Thrustmaster TS-PC Racer Force Feedback Wheel Review
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2017
- www.thesimpit.com/ presents our detailed review of the Thrustmaster TS-PC Racer Force Feedback Wheel.
Thrustmaster is one of the first companies to ever make a wheel for sim racing on the PC. And since then they have made countless models including wheel for the Playstation, the Xbox and other consoles, pc's and even cross platform models.
The TS- PC Racer is a purpose built for the PC racing wheel that is the strongest and most refined wheel that Thrustmaster has ever produced. In this review we test it out in a variety of different conditions to see how it performs.
**CORRECTION - THE WHEELS GRIP IS REAL SUEDE NOT ALACANTARA**
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Awesome Review .... The best I have ever seen... I bought this wheel and agree with you 100% THANKS
great review Shaun. had the wheel from launch and its still working great. I use fanatec CSR 3 peddles and have just got my racecore24 box so can't wait to get that plunged in.
Swen.
Wow, what a professional review. Thanks.
Really decent review. Excellent work! Liked!
Excelent video. Congratulations!
If I am not mistaken, the last track that you were driving was Summit Point Main track. I have raced there on my car many times. I bought the TS-PC yesterday and looking forward to try the same track on Project Cars 2.
thanks for tudo Review!!!
Shaun, it seems like all your reviews for all the wheels end up being the same. Your pros and cons list doesn't really tell us anything decisive. Could you compare the reviewing wheel to the competitors wheel and then tell us what you would prefer and why? This helps us see valid points in your opinion that we ourselves aren't able to see since we don't have the wheels right there in front of us. It would also help us see what sort of things we should be looking for when purchasing a wheel.
Yea, I caught all that info for the TM side of things. I'd just like to know how it would stack up against the Fanatec side seeing has how they're pretty much competitors. If I was looking for a TM wheel, then I'd of taken away from the review that this is the best one yet. However I currently have no wheel (Well, a CSL Elite will be here tomorrow). So when you watch all of his reviews, yea you might gather that one TM is ahead of another TM, or a Fanatec V2.5 is better than a CSL Elite. But if you're looking to purchase a wheel it'd help to know which one you're buying and what you're missing out on / or what you're gaining over the other models. You might also want to know why you'd choose one over the other or at least hear someones else's opinion on why they chose one over the other, especially if they're as experienced as Shaun is. Just a little bit of extra information like that I feel would help his reviews stretch a lot farther in helping his viewers out. Especially when they don't know anything about the market like myself. I've been watching nothing but wheel reviews for the past month and yea I know the difference between a T150 and a T500RS, but not where the T500RS might fit in when it comes to the CSL Elite. Behind? Ahead? If I can afford a T500RS, where would that put me on Fanatecs line up? Those were the questions I was trying to figure out... because that's exactly what ended up happening to me. Bought a used G920 and found I could have a T500RS for an extra 200 bucks. Bought the T500RS and didn't realize how old the technology was. Didn't look at Fanatec because I thought they were way out of my league. Then found out that for 100 bucks more, I could have a brand new CSL w/ load cell pedals. So returned the T500RS and bought a CSL Elite and that's where I'm at now. Now I'm still wondering if I made the right choice at the 600-700 dollar price point.
This is not a wheel comparison, it's a review. If he compared this to all of the other wheels on the market, it would take hours. That being said, he did make it clear that this is far and away the best Thrustmaster wheel and he explained why he prefers it over the sub $400 wheels on the market, which of course includes more than just Thrustmaster wheels.
I'm not asking for a comparison review with every wheel. Just at the end of his video, where this particular wheel would fall at with it's closest competitors and maybe if he had to chose between them, which one and why. This review is 26 minutes long. What I'm asking for is 2 minutes and it would help a lot of people make better and more informed choices because they can see objectively how an experienced person looks at and judges a wheel.
I wholeheartedly agree. Most of us are looking at a certain price range, maybe even willing to stretch a little bit depending. Comparing wheels even just making pro's and con's totally based on personal preference would be extremely helpful and summarising its position based on its price and what else is out there. Prime example are these wheels in my country at least are pretty damn close in price to the Clubsport Wheel 2.5 - the rim. Do you recommend this wheel over that, if so why? Is the extra money the CSW cost worth it? Even looking at the CSW itself seen as the benchmark for belt driven wheels how does that compare to a DD wheel as its price depending on the wheel attachment starts to get close to a DD wheel cost...
