22gr Velocity test, how slow can they go?
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2021
- Doing some slow testing with leight weight slugs to establish if they will group at lower speeds, shooting the brand new Unknown Slugs in 22gr, FX Hybrid slugs in 22gr and H&N in 21gr. You will be as surprised as I was...
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Good morning. I wanted to take a minute to personally thank you for your channel. I am very appreciative of the time and detail you give to each of your presentations. Thank you. Much success to you.
Great pleasure, I love doing it.
Gert, this is about the 5th time i’m watching this video. It’s an excellent point of reference for those do can’t get high powered equipment. Great video, thanks.
Thank you for the information! 👍🏼
Great Informative videos across the board Gert. Thanks for the work you are doing. I'm considering moving to slugs, so this has helped a lot Thank you!
I enjoy your videos. Interesting results from your testing. I use .177 springers here, cannot afford the gas powered rifles.
Very good testing yuo do ...
Thanks very much Gert. Lovely to see how slow the light slugs can go.
Good vid Gert.
Oh yay! I can actually comment now. I called someone a pussy earlier today and I guess the powers that be weren't pleased.
Awesome vid,
Very nice work . That first set was epic , I'd suffer a little FPS to keep a group that tight , what's a few pounds of energy vs perfect placement ? I'm off to see a more recent upload from you sub earned
Exellent, Thanks.
Brilliant reviews but you need to try the new rti prophet2 for a review
The only projectile I could get to group out of the Gamo wildcat whisper break barrel .177 I had were NSA 12gr slugs. They were flying at about 640fps. They were the ONLY projectile of about 6 I tried to group under 1" at 20 yards. I got rid of that rifle soon after.
Awesome video wow 👏 thanks for sharing bsafe
I like slowering too that's what friday's are for
Just purchased a DAR Gen 3 PCP. Would like to try slugs as it's insanely accurate with about every pellet I've fed it up to about 18.9 grains. Velocity avg is a very consistent 820 fps. Obviously lighter weight slugs will be in order, but are there any you'd recommend over another for a non-slug liner barrel?
I liked to see... 👍👍
Good experiment ! But even if they accepted to be shot slowly ,I would rather choose to shoot them with high speed .Try to get a poly 6 groove barrel.
Wow very interesting, I couldn’t believe my self I thought slugs should be shot at high speed’s.Thats is advantage of fx impact, you can shoot almost any pallets or slugs by easily tune your Impact to perfect speed of the pellet or slug.
Yes, but I didn't repeat the exercise at distance, they drop like bricks... Most barrels are also sensitive and needs a very specific speed, 5fps can be the difference betwwn good and bad
Hiya bud have you heard anything or done anything with the Mako slugs iv seen quite afew people getting good results with it in sub 12FTLBS and it really delivers alot of energy cos of the way it deforms so fastly
Nope nothjing on this side about those slugs
Hi there from the other side of SA (Ellisras-Limpopo). Really cool video and like that you went slower. Would you shoot slugs out of a co2 rifle? My current rifle is a Artemis CP2, and I manage to get 8.02gr pellets out to around 800fps. Have never tried slugs before?
I am afraid they will not work out of a CO2 gun, just too slow, 22gr slugs will travle at +- 350gps, same speed as an arrow or paintball.
@@AimSmallThanks for your reply. I meant .177 slugs which are lighter. I know you get .177 slugs around the 13-15gr range. I have shot JSB Hades in .177 which are 10.3gr and I am getting around 760fps on those.
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner JSb Hades in 177 is 8.44gr , if you push a 13gr slugs you are going to loose another 150fps or more
@@AimSmall Thanks so much for your insight and great videos, it is much appreciated
You should look at the .177 Mako slugs, designed for sub 12ftlb. There are several youtube videos up with exceptional results.
Than k you, they are not available in my country. I recently got some JSB 177 slugs, will try them soonest.
Hello,
Good work!
What bipod rail extension are you using on your MK1 if I may ask?
It is actually 2 UTG Picatinny raiser blocks, one short and one long one, fits nicely at the bottom and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Hi Gert, weet jy dalk watse slugs ek moet gebruik vir die Avenge-X. Die .217 of .218 ? Geen idee nie
Begin met die 217's , as hulle nie werk nie gaan 218's toe.
