You do an excellent presentation on the subject. Everything I read confirms the results you have shown ; from 875 to 925 is the velocity range that seems to work the best with most .22 cal. pellets , regardless of who makes them. Some guns are of coarse pellet picky ; can't change that.
baaie dankie meneer. I have recently bought an FX impact mk3 and I am trying all sorts of different ammo in it at the local gun club on the 50m range. I haven't had much success with the H&N 18 grainers but I have purchased JSB diabolo's in 13, 14 and also 15 grain like you use in the video here. I am still finding my way into tuning the velocity and I haven't installed the heavy slug liner or the slug power kit for those heavier rounds yet. All in all I am very grateful for your video and I'll be sure to try out these 900+ FPS with the 15 grains this friday. Greetings from The Netherlands and you also have a lekkere dag :)
I heard said that 880 fps for 22 caliber pellets is the sweet speed zone and my MKIII WILDCAT likes small headed pellets. Even the 14.3 hp Crosmans like that speed. One 3/8” hole at 25 yards. Your Impact seems to like that area too. I’ve never tried any of these pellets most are hard to find in stock. Thank you so much for the video. You get a like and subscribe for sure. I really appreciate the speed shooting.
5:08 It is Your gun and that barrel and that air flow !!!! The 15 grainer perform again and again and again !!!!!!!!!!!! Out of your gun setup !! BUT In my Bobcat FAC It does the same result ! From 780 to 830 up to 880 fps ! It is the pellet shape...short and clumsy but soooo sweet !!! You see, I love that round !!!! And those give me 20 more shuts per fill vs the 18.13 gr.`s !!!! Specially when I just have a 200 bar tank and my "Beauty" is thirsty 😜 Actually She deserve 220 bar. Thats why I ordered a HUMA regulator ...and it helped me out of my 50 + shot count !! 65 is existing !! Ok enough talking , I love your videos !!! Lekker 👍
Am having some issues getting any descent accuracy from my avenger in 22, surprised at how much velocity plays a part in accuracy. Will try changing the reg and see what happens, thanks my man.
Yes, speed, barrel,pellet brand and weight all plays a roll. I have a special place with my Daystate at 870fps with 15.89gr pellets, but can't seem to replicate it in my FX at all. The Ghost likes them a tad faster, closer to 900fps.
If the gun is a laser at 810fps leave it be, only adjust speed if accuracy and consistency isn't perfect. Each barrel is different, what worked for me might not work for you. I have a few guns running slow speeds on purpose - because they are lasers at that speed and distance I shoot.
@@AimSmall Thank you for the reply, I have quite a few sub 12 ft/lb rifles and the HW97K shoots like a laser in .177 at 785 fps, the Crown is very accurate now but the trajectory would be flatter if I can increase the speed without affecting accuracy, if it works then good, if not I'll tune it back, thank you for the time you put into your video's, I've sub'd and watched quite a few, very informative.
@@AimSmall Hope you can do a test with the neilsen specialty amo since they do offer lighter slugs 17.5, 20.2 and 23gn. For those airguns with lower settings and dont want to adjust :)
@@michaelacosta1821 Not in the near future, they are just too expensive in South Africa, they are 3x more expensive than good quality slugs here, plus they are not readily available. I will only test them if somebody sends me samples, I don't have a sponsorship so I have to buy all my own stuff. Even if they shoot great nobody in South Africa will buy them due to price.
Hi Gert. Just discovered your channel. I'm based in the UK. Looking to buy a Impact soon. Quick question. Do you need a license for a. 22 airgun in South Africa. Thinking of bringing one over? Thanks in advance.
it will be great if you have the possibility to create a pdf file or word filw with all best setting for impact mk2 for all this pellets/slug!you will be the first to do this
JSB´s are my favorite´s in all my air guns ! But the only H&N´s wich does work are the Field Target both in .177 and in .22 !!!!!!!!!! I think it is not the wight ...it is more the shape wich is working for the barrels I use !! And in my FX Bobcat MK II .22 it´s going not better but even ! This little gun shoot´s anything straight beside .....wait a minute ...can I get 5.51 or 5,52 round balls ???????????????????? Ball´s don´t like land´s and groove´s BUT an original FX Smooth barrel is smooth as my gun stock !!!!!!! I´l will find out where I can get some of those ! Thank´s for your video!!! Your sub 12 videos being the " Gates emptying " ( in Germany we say it to TV series wich are very attractive and people will not miss it !!!) We call those ( Strassenfeger )😃
Nice and informative video Gert but: 1. 30 m is too close to determine the real potential of pellets because most of them start spiraling well beyond 30 m ( in case of the wrong speed and twist ). 2. I think It will be more useful to shoot at 50 and 75 m. 3. Could You try JSB redesigned 25gr pellets at 50+ m?
