Thrustmaster TS PC Racer 2 Year Review In 2020
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2020
- A 2 year in review of the Thrustmaster TS PC Racer, is it worth a punt in 2020?
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Apologies the T-GT is of course PC compatible and the Ferrari edition TS-PC doesn't come with pedal direct from TM!
Karl do you race with vr as i got the psvr a month ago and can’t play racing games now unless it’s vr as 2D feels shite now. Only problem is that I’m limited to 2 games drive club vr and dirt rally. Gt sport is just demo in vr unfortunately. Would love to get a pc as they seems to be loads of titles supporting vr like assetto corsa canyon dlc free roam in vr 😍 just don’t know enough about pc atm like what graphics card ect. You’re need to run sim racing games smoothly and sounds like problems connecting psvr to pc so would have to buy a rift or something which is was more as I got my psvr off gumtree for £100 in excellent condition. my g29 feels great in vr so I’m happy with it for now just wanna step up to a pc now but don’t feel technical enough to know what I’m doing properly. Think I need to do some research. I don’t want to spend more than £300 on a second hand gaming pc if that’s even possible lol
@@realtalk9195 I get too much motion sickness so very very rarely.
A second hand VR capable PC is at least £700 and a Rift or Vive £200.... if you're lucky, prices are stupid right now.
Yeah I got motion sickness with my sons Vive playing just some random game, not even racing.
I’m not even gonna try racing or flying with it.
Hi Karl, I'm in the quest for a new wheel after my T300rs finally died 2 weeks ago after 4 years of reliable fun use, great value considering. Could I ask what website you where on in this video please or any other good UK websites? Thank you mate.
Love your review by the way and subscribed, good man.
👍
Great review again Karl, easily my favourite reviewer of sim/tech gear on RUclips. Keep up the great work
Wow, thanks mate! :)
This channel is the best! Thanks for the info and it’s definitely coming along
I appreciate that!
Karl Gosling I just found your channel today and really enjoy your reviews. Subscriber for sure here.
I’m new to all this simulation stuff and still working on getting needed items. Haven’t decided between Thrustmaster or Logitech, leaning towards G29’s for price and reliability though I’ve heard t300 is the way to go.....who knows!
I also want to play truck simulator and drift eventually as well as race.
5000 subs and loads more comments! Heaps of people turning to u now as a trusted source, especially for the entry level gear. Great work mate!
Thanks Stephen, you've been around a while now mate! :)
Just came across your reviews, love them, keep it up my friend, excellent content, thank you !!!
Thanks, will do!
I like this style of review! Great work. :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
I've just upgraded from a g920 to fanatec v2.5 base, v3 pedals and formula v2 wheel. It is on another level to g920 and so happy I upgraded. All bought from ebay individually because of stock issues. It cost about £1200 total but I think I am set for a very long time now. The wheel had magnetic shifters that cost £120 already installed so I think I got a good deal for the wheel. I asked you for advice between CSL elite or v3 pedals and happy I went with your suggestion of v3.
Nice review , pretty explanatory once again. In fact, because of you I decided to purchase the Playseat Challenge :) , and I love it. I'm not playing to often racing games and also I don't have to much space for a racing rig. I bought recently the Thrustmaster T300 RS GT Edition second hand but new (one month old and barely used)at a very good price.
PS: Also I'm thinking to buy the Sparco R383 wheel , I like a more realistic wheel( a bigger diameter) and Sparco R383 is big enough - 13’’/33 cm.
The R383 is great!
Hey mate, been enjoying your reviews. You deserve more views!!
Thanks mate! :)
I fucking love this guy, his videos are so friendly and very good for beginners in this area. Thank you @Karl u're the best.
Very kind mate thanks!
Great review, couldn't agree more had the TS-XW a couple of years no issues great base and wheel for Supercars. 28 degrees at 10.30am guess the good thing is the heat brings you a bit closer to looking like an Aussie. Subbed, cheers mate.
lol mate I need air con in there right now!
