I personally don’t understand the comment section where debate over when Christ coming happens. More specifically, because the point of John Piper sermon is about loving the truth in such a way that you will not be idle in your worship and day-to-day walk, and so that you won’t be deceived. All I know about the second coming is that it’s coming. And like Paul washer says, everyone’s eschatology will be cleared up on the day it happens. Whether it’s pre-or post or any other category, it’s going to happen. Those in Christ be encouraged and rest assured that are rest is coming. Those not in Christ, please turn from your sin, and believe the most beautiful message of the gospel where you can be forgiven, made new and inherit eternity.
John Piper, the Holy Spirit led me to you. I have learned so much from you. You are a very anointed man of God and used mightily by God. I thank God for your ministry and may He continue to bless you, your family and your ministry.
Thank the Lord Pastor John posted this now. With the current health crises, wolves are out in droves howling "the end is upon us!". Accompanying their message is of course, an imminent rapture that is only seconds away. This sermon says "nope, not right now!" to both. God bless.
I have a sincere question and hope you can provide a sincere answer. --------- Since the Bible teaches there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" why do you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? Why do you not preach what God has specifically NAMED in Scripture? --------- In Mat 22:2 God specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 13 (many verses) God NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 25:1-13 God NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and God specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. ----------- The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah. ----------- Since the Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is also shown as the 7-Headed Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and as Satan's "Little Season"... ------------ In other words, PEOPLE living in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living during the reign of the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season". -------------- And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living on earth when the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth. ------------- In Matthew 25:1-13 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called the ten "toes" and ten "kings" who are living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are called "ten Horns" and "ten Kings". In Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings". ------------- BTW... since Daniel 7:11-12 shows these PEOPLE are "given to the Burning Flame" and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is "cast into the Lake-of-Fire" we can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine that Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations cannot stand because NOBODY preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdom" continue to have their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12] AFTER the PEOPLE living in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire. Therefore, Daniel's Beasts/Kingdoms MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms. Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven". --------------- This is ignoring the fact that God PROMISED the truth about Daniel's prophecies would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to all the saints) until the "time-of-the-end", also shown as the "Season and Time" after the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations" on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are immediately proven false because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed". ------------- Given this "harmony of Scripture" and the reality that God has specifically NAMED four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth... my sincere question to you is WHY are you not currently preaching all of these Biblical Truths? ---------------
I strongly believe Richard Dawkins is the man of lawlessness/ son of perdition, for he exalts himself above every god and religion. He fell away and rebelled when at 15 he turned away from following Christ. He promotes all delusions such as evolution and the book The God Delusion and most recently Outgrowing God. So the end is so close and Christ Jesus can return at any time. The rain is about to fall so to speak as in times of Noah.
@@wisevirgin3405 are you saying all end time theories rn are false because the stuff about the seals in revelations is happening now some people even say we're in the sixth seal.
@@fiji9905 ... I am saying all end-time theories are false because the BIBLE promises the Truth would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" to all Saints until the Last Saints "shall understand" [Dan 12:8-10]. Jesus PROMISED the Last Saints "shall see ALL THESE THINGS", meaning the fulfillment of all Great Tribulation (Revelation Beast) prophecies [Mat 24:15, 24:33] And the Bible is clear the "Man of Sin" is only "revealed" to the Saints living AFTER the Holy Spirit has been "taken out of the way" [2Thess 2:3-9] ---------------- In other words any "interpretation" on the fulfillment of end-time events IS PROVEN WRONG because it was developed when the Bible PROMISED it was "closed-up" and "sealed". ----------------- www.5thKingdomofHeaven.com -----------------
@@bndfglvllddjdkfkfkf6097 read the gospel, all 4 books. In there is the book of John 3:3-7 where Jesus spoke that u must be born again. Born of the water & Spirit of God is needed to enter into his kingdom. In John 3:3-7, this is a supernatural birth from above. And it was also fulfilled in Acts 2:38-39. On the day of Pentecost is when the church was born. Remember, the church is not a building. After the gospel, read the book of Acts. We must obey the gospel, Matthew. Mark. Luke & John. There are dire consequences if we don't obey the gospel, & do not know God & who will be punished w everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord. (2nd Thessalonians 1:7-9). We must all get our house in order. This is a crisis we are in w/ whatever is going on. May the Lord fill you w the Holy Ghost. Acts 1:8 says, you will receive power once the Holy Ghost has come upon you. Blessings from Texas
Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” 2 Tim 2:19 - God have mercy, and deliver us from the evil one, that we might stand!
I love this message. From my long experience, almost all teachers teach a certain passage with a certain eschatology in mind and they try to make the passage fit into that view. Here, Piper teaches the text simply for what it says without trying to force-fit it into any particular point of view.
You need God's approval.God has a plan,His plan,not yours.You need to fing His plan,not your fire burning desire. Be sure not to engage in a ministry God never called you to do. I'm just saying that because there was a pastor Kenneth Hagin,baptised in the Holy Spirit with a great ministry and after 12-16 years(can't remember) the Lord told him He never called him to that ministry,it was his desire,but not God's perfect plan for his life.Obviously he was shocked,but he explained that God has a plan and if we don't seek for His approval or His will,then we end up doing something agains God's plan.
@@Premariss97 Interesting thoughts, we should always seek the lords will. The problem is that you are assuming God will not will someone to start a ministry. A ministry is an organisation dedicated to the spread of the gospel. You will be hard pressed to make a case that God really told that man anything since he got it wrong the first time (according to himself) I would suggest rather it was his sinful self that told him never to have started the ministry. Can you imagine people who would not have been saved if he never started a ministry to spread the gospel for 12 years+ ? Read the great commision carefully we are all ministers of the gospel.
@@gavin_hill I agree with you, John said that we cannot receive even 1 thing except it was granted to us by heaven. So with that said, God must've put it on his heart to start a ministry! Atleast that's how I take that!
@@gavin_hill I know that,I thought about all the people who got saved and discovered their own plan during his ministry as well. Yes,we are all called to spread the gospel. But God has a specific plan and will for each one of us. I know very well from my fellowship that there wes a couple really enthusiastic to go and pioneer a church.The pastor,as I remember,prayed for them and had a prophecy that it was not God's will and not God's plan.But they refused to believe that and went to pioneer.After months or even one year they realised they were not called for that specific ministry,and even though they had the will and disipline,they realized it was all their selfish desire(for a good purpose). Now,I didn't tell you not to do it,just that you should always seek for God's will for your life,especially when it comes to starting your own ministry. Now,this pastor Kenneth(who is well known as one of the most respected men of God of the 20th century) began everything by his own will,and obviously God used him and his ministry so save other souls.But it was only when he entered into the presence of God,and Jesus told him from now you will enter into the first phase of the ministry I have for you.
I was a pretrib all my life but a few years ago, I decided to go look for this myself in the Bible and to my absolute bewilderment I couldn’t find it to sustain itself under scrutiny. So far my understanding is that Christ’s second coming happens at the opening of the 6th seal and before the opening of the 7th. I think thats a midtrib approach. Whatever it is I love the Lord and His truth. If its a pretrib, a midtrib or posttrib the Lord will sustain and carry us to the end.
Same discovery upon self study. At the sixth seal, simultaneous with the 7th trumpet blowing, which is Jesus returning, is the resurrection of the dead in Christ, and rapture of the still living (that's the mystery of God in the verse below - the New Covenant Church, indwelled with His Spirit). This is the last day and end of the world (it's the end of time, so there is no 1000 years of an old earth millennial kingdom, the kingdom is now (Matt 12:28) - Amillennial). Next is the wrath of God being instantly poured out on earth, followed by the resurrection of the rest of the dead (Rev 20:5), and the judgment of all the dead, just and unjust, either from God's one book of life He wrote, or each individual's "book" they lived without God (Rev 20:12), and the beginning of the eternal Kingdom that has come finally literally. As in the days of Noah and Lot, God rescues His people and destroys the wicked on the very same day. (Luke 17:27, 29) Revelation 10:6-7 KJV And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that *_there should be time no longer:_* [7] But *_in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished,_* as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Revelation 1:9 KJV I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, *_and in the kingdom_* and patience *_of Jesus Christ,_* was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. IMHO, of course. God bless you!
@@PuppetryInMotion Thank you so much for your reply brother. I have never thought that the seven seals and the seven trumpets happened simultaneously though. Could you please elaborate a bit more? I have recently come to understand - based on studies and studying - that the seven bowls and the 7 trumpets sound very much alike and could be one and the same as well. I always thought of all this happening in quick succession but not at the same time (which makes it all sound a thousand times more terrifying than I could possibly imagine).
@@katyekel Revelation not my strong point. I've come to believe it's been unfolding since written (John wrote - these things must shortly come to pass). For sure, He's coming on the last day of the world for His Church (John 6:39-40,44,54), and the tares are taken away first, while the wheat is left shining in the Kingdom like the sun. God bless! Matthew 13:41-43 KJV The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and *_they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,_* and them which do iniquity; [42] *_And shall cast them into a furnace of fire:_* there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. [43] *_Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father._* Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
2 Thes. 2 teaches that the second coming and the rapture occur before the man of lawlessness is revealed. The Wrath of God and the Great Tribulation are not the same thing though I believe that both occur within Daniel’s 70th week. People use verses that say that believers will not suffer God’s wrath to prove that believers will not suffer tribulation. Matthew 24 parallels the first 6 seals in Revelation 6 in content and in order but not always the same level of detail. Matthew 24:7-8 “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.” This is the same as the first 4 seals in Revelation 6:1-8. Matthew 24:9 says “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.” This closely reflects the fifth seal in Revelation 6:9. Matthew 24:29 says “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.” This is same as the 6th seal in Revelation 6:12-13. Joel says that this event occurs before the Day of the Lord. Joel 2:31 “The sun shall be turned into darkness,And the moon into blood,Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.”
@katyekel @KeepTheSayings I also believed in a preTrib rapture, and like you, I studied and couldn't find a pre-trib rapture in the Bible...or in Christian history. In fact, hardly anyone in all of Christian history before 1830 believed in a pre-trib rapture. Darby and Schofield made this teaching popular in the 1830s and this became the predominant belief in America around 100 years ago. Prior to 1830, almost every Christian believed in what you now believe (called Historical Premillenialism...the rapture is after the great tribulation, when Jesus returns), or believed in what is called amillenienism. There are other beliefs too but they were never widely held.
Why will they be deceived? They refuse to LOVE the TRUTH. Eschatology details and charts and timelines aside, LOVE THE TRUTH. I appreciate that this sermon gets to the heart of why eschatology matters. Come, Lord Jesus. Amen! 🖤
Thanks for the message! My heart swells in joy over the years over the truth and sound doctrine. May the Lord grant “a love for the truth” in our churches.
How sad that John Piper does not realize the "revealing" of the Man of Sin is the SAME EVENT as seeing the "Abomination of Desolation" [Mat 24:15]. ----------- John Piper does not realize WHEN these things occur. He assumes the revealing of the Man of Sin (and seeing Daniel's Abomination) occur at the END of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 13:11,24,31,33,44,47,52] But that is a mistake. ------------- The revealing of the Man of Sin and the saints seeing Daniel's Abomination and the rule of the Anti-Christ during the Great Tribulation of Satan's "Little Season" all occur AFTER the end of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" and during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" (also shown as Daniels 4th Beast) -------------- Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. --------------- John Piper knows the revealing of the Man of Sin (and return of the Lord) occurs at the END of the age... but what he does not realize is that it occurs at the END of the FOURTH "Kingdom of Heaven" and not the THIRD Kingdom. --------------- The Bible is very clear that there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom"... John Piper knows the Man of Sin is revealed at the END of the age, but he ASSUMES it is the end of the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" instead of [Mat 25:1] the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven". --------------- If John Piper knew more he would realize the man called the "Little Horn" in Daniel's FOURTH Beast is the same as the Man of Sin in 2nd Thess. And this "Anti-Christ", who does not rise until the FOURTH Beast [Dan 7:8] ruling over the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1 above] is the same event as the Abomination of Desolation that is "placed" or "set-up" during Daniel's Fourth Beast. [Dan 11:31 and 12:11] ----------- Basically, John Piper (and all who are reading this comment) fail to understand that AFTER the end of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" Satan is loosened from the Bottomless Pit and rules (thru his Anti-Christ) during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven". -------------- In other words... Daniel's Fourth Beast is also shown as the Revelation Beast and also shown as the Great Tribulation and also shown as the reign of the Anti-Christ and also shown as Satan's "Little Season". --------------- So the PEOPLE living in Daniel's Fourth Beast are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast(s) and the SAME PEOPLE living during the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and the SAME PEOPLE living during the rule of the Anti-Christ during Satan's "Little Season". --------------- And we can know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the people living on earth when the Lord Returns. In other words, they are the LAST SAINTS on earth before the Lord Returns. --------------- So... the great "falling away" occurs during the FOURTH Kingdom (not the church age) and the revealing of the Man of Sin and the Last Saints seeing Daniel's Abomination of Desolation all occur during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven". ---------------- This is easily proven by Matthew 25:1-13. The EVENTS of that prophecy (which end with the "final harvest" cannot be talking about the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" because of verses 25:8-10. At NO TIME during the church age (at no time after Pentecost) do the saints REFUSE to preach and send those seeking God off to some other (unnamed) people. ---------------- Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. ----------------- You can LEARN all the details about Daniel's "Abomination of Desolation" and the revealing of the "Man of Sin" by carefully reading the following: ------------------ www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8 -------------------
@@wisevirgin3405 The man of sin is revealed 3 1/2 years into the 70th week of Daniel when he takes the seat of God in the Temple. Then the Great Tribulation, which is cut short. Then the rapture then the wrath of God is poured out through the 7 trumpets and 7 vials. Then Satan is locked up for a thousand years as Jesus Christ reigns on the earth. THEN, Satan is released and he gathers the nations to attack and surround Jerusalem but Jesus destroys them with fire.
@@garyedwards8245 ... Child, you do not have a CLUE what you are talking about. First Satan was "bound" at the Cross. Jesus and the saints rule throughout the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" (church age). The Apostles and the early church (with Augustine) and most of the Reformers understood that the Bible teaches an A-Millennial binding of Satan (during the church age). The notions that you are teaching are NEW HERESIES not know to the early church. ----------- Now... how can I say that? Because the early church believed in the imminent Return of Christ. They did not believe it would be 2000 years away. ----------- BTW Child... the 3.5 days are also show as 3.5 years and 3.5 "times" and 3.5 "watches of the night". So if you want to pretend that you know something about the period known as Daniel's Fourth Beast and/or the Revelation Beast and/or the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1] and/or the reign of the Anti-Christ (aka "Little Horn") during Satan's "Little Season" then you MUST be able to "harmonize" ALL RELATED SCRIPTURE. ------------ But you do not know ANY of this... why is that child? The Bible PROMISED the Last Saints "shall understand" the "sealed" mysteries of Daniel's prophecies [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10] and the Lord PROMISED that the Last Saints "shall see ALL of these things" [Mat 24:15 and 24:33], meaning ALL of the Great Tribulation prophecies being fulfilled. -------------- Child... do yourself a favor and LEARN something about these things before you pretend to KNOW something. Take a deep breath and READ the info on the link below... and then see if you can find ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts anything on that site. If you are not willing to TEST your false doctrines against any/all other doctrine then you are showing the "fruit" of an unsaved "tare" instead of a saved "wheat/sheep/saint". It is really as simple as that child... you are known by your "fruit". And showing ignorance and the REFUSAL to test your doctrine is not good "fruit". ---------------------- www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8 ------------------------
@@garyedwards8245 Philetus & Alexander come to mind. Just the latest online wiseway claiming his interpretation is the only correct one, and the rest of the world is wrong...and he's here to save us from the error of our ways (LOL)
For those that are enduring thinking I can't handle much more so soon we will be saying I can't believe it all went so fast. We will say I can't believe I was so worried. A vapor. Caught in a vapor soon to be blown away by the next breeze. Worried for a short moment. Endured for a short while. For he suffered for us first, and don't ever forget that you're NOT ALONE!!!! Psalm 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Psalm 27:1 The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? Deuteronomy 31:6 Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the Lord thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.
Hebrews 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
This is my “go to” thought process during difficult times. Like how spring is always suddenly upon us and overnight the trees are green after a long barren winter, and the sun makes you forget what the cold even felt like.
This guy is a heretical devil go watch this video I just uploaded yesterday! I draw distinctions between the second coming and the pre-trib rapture. They are clearly two separate distinct events ! Paul the Apostle was given the pre-trib Rapture as a mystery. It's the helmet of salvation. This heretic is robbing you of your helmet of salvation watch my video and learn how to rightly divide your Bible as commanded by Paul in (2nd Timothy 2:15) so you will not be deceived by this devil ruclips.net/video/D7iklTDqFhY/видео.html
I believe he's biblically sound on 90% of what he says - about as good as anyone out there. The items I disagree on are secondary, non- salvational issues, which I or the Pastor could be right or wrong about, and it would not make much of a difference. Point is, were all unlikely to agree with any pastor 100% of the time - if you find one who is at 90% or even 80%, you know you've got one you should listen to
I have a sincere question and hope you can provide a sincere answer. --------- Since the Bible teaches there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" why do you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? Why do you not preach what God has specifically NAMED in Scripture? --------- In Mat 22:2 God specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 13 (many verses) God NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 25:1-13 God NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and God specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. ----------- The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah. ----------- Since the Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is also shown as the 7-Headed Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and as Satan's "Little Season"... ------------ In other words, PEOPLE living in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living during the reign of the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season". -------------- And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living on earth when the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth. ------------- In Matthew 25:1-13 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called the ten "toes" and ten "kings" who are living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are called "ten Horns" and "ten Kings". In Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings". ------------- BTW... since Daniel 7:11-12 shows these PEOPLE are "given to the Burning Flame" and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is "cast into the Lake-of-Fire" we can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine that Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations cannot stand because NOBODY preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdom" continue to have their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12] AFTER the PEOPLE living in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire. Therefore, Daniel's Beasts/Kingdoms MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms. Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven". --------------- This is ignoring the fact that God PROMISED the truth about Daniel's prophecies would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to all the saints) until the "time-of-the-end", also shown as the "Season and Time" after the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations" on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are immediately proven false because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed". ------------- Given this "harmony of Scripture" and the reality that God has specifically NAMED four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth... my sincere question to you is WHY are you not currently preaching all of these Biblical Truths? ---------------
@@wisevirgin3405 -- There are no four Kingdoms of Heaven. The Kingdom of Heaven (also known as the Kingdom of God) began with Christ's First Advent, and has been growing ever since, and at Christ's Second Advent the Kingdom will be completed.
@@gregb6469 .... Child, you have now expressed your "opinion". Let's see how your "opinion" compares to what the BIBLE says. ------------------------- First, there is a HUGE difference between the (Biblical) definition of the five (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven" and the one (1) Kingdom of God. Basically, the first four "Kingdoms of Heaven" are temporal "Kingdoms" in God's plan of salvation - while the (5th) "Kingdom of Heaven" represents all of the saved people from the first four temporal Kingdoms. Here is what the BIBLE says: ---------------- In Matthew 22:2 the BIBLE specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish (wait of it....) "Kingdom of Heaven". So what should we believe? Should we believe Greg is correct and Jesus was just LYING when He specifically NAMED the second "Kingdom of Heaven" on earth? (see how you embarrass yourself child?) -------------------- In Matthew 12 (in several verses) the Lord JESUS specifically NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" (the church). Now should we think that Jesus was telling a fairy tale (or LYING)? Should we believe Greg or Jesus? (I hope you see how much you are embarrassing yourself child) ---------------------- In Matthew 25:1 the Lord Jesus specifically NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation (wait for it....) "Kingdom of Heaven" on earth. Should we believe Jesus was LYING when He specifically NAMED this "Kingdom"? How should we believe, Greg, who teaches there is ONE "Kingdom of Heaven" (and it's the same as the Kingdom of God) or should we believe the Lord Jesus Christ? ---------------------- And the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" is specifically NAMED by Jesus in Matthew chapters 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. Assuming Jesus was not LYING when He specifically NAMED this (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" does this PROVE beyond any doubt that Greg is completely "clueless" and not qualified or capable of offering an "informed opinion" on this subject? Yes this proves Greg a fool. --------------------------- You can actually READ what the Bible says about the five "Kingdoms of Heaven on earth in chapters 3 and 5 (linked below) and you can LEARN the difference between the (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth and the (1) "Kingdom of God" in chapter 6 (also linked below). Child, whenever you talk about subjects that you cannot even DEFINE... then you only embarrass yourself and look the fool. ----------------------------- www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-3 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-5 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-6 ---------------------------------- Here is your PROBLEM child. Your personal "opinion" contradicts what JESUS SAID. So you must now argue that Jesus was telling fairy tales or that He was LYING in order to support your opinion on what He specifically NAMED in Scripture. How sad for you. --------------------------------- Next time you want to "offer an opinion" on what the BIBLE teaches you may want to actually STUDY what the Bible says instead of just expressing your personal "feelings" or repeating what someone TOLD you. Because you embarrassed yourself today child. (Unless you will actually argue that Jesus was LYING when He NAMED these "Kingdoms" ---------------------------------
@@wisevirgin3405 -- In the parallel passages in Mark and Luke Jesus uses the term Kingdom of God, which means that the terms Kingdom of Heaven and Kingdom of God are synonymous. You are seeing distinctions which do not exist. God has only one Kingdom, to which all of His people belong. This Kingdom has two phases, the present one, during which it is growing, and the future one, during which it will be complete.