I do agree, pellets and wind is an all together ball game. I will repeat the exercise at 50m and then take the best 3 of each pellet and speed to 75m. The redesigned I usually shoot from my other FX that is setup for slugs, the Redesigned's performed best at 870 fps all the way up to 940fps, but maximum distance about 75m, they don't like a side wind for some reason.
Great video, you just saved me some pellets hahah Do you think these results will be constant through different guns and barrels? I'm messing around with an old daystate airwolf CDT with an HW barrel The relentless pursuit, Ocd madness I'm now looking for a video or chart that shows the point of aim shift at different distances, different pellet, and velocities
Unfortunately each barrel is different, but the speeds given here should be a very good indication in all guns. Most of my guns love the .22 pellets at 840fps to 870fps.
@@SifuTimBerkemeier Nope. in 177 the best accuracy is at a much lower speed, but at the lower speed wind becomes a massive issue. The diabolo shape limits the speed versus accuracy... to fast and the pellet destabilizes, too slow and it drops like a rock and the iwnd pushes it.
@@victimofthewomenslawcenter4430 If you shoot long distance pellets upping the speed might work, the pellet will take longer to stabilize and will not be accurate at closer distances. Once it stabilizes through the air it will carry more speed for longer. In other words it is going to spin/loop over the first 25 to 40 yards until the pellet stabilizes itself and then it will fly straight.
Great video. Thank you!. What was your pellet liner (heavy or light?) and your barrel length, please?. BTW, the spanish word is "diablo" (devil) and has nothing to do with the the word diabolo that exists in spanish as well and is a toy.
Gert ,why dont you adjust your scope so it will shoot a couple of inches high, that way ,you dont loose your aimpoint! Also 21 g barra match thrive on speed faster the better Rgds steve
I do this with the Helix scope on my slug gun, but I don't like the adjust-ability of the Hawke Sidewinder, the clicks aren't crisp and I don't feel comfortable dialing it like my Helix. The correct thing would be to dial it, but I am used to shooting mil dots and Mrad due to the HFT shooting I do. Yes, I am only human and an error will creep in here and there, I don't do double takes, what you see is the first hand experience I got, doing re-takes allows the person to manipulate results and only pick the best ones... If you shoot 20 groups with the same gun you will eventually get a good grouping, or get lucky. Thank you for the advice, now to get past the wife for another Helix scope...
maybe ,you should try the test at 15 - 30 - 50 meters or more at some time ,because if a gun has a good shot to shot speed, it is possible that you got good groups at 20 meters and not at 50 because of spiraling and wind. spiraling is the biggest factor of large groups together with speed from shot to shot. from the gun factor not wind and shooter included. if you shoot the pellet at 805 fps ,the pellet wil go at 50 meters slowwer ,and what about ,7,5 joule or 16,3 joule guns .its the twist and pellet fitting that also counts
I shot .22 hades from my impact slug setup (27 grain slug usually) OMG It sounded like a 17 hmr 🤣🙉 Supersonic or what 🤣🙈. The echo from around the trees was incredible 🤣. I’m wondering what some 25 grain pellets would be like with a typical slug setup say about 900-960+ fps🤔. Could you try this please 😉🤞🙏
I shot the Redesigned's for a long time from my slug setup, speed at 870 - 940fps worked the best. I think I made a video about it, will have to look in the archives.
My last time out with the superior heavy I got some good shots with the fx 18.13gr. At 90 yards 10 shots smaller than a dime with a bit of wind too! I think most of that was just luck but it consistently shot pellets very well. The majority of the shots did the very similar the whole day. I really like my superior heavy it shoots everything really well.
Already did .177 - With the sub 12ft.lb limitation there is not much I can do, plus I don't have an adjustable gun to do it in. Stick to785fps for most pellets in 8.44gr.
The .177 is a bit of a challenge due to the 12ft.lb restriction, I like to shoot pellets at 840fps but that is more than 12ft.lb and none of my guns are setup to do so. For my current setup I prefer 785fps, I get the most consistency there. Slower and the wind pushes it too hard and it drops out of the air like a brick beyond 40m.
@@AimSmall im meant under 12ft..(my gun only 8 ft) .If you can make from 5ft to 12 ft it will be inaf.Because here also only 12 ft...and 20 meters if it possible
I’m trying to tune Fx Impact Mk2 .22 700mm barrel Power Plenum Slug power kit Huma Air dual transfer port Superior liner I’m trying to tune for JSB 18.13gr. Can’t get a good grouping What is your tune ??