Cool I'll try the TS with the V8s next, just been punting around Bathurst in the GT Camaro on ACC, very fun and satisfying 👍
I have no clue how you don't have over 100k subs bc ppl are missing out!!!
Channel is only 8 months old, I'm getting there! :)
Mate, next time plz show us the rig from different camera angles. Btw love ur content and keep up the good work.
I'll do a rig walk around at some point mate.
Good video. Exactly what i needed explaining to me. New to sim racing looking to upgrade from a tmx wheel, and all these different wheels and prices were confusing me.
Glad it helped
On the strength of this i managed to get hold of the TS-XW Racer Sparco P310 Competition Mod
& a set of T-LCM all with with less that 6hours usage for £375 for my son..A big jump up from the Logitech G920 I can't wait to see him plug this into his Xbox Series X. Just gotta get a shifter. Thanks so much for all your unbiased reviews :) Great job !
A big upgrade mate for sure!
The TS-XW you showed at the start is part of their summer sale, and it is in stock. It's a great bargain at the moment! I just picked up a TS-PC Racer during Le Mans Virtual a few weeks ago when they had 24% off. Disappointingly it not working well!
The TS-PC with the Ferrari 488 wheel doesn't come with pedals, its the same as the Open Wheel TS-PC. The TS-XW does indeed come with the T3PA Pedals.
Great review though, very informative and straight to the point.
What a great review. I was searching for a good comparison of tge Thrustmaster TX Base und tge Fanatec CSL. You sum it up in a video and helped me a lot because the fanatec is way to expensive in my opinion and everyboy else got a little bit blinded by the price and immediately thought it's better then
Glad it was helpful!
Just subscribed for your content, which is very informative!
Based mainly on your videos, I bought (for PC platform)
- Thrustmaster TS300 Ferrari alcantara
- GT Omega ART (will apply your stifness mods for sure).
I got it without seat, looking for Mercedes SLK or Mazda RX8 used seat for this (can get it for more or less $80).
Cheers!
Thanks for the good reviews!
Awesome place to start mate, you will not be disappointed! :)
But yeah defineilty do the mods to stiffen it up, night and day difference! :)
@@KarlGosling While waiting for the ART, I'm getting one of those RX8 seats:
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I think it should perfectly fit the build, and it's whapping $70 :D
Can't wait to put it together!
Aside from the great content and commentary you have the best shirts
hahaha cheers! :)
Facts!
Another great review/video Karl!! Thanks so much for sharing with us, really like your videos, honest and to the point!! Was wondering what you used as your wheel cause you do do videos on the Logitech gear.. Thanks again!!!! W
Glad you enjoyed it!
The mode button also allows you to change the degrees of rotation on the fly. Hold the mode button and left or right on the d pad to change the degrees of rotation higher or lower.
Also with the newest firmware hold the mode button and press the gear down to change from standard pedals to T-LCM pedalode
I bought myself one of these wheels at the end of 2019 and I love it. I've put hundreds of hours of use on it since then and it really is my baby.
Super expensive though. My wheel with the compatible shifter cost me 1800 of my australian dollarydoos.
Same .... to a t !!!!!
i got the wheel and base with the turbo thing for £350
@@cory4071 yeah but those are pounds, not Australian dollarydoos.
Nice video again. I have had the basic t300rs with 2 pedal system. Not really worried about the 3 pedal and gearshift, just using the paddle shift at mo. Nothing has gone wrong and the 2 pedals seem fine. The tsxw I was looking at upgrading to and it comes with 3 pedal basic set, but I heard horror stories of the spring coming out. 🙄. They never mentioned that you can use basic 2 pedals on the newer tsxw, but I wondered if it would work, incase the newer 3 pedals busted. I really don't know whether to bother🤔. If they fitted on the new one, it wouldn't bother me. The other issue I have, is I thought about upgrading the wheel, but again hear horror stories of alcantara wear. My wheel is in like new condition after years and again.....you wonder is it worth the hassle 🥺👌
great review, really helped!
Glad it was helpful!
@@KarlGosling ended up following your review going forward the TS-PC with Ferrari 488 wheel. Now just trying to decided what pedals. Not sure a can justify the club sport v3 but CSL elite seem like a good option... thoughts?
