Thrustmaster TS-XW Racer Sparco Steering Wheel - Review
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Is this the best Thrustmaster wheel ever made?
This is our full review of the new Thrustmaster TS-XW Racer steering wheel. This is the strongest and highest performance wheel from Thrustmaster yet and it also includes Xbox One comparability as well. The wheel was made in partnership with Sparco and features a Sparco inspired P310 steering wheel. The combo set also comes with T3PA pedals and is ready to race out of the box.
In this video we give the wheel combo a good look over and then cover the full installation of the wheel. We then move on to driving it and seeing how it really performs on track. And then we finishing things off with the good, the bot so good and the bottom line on this new wheel from Thrustmaster.
cheers man i start a sim racing job tomorrow and needed some knowledge on the wheels they use and this was SOOO detailed, love your work
Now this is what I call a detailed and compreshensive review, nothing missed out, thanks!!
13:21 Doggo seems to like the pedals though! :'D
11:04 - Tinder profile pic?
hahaha lol
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16:15 That notchiness you are feeling is the notches on the belt. I feel it with my Thrustmaster TX too and I felt it with the FANATEC belt drive wheels I had too. The only way to do away with this is do what Fanatec done with the CSW and use a notch free belt drive system. The notched belt drive system is there to stop the belt from slipping.
He should watch sim racing garage to understand what’s going on underneath the covers
Thanks for taking the time and effort to do a comprehensive review, Shaun. As a newbie in the world of quasi-sim racing (l.e., an Xbox One guy who likes Forza 7 and Dirt 4), I found it very helpful when you carefully explained the reasons for your evaluations. Within the next couple of months I hope to get this wheel+pedals bundle, a TH8A shifter, and a Next Level Racing F1/GT cockpit. Thanks again for your guidance and suggestions in this video review!
the simpit is one of the best simracing channels for me and they take time to answer the many mails they get so thank you sir
The best review of this product. All my questions are answered. Nice job !
Bit late to the party but just looking at this as i'm thinking of getting a rim. In doubt between the openwheel or this one.
Btw, if you'e playing rally while using the flappy pedals to shift. Don't put the handbrake on a button, put it on your clutch pedal that you're not using anyway while flapping. Chances are while pulling a handbrake turn your wheel will be moving quite a bit, as will the button. Just put on on the clutch pedal. Works much better.
This wheel is amazing probably best one you can get now a days ( tgt2 is impossible to find)
Great review Shaun, love that wheel
I've wanted this wheel ever since it came out, watch this review and went screw it I'm getting one.
How do you like it it? Thinking og getting it
i seen it had a lot of overheating issues on reviews have you had this problem? I'm between this and the fanatec csl elite
Just bought this wheel super excited as I was running an old Logitech Wingman til now... got V3 Pedals and this wheel feeling MEGA upgraded lol
Just got this yesterday. Tried it for a couple of hours, and my first impressions coming from a TX is that is much stronger and smoother. Reactions of the car like over/under steer, are so much precise and closer to reality. And the wheel itself blew my mind. I had the Ferrari 599xx wheel, but this one is in another level. You can see and feel it is a real race car wheel and the overall quality is just amazing. The pedals, I installed the conic rubber mod (never tried it before) and I felt that breaking in cars without abs like the iRacing Ford GT, is now much more progressive and real car like. Very positive impressions until now.
Marco Esteves Stop buying toy parts Marco!!! lol.... you know couldn't resist. JK.... Enjoy your setup, maybe get the CSP V3 to pair it with your wheel. You'll need a Basherboard CPX to make it work. That's what I had when I was using the TX Wheel. It worked fantastic. Well worth the money and you'll feel the difference in the brake. That Sparco wheel is badass!
T1MERUNN3R 414 for 2 days I had the Clubsport V2,5/the Porsche 918 wheel and the V3 pedals in my shopping cart at the fanatec.com But damn, 1300€!!! Wtf!? This Thrustmaster is the half way for me for a direct drive. Maybe in a couple of years...