As a faithful Ambassador for Father YAHweh's Resurrected Son YAHwehShua will never set foot on this earth again 2. Writing in about 110 AD, Josephus recorded, in great detail, Jewish history, 1st century Judaism, the ministry of YAHshua. 3. In a book called, "Wars of the Jews", Josephus describes the destruction of Jerusalem as YAHshua prophesied in Matthew 24. 4. Initially most people who believe in the Rapture have such a poor knowledge of the bible, the first time they learn this historical fact, is when they read it here on our Rapture Refuted website! At first they suffer from denial. Then they are confused when they are unable to deny this historical record. Finally they invent the double prophecy argument, namely that Mt 24 prophesies 70 AD and the second coming. This of course is pure fantasy because none of the signs of Matthew 24 are of the second coming.The Rapture was over in 66 A.D.
This guy is a heretical devil go watch this video I just uploaded yesterday! I draw distinctions between the second coming and the pre-trib rapture. They are clearly two separate distinct events ! Paul the Apostle was given the pre-trib Rapture as a mystery. It's the helmet of salvation. This heretic is robbing you of your helmet of salvation watch my video and learn how to rightly divide your Bible as commanded by Paul in (2nd Timothy 2:15) so you will not be deceived by this devil ruclips.net/video/D7iklTDqFhY/видео.html
@@christdiedandroseagainfory2133 ^ I hope you don't think your comment is Christlike... Scriptures say be wary of professing Christians who speak like you just did
@@christdiedandroseagainfory2133 Apply all of scripture. "Remind them of these things, and charge them before God not to fight about words. This is useless and leads to the ruin of those who listen. Be diligent to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who doesn’t need to be ashamed, correctly teaching the word of truth. Avoid irreverent and empty speech, since those who engage in it will produce even more godlessness, and their teaching will spread like gangrene. Hymenaeus and Philetus are among them." 2 Tm 2:14-17
Brothers, the Lord showed me 2 months ago, an extraordinary vision, regarding the DAY OF THE LORD. I saw myself outside, among the people, and suddenly, an immense light, which encompassed everything, coming from above, of an unimaginable force and power, hit us unexpectedly. At that moment, I didn't have time for anything, I just managed to shout: OH MY GOD! I woke up instantly, and I heard a voice in my head (I knew it was the Lord), which told me: GOAL! And then I told him, remembering that in the BIBLE, it is written that the Lord's Day is a day of great auspiciousness, as it has never been before and will never be again, and I asked Him if this is what we must do, when we see this light. The LORD answered me that that LIGHT is HIM and that our GOAL from that moment, for salvation, is to CRY FOR HIM!! What I can tell you, after this experience, is that the ONLY thing we need is FAITH in the LORD. Believe me, nothing will save us on that day, except HIM! Glory to our Lord! AMEN!!!!!!
One of the more *bizarre doctrines of Adventism* and Ellen G. White is her claim that The Apostle Paul writing in 2Thessalonians is on one hand making every effort to bring as many Gentiles ( *"all nations"* Rom.1:4) into the Church as possible, while at the same time, *the Adventist's* preach PAUL is telling everyone that His own Church which Christ instituted is going to become a great whore in less then 200 years. What people will do to justify themselves. In fact, what the Apostle Paul was saying was that the rebellion and persecution of the Church by the Sabbath keepers, was the acts of lawlessness against the authority of the Church, wherein some future date, the rebellion against Christ's duly established Church was going to find it's culmination in some egomaniac so full of himself, that he so try to undermine the authority of the Pope and Church, that he would attack the Church and the Pope to the point he would declare himself God in order to undermine the Pope and the chair of Peter. It is indeed, in the city of Thessalonica that this very thing took place *(Acts 17)* 5*But the Jews (devout Sabbath keepers) which believed not, *moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people.* (to be killed) 6 And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also; 7 Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another king, one Jesus. Here you have it, motivated by hate and envy, the fabrication of lies and persecution against the Church by devout Sabbath keepers in the very city to whom 2Thessalonians written. Again, to the Thessalonians in 1Thess. 1:14, Paul writes concerning the rebellious Sabbath keepers, *"they MURDERED BOTH CHRIST AND THEIR OWN PROPHETS."* (As Christ also taught in Mt. 23) *THEY PERSECUTED US* (THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH) They *"DON'T PLEASE GOD!"* And, they are *"CONTRARY TO ALL MEN"!* All these same things were taught by Christ in Mt. 23. The rebellion and persecution against the Church Christ himself established is well documented in the actions of the Judaizers who vowed they wouldn't eat or sleep until they murdered the Apostle Paul as they did James and later Peter and others. ' It is the Apostle Paul who wrote these inspired words engraved in scripture for all the world to see in every bible to the Church of Rome in his Epistle called "Romans" : Paul prophesied, *"The God of PEACE will crush Satan under YOUR feet"* *Rom.**16:20* This verse says all you need to know as to whose side people are on. Those who fight the Church of Rome, will be gathered with Satan and be crushed, as promised by the prophetic and inspired words the Apostle Paul, not given over to Satan as the Adventists teach.
Jesus said "Let those with ears to hear, let them hear." The temple is in the hearts of those with a divine soul. The lawless man is the being who engineered us in his image and stole & enslaved souls here in this world. We are born ignorant of who we really are in a world where everything around us is a deception. But deep down we know, have known since we were very young. We naturally avoid following whats empty or cruel no matter the Earthly punishment. The Christ promised us that he is coming back to free us. No more bondage of the material world. We return forever to our true home. The ones who parish are the organic portals. Ring a bell? Thank you Christ for coming here to tell us who we really are despite the suffering it caused you. I always suspected I didnt belong here. I'm so relieved you're coming back to bring me home.
Pastor John, thank you for sharing your insights with regards the man of lawlessness. I found it of much value. In light of the Biblical warnings of the coming deception i think it is important to keep in mind that G-D does not depend on us for His glory and human pleasure is not portrayed in the Bible as the sole way G-D is glorified. Nature, miracles/events can and does bring glory to G-D. Seeking "happiness" should not be our primary goal. We should guard against this especially at this time. If earthly hedonism is chasing after external sensory pleasures then too easily Christians (especially considering we are about to experience deception en masse) can be deceived into also chasing after "godly" extra-sensory pleasures (which technology/AI can easily and readily supply) which in turn promotes a preoccupation with/ indulgence of the self. I will stick with the Word on what we ought to do to please GOD. By implication it will be best for us to do so and will ensure peace and joy reigns in us: Mark 12:30 says, “And you shall love the Lord your GOD from your whole heart and from your whole soul and from your whole mind and from your whole strength.”
Indeed, its a good word. Mark McMillion does an excellent overview of Daniels end time 70 7's prophecy. This helped me s lot... ruclips.net/video/iPRDpUvrldo/видео.html
I feel sorry for you Frankie. I’m quite sure Paul wasn’t writing about the second coming just to tell you go back to work it’s clear this is about getting tithe money. The man of lawlessness is already here.
@@larryhall2977 depends on your observation. Depends on your understanding. Or maybe you didn't listen the whole message. But anyway keep it up with your own understanding.
@@HearGodsWord.... Child, you are right. Real saints don't bother to read new (to them) doctrines if it takes more than 2 minutes of their time.. Your "fruit" exposes you as NOT being a "wheat/sheep/saint". You are known by your "fruit" child. ----------------
@@wisevirgin3405 yeah copy and paste is so wise isn't it! Choosing not to read your comment has nothing to do with reading scripture. Using CAPS makes you seem more like a child than wise! You no nothing of my fruit! I simply enjoyed this sermon but I guess that bothers you, which is quite sad really.
@@HearGodsWord ... Child the question is NOT whether I should "copy and paste" MY OWN WORDS, but rather whether you can find ONE VERSE in the Bible that actually REFUTES anything I have said. ------------- So, you pretend that repeating the TRUTH over and over is a bad thing. But being ignorant of any Scripture to REFUTE that teaching is a good thing. You embarrass yourself child. You are known by your "fruit" and yours is only ignorance of any Scripture to refute - so you complain about repetition... go find a "safe place" to hide from reality snowflake. -------- BTW.. the BIBLE also repeats many verses... did the Apostles "copy and paste"? you embarrass yourself child. ------------
@@wisevirgin3405 calling me a child embarrasses yourself virgin! I made a simple comment and you run your mouth off on other things. I made no reference to any scripture so have shown no ignorance. But you feel the need to comment and I wasn't interested in what you had to say. It's quite simple, but then maybe you're not as wise as you think, perhaps some pride going on there. You are the child here and certainly not wise. Maybe you should go bother someone who cares what you think because you seem to crave attention, which is what a child would do. The fact is that you clearly had a problem with me enjoying this sermon. Maybe you're a young person looking for a disagreement which is why you talk about refuting scriptures.
Really? This whole chapter proves the pre trib rapture. John piper doesn’t understand what this passage really says. It says the the Thessalonians were afraid of the day of Christ. Why would they be afraid of the rapture being at hand if Paul said it's a comfort In 1 Thessalonians 4:18 and Titus 2:13? Because the day of Christ in verse 2-3 is referring to armageddon as Jesus comes back in Judgement. It’s not talking about our rapture. To know Jesus is coming to take you to heaven while being alive at the rapture before the tribulation and judgement that he releases is the biggest comfort anyone can ever get. It's not something that will trouble you. Paul's whole point in verse one is that in light of the rapture, we must not be shaken or troubled that the tribulation and second coming of Jesus in judgement is at hand This tribulation period and deception of the antichrist is for those who rejected the truth. (2 thess 2:9-12) THEY will suffer the antichrist because THEY received not the Love of the truth. The whole reason why the antichrist comes on the scene and deceives the world is the wrath of God on a world that rejected his truth. God sent his son to save the world but the wicked world rejected him, so God will allow and send the antichrist to deceive the world as a consequence and a tool for his wrath because the world rejected God's truth. Paul only mentions unbelievers in the tribulation in this passage. He never hinted we would see it because it’s meant for unbelievers. Piper didn’t read the whole chapter. He left out verses 13-17 which say we won’t be seeing any of the tribulation or antichrist because we believed the truth. 2 thess 2:13-17 says: BUT WE are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning CHOSEN YOU TO SALVATION through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the OBTAINING THE GLORY OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work." Here Paul says that God chose us for salvation. We won't be seeing any of the antichrist or tribulation because we did have belief of the truth and because that time is for unbelievers. He even mentioned that God chose to save us from it and called us to obtain the glory of Jesus. ( to receive our glorified bodies) and that happens in the rapture! He never mentions the Thessalonians in the tribulation. Why? Because the church is NOT going to be here. How do i know the salvation in verses 13-14 is referring to the rapture? Because the immediate context tells me. It’s talking about a time where the antichrist will rise and deceive the world but God chose us to save us from it. And he even mentions that the restrainer must leave first before the antichrist is revealed. V 6-7 ( Holy spirit dwelling in church) the church restrains evil because we have the HS in us. Don’t you know Jesus gave us power and authority over all evil spirits? The one in us is greater than the antichrist. 1 john 4:3-4. We must leave before because the body of Christ can overcome the antichrist with the power of the Holy Spirit! Paul is making a contrast between two groups in this passage. One group was left to suffer the tribulation and antichrist for not believing the truth. ( unbelievers. 2 Thess 2:9-12) And the other, (which is us) That God chose to save from it and to obtain the glory of Jesus for believing the truth. (The church. 2 thess 13-17) This sole chapter proves the church won’t be here for the antichrist and yet people misunderstand it 🤦🏼♂️
@@RUclipsChannel-vd6xn The problem, IMHO, is in bringing the idea of a pretrib rapture to the passages. This idea is then superimposed over the passages to make them seem to support it. This is seen in what you wrote. Actually, it's a fairly new idea in the church, becoming popular only in the last 180 years or so. Now, Jesus said he will return after the tribulation. Right? Okay, you have to prove to me that Paul was speaking of a different "coming" than the one our Lord spoke of in Matt. 24, Right? Paul even calls it his "coming" in 1 Thess. 4:15. Yet we are supposed to believe Paul had a different "coming" in mind? Really? I don't think so. Don't you think Paul would have made that clearer? Paul never says he comes before the tribulation, so it's an idea foreign to the passages, but brought to them. This is called eisegesis. For example, the wrath we are spared from Paul describes in 1 Thess. 5:1-3. Hope that helps. Anyway, I appreciate you friend and I know you have zeal for the Lord. Keep serving our Lord. God bless you.
The hamster wheel peoples. I talked to someone for 4 1/2 hours on the phone yesterday and I tried so hard to love, lecture preach I have 30 more years on this young girl I feel like I’m not doing my job unless I do exactly what I did yesterday and it just falls on deaf ears so please pray for the young men and women out there that are not hearing what we are trying to teach them. I never of course, want to ruin God‘s plan for these individuals however, when they ask complain, need want something from me I don’t wanna reset giving them anything before I do this not to mention, I don’t wanna be taken advantage of. Thank you for this message. It was much needed. God bless you all repent repent, repent stay in constant prayer. The time is near.
Those would be some disappointed children of God if we were still waiting since Paul told them that God would repay those who are afflicting them and that they would get relief at the Lords coming. If that didn’t happen in 1st century, then those believers did not receive what Paul promised. This teaching has believers waiting on a false deferred hope rather than living in the confidence in the New Covenant kingdom of God. Thank you Jesus!
It’s simple people who believe and accept god and Jesus as our saviors and our lords like me will see him when he returns and people who don’t will not see him
I have a sincere question and hope you can provide a sincere answer. --------- Since the Bible teaches there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" why do you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? Why do you not preach what God has specifically NAMED in Scripture? --------- In Mat 22:2 God specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 13 (many verses) God NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 25:1-13 God NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and God specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. ----------- The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah. ----------- Since the Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is also shown as the 7-Headed Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and as Satan's "Little Season"... ------------ In other words, PEOPLE living in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living during the reign of the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season". -------------- And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living on earth when the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth. ------------- In Matthew 25:1-13 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called the ten "toes" and ten "kings" who are living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are called "ten Horns" and "ten Kings". In Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings". ------------- BTW... since Daniel 7:11-12 shows these PEOPLE are "given to the Burning Flame" and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is "cast into the Lake-of-Fire" we can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine that Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations cannot stand because NOBODY preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdom" continue to have their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12] AFTER the PEOPLE living in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire. Therefore, Daniel's Beasts/Kingdoms MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms. Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven". --------------- This is ignoring the fact that God PROMISED the truth about Daniel's prophecies would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to all the saints) until the "time-of-the-end", also shown as the "Season and Time" after the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations" on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are immediately proven false because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed". ------------- Given this "harmony of Scripture" and the reality that God has specifically NAMED four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth... my sincere question to you is WHY are you not currently preaching all of these Biblical Truths? ---------------
@Psalm 27 .... Child, you have not even ATTEMPTED to answer my question. Instead you DEFLECTED to a different subject and you built a STRAWMAN. That is not the "fruit" of a saved "wheat/sheep"... that is the "fruit" of a "tare" Remember, you are KNOWN by your "fruit". ---------------------- Let me make this very simple for you child... when you preach, do you teach what Jesus has specifically NAMED in Scripture? Or do you intentionally ignore what Jesus has specifically NAMED? ------------------------ The Bible teaches there's four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before Jesus Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven", WHY would you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? WHY do you not preach what the Lord Jesus has specifically NAMED in Scripture? --------- In Mat 22:2 Jesus specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 13 (many verses) Jesus NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 25:1-13 Jesus NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" Jesus specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew chapters 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. These are all important Biblical FACTS. ----------- The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah. ----------- Read more about these five (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven" in chapters 3 & 5, the difference in "Kingdom of Heaven" and "Kingdom of God" is chapter 6 ----------- www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-3 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-5 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-6 -------------- Remember child... when you DEFLECT or when you build STRAWMEN you are not disrespecting ME... you are disrespecting the Word of God. Likewise when you intentionally IGNORE the verses cited above or the DOZENS of verses contained in the Links (above) you are not showing disrespect for Me child... you are showing disrespect for the Word of God. -------------- Remember... you are KNOWN by your "fruit". Will you now show the "fruit" of a saved "wheat/sheep" (child of God) or will you IGNORE Scriptures and show the "fruit" of unsaved "tares/goats" who are the "children of Satan"? ---------------------
+King Timex -- You said, "Many people need to hear this, and read their bible" --Yes, they do, and since the Rapture of the Church is imminent and he never mentioned it to my understanding, indeed, people need to read AND study their Bibles. It's throughout the New Testament, and God's word is TRUTH.
@@TheMistysFavs imminency? Listen to this sermon again, por favor. Then read the Word without Scofield's notes or Larkin's charts explaining it for you. I'd bet hard money that your Bible is a study/devotional Bible. You don't need it. Get yourself one without the opinion of a man written throughout!
Thank you for preaching the truth. You spoke about the heart that is so easily deceived, and recalled Jeremiah 17: 9 the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked...
Read Matthew 24:37-44, and this is not describing the event in the same chapter verse 9-28. The first is describes Jesus visible return after the Tribulation. The second passage describes the Rapture, which clearly says it will happen during the wheat harvest, two men in the field, two women at the mill grinding grain. Wheat harvest is in the spring to summer. We can know the season!
@@christdiedandroseagainfory2133 this blind guide is trying to tell you you will be jettisoned out at any time, maybe even before you finish reading this comment! Listen to Pastor John on this. He knows what he's talking about
@@George-ur8ow He's preaching the gospel of the kingdom a false gospel! Paul said if anyone preaches another gospel besides his let him be accursed! Go check my latest video out called (mid acts dispensationalism) it's 30 minutes You need to understand the difference between the gospel of the kingdom and the gospel of grace that's why this pastor is deceived
You have to check out video called the great salvation 52mis channel link is Https:// ?m.ruclips.net/video/BA0S6r13J1k/видео.html let me know want you think
Thank You! Jesus. This Easter Sunday..For Your Life..Your Death..for dying on the cross for me..and For Your Resurrection. Thank You For your Mercy and Grace and For Your Gospel. Thank You for the Gift of the Holy Spirit to abide with me..To Teach, to Comfort..To Guide me in my Life. Thank You! Jesus..For Everything!
Huey Leadbetter Thank You! Huey! I have come a long way from a cult. It is not an easy road and I still struggle with old indoctrinations sometimes. Jesus is a Good Teacher!
Kathleen Wharton - Still going on strong then, Kathleen. This man's message is not correct however, so keep looking to the Holy Spirit of Truth to teach you. (John ch. 14 v 1-3; 1 Thess. ch. 4 v 13-18).
Smeaton Lighthouse Yes! I listened to the message. It was totally opposite what Jesus teaches. But I felt Forgiving on Easter Sunday..so I forgave him and refrained from pointing it out. Jesus is my Teacher! He is the Best!
Smeaton Lighthouse Yes! We have to forgive teachers who teach falsehoods. The last act of Jesus on the Cross was that of forgiving His enemies the Pharisees. And He said..Those who forgive will be forgiven. Those who don’t forgive will not be forgiven. And then He was resurrected! have had a rough time forgiving titled men who used bible verses to control my life..But I got to Do it!
THANK YOU. I fear many brothers and sisters hold to amil and postmil positions not because it is the conscience's prayerful conviction of Scripture's meaning, but because they lack the faith and patience to make peace with the idea of 2,000 years being "soon." We are coming in from the highways and hedges, from the highways filling the hall. Mt 22:1-14, Lk 14:23-24. In light of what Christ did, what He suffered, the pleasure the Father must feel toward His Son- I posit that 2,000 years is not long enough. He's worthy of all!