CSL Elite Load Cell would be a good option.
The T-GT pedals are probably the best version of the T3PA as they have (cast aloominun!) arm's instead of the usual plastic ones. I use a SimRacingSolutions load cell with mine, excellent, can't recommend it enough. Fanatec products are all very well made, over engineered perhaps. I agree there's not much between either a TX or T300 and CSL and from the little experience I've had on the CSW of TS-PC seemed roughly the same, neither stood out at being very different anyway. (Don't know about pedals, never used the Fanatec's) I was surprised that the TX wheelbase is actually heavier than the CSL, and even if the Fanatec has better presentation and fancier materials, in use I prefer the feel of the TX, not sure why, just feels more "natural" to me. I'm looking to get a TS-PC, as there's no denying it has a better build quality, and I wouldn't have to run it at 100% hopefully! Great vid as per usual, thanks.
I have the TX servo & ive been hunting high & low for the TM open wheel addon, hopefully by the end or near end of this damn pandemic, they should have them back in stock. I did get the ferrari wheel but its too much like a toy with all those stickers on it, it has great button functions, but im too old to be playing with toys....
Hey watched a few of your videos now.
Entertaining and informative keep it up.
However I have been trying to work out what GT omega rig you've been using?? Can you do a review on it??
Am looking at the GT omega rigs but undecided which at the moment. 👍
I will do mate, it's the ART cockpit.
Thanks for the video - can you please share your experience with the fan noise of this wheel and how loud it is? I have T300RS and it can get annoyingly loud when the fans kick in and i've read that TS-PC racer and even the fanatec stuff like elite or clubsport etc have similar issue that after like 30-60 minutes of playing the fans start up and get very loud. What are your experience with this? My T300RS is almost dead and soon i need to buy new wheel, but since i am content creator i would love to have a wheel that is decent but also not that loud as my T300RS. Thanks
I don't think I've ever heard the fan whilst playing the game sounds must mask it.
" Noctua" is your friend
@Karl Gosling Good view and video. I was brought into sim racing by a friend of mine who has a fanatec csw v2 and all other goodies. I tried sim racing on his wheel and ordered me a thrustmaster ts-xw around September for 650 €. I should say after driving with fanatec, it looked like a toy to me, so I refunded it and got me a fanatec csw v2.5 with csl wheel and csl pedale. But fanatec is like a black hole, it sucks in your wallet. It's January and I have fanatec shifter, fanatec clubsport v3 pedals and even turned my simple wheel stand to a full cockpit. I don't know if it's positive or negative point of view, but I am glad that I entered sim racing. IMO, it doesn't matter what equipment you have, just get one which matches your budget and start the race. It's REALLY fun.
Perfect view point mate! :)
Funny I was about to buy one of these when they came back in stock at currys yesterday but didn't make it in time.
Regarding your videos You should do some dirt rally live streams I'd be interested to see your skills 😉
lol or lack of mate! lol
I ended up getting a Fanatec Elite PS4 wheel base as Thursmaster is out of stock everywhere in Australia. Look forward to your review on the GT omega Titan rig as Im currently looking to buy a sim rig and Im leaning towards the GT Omega Art but no stock in Australia but Im also interested in the Titan but no reviews anywhere on it.
GT Omega are out of stock on most things right now.
Hello Karl.
Enjoy your videos they are very informative and the down to earth approach is refreshing.
I wanted to quickly ask (not sure if I missed it if you mentioned during the video) have you had any issues at all with your wheel base?
No mate no issues at all.
@@KarlGosling thank you for getting back to me so quuckly, u appreciate it 👌🏾
Hi Karl, would be great if you could review your Clubsport V3's The "rumble" motors on the brake & gas pedal, do you use them? Do they help? I'm using T3PA's with a load cell right now and am debating whether to go with one of the Fanatec sets. I like a very firm pedal with minimal throw, but not crazy heavy. I have serious health issues and have concerns over the force required to operate the Fanatec or T-LCM load cells. Mine is only 20 kgs and I find that's plenty. Are the Fanatec's really that much harder to depress? Thanks.
