It’s crazy how they assumed it was Eli because of how he reacted to getting interrupted, and they completely overlooked the fact that Jay was the one doing the interrupting and he actually smiled after doing that. Y’all should’ve seen it coming 🤣
I knew it was Jay as soon as i seen the selection. Then once he interrupted Eli, that only confirmed my suspicion. I solved this shit within the first minute.
Yeah the fact that he interrupted Eli and skipped right over him immediately made me think it was him. I was surprised too the group didn't see that. To be honest the further it went on and everyone seemed to like him I forgot about my initial suspicions and was wondering who it was at the end. Just goes to show, always trust your instincts.
That’s what I thought too! He also copied what the other guy said about calling his mom 3 times a week. But I can’t say I would have known because somebody put his name in the comments and it showed up as the first comment before I watched the video lol 😂 buuuut he did reaaally remind me of someone else I know. I friend of mines family member. I was like oh, yep that’s the one lol
The psychologist didn’t mention that while it’s often easy to spot a sociopath, the scary thing about psychopaths is that they are really good actors and know what acting normal looks like.
Ive had 4 people in the pool at the start. I had 2 people at the end, i was right Psychopath seems to create a character too fitting to his appearance, almost like a reality tv character and is very confident, everybody else is not a character portrayal but random traits life brings them.
Both these are old diagnoses that aren't used anymore, probably in part because they have very similar tendencies and are more of a spectrum than clear categories. At least, I thinks so because every time I hear someone say "the difference between sociopath and psychopath" they have a different interpretation of what each is like.
AND YOU know what’s crazy, it actually makes perfect sense why Jay is the psychopath. In the beginning of the video, he He disregarded his surroundings by talking before Eli, said everything everyone would have wanted to hear, was popular amongst the group, and make jokes, knowing that people would love to them. Honestly, though, it’s still kind of shocking.
He claims himself to be a public speaker in the video too. Public speakers have training in communication skills and have to be top notch tier of all public speaking, but Jay f'cks up immediately during an introduction. The reason was he saw that Eli had some narcissistic elements to his personality and then capitalise on it to survive another round. You see how it works now?
Totally. I think that's why they can fool people so easily. I noticed that the blond girl said 'I love you!" when he said he'd get a girl fries and ice cream if she was sad. She seemed very empathetic, and they are prime targets for psychopaths/narcissists.
The girl with the most issues also happened to be the most charmed by the psychopath which shows the kind of victim-abuser type releationshios psychos are seen in.
When Jay talked about him voting for himself and if he wouldn’t do that he would have talked himself out of it. Straight up psychopath vibes. Had it all planned out.
No, he got you. The psychopathic trait was to say HE influenced the outcome even though he did not. Even without his own vote he would have been voted out. Nobody counts it seems...
As someone who unknowingly dated a psychopath in the past, i immediately knew it was Jay. It's wild how they are able to turn on the charisma and work a room.
Yeah I have a relative we think is a sociopath and at a family wedding recently he was charming the socks off people. So anyone here who gave only good answers, made me suspect. It's just too hard to tell from an event like this
When you look back they were all showing signs of nervousness or guarded behaviour which is normal given they are on camera. Eli was fidgety, moving around, some putting their puts in front of themselves, some crossing their arms in nervous way. The only one that displayed zero nervousness was Jay. Sat their calmly in one spot, all his behaviours so smooth.
Actually this one could be just experience. I have years of experience training people so I feel 0 nervousness in front of people I do not know, since it is just a usual Monday for me.
People seem to not know that psychopaths are master manipulators. Not knowing how to convince someone that you are not a psychopath is most likely a sign you are not a psychopath, kinda strange how the psychologist didn’t know, or didn’t use that information
I would have probably been able to explain why I'm not a psychopath because I am interested in psychology and I know the characteristics. The other thing is whether I could describe it well in front of other people (due to nervousness) 😀
I think it's really gross that most of the traits people suspected were traits of social anxiety or autism. Like people know psychopaths are charming but they still suspected everyone who was reserved. There's such a social bias against introverts.
@@stampandscrap7494 but that doesn't have anything to do with being an introvert. These are traits that have nothing to do with whether you're an introvert, extrovert or abvermt (idk how to spell it but you know what i mean) since being an introvert means social interaction drains you and you recharge by being alone, introverts just *happen* to have these traits and sometimes they aren't actual introverts, it's just they posses the mentioned traits so they think it's an introvert thing.
@@Lauren-wp2pz Being drained by social interaction and introversion are both symptoms someone who is just a bit different than the rest of the herd in some ways and can't easily fit in, so they put on a mask which is very exhausting.
Man the first person I thought before they even spoke was Jay and then I was like "no way, I'm judging him by the looks, I shouldn't do that. It's not him"
Yeah I thought it was him too initially, but then ruled him out because I thought he looked like one. Thought they would’ve chosen someone less suspect, so I chose the Bambi girl. So much for overthinking!
I find it interesting that Valerie, one of the three people the psychologist suspected in the beginning, was the only one who consistently voted for Jay from the beginning. Valerie girl, your intuition is spot on! You have obviously learned from your past experiences with these kinds of people. Well done!
I lived my entire life with people who i found out later to be diagnosed with asp. I learned a lot about it the past 6yrs and can spot them if i have to spend time with them in any way but to see it on such short notice is truly remarkable. I didn't see it
@@HannahRosetheVeganNomad I didn't say that, in fact narcissists are like that too. You can believe what you will, it is you who have to live with the psychopaths if you justify them and don't recognize them. But I am right.
I think he was diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder but yeah people didn't want to judge him and thought maybe he was too obvious of a choice and it was someone you wouldn't suspect.
I was suspicious of Jay from the beginning. Red flags for me: 1. His indifference after interrupting Eli 2. Him trying to divert attention towards Hope and implying that she was the psychopath without any evidence. Regular people are not that quick to point fingers until they have some evidence 3. Constant smugness even while trying to say flowery words 4. Volunteer at the animal shelter, 'Momma's boy', watch the Oscars together, watch movies together 3 times a week -- these comments collectively sounded saccharine and cringey
Yes, especially the last few points. He really exaggerated the I'm just a nice handicapped elderly man who cares for everyone persona. And the smugness 😹
I just had one as my boyfriend. What a nightmare. This sounds so much like him. Mother issues for sure, the smugness, pure evilness.. Norman Bates vibes for sure.
I'm pretty convinced that he interrupted Eli deliberately in order to hopefully have people cast suspicions at Eli based on his reaction, just like the psychologist did
Okay but can we talk about the fact that not even the PSYCHOLOGIST suspected who it was Edit: Jesus, I never realized this comment I made months ago would still spark conversation. Guess people really don’t like psychologists.
for me it was that he had trouble moving and that he was pretty old, the oldest out of them. My reasoning was that he is not there just for fun like everyone else, and that he had a purpose there. Also there isn't many diagnosed psychopaths out there that are willing to participate in the show. For me the chances of him being a psychopath was higher from the start
These people live lives where they don't pay attention to anything. Honestly, that dude Jay was mega suspect the moment he walked in. I'll tell you how to notice someone that thinks they're special. The attitude, by him sitting like that and talking in the voice he does is strike 1. The eyes, he looks like he doesn't even want to be there. He thinks that there's no threat in that room so he looks bored, strike 2. The cane, the cane might be because of a medical condition though it's easy to notice when someone thinks that they look badass with it. The way the dude holds it is like if he were in a move and that'd for sure be the first thing he'd swing at you if you came at him,lol. Point is, a well behaved person wouldnt be holding something they need to walk like it was a bat that's ready to swing, strike 3. There's also a lot of other flaws though those were the ones everyday people can probably notice after I put this comment
Also a lot of people confuse a bad side to someone that is always like that. Ofc, all of them have bad sides( some more than others here) though you gotta be able to tell if they're always like that, pretending to be nice or are being honest. Build a profile
I’m not even lying, the second I heard Jay speak I was immediately suspicious. He had a lot of confidence and went before that other guy without even realizing. Public speaker was also suspicious because psychopaths are often articulate, confident, and charming. Weird how not a lot of people guessed him.
Public speakers also have topnotch communication skills, interrupting someone during an introduction is a red flag for someone who would be in such career. They would never interrupt like that. The only thing that caused issues was Eli does seem somewhat narcissistic which the psychopath picked up on immediately and used to his advantage.
Yes! When he interrupted Eli and didn't even looked or pretended to be apologetic was the thing that brought my attention to him. And then he just had a weird vibe, the kind of chill confidence that just comes out too cocky
Honestly I felt him looking like an old biker threw me off like I was projecting classism. Like "that guy has on a jean vest with tattooed arms and a ponytail, which is a caricature of a 1960s criminal, so he wont be the psycho itd be too obvious."
