I bought a sprayer to paint a large trellis fence, which would've been a right royal pain with a brush. My wife followed along on the other side with a large cardboard sheet to catch the overspray. I had approximately a 3:1 ratio of paint on the fence to paint on the wife. Not recommended as a team-building exercise.
Just on filling up the gun, best tool I've found is get either a 2pt or 4pt plastic milk container, keep the lid on. Cut the bottom portion off, and clean out. Then you're left with a soft flexible scoop with a handle on that can be used for easy and quick filling. That's what I've used successfully many times.
I had several hundred metres to do with one of those sprayers once. To get around the refilling mess i went to a local home brewing shop, bought a high flow tap and fitted it to an empty 10 litre paint tub i had. I wasnt sure how it would turn out but it worked bloody brilliantly! Zero mess at all!
I dont know if its because i am becoming old or not but i genuinely love this chap. His videos are brilliant but not sure i will be able to tell any of my friends what i have been watching.
The reason the stain went on better was because it was thinner. It would have been easier to thin the paint in a separate container and thin pour the mix into the spray pot using a cheap plastic jug. These are great for fences, etc...but theres a trade off with walls and woodwork, having to thin the paint means more overspray and more coats in some cases, plus the chance of runs and breaking down the binder in the paint You also have to consider the time it takes to mask and protect other surfaces and the cost of the masking materials A lot of diyers buy cheap sprayers, mistakenly thinking they are just 'plug n play' they aint
Bought a 500W Guild sprayer with separate power unit from Argos £35 to paint approx 16m of 1.2m fence with trellis top. Did both sides in about 2 hours. Moved on to my 18M x 2 m feather edge fence this afternoon. Did one side in 3 hours. WHAT A BRILLIANT PEICE OF KIT! Best thing I've ever bought. Great finish and no diluting of paint. Used Ronseal Fencelife +.
I bought the smaller Wagner W100 last year to do fences and sheds. Although it's only got an 800ml capacity, I found that it was fine. I probably only use it once a year so spending a bit more time doesn't really bother me. I'm really messy when waiting with brushes and I found this to be much cleaner and easier.
I think the trouble at the beginning was the globs of paint you put in. I've never seen paint which globs like that ever on on properly with even a roller or brush. I've used airless sprayers many times and after gun set up, the most important thing is paint consistency. I would definitely recommend using a cordless drill with a mixing attachment, add perhaps thin the paint 5-10% and then strain it through a sieve before using. Also buy yourself 5-10L drum (the type used for water when you go camping and which has the little tap at the bottom) and put your paint into this and use it to top up. I prefer not to let the gun get less than about 1/3 full as I noticed the spray consistency changes beyond that point.
I bought a Black and Decker HVLP200 from B&M for £30 just before lockdown,it's electric and my garden fence is 2m high and my garden is 10m long and 6m wide,I used Ronseal red cedar fence paint without diluting it and covered my fence in one day,I also did my shed with a green latex paint the next day and only had to stop to fill the 1200ml reservoir a few times during the process,the finish was excellent considering what I paid for it,I have no plans to use it inside so the finish you get on garden furniture etc is good enough for me,love your videos by the way,keep them coming
I have the same machine, the impetus was that my new build house was sprayed and we wanted to retain the finish as we put colour on the walls. Two things I’ve found which might help. Use trade emulsions they need less thinning compared to diy versions. Most diy paint from manufacturers such as Dulux are designed to not even need stirring let alone thinning. The other thing is to filter the paint. I didn’t have many clogs but cleaning is a pain and since using a filter I’ve not had a single clog and enjoy spraying even more. Your comment on cleaning time/efforts meaning that you might only reserve the sprayer for larger jobs isn’t my experience. When compared to brushing and rollering where you’re cleaning rather than discarding the brush or roller, I find the sprayer doesn’t take much more time.
@@hufartd absolutely definitely. Spraying rough masonry, render or wood is so much easier with a sprayer. Clogs and cleaning are the main issues so mask and move everything out of the way before you start. That last thing you want is a thin layer of paint drying inside the sprayer whilst you move things out of the way and mask off a windows you forgot about. Speaking from experience :-).
@@DollarBillscotland Hey Bill - the filters I use look like little paper and mesh funnels that you put on top of the sprayer bottle when you pour the paint in from the can. The ones I get are from amazon. It adds a minute or so to refilling the sprayer, but I've never had a clog.
I bought a HVLP from Rutlands ... I also really enjoyed painting my very large fence. I thinned the fence paint in the tub and used a plastic jug to fill up the tank, and to clean the gun after, I put it into a bucket of clean water and ran it for a few minutes to clean its self out .... great video !
I bought the Wagner 690 quite awhile ago just to paint the render on my house, as this was one of the only sprayers that stated it can cope with smooth masonry paint. After setting the wall sprayer up and masking the windows and doors up I painted the whole of the house (Semi Detached) in 1 day. For the cost of the sprayer and abit of labour, beats paying for someone to do the job.
Hi mate how good was this model of spray gun at handling the smooth finish masonary paint a lot of folk have said there is uneven coverage , not a wide enough spray fan , nozzles blocking etc etc I,'ve got to paint the exterior walls on our house as soon as the weather permits and I'm not looking forward to using the ole brush and roller tbh 16:23 lol
Might have already been mentioned, but you can get replacement reservoirs that come with lids. This is helpful if you use the same primer for most projects and saves washing the reservoir. Looking forward to more of these outdoor projects.
I've got the Wagner Fence & Decking Sprayer which has a 1400ml reservoir so gives slightly longer spray time between trips to the "soup kitchen" Top Tip - I cut the top half from an old 3L Fabric Conditioner bottle and use it as a wide necked funnel to pour straight in to the spray container from the big fence paint bucket then dilute with water afterwards I now love painting my 20 fence panels with this as it is so quick and satisfying. I actually spend more time masking off my concrete posts and plinths than painting, but then I think "I may as well do 2 coats" seeing as I've gone to the trouble of doing the prep
I will definitely check for ine of these. My passion for DIY and painting has grown. And I really enjoy watching proper DIY. I have been learning more. I'm in process of painting my concrete walls in the garden. Just have to make sure cats don't get paint😅. Thank you for all your videos. Ypu speak very clearly To be honest I understand British accent better than American.
Thanks for the video. I'm wondering what's the difference in the end with buying a spray gun that works off a compressor. The compressor can be used for many other tools, here you basically have a single-purpose compressor.
I bought a cheap Terratek some years ago after seeing it on Peter's channel, which works very well for furniture panels and so on. Only £30. When I needed to do fences I got a Wagner airless 150M, no reservoir to carry around, 5.5 litre tank, 7.5m hose. I find it doesnt take that much longer to clean either of them than to properly clean brushes and roller, but the waste that coats the tank is a very valid point.
Good video I went for the W 950 I like the getting the paint directly from the can rather than filling the pot every 5 mins. Free next day delivery with Amazon UK.
Having purchased the exact same sprayer in the past & when painting rooms the hopper is far to small so refilling is very frequent which is very heavy on your arms leading to fatigue & the supplied hose a really short especially when spraying ceilings. Overspray is also a massive problem with an air sprayer, not only with clean up as even when all the masking & sheeting is in place it still causes a big mess when removing the masking wet to get a crisp line the sheets are wet through with paint or dry the paint flakes off creating a right mess. Airless sprayers are the way to go with minimal over spray, long hose, no heavy hopper to carry or endlessly refill. Wish I had purchase one in the first place.
For loading mine I use a plastic measuring jug, like the one you are using for clean up but a bit smaller, set of 3 costs a few quid. The handle means you can hook if over the side of the paint/stain vessel which keeps it relatively clean, and the drips then fall back into your paint pot.
