How to Spray Paint Walls and Ceilings Quickly - The Tool You MUST See!
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2023
- In this video we take a look at airless paint sprayers and i will show you how to paint a room quickly using a paint sprayer. Are paint sprayers worth the investment?, How quick are paint sprayers really?, do paint sprayers give a good finish? Find out the answer to all of these questions and more as we put the Wagner 250r paint sprayer through its paces!
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Do you think paint sprayers are worth it now you’ve seen the pros and cons?
I remain unconvinced about the time savings - it was particularly the masking I was thinking of, but clean up looks like a real time drain - esp if you have to do that to change colours etc. With a roller, you can just wrap the roller in a bag, move onto the next colour, carry on.
It's unhealthy breathing in overspray
Would agree with@@awt personally never really had the need long term for such a system.
But maybe and depending on the price, renting one could work? It is a fairly specific use case item I think? You will need to be doing quite a high m^2 to get the pay back. Given the price and just "rooms" use case maybe bumping from a 9" roller to a 12" or 18" roller would decrease some time.
None the less great video never seen airless system described in such an open and honest way, normally just Craig (Big Bother) showing you how much time you can save.
@@ZanderKaneUK I don't think many people rent them because people return them not properly cleaned and if the paint is dried into the machine then it's basically written off.
Yes to the sprayer for large areas inside and out, but no to spray tips (£60), extension rod (£90), guns & hoses. Accessories are extortionate.
Cheaper to hire guns 'n roses to paint your house.
When you e finished spraying empty your hose back into the paint so you don’t waste all the paint still inside the hose, filter and machine pipes. your cleaning time will be halved. Also buy some round bottle brushes to help keep your gun and filter housing super clean.
I pretty much wrapped my second machine in cling film and masking tape to keep the cling film in place, the hose also to help keep it all clean and looking like new. Once you get it shit up with paint splatter it just makes it look shit so you don’t take as time to care for it, these machines are brilliant if kept clean and looked after. Mine (Wagner 350 pro) has paid for itself 50 x over! Worth getting tit know the nozzle sizes too, the correct nozzle for the correct paint makes a huge difference in finish. 👍😊
Great honest video as ever thanks for sharing mate 😎
No problem 👍
Thank you for your sharing!
Your welcome 🤗
My tips for using this kit. 1. Get a whip hose as it will massively reduce wrist strain when using the sprayer for long periods of time. 2. Buy a Trade Tip 3 tip holder as this allows additional tips to be used including Fine Finish for gloss work. 3. Reduce the pressure, use a piece of cardboard as a test piece to ensure even spray pattern starting at a low pressure and fine tuning pressure. 4. Make sure you use the pencil filter in the gun as it traps loads or debris and allows continuous spraying (ime). 5. Never take short cuts when cleaning everything, whilst parts aren’t ridiculously expensive, they can take time to arrive and it gets tedious changing them in you’ve not cleaned everything properly (DAMHIK!). 6. It is possible to return paint held in the machine / hose on cleaning back to the paint can by setting tip to purge on low pressure, dunk the pick up un clean water and running to through until it gets watery, then run through into a bucket. I wouldn’t be without my sprayer!
Good tips 😊, cheers
and get rid of that poxy gun, get a wagner g10
@@ragandoilG10 is the much better gun and a great addition to this set up.
What tip is best for emulsion interior and do you dilute paint ?
@@liamcfitness I just use the supplied 517 for emulsion which does a good job. I tend to add around 10% water to emulsion and give it a good mix with a paint stirrer on my drill. My go to paints are either Johnstones Trade Covaplus or Leyland Super Leytex as they both have high opacity and give great coverage in my experience.
Impressed !!
😎
Excellent content and edit. Top job
Much appreciated!
Great video, Always the best videos
Glad you like them!
Very good / clear demonstration………
Glad it was helpful!