I have a sincere question and hope you can provide a sincere answer. --------- Since the Bible teaches there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" why do you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? Why do you not preach what God has specifically NAMED in Scripture? --------- In Mat 22:2 God specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 13 (many verses) God NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 25:1-13 God NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and God specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. ----------- The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah. ----------- Since the Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is also shown as the 7-Headed Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and as Satan's "Little Season"... ------------ In other words, PEOPLE living in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living during the reign of the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season". -------------- And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living on earth when the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth. ------------- In Matthew 25:1-13 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called the ten "toes" and ten "kings" who are living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are called "ten Horns" and "ten Kings". In Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings". ------------- BTW... since Daniel 7:11-12 shows these PEOPLE are "given to the Burning Flame" and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is "cast into the Lake-of-Fire" we can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine that Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations cannot stand because NOBODY preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdom" continue to have their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12] AFTER the PEOPLE living in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire. Therefore, Daniel's Beasts/Kingdoms MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms. Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven". --------------- This is ignoring the fact that God PROMISED the truth about Daniel's prophecies would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to all the saints) until the "time-of-the-end", also shown as the "Season and Time" after the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations" on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are immediately proven false because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed". ------------- Given this "harmony of Scripture" and the reality that God has specifically NAMED four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth... my sincere question to you is WHY are you not currently preaching all of these Biblical Truths? ---------------
How sad that John Piper does not realize the "revealing" of the Man of Sin is the SAME EVENT as seeing the "Abomination of Desolation" [Mat 24:15]. ----------- John Piper does not realize WHEN these things occur. He assumes the revealing of the Man of Sin (and seeing Daniel's Abomination) occur at the END of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 13:11,24,31,33,44,47,52] But that is a mistake. ------------- The revealing of the Man of Sin and the saints seeing Daniel's Abomination and the rule of the Anti-Christ during the Great Tribulation of Satan's "Little Season" all occur AFTER the end of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" and during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" (also shown as Daniels 4th Beast) -------------- Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. --------------- John Piper knows the revealing of the Man of Sin (and return of the Lord) occurs at the END of the age... but what he does not realize is that it occurs at the END of the FOURTH "Kingdom of Heaven" and not the THIRD Kingdom. --------------- The Bible is very clear that there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom"... John Piper knows the Man of Sin is revealed at the END of the age, but he ASSUMES it is the end of the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" instead of [Mat 25:1] the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven". --------------- If John Piper knew more he would realize the man called the "Little Horn" in Daniel's FOURTH Beast is the same as the Man of Sin in 2nd Thess. And this "Anti-Christ", who does not rise until the FOURTH Beast [Dan 7:8] ruling over the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1 above] is the same event as the Abomination of Desolation that is "placed" or "set-up" during Daniel's Fourth Beast. [Dan 11:31 and 12:11] ----------- Basically, John Piper (and all who are reading this comment) fail to understand that AFTER the end of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" Satan is loosened from the Bottomless Pit and rules (thru his Anti-Christ) during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven". -------------- In other words... Daniel's Fourth Beast is also shown as the Revelation Beast and also shown as the Great Tribulation and also shown as the reign of the Anti-Christ and also shown as Satan's "Little Season". --------------- So the PEOPLE living in Daniel's Fourth Beast are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast(s) and the SAME PEOPLE living during the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and the SAME PEOPLE living during the rule of the Anti-Christ during Satan's "Little Season". --------------- And we can know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the people living on earth when the Lord Returns. In other words, they are the LAST SAINTS on earth before the Lord Returns. --------------- So... the great "falling away" occurs during the FOURTH Kingdom (not the church age) and the revealing of the Man of Sin and the Last Saints seeing Daniel's Abomination of Desolation all occur during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven". ---------------- This is easily proven by Matthew 25:1-13. The EVENTS of that prophecy (which end with the "final harvest" cannot be talking about the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" because of verses 25:8-10. At NO TIME during the church age (at no time after Pentecost) do the saints REFUSE to preach and send those seeking God off to some other (unnamed) people. ---------------- Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. ----------------- You can LEARN all the details about Daniel's "Abomination of Desolation" and the revealing of the "Man of Sin" by carefully reading the following: ------------------ www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8 -------------------
@@christos8418 ... The Bible is very clear that the Last Saints, part of the "ten virgins" go through the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" before the "wise virgins" are gathered into the Wedding and the "foolish virgins" are left behind [Mat 25:1-13] ------------ The Bible is also very clear that the "Final Harvest" of Saints occurs just before the END of the Revelation Beast (which is the same time period as the Great Tribulation). You can see this in Rev 18 and Rev 19 and Rev 11 and Daniel 7. There is a whole explanation of this in Chapter 1.3 on the link below (you should read the entire chapter) ---------------- www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-1 ----------------- In fact, the PURPOSE of the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1] is to bring Judgment on the "House of God". The Great Tribulation has TWO parts.... these are shown as the TWO "woes" and the TWO (5th and 6th) Trumpets and the TWO "heads" of the Revelation Beast (the 7th head and 8th head) and finally as the TWO Beasts [Rev 13 shows a Second Beast rising after the First Beast is fallen] ------------ You should read the entire Chapter 8 on the link below... because it explains (for the first time in history) the Truth about Daniel's "Abomination of Desolation" but be sure to read section 8.4 because it explains how the Great Tribulation was (first) Judgment against the "wheat/sheep" living at the end (the "wise virgins") and then (secondly) Judgment against the "tares/goats" living at the end who are called the "foolish virgins". ----------------- www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8 ---------------------- The period shown as the Great Tribulation is also shown as the Revelation Beast and also shown as Daniel's Fourth Beast and also shown as the RULE of the person commonly called the "Anti-Christ" and also as Satan's "Little Season". --------------------- The PEOPLE living during the Great Tribulation are called the "ten virgins" in Mat 25:1. The SAME PEOPLE are called ten "Kings" and ten "Horns" in Daniel 7 and The SAME PEOPLE are called ten "Kings" and ten Horns" in Rev 17 -------------------- But check this out!!! These verses show (and confirm what I mentioned in chapter 8.4) that the PURPOSE of the Great Tribulation (aka the Revelation Beast) is to bring Judgment on these people called the ten "virgins/kings/horns" ------------------------ Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. ------------------------- These ten "virgins/kings/horns" all "give their power and strength to the (Rev) Beast. That is showing the NATURE of the first part of the Great Tribulation or the NATURE of the First Revelation Beast (the Second Rev Beast does not include the saints) So that begs the question: WHY in the world would the Last Saints (wise virgins" ever "give their power and strength to the (first) Revelation Beast" ? And God answers that question here: ---------------------------------- Rev 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. ------------------------------------ So... during the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" no saint ever understood the NATURE of the END, because it was "sealed" to them [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]. And during the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" no saint ever understood the NATURE of the END, because that was not for them to know... they were to "seek and save" all the "lost sheep". ------------------------ Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. ------------------------- However God PROMISED the Last Saints "shall understand" the "sealed" prophecies about the end [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10 and Jesus PROMISED the Last Saints "shall see ALL THESE THINGS" (all Great Tribulation prophecies fulfilled) [Mat 24:15 and 24:33] -------------------------------- So the answer to your question is the Last Saints ABSOLUTELY go through the Great Tribulation... and the "Season and Time" after that (see Chapter 1) ----------------------------
@@christos8418 .... Child, you made a statement that (a) contradicts all the SCRIPTURE that I provided to you and (b) provide NO SCRIPTURE to support your statement. ----------- That is not how it works child. When you present a doctrine (especially when another has presented SCRIPTURE to contradict your doctrine) then you are OBLIGATED to offer SCRIPTURE to support your doctrine. Otherwise you have nothing. Just "feelings". ----------- Now here is the problem.... the passages that you THINK offer proof of a pre-Trib rapture are verses that you do not understand the CONTEXT. You cannot hope to understand the MEANING of any verse when you have not understood the context. --------------- So you have to provide at least ONE PASSAGE of Scripture that teaches the Saints are raptured BEFORE the beginning of the Great Tribulation... when Mat 25:1-13 teaches (in no uncertain terms) that the Saints "went forth" into the Tribulation. --------------- Besides Matthew 25 I presented verses from Rev 18 and Rev 19 and Rev 11 and Dan 7. So you saying "there's also overwhelming evidence for a pre trib rapture" means LESS than nothing because you are CONTRADICTING SCRIPTURE with "feelings". --------------- Just SHOW ME this "overwhelming evidence" (in Scripture) and I will show you that you simply did not understand the CONTEXT of that passage and, therefore, could not possibly understand the MEANING of the passage. -------------- Right now we have a situation where I have provided half-a-dozen SCRIPTURES proving the Saints go through the Great Tribulation. And you have only offered your "feelings". --------------- So... am I supposed to believe all the SCRIPTURES that contradict you or am I supposed to believe your "feelings" are more authoritative than Scripture? You see how ridiculous your position is child? -------------------- Listen... this is really very simple. When you believe the verses you LIKE and you reject (or intentionally ignore - as in this case) all the verses that contradict your doctrine... then you do not really believe the Gospel at all - instead, you really only believe your "feelings" and you ignore all Scriptures contradicting your "feelings". ------------------ Frankly, that is the "fruit" of an unsaved "tare" or a non-believer. Real "wheat/sheep/saints" do not (EVER) reject or intentionally ignore Scripture. The "fruit" of real saints is to find "harmony" will ALL RELATED SCRIPTURES. We would NEVER take passages we like and reject verses we don't like. ------------------ You are known by your "fruit" child. What will you do? Will you offer SCRIPTURES instead of your "feelings" Or will you just continue to intentionally ignore all the Scriptures that contradict you? You are known by your "fruit".... let's see if that "fruit" is good or bad. ---------------------
+Andreia Derrica --- That's NOT the true word of God if he is indeed omitting the Rapture of the Church.. It's all throughout the New Testament. I DON'T think calling God's word a lie is "healthy".. It's in almost every book, yet people deny it just as the Apostle Peter say they would.. "seeking after their own lusts" Get into the Bible for yourself.. rather than *depending* on men, especially men who are teaching falsely.
@@TheMistysFavs it's because i read the bible that i'm telling that this is the true word of God..... I don't see in the bible that there will be a secret rapture and that the church won't go through the tribulation.....
@@TheMistysFavs It is not that the Rapture is omitted, rather it is the timing of it. Look closely at the words of Jesus in Matthew 24:29-31 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days..."
I remember in 2010 or so, I was working at a hospital. Many left their jobs and stopped paying their bills because Harold Camping has decided the day. I tried to tell them he was wrong. No man would no the day. None listened.
Camping was such a heretic. Glad to hear though that Family radio finally removed his recordings from the radio line-up, fully repudiated his false teachings, and the CEO Tom Evans even publicly repented of Harold Camping's gross error.
This church was afraid that the day of Christ had already started, then Paul sent them a timeline to support the Rapture and calm their fears. Why would Paul assume they needed this refresher in the timing of the Rapture, if it was supposed to be post-trib and so several years away?
Yes, they thought the resurrection and rapture had happened and they had been "LEFT BEHIND". So he told them 2 things must happen 1st - the apostasy the man of sin be revealed.
according to what i read and understand being caught up (the rapture) happens before Daniels 70 th week (THE TRIBULATION )Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
Gary Shoen wrath and the great tribulation are two separate things. The great tribulation comes 1st (Daniel 70th week) then the wrath comes after when Christ gathers the elect (Mathew 24:29-30). At the end of the great tribulation which we will go through, Christ will gather everyone (1 coming and 1 event) then he will pour out his wrath upon those on the earth, that wrath we are not appointed for
@@middledice2 Yes this is true. I always was told in church we would not go through the Tribulation but God opened my eyes. I believe all these Christians waiting to be raptured because of the secret rapture lie will feel betrayed by God. 😥 I think this false teaching may be what causes the great falling away. I share the truth as much as I can. We have got to wake the church up! ❤
@@bevcombs9507 Amen! Same here. I could have torn my clothes in shame like they did in many stories of the BIble when I looked into it more about a decade ago. Praise the Lord!
Good to quote 1 Thess 4, but did you continue reading to 1 Thess 5? Chap 5 begins with a conjunction "But" - it's continuing what was written in chapter 4 and tells us the timing of the rapture - it is the same day as the day of the Lord: 1 Thess. 5 - "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.." - this is where the timing comes in - the day of the Lord! Same continuing thought. He would not have written this if the timing was different, and certainly would not have used "Day of the Lord". In fact, Paul does not write anything about a different timing, multiple returns, or about any "secret rapture" that some believe in
My Bible says he will appear in the clouds first , for his Bride ,those who love his appearing then second coming he will touch down on the my.of olives and split the mountain also he will bring his church the Bride with him !
You need to understand all the scriptures about eschatology to come to the right conclusion by yourself. There is only ONE RETURN by JESUS. Read 1Thes.4:14-18 and don't stop there but continue to chapter 5 verse 9. In the original letter there were no chapters and verses. The COMING of JESUS is on the same Day as the DAY of the LORD. Read 2Thes.1:7-10 slowly and attentively. The DAY of WRATH upon the wicked happens on the same DAY of GLORY for the Saints. I am not twisting any scriptures here. We may get to see the TRUTH when our eyes are opened.
First, what NG David wrote is correct. Read what he wrote, it is sound. Tribulation & God's wrath are totally different. It's simple to show scripturally: 1. Matt 24:29-30 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." 2. Rev 6:12: "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood" Rev 6:17: "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" Wrath begins CLEARLY after the sun and moon are darkened after the 6th seal... After the tribulation the sun and moon are darkened (6th seal) and the wrath of God begins (7th seal). With the 7th seal we have God's supernatural punishment of the world begin. All seals before are man-made tribulations (1 - antichrist, 2 - wars 3 - famine 4- death 5 - martys put to death, 6th seal sun and moon darkened. 7th seal wrath of god begins - 7 trumpets and 7 vials - all supernatural non man-made punishments)
+ Brenda Girard - Yep, my Bible says the same thing, and I can tell you where these Pastors mess up. 2 Thes. 2 - It speaks of the "Day of Christ" = Day of the Lord = Tribulation period..They take 2 Thes. 3 to mean that Antichrist comes before the Rapture, which is incorrect as they read verse 2 wrong.. then if they read down in the chapter further, no doubt you know, where it says, and He that letteth will let until He be taken out of the way - that's the Holy Spirit filled Church will be removed from the earth. TOO many don't read 2 Thes. 3 correctly and make the SAME error that Antichrist will come BEFORE the Rapture.. Check it out.. God bless sister! Eyes on the skies.. Jesus is coming SOON! PS -- John Piper has gone too far as far as "hooking up" with the Catholic church..I won't listen to him. I'm just passing by and looked at the comments. Pastor John Ricci is an excellent Pastor if you'd like a KJB truth preaching Pastor. As is Pastor Ralph "Yankee" Arnold.. Both have their church's channels on here.. The truth is so HARD to come by in these last days! Be blessed, be well! EDIT -------I looked them up: Grace Christian Fellowship channel for Pastor Ricci.. Bible Broadcast for Pastor "Yankee" - though both come up on You Tube's search if you put in their names..I TRULY believe you will be blessed by them! I TRULY am!
@@TheMistysFavs if you believe the day of the Lord and the day of Christ are not the same day (I believe they are the same day) do you also believe that the "Kingdom of God" and the "Kingdom of Heaven" are different as well?
@56:52 mins The main point here is life changing. We are to love the Lord our God with all our heart, mind, and strength. We are to delight ourselves in the Lord (Psalm 37). Our brains are hardwired to respond to rewards of pleasure, and when we seek God diligently, He rewards us. Christian Hedonism. It's the way that we train little puppies with treats to reinforce good behaviour.😁❤️
Just as the Jewish people were (and are) confused about the two comings of the Messiah - first to suffer and give His life for the sins of the world and second to reign as the Prince of peace, and both these comings are separated by a period of time - could it be that many Christians are also confused that the return of Jesus for His Bride will also be two comings? The first coming will be in the clouds to receive those who have received Him by grace through faith; and then the second coming will be on earth to rescue Israel and reign physically on earth-both comings also separated by a period of time. God works in patterns and He repeats Himself loudly through the Word and through life. It requires humility and discernment to understand Him. Those who are eager to prove that they are right and others are wrong are most likely wrong themselves. God help us all.
No! We are only ever saved through faith alone by God's grace, never by ethnic race. This belief that the ethnic people of the old testament will believe and be saved because they SEE Christ at his coming is so a-biblical it blows my mind. What did Christ say when they asked for a visible sign, so that they could then believe? No sign but the sign of Noah. And only those people of the old testament that have rejected Christ their whole lives, that are then lucky enough to be alive at that specific time - at the return of Christ will be saved because they are fortunate enough to be alive at that time to see him? What if one passes away the day before? Tough luck, you are of the right ethnic race, but apparently you did not get the chance to see Christ so you could then believe and be eternally saved. This heresy undermines the very heart of belief in Jesus Christ. Hear my people, we are saved by faith, and "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN" . This 'dual covenant' multiple dispensation/multiple ways to be saved theology did not gain any mainstream acceptance until the early-mid 20th century, and then, only in portions of American Protestanism after the promotion of the Scofield bible. It breaks my heart.
+Str20ng -- Everything you said here is in the Bible.. though Jesus' 2nd coming to the earth is just far more to it, but you have the right idea - to save the Jewish people and then Christ destroys Antichrist, there is SO much more.. But you are correct here according to my study of my Bible and what I hear from my own Pastors. we MUST do as Jesus said and BEWARE of false teachers -- like John Piper here in this very message.
@Psalm 27 I don't discuss theology with "Black Hebrew Israelites". I actually feel bad for you. "Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?" Think on that, then get yourself yo a bible-believing church. I'll say no more and will not be responding.
Those Christ said he counted worthy, would be considered the least of his followers, not well thought of.. In fact, because they would be causing plagues,, negative consequences would result from their activity, as prophesied at rev 11 :5 & 6, so they would be hated, just as he stated would be the case !! Our inability to identify the two witnesses is the biggest problem facing mankind desiring salvation As jesus said, those doing Good to his brothers , would be counted as if tgey had done it to him !! This world is the same world, governed by Gods adversary , that killed him and persecuted his early followers, so would it not be the same in this time frame ? The unpopular road, narrow and cramped is the one Christ would have us walk. We are told he would shepherd the nations with an iron rod ..which does not sound pleasant or kindly... What kind of sheperding iis that !!??.
The Church is the Israel of God from Genesis to Revelation. The two comings of Christ are firstly to take his Bride into heaven before the Great Tribulation and then at the end of the Great Tribulation He will return with His Bride to rule and to reign.
The danger in believing in a secret rapture is the awful confusion that it will be Jesus instead the Anti Christ who will perform miracles and create a one world religion while demanding to be adored and carry his mark! And many believers will be deceived.
@Huey Leadbetter I dont think it's silly at all. How many people actually read the bible? Christians who know the Word well definetly will, but few else, I think. "For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night...But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness." (1 Thess. 5: 2, 4-5) Paul tells here Christ's return is like a thief in the night for those who do not believe, but Christians ("bretheren") are the children of the day, we'll be wide awake for it!
Dorian Montez Good point! The Antichrist will try to deceive the elect. I believe there are many in the church that are not truly saved and will fall for this deception.
@@George-ur8ow @George, no - Paul Washer is not a "sinless perfection" preacher, not at all. There are many videos here in which he states otherwise. You can either search for his name or "Heartcry Missionary." I agree with the OP: Paul Washer and John Piper are two of the most biblical pastors I've ever come across. I highly recommend anything by them.
@@CT-if2tt in a brief 2 min search just ryping in "paul washer sinless perfection" he does seem to think this is achievable? From his twitter feed May 10 2019: "The evidence of true conversion is not sinless perfection or a level of sanctification that is reserved for only the most mature believers. The evidence of conversion is that respond to our sin with contrition and cling to Christ and His perfect work on Calvary as our only hope." But later, looks like he might have changed his mind, or made some modification? From twitter Jan 14 2020 "The evidence of salvation is not sinless perfection, but a new relationship with God’s commandments, a real inclination toward them, a genuine desire to do them, a growing practical application of them, and real contrition when our neglect of them becomes obvious (I John 2:3-5)." Perhaps he defines it differently? crystal clear that even the thought of foolishness is sin, and we all sin and come short of the glory of God. If you know his thoughts on this it would be appreciated. Being saved does not mean we'll never think a foolish thought again, of course
@@CT-if2tt Now I found this? "Sin will never be fully eradicated in our lives until our glorification in Heaven. The evidence of spiritual maturity is not sinless perfection, but a growing abhorrence of sin, a deeper contrition when we sin, and a more eager confession of sin.” - Paul Washer Which one is he going with?
@@George-ur8ow True Christians desire to obey God but they also know that they are forgiven when they sin. Jesus said 3 times in John 14 "If you love Me, you will obey my commands." True love for Christ will produce good works. Good works are not what earns salvation: good works are the result of salvation. That's the difference. Anyone who teaches that we must do good works to earn God's favor is saying the opposite of what the Bible says. We do good works as a result of the love we have for Christ. See Eph 2:8-10 and notice where works come in: after salvation, and not to earn it. All of this is what Piper and Washer both teach. I hope that helps!
+ OquendoHector333 - A saved believer is a SAVED believer. We cannot be "lukewarm". We're saved or we are not. You're mis-interpreting that verse, sorry. Jesus did it ALL on Calvary's cross. We cannot do a thing to add to or subtract from it.. Nothing.. Study more on the verse, free Bible study tools at Biblehub.com.
Mary Mclocke Are you contradicting the very words of Jesus? Jesus said “ I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth”. Revelation 3:15-16
The man of lawlessness is inside of us where Christ must demantle those ‘idols’ from the throne of our hearts.....Coming if Christ is within.....we are ascending into the heavenlies....please listen! Christ IN US is the hope of glory!! 🙏🏻♥️
The man of lawlessness and his descendents have been cursing the earth for the past 500 years...raping, stealing, murdering and destroying all of the indigenous lands and people.....the anichrist has been ruling for the past 500 years already. Jacobs trouble has already occurred to the indigenous people globally for 500 years, and now it is coming to an end. And the remaining indigenous will be saved out of what is soon to come. The vials of judgement.
