@@laura.427 Exactly, it's actually super unhealthy to suppress it, you should discuss it, because because if you don't then you'll just bottle up until it explodeds. Some of this people are acting as if your partner should be able to do everything without boundaries.
@Neo Genesis you’re absolutely right. Jealousy fuels nothing but greed and misery. Best to address jealousy rather than let it rule us so that we don’t turn into possessive monsters.
Coming from someone who had a bad childhood due to accidental pregnancy, I'd say that not having kids if you won't be able to take care of them is very responsible.
Can you explain ...what is a accidental pregnancy if a person is raped and they don't want to keep the baby I understand that but how can you accidentally get pregnant a penis doesn't accidentally make it's way into a vagina
@@blackbutterfly4739 Isnt this obvious? Protection does not guarantee 100% safety. Plus, things like broken condoms or outdated / failed birth control are more common then you think. There are times where people just forget about protection too.
@@unknown_bitch6734 my point exactly so you intentionally had sex but your form of protection didn't work just say that ain't no such thing as no accidental pregnancy I stand corrected
@@blackbutterfly4739 People dont just have sex to have children. Sure its main point is procreation, but people do it for pleasure and relaxation as well seeing that its not always couples doing it. Its also a job for some people.
I think its from the view that if you like that person so much you don't care what it does to you. As he/she is happy your happy. But idk i can be totally of.
yes but honestly that’s beautiful i don’t know if i personally could do a polyamorous relationship but i would be willing to see how it goes but i would rather just be with in person
If you love somebody and you know that this third person makes him happy in a way you maybe dont even want to make him happy then youre happy because he has somebody. Its like with friends. Youre not jealous either because your best friend has another best friend. You just share different hobbies and everybody is fine because nobody has to fulfill wishes that you dont like. Also threesomes or foursomes can be nice
I want to see a woman and 2+ men in a polyamorous relationship. I've noticed that for most polyamorous relationships, it's usually 1 man and multiple women.
Men compete with other men to date women so that would never happen. Multiple men and one women would equal a less likelihood to become a father which is also the issue.
There was this one case though on True Tv I think where one girl had multiple guys (all nerds) but she got pregnant and one of the dudes killed the child out of jealousy or he was mentally unstable already.
I know plenty of polyam women who have multiple male partners. When I was polyam, I did notice one potential partner was incredibly territorial and overly possessive and it was never going to work out.
1) Find better friends if they're doing anything that makes you feel that 2) Polyamory doesn't automatically mean you must be part of a thrupple 3) Don't be poly with people who don't make you feel valued
@@theprousteffect9717 You put that WAAY more succinctly than I could have. I was fixing to write paragraphs to get those points out and you summed it all beautifully lol
I think she went there because of the principle behind jealousy not because she feels it (so like you can feel jealous but the principle of lashing out on your partner because of that jealousy) idk if I explained that well or not but yh
Thats not the point. The point is she knows that it can happen but she works on it and knows that situations can be sometimes like that. But that doesnt mean their relationship is constantly like that or that she doesnt enjoy it. Its like with pizza. You may love pizza but there are times where you just doesnt want it without hating it.
The biggest cope, they all get jealous and these people literally have to neuter their natural emotions and damage their psychy to be actually "ok" with all this garbage
I just want to add that it is NEVER selfish to choose not to have kids in order to pursue your career. (At 6:39 the lady states that it is kind of selfish on their part to want to focus on their career instead of kids, in case anyone was confused as to why I said this)
But it is selfish if you neglect your kids after having them😂. But on the other hand by complete birth control, you are helping the world by being those people who not contributing to overpopulation, which in turn is exploiting the earth's resources. So it's always better to not conceive any kids at all for the world. It ain't selfish if noone is involved. It becomes selfish as soon as you bring a tiny human in your life.
That's how you avoid living through your children (because you've done what you've always wanted to do) And you won't resent your kids when you see them do what you've always wanted to do. It is NEVER selfish!
I feel bad that the Korean lady even had to say that it’s selfish not to want kids (which is not true btw) bc society has brainwashed us into thinking that having children is mandatory ://
Exactly! Do what you want get a career, work, be a stay at home mom, have kids or don't, the choice is yours! Those people who think women need to have kids can go float themselves.
@@MrsRen Except you're completely wrong because the definition of being selfish is to be excessively concerned with oneself WITHOUT ANY REGARD FOR OTHERS, which is not what's happening here. There is absolutely nothing selfish about not wanting to have kids.
@@Ayveh PREACH, there is zero moral obligation for us as human beings to have kids. It's a personal choice, which means it isn't selfish whatsoever to choose to be childfree.
@@MrsRen The drive to have children is actually just as much ( if not more) selfish than not wanting children. Wanting to have kids comes from the biological drive to spread your genetic material so a "peice of you" lives on, so to speak and a want to have a family.
Could have been helpful to start off with a presentation of them and their relationship structure so it would be clear what kind of polyamorous relationship they each had. Nice video nevertheless, it's great that Jubilee is covering this topic!
I have a softspot for Ingrid. Obviously this video isn't a full picture of their relationship, but I hope Ingrid has found/will find what she's looking for.
Did any of you noticed how sad she looked when the guy said the other girl is his primary partner and he built his life with her? I am not polyamorous but to me it looks more like she´s not so important in the relationship and that´s what might be hurting her, that perhaps she doesn't deserve as much love as the others have for each other
polymorphic relationships are fine as long as everyone in the relationship knows what type of relationship their in, if they don't know their partner is that type of person and is dating multiple people ,it's cheating.
I'm non-monogamous and you're 110% right. What makes it cheating is not having every party's enthusiastic consent. I'd even argue that "insisting" that your partner and you become non-monogamous is just not ok. It needs to be something that everyone wants and enjoys.
@@shaereub4450 I'd say that that depends on the relationship. I don't have a say in my partner's other partners, and he doesn't have any on mine either (unless they're really awful people, that's a separate issue). But that really depends.
@@APurpleFable facts tho I'm a monogamous person you are correct. Every relationship including poly are different. Some choose and be with their partners only and some like you have a don't ask don't tell. It's all about communication and treating everyone kindly and how you want to be treated. Again like you stated don't force others into anything.
I loved that too! I think after fourteen years, they really must know each other so well that they completely trust each other. It makes me so happy to see it
You definitely can cheat in ANY relationship, poly or not, if you disrespect boundaries or lie. So saying it's not possible to cheat seems like an excuse to not take responsibility for all your relationships.
Yeah, if you didn't know about external partners of your partner and they never disclosed it then it's definitely cheating. Being open and communicating is the key to EVERY relationship, but more so for polyaromorous. It affects not only you but others in relationship too. Hiding your partner from another partner, not disclosing it is cheating. You're with person that doesn't even know existence of other partners which is bad asf. Just knowing name and fact that there's other partners is okay (to each their own, some, including me, rather have kitchen table)
Morals aside I think adding more people into a relationship makes it more and more complicated. Not impossible, just more challenging and likely for things to go wrong. If people can handle that, power to them but personally I know I couldn't.
Why do so many people point out how hard it is to manage such a relationship? Communication is key in every relationship and I guess most people who point out this thing can't even communicate openly themselves and that's why those people not just 'dont want to do it' itd about that they simply can't because of their own insecurities
@@sleepymaddy7659 I think you answered your own question. Communication can be really difficult. Even the most open couple can have communication problems in time and most everyone has their own insecurities whether they care to admit it or not.
Yes! And to add to make sure they get inclusive (flf,mlm,nblf,tlm,etc) and add different racial couples, plus adding ones that have couples with totally different cultures! (I know they can’t add everything but I would like to see some inclusivity of different cultures/religion/race/sexual orientation) I feel it’s gonna be a mad good discussion, u know??!
I am a monogamous person and do not understand this lifestyle at all. However, I appreciate it being highlighted by Jubilee. Still don’t feel like I understand open-relationships any more so though. 😅
@@roach9232 I was so confused when the vid started coz that's what I knew and I didn't expect most of the ppl here to be in open relationships but most them are.
@@eunhyefloe8055 agree! the term polyamory is so often misunderstood as "open relationship" by default and I wish they'd been more clear about how every relationship of the people in this video worked? idk but I'm still confused about how the puerto rican and korean couple were involved with that other woman ahaha she didn't say much eiter
So, there are like 1) couples in which each partner has other partners 2) couples that let somebody slides in between them sometimes, but they are each others primary partner 3) and three persons equally commited to each other 4) me and my cats
Triouples are 3 , the Dr.Justin the tall black dude in this video had 3 Women ( Meaning they are all 4 in a Relationship )... Quadouples actually 😅 not just 3 people in relation ships..... There's also 5 ( 1 Man and 4 Women in a relationship aswell ).
I'm kind of disappointed in the responses to the "can you cheat in a polyamourous relationship", nobody brought up one of the fundamentals of polyamourous relationships : boundaries and rules. Polyamourous relationship are not just "you can do whatever you want", it's all about communication and setting rules/boundaries. I mean, there can be polyamourous relationships where they just allow everything, but that would be because they discussed it and agreed on it. Most polyamourous relationships have rules to make it work. And breaking the rules you agreed on with it partner(s) is cheating.
But isn't that how a polyamorous relationship starts in the beginning? At first, it was 2 people then another partner got into the picture so then the 2 partners have to come to an agreement then the cycle repeats. So I dont think a polyamorous relationship allows boundaries or rules because it prevents partners from exploring and finding more partners to fulfill their needs
@@bigananikagiso6413 boundaries and rules can be as simple as “if you develop feelings for someone, please communicate that to me before you pursue that relationship so i know what’s happening.” it can be “let me know if you have the intention of having sex with someone tonight.” it can be “keep me in the loop on all of your partners and get tested regularly with me so we can make sure we’re all being safe.” boundaries don’t have to be limits. they can be expectations for communication. my partner and i are currently monogamous with the understanding that if either of us develop feelings for someone outside of the relationship, we will communicate that and go from there. for me, if my partner develops feelings, i know i’ll be okay with that. i’m polyamorous by nature so i wouldn’t feel jealous over my partner pursuing someone else. i just want to be made aware before it happens.
@SaErth2 I'm really disappointed too. Especially with the example the korean lady said, maybe she can go in a situation like that guilt free but if she knows the person she's with is cheating on their spouse and has no issues with it... You're still cheating. It takes two.
Same, I was pretty shocked too. I mean the wording of the question itself is a bit confusing as well ("Is cheating acceptable in polyamourous relationships?" is much clearer question for me).
@@bigananikagiso6413 Not really, I think most people that go into polyamory relationship are aware of what they want even before they begin the relationship, so they will set up boundaries then and there. But also setting up boundaries and rules is totally normal after the fact (even in a mono relationship) because you might not really know that you were not ok with something until the situation presented itself. Then, you have to work with your partner(s) about how to approach that situation, and I think that can happen in any relationship.
see, i'm not polyamorous and so i have a really hard time understanding some things... for instance, i don't understand it fully when people say "you can't have all of your needs fulfilled by one person." i guess that i've just never expected perfection from a partner. in my personal (emphasis on personal!!!) view of romantic relationships, you gotta realize that no one person can possibly satisfy every single one of your desires. part of a relationship (for me) is learning to deal with flaws, work through rough times, etc etc. imo, if i were to think that way, i'd call myself selfish..... but if poly ppl think differently, that's cool - i'm not calling them selfish. people have different opinions and they should be allowed to do what they want! more power to polyamorous relationships, honestly. i guess i just get confused about this one thing.
The best way to put it (at least for me) it's with friendships. You don't expect to have only one friend who you spend all your time with, and even if some people have a friend that is perfect for them and they're happy for other people it isn't.
