Can the Wagner W100 Spray Masonry Paint?
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2020
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Quick video here as a follow up to my review of the Wagner W100 spray gun. Thanks to Paul McGrath for asking the question and I hope I’ve managed to give a satisfactory answer to: ‘Can the Wagner W100 spray masonry paint?’
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You've just saved me trialling this myself, Ta mate
You're welcome 👍
What a great help this post was. I have just started to paint my rendered wall at the back of my house and though it was hard work, thought I'd purchase a spray gun. Looks like I will just have to carry on with the roller but you have saved me the money thanks Leo I've just subscribed great show very well presented.
Thanks Lennie for your very kind feedback, much appreciated 😀👍. Now back to the roller and the house painting! 😂😂
Thanks mate really good of yah to try it out I was going to buy one with masonry paint in mind won't bother now 👍👍
Cheers Danny 😀👍
Cheers for the info. Good luck with the painting.
Cheers Benedict😀👍
Great presentation.we have been working out way with a roller and thought about sprayer.so pleased we watched this .subscribed,handy to have you there!.thank you .
Thanks Tonky Sue for the kind feedback and subscribing, much appreciated 👍👍. Best wishes, Leo 😀👍
Fair play leo... This is very informative and truthfull thanks
Thanks johno. As much as I wanted it to work it just wasn’t going to happen
@@Hand-i-Craft thanks for reply i was hoping too but your video was so truthfull which is rare these days keep up the videos there very helpfull and im a tradesman
Cheers johno👍😀
Thank you Leo, yes this is what i wanted to know.
Cheers Dhaval for the feedback, much appreciated 👍😀
Thanks for the heads up. i have some garden rendered walls to paint so i will us e the old fashioned brush and roller 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Me too Kevin, brush and roller it is unfortunately 👍👍
The wagner w590 is excellent for spraying masonry paint,its a bit dearer than the w100 but holds about a litre of paint and is ideal if you dont want to spend big money on a sprayer and just want it for smaller jobs,i have used it for spraying pebbledash with a 10% mix of water and it does a great job,i would still class it as a budget sprayer due to its price but ive used it several times on smaller jobs and very pleased with it
Cheers for the message Edmond and really interesting to read your experience with the 590👍👍😀😀
Nicely done Leo 😁. I am so so glad you came to the conclusion you did 🤔🤔🤔. I have only just finished painting ALL of the nasty pebble dash on my house... with a brush 😡. I must have spent about an hour trying to push masonary paint through my spray gun (it was like pushing custard out of a syringe), so I did think of getting something like this.... glad I didn't 😁. Thanks for the video Leo 😁👍.
Blimey Frank that must have taken forever😳! I thought it was worth doing a quick follow up as I had a feeling it wasn’t just going to be one person who’d ask that question after the original video. I’m glad I checked as I’d initially presumed it wouldn’t be an issue, but it appears that I’ve found the Wagner’s kryptonite 😂
@@Hand-i-Craft it took weeks 🙁. I just managed to get the paint when I was on lockdown, was all ready to start.... then had to go back to work 😡. So had to do it at the weekends.... don't they know I've got RUclips videos to make 😂🤣😂. Thanks Leo 😁👍
Spray gun for sadtex wall
Thanks for sharing 😊
Denise Bucknall Cheers Denise 😀👍
Thanks for sharing this info, had the same idea and it's not really feasible it seems.
Not worth the hassle nemz, it’s great for other paints / oils etc but not masonry. Best with a thick roller and a good brush 👍👍
Great review thanks.
Thanks Konnex😀😀👍👍
I managed to drill the nozzle bigger holes and was able to spray with smooth paint
@@paulseafood2892 Interesting Paul. How was the finish just out of interest?