It would be fantastic having someone as experienced as Shaun go through and give his opinion on how the wheel stands by itself and then in the market. It does not have to be long, someone above suggested it would take too long comparing each wheel to every other wheel of course that would be insane to do and not necessary. Comparing it too the wheels above and below its price point makes the most sense, I think we all know a CSW 2.5 is better then a T300... But comparing it to say a CSL elite one run down offers a lot to potential buyers.
DwhNeo Yes.
I had a T300 that went away for warranty repair. While I was organising it I called Thrustmaster support and during the discussion asked out this wheel as the T300 was my second unit as the first had also developed an issue after less than 6 months. The guy told me the TS-PC is more for F1 style sims and not rally. Not sure if he was referring to the fact that it has the F1 style wheel, I don't think so, it seemed like an odd thing to say.. So David Greco just goes with the controller defaults then? :)
tour Channel is very good congratulations
Good review
thanx for this revieuw i buy the ts pc racer
I highly recommend setting "Spring" to 0%. IMO, the constant centering force that applies is awful. I also run "Damper" close to or at 0, but that's personal preference.
Great review Shaun! Love this wheel, glad to see you cover the product :)
Jake Feinerman Hi Jake. I just wanna let you know that is what I thought first too. And then I realized (reading documents), it's actually not a constant force. it's basically a type of signal games send to the driver and then being translated to wheel force. If it was a constant spring force for example like cheap no FFB wheels, then in any game at a stop your wheel would always center. But that's not the case. You are missing out a lot in FFB by disabling spring force. Spring is a type of force you get to feel that is crucial just like the others.
Jake, damper is set by the sim so if you set it at full strength at the wheel the sim setting is then a percentage of your setting, so if it is at 0 in the sim the setting in the wheel settings is irrelevant. But for those of us who actually run a small amount of dampening in the sim because we feel it gives a more realistic force feedback in sims like iRacing it is preferable to set the wheel at full and set our small percentage in the sim. The amount varies but I actually run a small amount of dampening in most sims, to me the amount I run feels more realistic and it doesn't adversely effect my performance.
Well there you go!
My T300RS is very loud and the fan starts even after few minutes of playing with FFB set to 70% only. It is very annoying but i tried to send it back and get replacement and it is the same. So can someone confirm if TS-PC is actually quiet as the PR marketing stuff says? Or is it the same or even worse? thanks
fix it yourself, install a new fan!!
I just ordered this Shaun
For iracing and 24hour races
Just ordered this and coming from DFGT, can't wait!
I'm thinking of making the same switch, I already have a set of Fanatec CSL Elite load-cell brake pedals. I mainly use iRacing to learn a circuit or focus on a specific turn that I'm finding hard. It's just to get the best out of track time.
@@daysofgrace2934 of course now I want a direct drive wheel haha it never ends. Have fun!
@@brigildea I was wondering how much better the steering wheel is in terms of giving you the feel. On track, I can feel the G forces the crest and the troughs that all goes to give you that sensation of speed and how much cornering capacity you have left. I find this hard to gauge in iRacing, I can't feel it. So I'm thing do I need a butt-kicker (transducer), a better steering wheel or VR headset...
@@daysofgrace2934 the two sims that I feel the most with the TSPC is Automobilista2 & rFactor 2. I know exactly what the car is doing and they put a smile on my face. I really can't comment on iRacing as just drove it a few times with the 488 and Indycar but that was with the DFGT. ACC is still somewhat tricky for me when the rear steps out and can't bring it back even with slight wheel corrections and not violent. If I was to get the DD it would just be to keep up with the Jones but can't right now :)
Just so you know, the grips are suede not alcantara, it says on the thrustmaster site.
DPR1980 They're technically alcantara, but not Italian sourced
@@TransistorBased i tasted my grips when i first got them, they taste just like alcantara
FYI & if you hadn't noticed, your audio has some "sizzle" noise, as if the microphone has an intermittent ground problem.
great vid
Thanks for the video Shaun! I wonder if you still have any settings for the TS-PC to make it perform like in this video?