A tip for cleanup. Remove the plastic filter and black plastic filter holder from the bottom of the pickup tube. Remove the pickup tube and empty the paint out before using any water. clean the tube and refit. Then in prime mode put the pickup in clean water and spray (with the nozzle turned backwards) into a bucket with a liner until water comes out to remove the paint from the spray hose. After that run 1 - 2 buckets of clean water through the system followed by a quick clean up of nozzle and you're done. It takes me about 10 mins total to clean up. I use to do what you did and put the pickup full of paint with the filter on the end into a clean bucket and start flushing but due to the excess paint in the tubes it took way longer and 5-6 buckets of clean water. Loving the channel 👍
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One for the algo. Great channel.
Thanks 😊
Thanks for the honest review, it confirmed my belief that these have their specific use case like empty room renovations and if you fit that then great, but there’s a lot of prep and a lot of cleanup. I would be doubtful using this outside, can’t see me masking off the concrete fence posts or garden bushes! I have a cheap Lidl sprayer that does surprisingly well for fence panels etc
Your welcome 🤗
I am a paint training professional in all types of spraying equipment airless and conventional spraying. I have for home use a Wagner 350 airless unit low pressure gun. To be honest there is NO way you can spray airless with a gun extension without getting spitting out of the fluid tip, even on short extensions. You will need a CleanShot Shut-Off Valve - Swivel Joint from Grace fitted to the end of the extension to prevent paint spits when pulling or releasing the gun trigger. You get spitting when using any length of gun extension which can be very annoying and can spoil the paint job.
Nice and concise, thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Good tutorial. Well explained, thanks.
I bought this model some time ago when there was a deal on. I've got a whole house to do starting with bare plaster, including outside walls. I've not taken it out the box yet, as I wanted to wait until I've got a whole week clear. It's due to masking-up and cleaning time required.
However, I have done 4 rooms (kitchen & bathrooms) using an HVLP for the corners and wide roller for the larger areas. This worked well, but took a long time to do 1 mist coat and 2 top coats, and I still had to mask around switches, windows, etc.
In retrospect, if I'd used my Wagner from the start in the smaller rooms, I probably would have saved time and/or got more rooms done.
I can't see myself ever using this for a refresh job. Just too much aerosol floating around.
The biggest con is the price of nozzles. I can buy an entire small engine carburettor for less than a new Wagner nozzle, and there's dozens of different options depending on the paint and coverage you want. It's akin to printer ink rip-off in my opinion. And that small extension used in the video is nearly £100. Daylight robbery for a simple piece of plumbing.
Thanks for sharing, some good points raised
Love the channel
Thanks 😊
As part of my later in life jobs, I did carpentry and made furniture, part of it was spray staining the wood and then spray lacquering the finished item. Point being that there's an art to spraying, as Cameron says, spray straight on and do NOT linger, a puddle of lacquer is not good, nor are paint runs :) As for buying one, as Cameron also says, only worth it if you are going to be constantly making use of it, one off stuff, use a roller. Great video again, love the variety of stuff you are covering old man...Good on yer..
Great points and glad you enjoyed another vid 😊
What a truly beautiful video this is all I'm allowed to say Ney free gifts
Very good video 👍
Thank you 👍
So we bought this very machine to do a large bedroom and it was a real faff protecting everything. In our case the room had old carpet down so we decided not to protect it as it was going to be removed, however, by the end of the job the carpet was almost as white as the ceiling. The finish was perfect but we noticed we used twice as much paint Vs rollers, plus I felt bad about all that single use plastic going to landfill. Finally, a lot of paint is wasted through the gun and associated tubing and when you get close to the bottom of the tub you lose pickup. Would I use it again, NO but I will use it to spray my fence panels which is a bit of an overkill as my cheap Aldi sprayer does that perfectly well. Finally, you cannot use this machine for anything other that 5 litre tubs so forget furniture spraying because most of the 2.5ltr pots are virtually empty before you get it primed. Would I buy it again, definitely not
Thanks for sharing your experience
Get yourself a Graco CleanShot for when you use the extension mate. Decent video. As a general builder I do all my own decorating and embraced spraying a few years back. I’ve got a few machines now and have got my techniques down. It’s so much easier than brush and roller.