I have changed the hummer spring with power plenum do i have to change it back the original hammer spring? I also have 2 spacers should I remove them ??
18.13gr at 1010 - 1020 is best speed for them from FX barrels. I and some very active bird pest shooters all shoot them at a bit over 1000fps, best consistency and good to 60 - 70m.
You are one from the best reviewers on this topic my friend! greats
You do an excellent presentation on the subject. Everything I read confirms the results you have shown ; from 875 to 925 is the velocity range that seems to work the best with most .22 cal. pellets , regardless of who makes them. Some guns are of coarse pellet picky ; can't change that.
baaie dankie meneer. I have recently bought an FX impact mk3 and I am trying all sorts of different ammo in it at the local gun club on the 50m range. I haven't had much success with the H&N 18 grainers but I have purchased JSB diabolo's in 13, 14 and also 15 grain like you use in the video here. I am still finding my way into tuning the velocity and I haven't installed the heavy slug liner or the slug power kit for those heavier rounds yet. All in all I am very grateful for your video and I'll be sure to try out these 900+ FPS with the 15 grains this friday. Greetings from The Netherlands and you also have a lekkere dag :)
Awesomeness, enjoy the new toy. Don't get sucked into too much power shooting, shoot what is accurate and economical.
I like your scientific experiments
I heard said that 880 fps for 22 caliber pellets is the sweet speed zone and my MKIII WILDCAT likes small headed pellets. Even the 14.3 hp Crosmans like that speed. One 3/8” hole at 25 yards. Your Impact seems to like that area too. I’ve never tried any of these pellets most are hard to find in stock. Thank you so much for the video. You get a like and subscribe for sure. I really appreciate the speed shooting.
I absolutely love your videos. All substance and no fluff. Thumbs up.
Hello Gert. Thank you for all the work you have put into this! Has pointed me in the right direction to achieve the best I can out of my FX.
Love this. Looking forward to the 50m range.
Excellent video 👏👏
great video, no bu.ls.it to the point love it great job
Very useful video.Thanks
Another great vid Gert. This is EXACTLY the kind of data i’m looking for. THanks. Great series.
5:08 It is Your gun and that barrel and that air flow !!!! The 15 grainer perform again and again and again !!!!!!!!!!!! Out of your gun setup !! BUT In my Bobcat FAC It does the same result ! From 780 to 830 up to 880 fps ! It is the pellet shape...short and clumsy but soooo sweet !!! You see, I love that round !!!! And those give me 20 more shuts per fill vs the 18.13 gr.`s !!!! Specially when I just have a 200 bar tank and my "Beauty" is thirsty 😜 Actually She deserve 220 bar. Thats why I ordered a HUMA regulator ...and it helped me
out of my 50 + shot count !! 65 is existing !! Ok enough talking , I love your videos !!! Lekker 👍
Wow!!!! Thank you for this..very informative indeed!!!!!
Amazing.
Very nice 👌👍
Am having some issues getting any descent accuracy from my avenger in 22, surprised at how much velocity plays a part in accuracy. Will try changing the reg and see what happens, thanks my man.
Yes, speed, barrel,pellet brand and weight all plays a roll. I have a special place with my Daystate at 870fps with 15.89gr pellets, but can't seem to replicate it in my FX at all. The Ghost likes them a tad faster, closer to 900fps.
Love the info always, and though Diabolo was Spanish too. Nice to know what were really talking about.
Awesome job
Very good video sir appreciate it
You made my day sir!! was looking for this and you hit the spot... kudos coming... subscribed too.thx Pascal.
Yep I'll be increasing power on my Fx Crown, currently shooting JSB 18.18 around 810 fps, that's about to change, thank you for putting in the time.
If the gun is a laser at 810fps leave it be, only adjust speed if accuracy and consistency isn't perfect. Each barrel is different, what worked for me might not work for you. I have a few guns running slow speeds on purpose - because they are lasers at that speed and distance I shoot.
@@AimSmall Thank you for the reply, I have quite a few sub 12 ft/lb rifles and the HW97K shoots like a laser in .177 at 785 fps, the Crown is very accurate now but the trajectory would be flatter if I can increase the speed without affecting accuracy, if it works then good, if not I'll tune it back, thank you for the time you put into your video's, I've sub'd and watched quite a few, very informative.
Good video again
Are you going to do another hunting video? I Would like to see more flys go splat .