Great qualtiy review here Shaun :-)
I have tested it to,and all the others. I llke that you are covering all the matters - and last and not least remembering the T500 as the other reviews are totally forgetting. TS-Racer have to be compared to the T500 servobase, as is an equal strong servobase.
- My personal seight is that i still like the T500 better - and also find it equal strong and fast re-centering. But i have used the T500 5 years, and i may be honoring it to much :-)
- TS-PC Racer rim is really great, and exiting with the upcoming display to mount :-)
How is does this wheel compare to the CSL Elite by Fanatec? How about the durability of the wheel? I've seen nothing but bad reviews posted on Amazon, walmart, etc. about TM and their T300RS wheel base failing quickly.
TM is realible. But the smaller T300 has had problems with getting warm and fading. This because the power-supply was placed inside the servobody. And this body itselves is quite small.
T-500, TS-PC Racer and T-GT has it outside the body again. Mine T500 has worked perfect 5 years now.
CSL elite and TS-PC are very similar, the feel is slightly different but if you hadn't used either before you would be hard pressed to notice a difference, neither is bad. Very similar reliability too, should last many many years, the T300 issues are specific to that model. If you have any pre-existing ad on rims for either, just go with that brand. If you are starting from scratch, have a look at the ad on rims available, Thrustmasters tend to be cheaper and are decent, Fanatecs are more expensive but higher quality feel. Weigh up how much you would be likely to want to spend in the future and go with that.
Agree!
Thank you guys! You guys are great.
What should I do? Should i buy this or a t300rs? My current t300rs broke and I'm looking to buy a new one but with gt sport out and project cars and asseto corsa on the pc (I know it on ps4 to but there are mods for pc) I don't know what I should buy. Also the t300rs base is considerably cheaper but the tspc wheel has a better ffb.
Nice review, with you re expérience, what you advice me. I ve the alcantara t300 rs édition. i want à open wheel, for f1 and gt. Between ferrari F1 open wheel or tm open wheel ? same quality?
So I have a T500 (from about 2011) that starts to fade on long sessions. Should I replace it with this or a direct drive at 2 to 3 times the price? The DD was my plan, but these new wheels seem to be pretty good.
Hi Shaun, I love your videos. I would love to see a precise rating between 1 and 10 to summarize your overall impressions and allow people to compare one product to another.
Is your game correct fov for your monitors or do you have it set like that just to show the dash cluster
Are we certain that the F1 Ferrari addon wheel is compatible with TS-PC base? This is not evident from the TM website..
Do you think the T GT will be similar to this wheel when it comes to power vs the t300?. I would love a direct drive but I like plug and play for console and the T GT seems like the most powerful wheel available for the PS4
I believe it is the exact same thing + some speaker thing on the back + PS4 compatibility.
I only have one issue with this .When using high ffb the wheel doesn't have soft lock
Nice review! What voltages does your version accept? (ie - 120-240v? or just 120v, or just 220-240v?). Also, any idea yet what the difference between the TS-PC base and T-GT base is? As far as I can tell they're exactly the same?
There's a speaker on the back which gives a vibration feel
The transducer that only works with Gran Turismo game on PlayStation, not sure how relevant it is other than adding to the price, better of with the TS-PC version unless you only have a PlayStation.
Hello friend, I have such a question! is it worth changing t500 rs to ts-ps
Aleksey Karpovich yeah it’s a nice upgrade
I'm waiting on that F1 wheel to be sold separately...
Hello new sub here, great channel! I want to start sim racing on my pc and i need some advice, what would be a good beginner wheel for a newbie? Is it possible to buy a wheel/shifter/pedals package where i can upgrade different parts seperately? as i get more involved in sim racing.
I would recommend a T300 alcantara bundle or the TX Leather edition bundle from Thrustmaster, depending on compatibility you wish (XBox or PS). The bundle includes pedals too, but not the H shifter. Using a TX Leather edition myself, really nice.
Hi,
I just received my TS-PC and I wonder how far you can screw the little metal screw to secure the quick release.
Manuel says that you must stop when you feel resistance, but the quick release unscrew itself and get loose after a while when I'm ingame.
thx
Manuel who?