I'll add it to my list of videos mate! :)
Rumble motors are useless, you can barely feel them even in just socks so no I don't use them.
It's as heavy or light as you want it to be, you can adjust the stiffness and also calibrate it lighter/heavier too.
Just subbed. Your videos are really good. Just a question, what handbrake is that you use?
This was a DIY job mate.
Thanks for the video. What configuration of the steering wheel do you use? both in the control panel of the steering wheel itself, and in the game settings. (It would be for Forza Horizon 4) I have the same steering wheel and I am not able to control the car going straight if but when braking it gets out of control. Thank you, I await your answer.
LMAO - LOVE the way you keep saying that the Playstation compatible gear in Playstation ONLY when it CLEARLY shows on your screen PS4 & PC or even PS3, PS4 & PC.
However, overall I love your reviews, trials, etc & the way you're just open & "ordinary", not "someone special", just an ordinary "Joe Bloggs" wanting to share your experiences.
Keep it Karl, great job.
Oh yeah! How did i miss that?! Lol
Have you ever tried turning Spring to zero and damping to between 0-15%? I mostly race on tarmac in rF2 and it makes a massive difference, keeping the FFB from clipping at higher strength settings and allowing more details thru. I know you're a rally guy but it might be worth a look (I found it also allows the wheels to turn faster)
I leave my TM control panel settings pretty much stock bar putting the overall strength to 100% (this doesn't set it to 100% it just makes all the power/torque available should you want it, which you do! lol), everything else I tune on a game per game basis.
Even though the T-GT has more torque and feels slightly better than the T300 I couldn't justify paying €799 for it when I can get the T300 base for €279. I already have a 599 Evo wheel rim for my TX and I'm using my CSR Elite pedals with basher boards adapter to connect to my wheel base. I'm using the pedals connected to the Thrustmaster because I also do some console racing. Another reason I can't justify buying the T-GT is I don't play enough racing games and the transducer on the back of it only works with GT sport.
In my opinion if they brought the T-GT wheel base on its own without the transducer and sold it for €350 - €400 I would be tempted though.
Just got a ts-pc racer 488 edition and t3pa pedals for £310! Cannot wait to finally feel something in simracing 🤣🤣
Wow such a great video! Thank you! Do you think that it fits on the Next Level Racing F-GT LITE?
Yes it should.
I was close buying this upgrading from my T300 a few years ago, but went the Fanatec route.
Which wheel did you get ?
@@radyon955 CSW 2.5, now I'm on a DD1
Hi, great video. I would like to ask what do you think about used Thrustmaster wheels. Is there any common flaw with Thrustmaster bases or wheels to be aware of when buying used?
Not that I know of, just usual wear and tear.
Does the Ferrari 488 challenge wheel Fanaleds work for the T500 and T300 on ps4?
Thanks Karl, nice review 👍 Recieved a TS-TW yesterday and had the chance to drive this morning.....holy hell it is a very very verynice upgrade over the G29. The G29 is pretty good but this is on another level for control and feel. Pity the pedals are rubbish, they'll have to do until the load cells turn up. Anyone looking to move 'up' highly recommend if you can get your hands on a TS. Here in Australia they are thin on the ground with inflated prices. Found one on Amazon for $400au less than everyone else was charging, couldnt not buy 😳. There is stock around for models below the TS if anyone outside AU is looking.. Enjoy!
So happy I found this you explain stuff so good and I fully understand.. Would you say its a good upgrade from the g920? I was going for the thrustmaster tx but its out of stock so going for this one.. Can I play forza with this base? Thanks
Yes, a massive upgrade!
@@KarlGosling I got it and picked up some second hand tp3a pros for £70 can't wait now.. Thanks for getting back to me
Wahooooo .. first view!!!
Bloody Awesome review Karl...Your the best ...
I just bought this last week and upgraded from a G920 ...The difference is just Totally Amazing how much better the Ts pc is in every way but the forces just leave you gobsmacked from a G920 to this wheel..