@@phillipcummings3518 Psychopaths DO have feelings and emotions. To think otherwise is buying into the con. Look into "narcissistic mortification". Which is why you seem like a standard, surface level idiot.
@@phillipcummings3518 exactly this. He seemed way too nice and way too chill to me. I suspected him from the second time he opened his mouth. I was thinking he's either an actor, either the psychopath
This reminds me of my dating times. I learned that the smooth seemingly perfect guys are the most toxic ones. And those with flaws are the actual good ones.
My stepdad is a psychopath, no one ever really suspected it. He can act normal, especially charming to general public. But when someone kinda figured him out, we'd move churches, groups, counselors etc. Scary how mean and hurtful they can be when they wanna be. This video is kind of no surprise.
It was between J and Chris. Both were very calm and showed no sign of nervousness but I kinda thought it was J. My daughter did volunteer work at an animal shelter and it is very unlikely, given his physical condition, he would be able to do that kind of work.
I felt that Jay was a psychopath from the beginning when he unapologetically jumped ahead of the line instead of waiting his turn. He gave off those vibes the entire time. It's hard to believe no one noticed.
Yep...in the first few seconds as they were showing people in the line-up, before they spoke, I chose Jay. Psychopaths - like all Narcissists, believe they are special & believe everyone is beneath them. The fact he was looking unkempt compared to the others & sat due to a disability- yet had the pose of arrogance. Lots of people have disabilities but you can tell when they exude compassion.
Yess! And he was the "caring" guy volunteering at the dog shelter hahaha But said to the girl in the first round: "we got you out crazy girl!" Like wth
Right!! I knew from that moment it was Jay especially when he didn't apologize afterwards - then his answers all sounded way too good to be true plus he was the most charming out of the entire bunch lmfao... Also this is kind of a meaningless anecdote but you can kinda see it in his eyes that he's just not all there loool
@@triputuThese people live lives where they don't pay attention to anything. Honestly, that dude Jay was mega suspect the moment he walked in. I'll tell you how to notice someone that thinks they're special. The attitude, by him sitting like that and talking in the voice he does is strike 1. The eyes, he looks like he doesn't even want to be there. He thinks that there's no threat in that room so he looks bored, strike 2. The cane, the cane might be because of a medical condition. it's easy to notice when someone thinks that they look badass with it. The way the dude holds it is like if he were in a movie and that'd for sure be the first thing he'd swing at you if you came at him,lol. Point is, a well behaved person wouldnt be holding something they need to walk like it was a bat that's ready to swing, strike 3. There's also a lot of other flaws though those were the ones everyday people can probably notice after I put this comment
I got it right. His over emotional answer gave it away, his strategies are in creating rapport and alliance with answers people want to hear instead of authenticity. So easy to spot.
As an introvert it's so annoying when all the introverted people got voted out just because they were more reserved. Also, as an empath I've had my fair share of exes who were probably psychopaths and narcissists and spotted J from a mile away. Poor Tommi fell for his bullshit so easily, they really need to be careful!
Sameeeee. I specially identify with Ryan. Not only for being an introvert and also Libra zodiac like myself xD but the way he was kinda awkward when having to talk and be the spot of attention cause it obviously makes him uncomfortable but when he was not the spot his expressions were so natural and honest. I trusted him since beginning cause I'm like this too.
They probably actually weren’t those things, bc it’s not that common. Anyone can display narcissistic tendencies, but that doesn’t make them a narcissist.
His way of speaking absolutely. He wants ppl to think he's this or that. Southside tough mama, Annie, talk to my mom everyday...I can feel it in his way of speaking. I am 45 with lots of experience with messed up ppl
I noticed from the beginning that he had trouble walking and was pretty old, the oldest out of them. With those two facts in mind my reasoning was that he wasn't there just for fun like everyone else and that he had a purpose there. Also not many diagnosed psychopaths are willing to participate in the show like this one, which narrows the amount of people with aspd who would have been there even more and that's why they got someone like J as their psychopath
I was initially suspicious of him because he spoke ahead of Eli and usually psychopaths are very self oriented so it felt like something a psychopath would do, but man he’s done an excellent job studying people.
These people live lives where they don't pay attention to anything. Honestly, that dude Jay was mega suspect the moment he walked in. I'll tell you how to notice someone that thinks they're special. The attitude, by him sitting like that and talking in the voice he does is strike 1. The eyes, he looks like he doesn't even want to be there. He thinks that there's no threat in that room so he looks bored, strike 2. The cane, the cane might be because of a medical condition though it's easy to notice when someone thinks that they look badass with it. The way the dude holds it is like if he were in a move and that'd for sure be the first thing he'd swing at you if you came at him,lol. Point is, a well behaved person wouldnt be holding something they need to walk like it was a bat that's ready to swing, strike 3. There's also a lot of other flaws though those were the ones everyday people can probably notice after I put this comment
"You won't know unless they tell you" type of situation. Crazy how everyone thinks of psychopaths as the most reserved and introverted ppl in a group when they are usually the most charming and seemingly open and friendly.
It's in the eyes. If you look at Jay's eyes, there are moments when he doesn't blink at all. Full stares during conversations and lack of blinking is a sign.
People probably assumed a psychopath to be good looking.. but no he just needs to be confident and charming and not have to be physically attractive at all
Uh.... no why in the world would you think that? In fairness I always thought narcissists were good looking and psychopaths are also narcissists if memory serves.
I immediately knew it was Jay before he even said anything just by the look on his face. There was an instant glibness and glazed over look in his eyes that gave it away for me. The eyes never lie, chico.
Yessss I spotted that too! What got me was his answer to someone crying. He said, idk you’re the one crying and then smiled. Like what is funny about someone crying???
Can't get past the uncanny energy of him blending in perfectly while having the most opposite of vibes ever. I think he's great, but I'm also definitely thinking about the fact of
I knew it was him from the very beginning. He just stood out to me. I guess it helps that I work in psych and have a close friend with the disorder. There is a certain lack of fear, lack of awkwardness, eye contact, lack of emotion, and gift of gab he has. I'm surprised they picked the shy awkward people.
@@ChildrensRightsFirst947 Good point. Most sociopaths I've met are just people who are carefree (lack much worry), fearless, never socially awkward or nervous, and are not violent people (even most of the jailbird diagnosed ASPD's I met who get into trouble). It's like there is a certain "vulnerability" that they lack. Everybody expects a serial killer type (which many are sociopaths, but some killers are just angry or malicious or insecure or just plain bad people).
Same-being in the field does allow you to become more familiar with patterns and the feelings behind them become associated, until there’s some system of abstraction behind it and you can just tell.
Spoilers I had my suspicions on Jay for the exact reason that people didn’t. He was very charming and likable, which is something that psychopaths become very good at in order to fit in with normal people. Everyone liked him which just goes to show how good psychopaths are at blending in.
After years of bartending, I picked up a sixth sense where I could just read people! I knew it was him the first time I saw him. Just an air of arrogance, aloofness, etc that an older gentleman with a disability would not normally project. Just something off…
Tommi is the absolute cutest! She gives off such positive and loving energy. I can tell she's an amazing person to be around. I hope her recovery is successful
@@shotono3286 Where? Calling someone “the cutest” isn’t infantilizing them smh. You’re looking for reasons to be offended and throwing words around at this point lmao
I was HSP INFP kid who feels extreme empathy while my dad was a psychopath. Rags to rich and very well loved politician lol HE TRAUMATIZED ME SO MUCH BECAUSE NOONE BELIEVED ME, IT WAS I WAS UNGRATEFUL FOR MY SO KIND CHARMING FATHER.
look at 2:55 how Jays eyes changes when he is alone with the camera vs when he is around the group, they get ”evil” almost as a wink, he is playing a game and he enjoys it. He asked the question of how trustworthy people are, this is a very specific question that normal people dont think about but it is suuuper important for psychopaths since trustworthy people are far easier to manipulate. Then when he votes for himself in the last round he also likes to play this manipulation game which is a clear sign.
I used to be friends with a psychopath.I had J sussed from the first few seconds. The way he tried to talk before Eli and didnt even think about apologising. He was just "yeah are we continuing, oh".