I'm non-monogamous and I kinda half-agree with you. I think that many don't word it right, it's less about fulfilling your own needs and more about diverting who you turn to so you can get your needs fulfilled. I'll give you an example: say that I'm going through a very tough time with my career and I need a lot of reassurance/words of affirmation. Partner A may be going through some tough time and need reassurance themself, so they're not able to give me what I need right now because their focus is elsewhere. Partner B, on the other hand, is doing just fine, and so they're able to give me those words of affirmation I need, which in turn allows me to put less pressure on Partner A who's having a hard time. Similarly, Partner A might have their own other partner who's doing great and is able to support them more, which takes off the pressure from ME to support them. I completely agree that in my mind, it's dangerous to expect that some sort of relationship configuration is going to satisfy 100% of your needs. I think that it's important to accept that there will be discomfort, loneliness, etc. in your life. However, I like that I can eventually have a relationship configuration that allows me to receive the help and care that I need without overwhelming one partner. It feels good to not have that sense of guilt, or that worry, that you might be unreasonable or ask too much, and that your needs won't have as big of a negative effect on your partners.
lol let's be real, fulfilling each other's needs just means having sex. they want their cake and to eat it too. if u cant find all your needs with one person, maybe you shouldnt be in a relationship and learn to work on yourself. to me it just implies that one person isnt the one for you. but people can do what they want
@@APurpleFable What I don't understand though - if I have an issue and my partner can't help me with it i turn to a friend or to a family member instead. I never felt the need to have another romantic or sexual partner for that reason. I think that is what confuses people to be honest. The fact that no single person can always only be there for you is true, but that doesn't directly lead to a need for several romantic relationships. It just means people are better of with several people they can rely on for emotional support. (I feel I should say that I don't think polyamory - or monogamy - needs to be "justified" in any way, I think everyone should just be in the type of relationship that suits them best. So I'm not asking this to "debunk" anything or something, I just don't get the logic when people use that as an argument for polyamory.)
I've never really understood polyamory and I probably never will since I desire monogamy, but I think it's extremely cool that that baby is going to have three legal parents to love them. I also want to Google about those three dads because it's so cool that a kid could grow up with multiple legal parents.
I think on paper it sounds nice, but in practice...I feel like raising would be difficult because three different backgrounds, families and thinking will come into play. Its already complicated when its just two parents (even if they are very understanding).
There should be a spectrum episode with asexuals from many different parts of the ace spectrum. Asexuality is rarely represented well, and a spectrum episode could be really informative and maybe helpful. EDIT: it exists now and I highly recommended watching it
yes please. a lot of ace communities I find show me new issues that i've faced and didn't have a name for/ didn't know about or just new perspectives i've never considered before. i'd love to see *drumroll* ace- spec or aro spec love to us all : D
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I wish the Dr would talk more about how he has a child with 1 of his partners. I wanted to know if he felt more of a bond with this 1 partner because of that child than his other partners?
Also adding on to this the 1 partner that was pregnant in this video. What if the other partner wanted a child of her own as well and found out she was infertile. I kind of wonder if a situation like that could harbor animosity or jealousy?
I know polyamorous people who have children with some partner so I might be able to add a bit of perspective. For your first question, having children with a partner does add a facet to the relationship in the sense that you're not just lovers, but also co-parents. But that's one facet, and many relationships can have other facets that this co-parenting relationship doesn't have. It's like having a person with whom you're writing a book, obviously you'll have a special bond because you're working together on a very special project, and you may end up spending a lot of time together, but maybe your other partner is the one you go on trips with because they like travelling as much as you do, and you value their presence in your life just as much. Your second question is an interesting one. I often find that my own jealousy in a relationship stems from my needs not being met. So assuming for a second that I would want children and would realize that I can't have them, I might find myself jealous of my metamour (the other partner of my own partner). But that wouldn't be the metamour's fault. And it'd be unfair to expect them to "fix" my problems. I might however voice my needs to be reassured to my partner, so they can help me work out my own feelings and maybe even find a solution.
@@APurpleFable I guess while I understand there can be other facets that other relationships can provide. I feel there is something about being a co parent that is bonding to such a degree that other facets can never compare to. Like for me I love to go out dancing (before the pandemic) with my dance partner and dance is one of the things that brings me the most joy in my world. I would be so sad without it. But as great as my bond for dance (not even my partner) is, it would just be in no way comparable to my bond for the mother of my hypothetical child if we were still in a relationship. I'm not sure if this is because of a monogamous mindset but for me personally there's this special type of bond that is not comparable. And since the child will always be there, that bond will never go away unlike other bonds. And in regards to being jealous of the metamour and whether it is her fault. Tbh I'm not sure if that's the actual concern for me. If I was her and couldn't have a child I would be more worried about my own mental health. And while a partner may say something to help sooth the reality is there may never be a solution and those feelings will never go away and cause enough friction to end being part of that relationship. I also just find it hard to even know what I would do because unless I'm in that situation I wouldn't know how I would react. So if I were seriously considering a polyamorous relationship and wanted kids in the future; for me considering a scenario like this is important.
@@activelivingchallenger4298 I definitely think that many poly people would agree with you and there are terms employed in this video, such as nesting partner, primary partner, that communicate that hierarchy of bonds. I personally don't adhere to it, but others do and it's 100% valid. Many poly people will have a nesting/primary partner but still engage in other relationships that acknowledge that kind of original couple/thruple/etc. As for the second thing, it's the same as any monogamous relationship. Some couples break up because of a partner's infertility, not because it's a bad thing but just because they can't cope with it. Poly relationships aren't inherently better than monogamous relationships, and can end because of unpredictable circumstances just the same. It's just unrealistic to suppose that poly issues are somehow bigger or less manageable than mono. There are issues that can only arise in one type of relationship, but I think that in the end they're equivalent in terms of risk/reward (beside the societal aspect, there is SO much societal privilege that comes with being married, for example, but that has nothing to do with the relationship itself and everything to do with how society rewards it).
@@APurpleFable tbh I disagree that infertility relationship issues between a monogamous couple and between a polyamorous relationship where 1 couple has a child already and is still fertile is the same. Yes monogmous couples can break up due to infertility but many still stay together because having a biological child is not a priority for them. However in a polyamorous relationship that child is a living reminder of something you can't have, experience or provide to your partner. This to me is different than a divorced couple with kids because in a polyamorous relationship the pair still have feelings for each other and are experiencing everything a coparent of a child in a relationship have. And even if they aren't living together and don't see it, you know. I guess the whole idea with polyamous relationships is 1 partner will be able to provide something another partner can not or you yourself are able to obtain something more from another partner. But for me the difference is how you view the thing you can't provide. If my partner and my dance partner were in a polyamorous relationship and my partner hated dance and knew I loved it, she would be ok with sharing me for that activity. However if my partner found out she can't have children but my dance partner could, that would be very different. And even if she may be ok with it at the present, it wouldn't mean she is ok with it years from now and seeing us being a family together or not ever being able to be a part of things we share. Like an invisible wall that wasn't there before.
Honestly, this video would have been that much more useful and insightful if it started with an introduction from each of them, explaining what sort of relationships they're in. There are so many types of polyamorous relationships it's a bit hard to follow and figure out who's what. Most people also wouldn't even understand all the different types of poly relationships...
Yea that would be dope to get that analysis.. even doper If they had a website and encouraged we get the back story from their site before finishing the RUclips video
I don't like when the guy speaks for the two women though. Like let her show her bump if she wants, let them kiss if they want. Feels very patriarchal.
Id also like to see polyamory vs monogamous relationships. As a monogamous person there’s no way I’d be able to share, but besides that I feel it would cause so many issues.
You're not sharing your partner. Your partner is shar8ng themselves. Ig that's why y'all don't under stand polyamorous relationship. Monogamous people don't own their partners. Jesus.
I think when people hear "polyamory" they think of Mormon relationships where men have multiple wives. They think the stereotypical "men controlling multiple women" that's been hammered into our brains. I'm monogamous, I've been with the love of my life for over 12 years, and I can't imagine living any other way. My relationship makes me happy. That doesn't mean people who are poly can't be happy. They just love and find happiness in a different way than I do. That doesn't make them wrong. I'm glad this is being discussed more.
@Kay B Not really, is like raising a child in an extended family. I dont think it would be harder than raising adopted children. For the poly aspect they just have to explain everything gradually.
@@Zoe-xb6jd and that can also go the same way for same-sex couples, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed to have kids. Children are taught, and if this is the norm for them at a young age then they won’t be confused.
@@thenoseyskeptic congratulations, you disrespect people who have literally done absolutely nothing wrong to you and are not bothering you in the slightest.
I get jealous when i see my friends hang out with other people. I could never be in a polyamourous relationship because I want to be the priority in the couple. It's already difficult to find a faithful and emotionally intelligent partner, and if i find one then i don't wanna share him lol
@@thatgaylibertarian You're throwing around the toxicity and maturity card way too lightly here. More often than not jealousy is rooted in insecurity, not selfishness. We all go through life differently. We all need different things. Some of us need constant re-affirmation, some of us are perfectly secure in our own skin. Both are valid. She's saying "I want to feel prioritized". She's not saying "I'm proud of being that way" or "I think it's okay to be that way". She's just stating what he needs, in this moment in life, for whatever reason that might be. And being so un-empathetic and thinking that you have the universal truth and right to saying what is toxic or mature and what is not, is actually very toxic and immature. Att: A happily polyamorous person.
the Korean girl couple, the other girl was very obviously hurt after the guy said he's more committed to his primary partner. like you can see her hurt. and the green orange guy couple, best couple I've ever seen, sound so healthy so inlove all 3. I love themm
I think the reason people feel like they HAVE to have kids, is because when we were all children it was set as “the norm” and engraved in our minds that we are supposed to.
It’s super weird, people that think like that don’t even make sense when you ask them how is it selfish? The reasons they bring up usually seem selfish on THEIR part - like you don’t want to have mini versions of you? What about your legacy? Like is this about me or the hypothetical child.
@@hentai6582 what makes you think people who don’t want children are only focusing on themselves though? 😂 they could be taking care of someone that is not their child, maybe their partner or a family member - that’s a super weird assumption imo.
I was in the early stages of a relationship with a couple a few months ago, and I definitely understand compersion. There was a moment once, where they were slow dancing in the kitchen--and I was overwhelmed with love, by watching them love each other. I know it's not something that a lot of people experience, but for me it's incredibly fulfilling.
I think the idea of someone being disposable or "less important" or "less committed" repulses me. That's kind of one of the big things that gives me pause with polyamory but then at the same time, monogamous people do this and expect you to prioritize them over friendships and sometimes family.
It is very different for every relationship, and over all the poly community is against the "disposable" thing. But yeah, that mentality isn't new with any type of relationship, it should not be a stigma attached only to polyamory
@@JustJRR Polyamory isn't for everyone. Frankly I think it's generally easier if everyone's gender(s) and sexuality(ies) are such that everyone is at least capable of feeling attraction for everyone. That way everyone in the group has the opportunity for a relationship with anyone in the group. Also communication and rules are essential, far more I think than in monogamous relationships. There needs to be clarity on whether the relationship is open or closed, how the overarching relationship should be structured, how new members are added and what say everyone has on that matter, how disagreements are resolved, etc. It doesn't have all the default assumptions that monogamous relationships have so it requires a lot more conscious effort in its development and in maintaining the health of the relationship as a whole. All that is to say, if you go for a poly relationship, make sure you and everyone involved know what they're getting into and are mature enough to handle it.
@@ASLUHLUHC3 because humans aren’t monogamous by nature. In my opinion I think poly relationships work better if Kept casual. Meaning if the other wants to sleep with someone else, have a threesome or more, or just hang out occasionally that’s fine. Living together dealing with multiple personalities and problems sounds taxing. I also think one partner will inevitably feel inadequate love especially if a monogamous couple brings in another person to that couple who’s been together a long time. Just my opinion though it’s working for them 🤷🏾♂️.