Nice shoots buddy. I like to shoots baracuda 21gr @930fps are Laser as well on that speed
Great vid. Hoping you can do this with slugs of diffrent weights as well.
I did do this with all the slugs available in South Africa, have a look at my earlier videos.
@@AimSmall Hope you can do a test with the neilsen specialty amo since they do offer lighter slugs 17.5, 20.2 and 23gn. For those airguns with lower settings and dont want to adjust :)
@@michaelacosta1821 Not in the near future, they are just too expensive in South Africa, they are 3x more expensive than good quality slugs here, plus they are not readily available. I will only test them if somebody sends me samples, I don't have a sponsorship so I have to buy all my own stuff. Even if they shoot great nobody in South Africa will buy them due to price.
Hi Gert. Just discovered your channel. I'm based in the UK. Looking to buy a Impact soon. Quick question. Do you need a license for a. 22 airgun in South Africa. Thinking of bringing one over? Thanks in advance.
it will be great if you have the possibility to create a pdf file or word filw with all best setting for impact mk2 for all this pellets/slug!you will be the first to do this
Yes but I’m in Uk I need more information please if you can help... many thanks
JSB´s are my favorite´s in all my air guns ! But the only H&N´s wich does work are the Field Target both in .177 and in .22 !!!!!!!!!! I think it is not the wight ...it is more the shape wich is working for the barrels I use !! And in my FX Bobcat MK II .22 it´s going not better but even ! This little gun shoot´s anything straight beside .....wait a minute ...can I get 5.51 or 5,52 round balls ???????????????????? Ball´s don´t like land´s and groove´s BUT an original FX Smooth barrel is smooth as my gun stock !!!!!!! I´l will find out where I can get some of those ! Thank´s for your video!!! Your sub 12 videos being the " Gates emptying " ( in Germany we say it to TV series wich are very attractive and people will not miss it !!!)
We call those ( Strassenfeger )😃
Nice and informative video Gert but:
1. 30 m is too close to determine the real potential of pellets because most of them start spiraling well beyond 30 m ( in case of the wrong speed and twist ).
2. I think It will be more useful to shoot at 50 and 75 m.
3. Could You try JSB redesigned 25gr pellets at 50+ m?
I do agree, pellets and wind is an all together ball game. I will repeat the exercise at 50m and then take the best 3 of each pellet and speed to 75m. The redesigned I usually shoot from my other FX that is setup for slugs, the Redesigned's performed best at 870 fps all the way up to 940fps, but maximum distance about 75m, they don't like a side wind for some reason.
@@AimSmall
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hello mate, very good videos, that help us to continue learning, what liner you have on the impacat, thank you
This is the Superior Heavy Liner. You can use any liner for pellets, they are all accurate.
Great video, you just saved me some pellets hahah
Do you think these results will be constant through different guns and barrels?
I'm messing around with an old daystate airwolf CDT with an HW barrel
The relentless pursuit,
Ocd madness
I'm now looking for a video or chart that shows the point of aim shift at different distances, different pellet, and velocities
Unfortunately each barrel is different, but the speeds given here should be a very good indication in all guns. Most of my guns love the .22 pellets at 840fps to 870fps.
@@AimSmall do you think the same is true with velocities for other calibers
@@SifuTimBerkemeier Nope. in 177 the best accuracy is at a much lower speed, but at the lower speed wind becomes a massive issue. The diabolo shape limits the speed versus accuracy... to fast and the pellet destabilizes, too slow and it drops like a rock and the iwnd pushes it.
@@victimofthewomenslawcenter4430 If you shoot long distance pellets upping the speed might work, the pellet will take longer to stabilize and will not be accurate at closer distances. Once it stabilizes through the air it will carry more speed for longer. In other words it is going to spin/loop over the first 25 to 40 yards until the pellet stabilizes itself and then it will fly straight.
Great video. Thank you!.
What was your pellet liner (heavy or light?) and your barrel length, please?.
BTW, the spanish word is "diablo" (devil) and has nothing to do with the the word diabolo that exists in spanish as well and is a toy.
Thank you, I knew Diablo was devil, that's why I thought diabolo was Spanich. I have the heavy slug liner inserted on the 600mm barrel.
@@AimSmall So, your shooting session was performed with pellets using a slug liner?.
@@nekeke1 100% correct
👍👍👍
Great video where did you get that front rifle rest and how I had the cost.