Thanks for sharing 👍
thanks good video
You're welcome
Thank you. Always worth seeing what a professional has to say about a piece of kit and its 'real' world use. One big con for me other than time in cleaning the machine. Is the cost of it. As a homeowner with 2 bedrooms to decorate at £469 or more. Not V.F.M IMHO.
Great point! Thanks very much
Good point I brought mine on ebay refurbished Lidl special for £46, did my entire house post refurbished with it, only issue now is touching up. It gave such a smooth finish its impossible to match unless you spray again or roller the entire wall 😂😂😂
Great video as always but might I suggest a supplemental covering tips for "parking" the equipment between coats, and / or prepping between colour / basecoat / topcoat changes?
Thanks. Good suggestion
I'd really love to see a comparison of this vs other known brands which are considerably cheaper such as mikita etc
I've bought one of these units after watching your video and wanted to know if you also experienced the gun losing pressure regularly and the pump all of a sudden running at a higher speed. Quite possibly a newbie issue but I found the pipes would move around and if even with there being a 1/3 of the bucket full of paint the bottom of the suction hose would come above the paint, requiring me to reprime. Also have you tried using this unit to paint trims? I could not get an even coat to come out using Leyland Eggshell for wood paint and the 311 tip. I diluted the paint also and just couldn't get an even spray.
I am really interested in this for our extension/renovation as it will all be one colour and we have vaulted ceilings to paint. One downside I have heard is when you need to touch up marks. apparently the spary finish is so even that any brushwork to cover marks will stick out like a sore thumb.
Give one a go. The downside is correct however worth it in my opinion
I will stick to a roller and bin it after use, no messing about cleaning equiptment. Also you cannot touch up sprayed surfaces at a later date, rollered or brushed surfaces you can.
Not using organic Merino wool roller sleeves, then?
Sooooo slow
You can sand it to smooth the touch up finish I suppose.
That's really wasteful.
Loved your video, by the way, which nozzle tip where you using and how much water are you putting in there?
mate do you dilute the paint for final coat or use as is?? cheers
How do you find later down the line when you want to touch up or repaint to freshen the room? The wall is very smooth compared to a roller. If you had to repaint - furniture, carpets etc woud be in the way sometimes. Would you spray or roller. Would it be advantageous for the last finish coat to just run a roller over the sprayed wall to make it more in keeping for a repaint?
They are a great time saver. The problem I found is when you need to touch up spots months/years down the line and you use a brush, you never seem to get the same finish/colour (even using the same paint).
That’s a great point worth noting!
Using a dry roller to back roll is what the pros do
The colour may have faded but you can smooth the finished surface sanding to try get it closer.Using trade paint like dulux costs more but it has anti fade and should last more like 10 years as opposed to retail off the shelf 5 years.
A handheld HVLP gun should give a very similar finish if you want to blend in or have a smaller project.
@@jayeshlad8619 Do you do that for each coat or just the first? I am guessing roll with all the coats you do.
You really should roll the wall after painting. If you get a 24" roller it goes very very fast. This will eliminate runs and give your surface an even texture. Also should only have to put down one coat.
If painting feature walls, what is the best masking tape that will not simply pull the last coat of the ceiling or adjacent walls? Do you have to wait for an extended time to do so?
When cleaning remove the guard/tip spray excess paint back into the paint tin (same with priming) then when when see what only then spray/clean through into a waste bucket
Great video thank you. I hope Dulux and Wagner are paying you lots of money...... Cheers.
I wish! 😂, thanks
Looks a great piece of kit mate! Did you get any blocking of the jet on the gun when leaving between coats? Or was a quick purge good enough to carry straight onto second coat?
I didn’t. I always turn my nozzle half way to reduce air being able to get into the nozzle. It was left a number of hours and had no issues carrying straight on.
I'd like to know how long can paint remain in the gun and hoses etc, ie 2hrs between coats - or does the cleaning process need to be done between coats?
Many decorators on new sites use these for the mist coats.
👍 a good use for them
It's a good idea to wear your safety spec's when painting the ceiling and not hold them in your hand !! 🤣 good bit of kit that.
How do you store the kit between coats?
did you dilute paint at all or use as is?