5:55 RIGHT there it is all about communication and honesty. My relationship isn't poly, we're just open so as long as we don't have a secret hook up, it isn't cheating. Cheating is simply doing something you don't tell your partner(s) about, and what that looks like depends on a relationship's boundaries.
my parents have other children, my siblings have other siblings, my friends have other friends, and my future children will have another parent. I just want one relationship where I am the only one to someone, who is the only one to me.
all those half this half that can get messy. I like my house "tidy". I am a dad of 3 ( young dad) . all my kids from the same womb. i don't know people multitask with half siblings , if i had a child outside of this relationship i think i wouldn't be able to track it. i keep my house and my brood exactly where i can see everything supervise everything
just me or does it seems even more romantic to know all of your partner(s) deepest, darkest "secrets" that would probably remain secrets if you're in a monogamous relationship...for example, that you would probably hide from your partner that you find other people attractive??? ... i guess it comes down to your definition of what "love" means, but to me, true love is wanting to know everything about that person and honoring it even if it doesn't include you sometimes? (AND VICE VERSA!) it just feels a bit odd that in certain monogamous relationships, you would still feel that you can't share certain things? like...isn't that YOUR BOO tho???? ❤️
I don't know anyone in a monogamous relationship who feels they have to keep it secret that they find other people attractive :D monogamy doesn't mean you're not allowed to find others attractive, it means that you choose to only have one romantic and sexual partner. Those are two different things...
I totally understand where you’re coming from and it’s not just you. They keep mentioning you know having a different partner for different things which I get to a certain level. Like I used to have certain friends I could talk about manga and kpop with because it was a shared mutual interest. However, I have a best friend who is not super big into kpop but when I was she would still let me talk about it and share it with her. So if I had a boyfriend that are not into the same things I’m into that’s fine but being allowed to talk about it is where the love comes in. Also feel like sex and the freedom to just be with other partners come into play as well.
As someone in a monogamous relationship, my husband and I talk about seeing other people attractive all the time. I’m bi while he’s straight so we’ll comment on women in shows and movies or certain friends, not in a sexual way but just recognizing attractiveness in general. I’ll talk about men too and he just listens since he doesn’t feel that attraction. It’s a very normal part of our relationship because we’re very comfortable with our commitment to each other. I had considered poly before him, it was something I’d been open to for a long time, but he wanted monogamy and that was fine with me.
yes!! a lot of the time the negative stereotype of polyam is that it's two people of the same sex 'sharing' a partner because they aren't attracted to each other. imo you can't really have heterosexual polyamory, since in that case it would just be an open relationship.
I didn't know they are actually exist!!! I thought this kind of stuff only exist in fantasy book or movie. I find this new to me and happy at the same time bc I have the same desire as them. I feel like I'm not alone anymore. It's hard to explain people about my desire so I alway feel like I'm all alone.
Thank you Jubilee for addressing this topic as we polyamorous people do not have many references! I have been dating a couple for 8 months and I feel this is the healthiest, most stable and honest relationship I have ever had in my life. It started as casual sex as they had never dated anyone before and I had never dated a woman before so it was a sweet surprise for all of us to start catching feelings for each other! And now we only date and have sex within our throuple. I didn't know the term compersion but it has definitely resonated to me, because I love watching them kissing and cuddling, zero jelousy. It makes me so happy to see the two people I love the most loving each other!
More problems, but also more solutions. More needs on the table that need to be met, but more skills in the room to meet those needs. It's similar to having an extended family household with grandma, uncles, cousins, whatever. Or to having a community where you share resources like a riding mower, or a car. I have two husbands (since 2009 & 2015) and a boyfriend (since Jan 2021). I've been polyamorous since 2012. Personally, this episode disappointed me, as it really didn't showcase how virtually anything in polyamory works and why. That said, it definitely is not for everyone.
More potential problems for sure... It's relationship hard mode (especially triads). But, it can so be worth it (says the polyamorous woman with 2 long term partners and a polycule made of 7 people in total, including myself and my partners)
these comments are bothering me because everyone feels the need to be like “it’s not for me” as if the video is trying to convince them to be poly??? y’all wouldn’t comment under a ‘do all gay people think the same’ video saying “sorry, i’m heterosexual, it’s not for me🥰” this video is just highlighting the thoughts of people in poly relationships, respect that, show your insight or thoughts but stop thinking that it’s about you
@@spacespye467 these ppl commenting can also very well just not comment if it’s something “not for them” or if they don’t understand polyamory lol. It’s like if I went to a RUclips video about coffee making and just commented “sorry I don’t even like coffee” ..like ok? No one asked.
I think people don't mean it that way tho. For many people this is a new subject and unlike for example homosexuality, polyamory is something basically everyone could consider. I think it makes sense that people watch something and then consider if it's for them. Them sharing their conclusions/opinions in the comments is fine right? Tbh I don't love it when I tell people that I am polyamourous and they tell me "it's not for me" or "wow that's so impressive that you can do that" but it's never ill-intended
Just a reminder to everyone that even if you don’t understand something, it doesn’t make it wrong. Polyamory is what makes some people happy, and the existence of polyamory doesn’t threaten anything or anyone.
No Please, do not make an episode about mysoginistic women who are basically a leftist alternative for „I’m not like other girls” believing that just because they don’t fit into social standards for women they are not one themselves
Ask people who cheat...they're probably polyamorous and didn't know it. I think if more people who have the tendency to cheat checked out polyamory, there would probably be less of an issue with cheating, because then they could have all their needs satisfied by multiple people without relying on one person to do everything. I don't really get it, but I could see polyamory solving a lot of problems actually. Like what college guy wouldn't want like 15 girlfriends?
@@mustafa.talhaaa I didn't mean ALL people who cheat are polyamorous, I'm saying they might be some people who would benefit from polyamory and cheat because they only know about monogamy. I really don't think there is ANY excuse for cheating. If you're not happy in your relationship and you're compelled to cheat, just break up with your partner and then hook up with whoever you were planning to cheat with. You can't just be like "well I'm married but I'm sort of bored so I'm going to sleep with other people". No homie, you either stay committed or you leave. Apparently in polyamorous relationships you can "cheat" as long as you communicate, so those wanting to cheat should try polyamory and not waste the time of people looking for monogamous relationships.
I'm polyam and I personally find this impossible. But to suggest it is impossible for others would be using my personal anecdotal reasoning to make a huge generalisation.
Pretty much is but Polyamorous people will never admit it. They usually will bring up the parents with multiple child argument and that you can love all your kids equally, so why can't you love all your partners equally. When even parents have favorites lol. It's just sugarcoating at the end of the day.
As a polyamorous person, I really dislike that this is polyamorous "couples" and not polyamorous individuals... A relationship isn't polyamorous, a person is IMO.
Well I think they meant it as though when you refer to a relationship with two men, you would call it a gay relationship but that doesn't mean that those men are gay (they could be bisexual, pansexual etc). In the same way you could call each of these relationships polyamorous because there are more than two people consensually involved in that relationship. This is the same as when you would refer to two people dating exclusively as a monogamous relationship. The term polyamorous is being used as a descriptive word here. Sorry if this is hard to read as I'm not really good at explaining things 😅
I think this highlights a thing about polyamory that really helps make it work. Most mono couples seem to think that being in a relationship means you are no longer you, but that together you are one entity. You are now a couple, not two individuals. Polyamory seems to focus more on each person being their own individual. By realizing you are still an individual, it is much easier to stay true to yourself and grow as an individual which will make you better for your partner(s). This also seems to cut down on how much people try to be a different person and sacrifice a part of themselves in order to try to exist as that relationship.
I am usually open-minded and I try not to ever judge cause it isn't my business and this is no exception, it's none of my business, BUT I just can't wrap my head around being okay with sharing someone who is most special to you with someone else and being okay with it. And even that aside, my own personal emotions, I just don't get how it's possible to maintain an equal relationship with multiple people, time-wise and emotionally-wise. Again, I won't go out of my way to judge anyone for this but since this is a video for discussion I just wanted to add something, I guess.
Dont worry you are not alone. I think polyamorous relationships are doomed to fail 90% of the time since human beings generally have a tendency to feel jealousy when their intimate partner becomes intimate with someone else. Plus its almost impossible to be 100% equal towards two partners. At the end of the day someone has to sacrifice for the other partner
@@JoeMama-sd2kl That's why polyamorous people have to be especially skilled at navigating the romantic and sexual dynamics even in a monogamous relationship, so if anything, a polyamorous relationship would be more durable.
@@JoeMama-sd2kl i agree that it is impossible to give all your partners equal attention and time. the thing is though, monogamous pals assume that your partners want equal attention and time, which they often do not. anecdotal example: i personally tend to need way more ‘alone time’, while both of my partners are little needy shits. i love them, and we fulfil parts of each others’ wishes/desires, but it’s more about the utter impossibility of finding ‘the perfect one’ and the ability to love multiple ppl at the same time. love equally or not, again, depends on the relationship.
@@dashofawesome64 I agree with you to a degree. Relationships are natural and happen over time, and you can't force feelings. But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't put yourself out there & take risks and put zero effort into finding one (if you're looking for one). Just don't make it your biggest priority to find one, live your own life, and if you are happy you probably attract others.
"We realised not one person can fulfil all your needs" That's right... but I think the in most cases the solution is just expecting multiple ppl to do so. At some point you gotta realize that's an internal issue.
As a person who has no interest in love or dating i really enjoy hearing the perspective of people who are so different from me. Thank you for sharing.
I was in an open relationship in the past... Somewhat poly when we went long distance. At the time I thought it was my thing, and I would stick with it. But things changed. I got sick and realised I needed stability. I am now happily monogamous but am glad to have seen both worlds.
Just have to face reality. Some people are born extremely attractive, some are born into royal families, wealthy families, some become astronauts, charismatic leaders, some will have multiple sex partners. Life is not fair is why. It's like looking through at a window at something you want but you can't get. Sigh.
@@falconx8719 I'm not talking about being a Millionaire , or a Astronaut... What i'm saying is that ( Very few People died Lonely in this World ). So the Partner of your Life... Or your Soulmate would eventually come and bright up your Future and whatever... That's what its About ✌🏼
I really admire the people who are doing polyamory right because there’s a lot of communications and you have to be honest with yourself and other people so I hope they’re all very happy and congrats to being parents soon to that one trio!!
I think a major difference between mono and poly is this idea of ownership. I'm reading through these comments and a lot of mono ppl are saying things like "I could never share my partner...he's mine...etc* but no, he/she/they isn't. They're their own. Your partner was a whole ass person before they met you, they're a whole ass person now, and they'll be a whole ass person if you break up. You never own your partner. They're never yours in the way some ppl are describing. Like, they're not yours to keep, to share, whatever. A relationship is an agreement of mutual companionship, it's not a binding contract of ownership. Ofc, there are rules and boundaries, which if broken constitute cheating...but you can't look at ppl only as what they are to you, you have to look at them as individuals unto themselves with or without you in the picture. I'm not saying mono isn't a valid form of relationship. I'm just saying some ppl get it twisted, take the jealousy too far, and forget that their partners are still entitled to autonomy.
Ok have you ever heard the phrase “ i am yours and you are mine” . I want to say most monogamous relationship or the people I know in a monogamous relationship don’t see them as a slave. They don’t own their body. When people say “ he or she is mine” they mean we are in an exclusive relationship together . There’s nobody else in the relationship but the two people and nobody is going to come in and ruin that. The “mine” part isn’t really about ownership like their some property. You don’t buy a relationships.