"About the Day of the Lord and our being gathered to him, brothers, to execute the justifiable judgment of God," Apostle Paul said in his letters for his spiritual brothers, "don't let any spirit, prophecy, or letter that is like came from us saying "The Day of the Lord is already reigning!" Don't let anyone deceives you by any means for the Lord's Day will not come unless these two things occur first: "One, the people will reach the peak of their rebellion against the Truth that is being preached by the saints and.... "Two, the man of sin or the son of perdition is revealed first. "Don't you remember that I used to tell you these things? And you know what is the hindrance right now so that he will be only exposed in the appointed time." What will this wicked power is going to do? "He will oppose and exalt himself above all the holy ones, so that he sets himself up in God's heavenly temple proclaiming himself as the Eternal God or the Holy Father, the head of the church and the dispenser of truth." (Why is it that God will let the people to be ruled by this wicked ruler and also why will he let his saints to be captivated and oppressed?) Because of the people's rebellion, God will punish them and at the same time, to test the faithfulness of his saints even in times of tribulation so that they can rightfully join Christ in judging the world on his Day. Apostle Paul continued, "This secret power of lawlessness is already at work during these times but someone is hindering its exposé and he will remain secret until the one who is keeping him from being revealed is taken out of the way." Satan, the Dark Power is hiding this power of wickedness, his tool for deception, so that he can effectively deceive the world and can lead the people to follow his evil teachings, and to facilitate his reign over them and over the saints. But after his appointed day ends, the Lord will come down, seize him, bound him, and will throw him in prison. If that happened already... "Then the wicked one will be exposed whom the Lord will slain by the word of truth and destroy by the brightness of his Day." And that Day will be a thousand bright years, the end times of the world to face God's judgments, mercy, and salvation. But before that Day, Apostle Paul explained the Day of the Wicked One. He will perform counterfeit miracles using the power of Satan to deceive those who are perishing. They perish because they rejected the truth that should have saved them, but instead, they chose and delighted in wickedness. This is why God will send this powerful spirit of delusion over them so that they will continue to believe the lie and be condemned.
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I have a sincere question and hope you can provide a sincere answer. --------- Since the Bible teaches there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" why do you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? Why do you not preach what God has specifically NAMED in Scripture? --------- In Mat 22:2 God specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 13 (many verses) God NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 25:1-13 God NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and God specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. ----------- The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah. ----------- Since the Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is also shown as the 7-Headed Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and as Satan's "Little Season"... ------------ In other words, PEOPLE living in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living during the reign of the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season". -------------- And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living on earth when the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth. ------------- In Matthew 25:1-13 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called the ten "toes" and ten "kings" who are living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are called "ten Horns" and "ten Kings". In Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings". ------------- BTW... since Daniel 7:11-12 shows these PEOPLE are "given to the Burning Flame" and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is "cast into the Lake-of-Fire" we can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine that Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations cannot stand because NOBODY preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdom" continue to have their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12] AFTER the PEOPLE living in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire. Therefore, Daniel's Beasts/Kingdoms MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms. Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven". --------------- This is ignoring the fact that God PROMISED the truth about Daniel's prophecies would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to all the saints) until the "time-of-the-end", also shown as the "Season and Time" after the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations" on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are immediately proven false because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed". ------------- Given this "harmony of Scripture" and the reality that God has specifically NAMED four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth... my sincere question to you is WHY are you not currently preaching all of these Biblical Truths? --------------- www.5thKingdomofHeaven.com ----------------
@br1anm150k .. Child, you are so naive it is painful to see. If you say the Man-of-Sin has already been revealed... does this mean that you ALSO teach we are in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven"? Because Daniel's "Abomination" and the revealing of the Man of Sin are the SAME EVENTS. ----------------------- Do yourself a favor and READ the link below. I PROMISE it will provide you will RELATED SCRIPTURES that you never understood before. Pay great attention to chapter 8.4, It shows you something you were never shown before. ------------------------ www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8 ----------------------------- Please do not respond until AFTER you have read the link. That would be RUDE because it means you intentionally IGNORED all the RELATED SCRIPTURES provided in the link. ------------------------------ You don't want to be RUDE to the Bible... do you? --------------------------------
@br1anm150k ... are you KIDDING me child? You say it is of "little importance" to support what you are teaching... or to offer SCRIPTURES to refute what I presented to you? Do you REALLY think that is showing the "fruit" of a saved "wheat/sheep/saint" in the church... or does that sound more like the "fruit" of an unsaved "tare/goat" in the church? Remember - you are known by your "fruit" -------------------- I did not ask you about "thinking you are wise"... that is a STRAWMAN you build there child. I asked you to RESPOND to specific SCRIPTURES... and you chose to NOT do so. Real "wheat/sheep/saints" always use Scriptures (not "feelings" like you) ------------------- Secondly... you embarrass yourself with your ignorance child. You do not even KNOW who the "ten virgins" are in Scripture. Read Matthew 25:1-13 and you will LEARN that: (1) The Lord Jesus specifically NAMES the Great Tribulation as a "Kingdom of Heaven" (2) The PEOPLE living in the Great Tribulation are called the "ten virgins" (3) The saved people are called "wise virgins" the unsaved called "foolish virgins" ----------------------- So... by not even knowing WHAT you are talking about you actually PRETEND to be able to offer an "informed opinion"... that is just embarrassing child. ------------------------ Here is the link AGAIN child... it contains MANY Scriptures (over a DOZEN) which describe WHAT and WHEN the "Man of Sin" is revealed and WHY that is the SAME EVENT as "seeing" Daniel's "Abomination" ------------------------ BTW... please do not respond to me BEFORE you read the chapter (and pay attention to section 8.4... it will be "news" to you). ---------------------------- www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8 ------------------------------ If you decide to respond AGAIN while continuing to intentionally IGNORE all of the SCRIPTURES offered on the link, (make no mistake) You are intentionally IGNORING what JESUS said (not what I said). And to intentionally IGNORE Scriptures that you do not like... is the "fruit" of an unsaved "tare", not of a saved "wheat". It's REALLY as simple as that child. -------------------------------------
@br1anm150k ... I cannot imagine a more childish comment. If you THINK something I said was not part of the TRUE GOSPEL then you need only provide ONE VERSE that refutes any doctrine. Instead you post gibberish... it means NOTHING because it does not REFUTE anything I said, it only expresses your "feelings" and your "feelings" mean LESS than nothing child. ------------------------- Now put your big boy pants on and SEE if you can actually find ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts ANYTHING I have said: -------------------------- The Bible teaches there's four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before Jesus Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven", WHY would you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? WHY do you not preach what the Lord Jesus has specifically NAMED in Scripture? --------- In Mat 22:2 Jesus specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 13 (many verses) Jesus NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" In Mat 25:1-13 Jesus NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" Jesus specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew chapters 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. These are all important Biblical FACTS. ----------- The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah. ----------- Read more about these five (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven" in chapters 3 & 5, the difference in "Kingdom of Heaven" and "Kingdom of God" is chapter 6 ----------- www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-3 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-5 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-6 ----------- Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is also shown as the Revelation Beast, and as Daniel's Fourth Kingdom/Beast and as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and it's also shown as the period known as Satan's "Little Season". ------------ In other words, PEOPLE in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living in the reign of the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season". -------------- And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living on earth when Jesus Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth. ------------- In Matthew 25:1 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called the ten "toes" and ten "kings" living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are the "ten Horns" and "ten Kings". And in Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings". ------------- BTW: Daniel 7:11-12 shows these people are "given to the "Burning Flame"... and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is "cast into the Lake-of-Fire". We can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine that Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations cannot stand - because NO Gospel preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdoms" continue to have their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12] AFTER people in the (4th) "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire. -------------- Therefore, Daniel's Beasts MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms. Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth before Jesus Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven". --------------- Note: this ignores the fact that God PROMISED the truth of Daniel's prophecies would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to everyone) until the "time-of-the-end", also shown as the "Season and Time" AFTER the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations" on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are instantly proven false because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed". ------------- See the truth (for the first time ever) about "Babylon the Great" in chapter 7 See the truth (for the first time ever) on Daniel's "Abomination" in chapter 8 ------------- www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-7 www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8 ------------- Since Jesus specifically NAMED four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth, my sincere question to you is simple - WHY are you not currently preaching these "Kingdoms of Heaven" that Jesus has specifically NAMED? How can you NOT preach what Jesus has NAMED? ---------------
@Emsflea Would you mind elaborating what you mean by this? Are you saying AI will rise and deceive many, or that those who have made observations about AI will "rise and deceive many"? Please clarify. Thank you.
He was removed within their lifetime. He had to be removed before the man of lawlessness (probably nero as many church fathers had said) was revealed as Paul told them this had to happen before Christ came to relieve them of their persecution and repay with retribution against those persecuting them. Whoever it was The thesselonians knew who the restrainer presently was and soon to know who was being restrained. But, as any good student of scripture, one must follow the pronouns, follow the audience relevancy, follow the historical context, then MAYBE one could come to a solid conclusion on who this restrainer was. 2 Thess 1-2:12 (follow the pronouns, follow the audience relevancy, put yourself in that first century and imagine you are recieving this letter from Paul during immense persecution) Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, To the church of the Thessalonians (to who? The thesselonians) in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because >your faith< grows exceedingly (whos faith was growing? The thesselonians), and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith >in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure< (who’s enduring this persecution/tribulation? The thesselonians) , which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which *you* also suffer; since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation *those* who trouble *you* (who was being troubled? The thesselonians. Who was troubling them? We learn in earlier letter it was the apostate Jews [1 thess 2:14-16] ), and to give you who are troubled rest with us (whos trouble is given rest? The thesselonians trouble) >> *when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels* our< gathering together to Him (which coming? Is Paul talking about an entirely different just sentences later without hinting it to the thesselonians? No exegetical basis to say so) , we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come (Paul spoke to them of this day before. It was obvious to them that this day didn’t bring the end of the world but it wasn’t so obvious for them to say whether or not it had come yet. So Paul reclarifies to them here). Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed (There is a long history of Christian tradition identifying the man of sin and son of perdition with Nero), the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And >now you know what is restraining< (somethings restraining at the time Paul wrote this. something is presently (ca. A.D. 52) ‘restraining’ the Man of Lawlessness: ‘you know what is restraining [katechon; present participle], that he may be revealed in his own time’ (2:6). This strongly suggests the preterist understanding of the whole passage. The Thessalonians themselves know what is presently restraining the Man of Lawlessness [Nero was not yet ‘manifested;’ his true character was not discovered; he had not yet succeeded to the Empire. Claudius, his step-father, lived, and stood in the way of the son of Agrippina.]; in fact the Man of Lawlessness is alive and waiting to be ‘revealed.’ This implies that for the time-being Christians can expect some protection from the Roman government. The Roman laws regarding religio licita are currently in Christianity’s favor, while considered a sect of Judaism and before the malevolent Nero ascends the throne.”) , that >>>he may be revealed in his own timethenthey< did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved (is the “they” become some different “they” than those who God would pay retribution for persecuting the thesselonians? Does Paul immediately change subject without hinting to the thesselonians of this change?). And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Paul did not write this letter to the thesselonians with chapter a verse divisions. It was one complete letter written to them. is Paul promising them to be relieved from this persecution at the day of the Lord when He takes vengeance against their persecutors in 2,000+ years? Or is Paul writing a letter to them that isn’t even for them and the “you” isn’t actually to them (as he says it’s to them in 1:1) + the “them”, who are the persecutors God would pay retribution for at Christ’s coming, aren’t even their persecutors (as he says in 1:4-7). Is Paul writing really writing a letter to them, while they are going through massive persecution, to promise retribution for this persecution to a people 2,000+ years down the road? Are those thesselonians still alive and awaiting this relief and retribution? Preterism is the only eschatology that does justice to scripture and follows a consistent hermeneutic/exegesis throughout scripture. www.preteristcentral.com/Exposition%20of%20II%20Thessalonians%201%20&%202.html
That passage in 2 Thessalonians 2 refers to the end of government. For Jesus must reign until he has defeated all of his enemies. All Power, Dominion, and Authority. Then the last enemy to be destroyed is death itself. Then he will return the kingdom back to the Father that God may be All in All.
@@therealjakedean3317 Preterism is a lie. You don't know that asteroids will hit the Earth? Revelation 8-9 One of them is responsible for opening the "bottomless pit" which is where many are thrown in. The end of the "law" creates the end of humanity and civility. The lawless ones will be revealed. The offspring/children/descendants of destruction.
Finally a big name that still preaches truth. God keep you grounded in truth Mr Piper as we those go astray around you. One thing though the temple will be the temple in Jerusalem. It’s not generic or figurative. Many Old Testament passages concerning this issue are pretty clear it will be where Jesus takes up his residence during his physical milleniel reign on earth. It will happen soon.
I agree I have been telling alot of people that and that there is not much time left they should repent and give God the glory. The 7 year peace agreement already happened or were half way through it now.
@@nicholasjones5652 The last 7 years will commence with a Globally celebrated peace deal between Israel and her enemies. This will allow the 3rd temple to be built. Mark McMillion does an excellent overview of Daniels end time prophecy here... ruclips.net/video/iPRDpUvrldo/видео.html
@@bigbruno56 he's not confused...we have all heard arguments using scripture that support both a tribulation and pretrib rapture. He is mentally and spiritually prepared for either outcome. Understand? God bless you...
bigbruno56 I don’t know either. There is no verse that specifically says that we will be raptured secretly or even says plainly that there is a rapture before the tribulation. If you have found such verse, please give it to me. Even John MacArthur has admitted that you have to read in between the lines to get to the pre trib conclusion. This is not a primary doctrine to separate over unless a person is denying that these events are future and that Christ is not going to return. Now that’s a problem!
@@whitelily227 Thank you that was well said. Also we should be prepared for either scenario. A pre-trib rapture would be our preferred scenario, but we should be ready for either case is all I was trying to say.
bigbruno56 no confusion here - I’m just pointing out that my heart is ready for anything - if there is no rapture before the tribulation I’m ready to depend on God for strength to endure the tribulation - there are too many good arguments these days supporting all these discussions and I don’t have months of time to devote to this subject right now: so rather worry I decided to just enjoy the day and work on other subjects such as mastering hunger, self-denial, sleep and sexual desire which takes up a lot time- but also study Michael Brown, Perry Stone, Erwin Baxter, and Chuck Misslers 2 hour study on this rapture and yes John McArthur has great views as well - it a big subject with many verses and arguing points one needs to really get to know to form an comprehensive opinion and the Matthew 24 discussion can present some clarity challenges such as when will the trumpet be blown and other points: so finally, it doesn’t matter to me what happens or if I have a well developed opinion just a basic grasp because all that matters is that my heart loves Jesus right now and that I’m becoming more like Him throughout the day-it is the same with the eternal security discussion - eyes to the sky, he’s up there
Righteousness is when people turn away from sin and live for righteousness.So the change in people is not in anything but God and in Jesus Christ and in the Holy Spirit.
Dear pastor John, the history of Roman Emperor Claudius, Nero and his mother who plotted to kill Claudius so that Nero could become Emperor etc.... all these will make clear the questions raised in your sermon. God bless and shalom!
Jesus is us, humanity, embodied as a single human. Christ is the individual human. The sacrifice we each make individually, is the true Christian sacrifice. Are you worthy or not? The choice is solely yours to makes. The body is the church, the mind is the temple. Worship it.
The word "anti" in antichrist does not mean someone who is going to be openly anti (against) Christ. That word "anti" in the original Bible language can actually mean "IN PLACE OF". So could the bible antichrist be someone who has actually put himself "in place of" Christ? Well, we have further Bible evidence to support this. In 1 John 2:18-19 it says that there were "many antichrists", who "WENT OUT FROM THE CHURCH". In other words, John is pointing to the fact that those "antichrists" were WITHIN THE CHURCH!! Not only that, but Paul in 2 Thess. 2:3-4 calls the man of sin the "son of perdition". Now there is only one other place in the Bible where the name "son of perdition" is used, and that is in John 17:12 talking about JUDAS! And what was Judas? A professing follower of Christ Jesus. Someone who deceived from WITHIN the "church". "The leader of the Catholic church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ (and is accepted as such by believers). The Pope is considered the man on earth who TAKES THE PLACE of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity." (John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope, p. 3, 1994). "ANTI" - Christ = "IN PLACE OF" Christ!
Everything left behind is no longer the focus.But what is that we press on forward.For in the Blood of Jesus Christ is forgiveness.To have come to follow Jesus Christ and been delivered by the blood and not live for sin but live for righteousness.
My comment is more like a book. I read DESIRING GOD and thought that Piper did a good job making Jonathan Edwards understandable to 21st century Americans, but otherwise I was not greatly affected. Later I learned that Piper wrote a tract "When I Don't Desire God" for people like me. That tract seemed to be saying, "If you don't desire God, go into a room with a Bible and bread and water, and read the Bible till you desire God." Piper does teach that God wishes to produce joy out suffering. God has isolated me more in the past few months than ever before. In this video Piper talks about intense persecution, another form of suffering. I still like my pleasures: sports, music, gardening -- which are gifts from God. But Piper is worth listening to.
I personally don’t understand the comment section where debate over when Christ coming happens. More specifically, because the point of John Piper sermon is about loving the truth in such a way that you will not be idle in your worship and day-to-day walk, and so that you won’t be deceived. All I know about the second coming is that it’s coming. And like Paul washer says, everyone’s eschatology will be cleared up on the day it happens. Whether it’s pre-or post or any other category, it’s going to happen. Those in Christ be encouraged and rest assured that are rest is coming. Those not in Christ, please turn from your sin, and believe the most beautiful message of the gospel where you can be forgiven, made new and inherit eternity.
Amen!!!
John Piper, the Holy Spirit led me to you. I have learned so much from you. You are a very anointed man of God and used mightily by God. I thank God for your ministry and may He continue to bless you, your family and your ministry.
Thank the Lord Pastor John posted this now. With the current health crises, wolves are out in droves howling "the end is upon us!". Accompanying their message is of course, an imminent rapture that is only seconds away. This sermon says "nope, not right now!" to both. God bless.
I have a sincere question and hope you can provide a sincere answer.
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Since the Bible teaches there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth
before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" why do
you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? Why do you not preach what God has specifically NAMED in Scripture?
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In Mat 22:2 God specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 13 (many verses) God NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 25:1-13 God NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and
God specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and
7 and 8 and 19.
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The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the
(1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah.
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Since the Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is
also shown as the 7-Headed Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and
as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and as
Satan's "Little Season"...
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In other words, PEOPLE living in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE
living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living during the reign of
the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season".
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And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living
on earth when the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth.
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In Matthew 25:1-13 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called the
ten "toes" and ten "kings" who are living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are called "ten Horns" and "ten Kings".
In Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings".
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BTW... since Daniel 7:11-12 shows these PEOPLE are "given to the Burning Flame"
and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is
"cast into the Lake-of-Fire" we can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine that
Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations cannot stand
because NOBODY preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdom" continue to have
their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12] AFTER the PEOPLE
living in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire. Therefore,
Daniel's Beasts/Kingdoms MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms.
Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven"
on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".
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This is ignoring the fact that God PROMISED the truth about Daniel's prophecies
would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to all the saints) until the "time-of-the-end",
also shown as the "Season and Time" after the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has
been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations"
on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are immediately proven false
because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed".
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Given this "harmony of Scripture" and the reality that God has specifically NAMED
four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth... my sincere question to you is WHY are you not currently preaching all of these Biblical Truths?
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I strongly believe Richard Dawkins is the man of lawlessness/ son of perdition, for he exalts himself above every god and religion. He fell away and rebelled when at 15 he turned away from following Christ. He promotes all delusions such as evolution and the book The God Delusion and most recently Outgrowing God. So the end is so close and Christ Jesus can return at any time. The rain is about to fall so to speak as in times of Noah.
@@wisevirgin3405 that's true
@@wisevirgin3405 are you saying all end time theories rn are false because the stuff about the seals in revelations is happening now some people even say we're in the sixth seal.
@@fiji9905 ... I am saying all end-time theories are false because the BIBLE
promises the Truth would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" to all Saints
until the Last Saints "shall understand" [Dan 12:8-10]. Jesus PROMISED
the Last Saints "shall see ALL THESE THINGS", meaning the fulfillment
of all Great Tribulation (Revelation Beast) prophecies [Mat 24:15, 24:33]
And the Bible is clear the "Man of Sin" is only "revealed" to the Saints
living AFTER the Holy Spirit has been "taken out of the way" [2Thess 2:3-9]
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In other words any "interpretation" on the fulfillment of end-time events
IS PROVEN WRONG because it was developed when the Bible PROMISED
it was "closed-up" and "sealed".
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www.5thKingdomofHeaven.com
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Amen.
Blessed is the Name of the LORD.
Bless the Saints and all who seek Him.
How to seek the lord?
@@bndfglvllddjdkfkfkf6097 Study the bible and pray
Seek Him with all of your heart.
Call upon His Name
Romans 10:9-10
Hey Mel! Its me, Viking 🦁
@@bndfglvllddjdkfkfkf6097 read the gospel, all 4 books. In there is the book of John 3:3-7 where Jesus spoke that u must be born again. Born of the water & Spirit of God is needed to enter into his kingdom. In John 3:3-7, this is a supernatural birth from above. And it was also fulfilled in Acts 2:38-39. On the day of Pentecost is when the church was born. Remember, the church is not a building. After the gospel, read the book of Acts. We must obey the gospel, Matthew. Mark. Luke & John. There are dire consequences if we don't obey the gospel, & do not know God & who will be punished w everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord. (2nd Thessalonians 1:7-9). We must all get our house in order. This is a crisis we are in w/ whatever is going on. May the Lord fill you w the Holy Ghost. Acts 1:8 says, you will receive power once the Holy Ghost has come upon you. Blessings from Texas
@@elijahjacob8551 Hey viking its me Mellow Mike
Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” 2 Tim 2:19 - God have mercy, and deliver us from the evil one, that we might stand!
I love this message. From my long experience, almost all teachers teach a certain passage with a certain eschatology in mind and they try to make the passage fit into that view. Here, Piper teaches the text simply for what it says without trying to force-fit it into any particular point of view.