A few years back I bought one of those hand-pump sprayers for treating the shed. I did it once! While the spraying was OK-ish, it wasn't easy to keep it at the right pressure and it was a total PITA to clean up the sprayer afterwards. Between the long plastic feed tube and the handle/nozzle which didn't really dismantle, it took me ages to get it even partly clean. I haven't used it since! We've just had a new paling fence & gate installed so I'm now at how to treat that, once it becomes necessary. Looking around, most of these electric sprayers seem to dismantle down enough to clean up properly and some even come with a brush for the job. Plus it has to be a whole lot easier doing the actual job! I may or may not end up with a Wagner but it's definitely on the short-list!
good video. I've owned and used this model for several years. The small gun is best for thinner paints while the big gun is best for less viscous paints such as latex/acrylic water based house and wall paint. Stains tend to be thin by comparison and the big gun really shines with those. I stained a stable with it and for the top of ladder work i strapped the turbine (pump) onto my back or onto the ladder and it worked fine. As for the small gun it works very well with oil based paints but these must be thinned. For example I make ornamental metal tables legs and use Tremclad enamel thinned with acetone to 25 seconds with a ford #4 cup. The issue with any paint that goes on with blobs or orange peel the solution is to thin it.
I think a collaboration with Craig Phillips would be good. I purchased the Wagner Airless Sprayer, you can put the pipe straight into the tub, no need to visit a soup kitchen ever again. Also you can get extra attachments such as tips for various viscosity and spray wand so no need of a ladder. The hose is 15metres long too. Beware of using Cuprinol and Ronseal in your sprayer, there have been complaints of build of wax blocking the sprayer.
Hey dude, just watched as a random video. Just wantede to give a tip, mkst pros use a liner in the cartridge like a nappy bag or similar, to save leaving a residue inside from different paints. Cheers dude
The battery sprayer from Aldi is very powerful. I don't see how this is faster. The only benefit I see is that there is no pump to wear so you can use your model for big jobs. For the odd fence oiling or room painting, the small sprayer is more than ok.
When I saw the huge difference in coverage, without changing your technique at all. I knew which one I would go with. Glad to see you went the same way. I'm what's referred to as a "wet-painter" in my 'neck-of-woods'. By the way, I use a funnel to catch the paint/stain that's loaded with a strainer. Hope everything went well when the wife got home.
i have an earlex, compressor /hose/gun. comes with three paint containers. plus a 10 ltr back pack, no stopping for refills after every ltr. plastic jug to fill ltr pots/paint brush to take off excess, back into paint or fence containers.
I have used the earlex sprayer for over 10 hrs and it's still going strong. It comes with a backpack container which saves on refills although pressure is great so usually use the small container. I wouldn't use a soup ladle as it takes too long. Just pour carefully direct from container having first bent top to give a spout shape. Ground cover needed!! When doing tops of fences use an old cover or in my case a curtain to stop over spray and really annoy the neighbours, esp if they have washing out!! Earlex is so easy to clean, just spray water through it then dismantle and clean. Forgot to mention, keep paint at room temp 24hrs before using as it usually then doesn't need watered down.
I’ve used an Earle’s to spray a car with great results after a cut and polish. I have professional spray guns that work of my compressor so this was a bit of fun.
It might be the wall head but just a couple of observations. 1. Leyland contract matt is an odd paint to spray, it doesn’t like too much thinning prior to atomisation so as a result it is best suited to airless rather than HVLP. Simply, it is a bit weak. 2. If you put up the fluid and the air flow you might eliminate some issues but it amplifies what you already had too - if you increase the fluid first it gives you better feedback as to whether the air needs to go up or not. If it doesn’t then you end up with less overspray. 3. A used bottle of mineral water or something else washed out is a great option for filling. You can mix up the paint to consistency in the bottle and pour it straight into the pot. No mess. 👍
Yes the advantage of a very thin spray coat is it’s virtually instantaneous drying time thus allowing multiple applications in a short time period. For a newbie your gun technique is very good!
I bought this during lockdown. I have done my fencing and internal walls. The adage that it takes longer to mask up and clean up than it does to paint, is true. But well worth it though the finish is great. Also put 3 coats on my fence in an afternoon. I also bought 3 extra containers with lids so I could spray a large area.
Just a tip I saw elsewhere on youtube, you can place two strips of gaffer tap in a V on the opening of paint/stain tin and then it will pour out like a spout. It also keeps the edges of the tin free of paint! Might save you an ear bashing from the Wife :) I've been an avid watcher of your channel since i found a video on adding an electric socket. Love your presenting style and step by step guides. Your sense of humour add to a sometime dry subject. Well done!
My brother lent me his Bosch HVLP sprayer to do my fences, nothing fancy, just a mains-powered little thing that cost about 20 quid, it was bloody brilliant! I don't know about interior decorating, but you don't need anything expensive for fences and gates.
My idea about this sprayer for renovation and DIY is to use interchangeable combination of cheap standard sprayer head with standard compressed air hose and connect it with a mobile battery powered compressor. So I'm free to change if I really need more: different sprayer head or bigger compressor.
I would recommend: * using a stirrer on your paint - a metal plastering type. * filtering the paint, even on a new unopened Leyland contract paint. I learnt from bitter experience after ending up with 'flakes' on the wall - resulting in having to let it dry and sand down and redo the whole wall. Picking off flakes is not recommended !!. Pay a bit extra and get a funnel type filter that will sit 'on' the reservoir - the plastic one - and save not needing to have to wash the ladle so you can have the custard over your pudding !!
You can get larger containers for the Wagner hoses Stu. If you buy an extra one as well and maybe get someone else to refill it whilst you’re spraying the job can be done in minutes 😀👍
It is good to see that another person had the same problem about paint spraying as I did. The main problem I found was that using non water based products cleaning the sprayer was indeed cheap because it was water. But using solvent based paints the cost for cleaning rocketed to the point that larger paint containers made it un viable. Though I did cut down on cleaning the equipment by putting a polyethene bag in the paint reservoir. I did find the gun and a separate small compressor worked best though I did in the end go for a small metal spray gun for paint needing a cleaning solvent with a larger capacity spray gun for sheds and fences. You are very right using a brush to do large items like sheds fences and gates is just tedious.
I've got the kit with the motor built into the handset. On a fence where there is nothing around and no paving, I suppose it could work well. But I first used it in a room. Crap finish and spray absolutely everywhere. Packed it up for 3 years and recently decided to use some water based primer on a wood shelving unit in the garden. Thought, give it another go and got loads of space, what could go wrong? Fine spray flew around over 3m onto back windows. Had to quickly start washing them before it solidified. Remembered why I didn't bother with it the first time. Maybe you can do adjustments and get viscosity right. But that trial and error takes time. Masking up takes time. Lots of paint gets wasted, if not just from the spraying but when diluting it and getting it wrong. Constant refilling of the caddy. If you take too long a break then nozzle can bung up. Then clean up afterwards. Once you measure all that I much prefer the brush and roller!
Stuart, had the same problem with my one as you did with yours, coincidentally with exactly the same Leyland paint, tried it with another paint, worked really well, I think its the opacity of the paint. Even diluted down could not get it to work. Good luck with your one.
I have the same set up. So, another little tip, when cleaning, is to make sure you remove from under the sprayer lid, the white disk that has the tube sticking down into the paint! It will enable you to give it a proper clean but also paint can get trapped between the disk and the lid which, if not cleaned off, will eventually dry, and reduce performance! I have to say, I find the cleanup to be fairly quick. I use an old car sponge and a bucket of water, a hose and also an old kitchen sponge that has a scotchbrite pad to clean off the awkward bits of paint. But otherwise, very nice video!