Question though do you leave it powered all the time and plugged into USB...
I notice if you do it has a slight fan noise constantly on inside that never turns off and I'm worried that would lower the life of it...So I have been unplugging it when not using????? What do you do ???????
I power down when not in use mate.
Ive also just upgraded (expecting in 2 days ) from my g920 to TS XW , I nearly got the TX version (cheaper) I wanna ask if the road feel and loss of traction etc is a lot more prominent in Assetto costs competizione ?
@@Skippy-id9yt No Way ...ACC has the best feel on my TS PC Racer..
My settings are all 100% in Thrustmaster control panel for all games...900 steering lock
ACC
65 gain
0 min force
100 Dynamic Dampen
30 Road ...I like alot of road feel
900 steering lock
craig dixon ......cheers mate , hopefully my TS XW is here soon ,im upgrading from G920 also , so I think I’ve made the correct decision then , Thought about using logitech pedals with adapter from ricmotech ,but maybe ill wait a month or two and upgrade pedals also.........(i found assetto corsa cometizione ffb far weaker than Assetto Corsa with g920 on xbox , ive heard PC is better with the logitech, i think that is what your on )
@@Skippy-id9yt No problem dude ...Karls vids are very informative and top notch..
Yeah I. On PC and the TS Pc is powerfull as on PC ....I love it and would say you are in for a freak out how much power and presicion coming from the G920..
It will feel like a Weak Toy and I'm not kidding..
I have the T3pa pro pedals and love them .....ACC is my Favorite then PC2 then Rfactor 2 just for my V8 supercars
The fanatec wheel base you refer to is their clubsport v2.5, and not their CSL wheel base. The CSL wheel base is only £349 and can be bundled together with a steering wheel for £499.
Sorry yes I meant to say CSW.
great video sir
Thanks
Karl thank you for the vids just found your channel and subed. Great info, I play American truck simulator, farming simulator, and a few racing games. I have a tmx which just died, th3pa pro, th8a would this wheel work good for these types of games or do I need to look for something else? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Yes it will work mate, everything is USB... it would be a BIG step up from a TMX!
@@KarlGosling Thank you, I have to say you make the most informative videos I have seen on youtube, just watched the one about clutch pedal setup absolutely awesome.
I have had the ts-pc racer ferrari 488 edition for about a month now, great wheel as an upgrade from my 10 year + G25. The cooling fan on mine has been rather noisy since ive had it, very noticable as it starts up as soon as I start driving and sounds a bit like a hard drive rumbling away sorting out files. I noticed that you never mentioned anything about fan noise in this review, now worried there may be something wrong with the fan like the bearings in it are faulty.
I have my in game sounds on realistically loud through a big system so would never hear anything mate.
I have heard the fan a couple of times after finishing a session but it's not noticeably loud, at least to me anyway lol
"Noctua" is your friend .... do not put the ffd to the bottom
@Karl Gosling Hi karl great review love the channel , do you think i should get a ts pc for £280 new or a cammus 15 nm ? im worried the cammus drivers and game support might be sketchy. Thanks mate the cammus is about £550 ish shipped
I have a Cammus here but have not yet tested it so can't say mate sorry.
@@KarlGosling ok cool hope you find the time soon mate your opinion is valuable. cheers
where can I get those black dryer vent hoses:)
Is the playseat challenge is good ?cause i need something you can fold. Is it stronger? Cause i have buying the ts xw sparco
Yes it will be fine.
Hello, i ear a cracking noise when i use the ferrari 488 challenge wheel from the tspc racer, do you Know what is this annoying noise?
I do not sorry.
getting same myself after a month or so search for ts pc racer rattle
That shirt is *B R I L L I A N T*
lol Thanks! :)
Just paid 1000 bucks Canadian for the ts-pc Ferrari, I REGRET NOTHING!