Was considering buying this paint gun and smooth sandtex paint for my garage, this video has saved me time money and anger. Thanks for a good honest video 👍
Thanks Matt. I really wanted it to work for the very same reasons but it’s just not worth it I’m afraid. Cheers for the comment, best wishes, Leo 👍😀
@@Hand-i-Craft Da why did I not watch this before I ordered a spray gun. As you say there's conflicting info out there but I think your video hits the nail on the head. Thanks it saves me wasting my time trying
Identical spray gun to aldi one i only ever use masonry paint absolute no issues i add about 10% water does a great job
Great to hear about the Aldi model, but honestly I wouldn’t recommend this for masonry paint. I really wanted it to work as I’ve got loads that needed doing but the amount of dilution needed for the Wagner negated the usefulness of masonry paint.
I'll save my money and use a brush then. Thanks for the vid!
Brush or a nice thick roller Andy best for the job😀👍
Agreed. You don't want to be watering down masonry paint. It's better with an airless sprayer.
Cheers Ty 😀👍
That's such a shame Leo, but it's still a great bit of git and spraying masonry paint is definitely a specialist piece of kit I think.
karlpopewoodcraft Totally agree Karl. It is incredible that such a budget machine is capable of being so versatile, but I think masonry paint is just a kryptonite step too far. I’ve used it loads for fence panels, undercoat, satin and emulsion, but was really impressed when I experimented with the metal paint. Wish I’d have had it when I painted my garage door, it took me days and could have done it in a couple of hours with this thing😀
Oh how I wish it could spray Sandtex! We have a Spa Dash rendered old garage and it is hell to paint. Even a 1 inch pile roller can’t get into the crevices! It’s back to the old wrist-breaking brushing.
I wish as well pal, I have a wall I paint every other year and it is a nightmare!
I'm a painter and decorator by trade and i wouldn't think twice about watering down masonry paint, yes you'll have to do more coats but the speed and finish compared to using a roller or brush wins every time.
Id recommend 3:1 paint to thinner, don't worry about the effectiveness of watered down paint, along as you get good coverage and it doesn't rain before the paint has dried, bearing in mind that water will take longer to dry than a solvent-based thinner.
This is my opinion, its worked for me but your mileage may vary
res1492 Cheers for this res, much appreciated 😀. I just think this Wagner model isn’t suited, even 50 / 50 mix ratio wasn’t really working. Just out of interest, have you tried masonry paint with this model?
@@Hand-i-Craft To be fair no i haven't used that model, I'm sorry i should have made that clear in my comment...i use the Wagner Flexio 3000
Been a painter 50 years never heard solvent drying quicker than water based paints
@@williamgorman893 You are correct, i got it the wrong way round..a whole year and no one corrected me, that embarrassing.
Thank you for pointing it out
Great video. I was wondering if I could set up my gun to paint the gravel boards and the posts.... I think a 40/60 paint/water mix would be okay but I will have to take out my panels because the over spray means you would pretty much have to mask up the whole panel anyway.....especialy if the fence is Corpse Silver from Cuprinol. Mind you, I could just turn down the gun when it comes to the edges and only use the smaller nozzle rather than the blade, that might work..... I am deffo trying this in the coming weeks as summer looms! :)
Cheers for the message and sorry for late reply. Suppose you could do what you said with the mix but make sure it’s smooth masonry paint. With that ratio though you’d probably have to do quite a few layers and with all the hassle of shifting the panels it might be just as quick to use a brush and a thick pile roller 🤷♂️. Good luck either way 😀👍
@@Hand-i-Craft I've done the panels. It does come out thin, disappointingly thin so I had to do it again a week or two later. Not got to the whites yet as it's still so cold but I think I will try brushing it on thick, it might mean only the one attempt if I do.