Another excellent video. I had a Wagner (not your model) but lost it to one of our sons; that’s the price of a family. I think the real quandary for many people is that balance between brands. By which I mean does spending a lot on a known brand (say De Walt) get a better tool than, say, a tool from Aldi or Lidl. Much may depend upon the amount of usage but would I be better off buying 3 x Aldi during the lifespan of a De Walt? My upbringing was always “ buy cheap; buy twice” and so I have always bought the best (usually the most expensive) tool that I could afford. As a result, my workshop is full of DeWalt, Bosch, Marita, Festool with Axminster Trade heavier machinery plus very good quality hand tools (eg Veritas planes and Iles chisels). It’s all very good, gives me pleasure to use a quality piece and nothing has failed without reaching old age. But, I did buy a Katsu battery router as I wanted a battery machine for a particular job. It’s half (?) the price of a big brand and…..it’s superb. Whether it will last 20 years, I don’t know but I doubt that I will be doing those jobs then. I’ve got many internal walls to paint with emulsion plus a lot of tall wooden fence panels and, like you it seems, I buy tools as an investment (although at 68, my pay back period gets shorter each year). I was persuaded away from another Wagner really because of mediocre views of it for internal walls. So, I bought a Grace Ultra battery model -strictly for me I hope. It does get very good reviews although there is an acceptance that it wouldn’t be suitable for all day painting. Well, my body won’t let me do anything for more than a couple of hours and so, I hope the model and my body are suited to each other. My model was £500 - so a lot more than yours. I hope that the extra cost does bring me a a really high class finish on internal walls. It’s first job will be to do a 9.6m wall where I have made and fitted wall panelling together with linen fold panels. So, a real nightmare for brush or roller but it shouldn’t matter for a sprayer. So, where is the tipping point for people to invest rather than dispose? Too late for me but it seems to be the question that younger people have to work out.
I needed a battery operated paint sprayer, so as I live in OZ I bought an Ozito from Bunnings and I have to say for a cheapie it's brilliant, I only use it for decking, kids treehouse and the wife's garden studio. Cleans up easily with mineral turps and no long leads. We do have Wagner here but way too dear for their 18v system. Thanks for your great video. Cheers
My better half bought a Tilswall 550W all-in-hand electric sprayer, I used it for our close board fencing, it worked but it was heavy to handle and getting the Ronseal OneCoat (same as your stain, undiluted) to flow meant I ended up pretty much shaking the sprayer to keep the flow going. My application was much heavier, then resulted in an uneven and patchy mess when I tried to get a similar amount of material applied to brush+roller, I assume this is mostly because it was my first attempt spraying anything. I used a plastic drinking cup to transfer the material, I was a bit worried about getting kitchen equipment clean enough again! Going for the larger unit was 100% the right way to go and this one is probably going to frustrate me whenever I need to get it out again.
Many electric sprayers allow a tube feed directvto sprayer. My wagner does and its a simple cheap add on kit. Buy a 15l pail and dilute the 10l paint into that ensuring its well mixed. Then move it along. A 3-4 metre tube is best cable tied to pail. I painted a 20m x 3m wall and it took 20 minutes. Then a second coat 30mins later.
Our neighbour did a lovely job of his fence with one of these. Trouble was, one side of my shed had a curious speckled finish after he finished! Not to be used on windy days!
I always decant my fence stuff into a large bleach container and predilute it, then it's easy to tip into the sprayer with no drips. I've had many messy days of ladels and cups before this!
At first I thought that an electric spray gun would be great, but once you've settled for a brand, you are locked in. Was it so hard for Wagner to give all containers the same diameter, so containers can be swapped out? Also, you can only paint with this set. With a more classic compressor based setup, you can also attach other tools like sanders, grinders, screw/bold drivers, tackers, but also smaller air brush heads for finer work. Plus you can match and mix components of different brands making it much more likely the cheaper solution in the long run. The compressor with a air nozzle can also be used to clean up your work shop. At a price of roughly $180, you can get also a very decent compressor based air spray setup with a long hose.... As I'm going to renovate an complete RV, I went for the compressor set because at least for the coming 2 to 3 years that would serve my needs a little bit more. Thanks for your video and honest remarks in the video!
One of the first jobs I've done in my last two homes is to paint the internal walls of my garage/workshop white. It makes for a much brighter and more "comfortable" workplace. It would be an ideal opportunity for you to experiment with the settings of the other spray gun.
From bitter experience, when spraying a fence the over spray is a big problem when you have neighbours. The paint goes through the tiniest of gaps. You need to put some sort of protective shield behind the fence.
This will be fine for fences and plastered walls. I’m not convinced on its suitability for mdf furniture. Be interesting to see if you try that and if I’m wrong. I use a compressor and a midi spray gun for water based furniture finishes. Found I needed some ooomph to properly atomise the paint and lay it down with some force in order to get the factory-quality sprayed finish I was looking for.
Bought the 4000 unit yesterday. Painted 300 ft of cedar fence( inside and out). I read the directions to my son while he set it up. We found a seal/washer, inside the nozzle section had been placed incorrectly at the factory. Hence a grove in it was facing the wrong way. The unit has all the adjustability of a production automotive paint gun. Not a simple one gun setting fits all. We got close prior to our test panel, and it was an easy adjust or two, to get what was deemed a fair final setting. Made amazingly fast work of the 8ft tall fence. Clean up, while a bit entailed is easy. Using an expendable toothbrush and thinner( oil based stain ) we had it as new in 25 min. Use a stepped process with increasingly cleaner results. Last thing we did was use absolutely clean material ( 2 table spoons of thinner in our case ) sprayed shaking the gun. Never use the cup liners though.
I had the hand held version.....hard on the wrist though ! but it easily coped with three large bedrooms a large living room and two storey staircase, above my shop, but we left the old carpets down and masked all the windows with newspaper....a good investment !
I use same sprayer there is 2 easy ways to fill pot, either use tape to make a "V" pattern on paint tub which allows it to flow in thin flow or cut a 2 litre pop bottle in half and put in top of receptacle upside down.
When I first began looking for an inexpensive but great working paint sprayer, Wagner was at the top of my list. I want to spray paint my house shop and shed and also be able to do smaller jobs. That Wagner you used would likely do the trick except for holding too small amount of paint/stain. I have a compressor so am also looking into the pressure pot sprayers. More paint.
@@Ukmongoose3 It looks like using a high volume low pressure sprayer may be a cheaper way to go, though the sprayers that have a pump may be better for thicker stuff. I have a pump up sprayer that I can use for thin stuff. I am not going to get this done this year :-(
Trips to the soup kitchen.. very funny. I find a cheap plastic 2 pint kitchen jug from a pound shop cuts down trips to the SK. Another well made, funny and informative video Stuart.
Thank you, Stuart, I'm in the market for a decent sprayer unit. One thing about filling the unit with paint/stain, I'm thinking you could you use something like a plastic spout/fluming made up to fit a 10 litre bucket that fits around the rim of the bucket and is removable after use.
I bought one during lockdown and covered 15 fence panels in no time at all, filling the reservoir was a pain but the job was done in less than half a day!
I've used this exact Wagner model to paint cars, with reasonably good results. When everything's just right, it works beautifully (as my li'l metallic burgundy 1957 Thunderbird would attest). But I'm in a warm part of the world and all my jobs are outside, so temperature seems to play a big role. I'm still trying to suss out whether the gun itself affects that equation, because the turbine motor definitely heats up the air if you're spraying more than just a minute or two. I only use the smaller gun, which Wagner calls a "detail nozzle". Thinning/reducing to the proper consistency is important since you can't change nozzle sizes, and I feel Wagner's documentation in that area is a little lacking in detail. After much toying with the fan speed and volume knob on the gun itself, I'm still not getting consistent results, although with my current 1959 Galaxie project, I'm starting now to suspect I'm having issues with the paint itself. Wagner makes a model called a Moto-Coat, which I believe is this identical machine but with an even longer hose. All in all, depending on your needs, I think this is a great little setup. Thanks for the video!