@@jnicole. yes, I get that. What I'm referring to is the "I'm not sharing" as though your partner were something you had the right to share or not share. Exclusively has to be agreed upon and when it is, it's fine. But you have to be able to think of instances where ppl have pushed it too far. "My bf isn't allowed to hang out at other girl's houses?" That's not for you to decide on behalf of your partner. Edit: I'm sure you've heard, "that p*ssy's mine" also, which is equally weird.
@@gakailyn9249 oh so that what you mean. Ok so for your specific example of “ my bf isnt allowed to hang at other girls houses” depends on the situation. So let’s my boyfriend who is still friends with his ex girlfriends and wants to go over there houses. Some women wouldn’t feel comfortable with that and out respect/courtesy will tell their bf not to go over there. Now if your boyfriends was just purely friends with other girls and want to go over their house and the girlfriend “ won’t allow it” don’t trust their boyfriend. And when you don’t trust your boyfriend that leads to a rocky relationship. It’s seems to me the issue your having with monogamous relationships is jealousy. Which is an emotion that even people in polyamorous relationship feel. You have to put that jealousy aside and put trust in your partner and communicate any issue/doubt you’re having.
@@gakailyn9249 also idk but these terminology you are using in your post or comment are coming from people who possessive. Which isn’t necessarily always a bad thing. Some people actually like it when their partners do this some don’t. So like in any relationship communicating is key.
@@jnicole. yeah, I don't feel much jealousy and when it's coming from my partner I tolerate it at best. Possessiveness is a huge red flag to me and I don't tolerate it but that's me. I want to make it clear that I don't have a problem with mono, nearly all of my relationships have been. But in my experience, jealousy leads to control, which leads to being forced to stifle yourself especially in sexual aspects. I agree communication is key and everyone has a preference for the type of relationship they want to be in. I just want ppl to understand that control and possession are not aspects of a healthy relationship and it's hard to see that when ppl have these narratives that the whole "you are mine" thing bypasses being a cute little phrase to being a strongly held belief. To each their own as long as ppl are getting their needs met in.a healthy manner.
I’ve said it for years: people feel so angry towards non monogamy because it triggers them, because they’ve been cheated on in the past and they somehow view non monogamous relationships as validation of cheating. Their very existence threatens monogamous people’s sense of security in a relationship. It’s all rooted in insecurity though
I’m just gonna be real blunt with it..poly ppl/couples can get so annoying. There is far too many poly folk with superiority complex’s who take every opportunity to go on and on about how evolved and mature they are for not getting jealous..etc. I get that lots have chips on the shoulder for being judged but it shouldn’t mean you knock monogamous people or try to play armchair psychologist about how “threatened” monogamous couples are. You don’t have to put monogamy down just to highlight why you like polyamory but unfortunately It’s the route a lot of poly ppl take
love is my love. i think it’s pretty interesting and cool that people are able to love more than one person and still feel connections & attractions w/ the partners. to summarise, i believe that if someone’s heart has enough room for more than one partner that’s truly beautiful! love has no boundaries! lmfao, i remember having a conversation w/ a friend about our thoughts on poly relationships and i had said exactly what i had said above - and so did she. however when she had asked me if i could see myself in one, for some reason when i had said no and explained why, her response seemed kinda disappointed or as if she was offended that i couldn’t see myself in one? i don’t think just because someone cannot see themselves in a poly relationship that they are close-minded. lmao i wish more people would understand that.
I find polyamorous relationships so interesting. I do think that it's a little ridiculous to think that one partner can give you everything you need for the rest of your life, but I also get jealous easily and don't think I could handle sharing my partner with someone else. I know I'm built more for monogamy but I wish I wasn't!
You can do like I do. I'm just not sharing my men, LOL. I have two husbands (since 2009 & 2015) and a boyfriend (since Jan 2021). I've been polyamorous since 2012. ♥ I have some content about polyamory on my channel and will release more in the future. ♥
I feel similarly, but am still exploring open relationships. I've asked the person I'm seeing not to talk to me about their other partners, and thus far I haven't felt much jealousy at all. I try to remind myself that my relationship or bond with this person is unique and shouldn't be compared to their bond with anyone else. We'll see, maybe if things get more serious in the future, my feelings might change and I'll have to accept that I'm meant for monogamy.
@@theprousteffect9717 That sounds like a good way to approach it, one that I may be able to handle with a future serious partner. I hope it all works out for you!
The dude with the two girls with dyed hair should dye his hair red and they could be a traffic light
That would not only be traffic but also terrific
This was too funny lmao
😂😂
I love this XD
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Just because you think it’s wrong to feel jealous doesn’t mean you don’t ever feel it
Jealousy is a very natural human feeling
exactly like jealousy is a human feeling. i don’t know how you can suppress that
@@laura.427 Exactly, it's actually super unhealthy to suppress it, you should discuss it, because because if you don't then you'll just bottle up until it explodeds. Some of this people are acting as if your partner should be able to do everything without boundaries.
i feel like they do get jealous because they were saying its wrong to get jealous but the question was do you get jealous
@Neo Genesis you’re absolutely right. Jealousy fuels nothing but greed and misery. Best to address jealousy rather than let it rule us so that we don’t turn into possessive monsters.
I can’t even do a healthy three people friendship group...
Ngl, this made me chuckle. To relatable.
Honestly 😪
Lol true
Omggg yesss I feel this
Fr though 😂
Coming from someone who had a bad childhood due to accidental pregnancy, I'd say that not having kids if you won't be able to take care of them is very responsible.
Can you explain ...what is a accidental pregnancy if a person is raped and they don't want to keep the baby I understand that but how can you accidentally get pregnant a penis doesn't accidentally make it's way into a vagina
@@blackbutterfly4739 Isnt this obvious? Protection does not guarantee 100% safety. Plus, things like broken condoms or outdated / failed birth control are more common then you think. There are times where people just forget about protection too.
@@unknown_bitch6734 my point exactly so you intentionally had sex but your form of protection didn't work just say that ain't no such thing as no accidental pregnancy I stand corrected
@@blackbutterfly4739 People dont just have sex to have children. Sure its main point is procreation, but people do it for pleasure and relaxation as well seeing that its not always couples doing it. Its also a job for some people.
@@unknown_bitch6734 either sex can lead to pregnancy ...so unless it's rape ...it's on purpose
the girl who said she gets happy when she sees her partner with someone else actually blew my mind
she should date the whole world at the same time, so she can unlock infinite levels of happiness watching all her partners with other people
I think its from the view that if you like that person so much you don't care what it does to you. As he/she is happy your happy. But idk i can be totally of.
@@dashofawesome64 yeah! it’s seeing your partner happy and loved that makes it worth it!
yes but honestly that’s beautiful i don’t know if i personally could do a polyamorous relationship but i would be willing to see how it goes but i would rather just be with in person
If you love somebody and you know that this third person makes him happy in a way you maybe dont even want to make him happy then youre happy because he has somebody.
Its like with friends. Youre not jealous either because your best friend has another best friend. You just share different hobbies and everybody is fine because nobody has to fulfill wishes that you dont like.
Also threesomes or foursomes can be nice
I want to see a woman and 2+ men in a polyamorous relationship. I've noticed that for most polyamorous relationships, it's usually 1 man and multiple women.
Men compete with other men to date women so that would never happen. Multiple men and one women would equal a less likelihood to become a father which is also the issue.
I wonder why...
There was this one case though on True Tv I think where one girl had multiple guys (all nerds) but she got pregnant and one of the dudes killed the child out of jealousy or he was mentally unstable already.
I’m neighbors with a poly couple like this & they seem fairly average lol they have kids & are super nice
I know plenty of polyam women who have multiple male partners. When I was polyam, I did notice one potential partner was incredibly territorial and overly possessive and it was never going to work out.
all these people here dating multiple people, I cant even get one person to date me
F
Then just date someone
@@Errupt wow you’re genius
@@abolfazlkheradmand6421 thank you
its because they dont have standards they just date anyone that fits the polynomalikalakai category
Now we need a “Do children of poly couples think the same”
That would be definitely interesting!
omg yess i'm down to see that
Where's CPS?
@@TheDragonForest exactly. Get CPS
@@notfunny1410 your username fits you 😍
You know when you’re friends with two people and you just know that you are the least liked friend? Imagine that but with people who are dating 💀
Oof I already hate being the background friend with friendships so I couldn't really imagine it with relationships lol
Tbh I would rather be alone than experience that every day, feeling miserable and worthless. Thanks.
1) Find better friends if they're doing anything that makes you feel that
2) Polyamory doesn't automatically mean you must be part of a thrupple
3) Don't be poly with people who don't make you feel valued
@@theprousteffect9717 You put that WAAY more succinctly than I could have. I was fixing to write paragraphs to get those points out and you summed it all beautifully lol
When you think you dont deserve as much love as others, that you would probably enjoy being the less liked partner.
First questions responses were very misleading. They do get jealous but don’t act on it. So you admit you do get jealous.
Exactly... Nothing is perfectly balanced
We get taught jealousy, it's everywhere even in kids shows. So it's pretty unlikely that someone has completely deconstructed their jealousy
Jealousy is a normal human reaction, we dont need to learn it
@@monicacreator3168 yes but we get taught to act on it or to exaggerate it. Kids are jealous of their toys but we teach them to share
They feel jealous but they don't act jealous. I think it was unclear whether "get" implied "feel" or "act"
The first girl literally walked over to disagree about getting jealous.
Her: "Yeah I do get jealous occasionally."
Lol
Maybe she’s afraid that she might be the odd one out.
I think she went there because of the principle behind jealousy not because she feels it (so like you can feel jealous but the principle of lashing out on your partner because of that jealousy) idk if I explained that well or not but yh
Yeah. She didn’t go to strongly disagree
Thats not the point. The point is she knows that it can happen but she works on it and knows that situations can be sometimes like that. But that doesnt mean their relationship is constantly like that or that she doesnt enjoy it.
Its like with pizza. You may love pizza but there are times where you just doesnt want it without hating it.
I love how for the jealousy question, they all went to “disagree” but then they go on to explain that they do get jealous.
The biggest cope, they all get jealous and these people literally have to neuter their natural emotions and damage their psychy to be actually "ok" with all this garbage
Yeah that was weird
That's why they said "disagree" and not "strongly disagree".
I just want to add that it is NEVER selfish to choose not to have kids in order to pursue your career.
(At 6:39 the lady states that it is kind of selfish on their part to want to focus on their career instead of kids, in case anyone was confused as to why I said this)
Yeah just don't choose your kids over ur career of u have any
But it is selfish if you neglect your kids after having them😂.
But on the other hand by complete birth control, you are helping the world by being those people who not contributing to overpopulation, which in turn is exploiting the earth's resources. So it's always better to not conceive any kids at all for the world.
It ain't selfish if noone is involved. It becomes selfish as soon as you bring a tiny human in your life.
Yeah it's just more practical than neglecting your kids for work all the time
That's how you avoid living through your children (because you've done what you've always wanted to do)
And you won't resent your kids when you see them do what you've always wanted to do.
It is NEVER selfish!
Never is a strong word tho
I feel bad that the Korean lady even had to say that it’s selfish not to want kids (which is not true btw) bc society has brainwashed us into thinking that having children is mandatory ://
Exactly! Do what you want get a career, work, be a stay at home mom, have kids or don't, the choice is yours! Those people who think women need to have kids can go float themselves.
Except that her reasons for not wanting kids are purely selfish. Which isn't a bad thing, it's just a thing that is true.
@@MrsRen Except you're completely wrong because the definition of being selfish is to be excessively concerned with oneself WITHOUT ANY REGARD FOR OTHERS, which is not what's happening here. There is absolutely nothing selfish about not wanting to have kids.
@@Ayveh PREACH, there is zero moral obligation for us as human beings to have kids. It's a personal choice, which means it isn't selfish whatsoever to choose to be childfree.