Just about all the shooting shops here have these rests available, about R380 in South Africa
Gert ,why dont you adjust your scope so it will shoot a couple of inches high, that way ,you dont loose your aimpoint! Also 21 g barra match thrive on speed faster the better
Rgds steve
Yes I believe this will cut out any errors
I do this with the Helix scope on my slug gun, but I don't like the adjust-ability of the Hawke Sidewinder, the clicks aren't crisp and I don't feel comfortable dialing it like my Helix. The correct thing would be to dial it, but I am used to shooting mil dots and Mrad due to the HFT shooting I do. Yes, I am only human and an error will creep in here and there, I don't do double takes, what you see is the first hand experience I got, doing re-takes allows the person to manipulate results and only pick the best ones... If you shoot 20 groups with the same gun you will eventually get a good grouping, or get lucky. Thank you for the advice, now to get past the wife for another Helix scope...
maybe ,you should try the test at 15 - 30 - 50 meters or more at some time ,because if a gun has a good shot to shot speed, it is possible that you got good groups at 20 meters and not at 50 because of spiraling and wind. spiraling is the biggest factor of large groups together with speed from shot to shot. from the gun factor not wind and shooter included. if you shoot the pellet at 805 fps ,the pellet wil go at 50 meters slowwer ,and what about ,7,5 joule or 16,3 joule guns .its the twist and pellet fitting that also counts
I shot .22 hades from my impact slug setup (27 grain slug usually) OMG It sounded like a 17 hmr 🤣🙉 Supersonic or what 🤣🙈. The echo from around the trees was incredible 🤣. I’m wondering what some 25 grain pellets would be like with a typical slug setup say about 900-960+ fps🤔. Could you try this please 😉🤞🙏
I shot the Redesigned's for a long time from my slug setup, speed at 870 - 940fps worked the best. I think I made a video about it, will have to look in the archives.
You missed the hunting pellets
What barrel liner are you using by the way?
The heavy superior liner is in at the moment, but the pellets shoot good out of all 3 barrels I have (Pellet liner and STX slug liner)
My last time out with the superior heavy I got some good shots with the fx 18.13gr. At 90 yards 10 shots smaller than a dime with a bit of wind too! I think most of that was just luck but it consistently shot pellets very well. The majority of the shots did the very similar the whole day. I really like my superior heavy it shoots everything really well.
Wowwwwwww. How about . 177
Already did .177 - With the sub 12ft.lb limitation there is not much I can do, plus I don't have an adjustable gun to do it in. Stick to785fps for most pellets in 8.44gr.
Thank you sir😇
Are you running pellet liner or slug liner? Or slug heavy?
Heavy slugs liner (superior)
super.can you make 4,5mm optimal speed acuracy?
The .177 is a bit of a challenge due to the 12ft.lb restriction, I like to shoot pellets at 840fps but that is more than 12ft.lb and none of my guns are setup to do so. For my current setup I prefer 785fps, I get the most consistency there. Slower and the wind pushes it too hard and it drops out of the air like a brick beyond 40m.
@@AimSmall im meant under 12ft..(my gun only 8 ft) .If you can make from 5ft to 12 ft it will be inaf.Because here also only 12 ft...and 20 meters if it possible
I’m trying to tune Fx Impact Mk2 .22 700mm barrel
Power Plenum
Slug power kit
Huma Air dual transfer port
Superior liner
I’m trying to tune for JSB 18.13gr. Can’t get a good grouping
What is your tune ??
Reg at 90bar, hammer springs very loose (actually factory setting), valve at 3 lines. Good speed is 900fps for me
I have changed the hummer spring with power plenum do i have to change it back the original hammer spring? I also have 2 spacers should I remove them ??
@@sarhanalhabsi Is the gun shooting too fast or too slow?
I changed the weaker hammer spring to old and i managed to get 880-910 fps I find difficult to get good group 1 inch at 30 yds
@@sarhanalhabsi Reg pressure and valve setting?
What liner do you use?
600mm Superior Heavy, they all love pellets. I tried the old STX and pellet liner - both lasers.
Push the 18 g up to 1035. You will be surprised. But time to get the M3 now. (Then you will shoot each plt type 16 times 😆)
Oh hell no, I don't have enough paper and memory cards for a 16 wheel adjustment. lol.
18.13gr at 1010 - 1020 is best speed for them from FX barrels. I and some very active bird pest shooters all shoot them at a bit over 1000fps, best consistency and good to 60 - 70m.
What is your liner?
600mm Superior Heavy, they all love pellets. I tried the old STX and pellet liner - both lasers
@@AimSmall thank you
Any way...diavolo it's a Greek name. 🙂
Keep them subsonic….
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