I went for an airless sprayer, EAPS600, which pumps directly out of the container and can shift a lot of product. For 160gbp you're entering semiprofessiomal space as it supports different tips from big brands like Graco etc
I'm using Ingco company small one , it's really great I used wood , metal and walls too but outside so many things matters specially thickness of paint also when u doing outside air also matter it flew few color , so far it's good technology and easy for home users and save money all companies are different qualities
Your wife may ask have you seen the ladel. Came across your channel a few days ago and have been watching a lot of your content. Love the information provided, comparisons, do's and don'ts tips and tricks keep at it. I get its doubling all jobs showing how its done but appreciate all the extra effort to help everyone else out.
Use a lid edge to pour paint from the container to the pot. if it is thick paint dilute 15% with demineralized. Clean the ti p and nozzle regularly. Like every few mins if you are doing an important job. Use a pipe cleaner to keep it paint free. You also need to clean the valve which sits under the clear plastic tube. Invert the gun first or you'll lose the tiny valve. They are noisy. Also paint mist goes everywhere. Drop sheets everywhere inside!. Lastly Taubman's Hybrid Enamel is amazing. It sticks like glue, is not smelly and dries fast. Once Dry it sticks like glue.
Once again I am full of awe with your advice, I too bought a sprayer some 8 months ago but didn't really go through the break down process that you did that brought you to your final decision. Needless to say I absolutely wasted my £74 and whenever I need another tool I will be doing the due diligence to make sure I don't make the same mistake again. I believe I am becoming a better DIYer having had the opportunity to see how you tackle problems and then to follow your advice. Keep up the great work and I always look forward to your next video.
Well presented video. Looks a fine piece of kit like the idea of not carrying the compressor unit. Might be an idea to use a viscosity cup for quality finish projects. Thanks for sharing
Get yourself a Cyclone paint mixer attachment for your drill, they are cheap and fantastic. Can also be used for small quantities of plaster. Ultimate Handyman has a video on RUclips showing them. I got one after seeing his video and have had mine for years now and it is still like new as it is well made and stainless steel. Well worth the few quid. Best of all it mixes your paint brilliantly in no time at all. Just remember to stop spinning it before lifting it out the paint!
Thanks Stuart. Your thought process was interesting and makes sense, but that's exactly how the manufacturers get us to upgrade to a machine we didn't really want to buy! I'd like to see the results with the cheaper sprayer and whether the marketing material actually does hold true. In 2020 I painted our fence, starting with a 4" brush and then realising how long the full sized panels actually took. So I got my Lidl Parkside £25? sprayer out and did the rest with the sprayer. My paint container looked similar size to yours so yes it needed filling for every panel side. Yours did look to eject the paint faster, but worth the extra? I found that a lot of the fence paints were either only guaranteed for 1 or 2 years or not stated as compatible with a sprayer. Fence life plus was the only one I found that was 5 year coverage, but so far it's not living up to the marketing, had to be touched up last year and again will need it this year. There must be more to life than painting the fence every year!
Glad to see you used the kitchen ladle to load up the paint container. I do the same to avoid the mess you get when pouring paint from cans into trays or the spray canister. However, it did get me into trouble with SWIMBO who insisted that even after washing off the emulsion paint the ladle was now not fit for use in the kitchen again. A new ladle for the kitchen was needed & the original is now relegated to the garage for decorating use only. I've only ever used my cheap electric Ferm spray gun for doing fence panels. TBH the finish is OK for fences but not good enough for internal walls & ceilings. It also drips quite a bit from the overspray guard so it would a nightmare to use indoors. Your gun looks a lot better.
Same here, made me laugh when I saw it. I just soaked the emulsion off and stuck it in the dishwasher overnight, and let her re-introduce it to the tools drawer. I have one of the pin type fence sprayers, seems to be o.k. with fencelife etc. but it must be a calm day or you'll get loads on you and the concrete posts.
Very similar to my wife's spray tan machine, although i don't think she'd be too happy me using it to spray the fences. Definitely looking into one of these units tho.
I had a smaller Wagner version which did well the first time but despite what I thought was meticulous washing failed the second time. I think it was the paint change and realised I had to thin the it to such an extent it was coloured water. Maybe I should have gone with the bigger one. I reverted to rollers and brushes after.
Tried a few over the years but usually the £50-70 level. OK results but the 690 looks the proper tool. I would not use one inside the house as furniture etc make it too fussy and risky. Yes you can lay dust sheets, remove the TV etc but its more than the usual protection and overspray and paint particles in the air...not for me. But for fences that looks fantastic
I bought a sprayer to paint a large trellis fence, which would've been a right royal pain with a brush. My wife followed along on the other side with a large cardboard sheet to catch the overspray. I had approximately a 3:1 ratio of paint on the fence to paint on the wife. Not recommended as a team-building exercise.
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Saves on the sun tan oil
You should set up a side business spray tanning the local ladies, line em up in the garden and let rip.
Make sure to charge by the square metre.😏
was you going for a 1:1 ration fence/wife ?
@@lazycarper7925 I discovered 6 :9 gives the best overall experience
Just on filling up the gun, best tool I've found is get either a 2pt or 4pt plastic milk container, keep the lid on. Cut the bottom portion off, and clean out. Then you're left with a soft flexible scoop with a handle on that can be used for easy and quick filling. That's what I've used successfully many times.
Cheers dave, you've just clued me up on a method I've been trying to think of for the last hour on and off.
i'm using one of those small plastic jugs to fill the reservoir. easier and less messy than a ladle
I bought the same sprayer on this review. Thank you. I painted a bedroom in about 35 mins with the wall and ceiling sprayer.
I had several hundred metres to do with one of those sprayers once.
To get around the refilling mess i went to a local home brewing shop, bought a high flow tap and fitted it to an empty 10 litre paint tub i had.
I wasnt sure how it would turn out but it worked bloody brilliantly! Zero mess at all!
Did the tap go in the bottom of the side or the very bottom of the tub? Thank you!
funnels are useful inventions for paint pouring
My wife and I love putting your videos on whilst we get frisky in the bedroom. This one was a winner, especially!
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Leave woman aside eish
I dont know if its because i am becoming old or not but i genuinely love this chap. His videos are brilliant but not sure i will be able to tell any of my friends what i have been watching.
Just tell 'em you're watching that muscular throbbing vascular milwaukee guy who keeps yells about everything he talks about
I also find pouring water into the container and spraying that through to clean it much faster and easier
Yeah if the paint is water based this will work, will not work for solvent paint thinners is needed
The reason the stain went on better was because it was thinner. It would have been easier to thin the paint in a separate container and thin pour the mix into the spray pot using a cheap plastic jug.
These are great for fences, etc...but theres a trade off with walls and woodwork, having to thin the paint means more overspray and more coats in some cases, plus the chance of runs and breaking down the binder in the paint
You also have to consider the time it takes to mask and protect other surfaces and the cost of the masking materials
A lot of diyers buy cheap sprayers, mistakenly thinking they are just 'plug n play' they aint
With latex you have to thin down with 10% warm water in this sprayer. Then the result is fantastic.
Bought a 500W Guild sprayer with separate power unit from Argos £35 to paint approx 16m of 1.2m fence with trellis top. Did both sides in about 2 hours. Moved on to my 18M x 2 m feather edge fence this afternoon. Did one side in 3 hours. WHAT A BRILLIANT PEICE OF KIT! Best thing I've ever bought. Great finish and no diluting of paint. Used Ronseal Fencelife +.