Yep. It was obvious and should have been obvious to everyone especially the psychologist...but apparently it wasn't. We have the wrong people in these jobs 😉
i haven't even assumed it was him, he was nice but also not that nice, i thought him and the two girls at the end were like a distraction because they are all in some alt outfits and it would be someone like Eli or Ryan
I was raised by a psychopath (sociopath, diagnosed, jn the 70s though, when it was still the original diagnosis) and the best advice i can give ANYone is a psychopath is often "on", i.e. overly friendly, someone you really think is super warm, and never really turns it off. Jay gave me chills immediately. They're unassuming, excellent liars, and have studied human behavior so very well, that the closest indicator I've found is... unfortunately.. the ones you'd least expect (for the average person). For me, it's something about the eyes, and how had they work at seeming like everyone else. That part never really stops like it does for normal people when we get behind closed doors. Stay safe out there. ❤
They like to play with others, like jay did, they are often extroverts and like to talk a lot and control the room, they are more object focused (how he said he'd give her ice cream and french fries) and there's a lot of patterns and je ne sais quoi. I am better at detecting narcs than psychopaths but I'm pretty good at the latter too. Problem is no one believes you. Also just the way Jay presented himself.
Old video I know, but psychopath is not a derogatory term. It's a set of 20 traits that predict criminal behavior, the facets are Affective, interpersonal, Anti-social and Lifestyle. Psychopaths have a proclivity for anti-social behavior, but not always. Also, ASPD is mostly regarded as a disorder of aggression and disregard for rules, psychopathy is a nigh-complete lack of empathy and conscience, which is arguably worse and not to be excused as a "Glitch in their matrix" like the psychologist mentions.
So I actually picked him. My strategy was to pick the person I least suspected because I remember being told that psychopaths are MASTER manipulators. They are the best liars you will ever meet. They have perfected how to act "normal" when it suits them.
I was stumped until the last round when there were I think 6 left. Jay was the only one of them with relaxed body language. All the others displayed some level of anxiousness and posture. They need to make another one of these!
i would just lay down on the floor and try to nap because this would be boring for me...also i do not understand body language nor why they would feel anxious...its not like they gave the guy a weapon, let alone him showing sign of murderous intent(didn't look or sound angry)
@@dakidokinoyes, but it’s not a formal diagnosis. Especially for children, because of the negative stigma. When I was young, I was diagnosed with “conduct disorder” which is what usually happens. Only at ages 15-18 and older, do they re-evaluate to see if it is actual aspd. Of course it can be obvious at a young age which children are psychopaths and which ones aren’t
@@dakidokinoIsn't it the reverse of that? All psychopaths have ASPD but not every ASPD diagnosis is for psychopathy. ASPD covers both that and sociopathy so someone with an ASPD diagnosis could have either sociopathy or psychopathy.
I bawled in Click what do y’all mean?! You’re telling me, seeing Sandler lose his wife and kids because he wasn’t living in the moment didn’t get to you?! Seeing his kids grow literally in a blink of an eye.. him falling in the rain after chasing them calling for Ben and Samantha didn’t bring ANY tears to your eyes?!
The first time I watched this I was SURE it is not Jay and was super supprised at the end. Though I was extremely tired and it was 1am. Now watching it again it seems it should have been obvious: Jay was extremely passive agressive and confrontational towards others while talking extremely highly of himself and making ”cute little self ironic jokes” about what a ”lovely, wholesome guy he is”. Also the extensive crime history.
I should’ve trusted intuition over trying to think this one out. He had such quick, smooth responses to things and overall just seemed like he had NO nerve - I knew it was suspicious but I tried to logic this one out and wound up more confused than anything
I was looking for signs of nervousness and anxiety and got it right. In public stress situations like this it is easier to spot the one who stays cool.
@@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution not all psychopaths are dangerous. Just because they don't feel emotions the same way as others does it mean they have a compulsion to do what they know is morally and socially unacceptable. Psychopaths still know what's wrong and right. My point is if someone's a sadist and a psychopath that's a four worst combination and I'm sure every serial killer that's ever existed were those two things. Not every psychopath is a serial killer however
@@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution however to your point, many people in powerful positions politically and at the heads of companies are psychopaths. This is a known fact and it does affect their morality and ethics as far as business is concerned. This is why we have so many people at the top doing backdoor deals and taking care of themselves and letting people under them struggle. That's a totally different discussion but one that is pertaining to the topic
@@Chris-of6xm Exactly. I completely agree with you. I would actually argue that most rich peoples ahead of big corporations and companies are psychopaths. And a lot of political leaders are too. I think it is a very relevant discussion, considering the influence psychopaths has on todays world, which also tend to produce narcissists like we see in this video.
I knew it was him when he first walked into the room. Reminded me of my unhealthy husband who was also diagnosed psychopath. If you cant love anyone, youre not loving yourself and it shows.
I knew it! Jay convinced everyone to vote against Airracks girlfriend; and interrupted Eli! Both decisions seemed tactical, and they worked! Thank you for these videos. They’re awesome! Keep it up🙌🏻
I knew that he is the psychopath from the beginning. He interrupted the guy before him on the first question. Psychopath always try to dominate, control and intimated people around them.
@@szszszsz95395 Actually there is a lot of similarities between narcissists and psychopaths, and this is why the show tried to make it seem it was so hard to spot the psychopath, because most of the other contestants were narcissist. But it is not actually that hard. Memo6733 is right. He interrupted the guy before him on the first question. Psychopath always try to dominate, control and intimated people around them.
I knew it has Jay when I first saw him and only got further suspicious… he was the only one that held composure throughout the entire thing and his eyes looked dead no matter how sincere he seemed
The best part was the Genuine look of stock and surprise on the licenced psychologists face when the Antisocial individual was identified. This is important.
Yeah, it shows that psychiatry/psychology is pseudoscience, and based solely on the subjective opinions of very biased and brainwashed human “experts”.
To me, what Jay gave away was how confidnet he was while saying things and telling stories, too chill and almost theatrical. Most psychopaths are really good liars so I just paid attention to how he was telling stories and answering. I also got suspicious when the girl on the farthest right asked if anyones ever been in therapy or is currently, Jay just looked around and didn't even answer. It's incredibly interesting that hes an older guy as well so all that experience and age made him overall more conifident and straightforward. Also the public speaking at the beginning kinda already gave him away.
I guessed it was him even before they began talking. I noticed that he had trouble walking and was pretty old, the oldest out of them. With those two facts in mind my reasoning was that he wasn't there just for fun like everyone else and that he had a purpose there. Also not many diagnosed psychopaths are willing to participate in the show like this one, which narrows the amount of people with aspd who would have been there even more and that's why they got someone like J as their psychopath
Ngl, when she said, "what kind of ice cream?" and he said, "you're the one crying," I was all, "ooh, too nice, he's the one." I had a close relative who was a psychopath and it was Charm City every day. I wanted Jay not to be, because I liked him. But it's always the ones you like.
I had already picked J out as the psychopath within the 1st minute. Interestingly when J said "I don't know you're the 1 crying," about what kind of icecream- that answer was too distant & lacked feeling. He was removing himself from her emotion of crying & he said it with a fraction of disgust. A truly kind person would've said "...your favourite icecream witha cherry on top to cheer you up." This would've linked the kind gesture to the eventual image of the crying girl being happy. In J's answer the image left was the girl still crying.
Same, that’s when the alarm bells started ringing in my head. Usually people would use different wording in this situation. ”You’re the one crying” sounds like you don’t truly recognize that the person is hurting and you treat it as an inconvenience.
@@saeranchoi3343 yes, but the intended impression is, "you get anything you want!" It's facile. It's a little bit, "come look in my van, little girl! I have kittens AND candy!"
“Schindler’s List” “That’s a weird answer!” Bro what!? lol I tear up almost every time I watch that movie. Not weird at all. You sure you’re not the psychopath?? 😆
also knew it from the beginning. I noticed that he had trouble walking and was pretty old, the oldest out of them. With those two facts in mind my reasoning was that he wasn't there just for fun like everyone else and that he had a purpose there. Also not many diagnosed psychopaths are willing to participate in the show like this one, which narrows the amount of people with aspd who would have been there even more and that's why they got someone like J as their psychopath. Him being there was already sus lol
Jay was an incredible actor, and he has to be in order to make it in this life. He knows social cues better than most people, and watching the video again, you can see only a few signs at most that he is psychopathic.
I know a person with ASPD with narcissistic tendencies, the most obvious signs with that person for me (besides years of just pain caused by the person) is the straight up cruel sense of humor, not just edgy humor but you can just tell how cold it is, just ridicule and overt laughing. As well as disregard for norms and etiquette. Also how they interact socially, there’s something disconnected about it. It’s like they’re talking at you and putting on a show or they just ooze indifference. That and also how if they charm a more vulnerable person, they instantly get dominant in a subtle way to where the vulnerable person starts to try to please them or justify the ASPD person’s behaviour. Because of how strong their frame tends to be, the ASPD person. The last one is their anger, this person i know, her eyes just go black and she just bulldozes you.