I've got a t300 for more than 5 years , do you think the ts-pc worth the upgrade, for us Canadian the Fanatec are so expensives, for the ts-pc Price we only have the elite not the 2.5 csw
@@actarusqc I’ve had a ts pc racer for a bit too now. As for fanatec I feel as Canadians we should just save up and splash the cash at once from the fanatec site as that’s the cheapest option to get fanatec for us
@@krossreach7273 I have now a Simagic and I am very satisfy, very good quality / price
Hey Karl! What handbrake do you use? Also, What's with the tube around your rig? :)
Home made handbrake and the tubing is for my wind sim.
@@KarlGosling cool! Do you have a video on the handbrake? If not, do you plan on making one?
Guys, I bought a Trustmaster steering wheel (TS-XW Racer) and on the package it says “110V - 220V Version”, but I couldn't find where to change this voltage. On the source comes a 220V-240V label"… I don't know what to believe lol
I live in Canada, the TS-XW is retailing on Amazon Canada for $930!!!
I currently have a TX and would like to upgrade - but I find it ridiculous how you need to buy this as a set (pedals, wheel and base).
I would like the option to buy the base alone, as I already have the Sparco Rally wheel and T3PA-Pro pedal set.
Do you happen to know if TM has plans to release the TS-XW base as a stand-alone unit?
Yeah not cheap mate! :(
I'm sorry but no I don't.
Upgrade your pedals before your wheels, for us Canadian the Fanatec are really expensives, but the elite CSL with loadcell worth every $, best $$/performance for Canadian of course
Looks like they're now selling the base separately: www.thrustmaster.com/products/ts-xw-servo-base.
How do you make led’s work in game??
Does Steam or other Online host games support Thrustmaster TS PC or any other Racing wheels?
I own about 12 racing/driving titles through Steam,and they all support wheels.
hello does this Ts Xw feel better than G29 on games like dirt 2.0 WRC 10 ??? thanks
Night and day mate yes!
You sit right on top of your rig lol like really close to that wheel for how big you are but yesh man you are right people live thrustmaster 75 percent fo them won't even go DD due to how they are so used to how the thrustmaster feels and I have to say I understand why put it to you this way I don't gel with my cswv2.5 as much as I even did with a t300rs the thrustmaster wheels have a specific wheel not to emotion they don't have oscillations down straights which is nice lol but the dampening thrustmaster has that cones from the belt imo helps that weight feel and I love that csw tries getting away from that I don't think belts should try and be a DD but I had to go thriugh so many settings so many hours with drivers to get the csw set up just right and I still prefer thrustmaster even if it isn't as smooth as crazy as that sounds lol so I get why people stay with thrustmaster they are plug n play and easy to set up also and they have newer pedals the tclm those are insanely good pedals for sure better then the csl elite pedals eith the load cell even lol
Great video mate, only have my g29 for 3months and the mrs is getting p*ssed off with the amount of noise it makes...are the Logitech pedals plug and play with the thrustmaster base unit?
Mine doesn't make much noise just the odd clank or two on kerbs but it's pretty quiet.
No you need a little £10 adapter.
Kay Spencer yup agree with you - when driving for “grip” but when drifting then it can be pretty loud at times
Karl Gosling thanks mate
Hey man, what's your opinion on this Vs the CSL DD?
I don't have a CSL DD yet but in theory that will be better.
Hey Karl if you can can you do a wheel setting for g920 and g29 for assetto corsa competizione if you have the game please
G29 for ever..I think..lol ..nice video
Will do mate.
@@KarlGosling much appreciated 👌
Hello, I have a question about the Ts PC Racer. Is it normal that the fan turns on after a few minutes in the game and continues to run continuously.
Yes, thats how it keeps the motor cool.
@@KarlGosling
Thanks
Have you a Setting Video in your Channel, for the TS PC Racer Control Panel and in Game ( ACC , AM2 )
I've just Ordered today the TS XW (Sparco rim) and the open wheel for it also , I nearly bought the TX version with the p310 wheel (sold separately now) and the open wheel , but decided to buy the TS model, the better of the two (I hope) ...just here to convince myself I've made the right decision...ha ha...(it cost me $1399.00 Australian dollars) , and the open wheel was $299.00 Au ....thanks for review mate 👍, they say it has better road feel in-game? As in the weight shift mid corner etc?