I bought the smaller Wagner W100 last year to do fences and sheds. Although it's only got an 800ml capacity, I found that it was fine. I probably only use it once a year so spending a bit more time doesn't really bother me. I'm really messy when waiting with brushes and I found this to be much cleaner and easier.
Great video. For filling the reservoir, I used a funnel that comes with a dishwasher to pour in the salt as it has a wide tip
I think the trouble at the beginning was the globs of paint you put in. I've never seen paint which globs like that ever on on properly with even a roller or brush. I've used airless sprayers many times and after gun set up, the most important thing is paint consistency. I would definitely recommend using a cordless drill with a mixing attachment, add perhaps thin the paint 5-10% and then strain it through a sieve before using. Also buy yourself 5-10L drum (the type used for water when you go camping and which has the little tap at the bottom) and put your paint into this and use it to top up. I prefer not to let the gun get less than about 1/3 full as I noticed the spray consistency changes beyond that point.
That white paint was like tooo thick
How did you manage the overstay from the gun, atomised paint travels a long way, and settles on most items - especially window frames, doors etc.
@@davidgrinter5938cover up with tape and light plastic. You can buy it in most builder merchants
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I bought a Black and Decker HVLP200 from B&M for £30 just before lockdown,it's electric and my garden fence is 2m high and my garden is 10m long and 6m wide,I used Ronseal red cedar fence paint without diluting it and covered my fence in one day,I also did my shed with a green latex paint the next day and only had to stop to fill the 1200ml reservoir a few times during the process,the finish was excellent considering what I paid for it,I have no plans to use it inside so the finish you get on garden furniture etc is good enough for me,love your videos by the way,keep them coming
I have the same machine, the impetus was that my new build house was sprayed and we wanted to retain the finish as we put colour on the walls. Two things I’ve found which might help. Use trade emulsions they need less thinning compared to diy versions. Most diy paint from manufacturers such as Dulux are designed to not even need stirring let alone thinning. The other thing is to filter the paint. I didn’t have many clogs but cleaning is a pain and since using a filter I’ve not had a single clog and enjoy spraying even more.
Your comment on cleaning time/efforts meaning that you might only reserve the sprayer for larger jobs isn’t my experience. When compared to brushing and rollering where you’re cleaning rather than discarding the brush or roller, I find the sprayer doesn’t take much more time.
Im looking to spray my internal double garage walls (concrete block and roughcast do you think the machine is up to that?
@@hufartd absolutely definitely. Spraying rough masonry, render or wood is so much easier with a sprayer. Clogs and cleaning are the main issues so mask and move everything out of the way before you start. That last thing you want is a thin layer of paint drying inside the sprayer whilst you move things out of the way and mask off a windows you forgot about. Speaking from experience :-).
Re filtering the paint. How did you actually achieve this? Straight from the tin or is there an inline filter?
@@DollarBillscotland Hey Bill - the filters I use look like little paper and mesh funnels that you put on top of the sprayer bottle when you pour the paint in from the can. The ones I get are from amazon. It adds a minute or so to refilling the sprayer, but I've never had a clog.
I bought a HVLP from Rutlands ... I also really enjoyed painting my very large fence. I thinned the fence paint in the tub and used a plastic jug to fill up the tank, and to clean the gun after, I put it into a bucket of clean water and ran it for a few minutes to clean its self out .... great video !
I bought the Wagner 690 quite awhile ago just to paint the render on my house, as this was one of the only sprayers that stated it can cope with smooth masonry paint. After setting the wall sprayer up and masking the windows and doors up I painted the whole of the house (Semi Detached) in 1 day. For the cost of the sprayer and abit of labour, beats paying for someone to do the job.
Looking to get a sprayer to do my outside walls, gladyou have had a positive experience with this model.
Good to hear that's the sprayer I've been looking at, I have a three floor Georgian house so need something more professional
Hi mate
how good was this model of spray gun at handling the smooth finish masonary paint
a lot of folk have said there is uneven coverage , not a wide enough spray fan , nozzles blocking etc etc
I,'ve got to paint the exterior walls on our house as soon as the weather permits and I'm not looking forward to using the ole brush and roller tbh 16:23 lol
I use a silicon kitchen spatula to scrape unused paint from pots and trays back into the tin. It's quick and effective and cuts down on waste.
Might have already been mentioned, but you can get replacement reservoirs that come with lids. This is helpful if you use the same primer for most projects and saves washing the reservoir. Looking forward to more of these outdoor projects.
Yes they do sell them
They do sell them but they are ridiculously pricey for what they are. Not found a compatible aftermarket cheap version.
I've got the Wagner Fence & Decking Sprayer which has a 1400ml reservoir so gives slightly longer spray time between trips to the "soup kitchen"
Top Tip - I cut the top half from an old 3L Fabric Conditioner bottle and use it as a wide necked funnel to pour straight in to the spray container from the big fence paint bucket then dilute with water afterwards
I now love painting my 20 fence panels with this as it is so quick and satisfying.
I actually spend more time masking off my concrete posts and plinths than painting, but then I think "I may as well do 2 coats" seeing as I've gone to the trouble of doing the prep
Good tip. Exactly - so easy you end up wanting to do more!
@@ProperDIY The sign of success. Behind every successful engineer is a right lazy sod...
I will definitely check for ine of these. My passion for DIY and painting has grown. And I really enjoy watching proper DIY. I have been learning more.
I'm in process of painting my concrete walls in the garden. Just have to make sure cats don't get paint😅. Thank you for all your videos. Ypu speak very clearly
To be honest I understand British accent better than American.
Thanks for the video. I'm wondering what's the difference in the end with buying a spray gun that works off a compressor. The compressor can be used for many other tools, here you basically have a single-purpose compressor.
@@Schollii68 Stuart mentioned compressor noise was problematic.
I bought a cheap Terratek some years ago after seeing it on Peter's channel, which works very well for furniture panels and so on. Only £30.
When I needed to do fences I got a Wagner airless 150M, no reservoir to carry around, 5.5 litre tank, 7.5m hose.
I find it doesnt take that much longer to clean either of them than to properly clean brushes and roller, but the waste that coats the tank is a very valid point.
150 is good but there is no pressure control
Good video I went for the W 950 I like the getting the paint directly from the can rather than filling the pot every 5 mins. Free next day delivery with Amazon UK.
Having purchased the exact same sprayer in the past & when painting rooms the hopper is far to small so refilling is very frequent which is very heavy on your arms leading to fatigue & the supplied hose a really short especially when spraying ceilings.
Overspray is also a massive problem with an air sprayer, not only with clean up as even when all the masking & sheeting is in place it still causes a big mess when removing the masking wet to get a crisp line the sheets are wet through with paint or dry the paint flakes off creating a right mess.
Airless sprayers are the way to go with minimal over spray, long hose, no heavy hopper to carry or endlessly refill. Wish I had purchase one in the first place.
Exactly this!
so true. similar experience and i have actually decided to replace mine with an airless one
Thank you!!! Great compact video with honest opinion! I'll pick up one right now, knowing i make the right choice.
For loading mine I use a plastic measuring jug, like the one you are using for clean up but a bit smaller, set of 3 costs a few quid.
The handle means you can hook if over the side of the paint/stain vessel which keeps it relatively clean, and the drips then fall back into your paint pot.
A few years back I bought one of those hand-pump sprayers for treating the shed. I did it once! While the spraying was OK-ish, it wasn't easy to keep it at the right pressure and it was a total PITA to clean up the sprayer afterwards. Between the long plastic feed tube and the handle/nozzle which didn't really dismantle, it took me ages to get it even partly clean. I haven't used it since!