Jay is so freaking obvious. He deathstares everyone without the death stare being personal at all, and in a really calculated still cold manner. There are other signs too like extremely non-vulnerable smiling, interrupting people, seemingly well crafted fast answers that indicate a calculated personality in crafting those answers, etc.
I love how the psychopath said he volunteers at a dogshelter even tho he can’t even stand up for 99% of the video and nobody thought that was weird or something
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It’s crazy how they assumed it was Eli because of how he reacted to getting interrupted, and they completely overlooked the fact that Jay was the one doing the interrupting and he actually smiled after doing that. Y’all should’ve seen it coming 🤣
Once I saw the comments before finishing the video and saw Jay was the psychopath that section of the video made way more sense as to why he did it.
I knew it was Jay as soon as i seen the selection.
Then once he interrupted Eli, that only confirmed my suspicion.
I solved this shit within the first minute.
Yeah the fact that he interrupted Eli and skipped right over him immediately made me think it was him. I was surprised too the group didn't see that. To be honest the further it went on and everyone seemed to like him I forgot about my initial suspicions and was wondering who it was at the end. Just goes to show, always trust your instincts.
I actually did. He said oh and chuckled. Also, his cry answer was sus bc he went into explanation.
That’s what I thought too! He also copied what the other guy said about calling his mom 3 times a week. But I can’t say I would have known because somebody put his name in the comments and it showed up as the first comment before I watched the video lol 😂 buuuut he did reaaally remind me of someone else I know. I friend of mines family member. I was like oh, yep that’s the one lol
The psychologist didn’t mention that while it’s often easy to spot a sociopath, the scary thing about psychopaths is that they are really good actors and know what acting normal looks like.
Not all sociopaths are bad people
Ive had 4 people in the pool at the start. I had 2 people at the end, i was right Psychopath seems to create a character too fitting to his appearance, almost like a reality tv character and is very confident, everybody else is not a character portrayal but random traits life brings them.
nothing scary about it really
Both these are old diagnoses that aren't used anymore, probably in part because they have very similar tendencies and are more of a spectrum than clear categories. At least, I thinks so because every time I hear someone say "the difference between sociopath and psychopath" they have a different interpretation of what each is like.
@@BCh-pu4jp That is false.
AND YOU know what’s crazy, it actually makes perfect sense why Jay is the psychopath. In the beginning of the video, he He disregarded his surroundings by talking before Eli, said everything everyone would have wanted to hear, was popular amongst the group, and make jokes, knowing that people would love to them. Honestly, though, it’s still kind of shocking.
He claims himself to be a public speaker in the video too. Public speakers have training in communication skills and have to be top notch tier of all public speaking, but Jay f'cks up immediately during an introduction. The reason was he saw that Eli had some narcissistic elements to his personality and then capitalise on it to survive another round. You see how it works now?
That was a lie too.
the way he people pleased everyone was so obvious.
Totally. I think that's why they can fool people so easily. I noticed that the blond girl said 'I love you!" when he said he'd get a girl fries and ice cream if she was sad. She seemed very empathetic, and they are prime targets for psychopaths/narcissists.
These were my exact observations while watching and I knew it was him from the beginning
The girl with the most issues also happened to be the most charmed by the psychopath which shows the kind of victim-abuser type releationshios psychos are seen in.
Omg so true 😯
💔 😞 Sadly, true
That is such an eye opening observation you helped me see from the show. Thank you for your comment here.
Damn.. 🤔
omg you are so right
When Jay talked about him voting for himself and if he wouldn’t do that he would have talked himself out of it. Straight up psychopath vibes. Had it all planned out.
Mabey because he is one?
@@pepijnevers759well done genius! 😂
No, he got you. The psychopathic trait was to say HE influenced the outcome even though he did not. Even without his own vote he would have been voted out. Nobody counts it seems...
Idk why but i am having a incredibly hard time reading this comment specifically.
@@seriouslyreal3591 same like wtf
Jay went from cool uncle to scary mafia boss 💀
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OMG this explains so much about gangs.
😂
I knew right away that he was the psychopath right when the video started
I personally think that Jay could be a good guy but is just anti social
As someone who unknowingly dated a psychopath in the past, i immediately knew it was Jay. It's wild how they are able to turn on the charisma and work a room.
Very scary sometimes.
How did you know?
Yeah I have a relative we think is a sociopath and at a family wedding recently he was charming the socks off people. So anyone here who gave only good answers, made me suspect. It's just too hard to tell from an event like this
100%
Superficial charm, glibness...once you know what to look for. How soon did you know it was him?
When you look back they were all showing signs of nervousness or guarded behaviour which is normal given they are on camera. Eli was fidgety, moving around, some putting their puts in front of themselves, some crossing their arms in nervous way. The only one that displayed zero nervousness was Jay. Sat their calmly in one spot, all his behaviours so smooth.
That’s what I think too! Normal people are awkward
Actually this one could be just experience.
I have years of experience training people so I feel 0 nervousness in front of people I do not know, since it is just a usual Monday for me.
Difference between prey and predators, he was the only one without uncertainty because his objective was clear and achievable: to deceive everyone
I immediately ruled Eli out because his body language showed he was clearly so uncomfortable.
The Psychopaths are usually the most likable person in the room
Exactly! What most people don't know is that psychopaths can be the nicest people you know, without knowing that they do not actually care.
It just didn't apply in this situation. To me he was the least.
Or the least
Not if you can tell who it is lol
Ah so Edward is the Psychopath
People seem to not know that psychopaths are master manipulators. Not knowing how to convince someone that you are not a psychopath is most likely a sign you are not a psychopath, kinda strange how the psychologist didn’t know, or didn’t use that information
You’re right! “Im leaning towards Edward. He didn’t plead his case” 🤦♀️
I would have probably been able to explain why I'm not a psychopath because I am interested in psychology and I know the characteristics. The other thing is whether I could describe it well in front of other people (due to nervousness) 😀
Hello there!
@@dinuffin Youth and oldy, seek out the BIBLE, and start knowing more than you today assume to know.
yeah, i guessed it was jay from the start, he seemed too friendly and smth abt him was really off
I think it's really gross that most of the traits people suspected were traits of social anxiety or autism. Like people know psychopaths are charming but they still suspected everyone who was reserved. There's such a social bias against introverts.
What does awkwardness/shyness or anxiousness have to do with being an introvert though?
@@Lauren-wp2pzbecause introverts are often on of those, sometimes all of those.
@@stampandscrap7494 but that doesn't have anything to do with being an introvert. These are traits that have nothing to do with whether you're an introvert, extrovert or abvermt (idk how to spell it but you know what i mean) since being an introvert means social interaction drains you and you recharge by being alone, introverts just *happen* to have these traits and sometimes they aren't actual introverts, it's just they posses the mentioned traits so they think it's an introvert thing.
Huh?
What a whiny post. Human beings are complicated.
Maybe write this in your journal next time.
@@Lauren-wp2pz Being drained by social interaction and introversion are both symptoms someone who is just a bit different than the rest of the herd in some ways and can't easily fit in, so they put on a mask which is very exhausting.
Man the first person I thought before they even spoke was Jay and then I was like "no way, I'm judging him by the looks, I shouldn't do that. It's not him"
I thought it was Jay too, before they even started, but not because of his looks. It was something about his eyes that made me feel unsettled.
Me too
Yeah I thought it was him too initially, but then ruled him out because I thought he looked like one. Thought they would’ve chosen someone less suspect, so I chose the Bambi girl. So much for overthinking!
Me too, and then I thought it was too obvious. Unfortunately, I then read the second comment and got spoiled.
Same.
you should have had all them been psycopaths but not tell them that so they think they are the only one. thatd be hilarious
Where's the tension?
@@HolyNamedthey all have to lie
Cherries
so smart lollll next time
@@Houseparty. yay
I find it interesting that Valerie, one of the three people the psychologist suspected in the beginning, was the only one who consistently voted for Jay from the beginning. Valerie girl, your intuition is spot on! You have obviously learned from your past experiences with these kinds of people. Well done!
The first 2 rounds she voted for other people, but, yeah she definitely had Jay's number. He looks like a psycho. 😬
I lived my entire life with people who i found out later to be diagnosed with asp. I learned a lot about it the past 6yrs and can spot them if i have to spend time with them in any way but to see it on such short notice is truly remarkable. I didn't see it
She seems also kinda psychopath to be honest
She's a high functioner herself. Personality disorders are often two-sided in that way. Sociopaths make amazing detectives etc.
I thought she was the psychopath lol, she or Chris
Imagine if Airrack's girlfriend was the psychopath, that would have been the greatest plot twist of 2023.