@@MrsRen The drive to have children is actually just as much ( if not more) selfish than not wanting children. Wanting to have kids comes from the biological drive to spread your genetic material so a "peice of you" lives on, so to speak and a want to have a family.
Could have been helpful to start off with a presentation of them and their relationship structure so it would be clear what kind of polyamorous relationship they each had. Nice video nevertheless, it's great that Jubilee is covering this topic!
This!
The title said "Polyamorous Couples", I wouldn't expect too much given that one of them is literally a triad
@@TPHRyan there’s different types of poly relationships
Strongly agree
Lift this up. I wanna know more
👏NOT👏WANTING👏CHILDREN👏IS👏NEVER👏SELFISH👏
AGREED!!! And I have two...lol
it can be the opposite of selfish! realizing that you dont have the time or resources to give them the life they would deserve.
It depends. Never? No. Individual? No. In general? yes.
Like why should we have to. There’s 7 billion other people on the earth
Sometimes it's selfish.
I have a softspot for Ingrid. Obviously this video isn't a full picture of their relationship, but I hope Ingrid has found/will find what she's looking for.
Same. Her facial expressions were telling.
Yeah, she seems a bit like an outsider here.
i think she was curious if anything but i honestly dont think polyamory is for her
Did any of you noticed how sad she looked when the guy said the other girl is his primary partner and he built his life with her? I am not polyamorous but to me it looks more like she´s not so important in the relationship and that´s what might be hurting her, that perhaps she doesn't deserve as much love as the others have for each other
Me too ... I don't think she's completely happy , plus she didn't look very happy.
polymorphic relationships are fine as long as everyone in the relationship knows what type of relationship their in, if they don't know their partner is that type of person and is dating multiple people ,it's cheating.
I'm non-monogamous and you're 110% right. What makes it cheating is not having every party's enthusiastic consent. I'd even argue that "insisting" that your partner and you become non-monogamous is just not ok. It needs to be something that everyone wants and enjoys.
Also when you bring someone new into the picture, everyone has to be ok with you 2 being together or the new person being with the others.
@@shaereub4450 I'd say that that depends on the relationship. I don't have a say in my partner's other partners, and he doesn't have any on mine either (unless they're really awful people, that's a separate issue). But that really depends.
@@APurpleFable facts tho I'm a monogamous person you are correct. Every relationship including poly are different. Some choose and be with their partners only and some like you have a don't ask don't tell. It's all about communication and treating everyone kindly and how you want to be treated. Again like you stated don't force others into anything.
if there are secrets being kept, that's not true polyamory.
I really like the vibe of Sonia and Gabriel’s relationship. They seem like they communicate well and make each other happy
I loved that too! I think after fourteen years, they really must know each other so well that they completely trust each other. It makes me so happy to see it
They were so cute. I want a relationship like them when I grow up.
You definitely can cheat in ANY relationship, poly or not, if you disrespect boundaries or lie. So saying it's not possible to cheat seems like an excuse to not take responsibility for all your relationships.
Yep. Honestly, if you've promised your partner(s) that you would stop gambling and then sneak off to a casino, isn't that cheating?
@@maxmichalik4938 it is. Those discussions have to be discussed beforehand
Yeah, if you didn't know about external partners of your partner and they never disclosed it then it's definitely cheating. Being open and communicating is the key to EVERY relationship, but more so for polyaromorous. It affects not only you but others in relationship too. Hiding your partner from another partner, not disclosing it is cheating. You're with person that doesn't even know existence of other partners which is bad asf. Just knowing name and fact that there's other partners is okay (to each their own, some, including me, rather have kitchen table)
Morals aside I think adding more people into a relationship makes it more and more complicated. Not impossible, just more challenging and likely for things to go wrong. If people can handle that, power to them but personally I know I couldn't.
A lot of people don’t hence why people usually stay and do monogamous relationships.
I've heard from others that it does take more maturity and commitment from all parties to pull off.
Why do so many people point out how hard it is to manage such a relationship?
Communication is key in every relationship and I guess most people who point out this thing can't even communicate openly themselves and that's why those people not just 'dont want to do it' itd about that they simply can't because of their own insecurities
@@sleepymaddy7659 I think you answered your own question. Communication can be really difficult. Even the most open couple can have communication problems in time and most everyone has their own insecurities whether they care to admit it or not.
Is it any different than having a big family? That's adding more people.
Can we get “ do all married couples think the same” with a center focus on marriage issues.
Yes! And to add to make sure they get inclusive (flf,mlm,nblf,tlm,etc) and add different racial couples, plus adding ones that have couples with totally different cultures! (I know they can’t add everything but I would like to see some inclusivity of different cultures/religion/race/sexual orientation) I feel it’s gonna be a mad good discussion, u know??!
lildevil angelme that’d be like 20+ couples, y’all are too much
@@Viviele1290 😂
I am a monogamous person and do not understand this lifestyle at all. However, I appreciate it being highlighted by Jubilee. Still don’t feel like I understand open-relationships any more so though. 😅
@@roach9232 what's the difference?
@@roach9232 whats the difference
@@roach9232 so every open relationship is polyamerus but not every polyamerus relationship is a open relationship
@@roach9232 I was so confused when the vid started coz that's what I knew and I didn't expect most of the ppl here to be in open relationships but most them are.
@@eunhyefloe8055 agree! the term polyamory is so often misunderstood as "open relationship" by default and I wish they'd been more clear about how every relationship of the people in this video worked? idk but I'm still confused about how the puerto rican and korean couple were involved with that other woman ahaha she didn't say much eiter
The person jumping the gun to "strongly disagree" with wanting kids is a mood
So, there are like
1) couples in which each partner has other partners
2) couples that let somebody slides in between them sometimes, but they are each others primary partner
3) and three persons equally commited to each other
4) me and my cats
Lmao im number 4 too
Hahaha
Triouples are 3 , the Dr.Justin the tall black dude in this video had 3 Women ( Meaning they are all 4 in a Relationship )... Quadouples actually 😅 not just 3 people in relation ships..... There's also 5 ( 1 Man and 4 Women in a relationship aswell ).
Basically anything is possible, every relationship and every person is different. But I do think the best relationship I have is me with my cat :b
I don’t understand why is there a single person in couples group thing hahha like come on jubilee
I couldn't stop looking at Summer and Cha Cha's hair. The colours compliment each other really well.
I'm kind of disappointed in the responses to the "can you cheat in a polyamourous relationship", nobody brought up one of the fundamentals of polyamourous relationships : boundaries and rules. Polyamourous relationship are not just "you can do whatever you want", it's all about communication and setting rules/boundaries. I mean, there can be polyamourous relationships where they just allow everything, but that would be because they discussed it and agreed on it. Most polyamourous relationships have rules to make it work. And breaking the rules you agreed on with it partner(s) is cheating.
But isn't that how a polyamorous relationship starts in the beginning? At first, it was 2 people then another partner got into the picture so then the 2 partners have to come to an agreement then the cycle repeats. So I dont think a polyamorous relationship allows boundaries or rules because it prevents partners from exploring and finding more partners to fulfill their needs
@@bigananikagiso6413 boundaries and rules can be as simple as “if you develop feelings for someone, please communicate that to me before you pursue that relationship so i know what’s happening.” it can be “let me know if you have the intention of having sex with someone tonight.” it can be “keep me in the loop on all of your partners and get tested regularly with me so we can make sure we’re all being safe.” boundaries don’t have to be limits. they can be expectations for communication.
my partner and i are currently monogamous with the understanding that if either of us develop feelings for someone outside of the relationship, we will communicate that and go from there. for me, if my partner develops feelings, i know i’ll be okay with that. i’m polyamorous by nature so i wouldn’t feel jealous over my partner pursuing someone else. i just want to be made aware before it happens.
@SaErth2 I'm really disappointed too. Especially with the example the korean lady said, maybe she can go in a situation like that guilt free but if she knows the person she's with is cheating on their spouse and has no issues with it... You're still cheating. It takes two.
Same, I was pretty shocked too. I mean the wording of the question itself is a bit confusing as well ("Is cheating acceptable in polyamourous relationships?" is much clearer question for me).
@@bigananikagiso6413 Not really, I think most people that go into polyamory relationship are aware of what they want even before they begin the relationship, so they will set up boundaries then and there. But also setting up boundaries and rules is totally normal after the fact (even in a mono relationship) because you might not really know that you were not ok with something until the situation presented itself. Then, you have to work with your partner(s) about how to approach that situation, and I think that can happen in any relationship.
Summer, Jimmy and Cha Cha look like they’re about to record one of the top billboard singles of 1998 and I’m here for it.
“Polyamorous in principle, not polyamorous in numbers” I felt that. Its more of who you are, not just something you’re doing.
see, i'm not polyamorous and so i have a really hard time understanding some things... for instance, i don't understand it fully when people say "you can't have all of your needs fulfilled by one person." i guess that i've just never expected perfection from a partner. in my personal (emphasis on personal!!!) view of romantic relationships, you gotta realize that no one person can possibly satisfy every single one of your desires. part of a relationship (for me) is learning to deal with flaws, work through rough times, etc etc. imo, if i were to think that way, i'd call myself selfish..... but if poly ppl think differently, that's cool - i'm not calling them selfish. people have different opinions and they should be allowed to do what they want! more power to polyamorous relationships, honestly. i guess i just get confused about this one thing.
The best way to put it (at least for me) it's with friendships. You don't expect to have only one friend who you spend all your time with, and even if some people have a friend that is perfect for them and they're happy for other people it isn't.
I'm non-monogamous and I kinda half-agree with you. I think that many don't word it right, it's less about fulfilling your own needs and more about diverting who you turn to so you can get your needs fulfilled. I'll give you an example: say that I'm going through a very tough time with my career and I need a lot of reassurance/words of affirmation. Partner A may be going through some tough time and need reassurance themself, so they're not able to give me what I need right now because their focus is elsewhere. Partner B, on the other hand, is doing just fine, and so they're able to give me those words of affirmation I need, which in turn allows me to put less pressure on Partner A who's having a hard time. Similarly, Partner A might have their own other partner who's doing great and is able to support them more, which takes off the pressure from ME to support them.
I completely agree that in my mind, it's dangerous to expect that some sort of relationship configuration is going to satisfy 100% of your needs. I think that it's important to accept that there will be discomfort, loneliness, etc. in your life. However, I like that I can eventually have a relationship configuration that allows me to receive the help and care that I need without overwhelming one partner. It feels good to not have that sense of guilt, or that worry, that you might be unreasonable or ask too much, and that your needs won't have as big of a negative effect on your partners.
lol let's be real, fulfilling each other's needs just means having sex. they want their cake and to eat it too. if u cant find all your needs with one person, maybe you shouldnt be in a relationship and learn to work on yourself. to me it just implies that one person isnt the one for you. but people can do what they want
@@APurpleFable What I don't understand though - if I have an issue and my partner can't help me with it i turn to a friend or to a family member instead. I never felt the need to have another romantic or sexual partner for that reason. I think that is what confuses people to be honest. The fact that no single person can always only be there for you is true, but that doesn't directly lead to a need for several romantic relationships. It just means people are better of with several people they can rely on for emotional support. (I feel I should say that I don't think polyamory - or monogamy - needs to be "justified" in any way, I think everyone should just be in the type of relationship that suits them best. So I'm not asking this to "debunk" anything or something, I just don't get the logic when people use that as an argument for polyamory.)
@@peaceblossom8 Completely agree.
I've never really understood polyamory and I probably never will since I desire monogamy, but I think it's extremely cool that that baby is going to have three legal parents to love them. I also want to Google about those three dads because it's so cool that a kid could grow up with multiple legal parents.