Thanks for the video. I subscribed. I’m not sure I understand, did you change barrel for this test? I thought you were going to use a standard barrel all through the test.
What would be interesting is to do the same test at say 50 yards, 100 yards and 150 yards and see what happens in terms of accuracy and penetration/energy on the target.
I’m from Vancouver Canada. I am new to this, but I am realizing that the fundamentals of pellet rifles are much more complicated than standard guns, but it’s interesting.
I just purchased a Kervan air boss, K-1 25 caliber. I don’t know the twist rate of the barrel, but I’m trying to find out.
That has been some time ago I did these tests, sold most of the barrels so I can't repeat the exercise.
@@AimSmall Ok. But did you use the same barrel in the video or did you use two different barrels in that video? Because initially it started off as using a standard pellet barrel.
@@surreallife777 Same barrel in that video.
ordered the upgrade african air ordinates kit for my sumatra lets see if the slugs can handle 1000+fps i cant wait ive got so much faith in your slugs my last ones did so great unknown slugs are pure performance
1000fps might be a bit fast for these babies, they don't have a long tail to stabilize. Hope I am wrong
@@AimSmall we will have to see and test but maby those 42 gr slugs will be bad ass against 950 cause the gun now can shoot a 50gr 950fps
@@erweevandermerwe6644 Ouch that is high power
@@AimSmall ill be installing it next week then we can do awsome experements and i bet ur 42 gr slug wil perform crazy
I’ve shot the 23g and the 26g down at 490fps and they group relatively well at 50yards.
What gun did you use?
@@AimSmall ive used a detuned cr600w a qb78 and a hatsan at44. the qb would stack pellets and slugs at 25 yards but open up to a full inch around 45 with the slugs then open up to2 inches anything past that and regular diablo style pellets stay accurate even at 75. the cr600 is the canadian version of the diana stormrider and it held under an inch still at 50 and my hatsan had a really hard time shooting them under650fps.
i found they had a terrible bc under 600fps aswell most guns tend to send them tumbling at low speeds. my old benjamin discovery couldnt shoot any slugs period. wouldnt even group at 20.
@@buildurtruckurway9118 Thank you for the information, very interesting results. Well done.
I think because of the stx barrel ! The hight speed is needed for the regular barrels !
You might be 100% correct here, "normal" barrels are aggresively grooved, slowing down the slug even more and making rifling marks on the slug, with the STX barrels there is almost nothing "gripping " the slug, no barrel rifling and it keeps the speed better.
When will the unknown slugs revealed? I can't wait. Are you aware of AVS slugs from America? (Air Velocity Sport). I've seen some good testing with those.
Unknown slugs are a local brand in South Africa, too much problems with exporting, especially to USA
Are they branded "Unknown" or are they unknown? :}@@AimSmall
Branded Unknown@@lancemarshall4660
thanks@@AimSmall
All 3 different slugs liked 750-760 fps, would like to see what accurasy they have at longer distance with the same fps
Will get to that the moment the weather gives me a break
You get about 760fps ,if remember right, if you switch from 18grn jsb at 900fps or so to KO slugs. It has been a very good sweet spot in my Artimes barrel and out shoots the pellets by far. Very accurate and the BC difference almost covers the drop, but excels in wind.
Awesome news, every now and then I get slugs doing great at slower speeds, the KO's in 216 is not a good match for my barrel, haven't tried the 217's yet.
@@AimSmall The new KO MK2 are very good. They shoot in barrels that the old .216 did not shoot. My new favorite slug. You also get a bit more speed with the lower friction. I bet they will also be more forgiving in other brand barrels.
@@waterandair3106 Will have to retest, my experience with the FX is that it prefers 218's most of the time, the 216's just rattle in the barrel and a lot of air is wasted around the sides.
@@AimSmall The old KO .216 only shot in my barrel up to 800fps and the the groups would open up going faster. The. 217 liked 880fps in my barrel. If I stay at 880fps my barrel never fouls up. I got 4cm and less groups at 100m with the MK2 yesterday. Super consistent with no fliers. It would be nice if you could make a comparison with them compared to other in that waight class. Inferno 25.4 has also been very good in the past and H&N 25grn.