We've just had a new paling fence & gate installed so I'm now at how to treat that, once it becomes necessary. Looking around, most of these electric sprayers seem to dismantle down enough to clean up properly and some even come with a brush for the job. Plus it has to be a whole lot easier doing the actual job! I may or may not end up with a Wagner but it's definitely on the short-list!
Thanks for the no frills info and demo. I feel confident the equipment is as per your demonstration.
good video. I've owned and used this model for several years. The small gun is best for thinner paints while the big gun is best for less viscous paints such as latex/acrylic water based house and wall paint. Stains tend to be thin by comparison and the big gun really shines with those. I stained a stable with it and for the top of ladder work i strapped the turbine (pump) onto my back or onto the ladder and it worked fine. As for the small gun it works very well with oil based paints but these must be thinned. For example I make ornamental metal tables legs and use Tremclad enamel thinned with acetone to 25 seconds with a ford #4 cup. The issue with any paint that goes on with blobs or orange peel the solution is to thin it.
I think a collaboration with Craig Phillips would be good.
I purchased the Wagner Airless Sprayer, you can put the pipe straight into the tub, no need to visit a soup kitchen ever again. Also you can get extra attachments such as tips for various viscosity and spray wand so no need of a ladder. The hose is 15metres long too.
Beware of using Cuprinol and Ronseal in your sprayer, there have been complaints of build of wax blocking the sprayer.
You cant imagine, how you on time with this video! Thank You
Hey dude, just watched as a random video. Just wantede to give a tip, mkst pros use a liner in the cartridge like a nappy bag or similar, to save leaving a residue inside from different paints. Cheers dude
The battery sprayer from Aldi is very powerful. I don't see how this is faster. The only benefit I see is that there is no pump to wear so you can use your model for big jobs. For the odd fence oiling or room painting, the small sprayer is more than ok.
This would be perfect for painting my flowers in my garden I am sick and tired of them being green now it's time to paint them blue!
When I saw the huge difference in coverage, without changing your technique at all. I knew which one I would go with. Glad to see you went the same way. I'm what's referred to as a "wet-painter" in my 'neck-of-woods'.
By the way, I use a funnel to catch the paint/stain that's loaded with a strainer.
Hope everything went well when the wife got home.
i have an earlex, compressor /hose/gun. comes with three paint containers. plus a 10 ltr back pack, no stopping for refills after every ltr. plastic jug to fill ltr pots/paint brush to take off excess, back into paint or fence containers.
What a great DIY video. Well edited, spoken and explained. Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
I have used the earlex sprayer for over 10 hrs and it's still going strong. It comes with a backpack container which saves on refills although pressure is great so usually use the small container. I wouldn't use a soup ladle as it takes too long. Just pour carefully direct from container having first bent top to give a spout shape. Ground cover needed!! When doing tops of fences use an old cover or in my case a curtain to stop over spray and really annoy the neighbours, esp if they have washing out!! Earlex is so easy to clean, just spray water through it then dismantle and clean. Forgot to mention, keep paint at room temp 24hrs before using as it usually then doesn't need watered down.
I’ve used an Earle’s to spray a car with great results after a cut and polish. I have professional spray guns that work of my compressor so this was a bit of fun.
It might be the wall head but just a couple of observations.
1. Leyland contract matt is an odd paint to spray, it doesn’t like too much thinning prior to atomisation so as a result it is best suited to airless rather than HVLP. Simply, it is a bit weak.
2. If you put up the fluid and the air flow you might eliminate some issues but it amplifies what you already had too - if you increase the fluid first it gives you better feedback as to whether the air needs to go up or not. If it doesn’t then you end up with less overspray.
3. A used bottle of mineral water or something else washed out is a great option for filling. You can mix up the paint to consistency in the bottle and pour it straight into the pot. No mess. 👍
Yes the advantage of a very thin spray coat is it’s virtually instantaneous drying time thus allowing multiple applications in a short time period. For a newbie your gun technique is very good!
Great informative video , just bought one and now love painting my 62 panel 5x6ft I can all in 1 day , used to dread it.
I bought this during lockdown. I have done my fencing and internal walls. The adage that it takes longer to mask up and clean up than it does to paint, is true. But well worth it
though the finish is great. Also put 3 coats on my fence in an afternoon. I also bought 3 extra containers with lids so I could spray a large area.
Nice one Clive
Just a tip I saw elsewhere on youtube, you can place two strips of gaffer tap in a V on the opening of paint/stain tin and then it will pour out like a spout. It also keeps the edges of the tin free of paint! Might save you an ear bashing from the Wife :) I've been an avid watcher of your channel since i found a video on adding an electric socket. Love your presenting style and step by step guides. Your sense of humour add to a sometime dry subject. Well done!
My brother lent me his Bosch HVLP sprayer to do my fences, nothing fancy, just a mains-powered little thing that cost about 20 quid, it was bloody brilliant! I don't know about interior decorating, but you don't need anything expensive for fences and gates.
I have used my soup laddle for scooping out the Saniflo, it's now in a bucket in my shead with other Saniflo tools.
My idea about this sprayer for renovation and DIY is to use interchangeable combination of cheap standard sprayer head with standard compressed air hose and connect it with a mobile battery powered compressor. So I'm free to change if I really need more: different sprayer head or bigger compressor.
I would recommend:
* using a stirrer on your paint - a metal plastering type.
* filtering the paint, even on a new unopened Leyland contract paint.
I learnt from bitter experience after ending up with 'flakes' on the wall - resulting in having to let it dry and sand down and redo the whole wall. Picking off flakes is not recommended !!.
Pay a bit extra and get a funnel type filter that will sit 'on' the reservoir - the plastic one - and save not needing to have to wash the ladle so you can have the custard over your pudding !!
You can get larger containers for the Wagner hoses Stu. If you buy an extra one as well and maybe get someone else to refill it whilst you’re spraying the job can be done in minutes 😀👍
That's interesting to know thanks - good tip
It is good to see that another person had the same problem about paint spraying as I did. The main problem I found was that using non water based products cleaning the sprayer was indeed cheap because it was water. But using solvent based paints the cost for cleaning rocketed to the point that larger paint containers made it un viable. Though I did cut down on cleaning the equipment by putting a polyethene bag in the paint reservoir. I did find the gun and a separate small compressor worked best though I did in the end go for a small metal spray gun for paint needing a cleaning solvent with a larger capacity spray gun for sheds and fences. You are very right using a brush to do large items like sheds fences and gates is just tedious.
I've got the kit with the motor built into the handset. On a fence where there is nothing around and no paving, I suppose it could work well. But I first used it in a room. Crap finish and spray absolutely everywhere.
Packed it up for 3 years and recently decided to use some water based primer on a wood shelving unit in the garden. Thought, give it another go and got loads of space, what could go wrong? Fine spray flew around over 3m onto back windows. Had to quickly start washing them before it solidified.
Remembered why I didn't bother with it the first time. Maybe you can do adjustments and get viscosity right. But that trial and error takes time. Masking up takes time. Lots of paint gets wasted, if not just from the spraying but when diluting it and getting it wrong. Constant refilling of the caddy. If you take too long a break then nozzle can bung up. Then clean up afterwards.
Once you measure all that I much prefer the brush and roller!
Stuart, had the same problem with my one as you did with yours, coincidentally with exactly the same Leyland paint, tried it with another paint, worked really well, I think its the opacity of the paint.
Even diluted down could not get it to work. Good luck with your one.