That's disgusting, you should not be praising that
@@IzzyChopChop how is it disgusting?
@@IzzyChopChop How is it different from being raised by a big extended family? what damage could it cause?
I think on paper it sounds nice, but in practice...I feel like raising would be difficult because three different backgrounds, families and thinking will come into play. Its already complicated when its just two parents (even if they are very understanding).
It is quite an interesting legal question - it seems to vary state by state
There should be a spectrum episode with asexuals from many different parts of the ace spectrum. Asexuality is rarely represented well, and a spectrum episode could be really informative and maybe helpful.
EDIT: it exists now and I highly recommended watching it
yes please
This
yes please. a lot of ace communities I find show me new issues that i've faced and didn't have a name for/ didn't know about or just new perspectives i've never considered before. i'd love to see *drumroll* ace- spec
or aro spec love to us all : D
Please !!!
It exists now!
"When she get mad, i get mad too"
Prepare for trouble, and make it double!
😂😂
Sounds like something a yter named drumsy would say
@ CTJR it’s from Pokémon-
@@ivyturner5909 it’s totally mind boggling that everybody hasn’t watched Pokémon⚫️
Team rocket, on the go! (I totally forgot what’s next-)
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I wish the Dr would talk more about how he has a child with 1 of his partners. I wanted to know if he felt more of a bond with this 1 partner because of that child than his other partners?
Also adding on to this the 1 partner that was pregnant in this video. What if the other partner wanted a child of her own as well and found out she was infertile. I kind of wonder if a situation like that could harbor animosity or jealousy?
I know polyamorous people who have children with some partner so I might be able to add a bit of perspective. For your first question, having children with a partner does add a facet to the relationship in the sense that you're not just lovers, but also co-parents. But that's one facet, and many relationships can have other facets that this co-parenting relationship doesn't have. It's like having a person with whom you're writing a book, obviously you'll have a special bond because you're working together on a very special project, and you may end up spending a lot of time together, but maybe your other partner is the one you go on trips with because they like travelling as much as you do, and you value their presence in your life just as much.
Your second question is an interesting one. I often find that my own jealousy in a relationship stems from my needs not being met. So assuming for a second that I would want children and would realize that I can't have them, I might find myself jealous of my metamour (the other partner of my own partner). But that wouldn't be the metamour's fault. And it'd be unfair to expect them to "fix" my problems. I might however voice my needs to be reassured to my partner, so they can help me work out my own feelings and maybe even find a solution.
@@APurpleFable I guess while I understand there can be other facets that other relationships can provide. I feel there is something about being a co parent that is bonding to such a degree that other facets can never compare to.
Like for me I love to go out dancing (before the pandemic) with my dance partner and dance is one of the things that brings me the most joy in my world. I would be so sad without it. But as great as my bond for dance (not even my partner) is, it would just be in no way comparable to my bond for the mother of my hypothetical child if we were still in a relationship.
I'm not sure if this is because of a monogamous mindset but for me personally there's this special type of bond that is not comparable. And since the child will always be there, that bond will never go away unlike other bonds.
And in regards to being jealous of the metamour and whether it is her fault. Tbh I'm not sure if that's the actual concern for me. If I was her and couldn't have a child I would be more worried about my own mental health. And while a partner may say something to help sooth the reality is there may never be a solution and those feelings will never go away and cause enough friction to end being part of that relationship. I also just find it hard to even know what I would do because unless I'm in that situation I wouldn't know how I would react. So if I were seriously considering a polyamorous relationship and wanted kids in the future; for me considering a scenario like this is important.
@@activelivingchallenger4298 I definitely think that many poly people would agree with you and there are terms employed in this video, such as nesting partner, primary partner, that communicate that hierarchy of bonds. I personally don't adhere to it, but others do and it's 100% valid. Many poly people will have a nesting/primary partner but still engage in other relationships that acknowledge that kind of original couple/thruple/etc.
As for the second thing, it's the same as any monogamous relationship. Some couples break up because of a partner's infertility, not because it's a bad thing but just because they can't cope with it. Poly relationships aren't inherently better than monogamous relationships, and can end because of unpredictable circumstances just the same. It's just unrealistic to suppose that poly issues are somehow bigger or less manageable than mono. There are issues that can only arise in one type of relationship, but I think that in the end they're equivalent in terms of risk/reward (beside the societal aspect, there is SO much societal privilege that comes with being married, for example, but that has nothing to do with the relationship itself and everything to do with how society rewards it).
@@APurpleFable tbh I disagree that infertility relationship issues between a monogamous couple and between a polyamorous relationship where 1 couple has a child already and is still fertile is the same. Yes monogmous couples can break up due to infertility but many still stay together because having a biological child is not a priority for them.
However in a polyamorous relationship that child is a living reminder of something you can't have, experience or provide to your partner. This to me is different than a divorced couple with kids because in a polyamorous relationship the pair still have feelings for each other and are experiencing everything a coparent of a child in a relationship have. And even if they aren't living together and don't see it, you know.
I guess the whole idea with polyamous relationships is 1 partner will be able to provide something another partner can not or you yourself are able to obtain something more from another partner. But for me the difference is how you view the thing you can't provide. If my partner and my dance partner were in a polyamorous relationship and my partner hated dance and knew I loved it, she would be ok with sharing me for that activity. However if my partner found out she can't have children but my dance partner could, that would be very different. And even if she may be ok with it at the present, it wouldn't mean she is ok with it years from now and seeing us being a family together or not ever being able to be a part of things we share. Like an invisible wall that wasn't there before.
Honestly, this video would have been that much more useful and insightful if it started with an introduction from each of them, explaining what sort of relationships they're in. There are so many types of polyamorous relationships it's a bit hard to follow and figure out who's what. Most people also wouldn't even understand all the different types of poly relationships...
Yea that would be dope to get that analysis.. even doper If they had a website and encouraged we get the back story from their site before finishing the RUclips video
I don't like when the guy speaks for the two women though. Like let her show her bump if she wants, let them kiss if they want. Feels very patriarchal.
i think he was just excited to share the fact that he's going to be a dad
@@kaitlinwilson2 no doubt abt that, as he should be! it's exciting but that wasn't really the basis of my point.
Yeah im only halfway through but it feels like HE is dating 2 women and not the three of THEM dating ? Idk if it makes sense
Orange head girl spoke the most but go ahead and hate the guy
Exactly. Very patriarchal.
Id also like to see polyamory vs monogamous relationships. As a monogamous person there’s no way I’d be able to share, but besides that I feel it would cause so many issues.
If they are happy thats all that matters
They already made that one tho?
You don't share your partner , they share themselves lol
You're not sharing your partner. Your partner is shar8ng themselves. Ig that's why y'all don't under stand polyamorous relationship. Monogamous people don't own their partners. Jesus.
@@AndysNuWorld I came here to say just that. :)
these are some of the most open minded people. it’s honestly so admirable
I think when people hear "polyamory" they think of Mormon relationships where men have multiple wives. They think the stereotypical "men controlling multiple women" that's been hammered into our brains. I'm monogamous, I've been with the love of my life for over 12 years, and I can't imagine living any other way. My relationship makes me happy. That doesn't mean people who are poly can't be happy. They just love and find happiness in a different way than I do. That doesn't make them wrong. I'm glad this is being discussed more.
But that's not polyamory. It's polygamy
I don’t think anyone still thinks that in 2024
It’s not for me I’m monogamous but I still respect it. ✨✨✨✨✨✨
I dont respect it. The kids they'll raise will be all sorts of confused 🤦🏾♀️
@@thenoseyskeptic You cannot assume that. They will learn everything they have to learn about their parents gradually.
@Kay B Not really, is like raising a child in an extended family. I dont think it would be harder than raising adopted children. For the poly aspect they just have to explain everything gradually.
@@Zoe-xb6jd and that can also go the same way for same-sex couples, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed to have kids. Children are taught, and if this is the norm for them at a young age then they won’t be confused.
@@thenoseyskeptic congratulations, you disrespect people who have literally done absolutely nothing wrong to you and are not bothering you in the slightest.
I get jealous when i see my friends hang out with other people. I could never be in a polyamourous relationship because I want to be the priority in the couple. It's already difficult to find a faithful and emotionally intelligent partner, and if i find one then i don't wanna share him lol
Same, I have 2 friends and they often together, they sometimes ignore me too.
That blows my mind lol
wow you sound so mature and not toxic at all
@@thatgaylibertarian You're throwing around the toxicity and maturity card way too lightly here. More often than not jealousy is rooted in insecurity, not selfishness. We all go through life differently. We all need different things. Some of us need constant re-affirmation, some of us are perfectly secure in our own skin. Both are valid. She's saying "I want to feel prioritized". She's not saying "I'm proud of being that way" or "I think it's okay to be that way". She's just stating what he needs, in this moment in life, for whatever reason that might be. And being so un-empathetic and thinking that you have the universal truth and right to saying what is toxic or mature and what is not, is actually very toxic and immature.
Att: A happily polyamorous person.
I agreee! Like the one I love is mine and im theirs, i feel like that's the explanation of love. But ig things are different today..
the Korean girl couple, the other girl was very obviously hurt after the guy said he's more committed to his primary partner. like you can see her hurt.
and the green orange guy couple, best couple I've ever seen, sound so healthy so inlove all 3. I love themm
It’s not selfish to not have kids…. Like why does everyone feel that they need to have kids. Ugh…..
Thank you...I was thinking the same while watching.
I think the reason people feel like they HAVE to have kids, is because when we were all children it was set as “the norm” and engraved in our minds that we are supposed to.
focusing only on yourself is the definition of being selfish.
It’s super weird, people that think like that don’t even make sense when you ask them how is it selfish? The reasons they bring up usually seem selfish on THEIR part - like you don’t want to have mini versions of you? What about your legacy? Like is this about me or the hypothetical child.
@@hentai6582 what makes you think people who don’t want children are only focusing on themselves though? 😂 they could be taking care of someone that is not their child, maybe their partner or a family member - that’s a super weird assumption imo.
I was in the early stages of a relationship with a couple a few months ago, and I definitely understand compersion. There was a moment once, where they were slow dancing in the kitchen--and I was overwhelmed with love, by watching them love each other. I know it's not something that a lot of people experience, but for me it's incredibly fulfilling.
That's so sad
That beautiful
that’s adorable wtfff
@@jesusa1328 sad? Lol it’s beautiful tbh
It’s a crazy ass feeling. Overwhelming. I get you. Hard to get others to understand tho lol
I think the idea of someone being disposable or "less important" or "less committed" repulses me. That's kind of one of the big things that gives me pause with polyamory but then at the same time, monogamous people do this and expect you to prioritize them over friendships and sometimes family.
It is very different for every relationship, and over all the poly community is against the "disposable" thing. But yeah, that mentality isn't new with any type of relationship, it should not be a stigma attached only to polyamory
@@fish_who_drowned3378 Thanks for this comment. I'm going to try to learn more and seriously consider it.
@@JustJRR Polyamory isn't for everyone. Frankly I think it's generally easier if everyone's gender(s) and sexuality(ies) are such that everyone is at least capable of feeling attraction for everyone. That way everyone in the group has the opportunity for a relationship with anyone in the group.
Also communication and rules are essential, far more I think than in monogamous relationships. There needs to be clarity on whether the relationship is open or closed, how the overarching relationship should be structured, how new members are added and what say everyone has on that matter, how disagreements are resolved, etc. It doesn't have all the default assumptions that monogamous relationships have so it requires a lot more conscious effort in its development and in maintaining the health of the relationship as a whole.
All that is to say, if you go for a poly relationship, make sure you and everyone involved know what they're getting into and are mature enough to handle it.
@@citrineconjurer thanks!