@@waterandair3106 Inferno has a lot of different shapes and sizes in 25gr, my gun unfortunately didn't like them at all. The 25gr and 27gr H&N has been the most accurate slugs to date at 100m out of my gun. WIll see if I can get hold of the Mk II KO's and .217's to test side by side.
What twist rate did you use on them 177s, please.
The FX smooyh twist is a 1/16 twist rate if I remember correctly
Nice test. But 30m for the slugs, what is the point. U can use pellets at that distance. Test them at 50 and 100m, that would be nice info.
Weather permitting sir, yes I know I need to go out to 100m but have been snowed under work and bad weather. 30m gives me at least an indication if there is any promise and it gives me an indication of speed to use at longer distances. Thank for watching and for the reply, much appreciated.
I'm so curious about supersonic projectiles with air. I've been told it will never work, but I'm not convinced. I don't believe it would be effective at any and all distances but I do believe it's possible to be accurate with supersonic projectiles using air.
Their was a guy that shot the Javelins supersonic... can't remember who's video it was. Will have to search for it
@@AimSmall up north airgunner I think.
@@AimSmall ruclips.net/video/cU1gCWvC5P4/видео.html
I found his video earlier on my quest for knowledge. Thanks for all your efforts Gert. I enjoy your vids. Be well, from the hills of Tennessee, Usa.
@@joshuagibson2520 Thats the one i was referring too. Nice
Hi Gert Were can i get some of the unknown slugs in 22gr. I want to test in my Kral Puncher mega S .22
Where are you situated? Ourdoor Pitstop stocks them in Gauteng and I can assist for rest of country...
Im down in Port elizabeth
@@dr.r3ckless60 pop me a mail at unknwonslugs@gmail.com with the order you need, please include cell no as well
Thank you will do keep up the good videos
So can i now ask what make were the .22 grainees?
The make is actually Unknown SLugs, yup that is the name of the slugs.
Sir did you just say that your gun shoots 50 gr at 975 wow , what slugs are those ive been looking forward to shoot some heavy slugs out of my fx
Nope, 30gr at 975fps. I can't get the 40gr or 42gr into the magazine and need to hand feed them.
What brand of slugs are those 22 Grainers ?
The brand is "Unknown Slugs. I make them myself
How to know the speed best suited to a 600mm .22 slug 27gr barrel?
Between 935fps and 960fps
@@AimSmall Can I give me the adjustment chart for the above FPS level? I’ve seen a lot of clips in Vietnam but I didn’t find results.
Very good to know slugs also shoot well at lower speeds. I never tried it 😁
Are you still having problems with the indexing on the big mags???
Have you tried the solution I gave you a couple of videos ago?? It really works, believe me !
Cheers! 👍 👍
Didn't try the solution, need to go and find it again
@@AimSmall it's on ''High power 177 Part 2''.👍
@@MMM-RATTING Thanks
Did you,say there is no slug liner in the barrel thanks
That is the Heavy Superior slug liner shooting these light slugs
The first rifle he shot had the pellet liner. Second is his high power cannon with slug liner
But will they expand at low velocities?
At that low velocity it doesn't flatten the whole slug, but the expansion is good enough with the soft lead. Some manufacturers use harder lead, I know H&N used to use hard lead and the slugs didn't expand so good at any speed. If I am correct there Mk II slugs did see a change in lead, they did however change the hollow point that assists in expansion.
Wats the regulator number 140 or under 100 bar
For the slow speeds the reg was at 90 bar, for the last part fast speeds the reg is at 135bar
Unfortunately, yet again I see another test that is flawed ! Judging how slow a slug can go based on group size isn’t a test ! Seeing how slow a slug can go should be done using high speed cameras (See the slow mo guys) simply to see if they fly straight at slower and slower velocities and using various barrel twist rates. Then when the slowest speed has been found, tune the gun for the lowest extreme spread and standard deviation, then properly tune barrel harmonics with something like the new FX barrel tuner and see how they group ! Then and only then will you know just how slow slugs can be shot and the lowest power level they can be successfully shot ! So go and do it again, properly this time !
Flawed? Hardly. It’s a test to see how slow. What is the relevance / rationale of slow motion if the groups are that tight? It’s not going to tell you anything until you decide on a speed and then start to fine tune, which is not the point of this video. For a basic test, mission accomplished.