Oh hell no 😂😂
Lol
@@Dj07-i3u done
@@Dj07-i3u ok
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I like how the psychologist didn't have a damn clue lol
They rarely do
They can be easily played too, because psychologists usually have trauma and vulnerabilities they haven't healed.
That is not true. The Psychopath gave the biggest clue right from the start by being the only one who interrupted another contestant.
@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution So no one but a psychopath can get antsy, absentminded, or self centered? I don't think that was a giveaway at all.
@@HannahRosetheVeganNomad I didn't say that, in fact narcissists are like that too.
You can believe what you will, it is you who have to live with the psychopaths if you justify them and don't recognize them.
But I am right.
The way Jay immediately switched personality and aura afterwards is crazy. He looked like a too obvious psychopath to be a psychopath..
I think Jays definitely a socialpath
Psychopath and a sociopath aren’t the same thing
He didn't really change his personality, he just revealed the truth to everyone and wasn't actively lying lol.
@@AudreyMartin-qm3pihe said socialpath tbf
I think he was diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder but yeah people didn't want to judge him and thought maybe he was too obvious of a choice and it was someone you wouldn't suspect.
I was suspicious of Jay from the beginning. Red flags for me:
1. His indifference after interrupting Eli
2. Him trying to divert attention towards Hope and implying that she was the psychopath without any evidence. Regular people are not that quick to point fingers until they have some evidence
3. Constant smugness even while trying to say flowery words
4. Volunteer at the animal shelter, 'Momma's boy', watch the Oscars together, watch movies together 3 times a week -- these comments collectively sounded saccharine and cringey
Yes, especially the last few points. He really exaggerated the I'm just a nice handicapped elderly man who cares for everyone persona. And the smugness 😹
Number 2) I just assumed he's joking
Numbdf 4) Momma's boy, Oscars and calling 3 times a week - yeah, that creeped me out totally.
I just had one as my boyfriend. What a nightmare. This sounds so much like him. Mother issues for sure, the smugness, pure evilness.. Norman Bates vibes for sure.
I'm pretty convinced that he interrupted Eli deliberately in order to hopefully have people cast suspicions at Eli based on his reaction, just like the psychologist did
1) his demeanour, that was all
Giggling over a fact that I sensed who is a psychopath in the first few seconds. I grew up with a psychopath and chose someone who seemed "familiar".
Good point @@qwrhx
@@qwrhx great analysis.
The way everyone is standing far away from the psychopath at the end of the video 😂😂😂
i noticed that too lmao
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The way folks started to kinda tense up as he told his background with therapy stuff lol
Yeah it's sad they they have that stigma in their heads and decide to judge somebody just for their disorder.
@@aidentoonskind of hard not to when he started purposely talking creepily and bragging about how easily he can manipulate people
its crazy how the second its revealed that j is a psychopath his whole demeanor changes. like even his voice wtff
Bro his voice was the scary part
he became so cold.. even tho he seemed so friendly before
He didn't change though....tone and demeanor were always like he didn't care.
This is how your fav politicians get voted and remain in office.
@@artloverrarts Psychopath are very good actors and can pretend to be the most beautiful angels while being the worst demons you'll ever met.
Okay but can we talk about the fact that not even the PSYCHOLOGIST suspected who it was
Edit: Jesus, I never realized this comment I made months ago would still spark conversation. Guess people really don’t like psychologists.
true
psychology is bullshit im telling ya
He was literally the first one I suspected
@@yesman3208 then I guess you can officially say you’re more observant than a psychologist
@@rebelwithareason911 that’s really not saying much to be honest
It was his nonplussed reaction to being corrected for speaking out of turn. He wasn't embarrassed.
for me it was that he had trouble moving and that he was pretty old, the oldest out of them. My reasoning was that he is not there just for fun like everyone else, and that he had a purpose there. Also there isn't many diagnosed psychopaths out there that are willing to participate in the show. For me the chances of him being a psychopath was higher from the start
As someone with ASPD i knew immediately it was Jay. He was way to clear and confident with all his answers and his presence.
Do you think the way most psychopaths can just act so well is because they've learner do that overtime or is it a trait
Yeah, he looked like he owned the room. I still didn't see it though 😬
@@untzuy3744they learn
B.S
...except he was also self-soothing (rubbing his hand against his thigh or his other hand) every time he lied.
that's crazy that jay had everyone fooled. he genuinely seemed so nice and it was strange to see him at the end not masking anything
Spoiler
@@SamHenn-w2j dont read youtube comments before watching the video then?
He voted for himself two times and I was like 🤨 ok that’s weird
These people live lives where they don't pay attention to anything. Honestly, that dude Jay was mega suspect the moment he walked in. I'll tell you how to notice someone that thinks they're special. The attitude, by him sitting like that and talking in the voice he does is strike 1. The eyes, he looks like he doesn't even want to be there. He thinks that there's no threat in that room so he looks bored, strike 2. The cane, the cane might be because of a medical condition though it's easy to notice when someone thinks that they look badass with it. The way the dude holds it is like if he were in a move and that'd for sure be the first thing he'd swing at you if you came at him,lol. Point is, a well behaved person wouldnt be holding something they need to walk like it was a bat that's ready to swing, strike 3. There's also a lot of other flaws though those were the ones everyday people can probably notice after I put this comment
Also a lot of people confuse a bad side to someone that is always like that. Ofc, all of them have bad sides( some more than others here) though you gotta be able to tell if they're always like that, pretending to be nice or are being honest. Build a profile
I’m not even lying, the second I heard Jay speak I was immediately suspicious. He had a lot of confidence and went before that other guy without even realizing. Public speaker was also suspicious because psychopaths are often articulate, confident, and charming. Weird how not a lot of people guessed him.
SAME !!
I didn't think it was him because it was too obvious, I thought the show was playing us, my money was on an orange girl.
Public speakers also have topnotch communication skills, interrupting someone during an introduction is a red flag for someone who would be in such career. They would never interrupt like that. The only thing that caused issues was Eli does seem somewhat narcissistic which the psychopath picked up on immediately and used to his advantage.
Yes! When he interrupted Eli and didn't even looked or pretended to be apologetic was the thing that brought my attention to him. And then he just had a weird vibe, the kind of chill confidence that just comes out too cocky
People were sussing out the awkward guys. A psychopath is actually the opposite, they are very good at talking and appearing charismatic.
Honestly I felt him looking like an old biker threw me off like I was projecting classism. Like "that guy has on a jean vest with tattooed arms and a ponytail, which is a caricature of a 1960s criminal, so he wont be the psycho itd be too obvious."
Same
What about his flat affect, smug demeanor, and glib responses? Or do we just go by looks now? 🙄
Ditto
@@chilliecheesecakehate to break it to you but those aren't at all what to look for in a psycho. That can literally be just confidence.
@@tobirae-zm7jg They're literally textbook symptoms of antisocial personality disorder, O wise one. Now try to stay awake in class from now on.
Imagine how awkward going back to the parking lot must have been after jay completely lied to them 😂😂😂
???
@@srimankingsphotosfr im so confused on what he talking about
love that u thought of this, so true
"soo.. anyone wanna come back to my place?"
The tendion in the room imediatly got super high, look at how they all look at Jay and stands far away from him after he admited he was the psychopath
When Eric puts a psychologist in the video instead of me 💁🏼♀️
maybe only one required
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Gold move
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Poor tlyer
He looked like a too obvious psychopath to be a psychopath.
You just did not want to be mean or judgy. ❤
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its cause people make people evil look like that in movies and shows but really he look chillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
@@thegiantjj can tell you right now, "chilling" with someone like him would be a bad call. Way too egotistical
@@stevendalloesinghand people wanting to give the benefit of the doubt
The crazy thing is he was the only one not nervous. He made no ‘self comforting’ movements.
Jay was the last person I expected to be the psychopath. He just seems too chill compared to everyone else.
You thought he was less likely to be a psychopath because he seemed less anxious than everybody else?
@@SandymoorFerrariClub yes he look like Santa if he read bed time stories to his elf.
@@lamechannelboring4008 Psychopaths don't have emotions like anxiety.
@@phillipcummings3518
Psychopaths DO have feelings and emotions.
To think otherwise is buying into the con.
Look into "narcissistic mortification".
Which is why you seem like a standard, surface level idiot.
@@phillipcummings3518 exactly this. He seemed way too nice and way too chill to me. I suspected him from the second time he opened his mouth. I was thinking he's either an actor, either the psychopath
This reminds me of my dating times. I learned that the smooth seemingly perfect guys are the most toxic ones. And those with flaws are the actual good ones.
Combined with this video, i take that advice. 😁
My stepdad is a psychopath, no one ever really suspected it. He can act normal, especially charming to general public. But when someone kinda figured him out, we'd move churches, groups, counselors etc. Scary how mean and hurtful they can be when they wanna be. This video is kind of no surprise.
