds are marvelous at 930fps out to 75 m . My current setup is for competition purposes - reg at 90bar shooting 18gr JSB or AA at 900fps, I get the best consistency there and also very good shot count. Best of both worlds.
@@AimSmall i agree on your choice, shooting the same pellets but with a RTI Prophet .22 long. I have a FX maverick incoming 😊 I really like your video, short and effective with some humor👍🏻 Keep the coming!
Great testing, cool to see various speeds different pellets like. I've always wished JSB would release 18.13 version of Hades pellet in .22 cal
Thanks for your great reviews.
Hiya bud only recently found your channel and the more videos I watch the more I like your channel iv subscribed and would like to say thank you for putting in the effort and time to make these videos and covering questions that some people don't cover keep up the great work pal and happy hunting
Thanks Alex, throw some more questions, always looking for ideas for videos.
@@AimSmall I found it really interesting watching the grouping sizes with the different speeds and with today's modern air rifles being so tuneable with the barrels and the slugs and pellets all performing so well in the past Iv done my own pellet tests with different head sizes and over different ranges I'm in the UK and only using sub12 ftlbs and the air rifles Iv tried over the years have all been tidy rifles but Iv had mixed results on grouping with the different head sizes and the type of pellets ie flat top, dome, hollow point, semi pointed/domed, pointed to non washed pellets to washed and then washed and lubricated Iv spent a lot of money and time as you do when your interested in the results and trying to find the best accuracy, grouping, impacting and deforming pellets giving the best energy transfer even the softness of the lead used in the making of the pellets and with some of today's air rifle tuners how much better can you make a off the shelf rifle by tuning it in stages, sorry for such a long reply but there's so many things that I think could be looked at yano Iv only just been making my way through some of your videos so I'm not sure what you may of covered already
I'm just learning, my very first PCP gun, an Air Venturi Avenger in .22. I haven't even chronographed the rifle yet, just a very rough zero and my first tin of pellets is the Barracuda Hunter and they are making things very easy for me. They are very consistent and my shooting is all 50yd and closer with most of it within 25yd.
They have some serious impact energy transfer to them. They wipe out chipmunks, and grey squirrels are just lights out even with a body shot. I suspect they would work well on some larger game like raccoons or maybe even a coyote at close ranges with head shots. Once again, thanks for the detailed testing. It truly shows how relatively small FPS increments can make all the difference with pellet + barrel in the equation.
Those Venturi are proper airguns, not pellet or slug fussy and shoots real good. Enjoy it.
the ideal speed is as close to the sound barrier as possible, a flatter ballistic curve needs less correction, supersonic pellets spin out of control, so just a tad under the sound barrier is ideal.
Excellent video, food for thought. I think the 50m test is going to put the cat amongst the pigeons!
Look forward to the 50 yard test as well ! 👍👍
Thank you so much
Very good video! As a suggestion for a future video, It would be nice to see an expansion test for each of these hunting pellets shot at the velocity that produces the greatest accuracy. Thanks.
I am working on that, my clay expired so I have to source a new batch. lol. Ballistic gel is just too expensive.
I use the Hornets on my 0.25cal air rifle. Nothing else beats them in my opinion. A tad expensive yes, but they're worth it.
Good job
90% of my hunting is 30 meters and less.
Great video. My rifle shoots the Crow Magnums better and with huge expansion. Past 30 meters slugs are my choice.
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I find in .22 the Baracuda Hunter Extreme pellets fly best at 940 fps in my gun. Like in .177 the .22 like tight barrels in my experience and I am sure different barrel rates of twist will change things too my rate of twist is 1;21". Which brings me to my point. I think you have done a very very good job with the videos but your results will be different is different guns. Yes you have showed us the difference in your guns, that was very interesting. But we know nothing about your guns like barrel rate of twist and barrel size, like actual barrel size, and type of rifling. You do such a great job with all the different pellets maybe next you can cover difference in guns/barrels.
Thank you for the great feedback. My knowledge of gun barrels is dangerous. I test pellets and slugs and whatever works in my gun I use. Yes you are 100% correct, this is just the results from my gun, in the duscription I did mention this is the 700mm superior heavy liner. Every gun will be different, even with the same liner/twist rate and power as mine. Not 2 barrels are alike, thus testing with different barrels will give small differences every single time, but the general trend should be the same.
I Get it. You would need to be able to shoot a lot of different guns to really be able to see what likes what. I found out very quickly that rate of twist is huge. a 1:21 rate of twist may be ok for some pellets but forget slugs, and pellets were, well, ok for hunting but at close range. the barrel being tight didn't help either. Fouled easy. I don't see any videos that talk about rates of twist other than Matt's. I replaced the tight .177 1;21" barrel with a Lothar Walther .22 1;17.7 R.O.T., standard choked barrel and what an improvement. It was a crap shoot though. Choked, no choke, standard rifling, polygon rifling, different lands and grove sizes, different barrel outside diameters? Needless to say I learned a lot. It would be nice if airgun makers would share rifling information on the box and in the description. Anyways Thanks for the
research you do.
Boy, your gun hated the crow magnums. Mine loves them.
Nice test. But longer distance will show differences. I have usually sight my break barrels in at 40 yards, but sighted in at 63 yards right now, (using the Hornet .22 in a Gamo magnum 28fpe, 886fps). I know that if I have good groups at 80 yards, I will have great groups at 33 yards. So aim big and long, more like old American thinking. :)
There are two schools of though here, if the pellet doesn't group at 33y it wont group at 68 yards either, plus if you look at the optimal zero on Chairgun, most air rifles shooting up to 950fps has an optimal zero at about 33y, thus you only hold over and never hold under using a mildot or MRAD scope.
Nice video, simply and honest review. Do you keep the overall results somewhere for later reference?
Yes, I have a big library of tests and results so i can compare if a new entrant gets into the market.
@@AimSmall are you willing to share that? And what are your favorite pellets/slugs after all those tests?
@@ronaldkonings8117 In Short, favorite pellet stays the JSB 18.13gr, good accuracy, easily available, well priced - only down side is that their quality control slips every now and again on a batch. I also enjoy the JSB Hades, been succesful shooting doves out to 84m with them, the heavy 25,39 redesigneds are marvelous at 930fps out to 75 m . My current setup is for competition purposes - reg at 90bar shooting 18gr JSB or AA at 900fps, I get the best consistency there and also very good shot count. Best of both worlds.
@@AimSmall i agree on your choice, shooting the same pellets but with a RTI Prophet .22 long. I have a FX maverick incoming 😊
I really like your video, short and effective with some humor👍🏻
Keep the coming!
The crow mags do the same in .25
Great info Gert👍🏻. What is the diameter (size) of the inner circle on your target? Thanx
Outer circle is 30mm, inner circle is 4mm (white area) to the outside of the inner circle is 6mm
@@AimSmall Thanks Gert...though the outside of inner circle (4mm) seems greater than 6mm...please confirm.
@@mohamedabdoola1159 The white area is 4mm, the line is 1mm think, so the outside of the black circle is 6mm
Hello Gert Why don't you show the tuning method
There was almost no tuning involved... I bought the gun with Regulator at 90 bar, I only tightened the power wheel a bit
@@AimSmall thanks
Need to test at 50-70 yards really
On it... now I know what speeds to shoot at 60m.
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How long was your barrel?
600mm
Lol no... no...🤘🏻😬
Can't be bothered with the so called hunting pellet, if it does not drop with an 18gn jsb use a slug
😂😂 if this dont work out.. you can always put on your big red nose and be a pro clown.