I praise God for having the Holy Spirit in me guide me to your sermon tonight.
Pastor John Piper is a very inspiring Pastor. Pastors like him have inspired me to start my own Ministry. I would love everyone’s support.
You need God's approval.God has a plan,His plan,not yours.You need to fing His plan,not your fire burning desire. Be sure not to engage in a ministry God never called you to do. I'm just saying that because there was a pastor Kenneth Hagin,baptised in the Holy Spirit with a great ministry and after 12-16 years(can't remember) the Lord told him He never called him to that ministry,it was his desire,but not God's perfect plan for his life.Obviously he was shocked,but he explained that God has a plan and if we don't seek for His approval or His will,then we end up doing something agains God's plan.
@@Premariss97
Interesting thoughts, we should always seek the lords will. The problem is that you are assuming God will not will someone to start a ministry.
A ministry is an organisation dedicated to the spread of the gospel. You will be hard pressed to make a case that God really told that man anything since he got it wrong the first time (according to himself)
I would suggest rather it was his sinful self that told him never to have started the ministry. Can you imagine people who would not have been saved if he never started a ministry to spread the gospel for 12 years+ ?
Read the great commision carefully we are all ministers of the gospel.
@New_Life_Ministry
May God be with you and the holy spirit comfort you brother !
@@gavin_hill I agree with you, John said that we cannot receive even 1 thing except it was granted to us by heaven. So with that said, God must've put it on his heart to start a ministry! Atleast that's how I take that!
@@gavin_hill I know that,I thought about all the people who got saved and discovered their own plan during his ministry as well. Yes,we are all called to spread the gospel. But God has a specific plan and will for each one of us. I know very well from my fellowship that there wes a couple really enthusiastic to go and pioneer a church.The pastor,as I remember,prayed for them and had a prophecy that it was not God's will and not God's plan.But they refused to believe that and went to pioneer.After months or even one year they realised they were not called for that specific ministry,and even though they had the will and disipline,they realized it was all their selfish desire(for a good purpose).
Now,I didn't tell you not to do it,just that you should always seek for God's will for your life,especially when it comes to starting your own ministry.
Now,this pastor Kenneth(who is well known as one of the most respected men of God of the 20th century) began everything by his own will,and obviously God used him and his ministry so save other souls.But it was only when he entered into the presence of God,and Jesus told him from now you will enter into the first phase of the ministry I have for you.
This has truly blessed my quarantined Sunday...Thank you!
"GOD IS MOST GLORIFIED IN YOU WHEN YOU ARE MOST SATISFIED IN HIM" AMEN! ❤
And that is worth the SHOUT OUT!
so true !!! so true
He is our all ❤
@@steevrush jkjhh
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I was a pretrib all my life but a few years ago, I decided to go look for this myself in the Bible and to my absolute bewilderment I couldn’t find it to sustain itself under scrutiny. So far my understanding is that Christ’s second coming happens at the opening of the 6th seal and before the opening of the 7th.
I think thats a midtrib approach.
Whatever it is I love the Lord and His truth. If its a pretrib, a midtrib or posttrib the Lord will sustain and carry us to the end.
Same discovery upon self study. At the sixth seal, simultaneous with the 7th trumpet blowing, which is Jesus returning, is the resurrection of the dead in Christ, and rapture of the still living (that's the mystery of God in the verse below - the New Covenant Church, indwelled with His Spirit). This is the last day and end of the world (it's the end of time, so there is no 1000 years of an old earth millennial kingdom, the kingdom is now (Matt 12:28) - Amillennial). Next is the wrath of God being instantly poured out on earth, followed by the resurrection of the rest of the dead (Rev 20:5), and the judgment of all the dead, just and unjust, either from God's one book of life He wrote, or each individual's "book" they lived without God (Rev 20:12), and the beginning of the eternal Kingdom that has come finally literally.
As in the days of Noah and Lot, God rescues His people and destroys the wicked on the very same day. (Luke 17:27, 29)
Revelation 10:6-7 KJV
And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that *_there should be time no longer:_*
[7] But *_in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished,_* as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Revelation 1:9 KJV
I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, *_and in the kingdom_* and patience *_of Jesus Christ,_* was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
IMHO, of course. God bless you!
@@PuppetryInMotion Thank you so much for your reply brother. I have never thought that the seven seals and the seven trumpets happened simultaneously though. Could you please elaborate a bit more? I have recently come to understand - based on studies and studying - that the seven bowls and the 7 trumpets sound very much alike and could be one and the same as well. I always thought of all this happening in quick succession but not at the same time (which makes it all sound a thousand times more terrifying than I could possibly imagine).
@@katyekel Revelation not my strong point. I've come to believe it's been unfolding since written (John wrote - these things must shortly come to pass). For sure, He's coming on the last day of the world for His Church (John 6:39-40,44,54), and the tares are taken away first, while the wheat is left shining in the Kingdom like the sun. God bless!
Matthew 13:41-43 KJV
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and *_they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,_* and them which do iniquity;
[42] *_And shall cast them into a furnace of fire:_* there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
[43] *_Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father._* Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
2 Thes. 2 teaches that the second coming and the rapture occur before the man of lawlessness is revealed. The Wrath of God and the Great Tribulation are not the same thing though I believe that both occur within Daniel’s 70th week. People use verses that say that believers will not suffer God’s wrath to prove that believers will not suffer tribulation. Matthew 24 parallels the first 6 seals in Revelation 6 in content and in order but not always the same level of detail.
Matthew 24:7-8 “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.” This is the same as the first 4 seals in Revelation 6:1-8.
Matthew 24:9 says “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.” This closely reflects the fifth seal in Revelation 6:9. Matthew 24:29 says “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.” This is same as the 6th seal in Revelation 6:12-13. Joel says that this event occurs before the Day of the Lord. Joel 2:31 “The sun shall be turned into darkness,And the moon into blood,Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.”
@katyekel @KeepTheSayings I also believed in a preTrib rapture, and like you, I studied and couldn't find a pre-trib rapture in the Bible...or in Christian history. In fact, hardly anyone in all of Christian history before 1830 believed in a pre-trib rapture. Darby and Schofield made this teaching popular in the 1830s and this became the predominant belief in America around 100 years ago. Prior to 1830, almost every Christian believed in what you now believe (called Historical Premillenialism...the rapture is after the great tribulation, when Jesus returns), or believed in what is called amillenienism. There are other beliefs too but they were never widely held.
Why will they be deceived? They refuse to LOVE the TRUTH. Eschatology details and charts and timelines aside, LOVE THE TRUTH. I appreciate that this sermon gets to the heart of why eschatology matters. Come, Lord Jesus. Amen! 🖤
Thanks for the message! My heart swells in joy over the years over the truth and sound doctrine. May the Lord grant “a love for the truth” in our churches.
How sad that John Piper does not realize the "revealing" of the Man of Sin
is the SAME EVENT as seeing the "Abomination of Desolation" [Mat 24:15].
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John Piper does not realize WHEN these things occur. He assumes the
revealing of the Man of Sin (and seeing Daniel's Abomination) occur at the
END of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 13:11,24,31,33,44,47,52]
But that is a mistake.
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The revealing of the Man of Sin and the saints seeing Daniel's Abomination
and the rule of the Anti-Christ during the Great Tribulation of Satan's "Little Season"
all occur AFTER the end of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" and during the
(4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" (also shown as Daniels 4th Beast)
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Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins,
which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
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John Piper knows the revealing of the Man of Sin (and return of the Lord)
occurs at the END of the age... but what he does not realize is that it occurs
at the END of the FOURTH "Kingdom of Heaven" and not the THIRD Kingdom.
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The Bible is very clear that there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven"
on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom"...
John Piper knows the Man of Sin is revealed at the END of the age, but
he ASSUMES it is the end of the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" instead
of [Mat 25:1] the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".
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If John Piper knew more he would realize the man called the "Little Horn"
in Daniel's FOURTH Beast is the same as the Man of Sin in 2nd Thess.
And this "Anti-Christ", who does not rise until the FOURTH Beast [Dan 7:8]
ruling over the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1 above] is the same
event as the Abomination of Desolation that is "placed" or "set-up" during
Daniel's Fourth Beast. [Dan 11:31 and 12:11]
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Basically, John Piper (and all who are reading this comment) fail to
understand that AFTER the end of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
Satan is loosened from the Bottomless Pit and rules (thru his Anti-Christ)
during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".
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In other words... Daniel's Fourth Beast is also shown as the Revelation Beast
and also shown as the Great Tribulation and also shown as the reign of the
Anti-Christ and also shown as Satan's "Little Season".
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So the PEOPLE living in Daniel's Fourth Beast are the SAME PEOPLE living
during the Revelation Beast(s) and the SAME PEOPLE living during the
Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and the SAME PEOPLE living
during the rule of the Anti-Christ during Satan's "Little Season".
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And we can know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are
the people living on earth when the Lord Returns. In other words,
they are the LAST SAINTS on earth before the Lord Returns.
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So... the great "falling away" occurs during the FOURTH Kingdom
(not the church age) and the revealing of the Man of Sin and the
Last Saints seeing Daniel's Abomination of Desolation all occur
during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".
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This is easily proven by Matthew 25:1-13.
The EVENTS of that prophecy (which end with the "final harvest"
cannot be talking about the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
because of verses 25:8-10. At NO TIME during the church age
(at no time after Pentecost) do the saints REFUSE to preach and
send those seeking God off to some other (unnamed) people.
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Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil;
for our lamps are gone out. 9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so;
lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell,
and buy for yourselves. 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came;
and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
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You can LEARN all the details about Daniel's "Abomination of Desolation"
and the revealing of the "Man of Sin" by carefully reading the following:
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www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8
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@@wisevirgin3405 The man of sin is revealed 3 1/2 years into the 70th week of Daniel when he takes the seat of God in the Temple. Then the Great Tribulation, which is cut short. Then the rapture then the wrath of God is poured out through the 7 trumpets and 7 vials. Then Satan is locked up for a thousand years as Jesus Christ reigns on the earth. THEN, Satan is released and he gathers the nations to attack and surround Jerusalem but Jesus destroys them with fire.
@@garyedwards8245 ... Child, you do not have a CLUE what you are talking about.
First Satan was "bound" at the Cross. Jesus and the saints rule throughout
the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" (church age). The Apostles and the
early church (with Augustine) and most of the Reformers understood that the
Bible teaches an A-Millennial binding of Satan (during the church age). The
notions that you are teaching are NEW HERESIES not know to the early church.
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Now... how can I say that? Because the early church believed in the imminent
Return of Christ. They did not believe it would be 2000 years away.
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BTW Child... the 3.5 days are also show as 3.5 years and 3.5 "times" and
3.5 "watches of the night". So if you want to pretend that you know something
about the period known as Daniel's Fourth Beast and/or the Revelation Beast
and/or the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1] and/or the reign
of the Anti-Christ (aka "Little Horn") during Satan's "Little Season" then you
MUST be able to "harmonize" ALL RELATED SCRIPTURE.
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But you do not know ANY of this... why is that child?
The Bible PROMISED the Last Saints "shall understand" the "sealed" mysteries
of Daniel's prophecies [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10] and the Lord PROMISED that the
Last Saints "shall see ALL of these things" [Mat 24:15 and 24:33], meaning ALL
of the Great Tribulation prophecies being fulfilled.
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Child... do yourself a favor and LEARN something about these things before
you pretend to KNOW something. Take a deep breath and READ the info on
the link below... and then see if you can find ONE VERSE in the Bible that
contradicts anything on that site. If you are not willing to TEST your false
doctrines against any/all other doctrine then you are showing the "fruit"
of an unsaved "tare" instead of a saved "wheat/sheep/saint". It is really
as simple as that child... you are known by your "fruit". And showing
ignorance and the REFUSAL to test your doctrine is not good "fruit".
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www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8
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@@wisevirgin3405 Just as I thought, you are a false prophet.
@@garyedwards8245 Philetus & Alexander come to mind. Just the latest online wiseway claiming his interpretation is the only correct one, and the rest of the world is wrong...and he's here to save us from the error of our ways (LOL)
For those that are enduring thinking I can't handle much more so soon we will be saying I can't believe it all went so fast. We will say I can't believe I was so worried. A vapor. Caught in a vapor soon to be blown away by the next breeze. Worried for a short moment. Endured for a short while. For he suffered for us first, and don't ever forget that you're NOT ALONE!!!!
Psalm 23:4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Psalm 27:1 The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?
Deuteronomy 31:6 Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the Lord thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.
Hebrews 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
Jeremiah Kirby thank you, God bless you. How long Lord... So homesick. 🙏
Jeremiah Kirby
In Genesis, the name Abel means “vapor, or vanity”.
This is my “go to” thought process during difficult times. Like how spring is always suddenly upon us and overnight the trees are green after a long barren winter, and the sun makes you forget what the cold even felt like.
Nothing touches our heart ♥️ like the word of God.
This guy is a heretical devil go watch this video I just uploaded yesterday! I draw distinctions between the second coming and the pre-trib rapture. They are clearly two separate distinct events ! Paul the Apostle was given the pre-trib Rapture as a mystery. It's the helmet of salvation. This heretic is robbing you of your helmet of salvation watch my video and learn how to rightly divide your Bible as commanded by Paul in (2nd Timothy 2:15) so you will not be deceived by this devil
ruclips.net/video/D7iklTDqFhY/видео.html
Best pastor in my opinion
Jeff Delejewski
Good thing we all have one.
@@mr.c2485 I second his opinion!
I believe he's biblically sound on 90% of what he says - about as good as anyone out there. The items I disagree on are secondary, non- salvational issues, which I or the Pastor could be right or wrong about, and it would not make much of a difference. Point is, were all unlikely to agree with any pastor 100% of the time - if you find one who is at 90% or even 80%, you know you've got one you should listen to
Indeed no preacher is 100% but he can get close. A very inspiring preacher.
Him and along with Paul Washer in my opinion. But Jesus is the best 😃.
Thanks teacher for your words. I just found you today. God bless you great spiritual message
"Grace to all who love our Lord Jesus Christ with an undying love." ~ Ephesians 6:24
I have a sincere question and hope you can provide a sincere answer.
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Since the Bible teaches there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth
before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" why do
you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? Why do you not preach what God has specifically NAMED in Scripture?
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In Mat 22:2 God specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 13 (many verses) God NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 25:1-13 God NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and
God specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and
7 and 8 and 19.
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The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the
(1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah.
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Since the Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is
also shown as the 7-Headed Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and
as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and as
Satan's "Little Season"...
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In other words, PEOPLE living in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE
living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living during the reign of
the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season".
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And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living
on earth when the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth.
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In Matthew 25:1-13 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called the
ten "toes" and ten "kings" who are living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are called "ten Horns" and "ten Kings".
In Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings".
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BTW... since Daniel 7:11-12 shows these PEOPLE are "given to the Burning Flame"
and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is
"cast into the Lake-of-Fire" we can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine that
Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations cannot stand
because NOBODY preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdom" continue to have
their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12] AFTER the PEOPLE
living in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire. Therefore,
Daniel's Beasts/Kingdoms MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms.
Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven"
on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".
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This is ignoring the fact that God PROMISED the truth about Daniel's prophecies
would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to all the saints) until the "time-of-the-end",
also shown as the "Season and Time" after the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has
been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations"
on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are immediately proven false
because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed".
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Given this "harmony of Scripture" and the reality that God has specifically NAMED
four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth... my sincere question to you is WHY are you not currently preaching all of these Biblical Truths?
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@@wisevirgin3405 -- There are no four Kingdoms of Heaven. The Kingdom of Heaven (also known as the Kingdom of God) began with Christ's First Advent, and has been growing ever since, and at Christ's Second Advent the Kingdom will be completed.
@@gregb6469 .... Child, you have now expressed your "opinion".
Let's see how your "opinion" compares to what the BIBLE says.
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First, there is a HUGE difference between the (Biblical) definition of the
five (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven" and the one (1) Kingdom of God. Basically,
the first four "Kingdoms of Heaven" are temporal "Kingdoms" in God's plan
of salvation - while the (5th) "Kingdom of Heaven" represents all of the saved
people from the first four temporal Kingdoms. Here is what the BIBLE says:
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In Matthew 22:2 the BIBLE specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish (wait of it....)
"Kingdom of Heaven". So what should we believe? Should we believe Greg is
correct and Jesus was just LYING when He specifically NAMED the second
"Kingdom of Heaven" on earth? (see how you embarrass yourself child?)
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In Matthew 12 (in several verses) the Lord JESUS specifically NAMES
the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" (the church). Now should we think
that Jesus was telling a fairy tale (or LYING)? Should we believe Greg or Jesus?
(I hope you see how much you are embarrassing yourself child)
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In Matthew 25:1 the Lord Jesus specifically NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation
(wait for it....) "Kingdom of Heaven" on earth. Should we believe Jesus was LYING
when He specifically NAMED this "Kingdom"? How should we believe, Greg, who
teaches there is ONE "Kingdom of Heaven" (and it's the same as the Kingdom of God)
or should we believe the Lord Jesus Christ?
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And the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" is specifically NAMED by Jesus in
Matthew chapters 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. Assuming Jesus was not LYING when
He specifically NAMED this (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" does this PROVE
beyond any doubt that Greg is completely "clueless" and not qualified or capable
of offering an "informed opinion" on this subject? Yes this proves Greg a fool.
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You can actually READ what the Bible says about the five "Kingdoms of Heaven
on earth in chapters 3 and 5 (linked below) and you can LEARN the difference
between the (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth and the (1) "Kingdom of God"
in chapter 6 (also linked below). Child, whenever you talk about subjects that
you cannot even DEFINE... then you only embarrass yourself and look the fool.
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www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-3
www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-5
www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-6
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Here is your PROBLEM child. Your personal "opinion" contradicts what JESUS SAID.
So you must now argue that Jesus was telling fairy tales or that He was LYING in order
to support your opinion on what He specifically NAMED in Scripture. How sad for you.
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Next time you want to "offer an opinion" on what the BIBLE teaches you may want to
actually STUDY what the Bible says instead of just expressing your personal "feelings"
or repeating what someone TOLD you. Because you embarrassed yourself today child.
(Unless you will actually argue that Jesus was LYING when He NAMED these "Kingdoms"
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@@gregb6469 .... sorry typo... the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" is specifically NAMED
(several different times) in Matthew 13 (not Mat 12)
@@wisevirgin3405 -- In the parallel passages in Mark and Luke Jesus uses the term Kingdom of God, which means that the terms Kingdom of Heaven and Kingdom of God are synonymous.
You are seeing distinctions which do not exist. God has only one Kingdom, to which all of His people belong. This Kingdom has two phases, the present one, during which it is growing, and the future one, during which it will be complete.
I’m so glad we have John Piper at this time on earth .
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As a faithful Ambassador for Father YAHweh's Resurrected Son YAHwehShua will never set foot on this earth again 2. Writing in about 110 AD, Josephus recorded, in great detail, Jewish history, 1st century Judaism, the ministry of YAHshua.
3. In a book called, "Wars of the Jews", Josephus describes the destruction of Jerusalem as YAHshua prophesied in Matthew 24.
4. Initially most people who believe in the Rapture have such a poor knowledge of the bible, the first time they learn this historical fact, is when they read it here on our Rapture Refuted website! At first they suffer from denial. Then they are confused when they are unable to deny this historical record. Finally they invent the double prophecy argument, namely that Mt 24 prophesies 70 AD and the second coming. This of course is pure fantasy because none of the signs of Matthew 24 are of the second coming.The Rapture was over in 66 A.D.
Can you explain more
Then you must be a monster. Piper is evil.
Me too
Never having heard this Pastor before, I must say this was quite a wonderful introduction!
John Piper is one of my few theological mentors. I am rapt with his theological depth and precision.
This guy is a heretical devil go watch this video I just uploaded yesterday! I draw distinctions between the second coming and the pre-trib rapture. They are clearly two separate distinct events ! Paul the Apostle was given the pre-trib Rapture as a mystery. It's the helmet of salvation. This heretic is robbing you of your helmet of salvation watch my video and learn how to rightly divide your Bible as commanded by Paul in (2nd Timothy 2:15) so you will not be deceived by this devil
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@@christdiedandroseagainfory2133 ^ I hope you don't think your comment is Christlike... Scriptures say be wary of professing Christians who speak like you just did
@@jerimee.m.3920
1 Corinthians 2:15
“But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.”
@@christdiedandroseagainfory2133 Apply all of scripture.
"Remind them of these things, and charge them before God not to fight about words. This is useless and leads to the ruin of those who listen. Be diligent to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who doesn’t need to be ashamed, correctly teaching the word of truth. Avoid irreverent and empty speech, since those who engage in it will produce even more godlessness, and their teaching will spread like gangrene. Hymenaeus and Philetus are among them."
2 Tm 2:14-17
Brother John God bless you You make me love my Lord Jesus Christ more.
Thank you Pastor John! This message should be seen by the whole universe 🌍 believers and unbelievers...God to be the glory!!!