In my experience it's just a little more powerful, more torque.
@@KarlGosling thanks mate , what swayed my decision was Sim racing garage (your review helped also ) showed internals on both the Tx and the TS ,and it has thicker belts and seems to be built sturdier to take some more "punishment" (maybe owing to the extra force it's capable of ? ) , ...cheers 👍
@@KarlGosling Got my TS XW wheel today.....finally and yes the brake pedal feels dead, as In no resistance then you hit the rubber bit ,gonna buy logitech adapter from ricmotech ...but ACC with this wheel is a massive step up from logitech g920 ...I can feel so much more .....thanks again for doing the reviews mate 👍🇭🇲
@@Skippy-id9yt the most powerful is the ts or the xw? Thank you
@@manlioliguori5353 it's the TS XW (Xbox and PC and the (TS PC is the same wheel but only for PC ) which is the top Thrustmaster base , and the other wheel is the TX which is a step down for Xbox and PC
I would love to upgrade to Fanatec but they seem to hate New Zealand and refuse to ship here. The TS-PC is the highest end wheel you can get here.
Oh wow! I didn't know that.
Does anyone know what differences there are between TX Racing Wheel and TS-XW?
Yes, the TX-XW and TS-PC have a stronger motor than the TX or T300, other than that they behave the same.
I would've considered this over the g920 I just got but thrustmaster anything is out of stock. I don't understand why thrustmaster doesn't have their items properly stocked. I feel as much money as they've made due to covid stock should be the easiest thing to maintain.
Also I heard a massive amount of clicking from what I feel is the wheel in this video. That or it's the fanatec shifter. Something Is making an uncomfortably clicky sound and personally if I'm spending that kind of money I need it to not be clicky at all. Sounds like direct drive is my only option for that. Not sure why this technology is as expensive as it is though.
It's like comically more expensive then normal car parts and I'm still unsure why
Shifter mate, I did mention it in the video, wheel is basically silent.
Holy shit u do in bits xD
Hi Karl Great review. I was thinking of getting the Thrust-master TS PC Racer and after reading loads of reviews and watching you tube reviews decided against it due to reliability issues. I just saved up a little more and bought the Fanatec CSL Elite bundle it was a lot of money but in sim racing you really do get what you pay for regarding quality. Keep up the great work mate and hope your channel grows as you deserve it.
Holy hell I never had the money for a Thrustmaster setup......I have a question Karl. How much of a difference is there between a G29 and a TS-PC ? How much better is it apart from detachable rims ?
HUGE Difference, better in every single way mate.
@@KarlGosling wow okay. I am currently doing some project with a G29....not AMAZING as I think a lot has done it but where I live it is like magic to people if you show them 😂.....
Doing a detachable rim setup with it. Will have to do for now I guess. Thanks for the reply mate. Keep doing what you are doing. There is no better channel with regards to sim racing than yours. Thumbs up to you.
Is that rally wheel made of Alcantara?
Suede mate.
@@KarlGosling great thank you! Luckily that was the answer I wanted to hear
So the T-GT is 800.00 USD when I can find it but I can find the t300gt for 300.00 that difference in price would you go with the T300GT
Definitely!
@@KarlGosling what about 360.00 for the t300 Gt I'm gonna be using it for light racing and mainly American Truck Simulator
Is it better then the G29
hi mani loveyour vids i have a thrustermaster the one on xbox and pc it finds the steering wheel but not my pedels ? if you no a solution for this that would be very great love your vids keep them up :) ps its the thrustermaster tmx force
Sorry mate I don't have a TMX so no experience with that.
@@KarlGosling ok thanks anyway love your vids
That TS-PC/XW doesn't come with a peddle set...that's another 150-200£..second the Fanatec has a nicer quick release system,has a much better in depht settings from the wheel itself instead of going into the game's UI...has a good peddle set included(without the brake mod)...if you order de base for Playstation and the wheel for Xbox you have a better chance of selling it (because the Playstation chip is inside the base and for Xbox the chip is inside the wheel)...overall you can sell it towards PC,Playstation or Xbox...and it has a rev counter on it's wheels where Thrustmaster only rev counter wheel is for the PC...i would say overall the package of Fanatec is better and there is mainly the price difference...good review tho👍
Remember this video is old, the prices etc and what they come with were correct at the time of filming mate :)
@@KarlGosling i know...you can buy the TS-PC/XW base now without any wheel...but still these wheels are the best belt driven out there.