You need the ispray nozzle it fits the w100 and will spray masonry paint. You Can get one on Amazon £35
Cheers evertonian, I’ll look into that 👍😀
I think you might need to try the Wagner 590, a lot more powerful
Thanks for the message banzaiman and I am sure they are a better and more powerful product. I think that extra power etc comes as greater cost so I guess budget does have a part to play in selecting which sprayer 👍
When I did my painting apprenticeship we used the original sandtex, awful stuff it's got more sand than skeggy beach
😂😂There’s no chance the original stuff will work with this sprayer. The smooth stuff hardly coped so best these two products just stay away from each other😀
The first coat of masonry paint is usual;y watered down, use a brush of a roller for a second & third undiluted coat.
Cheers for the tip Bob 👍👍
Hi, I was using a water-based external paint, after a couple of fill-ups the W100 started to struggle, was spitting and blobbing. Do I need to wash it out more? Thanks for your help.
Maybe try a viscosity cup pal to see if it needs thinning out. One might come with it or you can pick one up for a few quid👍👍
Is likely to cause a bit of a risk of overspray ending up somewhere you really don't want it being
Very true Clark. I suppose with every spray gun you run the risk of overspray, but factor in if you heavily dilute the product the risk of overspraying is even greater
Will it spray Ronseal chalky furniture paint ...?? I want to do my kitchen cabinet doors....
Sorry charvais I don’t know the answer to this one as I’ve never used chalky furniture paint before, never mind in the sprayer. Unfortunately I can’t compare it to any paint I’ve used either as I don’t know the texture of it
Hi Leo. I bought a W100 for spraying internal emulsion on walls to touch up following initially spraying with my 250 Pro sprayer. It’s really struggling with it. Very light coverage and spitting paint out. I started at 10% dilution and have gradually worked up to 70 water/ 30 paint and it’s still not good. Think I’ve maybe wasted my cash.
Hello Whitey, cheers for the message. Ok, based on what you’ve said and information I’ve had from viewers since making this, this could be one of a few things. Some of these ideas are from other people so I can’t fully verify their accuracy. Firstly the paint, if it’s that treacle like stuff like Dulux one coat or Dulux easy care you’ve no chance getting it through this sprayer. Trade paint like Johnstones or Leyland it copes fine as the paint is much less viscous and only requires minimal thinning with water. Secondly, someone told me about using a filter when pouring the paint which helps to prevent clot like blobs from blocking your nozzle. Thirdly, can I ask it is ok spraying thinner products evenly? If there is a uneven or poor spray pattern with thin paint or even water it could be a faulty nozzle and need replacing. Is the nozzle clear and clean as this will obviously affect the spray pattern. Let me know how you get on and if I think of anything else I’ll get back to you 👍
@@Hand-i-Craft hi Leo, many thanks for the reply. I’m using Johnstones brilliant white emulsion, but hadn’t filtered it. As the sprayer was new I assume that the nozzle would be clear so maybe not that. I haven’t used it yet for spraying stains or primers/gloss etc so I’m unable to judge that. It seemed to spray water fine so hopefully, thinner liquids will be fine.
I went to hire one and got a brand new one, first use, I went as much as 50/50 water masonry paint and could not get it work or the paint was SO watery it just ran, so it is useless at masonry paint folks
That’s exactly what I found out too 👍👍
Hi, Have you got a compressor, I can’t remember if you have one or not, anyway if you have one and got that nasty 5 bit accessory bundle it included a cheap sprayer, if you bought am expensive spray gun please don’t use that but the cheap one will work fine with the paint thinned by 10%. I don’t think the gun will be much good after for anything else but then I wouldn’t try using that to spray a car or something of that nature in the first place.
Alright John, I do have a compressor, but it is a small capacity ‘tabletop’ one from Rutlands that I use for a brad gun and my vacuum clamps. I will be investing in a larger compressor but that will be when the workshop eventually gets built hopefully sometime in the near future😀
whats your opinion on painting solid brick walls (no cavity). i want to do it as it looks so much better. but people saying to me you should never paint brick as its not breathable and would trap moisture? what is your opinion on this? are people just over the top
I’m not an expert on this, but my recommendation would be to go to one of your local paint merchants like Brewsters or Dulux trade. I think there are paints available that are ‘breathable’ so suitable for what you are suggesting 👍👍
Could you use the spray gun for spraying walls with a lime wash.