I have the same set up. So, another little tip, when cleaning, is to make sure you remove from under the sprayer lid, the white disk that has the tube sticking down into the paint! It will enable you to give it a proper clean but also paint can get trapped between the disk and the lid which, if not cleaned off, will eventually dry, and reduce performance! I have to say, I find the cleanup to be fairly quick. I use an old car sponge and a bucket of water, a hose and also an old kitchen sponge that has a scotchbrite pad to clean off the awkward bits of paint. But otherwise, very nice video!
Another excellent video. I had a Wagner (not your model) but lost it to one of our sons; that’s the price of a family.
I think the real quandary for many people is that balance between brands. By which I mean does spending a lot on a known brand (say De Walt) get a better tool than, say, a tool from Aldi or Lidl. Much may depend upon the amount of usage but would I be better off buying 3 x Aldi during the lifespan of a De Walt?
My upbringing was always “ buy cheap; buy twice” and so I have always bought the best (usually the most expensive) tool that I could afford. As a result, my workshop is full of DeWalt, Bosch, Marita, Festool with Axminster Trade heavier machinery plus very good quality hand tools (eg Veritas planes and Iles chisels). It’s all very good, gives me pleasure to use a quality piece and nothing has failed without reaching old age.
But, I did buy a Katsu battery router as I wanted a battery machine for a particular job. It’s half (?) the price of a big brand and…..it’s superb. Whether it will last 20 years, I don’t know but I doubt that I will be doing those jobs then.
I’ve got many internal walls to paint with emulsion plus a lot of tall wooden fence panels and, like you it seems, I buy tools as an investment (although at 68, my pay back period gets shorter each year). I was persuaded away from another Wagner really because of mediocre views of it for internal walls. So, I bought a Grace Ultra battery model -strictly for me I hope. It does get very good reviews although there is an acceptance that it wouldn’t be suitable for all day painting. Well, my body won’t let me do anything for more than a couple of hours and so, I hope the model and my body are suited to each other.
My model was £500 - so a lot more than yours. I hope that the extra cost does bring me a a really high class finish on internal walls. It’s first job will be to do a 9.6m wall where I have made and fitted wall panelling together with linen fold panels. So, a real nightmare for brush or roller but it shouldn’t matter for a sprayer.
So, where is the tipping point for people to invest rather than dispose? Too late for me but it seems to be the question that younger people have to work out.
I needed a battery operated paint sprayer, so as I live in OZ I bought an Ozito from Bunnings and I have to say for a cheapie it's brilliant, I only use it for decking, kids treehouse and the wife's garden studio. Cleans up easily with mineral turps and no long leads. We do have Wagner here but way too dear for their 18v system. Thanks for your great video. Cheers
I brought a $340Au Ozito airless sprayer and paints fences and other framing like pro it’s all in the mix and TLC of the equipment
I always dilute emulsion when I use my Wagner sprayer and always make sure you keep the filter clean on the blower unit
My better half bought a Tilswall 550W all-in-hand electric sprayer, I used it for our close board fencing, it worked but it was heavy to handle and getting the Ronseal OneCoat (same as your stain, undiluted) to flow meant I ended up pretty much shaking the sprayer to keep the flow going. My application was much heavier, then resulted in an uneven and patchy mess when I tried to get a similar amount of material applied to brush+roller, I assume this is mostly because it was my first attempt spraying anything. I used a plastic drinking cup to transfer the material, I was a bit worried about getting kitchen equipment clean enough again!
Going for the larger unit was 100% the right way to go and this one is probably going to frustrate me whenever I need to get it out again.
Many electric sprayers allow a tube feed directvto sprayer. My wagner does and its a simple cheap add on kit. Buy a 15l pail and dilute the 10l paint into that ensuring its well mixed. Then move it along. A 3-4 metre tube is best cable tied to pail. I painted a 20m x 3m wall and it took 20 minutes. Then a second coat 30mins later.
Our neighbour did a lovely job of his fence with one of these. Trouble was, one side of my shed had a curious speckled finish after he finished! Not to be used on windy days!
I always decant my fence stuff into a large bleach container and predilute it, then it's easy to tip into the sprayer with no drips. I've had many messy days of ladels and cups before this!
Thanks a lot for you perfect video. I receive the Wagner W450 for Christmas and when i see your video i'm sure it's a good gift.
At first I thought that an electric spray gun would be great, but once you've settled for a brand, you are locked in. Was it so hard for Wagner to give all containers the same diameter, so containers can be swapped out? Also, you can only paint with this set. With a more classic compressor based setup, you can also attach other tools like sanders, grinders, screw/bold drivers, tackers, but also smaller air brush heads for finer work. Plus you can match and mix components of different brands making it much more likely the cheaper solution in the long run. The compressor with a air nozzle can also be used to clean up your work shop. At a price of roughly $180, you can get also a very decent compressor based air spray setup with a long hose....
As I'm going to renovate an complete RV, I went for the compressor set because at least for the coming 2 to 3 years that would serve my needs a little bit more.
Thanks for your video and honest remarks in the video!
One of the first jobs I've done in my last two homes is to paint the internal walls of my garage/workshop white.
It makes for a much brighter and more "comfortable" workplace.
It would be an ideal opportunity for you to experiment with the settings of the other spray gun.
From bitter experience, when spraying a fence the over spray is a big problem when you have neighbours. The paint goes through the tiniest of gaps. You need to put some sort of protective shield behind the fence.
True for me a white Mercedes
This will be fine for fences and plastered walls. I’m not convinced on its suitability for mdf furniture. Be interesting to see if you try that and if I’m wrong. I use a compressor and a midi spray gun for water based furniture finishes. Found I needed some ooomph to properly atomise the paint and lay it down with some force in order to get the factory-quality sprayed finish I was looking for.
Bought the 4000 unit yesterday. Painted 300 ft of cedar fence( inside and out). I read the directions to my son while he set it up. We found a seal/washer, inside the nozzle section had been placed incorrectly at the factory. Hence a grove in it was facing the wrong way. The
unit has all the adjustability of a production automotive paint gun. Not a simple one gun setting fits all. We got close prior to our test panel, and it was an easy adjust or two, to get what was deemed a fair final setting. Made amazingly fast work of the 8ft tall fence. Clean up, while a bit entailed is easy. Using an expendable toothbrush and thinner( oil based stain ) we had it as new in 25 min. Use a stepped process with increasingly cleaner results. Last thing we did was use absolutely clean material ( 2 table spoons of thinner in our case ) sprayed shaking the gun. Never use the cup liners though.
I use a kitchen measuring jug to fill the the spray kettle with. Works a treat.
I had the hand held version.....hard on the wrist though ! but it easily coped with three large bedrooms a large living room and two storey staircase, above my shop, but we left the old carpets down and masked all the windows with newspaper....a good investment !
I use same sprayer there is 2 easy ways to fill pot, either use tape to make a "V" pattern on paint tub which allows it to flow in thin flow or cut a 2 litre pop bottle in half and put in top of receptacle upside down.
Thank you for this. I’m in the same situation looking for a sprayer. Looks like something I’m looking for
Great instructive video, I'm getting one for my fence and summerhouse 👍
Your Video is great Thank you , I have the Wagner Flexio 590, And the weight doesn't bug me. Wagner is a good product
When I first began looking for an inexpensive but great working paint sprayer, Wagner was at the top of my list. I want to spray paint my house shop and shed and also be able to do smaller jobs. That Wagner you used would likely do the trick except for holding too small amount of paint/stain.
I have a compressor so am also looking into the pressure pot sprayers. More paint.
How did you get on Mark? I’m going to spray my house and shed too and would value a quick reply.