I’m new to spraying. I can’t find one good video on here on how to put the rubber gasket in the tip when setting the tip up they go to put the rubber gasket in They seem to zoom out. I know it’s simple once done, but the problem is I’ve never done it before.
Whats the sprayer tip you use on this video please?
Question: when I use wagner sprayer the paint peel when i use finger nail to scratch the wall does that mean I did not water down the paint properly I am using layland contract matt as my first mist coat on a newly plaster wall. Any suggestion would be welcome Note: I am just a DIY guy
It’s because your using contract Matt… I only use this on ceilings never walls… it’s not washable etc and will mark extremely easily… use the vinyl Matt instead which is more durable etc however I never spray walls in customers houses as a final finish. Might look nice but touch ups will cause you issues
so did you get it for note because your doing a blog
Can you show us how to use it for cutting in please?
Just use frog tape and sheet off the adjoining wall/ceiling and you will get the perfect straight line 👍
I sprayed our entire (4 bed) house before we moved in. A day to clean and mask it up. A day to spray all of it twice. I used a Graco handheld 110 Volt unit and 240/ 110 volt transformer. Both from American Amazon. Far cheaper than Graco’s European offerings. I _nearly_ got that Wagner unit but the clean up put me off.
Thanks for sharing 😊
just bought one of these. thought i would just try it out with water but i get a drip from the nozzle hoping it because its thin viscosity and it will be ok with paint. Any ideas?
You will get much better spray pattern when using actual paint (with higher viscosity, indeed). Watch some YT videos explaining different markings of the tips.
Preparation takes longer than the spraying 😂
But well worth the investment in time to mask up properly.
👌 your right
Looks awesome pal. It's a pity the machine is so bloody expensive 😮
Do you have any idea how I can get one for free 😂😂😂
Haha I’m afraid I dont
Yup, that filter in the handle is the one that clogs up the most
It's a great bit of kit though, but with only two rooms of the house left to decorate, it's going to be a bit overkill to get one
Absolutely! Haha we won’t!
I have a lot of painting to do (a house), but don't fancy having this pricey machine hanging around once I'm done. What's your view on cheaper machines, e.g. the Wagner 950, or Wagner W690? What would I be losing out on with one of those?
Totally understandable. I don’t have the experience with the cheaper machines but I think they may well have there place! I’d advise checking out some other videos to try and get a definitive answer to your question 👍
I think these can be rented, depending on where you live.
@@fiestygemini2379 I'm sure I could hire one (London-based). But the weekly prices of rental are comparable to the W950 purchase price, so it's necessary to understand the relative merits.
When are you going to do a video on making the work bench?, or have I missed it🤔
You haven’t missed it! I will be doing it once my new workshop is built 😊. Sorry for the delay on this one
How do you mask if you are painting the ceiling and walls different colors?
Mask along the wall/ceiling line with a lightweight plastic dust sheet
Hi, great video. I've been struggling to find what paint to use as well as finish. I've seen the Dulux you used in a local store....and at a very good price. I'm assuming you'd recommend it as the finish does look great or is the finish because of the spray?
Thanks. The dulux white emulsion is generally quite good but the finish is mainly down to the sprayer
@@TheDIYGuy1 cheers, I better stock up then,I've got a lot to do lol. Sorry if you've already said but can you say what settings, nozzle etc you used? I might not need the extension as I'm 6'4 🤣 local hiring is about £ 130 for the weekend or slightly more for the week... should I buy or rent 🤷
Anytime. The nozzles used was a 517 👍
Perfect timing of this video for me. I've managed to get hold of one of these sprayers to paint a full house. Did you water down the 2nd coat as muchh as the most coat?
Brilliant! Your paint need not be watered down however when mist coating I like to do two watered down coats before adding top coats.
@@TheDIYGuy1thanks Cameron!
Anytime 👍
These look great but £469? Ouch! As there are a few HVLP sprayers on Scamazon for under £50, I wonder what the difference in finish is like?