Screw it in further until it's impossible to rotate the ring. I guess you've worked that out by now! 🤣
The Thurstmaster t300 rs, also features identical specs for the resolution power of 16-bit @ 65,536
Hi. can you tell me for sure that the Ferrari F1 wheel ( t500 f1 wheel ) will fit & work on the ts pc racer ? cheers
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The base seems nice and I can see myself buying it once they add some larger wheels to their line-up. I see no point investing in a good strong base if all I can attach to it are these toyish 28cm wheels.
koen3d they recently released a 30 inch Sparco "rally" style wheel
@@ChrisPBacon9 if I wanted one f1 rim and one GT rim, which F1 is better (default or add-on) and which GT (Ferrari Alcalantra, TN Leather, Sparco, etc
3 years later they are 750$$$
All these years of mainstream manufacturers offering F1 style steering wheels, and still none of them have made a wheel with a clutch paddle.
You're right, its kind of baffling one of them hasn't done one yet. Sam Maxwell customs can custom make you a rim with clutch paddle, also the sim raceway wheel had one but it was a hunk of junk, thats all I know of.
Will G27 pedals work with this?
Great review by the way.
If you are on PC you could get one of those leo bodar adapters to convert them to USB, if you want to plug into the wheel for console use you'd need to get one of the Ricmotech adapters. Can be done though just not out of the box.
Why wont my wheel connect to my pc? Every time i plug it in a message pops up saying that windows does not recognize this device.I made sure to install the driver provided by thrustmaster. When i run the thrustmaster firmware updater a error saying time-out device should had arrived in HID. along with the code (0x34100002). The wheel did work when i first got it and i played about and hour on it then the next day it would not connect.
any chance you are using a usb hub? I even had a certain usb port that the wheel shut down on everytime a race started. Switching ports fixed it.
Can you give me information about drift settings in Assetto corsa game. I can't make some settings and I have a hard time drifting
My system thrusmaster ts-pc
ohh that power supply. Do we get a few Hot Wheels with this as well?
If Thrustmaster AND Shaun Cole says this is the strongest wheel Thrustmaster has ever had, then I'm going with that. Just because it's using less wattage does not mean the motor cannot be stronger or more efficient than the previous one. I know someone said it's a preference, but I would never buy a wheel with paddle shifting fixed to the base. I think if you applied that to a real formula one car and asked the driver to use it, he would look at you and say, "Are you shitting me mate?"
How is Thrustmasters reliability? All these wheel reviews and nothing is ever said about the longevity of the wheels. I know these a new systems, but seeing as how I know NOTHING about wheels... I DO see that Logitecs G27 and G25 are still being sold years later and they're still asking for 250-300 dollars. Do you guys know about the quality of Fanatec or TM? I bought a used T500RS with supposedly less than "3 hours" of use, but the motor is already starting to weaken and fail. When I look at the reviews for TM on Amazon, walmart and ebay- there's been a lot of negative reviews as well.
Also yes. Tesla should create a wheel for us to use. Just rip it from their P95 and throw a wheel on it. Then people would stop complaining about their FBB being too low.
I had a T500 from 2011, still works well with probably a little over 3000 hours on it. Compared to my G27's, my first one (2010) had about 100 hours before the gearing was stripped, second one (replaced under warranty) got about 150 hours before same issue, third one (bought separate) about 80 before it had an issue where it could slip out of calibration with use, related to same issue.
Additionally, this wheel is objectively stronger than the T500. TS-PC has 6nm torque, T500 has 4.4nm.
Trying to decide between this or the Fanatec CSL elite. Any suggestions?
Thanks for the detailed reply mate. Have you previously owned the ts-pc racer,, as most of the feedback I've been reading around the place is very close, but leans towards the ts-pc?
I was thinking of maybe the ts-pc with the csl lc pedals. Don't like the rattling I've heard on the csl wheel. The forces are also supposed to be delivered in a smoother manner on the ts-pc.
Cheers Frank.
I'll keep looking as I don't quite have the cash yet. Thanks for the info.
These days when I race it's mostly on pcars2 really. I tend to avoid public servers altogether and just race with a couple mates as public servers are usually dreadful for rammers etc.
what u buyed TS PC or csl elite? i cant deside eather and i will go elite pedales on both..
Need more F1 option rims for xbox one, please!!!!
other than console compatability and wheel rim change whats the difference with the T-GT?