I agree everyone is important
My jealous a** wouldn't let me do this 😂😂 Great informative video though
Be thankful you're normal, mate. No sane person would be able to do this.
@@epicaunleashed8764 Many "sane" people can, and do. It is personal preference.
Ass*
@@epicaunleashed8764 So why do most normal people in monogamous relationships desire affairs?
@@ASLUHLUHC3 because humans aren’t monogamous by nature. In my opinion I think poly relationships work better if Kept casual. Meaning if the other wants to sleep with someone else, have a threesome or more, or just hang out occasionally that’s fine. Living together dealing with multiple personalities and problems sounds taxing. I also think one partner will inevitably feel inadequate love especially if a monogamous couple brings in another person to that couple who’s been together a long time. Just my opinion though it’s working for them 🤷🏾♂️.
5:55 RIGHT there it is all about communication and honesty. My relationship isn't poly, we're just open so as long as we don't have a secret hook up, it isn't cheating. Cheating is simply doing something you don't tell your partner(s) about, and what that looks like depends on a relationship's boundaries.
my parents have other children, my siblings have other siblings, my friends have other friends, and my future children will have another parent. I just want one relationship where I am the only one to someone, who is the only one to me.
all those half this half that can get messy. I like my house "tidy". I am a dad of 3 ( young dad) . all my kids from the same womb. i don't know people multitask with half siblings , if i had a child outside of this relationship i think i wouldn't be able to track it. i keep my house and my brood exactly where i can see everything supervise everything
Same, but I feel like in this world such thing is intangible.
Ok? Congrats?
Interesting, this statement felt really odd to me but it's just our different preferences.
Same!
just me or does it seems even more romantic to know all of your partner(s) deepest, darkest "secrets" that would probably remain secrets if you're in a monogamous relationship...for example, that you would probably hide from your partner that you find other people attractive??? ... i guess it comes down to your definition of what "love" means, but to me, true love is wanting to know everything about that person and honoring it even if it doesn't include you sometimes? (AND VICE VERSA!) it just feels a bit odd that in certain monogamous relationships, you would still feel that you can't share certain things? like...isn't that YOUR BOO tho???? ❤️
I don't know anyone in a monogamous relationship who feels they have to keep it secret that they find other people attractive :D monogamy doesn't mean you're not allowed to find others attractive, it means that you choose to only have one romantic and sexual partner. Those are two different things...
I totally understand where you’re coming from and it’s not just you. They keep mentioning you know having a different partner for different things which I get to a certain level. Like I used to have certain friends I could talk about manga and kpop with because it was a shared mutual interest. However, I have a best friend who is not super big into kpop but when I was she would still let me talk about it and share it with her. So if I had a boyfriend that are not into the same things I’m into that’s fine but being allowed to talk about it is where the love comes in. Also feel like sex and the freedom to just be with other partners come into play as well.
Yo Damon I've seen you brush around poly and open relationships multiple times, will you ever talk about it in a red wine talk or vlog?
Te amo Damon
As someone in a monogamous relationship, my husband and I talk about seeing other people attractive all the time. I’m bi while he’s straight so we’ll comment on women in shows and movies or certain friends, not in a sexual way but just recognizing attractiveness in general. I’ll talk about men too and he just listens since he doesn’t feel that attraction. It’s a very normal part of our relationship because we’re very comfortable with our commitment to each other. I had considered poly before him, it was something I’d been open to for a long time, but he wanted monogamy and that was fine with me.
Minal is so pretty wtf
*manal & yes she’s gorgeous
I ain't never seen a pretty polyamorous couple
@@juliencotton3095 lmao shade 🤭
Yaaaz
She looks like Lilly Collins
oh all the reaction channels about to have a field day with this one lmaooo
Wish you would’ve asked if they were willing to have a same sex partner. Would’ve been curious to hear from the men specifically on that
Mariah but would you tho ?
why does it matter if someone is gay to you? That is their decision and does not really pertain to polyam.
Why would a straight guy want to have a same sex partner that makes no sense
yes!! a lot of the time the negative stereotype of polyam is that it's two people of the same sex 'sharing' a partner because they aren't attracted to each other. imo you can't really have heterosexual polyamory, since in that case it would just be an open relationship.
@@bumblerbree what- yes, you can have heterosexual polyamory?? what??
When the voice said: I want children
The girl moved so quickly to strongly disagree place, and I feel you!!
I got jealous just watching this
Me!!!!
Oh god same. I almost didn't watch it because I lowkey get triggered and envious by polyamorous relationships.
@@Solidude4 same here😭 but I respect them tho. It's their personal choice
Deadass tho
6:39 I think it’s never selfish to decide not to have kids. Selfish is when people who don’t want to have kids have them.
Yes. Thank you for being rational, this comment section is slowly draining my sanity, thank you. I'm gonna go die now.
I didn't know they are actually exist!!! I thought this kind of stuff only exist in fantasy book or movie. I find this new to me and happy at the same time bc I have the same desire as them. I feel like I'm not alone anymore. It's hard to explain people about my desire so I alway feel like I'm all alone.
Speak your truth always. Lying go so far. I’m glad you’re finding the right information. I’m on the right path for it now.
im happy you found out who you are :D
Congrats! I can really recommend the Multiamory podcast if you want to learn more
That's great! I'm glad I'm not the only one too, it's relieving to know :)
Desire is not the same as love
I didnt even know you could put multiple names on the birth certificate!!! thats so interesting
Same! I thought that was super cool!
I'm calling my representative to make that illegal
@@IzzyChopChop ok...?
@@IzzyChopChop good luck looser
Whoever makes these intros deserves a raise.
Thank you Jubilee for addressing this topic as we polyamorous people do not have many references! I have been dating a couple for 8 months and I feel this is the healthiest, most stable and honest relationship I have ever had in my life. It started as casual sex as they had never dated anyone before and I had never dated a woman before so it was a sweet surprise for all of us to start catching feelings for each other! And now we only date and have sex within our throuple.
I didn't know the term compersion but it has definitely resonated to me, because I love watching them kissing and cuddling, zero jelousy. It makes me so happy to see the two people I love the most loving each other!
I personally think more partners = more problems, so props to them for working it out
Sooner or later there will always be drama.
@@Funaru the same can be said for monogamous relationships though.
More problems, but also more solutions. More needs on the table that need to be met, but more skills in the room to meet those needs. It's similar to having an extended family household with grandma, uncles, cousins, whatever. Or to having a community where you share resources like a riding mower, or a car. I have two husbands (since 2009 & 2015) and a boyfriend (since Jan 2021). I've been polyamorous since 2012. Personally, this episode disappointed me, as it really didn't showcase how virtually anything in polyamory works and why. That said, it definitely is not for everyone.
More potential problems for sure... It's relationship hard mode (especially triads). But, it can so be worth it (says the polyamorous woman with 2 long term partners and a polycule made of 7 people in total, including myself and my partners)
@@athenaamethyst8385 can you tell me what you mean by polycule? I'm recently polyamourous and I haven't learnt all the lingo yet
these comments are bothering me because everyone feels the need to be like “it’s not for me” as if the video is trying to convince them to be poly??? y’all wouldn’t comment under a ‘do all gay people think the same’ video saying “sorry, i’m heterosexual, it’s not for me🥰” this video is just highlighting the thoughts of people in poly relationships, respect that, show
your insight or thoughts but stop thinking that it’s about you
Let’s be fair, yes they would. They would still say that
I don't see why that's a bad thing? They're just offering their perspective. You're free to scroll past.
@@spacespye467 these ppl commenting can also very well just not comment if it’s something “not for them” or if they don’t understand polyamory lol. It’s like if I went to a RUclips video about coffee making and just commented “sorry I don’t even like coffee” ..like ok? No one asked.
fr lmao they’re not forcing you to be like them just respect them
I think people don't mean it that way tho. For many people this is a new subject and unlike for example homosexuality, polyamory is something basically everyone could consider. I think it makes sense that people watch something and then consider if it's for them. Them sharing their conclusions/opinions in the comments is fine right? Tbh I don't love it when I tell people that I am polyamourous and they tell me "it's not for me" or "wow that's so impressive that you can do that" but it's never ill-intended
Just a reminder to everyone that even if you don’t understand something, it doesn’t make it wrong. Polyamory is what makes some people happy, and the existence of polyamory doesn’t threaten anything or anyone.
Ingrid didn't look happy in the relationship. I hope she feels equally as part of it
Please make a “Do all non-binary people think the same?” Episode 😭
Good one
and please cast me to be one of the people in it.. jk.. unless..👀
@@alarek5130 me too 👀
No Please, do not make an episode about mysoginistic women who are basically a leftist alternative for „I’m not like other girls” believing that just because they don’t fit into social standards for women they are not one themselves
@@czerkitka141 Gender is a social construct, genius.
"i do get jealous sometimes yes"
- goes to Disagree
This was very cool and actually helped me understand a topic I have close to zero knowledge about.
Suppression of an emotion like jealousy isn't the same as not GETTING jealous.
Never been this early, got no interesting comments to read.
Including yours
@@anniem251 oof
Yeah :/
Be the interesting comment
dude 😭😭😭
I just can't understand that how one person can love more than one person at the same time.
Ask people who cheat...they're probably polyamorous and didn't know it. I think if more people who have the tendency to cheat checked out polyamory, there would probably be less of an issue with cheating, because then they could have all their needs satisfied by multiple people without relying on one person to do everything. I don't really get it, but I could see polyamory solving a lot of problems actually. Like what college guy wouldn't want like 15 girlfriends?
@@HouseMDaddict i’m not sure i really agree with that
@@HouseMDaddict I think what you said about people who cheat is probably polyamorous is just an excuse to what they did
@@mustafa.talhaaa I didn't mean ALL people who cheat are polyamorous, I'm saying they might be some people who would benefit from polyamory and cheat because they only know about monogamy. I really don't think there is ANY excuse for cheating. If you're not happy in your relationship and you're compelled to cheat, just break up with your partner and then hook up with whoever you were planning to cheat with. You can't just be like "well I'm married but I'm sort of bored so I'm going to sleep with other people". No homie, you either stay committed or you leave. Apparently in polyamorous relationships you can "cheat" as long as you communicate, so those wanting to cheat should try polyamory and not waste the time of people looking for monogamous relationships.
Siblings? Multiple children? Multiple friends? What's your definition of *love*?
I feel like it's impossible not to favor one person over the other...
That's probably why you're monogamous. For some of us, it is possible to love multiple people equally
I'm polyam and I personally find this impossible. But to suggest it is impossible for others would be using my personal anecdotal reasoning to make a huge generalisation.
@@Marz2727 if it's impossible that also doesn't necessarily have to be a deal breaker
@@camtothemax 100% agreed
Pretty much is but Polyamorous people will never admit it. They usually will bring up the parents with multiple child argument and that you can love all your kids equally, so why can't you love all your partners equally. When even parents have favorites lol. It's just sugarcoating at the end of the day.
As a polyamorous person, I really dislike that this is polyamorous "couples" and not polyamorous individuals... A relationship isn't polyamorous, a person is IMO.
The food web is a relationship.
You get my point?
but they are all just poly people... who brought their primary partner with them lol
did you wanna see single poly people
@@ChikiMombo the title says "couples" while it's not all duo's tho
Well I think they meant it as though when you refer to a relationship with two men, you would call it a gay relationship but that doesn't mean that those men are gay (they could be bisexual, pansexual etc). In the same way you could call each of these relationships polyamorous because there are more than two people consensually involved in that relationship. This is the same as when you would refer to two people dating exclusively as a monogamous relationship. The term polyamorous is being used as a descriptive word here. Sorry if this is hard to read as I'm not really good at explaining things 😅
I think this highlights a thing about polyamory that really helps make it work. Most mono couples seem to think that being in a relationship means you are no longer you, but that together you are one entity. You are now a couple, not two individuals. Polyamory seems to focus more on each person being their own individual. By realizing you are still an individual, it is much easier to stay true to yourself and grow as an individual which will make you better for your partner(s). This also seems to cut down on how much people try to be a different person and sacrifice a part of themselves in order to try to exist as that relationship.