It was between J and Chris. Both were very calm and showed no sign of nervousness but I kinda thought it was J. My daughter did volunteer work at an animal shelter and it is very unlikely, given his physical condition, he would be able to do that kind of work.
Great detail.
Whoa, that's a very rational thought.
I felt that Jay was a psychopath from the beginning when he unapologetically jumped ahead of the line instead of waiting his turn. He gave off those vibes the entire time. It's hard to believe no one noticed.
Yep...in the first few seconds as they were showing people in the line-up, before they spoke, I chose Jay. Psychopaths - like all Narcissists, believe they are special & believe everyone is beneath them. The fact he was looking unkempt compared to the others & sat due to a disability- yet had the pose of arrogance. Lots of people have disabilities but you can tell when they exude compassion.
Yess! And he was the "caring" guy volunteering at the dog shelter hahaha
But said to the girl in the first round: "we got you out crazy girl!" Like wth
isn't it a bit cruel to see jay and anyone who is psychopath this way??
He dresses like the stereotypical psychopath, so most people assume that he was there as a false psychopath to lead people into the wrong choice.
He’s extremely confident likable and easy going that’s how i knew it’s him
My first hint was when he answered before Eli. Psychopaths don't regard others usually.
Right!! I knew from that moment it was Jay especially when he didn't apologize afterwards - then his answers all sounded way too good to be true plus he was the most charming out of the entire bunch lmfao... Also this is kind of a meaningless anecdote but you can kinda see it in his eyes that he's just not all there loool
I knew right when he said he worked with animal shelters that he was lying
@@roxannemason5198 not true. you can not see in his eyes that he's "just not all there". bullshit.
wow when the psychopath isn't caught everyone becomes clueless and when he is caught everyone becomes a detective
@@triputuThese people live lives where they don't pay attention to anything. Honestly, that dude Jay was mega suspect the moment he walked in. I'll tell you how to notice someone that thinks they're special. The attitude, by him sitting like that and talking in the voice he does is strike 1. The eyes, he looks like he doesn't even want to be there. He thinks that there's no threat in that room so he looks bored, strike 2. The cane, the cane might be because of a medical condition. it's easy to notice when someone thinks that they look badass with it. The way the dude holds it is like if he were in a movie and that'd for sure be the first thing he'd swing at you if you came at him,lol. Point is, a well behaved person wouldnt be holding something they need to walk like it was a bat that's ready to swing, strike 3. There's also a lot of other flaws though those were the ones everyday people can probably notice after I put this comment
"If I didn't vote for myself it would've been a tie. And I could've talked myself out of that as well"
that right there
I think he was bored at that point.
I got it right. His over emotional answer gave it away, his strategies are in creating rapport and alliance with answers people want to hear instead of authenticity. So easy to spot.
“You’re the one crying”
Foreshadow.
And the way she replied "I love him!" He had her completely fooled.
@@wxywawjy626 the other girl has experience with narcissism and spotted it
@@nanomia yes! I saw that too 👀
How?
The way Jay closes his eyes after the girls replies "I love him". I know that feeling. "Gotcha".
It’s the way everyone social distanced themselves from Jay after being revealed to be the psychopath 💀
The fear
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Yeah that royally pissed me off
😞...
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As an introvert it's so annoying when all the introverted people got voted out just because they were more reserved. Also, as an empath I've had my fair share of exes who were probably psychopaths and narcissists and spotted J from a mile away. Poor Tommi fell for his bullshit so easily, they really need to be careful!
Sameeeee. I specially identify with Ryan. Not only for being an introvert and also Libra zodiac like myself xD but the way he was kinda awkward when having to talk and be the spot of attention cause it obviously makes him uncomfortable but when he was not the spot his expressions were so natural and honest. I trusted him since beginning cause I'm like this too.
Your not an empath . Cut the fairytale bullshit
@@Starfish0. You weirdos identify with anything and everything except yourself
@@MIKEx2112??? U know that when people say they identify with someone its like saying they relate to them, right? Its not like an entire identity lol
They probably actually weren’t those things, bc it’s not that common. Anyone can display narcissistic tendencies, but that doesn’t make them a narcissist.
His way of speaking absolutely. He wants ppl to think he's this or that. Southside tough mama, Annie, talk to my mom everyday...I can feel it in his way of speaking. I am 45 with lots of experience with messed up ppl
I noticed from the beginning that he had trouble walking and was pretty old, the oldest out of them. With those two facts in mind my reasoning was that he wasn't there just for fun like everyone else and that he had a purpose there. Also not many diagnosed psychopaths are willing to participate in the show like this one, which narrows the amount of people with aspd who would have been there even more and that's why they got someone like J as their psychopath
I was initially suspicious of him because he spoke ahead of Eli and usually psychopaths are very self oriented so it felt like something a psychopath would do, but man he’s done an excellent job studying people.
Same! The psychologist became excited at that moment and I was surprised she mentioned Eli instead!
@@LuvThyMind29 these are both the things I thought then it took my sus away lol
These people live lives where they don't pay attention to anything. Honestly, that dude Jay was mega suspect the moment he walked in. I'll tell you how to notice someone that thinks they're special. The attitude, by him sitting like that and talking in the voice he does is strike 1. The eyes, he looks like he doesn't even want to be there. He thinks that there's no threat in that room so he looks bored, strike 2. The cane, the cane might be because of a medical condition though it's easy to notice when someone thinks that they look badass with it. The way the dude holds it is like if he were in a move and that'd for sure be the first thing he'd swing at you if you came at him,lol. Point is, a well behaved person wouldnt be holding something they need to walk like it was a bat that's ready to swing, strike 3. There's also a lot of other flaws though those were the ones everyday people can probably notice after I put this comment
@@legitaf5072 everything you wrote is nonsense and you are full of it
@@phillipcummings3518 might be too hard to comprehend for children or idiots
"You won't know unless they tell you" type of situation. Crazy how everyone thinks of psychopaths as the most reserved and introverted ppl in a group when they are usually the most charming and seemingly open and friendly.
Ikr
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The way he revealed himself was super psychopathic
Dude wanted to feel badass, that's how most of these bums work
@@legitaf5072yup
@@legitaf5072why call him a bum, what’d he do that was so bummy to you
@@legitaf5072rude
@@legitaf5072Bum? Pretty sure the lady explained that it really ain’t their fault for having this disorder
SPOILER:
The way Jay immediately switched personality and aura afterwards is crazy
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I got goosebumps when he did
Could it have been the music change tho?
@@GuillermoSperglovayou wouldn’t like me then, I change my (outward) personality once or twice a day
It's in the eyes. If you look at Jay's eyes, there are moments when he doesn't blink at all. Full stares during conversations and lack of blinking is a sign.
People probably assumed a psychopath to be good looking.. but no he just needs to be confident and charming and not have to be physically attractive at all
i was assuming more to be very well put together, like clothes style was. but not all psychopaths are prob the same
In reality all psychos are ugly not like in movies
@@Max4Zhe’s playing the “wacky Jimmy Saville“ method of flying under the radar by presenting as a weirdo from the jump
Uh.... no why in the world would you think that? In fairness I always thought narcissists were good looking and psychopaths are also narcissists if memory serves.
You described a narcissistic personality, not a psychopath.
I immediately knew it was Jay before he even said anything just by the look on his face. There was an instant glibness and glazed over look in his eyes that gave it away for me. The eyes never lie, chico.
thank you. like 'i know everything'
I clocked that too. Plus his passive aggressive jokes
Yessss I spotted that too! What got me was his answer to someone crying. He said, idk you’re the one crying and then smiled. Like what is funny about someone crying???
I knew before you did tho
Me too. The eyes are the gateway straight to the soul yo'!
The fact that no one is talking abt how sweet he was at the end when he revealed himself and how nice of a person he actually seems like is crazy
The problem is that everyone thinks psychopaths are crazed murderers
Can't get past the uncanny energy of him blending in perfectly while having the most opposite of vibes ever. I think he's great, but I'm also definitely thinking about the fact of
@@limbo7459they are not but they do lack empathy. They will never feel your pain.
@@JA-rq9hmOkay? Empathy is complicated and just because someone can't relate to you doesn't mean they can't feel love.
@@12toro Psychopaths by definition can not feel love.
I knew it was Jay, psychopaths are good liars and know how they are perceived as well as getting perceived as a caring person.
The psychopath will be the most charismatic one in the room, yet there will be a gut feeling that something's 'off' about them.
Not everyone gets that gut feeling.
You both are so correct.
Lmao. Ok. I guess someone from the Nightmare before Christmas would have that sort of gut instinct.