Appreciate the sentiment, but the universe is a lie, erth is flat
Brothers, the Lord showed me 2 months ago, an extraordinary vision, regarding the DAY OF THE LORD. I saw myself outside, among the people, and suddenly, an immense light, which encompassed everything, coming from above, of an unimaginable force and power, hit us unexpectedly. At that moment, I didn't have time for anything, I just managed to shout: OH MY GOD! I woke up instantly, and I heard a voice in my head (I knew it was the Lord), which told me: GOAL! And then I told him, remembering that in the BIBLE, it is written that the Lord's Day is a day of great auspiciousness, as it has never been before and will never be again, and I asked Him if this is what we must do, when we see this light. The LORD answered me that that LIGHT is HIM and that our GOAL from that moment, for salvation, is to CRY FOR HIM!! What I can tell you, after this experience, is that the ONLY thing we need is FAITH in the LORD. Believe me, nothing will save us on that day, except HIM! Glory to our Lord! AMEN!!!!!!
One of the more *bizarre doctrines of Adventism* and Ellen G. White is her claim that The Apostle Paul writing in 2Thessalonians is on one hand making every effort to bring as many Gentiles ( *"all nations"* Rom.1:4) into the Church as possible, while at the same time, *the Adventist's* preach PAUL is telling everyone that His own Church which Christ instituted is going to become a great whore in less then 200 years. What people will do to justify themselves.
In fact, what the Apostle Paul was saying was that the rebellion and persecution of the Church by the Sabbath keepers, was the acts of lawlessness against the authority of the Church, wherein some future date, the rebellion against Christ's duly established Church was going to find it's culmination in some egomaniac so full of himself, that he so try to undermine the authority of the Pope and Church, that he would attack the Church and the Pope to the point he would declare himself God in order to undermine the Pope and the chair of Peter. It is indeed, in the city of Thessalonica that this very thing took place *(Acts 17)*
5*But the Jews (devout Sabbath keepers) which believed not, *moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people.* (to be killed)
6 And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also;
7 Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another king, one Jesus.
Here you have it, motivated by hate and envy, the fabrication of lies and persecution against the Church by devout Sabbath keepers in the very city to whom 2Thessalonians written.
Again, to the Thessalonians in 1Thess. 1:14, Paul writes concerning the rebellious Sabbath keepers, *"they MURDERED BOTH CHRIST AND THEIR OWN PROPHETS."* (As Christ also taught in Mt. 23)
*THEY PERSECUTED US* (THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH)
They *"DON'T PLEASE GOD!"*
And, they are *"CONTRARY TO ALL MEN"!*
All these same things were taught by Christ in Mt. 23.
The rebellion and persecution against the Church Christ himself established is well documented in the actions of the Judaizers who vowed they wouldn't eat or sleep until they murdered the Apostle Paul as they did James and later Peter and others. '
It is the Apostle Paul who wrote these inspired words engraved in scripture for all the world to see in every bible to the Church of Rome in his Epistle called "Romans" : Paul prophesied, *"The God of PEACE will crush Satan under YOUR feet"* *Rom.**16:20* This verse says all you need to know as to whose side people are on. Those who fight the Church of Rome, will be gathered with Satan and be crushed, as promised by the prophetic and inspired words the Apostle Paul, not given over to Satan as the Adventists teach.
The Lord is keeping me in Holy Spirit.The Fire of God.
Powerful, timely message for The Church! Thank you!❤️🔥
Jesus said "Let those with ears to hear, let them hear." The temple is in the hearts of those with a divine soul. The lawless man is the being who engineered us in his image and stole & enslaved souls here in this world. We are born ignorant of who we really are in a world where everything around us is a deception. But deep down we know, have known since we were very young. We naturally avoid following whats empty or cruel no matter the Earthly punishment. The Christ promised us that he is coming back to free us. No more bondage of the material world. We return forever to our true home. The ones who parish are the organic portals. Ring a bell? Thank you Christ for coming here to tell us who we really are despite the suffering it caused you. I always suspected I didnt belong here. I'm so relieved you're coming back to bring me home.
very clear explaination here praise God
Donald Johann Drumpf 666
Pastor John, thank you for sharing your insights with regards the man of lawlessness. I found it of much value. In light of the Biblical warnings of the coming deception i think it is important to keep in mind that G-D does not depend on us for His glory and human pleasure is not portrayed in the Bible as the sole way G-D is glorified. Nature, miracles/events can and does bring glory to G-D. Seeking "happiness" should not be our primary goal. We should guard against this especially at this time. If earthly hedonism is chasing after external sensory pleasures then too easily Christians (especially considering we are about to experience deception en masse) can be deceived into also chasing after "godly" extra-sensory pleasures (which technology/AI can easily and readily supply) which in turn promotes a preoccupation with/ indulgence of the self. I will stick with the Word on what we ought to do to please GOD. By implication it will be best for us to do so and will ensure peace and joy reigns in us:
Mark 12:30 says, “And you shall love the Lord your GOD from your whole heart and from your whole soul and from your whole mind and from your whole strength.”
May the most high continue using you more and more
Brave and powerful message.
AoC Network Amen 🙌🏾
Hi!
AoC Network hi Brother Jerrin, so nice to see you commenting!
AoC Network when is your next video coming out?
Bryson Jones this month is the plan. :)
I like so much the way you give weight to every words, every ideas written in the Bible . it is like I see Jesus talking. Sooo good
The best Message on The second coming I have ever heard. I am really blessed.
Indeed, its a good word.
Mark McMillion does an excellent overview of Daniels end time 70 7's prophecy. This helped me s lot...
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AMEN, I SECOND THAT! 🌅
I feel sorry for you Frankie. I’m quite sure Paul wasn’t writing about the second coming just to tell you go back to work it’s clear this is about getting tithe money. The man of lawlessness is already here.
@@larryhall2977 depends on your observation. Depends on your understanding. Or maybe you didn't listen the whole message. But anyway keep it up with your own understanding.
Haven't watched it yet - just stumbled across this vid 🖒
A glorious message on this resurrection Sunday.
Can't say I'll read such a long comment but I did notice the copy and past.
@@HearGodsWord.... Child, you are right. Real saints don't bother to read
new (to them) doctrines if it takes more than 2 minutes of their time..
Your "fruit" exposes you as NOT being a "wheat/sheep/saint".
You are known by your "fruit" child.
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@@wisevirgin3405 yeah copy and paste is so wise isn't it! Choosing not to read your comment has nothing to do with reading scripture. Using CAPS makes you seem more like a child than wise! You no nothing of my fruit! I simply enjoyed this sermon but I guess that bothers you, which is quite sad really.
@@HearGodsWord ... Child the question is NOT whether I should "copy and paste"
MY OWN WORDS, but rather whether you can find ONE VERSE in the Bible that
actually REFUTES anything I have said.
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So, you pretend that repeating the TRUTH over and over is a bad thing.
But being ignorant of any Scripture to REFUTE that teaching is a good thing.
You embarrass yourself child. You are known by your "fruit" and yours is only
ignorance of any Scripture to refute - so you complain about repetition...
go find a "safe place" to hide from reality snowflake.
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BTW.. the BIBLE also repeats many verses... did the Apostles "copy and paste"?
you embarrass yourself child.
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@@wisevirgin3405 calling me a child embarrasses yourself virgin! I made a simple comment and you run your mouth off on other things. I made no reference to any scripture so have shown no ignorance. But you feel the need to comment and I wasn't interested in what you had to say. It's quite simple, but then maybe you're not as wise as you think, perhaps some pride going on there. You are the child here and certainly not wise. Maybe you should go bother someone who cares what you think because you seem to crave attention, which is what a child would do. The fact is that you clearly had a problem with me enjoying this sermon. Maybe you're a young person looking for a disagreement which is why you talk about refuting scriptures.
No Scripture in context actually teaches a pre-trib rapture. Look carefully for it, you won't find it. Let the text speak for itself.
I agree
Correct
Agreed
Really? This whole chapter proves the pre trib rapture. John piper doesn’t understand what this passage really says.
It says the the Thessalonians were afraid of the day of Christ. Why would they be afraid of the rapture being at hand if Paul said it's a comfort In 1 Thessalonians 4:18 and Titus 2:13? Because the day of Christ in verse 2-3 is referring to armageddon as Jesus comes back in Judgement. It’s not talking about our rapture.
To know Jesus is coming to take you to heaven while being alive at the rapture before the tribulation and judgement that he releases is the biggest comfort anyone can ever get. It's not something that will trouble you.
Paul's whole point in verse one is that in light of the rapture, we must not be shaken or troubled that the tribulation and second coming of Jesus in judgement is at hand
This tribulation period and deception of the antichrist is for those who rejected the truth. (2 thess 2:9-12)
THEY will suffer the antichrist because THEY received not the Love of the truth.
The whole reason why the antichrist comes on the scene and deceives the world is the wrath of God on a world that rejected his truth.
God sent his son to save the world but the wicked world rejected him, so God will allow and send the antichrist to deceive the world as a consequence and a tool for his wrath because the world rejected God's truth.
Paul only mentions unbelievers in the tribulation in this passage. He never hinted we would see it because it’s meant for unbelievers.
Piper didn’t read the whole chapter. He left out verses 13-17 which say we won’t be seeing any of the tribulation or antichrist because we believed the truth.
2 thess 2:13-17 says:
BUT WE are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning CHOSEN YOU TO SALVATION through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the OBTAINING THE GLORY OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work."
Here Paul says that God chose us for salvation. We won't be seeing any of the antichrist or tribulation because we did have belief of the truth and because that time is for unbelievers. He even mentioned that God chose to save us from it and called us to obtain the glory of Jesus. ( to receive our glorified bodies) and that happens in the rapture! He never mentions the Thessalonians in the tribulation.
Why? Because the church is NOT going to be here. How do i know the salvation in verses 13-14 is referring to the rapture? Because the immediate context tells me. It’s talking about a time where the antichrist will rise and deceive the world but God chose us to save us from it. And he even mentions that the restrainer must leave first before the antichrist is revealed.
V 6-7 ( Holy spirit dwelling in church) the church restrains evil because we have the HS in us. Don’t you know Jesus gave us power and authority over all evil spirits? The one in us is greater than the antichrist. 1 john 4:3-4. We must leave before because the body of Christ can overcome the antichrist with the power of the Holy Spirit!
Paul is making a contrast between two groups in this passage. One group was left to suffer the tribulation and antichrist for not believing the truth. ( unbelievers. 2 Thess 2:9-12)
And the other, (which is us) That God chose to save from it and to obtain the glory of Jesus for believing the truth. (The church. 2 thess 13-17)
This sole chapter proves the church won’t be here for the antichrist and yet people misunderstand it 🤦🏼♂️
@@RUclipsChannel-vd6xn The problem, IMHO, is in bringing the idea of a pretrib rapture to the passages. This idea is then superimposed over the passages to make them seem to support it. This is seen in what you wrote. Actually, it's a fairly new idea in the church, becoming popular only in the last 180 years or so. Now, Jesus said he will return after the tribulation. Right? Okay, you have to prove to me that Paul was speaking of a different "coming" than the one our Lord spoke of in Matt. 24, Right? Paul even calls it his "coming" in 1 Thess. 4:15. Yet we are supposed to believe Paul had a different "coming" in mind? Really? I don't think so. Don't you think Paul would have made that clearer? Paul never says he comes before the tribulation, so it's an idea foreign to the passages, but brought to them. This is called eisegesis. For example, the wrath we are spared from Paul describes in 1 Thess. 5:1-3. Hope that helps. Anyway, I appreciate you friend and I know you have zeal for the Lord. Keep serving our Lord. God bless you.
The hamster wheel peoples. I talked to someone for 4 1/2 hours on the phone yesterday and I tried so hard to love, lecture preach I have 30 more years on this young girl I feel like I’m not doing my job unless I do exactly what I did yesterday and it just falls on deaf ears so please pray for the young men and women out there that are not hearing what we are trying to teach them. I never of course, want to ruin God‘s plan for these individuals however, when they ask complain, need want something from me I don’t wanna reset giving them anything before I do this not to mention, I don’t wanna be taken advantage of. Thank you for this message. It was much needed. God bless you all repent repent, repent stay in constant prayer. The time is near.
KJV John 5
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
Those would be some disappointed children of God if we were still waiting since Paul told them that God would repay those who are afflicting them and that they would get relief at the Lords coming. If that didn’t happen in 1st century, then those believers did not receive what Paul promised.
This teaching has believers waiting on a false deferred hope rather than living in the confidence in the New Covenant kingdom of God.
Thank you Jesus!
It’s simple people who believe and accept god and Jesus as our saviors and our lords like me will see him when he returns and people who don’t will not see him
I have a sincere question and hope you can provide a sincere answer.
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Since the Bible teaches there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth
before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" why do
you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? Why do you not preach what God has specifically NAMED in Scripture?
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In Mat 22:2 God specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 13 (many verses) God NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 25:1-13 God NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and
God specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and
7 and 8 and 19.
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The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the
(1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah.
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Since the Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is
also shown as the 7-Headed Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and
as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and as
Satan's "Little Season"...
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In other words, PEOPLE living in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE
living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living during the reign of
the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season".
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And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living
on earth when the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth.
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In Matthew 25:1-13 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called the
ten "toes" and ten "kings" who are living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are called "ten Horns" and "ten Kings".
In Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings".
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BTW... since Daniel 7:11-12 shows these PEOPLE are "given to the Burning Flame"
and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is
"cast into the Lake-of-Fire" we can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine that
Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations cannot stand
because NOBODY preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdom" continue to have
their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12] AFTER the PEOPLE
living in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire. Therefore,
Daniel's Beasts/Kingdoms MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms.
Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven"
on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".
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This is ignoring the fact that God PROMISED the truth about Daniel's prophecies
would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to all the saints) until the "time-of-the-end",
also shown as the "Season and Time" after the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has
been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations"
on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are immediately proven false
because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed".
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Given this "harmony of Scripture" and the reality that God has specifically NAMED
four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth... my sincere question to you is WHY are you not currently preaching all of these Biblical Truths?
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@Psalm 27 .... Child, you have not even ATTEMPTED to answer my question.
Instead you DEFLECTED to a different subject and you built a STRAWMAN.
That is not the "fruit" of a saved "wheat/sheep"... that is the "fruit" of a "tare"
Remember, you are KNOWN by your "fruit".
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Let me make this very simple for you child... when you preach, do you teach
what Jesus has specifically NAMED in Scripture? Or do you intentionally ignore
what Jesus has specifically NAMED?
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The Bible teaches there's four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth
before Jesus Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven",
WHY would you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? WHY do you not preach what
the Lord Jesus has specifically NAMED in Scripture?
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In Mat 22:2 Jesus specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 13 (many verses) Jesus NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 25:1-13 Jesus NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
Jesus specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew
chapters 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. These are all important Biblical FACTS.
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The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the
(1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah.
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Read more about these five (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven" in chapters 3 & 5,
the difference in "Kingdom of Heaven" and "Kingdom of God" is chapter 6
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www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-3
www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-5
www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-6
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Remember child... when you DEFLECT or when you build STRAWMEN
you are not disrespecting ME... you are disrespecting the Word of God.
Likewise when you intentionally IGNORE the verses cited above or the
DOZENS of verses contained in the Links (above) you are not showing
disrespect for Me child... you are showing disrespect for the Word of God.
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Remember... you are KNOWN by your "fruit". Will you now show the
"fruit" of a saved "wheat/sheep" (child of God) or will you IGNORE
Scriptures and show the "fruit" of unsaved "tares/goats" who are
the "children of Satan"?
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Very well explained Dr. Piper! Many people need to hear this, and read their bible
Sir, may invite you to read my post above on this page to "Leave a message user is offline".
+King Timex -- You said, "Many people need to hear this, and read their bible" --Yes, they do, and since the Rapture of the Church is imminent and he never mentioned it to my understanding, indeed, people need to read AND study their Bibles. It's throughout the New Testament, and God's word is TRUTH.
@@TheMistysFavs imminency? Listen to this sermon again, por favor. Then read the Word without Scofield's notes or Larkin's charts explaining it for you. I'd bet hard money that your Bible is a study/devotional Bible. You don't need it. Get yourself one without the opinion of a man written throughout!
This is so important for our eternal souls ... very emotional.
Thank you for preaching the truth. You spoke about the heart that is so easily deceived, and recalled Jeremiah 17: 9 the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked...
So the notion that Christ could return at any moment is an obvious error.
Read Matthew 24:37-44, and this is not describing the event in the same chapter verse 9-28. The first is describes Jesus visible return after the Tribulation. The second passage describes the Rapture, which clearly says it will happen during the wheat harvest, two men in the field, two women at the mill grinding grain. Wheat harvest is in the spring to summer. We can know the season!
Faith & Action :,yes it is. Study to show thyself approved 1 Timothy 3:16
@@zion-pikin5968 I have studied to show myself approved, I just wanted to make that statement since he didn't seem to want to address it.
@@christdiedandroseagainfory2133 this blind guide is trying to tell you you will be jettisoned out at any time, maybe even before you finish reading this comment! Listen to Pastor John on this. He knows what he's talking about
@@George-ur8ow
He's preaching the gospel of the kingdom a false gospel!
Paul said if anyone preaches another gospel besides his let him be accursed! Go check my latest video out called (mid acts dispensationalism) it's 30 minutes
You need to understand the difference between the gospel of the kingdom and the gospel of grace that's why this pastor is deceived
Amen, I feel Blessed. May God Continue Blessing Him in all his ways.
You have to check out video called the great salvation 52mis channel link is Https:// ?m.ruclips.net/video/BA0S6r13J1k/видео.html let me know want you think
Thank You! Jesus. This Easter Sunday..For Your Life..Your Death..for dying on the cross for me..and For Your Resurrection. Thank You For your Mercy and Grace and For Your Gospel. Thank You for the Gift of the Holy Spirit to abide with me..To Teach, to Comfort..To Guide me in my Life. Thank You! Jesus..For Everything!
Huey Leadbetter
Thank You! Huey! I have come a long way from a cult. It is not an easy road and I still struggle with old indoctrinations sometimes. Jesus is a Good Teacher!
Kathleen Wharton - Still going on strong then, Kathleen. This man's message is not correct however, so keep looking to the Holy Spirit of Truth to teach you. (John ch. 14 v 1-3; 1 Thess. ch. 4 v 13-18).
Smeaton Lighthouse
Yes! I listened to the message. It was totally opposite what Jesus teaches. But I felt Forgiving on Easter Sunday..so I forgave him and refrained from pointing it out. Jesus is my Teacher! He is the Best!
@@kathleenwharton2139 Once again I can't argue with you last comment.
Smeaton Lighthouse
Yes! We have to forgive teachers who teach falsehoods. The last act of Jesus on the Cross was that of forgiving His enemies the Pharisees. And He said..Those who forgive will be forgiven. Those who don’t forgive will not be forgiven. And then He was resurrected! have had a rough time forgiving titled men who used bible verses to control my life..But I got to Do it!
So much treasure packed in this teaching
God is Great!
God is Good!✝️✝️❤️
THANK YOU. I fear many brothers and sisters hold to amil and postmil positions not because it is the conscience's prayerful conviction of Scripture's meaning, but because they lack the faith and patience to make peace with the idea of 2,000 years being "soon." We are coming in from the highways and hedges, from the highways filling the hall. Mt 22:1-14, Lk 14:23-24. In light of what Christ did, what He suffered, the pleasure the Father must feel toward His Son- I posit that 2,000 years is not long enough. He's worthy of all!
I have a sincere question and hope you can provide a sincere answer.
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Since the Bible teaches there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth
before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" why do
you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? Why do you not preach what God has specifically NAMED in Scripture?
---------
In Mat 22:2 God specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 13 (many verses) God NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 25:1-13 God NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and
God specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and
7 and 8 and 19.
-----------
The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the
(1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah.
-----------
Since the Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is
also shown as the 7-Headed Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and
as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and as
Satan's "Little Season"...
------------
In other words, PEOPLE living in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE
living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living during the reign of
the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season".
--------------
And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living
on earth when the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth.
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In Matthew 25:1-13 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called the
ten "toes" and ten "kings" who are living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are called "ten Horns" and "ten Kings".
In Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings".
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BTW... since Daniel 7:11-12 shows these PEOPLE are "given to the Burning Flame"
and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is
"cast into the Lake-of-Fire" we can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine that
Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations cannot stand
because NOBODY preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdom" continue to have
their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12] AFTER the PEOPLE
living in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire. Therefore,
Daniel's Beasts/Kingdoms MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms.
Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven"
on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".
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This is ignoring the fact that God PROMISED the truth about Daniel's prophecies
would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to all the saints) until the "time-of-the-end",
also shown as the "Season and Time" after the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has
been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations"
on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are immediately proven false
because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed".
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Given this "harmony of Scripture" and the reality that God has specifically NAMED
four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth... my sincere question to you is WHY are you not currently preaching all of these Biblical Truths?
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John Piper is a solid Bible teacher! I'm definitely going to put this on my "watch later."
How sad that John Piper does not realize the "revealing" of the Man of Sin
is the SAME EVENT as seeing the "Abomination of Desolation" [Mat 24:15].
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John Piper does not realize WHEN these things occur. He assumes the
revealing of the Man of Sin (and seeing Daniel's Abomination) occur at the
END of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 13:11,24,31,33,44,47,52]
But that is a mistake.
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The revealing of the Man of Sin and the saints seeing Daniel's Abomination
and the rule of the Anti-Christ during the Great Tribulation of Satan's "Little Season"
all occur AFTER the end of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" and during the
(4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" (also shown as Daniels 4th Beast)
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Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins,
which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
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John Piper knows the revealing of the Man of Sin (and return of the Lord)
occurs at the END of the age... but what he does not realize is that it occurs
at the END of the FOURTH "Kingdom of Heaven" and not the THIRD Kingdom.