G920 ftw!
I’m looking to upgrade from a Logitech g920 to this, would you say it’s worth it?
Yes (IMO), smoother and stronger!
For a few quid more, go with the fanatec, much better product, better service and better ffb by far! TM pedals are shit and good pedals WILL improve your driving and fanatec v3 pedals are damn good! Save yourself heartache and headaches and go with the best aka Fanatec! It will put a smile on your face! Cheers
It's defineilty worth it!
My TS-PC racer stopped working just after couple months of using, I've heard that the support from TM can be quite obnoxious, hope that is not true..
Support isn't good from what I've heard either, thankfully I've not needed it!
I've heard that support in the USA is really bad ,but in Australia it's just the normal deal if under warranty (send back and either fix or replace etc) some sim you tubers have talked about it
Do you prefer the fanatec shifter
To the TH8A? Yes for sure!
what type of TV are you using
In this video an old 50" 1080p LG Plasma
Nice summary of the different options a somewhat more serious simracer has to choose from.
Quick question: could you share your wheel settings in the TM app as well as in-game? I have a hard time finding the sweet spot in AC as well as Forza 4H..
Your info on Fanatec stuff is mostly wrong. The csl base is £350/399 depending on which compatability you want, and is the cheapest belt drive, the clubsport 2.5 is their premium belt drive, which is £550. Then it moves to direct drives.
The csl F1 bundle with pedals is only £50 than the TSXW is direct from Thrustmaster.
You can literally see me reading it directly from their website at the time of filming.
@@KarlGosling obviously you've misread it. As the csl is not £550, it's 350, or 399 if you get the PS4 version. The clubsport is £550. So a csl elite with a wheel and pedals can be had for a little more than the Thrustmaster. As I should also point out the 488 does not come with pedals.
Not meaning to have a go, but if you're going to pass on information to help others make an informed decision, make sure the info is accurate.
The TS-PC racer is AMAZING!
specially with the Sparco P310 rim
I've gotten hundreds of hours in iracing American Truck Simulator and other Racing games.
Also got Fanatec V3 pedals they're AMAZING !!!!!!!!
you dont get pedals with the 488 ts pc btw
Yeah I noticed mate, apologies!
how dare you betray your logitech g920, after all of the videos you've done on it. Karl i'm ashamed :(
lol I'm a sneaky Thrustmaster and Fanatec user... shhh don't tell my Logitech!!
Got the TS-PC Ferrari 488 Challenge Edition for 177€
Bargain!!
From what I’ve seen online apparently the tmx pro is better than the tx
The TMX is an entry level wheel at half the price, more comparable to a G920.
A little bit late to the comments but I don't think the CSW is a good comparison for the TS-PC. I think the CSL Elite is a better comparison.
All I can hear is the bloody gear stick 😂
Loud isn't it! lol
Who else watches these videos even though they can't afford any of this sim racing kit
The T GT is also PC compatible mate
It is yes, don't know how I missed that! lol
I got the ts pc racer Ferrari 488 challenge edition for 490 euro’s new and I love it
I love these longer reviews because to me six min vids from fuckin fortnite youtubers who don’t know what there on about are useless 😂
So the t300 is 3999 but what stones, pounds, imperial credits, oh wait surely it must be russian money.
im so splittet between fanatec and trustmaster....
You'll be happy with either when it comes to the wheel base IMO.
10 mins into this video and you are still talking about goddamn prices!!
Yes, because unless you know the prices for comparison the rest of the video is meaningless.
@@KarlGosling But i know the prices and all the specs of all the wheels. What i didn't know is how it stood the test of time and use (or abuse). :)
I can't assume that everyone does though can I mate :)