@@Randy-rd9zb 🤣🤣🤣STOP IT 🤣🤣🤣
Jay came off as a sweetheart.
I knew it was him from the very beginning. He just stood out to me. I guess it helps that I work in psych and have a close friend with the disorder. There is a certain lack of fear, lack of awkwardness, eye contact, lack of emotion, and gift of gab he has. I'm surprised they picked the shy awkward people.
Probably because we hear that mass shooters fit the quiet, awkward type more
@@ChildrensRightsFirst947 Good point. Most sociopaths I've met are just people who are carefree (lack much worry), fearless, never socially awkward or nervous, and are not violent people (even most of the jailbird diagnosed ASPD's I met who get into trouble). It's like there is a certain "vulnerability" that they lack.
Everybody expects a serial killer type (which many are sociopaths, but some killers are just angry or malicious or insecure or just plain bad people).
Same-being in the field does allow you to become more familiar with patterns and the feelings behind them become associated, until there’s some system of abstraction behind it and you can just tell.
How do you have a close friendship with a diagnosed psychopath? Is it just one-sided?
@@peanut_toast999exactly
Spoilers
I had my suspicions on Jay for the exact reason that people didn’t. He was very charming and likable, which is something that psychopaths become very good at in order to fit in with normal people. Everyone liked him which just goes to show how good psychopaths are at blending in.
Yep
Yes, but he was also flat and monotone , which is a dead give away.
Yes he could talk himself so well out of things...
Especially when someone said he d least expect him
Same dude same. It was the very reason I was suspecting him.
am i the only one who doesnt think hes charming. i couldnt spot the psychopath, but at least im not the type that easily manipulated xD
it’s crazy how they viewed Eli’s reaction to getting interrupted as psychopathic, a psychopath wouldn’t care, a narc tho…
After years of bartending, I picked up a sixth sense where I could just read people! I knew it was him the first time I saw him. Just an air of arrogance, aloofness, etc that an older gentleman with a disability would not normally project. Just something off…
Tommi is the absolute cutest! She gives off such positive and loving energy. I can tell she's an amazing person to be around. I hope her recovery is successful
she was falling for the psycho men 🤦🏽♀️ always the kindest people that get caught why 😢😢😢 wishing the best for her🎉
wdym falling@@baddestxoxo2love767
Infantilizing people that have diagnosed mental illnesses is 💀
Clearly an undiagnosed psychopath 👌
@@shotono3286 Where? Calling someone “the cutest” isn’t infantilizing them smh. You’re looking for reasons to be offended and throwing words around at this point lmao
I still feel like Eli has some dark secrets
💯💯his eyes look evil
nah bruh chris looks like a psycho
I could imagine it beiging ADHD with the way he is moving all the time
Oh he’s a pyscho just undiagnosed, like dude gave me such sus vibes
He reminds me of my boss who has a constant raised lip/snarl and no emotion in his eyes
I was HSP INFP kid who feels extreme empathy while my dad was a psychopath. Rags to rich and very well loved politician lol
HE TRAUMATIZED ME SO MUCH BECAUSE NOONE BELIEVED ME, IT WAS I WAS UNGRATEFUL FOR MY SO KIND CHARMING FATHER.
What the f is HSP INFP stop putting tags on yourself
@@chinki-j2t it's 'highly sensitive person' and INFP is a personality type from the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator. easy google search
You can see Jay looking around at moments where everyone laughs to make sure hes laughing along sided the group.
riiiiight i noticed it as well like he look ath other peoples like they are prey
look at 2:55 how Jays eyes changes when he is alone with the camera vs when he is around the group, they get ”evil” almost as a wink, he is playing a game and he enjoys it. He asked the question of how trustworthy people are, this is a very specific question that normal people dont think about but it is suuuper important for psychopaths since trustworthy people are far easier to manipulate. Then when he votes for himself in the last round he also likes to play this manipulation game which is a clear sign.
I used to be friends with a psychopath.I had J sussed from the first few seconds. The way he tried to talk before Eli and didnt even think about apologising. He was just "yeah are we continuing, oh".
Yep. It was obvious and should have been obvious to everyone especially the psychologist...but apparently it wasn't. We have the wrong people in these jobs 😉
i haven't even assumed it was him, he was nice but also not that nice, i thought him and the two girls at the end were like a distraction because they are all in some alt outfits and it would be someone like Eli or Ryan
did u say alt outfits 💀
I was raised by a psychopath (sociopath, diagnosed, jn the 70s though, when it was still the original diagnosis) and the best advice i can give ANYone is a psychopath is often "on", i.e. overly friendly, someone you really think is super warm, and never really turns it off. Jay gave me chills immediately. They're unassuming, excellent liars, and have studied human behavior so very well, that the closest indicator I've found is... unfortunately.. the ones you'd least expect (for the average person). For me, it's something about the eyes, and how had they work at seeming like everyone else. That part never really stops like it does for normal people when we get behind closed doors.
Stay safe out there. ❤
They like to play with others, like jay did, they are often extroverts and like to talk a lot and control the room, they are more object focused (how he said he'd give her ice cream and french fries) and there's a lot of patterns and je ne sais quoi. I am better at detecting narcs than psychopaths but I'm pretty good at the latter too. Problem is no one believes you. Also just the way Jay presented himself.
My narcissistic ex friend is like this
so how good was your relative psychopath at parenting? have he raised a criminal or it all fine but a bit creepy ?
Take care of you, you’re strong ❤
Take care, your strong❤
Old video I know, but psychopath is not a derogatory term. It's a set of 20 traits that predict criminal behavior, the facets are Affective, interpersonal, Anti-social and Lifestyle. Psychopaths have a proclivity for anti-social behavior, but not always. Also, ASPD is mostly regarded as a disorder of aggression and disregard for rules, psychopathy is a nigh-complete lack of empathy and conscience, which is arguably worse and not to be excused as a "Glitch in their matrix" like the psychologist mentions.
The fact that everyone was slightly inching away from Jay at the end😭
Lmfao
I caught that too 🤣
me too metaphorically
to me it looks like they re moving away to look at him more easily
So I actually picked him. My strategy was to pick the person I least suspected because I remember being told that psychopaths are MASTER manipulators. They are the best liars you will ever meet. They have perfected how to act "normal" when it suits them.
I knew it was Jay. His eye roll when Eli spoke was so telling
I was stumped until the last round when there were I think 6 left. Jay was the only one of them with relaxed body language. All the others displayed some level of anxiousness and posture. They need to make another one of these!
i would just lay down on the floor and try to nap because this would be boring for me...also i do not understand body language nor why they would feel anxious...its not like they gave the guy a weapon, let alone him showing sign of murderous intent(didn't look or sound angry)
“We don’t use the word phsycopath anymore”
Continues to use it the whole video 😂
@@dakidokinoyes, but it’s not a formal diagnosis. Especially for children, because of the negative stigma. When I was young, I was diagnosed with “conduct disorder” which is what usually happens. Only at ages 15-18 and older, do they re-evaluate to see if it is actual aspd. Of course it can be obvious at a young age which children are psychopaths and which ones aren’t
@@dakidokinoIsn't it the reverse of that? All psychopaths have ASPD but not every ASPD diagnosis is for psychopathy. ASPD covers both that and sociopathy so someone with an ASPD diagnosis could have either sociopathy or psychopathy.
@@dakidokino lot of bro science in there, psychopathy literally isn't a medical diagnosis
It's not the diagnostic term but it's still used as ASPD is not actually the same thing. Only a small percentage of ASPDs are actual psychopaths
Entirely unable to spot one ...
I bawled in Click what do y’all mean?! You’re telling me, seeing Sandler lose his wife and kids because he wasn’t living in the moment didn’t get to you?! Seeing his kids grow literally in a blink of an eye.. him falling in the rain after chasing them calling for Ben and Samantha didn’t bring ANY tears to your eyes?!
Right that was the saddest movie that was given I knew it wasn’t him after that haha
BRO I WATCHED IT ON MY BIRTHDAY, BECAUSE IT WAS ADAM SANDLER I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FUN.
I knew he wasn't a psychopath because that answer, that movie had me bummed for a couple of weeks 😭
I'm glad this comment was here, Easily the saddest movie out of the bunch.
The first time I watched this I was SURE it is not Jay and was super supprised at the end. Though I was extremely tired and it was 1am.
Now watching it again it seems it should have been obvious: Jay was extremely passive agressive and confrontational towards others while talking extremely highly of himself and making ”cute little self ironic jokes” about what a ”lovely, wholesome guy he is”. Also the extensive crime history.