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The Bible is very clear that there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven"
on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom"...
John Piper knows the Man of Sin is revealed at the END of the age, but
he ASSUMES it is the end of the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" instead
of [Mat 25:1] the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".
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If John Piper knew more he would realize the man called the "Little Horn"
in Daniel's FOURTH Beast is the same as the Man of Sin in 2nd Thess.
And this "Anti-Christ", who does not rise until the FOURTH Beast [Dan 7:8]
ruling over the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1 above] is the same
event as the Abomination of Desolation that is "placed" or "set-up" during
Daniel's Fourth Beast. [Dan 11:31 and 12:11]
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Basically, John Piper (and all who are reading this comment) fail to
understand that AFTER the end of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
Satan is loosened from the Bottomless Pit and rules (thru his Anti-Christ)
during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".
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In other words... Daniel's Fourth Beast is also shown as the Revelation Beast
and also shown as the Great Tribulation and also shown as the reign of the
Anti-Christ and also shown as Satan's "Little Season".
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So the PEOPLE living in Daniel's Fourth Beast are the SAME PEOPLE living
during the Revelation Beast(s) and the SAME PEOPLE living during the
Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and the SAME PEOPLE living
during the rule of the Anti-Christ during Satan's "Little Season".
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And we can know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are
the people living on earth when the Lord Returns. In other words,
they are the LAST SAINTS on earth before the Lord Returns.
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So... the great "falling away" occurs during the FOURTH Kingdom
(not the church age) and the revealing of the Man of Sin and the
Last Saints seeing Daniel's Abomination of Desolation all occur
during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".
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This is easily proven by Matthew 25:1-13.
The EVENTS of that prophecy (which end with the "final harvest"
cannot be talking about the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
because of verses 25:8-10. At NO TIME during the church age
(at no time after Pentecost) do the saints REFUSE to preach and
send those seeking God off to some other (unnamed) people.
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Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil;
for our lamps are gone out. 9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so;
lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell,
and buy for yourselves. 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came;
and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
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You can LEARN all the details about Daniel's "Abomination of Desolation"
and the revealing of the "Man of Sin" by carefully reading the following:
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www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8
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Wise Virgin nice explanation but I wanna know if you believe in the pre trib rapture?
@@christos8418 ... The Bible is very clear that the Last Saints, part of the "ten virgins"
go through the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" before the "wise virgins"
are gathered into the Wedding and the "foolish virgins" are left behind [Mat 25:1-13]
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The Bible is also very clear that the "Final Harvest" of Saints occurs just before the
END of the Revelation Beast (which is the same time period as the Great Tribulation).
You can see this in Rev 18 and Rev 19 and Rev 11 and Daniel 7. There is a whole
explanation of this in Chapter 1.3 on the link below (you should read the entire chapter)
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www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-1
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In fact, the PURPOSE of the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1]
is to bring Judgment on the "House of God". The Great Tribulation has TWO parts....
these are shown as the TWO "woes" and the TWO (5th and 6th) Trumpets and the
TWO "heads" of the Revelation Beast (the 7th head and 8th head) and finally as the
TWO Beasts [Rev 13 shows a Second Beast rising after the First Beast is fallen]
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You should read the entire Chapter 8 on the link below... because it explains
(for the first time in history) the Truth about Daniel's "Abomination of Desolation"
but be sure to read section 8.4 because it explains how the Great Tribulation was
(first) Judgment against the "wheat/sheep" living at the end (the "wise virgins")
and then (secondly) Judgment against the "tares/goats" living at the end who
are called the "foolish virgins".
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www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8
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The period shown as the Great Tribulation is also shown as the Revelation Beast
and also shown as Daniel's Fourth Beast and also shown as the RULE of the person
commonly called the "Anti-Christ" and also as Satan's "Little Season".
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The PEOPLE living during the Great Tribulation are called the "ten virgins" in Mat 25:1.
The SAME PEOPLE are called ten "Kings" and ten "Horns" in Daniel 7 and
The SAME PEOPLE are called ten "Kings" and ten Horns" in Rev 17
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But check this out!!!
These verses show (and confirm what I mentioned in chapter 8.4) that the PURPOSE
of the Great Tribulation (aka the Revelation Beast) is to bring Judgment on these people
called the ten "virgins/kings/horns"
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Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received
no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have
one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
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These ten "virgins/kings/horns" all "give their power and strength to the (Rev) Beast.
That is showing the NATURE of the first part of the Great Tribulation or the NATURE
of the First Revelation Beast (the Second Rev Beast does not include the saints)
So that begs the question: WHY in the world would the Last Saints (wise virgins"
ever "give their power and strength to the (first) Revelation Beast" ?
And God answers that question here:
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Rev 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree,
and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
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So... during the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" no saint ever understood the
NATURE of the END, because it was "sealed" to them [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]. And
during the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" no saint ever understood the NATURE
of the END, because that was not for them to know... they were to "seek and save"
all the "lost sheep".
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Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons,
which the Father hath put in his own power.
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However God PROMISED the Last Saints "shall understand" the "sealed" prophecies
about the end [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10 and Jesus PROMISED the Last Saints
"shall see ALL THESE THINGS" (all Great Tribulation prophecies fulfilled)
[Mat 24:15 and 24:33]
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So the answer to your question is the Last Saints ABSOLUTELY go through
the Great Tribulation... and the "Season and Time" after that (see Chapter 1)
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Wise Virgin thanks for your understanding but there’s also overwhelming evidence for a pre rapture.
@@christos8418 .... Child, you made a statement that (a) contradicts all the SCRIPTURE
that I provided to you and (b) provide NO SCRIPTURE to support your statement.
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That is not how it works child. When you present a doctrine (especially when another
has presented SCRIPTURE to contradict your doctrine) then you are OBLIGATED to offer
SCRIPTURE to support your doctrine. Otherwise you have nothing. Just "feelings".
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Now here is the problem.... the passages that you THINK offer proof of a pre-Trib
rapture are verses that you do not understand the CONTEXT. You cannot hope to
understand the MEANING of any verse when you have not understood the context.
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So you have to provide at least ONE PASSAGE of Scripture that teaches the Saints
are raptured BEFORE the beginning of the Great Tribulation... when Mat 25:1-13
teaches (in no uncertain terms) that the Saints "went forth" into the Tribulation.
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Besides Matthew 25 I presented verses from Rev 18 and Rev 19 and Rev 11 and Dan 7.
So you saying "there's also overwhelming evidence for a pre trib rapture" means
LESS than nothing because you are CONTRADICTING SCRIPTURE with "feelings".
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Just SHOW ME this "overwhelming evidence" (in Scripture) and I will show you
that you simply did not understand the CONTEXT of that passage and, therefore,
could not possibly understand the MEANING of the passage.
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Right now we have a situation where I have provided half-a-dozen SCRIPTURES
proving the Saints go through the Great Tribulation. And you have only offered
your "feelings".
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So... am I supposed to believe all the SCRIPTURES that contradict you or
am I supposed to believe your "feelings" are more authoritative than Scripture?
You see how ridiculous your position is child?
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Listen... this is really very simple. When you believe the verses you LIKE and you
reject (or intentionally ignore - as in this case) all the verses that contradict your
doctrine... then you do not really believe the Gospel at all - instead, you really only
believe your "feelings" and you ignore all Scriptures contradicting your "feelings".
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Frankly, that is the "fruit" of an unsaved "tare" or a non-believer.
Real "wheat/sheep/saints" do not (EVER) reject or intentionally ignore Scripture.
The "fruit" of real saints is to find "harmony" will ALL RELATED SCRIPTURES.
We would NEVER take passages we like and reject verses we don't like.
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You are known by your "fruit" child.
What will you do? Will you offer SCRIPTURES instead of your "feelings"
Or will you just continue to intentionally ignore all the Scriptures that contradict you?
You are known by your "fruit".... let's see if that "fruit" is good or bad.
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Great message.... That'S the True Word of God.. Thanks you Pastor John Piper
+Andreia Derrica ---
That's NOT the true word of God if he is indeed omitting the Rapture of the Church.. It's all throughout the New Testament. I DON'T think calling God's word a lie is "healthy".. It's in almost every book, yet people deny it just as the Apostle Peter say they would.. "seeking after their own lusts" Get into the Bible for yourself.. rather than *depending* on men, especially men who are teaching falsely.
@@TheMistysFavs it's because i read the bible that i'm telling that this is the true word of God..... I don't see in the bible that there will be a secret rapture and that the church won't go through the tribulation.....
@@TheMistysFavs It is not that the Rapture is omitted, rather it is the timing of it.
Look closely at the words of Jesus in Matthew 24:29-31 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days..."
I remember in 2010 or so, I was working at a hospital. Many left their jobs and stopped paying their bills because Harold Camping has decided the day. I tried to tell them he was wrong. No man would no the day. None listened.
dirigoelectric interesting comment. I remember that very well.
Camping was such a heretic. Glad to hear though that Family radio finally removed his recordings from the radio line-up, fully repudiated his false teachings, and the CEO Tom Evans even publicly repented of Harold Camping's gross error.
Thank you for this blessed message pastor!
This church was afraid that the day of Christ had already started, then Paul sent them a timeline to support the Rapture and calm their fears. Why would Paul assume they needed this refresher in the timing of the Rapture, if it was supposed to be post-trib and so several years away?
Yes, they thought the resurrection and rapture had happened and they had
been "LEFT BEHIND".
So he told them 2 things must happen 1st -
the apostasy
the man of sin be revealed.
@@lw216316, he told them two things then added a third thing, the restrainer arising before the man of sin can manifest.
@@biblehistoryscience3530
I think the man of sin is here. In the Western world.
I appreciate this channel so much.
according to what i read and understand being caught up (the rapture) happens before Daniels 70 th week (THE TRIBULATION )Romans 5:9
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 1 Thessalonians 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 1 Thessalonians 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
Gary Shoen wrath and the great tribulation are two separate things. The great tribulation comes 1st (Daniel 70th week) then the wrath comes after when Christ gathers the elect (Mathew 24:29-30). At the end of the great tribulation which we will go through, Christ will gather everyone (1 coming and 1 event) then he will pour out his wrath upon those on the earth, that wrath we are not appointed for
@@middledice2 Yes this is true. I always was told in church we would not go through the Tribulation but God opened my eyes. I believe all these Christians waiting to be raptured because of the secret rapture lie will feel betrayed by God. 😥 I think this false teaching may be what causes the great falling away. I share the truth as much as I can. We have got to wake the church up! ❤
@@bevcombs9507 Amen! Same here. I could have torn my clothes in shame like they did in many stories of the BIble when I looked into it more about a decade ago. Praise the Lord!
@@middledice2 Yes! This is 100% Bible and 100% correct
Good to quote 1 Thess 4, but did you continue reading to 1 Thess 5? Chap 5 begins with a conjunction "But" - it's continuing what was written in chapter 4 and tells us the timing of the rapture - it is the same day as the day of the Lord:
1 Thess. 5 - "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.." - this is where the timing comes in - the day of the Lord! Same continuing thought. He would not have written this if the timing was different, and certainly would not have used "Day of the Lord". In fact, Paul does not write anything about a different timing, multiple returns, or about any "secret rapture" that some believe in
I understand the post tribulation after reading the word. What made it clear was the first resurrection and 2 Thess 1 and 2.
My Bible says he will appear in the clouds first , for his Bride ,those who love his appearing then second coming he will touch down on the my.of olives and split the mountain also he will bring his church the Bride with him !
Brenda Girard Amen, shout it from the rooftops!! This man has deceived everybody and goes against the word of God!! 🌈☝️✝️☝️🌈
You need to understand all the scriptures about eschatology to come to the right conclusion by yourself. There is only ONE RETURN by JESUS. Read 1Thes.4:14-18 and don't stop there but continue to chapter 5 verse 9. In the original letter there were no chapters and verses. The COMING of JESUS is on the same Day as the DAY of the LORD. Read 2Thes.1:7-10 slowly and attentively. The DAY of WRATH upon the wicked happens on the same DAY of GLORY for the Saints.
I am not twisting any scriptures here. We may get to see the TRUTH when our eyes are opened.
First, what NG David wrote is correct. Read what he wrote, it is sound.
Tribulation & God's wrath are totally different. It's simple to show scripturally:
1. Matt 24:29-30 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."
2. Rev 6:12: "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood"
Rev 6:17: "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"
Wrath begins CLEARLY after the sun and moon are darkened after the 6th seal...
After the tribulation the sun and moon are darkened (6th seal) and the wrath of God begins (7th seal). With the 7th seal we have God's supernatural punishment of the world begin. All seals before are man-made tribulations (1 - antichrist, 2 - wars 3 - famine 4- death 5 - martys put to death, 6th seal sun and moon darkened. 7th seal wrath of god begins - 7 trumpets and 7 vials - all supernatural non man-made punishments)
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Brenda Girard - Yep, my Bible says the same thing, and I can tell you where these Pastors mess up. 2 Thes. 2 - It speaks of the "Day of Christ" = Day of the Lord = Tribulation period..They take 2 Thes. 3 to mean that Antichrist comes before the Rapture, which is incorrect as they read verse 2 wrong.. then if they read down in the chapter further, no doubt you know, where it says, and He that letteth will let until He be taken out of the way - that's the Holy Spirit filled Church will be removed from the earth. TOO many don't read 2 Thes. 3 correctly and make the SAME error that Antichrist will come BEFORE the Rapture.. Check it out.. God bless sister!
Eyes on the skies.. Jesus is coming SOON!
PS -- John Piper has gone too far as far as "hooking up" with the Catholic church..I won't listen to him. I'm just passing by and looked at the comments. Pastor John Ricci is an excellent Pastor if you'd like a KJB truth preaching Pastor. As is Pastor Ralph "Yankee" Arnold.. Both have their church's channels on here.. The truth is so HARD to come by in these last days! Be blessed, be well!
EDIT -------I looked them up: Grace Christian Fellowship channel for Pastor Ricci.. Bible Broadcast for Pastor "Yankee" - though both come up on You Tube's search if you put in their names..I TRULY believe you will be blessed by them! I TRULY am!
@@TheMistysFavs if you believe the day of the Lord and the day of Christ are not the same day (I believe they are the same day) do you also believe that the "Kingdom of God" and the "Kingdom of Heaven" are different as well?
@56:52 mins
The main point here is life changing.
We are to love the Lord our God with all our heart, mind, and strength.
We are to delight ourselves in the Lord (Psalm 37).
Our brains are hardwired to respond to rewards of pleasure, and when we seek God diligently, He rewards us.
Christian Hedonism.
It's the way that we train little puppies with treats to reinforce good behaviour.😁❤️
Just as the Jewish people were (and are) confused about the two comings of the Messiah - first to suffer and give His life for the sins of the world and second to reign as the Prince of peace, and both these comings are separated by a period of time - could it be that many Christians are also confused that the return of Jesus for His Bride will also be two comings? The first coming will be in the clouds to receive those who have received Him by grace through faith; and then the second coming will be on earth to rescue Israel and reign physically on earth-both comings also separated by a period of time. God works in patterns and He repeats Himself loudly through the Word and through life. It requires humility and discernment to understand Him. Those who are eager to prove that they are right and others are wrong are most likely wrong themselves. God help us all.
No! We are only ever saved through faith alone by God's grace, never by ethnic race. This belief that the ethnic people of the old testament will believe and be saved because they SEE Christ at his coming is so a-biblical it blows my mind. What did Christ say when they asked for a visible sign, so that they could then believe? No sign but the sign of Noah. And only those people of the old testament that have rejected Christ their whole lives, that are then lucky enough to be alive at that specific time - at the return of Christ will be saved because they are fortunate enough to be alive at that time to see him? What if one passes away the day before? Tough luck, you are of the right ethnic race, but apparently you did not get the chance to see Christ so you could then believe and be eternally saved. This heresy undermines the very heart of belief in Jesus Christ. Hear my people, we are saved by faith, and "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN" . This 'dual covenant' multiple dispensation/multiple ways to be saved theology did not gain any mainstream acceptance until the early-mid 20th century, and then, only in portions of American Protestanism after the promotion of the Scofield bible. It breaks my heart.
+Str20ng
-- Everything you said here is in the Bible.. though Jesus' 2nd coming to the earth is just far more to it, but you have the right idea - to save the Jewish people and then Christ destroys Antichrist, there is SO much more.. But you are correct here according to my study of my Bible and what I hear from my own Pastors. we MUST do as Jesus said and BEWARE of false teachers -- like John Piper here in this very message.
@Psalm 27 I don't discuss theology with "Black Hebrew Israelites". I actually feel bad for you.
"Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?"
Think on that, then get yourself yo a bible-believing church. I'll say no more and will not be responding.
Those Christ said he counted worthy, would be considered the least of his followers, not well thought of..
In fact, because they would be causing plagues,, negative consequences would result from their activity, as prophesied at rev 11 :5 & 6, so they would be hated, just as he stated would be the case !!
Our inability to identify the two witnesses is the biggest problem facing mankind desiring salvation
As jesus said, those doing Good to his brothers , would be counted as if tgey had done it to him !!
This world is the same world, governed by Gods adversary , that killed him and persecuted his early followers, so would it not be the same in this time frame ?
The unpopular road, narrow and cramped is the one Christ would have us walk.
We are told he would shepherd the nations with an iron rod ..which does not sound pleasant or kindly...
What kind of sheperding iis that !!??.
The Church is the Israel of God from Genesis to Revelation. The two comings of Christ are firstly to take his Bride into heaven before the Great Tribulation and then at the end of the Great Tribulation He will return with His Bride to rule and to reign.
Thank you Father God for this message in Jesus name .
The danger in believing in a secret rapture is the awful confusion that it will be Jesus instead the Anti Christ who will perform miracles and create a one world religion while demanding to be adored and carry his mark! And many believers will be deceived.
Check out "after the tribulation" documentary here on youtube. It details your very point to a tee
@Huey Leadbetter I dont think it's silly at all. How many people actually read the bible? Christians who know the Word well definetly will, but few else, I think.
"For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night...But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness." (1 Thess. 5: 2, 4-5)
Paul tells here Christ's return is like a thief in the night for those who do not believe, but Christians ("bretheren") are the children of the day, we'll be wide awake for it!
@@George-ur8ow I definitely will!
@@DeeMontezx1 here's a link! ruclips.net/video/jTmZHDb_sP8/видео.html
Dorian Montez Good point! The Antichrist will try to deceive the elect. I believe there are many in the church that are not truly saved and will fall for this deception.
God is making a way to get through this.
So happy that I can say I lived in the times of John Piper and Paul Washer. 😊.
Is Washer a "sinless perfection" preacher? Heard this from someone else, but have not looked into it. If so, I'd be pretty dissapointed
@@George-ur8ow @George, no - Paul Washer is not a "sinless perfection" preacher, not at all. There are many videos here in which he states otherwise. You can either search for his name or "Heartcry Missionary." I agree with the OP: Paul Washer and John Piper are two of the most biblical pastors I've ever come across. I highly recommend anything by them.
@@CT-if2tt in a brief 2 min search just ryping in "paul washer sinless perfection" he does seem to think this is achievable? From his twitter feed May 10 2019: "The evidence of true conversion is not sinless perfection or a level of sanctification that is reserved for only the most mature believers. The evidence of conversion is that respond to our sin with contrition and cling to Christ and His perfect work on Calvary as our only hope."
But later, looks like he might have changed his mind, or made some modification? From twitter Jan 14 2020
"The evidence of salvation is not sinless perfection, but a new relationship with God’s commandments, a real inclination toward them, a genuine desire to do them, a growing practical application of them, and real contrition when our neglect of them becomes obvious (I John 2:3-5)."
Perhaps he defines it differently?
crystal clear that even the thought of foolishness is sin, and we all sin and come short of the glory of God. If you know his thoughts on this it would be appreciated. Being saved does not mean we'll never think a foolish thought again, of course
@@CT-if2tt Now I found this? "Sin will never be fully eradicated in our lives until our glorification in Heaven. The evidence of spiritual maturity is not sinless perfection, but a growing abhorrence of sin, a deeper contrition when we sin, and a more eager confession of sin.” - Paul Washer
Which one is he going with?
@@George-ur8ow True Christians desire to obey God but they also know that they are forgiven when they sin. Jesus said 3 times in John 14 "If you love Me, you will obey my commands." True love for Christ will produce good works. Good works are not what earns salvation: good works are the result of salvation. That's the difference. Anyone who teaches that we must do good works to earn God's favor is saying the opposite of what the Bible says. We do good works as a result of the love we have for Christ. See Eph 2:8-10 and notice where works come in: after salvation, and not to earn it. All of this is what Piper and Washer both teach. I hope that helps!
So powerful! After watching this and reading Revelation chapter 3 it makes sense. Don't be lukewarm!
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OquendoHector333 - A saved believer is a SAVED believer. We cannot be "lukewarm". We're saved or we are not. You're mis-interpreting that verse, sorry. Jesus did it ALL on Calvary's cross. We cannot do a thing to add to or subtract from it.. Nothing.. Study more on the verse, free Bible study tools at Biblehub.com.