Hello Michael, I've never done it but I see no reason as to why it wouldn't work. Is lime wash just like a solution with a watery consistency? If yes then it will be fine. Just make sure you clean it out properly after use👍
@@Hand-i-Craft Yes I have an old granite house in Ireland and thought it would be better with a spray gun as you need to do a number of coats to get a strong white look. lime would suite the walls as the mortar between the granite is lime based so needs to breath. Lime wash would do nicely.
I've tried spraying lime wash with a sprayer and struggled. The bits just keep clogging and doesn't matter how much you water it down it will still clog. A lime brush is what you need.
Where can i buy this? Or where to order this product.
Hello Reynante, there is a link in the description if you want to check it out👍😀
can this gun be used to paint interior (plasterboard)
Don’t see any reason why not Barun. You’d have to turn the power right down as it is quite a powerful spray gun to not risk lots of overspray, but apart from that shouldn’t be a problem 👍
@@Hand-i-Craft cheers mate, Wagner promotes it as wood and metal paint sprayer so i was confused if it was suitable for other application, thanks for the reassurance
Will it spray latex paint?
Sorry Neil, can’t help you on that one. It will spray acrylic primer no problem, but I don’t know if latex paint is similar in viscosity or ability to be thinned down as I’ve never tried it. Sorry I can’t be of more help
Yes you can, but don't do it...😆
Are the nozzles in those guns changeable? 🤔
The actual central nozzle appears fixed Bill so if that fails, the whole front section will need replacing. As an experiment it was worth finding out, but I certainly won’t be doing it again and wouldn’t recommend it to anyone 😀
Better with a brush roller by the looks of it ha.
Definitely Craig😀😀👍
It can't clearly.
kanda kumar I think this video clears this up kanda. Had a few questions in my previous video so I thought it best to clear this up👍😀
I agree....useless for outdoor masonry painting full stop.
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you are not supposed to mix the paint with water ! it loses the initial properties.
That’s why I said don’t do it 👍👍👍
Sacrilege painting a wall !.Now you have to paint it every 3/4 years .Also if anyone gets a contractor in to sand blast
paint on bricks ,they will not give you a guarantee ,because it can and will destroy the bricks. And if you are selling the house it down values .!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! leave the bricks alone.
Sorry to hear about your sandblasting incident
Thanks for the video. Now I know not to buy one.
Cheers John 👍
That sprayer is garbage
How so Jamie? You’ve commented on it in a video where I clearly say it’s not suitable for spraying masonry paint, but that doesn’t make it garbage. It’s just not suitable for masonry paint, like most sprayers
@@Hand-i-Craft Thanks for your reply, I've also watched other traders review this tool and the only way they could get it to work was with a dilution of up to 30%. The wagner 350m is the way to go.
That's with normal emulsion not masonry
@@jamieb1826 Fair dos Jamie. My main video on this sprayer shows what I’ve seen as the adaptability of it and I demonstrate first hand it spraying a variety of different paints including Ronseal fence panel, acrylic primer undercoat, emulsion, hammerite metal paint, satinwood and oil based finishes to name a few. For the price in my opinion it represents great value, but if others feel otherwise then fair dos
Jamie, out of interest I’ve just checked the model you referenced (the 350m) and it is nearly 10 times the price of the W100 model I reviewed so that is hardly a fair fight 🤷♂️🤷♂️
It’s a piece of junk and a waste of money
It has worked well for me Paul but sorry to hear you have had a poor experience with it
@@Hand-i-Craft sprayed about 10sq m of 60/40 smooth masonry and overheated and died
Not saying it won’t last for years painting shed etc, but not suitable for masonry work
You would have to paint about five passes to make up for the mix ratio
@@pauls3204 Good point Paul, that’s why I done this video to say it’s unsuitable for masonry paint 👍👍