There's a speaker on the back which gives a vibration feel.
so fuck all. Clubsport 2.5 still better
Yeah and cheaper as well lol
Hi there, I was just wondering what graphics card you have on your PC? I also have Asus monitors and am trying to figure out what I need to get to be able to sim race on three monitors instead of one.
I used old pc power cord I had laying around to get longer pwr cord
Any trouble with it ... Been a few years ...
Open the base if you guys aren't worried about the warranty and wipe the belt and the gear off and the noise and notchiness will go away believe it or not crazy right lol
In %, how stronger is this wheel compared to T300?
Patryk_IT
Depends on who you listen to. Somewhere around 30% to 50% more powerful.
This boy relley be useing the tsm logo and same font
The PSU is a goddamn turbocharger
i Live in Brazil
Hi shaun, ive been watching you for some time now. ive got a few tips for your presenting :D. dont worry its constructive: you have a lot of clutter in front of you with all the wheels blocking the part that makes your shirt stand out. its always a good idea to keep your promotions of your own fully visible imo. The good and the not so good section seem a little slow. viewers are not that unintelligent to understand what you mean (most of your viewers are older then 10 :D). the last thing i noticed is that your microphone sometimes touches your shirt wich is heard on the review. i would change the position of the mic making it not touch your shirt.
hope this helps. i always enjoyed your excessive testing en finding out everything about the product.
Lastly, greatings from the netherlands :D
Shaun I have been a big fan since Darren's time. But don't you think your review is just telling about the wheel like a book. Just a feedback. Maybe make them a bit engaging. Sorry if this offenses you.
before you buy the thrustmaster tspc racer I would read up on it,when I receive mine I used it probably about 2 hours, wen't to use it the next day it was dead totally would not work nothing no power no LED lights not anything,tried hooking it up on another computer,tried another power cord USB cord nothing,$460 seriously I would read up on it and see what the troubles people have had,after wrestling with this thing for about 2 days I plug my old wheel back in thrustmaster TX perfect I hope this help somebody from making the same mistake that I made.
I had a t300rs gte for over 5 years, packed up on me a few weeks ago, bought a t300rs, didn't even last a week, just died mid game AGAIN! Don't know what to do now!
If you put the same size wheel on the 65 watt brushed T500 and the 40 watt brushless TS-PC wheel, set them both at default setting and 100% setting, there is no way that the 45 watt brushless is more powerful or robust.
Of course, it may very well have more accurate force feedback, it is a newer system. My biggest complaint with these newer wheels is the paddles are mounted to the wheel and I really prefer them mounted to the base. Personal preference.
SpatialDragon It ends up feeling like it has essentially the same strength as the T500, but with the smoothness and refinement of the TX/T300. Basically a smooth T500 with more detail apparent in the FFB
The TS-PC outputs 6Nm of Torque, the T500 outputs 4.4Nm. TS-PC is a fair bit stronger, and more detailed too.
Just ordered it from Amazon for $349. Wal-Mart has it for that price too.
It is funny when the pedals are more expensive than the wheel
Got it for $350
No E brake plug is a con and 900 degree
it is 1080 degrees
Tx300???????????????
Thanks for blasting my eardrums with an intro that is 10 times louder than your actual talking
too much plastic for the Price..
Gerd Alzen The whole base is metal
MicroKORGI the wheel looks like a toy you'd give to a 6 year old
If you see it in person it’s nearly all metal.
The Thrustmaster wheel connector is just disgusting... I own a T300, and it gets loose very easily, forcing me to fix the screw all the way in to keep the wheel in place...
daceaki chow you are supposed to tighten
nd now Thrustmaster has a direct drive wheel so ................................. now what ? :)
We'll be reviewing their new DD wheel soon :)
this sounds more like a commercial than a review
paid spokesman much?
Con: Looks like a toy!
They are toys and sim racers are gamers not hobbyists. Even the snobby twat ones 🤣
I highly recommend setting "Spring" to 0%. IMO, the constant centering force that applies is awful. I also run "Damper" close to or at 0, but that's personal preference.
Great review Shaun! Love this wheel, glad to see you cover the product :)
were do you set the spring setting and damper etc ? thanks
Ok apologies for the stupid question ... how do you decide how much damping to run in each sim and do you by sim or by car in each sim ?
in the Thrustmaster driver settings