Mary Mclocke Are you contradicting the very words of Jesus? Jesus said “ I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth”. Revelation 3:15-16
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The man of lawlessness is inside of us where Christ must demantle those ‘idols’ from the throne of our hearts.....Coming if Christ is within.....we are ascending into the heavenlies....please listen! Christ IN US is the hope of glory!! 🙏🏻♥️
Mark McMillion does an excellent overview of Daniels end time prophecy...
ruclips.net/video/iPRDpUvrldo/видео.html
That is not the implied meaning.
The man of lawlessness and his descendents have been cursing the earth for the past 500 years...raping, stealing, murdering and destroying all of the indigenous lands and people.....the anichrist has been ruling for the past 500 years already. Jacobs trouble has already occurred to the indigenous people globally for 500 years, and now it is coming to an end. And the remaining indigenous will be saved out of what is soon to come. The vials of judgement.
"About the Day of the Lord and our being gathered to him, brothers, to execute the justifiable judgment of God," Apostle Paul said in his letters for his spiritual brothers, "don't let any spirit, prophecy, or letter that is like came from us saying "The Day of the Lord is already reigning!" Don't let anyone deceives you by any means for the Lord's Day will not come unless these two things occur first:
"One, the people will reach the peak of their rebellion against the Truth that is being preached by the saints and....
"Two, the man of sin or the son of perdition is revealed first.
"Don't you remember that I used to tell you these things? And you know what is the hindrance right now so that he will be only exposed in the appointed time."
What will this wicked power is going to do?
"He will oppose and exalt himself above all the holy ones, so that he sets himself up in God's heavenly temple proclaiming himself as the Eternal God or the Holy Father, the head of the church and the dispenser of truth."
(Why is it that God will let the people to be ruled by this wicked ruler and also why will he let his saints to be captivated and oppressed?)
Because of the people's rebellion, God will punish them and at the same time, to test the faithfulness of his saints even in times of tribulation so that they can rightfully join Christ in judging the world on his Day.
Apostle Paul continued, "This secret power of lawlessness is already at work during these times but someone is hindering its exposé and he will remain secret until the one who is keeping him from being revealed is taken out of the way."
Satan, the Dark Power is hiding this power of wickedness, his tool for deception, so that he can effectively deceive the world and can lead the people to follow his evil teachings, and to facilitate his reign over them and over the saints. But after his appointed day ends, the Lord will come down, seize him, bound him, and will throw him in prison. If that happened already...
"Then the wicked one will be exposed whom the Lord will slain by the word of truth and destroy by the brightness of his Day."
And that Day will be a thousand bright years, the end times of the world to face God's judgments, mercy, and salvation.
But before that Day, Apostle Paul explained the Day of the Wicked One. He will perform counterfeit miracles using the power of Satan to deceive those who are perishing. They perish because they rejected the truth that should have saved them, but instead, they chose and delighted in wickedness. This is why God will send this powerful spirit of delusion over them so that they will continue to believe the lie and be condemned.
Hallelujah.
That was a huge help in my understanding of the events of AD70 and the second coming of Christ. Sweet!
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I have a sincere question and hope you can provide a sincere answer.
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Since the Bible teaches there are four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth
before the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" why do
you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? Why do you not preach what God has specifically NAMED in Scripture?
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In Mat 22:2 God specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 13 (many verses) God NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 25:1-13 God NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and
God specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew 5 and
7 and 8 and 19.
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The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the
(1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah.
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Since the Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is
also shown as the 7-Headed Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and
as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and as
Satan's "Little Season"...
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In other words, PEOPLE living in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE
living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living during the reign of
the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season".
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And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living
on earth when the Lord Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth.
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In Matthew 25:1-13 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called the
ten "toes" and ten "kings" who are living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are called "ten Horns" and "ten Kings".
In Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings".
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BTW... since Daniel 7:11-12 shows these PEOPLE are "given to the Burning Flame"
and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is
"cast into the Lake-of-Fire" we can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine that
Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations cannot stand
because NOBODY preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdom" continue to have
their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12] AFTER the PEOPLE
living in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire. Therefore,
Daniel's Beasts/Kingdoms MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms.
Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven"
on earth before the Lord Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".
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This is ignoring the fact that God PROMISED the truth about Daniel's prophecies
would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to all the saints) until the "time-of-the-end",
also shown as the "Season and Time" after the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has
been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations"
on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are immediately proven false
because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed".
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Given this "harmony of Scripture" and the reality that God has specifically NAMED
four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth... my sincere question to you is WHY are you not currently preaching all of these Biblical Truths?
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www.5thKingdomofHeaven.com
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@br1anm150k .. Child, you are so naive it is painful to see.
If you say the Man-of-Sin has already been revealed... does this mean
that you ALSO teach we are in the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven"?
Because Daniel's "Abomination" and the revealing of the Man of Sin
are the SAME EVENTS.
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Do yourself a favor and READ the link below.
I PROMISE it will provide you will RELATED SCRIPTURES
that you never understood before. Pay great attention to chapter 8.4,
It shows you something you were never shown before.
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www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8
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Please do not respond until AFTER you have read the link.
That would be RUDE because it means you intentionally IGNORED
all the RELATED SCRIPTURES provided in the link.
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You don't want to be RUDE to the Bible... do you?
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@br1anm150k ... are you KIDDING me child?
You say it is of "little importance" to support what you are teaching... or to offer
SCRIPTURES to refute what I presented to you? Do you REALLY think that is showing
the "fruit" of a saved "wheat/sheep/saint" in the church... or does that sound more like
the "fruit" of an unsaved "tare/goat" in the church? Remember - you are known by your "fruit"
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I did not ask you about "thinking you are wise"... that is a STRAWMAN you build there child.
I asked you to RESPOND to specific SCRIPTURES... and you chose to NOT do so.
Real "wheat/sheep/saints" always use Scriptures (not "feelings" like you)
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Secondly... you embarrass yourself with your ignorance child.
You do not even KNOW who the "ten virgins" are in Scripture.
Read Matthew 25:1-13 and you will LEARN that:
(1) The Lord Jesus specifically NAMES the Great Tribulation as a "Kingdom of Heaven"
(2) The PEOPLE living in the Great Tribulation are called the "ten virgins"
(3) The saved people are called "wise virgins" the unsaved called "foolish virgins"
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So... by not even knowing WHAT you are talking about you actually PRETEND to be able
to offer an "informed opinion"... that is just embarrassing child.
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Here is the link AGAIN child... it contains MANY Scriptures (over a DOZEN)
which describe WHAT and WHEN the "Man of Sin" is revealed and WHY
that is the SAME EVENT as "seeing" Daniel's "Abomination"
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BTW... please do not respond to me BEFORE you read the chapter
(and pay attention to section 8.4... it will be "news" to you).
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www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8
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If you decide to respond AGAIN while continuing to intentionally IGNORE all of the
SCRIPTURES offered on the link, (make no mistake) You are intentionally IGNORING
what JESUS said (not what I said). And to intentionally IGNORE Scriptures that you
do not like... is the "fruit" of an unsaved "tare", not of a saved "wheat".
It's REALLY as simple as that child.
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@br1anm150k ... I cannot imagine a more childish comment.
If you THINK something I said was not part of the TRUE GOSPEL
then you need only provide ONE VERSE that refutes any doctrine.
Instead you post gibberish... it means NOTHING because it does
not REFUTE anything I said, it only expresses your "feelings" and
your "feelings" mean LESS than nothing child.
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Now put your big boy pants on and SEE if you can actually find
ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradicts ANYTHING I have said:
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The Bible teaches there's four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth
before Jesus Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven",
WHY would you NOT teach this Biblical Truth? WHY do you not preach what
the Lord Jesus has specifically NAMED in Scripture?
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In Mat 22:2 Jesus specifically NAMES the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 13 (many verses) Jesus NAMES the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
In Mat 25:1-13 Jesus NAMES the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
Jesus specifically NAMES the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew
chapters 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. These are all important Biblical FACTS.
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The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" not specifically NAMED in Scripture is the
(1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom which contained all the saints from Adam to Noah.
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Read more about these five (5) "Kingdoms of Heaven" in chapters 3 & 5,
the difference in "Kingdom of Heaven" and "Kingdom of God" is chapter 6
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www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-3
www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-5
www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-6
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Scripture shows the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is also
shown as the Revelation Beast, and as Daniel's Fourth Kingdom/Beast and
as the RULE of the "Little Horn" (commonly called the Anti-Christ) and
it's also shown as the period known as Satan's "Little Season".
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In other words, PEOPLE in the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
are the SAME PEOPLE living during the Revelation Beast and the SAME PEOPLE
living in Daniel's Fourth Beast and the SAME PEOPLE living in the reign of
the "Anti-Christ" and the SAME PEOPLE living during Satan's "Little Season".
--------------
And we know this ABSOLUTELY because (in each case) they are the PEOPLE living
on earth when Jesus Returns to establish the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
In each case they are the LAST generation of "wheat and tares" living on earth.
-------------
In Matthew 25:1 they are called the "ten virgins". In Daniel 2 they are called
the ten "toes" and ten "kings" living as the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
is established [Dan 2:44]. In Daniel 7 they are the "ten Horns" and "ten Kings".
And in Revelation 17 they are ALSO called the "ten Horns" and the "ten Kings".
-------------
BTW: Daniel 7:11-12 shows these people are "given to the "Burning Flame"...
and that is the SAME EVENT as Revelation 19:20 when the Revelation Beast is
"cast into the Lake-of-Fire". We can know ABSOLUTELY that the false doctrine
that Daniel's Four Beasts (ultimately) represent physical/political nations
cannot stand - because NO Gospel preaches that the previous "Beasts/Kingdoms"
continue to have their "lives prolonged for a Season and Time" [Dan 7:11-12]
AFTER people in the (4th) "Kingdom of Heaven" are cast into the Lake-of-Fire.
--------------
Therefore, Daniel's Beasts MUST (ultimately) only represent spiritual Kingdoms.
Which (of course) harmonizes with the four (4) temporal "Kingdoms of Heaven"
on earth before Jesus Returns to establish the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".
---------------
Note: this ignores the fact that God PROMISED the truth of Daniel's prophecies
would remain "closed-up" and "sealed" (to everyone) until the "time-of-the-end",
also shown as the "Season and Time" AFTER the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" has
been destroyed. [Dan 7:11-12] So we know ABSOLUTELY that all "interpretations"
on Daniel's Beasts being physical/political Kingdoms are instantly proven false
because those interpretations were developed while the truth remained "sealed".
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See the truth (for the first time ever) about "Babylon the Great" in chapter 7
See the truth (for the first time ever) on Daniel's "Abomination" in chapter 8
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www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-7
www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-8
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Since Jesus specifically NAMED four (of the five) "Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth,
my sincere question to you is simple - WHY are you not currently preaching
these "Kingdoms of Heaven" that Jesus has specifically NAMED?
How can you NOT preach what Jesus has NAMED?
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many false prophets shall rise and deceive many. BTW that means al the AI comments.
@Emsflea Would you mind elaborating what you mean by this? Are you saying AI will rise and deceive many, or that those who have made observations about AI will "rise and deceive many"? Please clarify. Thank you.
Dear Pastor John, thank you for your truly message..
Amen
💜✞powerful message. Praise The Lord!!!
46:45 - 47:11...
Keep preaching .. God bless You .. 😄
For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.
He was removed within their lifetime. He had to be removed before the man of lawlessness (probably nero as many church fathers had said) was revealed as Paul told them this had to happen before Christ came to relieve them of their persecution and repay with retribution against those persecuting them. Whoever it was The thesselonians knew who the restrainer presently was and soon to know who was being restrained. But, as any good student of scripture, one must follow the pronouns, follow the audience relevancy, follow the historical context, then MAYBE one could come to a solid conclusion on who this restrainer was.
2 Thess 1-2:12 (follow the pronouns, follow the audience relevancy, put yourself in that first century and imagine you are recieving this letter from Paul during immense persecution)
Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, To the church of the Thessalonians (to who? The thesselonians) in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because >your faith< grows exceedingly (whos faith was growing? The thesselonians), and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith >in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure< (who’s enduring this persecution/tribulation? The thesselonians) , which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which *you* also suffer; since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation *those* who trouble *you* (who was being troubled? The thesselonians. Who was troubling them? We learn in earlier letter it was the apostate Jews [1 thess 2:14-16] ), and to give you who are troubled rest with us (whos trouble is given rest? The thesselonians trouble) >> *when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels* our< gathering together to Him (which coming? Is Paul talking about an entirely different just sentences later without hinting it to the thesselonians? No exegetical basis to say so) , we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come (Paul spoke to them of this day before. It was obvious to them that this day didn’t bring the end of the world but it wasn’t so obvious for them to say whether or not it had come yet. So Paul reclarifies to them here). Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed (There is a long history of Christian tradition identifying the man of sin and son of perdition with Nero), the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And >now you know what is restraining< (somethings restraining at the time Paul wrote this. something is presently (ca. A.D. 52) ‘restraining’ the Man of Lawlessness: ‘you know what is restraining [katechon; present participle], that he may be revealed in his own time’ (2:6). This strongly suggests the preterist understanding of the whole passage. The Thessalonians themselves know what is presently restraining the Man of Lawlessness [Nero was not yet ‘manifested;’ his true character was not discovered; he had not yet succeeded to the Empire. Claudius, his step-father, lived, and stood in the way of the son of Agrippina.]; in fact the Man of Lawlessness is alive and waiting to be ‘revealed.’ This implies that for the time-being Christians can expect some protection from the Roman government. The Roman laws regarding religio licita are currently in Christianity’s favor, while considered a sect of Judaism and before the malevolent Nero ascends the throne.”) , that >>>he may be revealed in his own timethenthey< did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved (is the “they” become some different “they” than those who God would pay retribution for persecuting the thesselonians? Does Paul immediately change subject without hinting to the thesselonians of this change?). And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Paul did not write this letter to the thesselonians with chapter a verse divisions. It was one complete letter written to them. is Paul promising them to be relieved from this persecution at the day of the Lord when He takes vengeance against their persecutors in 2,000+ years? Or is Paul writing a letter to them that isn’t even for them and the “you” isn’t actually to them (as he says it’s to them in 1:1) + the “them”, who are the persecutors God would pay retribution for at Christ’s coming, aren’t even their persecutors (as he says in 1:4-7). Is Paul writing really writing a letter to them, while they are going through massive persecution, to promise retribution for this persecution to a people 2,000+ years down the road? Are those thesselonians still alive and awaiting this relief and retribution?
Preterism is the only eschatology that does justice to scripture and follows a consistent hermeneutic/exegesis throughout scripture.
www.preteristcentral.com/Exposition%20of%20II%20Thessalonians%201%20&%202.html
That passage in 2 Thessalonians 2 refers to the end of government. For Jesus must reign until he has defeated all of his enemies. All Power, Dominion, and Authority. Then the last enemy to be destroyed is death itself. Then he will return the kingdom back to the Father that God may be All in All.
@@therealjakedean3317 You are sorely mistaken. It's the restrainer of the lawless. The Police, the Army, Etc. Government.
@@therealjakedean3317 Preterism is a lie. You don't know that asteroids will hit the Earth? Revelation 8-9 One of them is responsible for opening the "bottomless pit" which is where many are thrown in. The end of the "law" creates the end of humanity and civility. The lawless ones will be revealed. The offspring/children/descendants of destruction.
@@therealjakedean3317 Satan is not a being. Satan is the Father of All Lies and that Lie is that there is no God. Atheism is satanism.
Finally a big name that still preaches truth. God keep you grounded in truth Mr Piper as we those go astray around you.
One thing though the temple will be the temple in Jerusalem. It’s not generic or figurative. Many Old Testament passages concerning this issue are pretty clear it will be where Jesus takes up his residence during his physical milleniel reign on earth. It will happen soon.
We are in the tribulation 🙏 Prayers for our discernment during these times 🙌🙌🙌
Mark McMillion does an excellent overview of Daniels end time prophecy...
ruclips.net/video/iPRDpUvrldo/видео.html
AJC thank you 🙏
@@pamslove your wecome
I agree I have been telling alot of people that and that there is not much time left they should repent and give God the glory. The 7 year peace agreement already happened or were half way through it now.
@@nicholasjones5652 The last 7 years will commence with a Globally celebrated peace deal between Israel and her enemies. This will allow the 3rd temple to be built.
Mark McMillion does an excellent overview of Daniels end time prophecy here...
ruclips.net/video/iPRDpUvrldo/видео.html
When it is Mercy and love for people and caring and serving only Mercy and love and giving and helping people.When I meet Jesus I will get Mercy.
I’m ready for the rapture and I’m also ready for the tribulation - so there ya go lol
@@bigbruno56 he's not confused...we have all heard arguments using scripture that support both a tribulation and pretrib rapture.
He is mentally and spiritually prepared for either outcome. Understand? God bless you...
bigbruno56 I don’t know either. There is no verse that specifically says that we will be raptured secretly or even says plainly that there is a rapture before the tribulation. If you have found such verse, please give it to me. Even John MacArthur has admitted that you have to read in between the lines to get to the pre trib conclusion. This is not a primary doctrine to separate over unless a person is denying that these events are future and that Christ is not going to return. Now that’s a problem!
@@whitelily227 Thank you that was well said. Also we should be prepared for either scenario. A pre-trib rapture would be our preferred scenario, but we should be ready for either case is all I was trying to say.
bigbruno56 no confusion here - I’m just pointing out that my heart is ready for anything - if there is no rapture before the tribulation I’m ready to depend on God for strength to endure the tribulation - there are too many good arguments these days supporting all these discussions and I don’t have months of time to devote to this subject right now: so rather worry I decided to just enjoy the day and work on other subjects such as mastering hunger, self-denial, sleep and sexual desire which takes up a lot time- but also study Michael Brown, Perry Stone, Erwin Baxter, and Chuck Misslers 2 hour study on this rapture and yes John McArthur has great views as well - it a big subject with many verses and arguing points one needs to really get to know to form an comprehensive opinion and the Matthew 24 discussion can present some clarity challenges such as when will the trumpet be blown and other points: so finally, it doesn’t matter to me what happens or if I have a well developed opinion just a basic grasp because all that matters is that my heart loves Jesus right now and that I’m becoming more like Him throughout the day-it is the same with the eternal security discussion - eyes to the sky, he’s up there
bigbruno56 okay thanks have a good day and God Bless - I’m enjoying lunch and the sunny day
I LOVE THE TRUTH THE WORD OF GOD
Righteousness is when people turn away from sin and live for righteousness.So the change in people is not in anything but God and in Jesus Christ and in the Holy Spirit.
I thank him for Mercy right now.
Profound. Glory to The Lord Jesus.
I just PRAYED FOR THIS
Amen for consistency in your teaching.
Amen to you Pastor
Scarcely you see pastors teaching this hard truth of our Lord Jesus Christ to the church.
I didn’t realize John Piper was such a wild and crazy guy.
Good message. Thanks.
💫AMEN!☝️💖👣💯
My Father in heaven who has no sin revealed the man of lawlessness to me via a miracle.
No He didn’t.
Dear pastor John, the history of Roman Emperor Claudius, Nero and his mother who plotted to kill Claudius so that Nero could become Emperor etc.... all these will make clear the questions raised in your sermon. God bless and shalom!
Amen and amen to this!
Jesus is us, humanity, embodied as a single human. Christ is the individual human. The sacrifice we each make individually, is the true Christian sacrifice. Are you worthy or not? The choice is solely yours to makes. The body is the church, the mind is the temple. Worship it.
Great message John
The word "anti" in antichrist does not mean someone who is going to be openly anti (against) Christ. That word "anti" in the original Bible language can actually mean "IN PLACE OF". So could the bible antichrist be someone who has actually put himself "in place of" Christ? Well, we have further Bible evidence to support this. In 1 John 2:18-19 it says that there were "many antichrists", who "WENT OUT FROM THE CHURCH". In other words, John is pointing to the fact that those "antichrists" were WITHIN THE CHURCH!! Not only that, but Paul in 2 Thess. 2:3-4 calls the man of sin the "son of perdition". Now there is only one other place in the Bible where the name "son of perdition" is used, and that is in John 17:12 talking about JUDAS! And what was Judas? A professing follower of Christ Jesus. Someone who deceived from WITHIN the "church".
"The leader of the Catholic church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ (and is accepted as such by believers). The Pope is considered the man on earth who TAKES THE PLACE of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity." (John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope, p. 3, 1994).
"ANTI" - Christ = "IN PLACE OF" Christ!
Yes, it could be. The Pope and the Vatican are of their father the devil.
HOLY HOLY HOLY FATHER YAHWEH ALMIGHTY lead us today in Your Everlasting way.
Everything left behind is no longer the focus.But what is that we press on forward.For in the Blood of Jesus Christ is forgiveness.To have come to follow Jesus Christ and been delivered by the blood and not live for sin but live for righteousness.
For by grace we have been saved Christ crucified and Resurrected.
Thanks for sharing!
My comment is more like a book. I read DESIRING GOD and thought that Piper did a good job making Jonathan Edwards understandable to 21st century Americans, but otherwise I was not greatly affected. Later I learned that Piper wrote a tract "When I Don't Desire God" for people like me. That tract seemed to be saying, "If you don't desire God, go into a room with a Bible and bread and water, and read the Bible till you desire God." Piper does teach that God wishes to produce joy out suffering. God has isolated me more in the past few months than ever before. In this video Piper talks about intense persecution, another form of suffering. I still like my pleasures: sports, music, gardening -- which are gifts from God. But Piper is worth listening to.
I love your teaching