The two with green and orange hair and the guy are straight out of an anime. Like these ppl are gorgous
Like a Ghibli film
anime- 🤓
@@k.8253 “🤓” 🤡
.... no
I am usually open-minded and I try not to ever judge cause it isn't my business and this is no exception, it's none of my business, BUT I just can't wrap my head around being okay with sharing someone who is most special to you with someone else and being okay with it. And even that aside, my own personal emotions, I just don't get how it's possible to maintain an equal relationship with multiple people, time-wise and emotionally-wise. Again, I won't go out of my way to judge anyone for this but since this is a video for discussion I just wanted to add something, I guess.
Simple awnser is everyone has different needs, something you like they can find outrageous as well
Dont worry you are not alone. I think polyamorous relationships are doomed to fail 90% of the time since human beings generally have a tendency to feel jealousy when their intimate partner becomes intimate with someone else. Plus its almost impossible to be 100% equal towards two partners. At the end of the day someone has to sacrifice for the other partner
they all talk to each other , just like every other relationship .
@@JoeMama-sd2kl That's why polyamorous people have to be especially skilled at navigating the romantic and sexual dynamics even in a monogamous relationship, so if anything, a polyamorous relationship would be more durable.
@@JoeMama-sd2kl i agree that it is impossible to give all your partners equal attention and time. the thing is though, monogamous pals assume that your partners want equal attention and time, which they often do not. anecdotal example: i personally tend to need way more ‘alone time’, while both of my partners are little needy shits. i love them, and we fulfil parts of each others’ wishes/desires, but it’s more about the utter impossibility of finding ‘the perfect one’ and the ability to love multiple ppl at the same time. love equally or not, again, depends on the relationship.
I can't even find one partner
looooooll
You don't find them. They just happen :)
@@dashofawesome64 I agree with you to a degree. Relationships are natural and happen over time, and you can't force feelings. But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't put yourself out there & take risks and put zero effort into finding one (if you're looking for one). Just don't make it your biggest priority to find one, live your own life, and if you are happy you probably attract others.
"We realised not one person can fulfil all your needs"
That's right... but I think the in most cases the solution is just expecting multiple ppl to do so.
At some point you gotta realize that's an internal issue.
Bcoz it's like what exactly are those needs?
@@RiniDiamandis sex most of the times
zev and manal seem so chill and cool I wanna be friends with them
lol Zev just wants her cake and to eat it too. So immature. Just stay single if you can't handle being with one person.
i’m friends with them they are amazing ppl
@@MsDudette21 *he & no he very much loves manal this is a poly relationship
@@MsDudette21 you don’t know them girl why you talking
As a person who has no interest in love or dating i really enjoy hearing the perspective of people who are so different from me. Thank you for sharing.
The Puerto Rico guy is always smiling 😁😁😁😁😁
Puerto Rico *
Ahh yes the mysterious Caribbean island of Port a Rico
port a rico
Port Ahhhh Rico get it right 👌🏾
This is some YGS level grammar
I love how Jimmy is showing off him and his partners love throughout the whole video lolll, it's honestly heart warming
I was in an open relationship in the past... Somewhat poly when we went long distance. At the time I thought it was my thing, and I would stick with it. But things changed. I got sick and realised I needed stability. I am now happily monogamous but am glad to have seen both worlds.
As someone who’s polyamorous, it’s amazing to see this representation!
will never fully understand this but its not my life
You don't have to understand, just accept it
I appreciate that
You only live once
Yes me too ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯
@@sleepymaddy7659 Actually you don’t have to accept it, you just need to tolerate it
The Korean woman has a energy like no one 🌻🌸
Such an open minded and understanding group of people.
Meanwhile I can't even get one partner in my 26 years of life haha
Not 26 yet, but same hahahah
Same... im about to turn 27 after 2 weeks 🤦🏻♂️
Just have to face reality. Some people are born extremely attractive, some are born into royal families, wealthy families, some become astronauts, charismatic leaders, some will have multiple sex partners. Life is not fair is why. It's like looking through at a window at something you want but you can't get. Sigh.
@@falconx8719 I'm not talking about being a Millionaire , or a Astronaut... What i'm saying is that ( Very few People died Lonely in this World ). So the Partner of your Life... Or your Soulmate would eventually come and bright up your Future and whatever... That's what its About ✌🏼
Lord these people have the will power I will never understand. I'm not sharing my man and what he has to offer with anyone.
100% agree. 👍👍
I can't share either. Maybe a 3some if we both agree but not a full blown relationship .. no
it's a lot easier if you separate love and meaningless sex, then you can stay romantically monogamous but sexually open
@ I wouldn't want to be sexually open. Nor would I want my man to be sexually open.
I will never understand how their type of love for each other would work...
The throuple with the guy & 2 girls were so insightful! I loved learning from all these people
I really admire the people who are doing polyamory right because there’s a lot of communications and you have to be honest with yourself and other people so I hope they’re all very happy and congrats to being parents soon to that one trio!!
"I do get jealous but ill stand at disagree".... like what?
They meant they don't accept their own jealousy, but they still should've stood at agree lol
I think a major difference between mono and poly is this idea of ownership. I'm reading through these comments and a lot of mono ppl are saying things like "I could never share my partner...he's mine...etc* but no, he/she/they isn't. They're their own. Your partner was a whole ass person before they met you, they're a whole ass person now, and they'll be a whole ass person if you break up. You never own your partner. They're never yours in the way some ppl are describing. Like, they're not yours to keep, to share, whatever. A relationship is an agreement of mutual companionship, it's not a binding contract of ownership. Ofc, there are rules and boundaries, which if broken constitute cheating...but you can't look at ppl only as what they are to you, you have to look at them as individuals unto themselves with or without you in the picture. I'm not saying mono isn't a valid form of relationship. I'm just saying some ppl get it twisted, take the jealousy too far, and forget that their partners are still entitled to autonomy.
Ok have you ever heard the phrase “ i am yours and you are mine” . I want to say most monogamous relationship or the people I know in a monogamous relationship don’t see them as a slave. They don’t own their body. When people say “ he or she is mine” they mean we are in an exclusive relationship together . There’s nobody else in the relationship but the two people and nobody is going to come in and ruin that. The “mine” part isn’t really about ownership like their some property. You don’t buy a relationships.
@@jnicole. yes, I get that. What I'm referring to is the "I'm not sharing" as though your partner were something you had the right to share or not share. Exclusively has to be agreed upon and when it is, it's fine. But you have to be able to think of instances where ppl have pushed it too far. "My bf isn't allowed to hang out at other girl's houses?" That's not for you to decide on behalf of your partner.
Edit: I'm sure you've heard, "that p*ssy's mine" also, which is equally weird.
@@gakailyn9249 oh so that what you mean. Ok so for your specific example of “ my bf isnt allowed to hang at other girls houses” depends on the situation. So let’s my boyfriend who is still friends with his ex girlfriends and wants to go over there houses. Some women wouldn’t feel comfortable with that and out respect/courtesy will tell their bf not to go over there. Now if your boyfriends was just purely friends with other girls and want to go over their house and the girlfriend “ won’t allow it” don’t trust their boyfriend. And when you don’t trust your boyfriend that leads to a rocky relationship. It’s seems to me the issue your having with monogamous relationships is jealousy. Which is an emotion that even people in polyamorous relationship feel. You have to put that jealousy aside and put trust in your partner and communicate any issue/doubt you’re having.
@@gakailyn9249 also idk but these terminology you are using in your post or comment are coming from people who possessive. Which isn’t necessarily always a bad thing. Some people actually like it when their partners do this some don’t. So like in any relationship communicating is key.
@@jnicole. yeah, I don't feel much jealousy and when it's coming from my partner I tolerate it at best. Possessiveness is a huge red flag to me and I don't tolerate it but that's me. I want to make it clear that I don't have a problem with mono, nearly all of my relationships have been. But in my experience, jealousy leads to control, which leads to being forced to stifle yourself especially in sexual aspects. I agree communication is key and everyone has a preference for the type of relationship they want to be in. I just want ppl to understand that control and possession are not aspects of a healthy relationship and it's hard to see that when ppl have these narratives that the whole "you are mine" thing bypasses being a cute little phrase to being a strongly held belief. To each their own as long as ppl are getting their needs met in.a healthy manner.
I’ve said it for years: people feel so angry towards non monogamy because it triggers them, because they’ve been cheated on in the past and they somehow view non monogamous relationships as validation of cheating. Their very existence threatens monogamous people’s sense of security in a relationship. It’s all rooted in insecurity though
I think indoctrination into purity culture plays a massive part too.
youre generalizing heavily
I’m just gonna be real blunt with it..poly ppl/couples can get so annoying. There is far too many poly folk with superiority complex’s who take every opportunity to go on and on about how evolved and mature they are for not getting jealous..etc. I get that lots have chips on the shoulder for being judged but it shouldn’t mean you knock monogamous people or try to play armchair psychologist about how “threatened” monogamous couples are. You don’t have to put monogamy down just to highlight why you like polyamory but unfortunately It’s the route a lot of poly ppl take
@@kraewe2367 preach
love is my love. i think it’s pretty interesting and cool that people are able to love more than one person and still feel connections & attractions w/ the partners. to summarise, i believe that if someone’s heart has enough room for more than one partner that’s truly beautiful! love has no boundaries!
lmfao, i remember having a conversation w/ a friend about our thoughts on poly relationships and i had said exactly what i had said above - and so did she. however when she had asked me if i could see myself in one, for some reason when i had said no and explained why, her response seemed kinda disappointed or as if she was offended that i couldn’t see myself in one?
i don’t think just because someone cannot see themselves in a poly relationship that they are close-minded. lmao i wish more people would understand that.
This is exactly what I feel!
I totally understand why someone would want to in an polyamorous relationship but I just still dislike the idea of it.
@@jnicole. why exactly?
@@Elaronna to put it simply it’s because my values. I just feel like an intimate sexual relationship should be between two people.
Yep it’s not for me, but to each is on do what makes you happy 😊! I really love this channel so good!
Such a great selection of people. All understanding, and well at explaining their beliefs. It was really nice watching this.
Prop: “I get jealous”
Guy: *disagrees* “I get jealous”
I find polyamorous relationships so interesting. I do think that it's a little ridiculous to think that one partner can give you everything you need for the rest of your life, but I also get jealous easily and don't think I could handle sharing my partner with someone else. I know I'm built more for monogamy but I wish I wasn't!
You can do like I do. I'm just not sharing my men, LOL. I have two husbands (since 2009 & 2015) and a boyfriend (since Jan 2021). I've been polyamorous since 2012. ♥ I have some content about polyamory on my channel and will release more in the future. ♥
I feel similarly, but am still exploring open relationships. I've asked the person I'm seeing not to talk to me about their other partners, and thus far I haven't felt much jealousy at all. I try to remind myself that my relationship or bond with this person is unique and shouldn't be compared to their bond with anyone else. We'll see, maybe if things get more serious in the future, my feelings might change and I'll have to accept that I'm meant for monogamy.
@@theprousteffect9717 That sounds like a good way to approach it, one that I may be able to handle with a future serious partner. I hope it all works out for you!
@@RaederlePhoenix you're living the dream
lmao whenever that "dr. justin clardy" title shows up his agreement/disagreement immediately sounds like an expert's opinion
as a clingy person this was hard to watch
I can't even imagine how much communication there needs to be for this to work...like I can't even have a trio friend group💀😭