I just use one of those (£30) and results are great!
if you take the little pipe off and prime it with just water it will clean the machine part much quicker then all you gotta do is pull clean fresh water through the hose and gun its much quicker that way
it will suck the water up through the big tube then out through the little one so that part cleans quick
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How do u mask the ceiling off when doing different colour?
When spraying You usually do the ceiling last and mask the walls off using drop cloth
Do I need one? Currently, no.
Do I want one anyway? Abso-flippin-lutely 😂
😂😂 it’s a cool tool isn’t it
I noticed there's 2 hoses at the base of the machine, are they both priming hoses ?
One is the pick-up/supply. The other is the priming hose.
@@TheDIYGuy1Thanks good info in the video 👍👍
For the second cost did you use paint with no water in it?
Just to clarify. Your paint need not be watered down when using the sprayer for general use however when mist coating I like to do two watered down coats before adding top coats.
that green Nozzle costs around £50 to replace so best get than clean and look after it - not like I did!
Your right!
Will this work the same painting outside too?
Yes, absolutely
@@TheDIYGuy1 can you use any paints with this sprayer? Awesome video BTW. Love watching your stuff. 👍🏻
He talks about wearing ppe but when it comes to panting the walls he didn’t have his mask or goggles on 😂 love your content tho I’ll always watch you what ever you do 👌🤘
It’s pretty difficult to talk to camera and work so I always end up putting masks/glasses on and off and end up forgetting during filming.
@@TheDIYGuy1 only pulling your leg, we have all been there. I really enjoyed your video.
Thanks 👍
I like the idea of a sprayer, but it's the clean up that puts me off the most. The time saved over using a roller is lost in the laborious cleaning process
Very true. But it’s much more fun to use!
I still think rolling mist coat is better..
How long did it take to clean it?
It takes around 15 minutes to give it a proper clean out
Definitely need a better spray mask .
P3 filters .
Thanks.
Would you prefer to diy plaster yourself or get a professional and why?
If you can learn to do it yourself then yes I would say go for it. It takes time to get any good though so I have a builder friend do mine and do some work for him in return.
Don't you back roll the ceilings?
Why dont you use two buckets wven cleaning? One clear for inlet, and another for purge. Then you dont have to change the water many times. Good video otherwise 👍
Great point!
15:55 Tough one this, as you say. It's in the realms of being that bit more expensive than your average bear Booboo and even with a whole house to get at, then whatdyou do with it?
Quick check online; seems they're selling for about ⅔ of the brand new price. On that basis probably I'd get especially if I had a whole house ~ if they're up to snuff quality of finish ~ wise.
Have a hard time selling it if the kids have seen it. Power soaker anyone and that's just with water. Imagine how much vodka shots a teenager's birthday party could rack up with the aid of one of these!
😂 some good yet amusing points!
Get a new plasterer. Jeeeeez
Nice.. but you didnt show us the finished room all unmasked
Another advertorial!!
Nope, just me sharing my opinion. In fact, I even tell you that maybe you shouldn’t buy it if you don’t have big enough projects to do.
@@TheDIYGuy1 just going to email Wagner and see if they’ll send me one too 👍🏼
I bought it and after half of second job was broken
Really, That’s pretty bad. Maybe it was just a dodgy machine which can happen with any tool now and then.
@@TheDIYGuy1 true
Paint grenade?
👍😂
Save your money and buy a Graco
Not really practical for one or two rooms , unless we get them for nothing?
Let’s face it, this machine is only good for empty rooms with no flooring, else you will have to mask and cover even the floor! What a pain
God I could not be bothered with all that messing about, get out the Brush and roller everytime for me
Better than using a roller😂
I think so too!
Please just call the paint, not emulsion
Basically a sponsored vid then.
Nope just an honest review. I told you the bad parts as well as the good parts
First mistake is using a Wagner get a Graco or Titan
Wagner owns Titan
@@BGuitar415 Wagner’s aren’t very good Titan’s and Graco’s are built better. Wagner’s are normally for a homeowner that doesn’t care about what it looks like as long as it’s done
I always wonder why people think they should make instructional videos on things they know very little about...
First you spend hours on masking off and then you spend hours cleaning the machine the roller wins
Great point!