I should’ve trusted intuition over trying to think this one out. He had such quick, smooth responses to things and overall just seemed like he had NO nerve - I knew it was suspicious but I tried to logic this one out and wound up more confused than anything
I was looking for signs of nervousness and anxiety and got it right. In public stress situations like this it is easier to spot the one who stays cool.
This all the way. I had no doubt it was J from the start to finish
Or if you look in the beginning he had his mouth closed while everyone said “I’m not a psychopath”
Good point. Never thought about it that way
It's not the psychopath you have to fear it's the psychopath who is also a sadist
Like the presenter who asked the psychologist if she knew that one of the traits of a psychopath is not looking at the toilet paper after wiping
No you should fear both the psychopath and the sadist
@@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution not all psychopaths are dangerous. Just because they don't feel emotions the same way as others does it mean they have a compulsion to do what they know is morally and socially unacceptable. Psychopaths still know what's wrong and right. My point is if someone's a sadist and a psychopath that's a four worst combination and I'm sure every serial killer that's ever existed were those two things. Not every psychopath is a serial killer however
@@ProgressIsTheOnlyEvolution however to your point, many people in powerful positions politically and at the heads of companies are psychopaths. This is a known fact and it does affect their morality and ethics as far as business is concerned. This is why we have so many people at the top doing backdoor deals and taking care of themselves and letting people under them struggle. That's a totally different discussion but one that is pertaining to the topic
@@Chris-of6xm Exactly. I completely agree with you. I would actually argue that most rich peoples ahead of big corporations and companies are psychopaths. And a lot of political leaders are too.
I think it is a very relevant discussion, considering the influence psychopaths has on todays world, which also tend to produce narcissists like we see in this video.
I knew it was him when he first walked into the room. Reminded me of my unhealthy husband who was also diagnosed psychopath.
If you cant love anyone, youre not loving yourself and it shows.
Are you trying to say that fat people are psychopaths…???
It's pretty wild how your gut tells you who it is but then the lies make you forget that feeling until it's too late.
100 🎉🎉
I knew it! Jay convinced everyone to vote against Airracks girlfriend; and interrupted Eli! Both decisions seemed tactical, and they worked! Thank you for these videos. They’re awesome! Keep it up🙌🏻
The funny part is that he didn't even vote for her and he then said: "We got you, you crazy lady".
@@baskeplaye009 really great sense of humor and improvisational skills.
That poor blonde girl's DEFINITELY never gonna trust anyone again now 😂 she was stunned!
Jay is my quess.
Unhealthy.
Interrupts.
Puts focus on another.
I knew that he is the psychopath from the beginning. He interrupted the guy before him on the first question. Psychopath always try to dominate, control and intimated people around them.
You described a narcissistic personality. That description alone doesn't mean they are a psychopath.
@@szszszsz95395all psychopaths are narcissists but not all narcissists are psychopaths
Yep absolutely. It was easy to tell. The psychologist in the video was terrible.
@@szszszsz95395 Actually there is a lot of similarities between narcissists and psychopaths, and this is why the show tried to make it seem it was so hard to spot the psychopath, because most of the other contestants were narcissist. But it is not actually that hard. Memo6733 is right. He interrupted the guy before him on the first question. Psychopath always try to dominate, control and intimated people around them.
@@leroyjenkins6809 Exactly!
I knew it has Jay when I first saw him and only got further suspicious… he was the only one that held composure throughout the entire thing and his eyes looked dead no matter how sincere he seemed
I‘m so worried about myself, because i didn’t see the thing with the dead eyes. I rather found them warm, before the mask fell.
The best part was the Genuine look of stock and surprise on the licenced psychologists face when the Antisocial individual was identified. This is important.
Yep they should do one where they test psychologists to see if they can find them
Yeah, it shows that psychiatry/psychology is pseudoscience, and based solely on the subjective opinions of very biased and brainwashed human “experts”.
I knew it was 100% him when he said he volunteered at a dog shelter 😂
The problem with this is everyone should’ve been psychoanalyzed before hand because there are tons of people who do not know they are psychopaths
Psychopaths are often the people you suspect the least. They don't feel empathy or awkwardness so they thrive in social situations
“I’m not a psychopath because I’m not on any medication”, yeah neither are psychopaths lmao
Even the professional therapist didn't know. Psychos are good.
When J is revealed that he is psycopath my mind is blown up
Bro the top comment is a spoiler 😢
STOP SPOILING
@@not_itrwatch before reading comments
Bro I guessed it was him at the start
@@JPlayzCEO yea anyone could with a smartbrain he looks psycho just look at his outfit
To me, what Jay gave away was how confidnet he was while saying things and telling stories, too chill and almost theatrical. Most psychopaths are really good liars so I just paid attention to how he was telling stories and answering. I also got suspicious when the girl on the farthest right asked if anyones ever been in therapy or is currently, Jay just looked around and didn't even answer. It's incredibly interesting that hes an older guy as well so all that experience and age made him overall more conifident and straightforward. Also the public speaking at the beginning kinda already gave him away.
I guessed it was him even before they began talking. I noticed that he had trouble walking and was pretty old, the oldest out of them. With those two facts in mind my reasoning was that he wasn't there just for fun like everyone else and that he had a purpose there. Also not many diagnosed psychopaths are willing to participate in the show like this one, which narrows the amount of people with aspd who would have been there even more and that's why they got someone like J as their psychopath
Ngl, when she said, "what kind of ice cream?" and he said, "you're the one crying," I was all, "ooh, too nice, he's the one."
I had a close relative who was a psychopath and it was Charm City every day.
I wanted Jay not to be, because I liked him. But it's always the ones you like.
I had already picked J out as the psychopath within the 1st minute. Interestingly when J said "I don't know you're the 1 crying," about what kind of icecream- that answer was too distant & lacked feeling. He was removing himself from her emotion of crying & he said it with a fraction of disgust. A truly kind person would've said "...your favourite icecream witha cherry on top to cheer you up." This would've linked the kind gesture to the eventual image of the crying girl being happy. In J's answer the image left was the girl still crying.
Same, that’s when the alarm bells started ringing in my head. Usually people would use different wording in this situation. ”You’re the one crying” sounds like you don’t truly recognize that the person is hurting and you treat it as an inconvenience.
@@saeranchoi3343 yes, but the intended impression is, "you get anything you want!" It's facile. It's a little bit, "come look in my van, little girl! I have kittens AND candy!"
Too open too soon. No boundaries
@@mymai5859 but Tommy was so happy with his answer
“Schindler’s List”
“That’s a weird answer!”
Bro what!? lol
I tear up almost every time I watch that movie. Not weird at all. You sure you’re not the psychopath?? 😆
Haha I knew it was Jay from the start cuz he’s extremely confident way he carries himself and very likable
also knew it from the beginning. I noticed that he had trouble walking and was pretty old, the oldest out of them. With those two facts in mind my reasoning was that he wasn't there just for fun like everyone else and that he had a purpose there. Also not many diagnosed psychopaths are willing to participate in the show like this one, which narrows the amount of people with aspd who would have been there even more and that's why they got someone like J as their psychopath. Him being there was already sus lol
@@qwrhx also most people have average iq😞
The psychopath was my initial intuitive guess. Always go with what your gut tells you at the beginning, before you doubt yourself.
Jay was an incredible actor, and he has to be in order to make it in this life. He knows social cues better than most people, and watching the video again, you can see only a few signs at most that he is psychopathic.
I know a person with ASPD with narcissistic tendencies, the most obvious signs with that person for me (besides years of just pain caused by the person) is the straight up cruel sense of humor, not just edgy humor but you can just tell how cold it is, just ridicule and overt laughing. As well as disregard for norms and etiquette. Also how they interact socially, there’s something disconnected about it. It’s like they’re talking at you and putting on a show or they just ooze indifference. That and also how if they charm a more vulnerable person, they instantly get dominant in a subtle way to where the vulnerable person starts to try to please them or justify the ASPD person’s behaviour. Because of how strong their frame tends to be, the ASPD person.
The last one is their anger, this person i know, her eyes just go black and she just bulldozes you.
Jay is so freaking obvious. He deathstares everyone without the death stare being personal at all, and in a really calculated still cold manner. There are other signs too like extremely non-vulnerable smiling, interrupting people, seemingly well crafted fast answers that indicate a calculated personality in crafting those answers, etc.
Johnny Depp
What do you mean by non vulnerable smile?
@@ebbiemusumali8301trully, I believe he is deeply troubled
The reveal had no business being so freakin thrilling. I jumped
Yeah that was some horror movie shit. Scary how someone can be so cold but mask it so well... freaky.
Who says you cant judge a book by its cover, his appearance and smugness in general immediately triggered my spider senses
I love how the psychopath said he volunteers at a dogshelter even tho he can’t even stand up for 99% of the video and nobody thought that was weird or something