@@Ukmongoose3 It looks like using a high volume low pressure sprayer may be a cheaper way to go, though the sprayers that have a pump may be better for thicker stuff. I have a pump up sprayer that I can use for thin stuff. I am not going to get this done this year :-(
Trips to the soup kitchen.. very funny. I find a cheap plastic 2 pint kitchen jug from a pound shop cuts down trips to the SK. Another well made, funny and informative video Stuart.
Thank you, Stuart, I'm in the market for a decent sprayer unit.
One thing about filling the unit with paint/stain, I'm thinking you could you use something like a plastic spout/fluming made up to fit a 10 litre bucket that fits around the rim of the bucket and is removable after use.
I bought a Wagner W100 spray gun. Pretty impressed with it
I bought one during lockdown and covered 15 fence panels in no time at all, filling the reservoir was a pain but the job was done in less than half a day!
I got lucky and stumbled across your channel. Really enjoy it! Greetings from the USA!
Good job to take us through the issues of concern. Thanks. Well-done.
I've used this exact Wagner model to paint cars, with reasonably good results. When everything's just right, it works beautifully (as my li'l metallic burgundy 1957 Thunderbird would attest). But I'm in a warm part of the world and all my jobs are outside, so temperature seems to play a big role. I'm still trying to suss out whether the gun itself affects that equation, because the turbine motor definitely heats up the air if you're spraying more than just a minute or two. I only use the smaller gun, which Wagner calls a "detail nozzle". Thinning/reducing to the proper consistency is important since you can't change nozzle sizes, and I feel Wagner's documentation in that area is a little lacking in detail. After much toying with the fan speed and volume knob on the gun itself, I'm still not getting consistent results, although with my current 1959 Galaxie project, I'm starting now to suspect I'm having issues with the paint itself. Wagner makes a model called a Moto-Coat, which I believe is this identical machine but with an even longer hose. All in all, depending on your needs, I think this is a great little setup. Thanks for the video!
You're correct, the pump hasn't a clue what you're spraying. It's the spray nozzle that is designed for particular types of paint.
Then rather than calling it a 'wall or 'metal' nozzle, they should call it an 'emulsion' or 'varnish' nozzle - that's the point
I went for an airless sprayer, EAPS600, which pumps directly out of the container and can shift a lot of product. For 160gbp you're entering semiprofessiomal space as it supports different tips from big brands like Graco etc
I’m going for an airless sprayer too. The prices are so good it would be foolish not to try them given that painting is basically a chore.
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Thank you for taking the time to do this video 👍🏻
I'm using Ingco company small one , it's really great I used wood , metal and walls too but outside so many things matters specially thickness of paint also when u doing outside air also matter it flew few color , so far it's good technology and easy for home users and save money all companies are different qualities
Your wife may ask have you seen the ladel.
Came across your channel a few days ago and have been watching a lot of your content. Love the information provided, comparisons, do's and don'ts tips and tricks keep at it. I get its doubling all jobs showing how its done but appreciate all the extra effort to help everyone else out.
Use a lid edge to pour paint from the container to the pot. if it is thick paint dilute 15% with demineralized. Clean the ti p and nozzle regularly. Like every few mins if you are doing an important job. Use a pipe cleaner to keep it paint free. You also need to clean the valve which sits under the clear plastic tube. Invert the gun first or you'll lose the tiny valve. They are noisy. Also paint mist goes everywhere. Drop sheets everywhere inside!. Lastly Taubman's Hybrid Enamel is amazing. It sticks like glue, is not smelly and dries fast. Once Dry it sticks like glue.
Use a kitchen silicone spatula to clean out the container. Also works well for getting all the paint out of any plastic pot.
Excellent video thank you I’m going to buy the Wagner now as I’ve got over 14 panels to do 👍
Thank you, we have a lot fence and that's just saved me buying a battery powered one. Thanks 🙂
Once again I am full of awe with your advice, I too bought a sprayer some 8 months ago but didn't really go through the break down process that you did that brought you to your final decision. Needless to say I absolutely wasted my £74 and whenever I need another tool I will be doing the due diligence to make sure I don't make the same mistake again. I believe I am becoming a better DIYer having had the opportunity to see how you tackle problems and then to follow your advice. Keep up the great work and I always look forward to your next video.
Thank you Tony
Well presented video. Looks a fine piece of kit like the idea of not carrying the compressor unit. Might be an idea to use a viscosity cup for quality finish projects. Thanks for sharing
I was going to ask about the viscosity. All the videos I've watched on sprayers have used them. Do you need one with a Wanger? Well presented btw.
This couldn't have come at a better time. I've 50 yards of fence I need to paint, and was dreading doing it by brush.
Good video. Definitely wear a mask when spraying. Micro droplets will be in the air and you will unknowingly inhale them. I speak from experience!
I bought my Wagner sprayer for pebbledash walls. It's a game changer
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Get yourself a Cyclone paint mixer attachment for your drill, they are cheap and fantastic. Can also be used for small quantities of plaster. Ultimate Handyman has a video on RUclips showing them. I got one after seeing his video and have had mine for years now and it is still like new as it is well made and stainless steel. Well worth the few quid. Best of all it mixes your paint brilliantly in no time at all. Just remember to stop spinning it before lifting it out the paint!
Thanks Stuart. Your thought process was interesting and makes sense, but that's exactly how the manufacturers get us to upgrade to a machine we didn't really want to buy! I'd like to see the results with the cheaper sprayer and whether the marketing material actually does hold true.
In 2020 I painted our fence, starting with a 4" brush and then realising how long the full sized panels actually took. So I got my Lidl Parkside £25? sprayer out and did the rest with the sprayer. My paint container looked similar size to yours so yes it needed filling for every panel side. Yours did look to eject the paint faster, but worth the extra?
I found that a lot of the fence paints were either only guaranteed for 1 or 2 years or not stated as compatible with a sprayer. Fence life plus was the only one I found that was 5 year coverage, but so far it's not living up to the marketing, had to be touched up last year and again will need it this year. There must be more to life than painting the fence every year!
Could be, you could come and do mines aswell 😂😂
Glad to see you used the kitchen ladle to load up the paint container. I do the same to avoid the mess you get when pouring paint from cans into trays or the spray canister. However, it did get me into trouble with SWIMBO who insisted that even after washing off the emulsion paint the ladle was now not fit for use in the kitchen again. A new ladle for the kitchen was needed & the original is now relegated to the garage for decorating use only. I've only ever used my cheap electric Ferm spray gun for doing fence panels. TBH the finish is OK for fences but not good enough for internal walls & ceilings. It also drips quite a bit from the overspray guard so it would a nightmare to use indoors. Your gun looks a lot better.
Same here, made me laugh when I saw it. I just soaked the emulsion off and stuck it in the dishwasher overnight, and let her re-introduce it to the tools drawer.
I have one of the pin type fence sprayers, seems to be o.k. with fencelife etc. but it must be a calm day or you'll get loads on you and the concrete posts.
Nice one
Very similar to my wife's spray tan machine, although i don't think she'd be too happy me using it to spray the fences. Definitely looking into one of these units tho.
If you do use it for the fence make sure you remember to take the Ronseal out or she’ll be oak tanned for 5 years guaranteed! 😁
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I had a smaller Wagner version which did well the first time but despite what I thought was meticulous washing failed the second time. I think it was the paint change and realised I had to thin the it to such an extent it was coloured water. Maybe I should have gone with the bigger one. I reverted to rollers and brushes after.
I have this one and will be attacking my kitchen cabinets soon. Thank you for the tips
Tried a few over the years but usually the £50-70 level. OK results but the 690 looks the proper tool. I would not use one inside the house as furniture etc make it too fussy and risky. Yes you can lay dust sheets, remove the TV etc but its more than the usual protection and overspray and paint particles in the air...not for me. But for fences that looks fantastic