Marco Esteves I totally Agree! Thrustmaster has come a long way and their customer service is Really good. I believe that Fanatec put the pressure on and TM has stepped up their quality. You have a Fantastic wheel base and rim to match your 599, hope you enjoy your investment, Happy Racing and get many Podiums!
T1MERUNN3R 414 thanks bud 👍🏻
At last! I have missed these type of reviews!
This review was insane. Nice work!
Great review! Congratulations.
Thanks for your time and work.
Thanks for the review. Its great the base can be bought separately now so that I can buy my chosen rim and pedal set.
Great Video BTW! your voice sounds just like Steve-O kinda freaked me out lol keep up the great work!
Wheel rim now available to buy seperate and also made compatible for T300 bases.
I just bought this wheel after watching this review and a few others. I've played sims since Sega GT 2002 (Xbox) on a controller. Played every Forza. I feel like I always cap out at a certain point. Can't wait to try the wheel and some of the better sims.
I am the same so after 3 months of writing this how do you like playing forza with this wheel? Have you gotten better at the game?
this would be a great lightweight setup for the Yaw vr motion rig
The notchy feeling is caused by the toothed belt. The belts in the TS wheelbase are very wide compared to those found in the TX or T300 and it's this extra length of the teeth that can be felt. I experimented with my base and found a set of narrower belts with the same spacing of the teeth, no more graininess! I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to run it with these belts however, this was a purely academic exercise and I replaced the standard belts. In use it is noticeable for the first few minutes and then I no longer noticed. It's a great wheelbase mine came with the F488 Challenge Edition wheel in Alcantara but as I prefer a round wheel I use mine with the leather GT 28 wheel. The FFB feels very strong and detailed compared to any of the other Thrustmaster wheelbases, and I'd put it's performance up there with the CSW from Fanatec.
Nice to see TM gave yet another product for review. My experience with TM.
TX base broke wihtin a year. Same goes for the t3pa-pro and the th8a-pro.
The peals took 4 months to get repaired and they tried to blame the TX base. And that one was just 2 months out of garantee. Paid for transport because the ticket from postNL they gave did not work at PostNL and they wanted me to try another postoffice. Cant go to DPD or DHL with a ticket from PostNL.
Got the pedals back saying they could not find the problem but to be sure they replaced all potentiometers. Problem is solved. But now the screw for the tear plate are worn so i cant use them in GT style anymore. One spring Gas or clutch how you want to see it gives half the resitance that the others give.
Taking a look at how it is manufactured. Its rubbish. Not worth the money they ask for it.
-TX base a new USB cable has 3 wires soldered instead of 2 as the original has.
-Pedals new poteniometers.
-Shifter fixed by me. The wire for sequential just broke because it was soldered bad.
Had to repeat myself nummerous times because they where asking questions i already gave the answer to in previous mails.
My conclusion. They rather give away a product for review than helping a paying customer. Really think about it before purchasing a TM product. I wish i waited a bit longer before buying.
If anybody notices creaking under pressure with that Sparco wheel, tighten the little Allen screws in the face of the wheel and the 2 screws behind the wheel. Took me forever to figure out wtf was making that sound.
The Sparco-rim looks like something I'd actually put in the con side of things, the quality may be good but I find myself running my old F1 rim more and more over the 599 rim as it blocks less of my view. Real world development seems to share the same sentiment as more and more race cars use a GT/Formula style rim. While the TS-XW certainly looks cooler from afar, I'd pick the TS-PC over it if you're not going to race on the Xbox.
Great review as usual Shaun, very thorough in a way that speaks to the enthusiast. Any chance there's been more news about the dash/rev lights Thrustmaster showed at E3 when this wheelbase was first revealed?
The notchiness is from the motor itself. The belts have gotten big and stiff enough that it is transmitting the motors cogging through to the wheel. You don’t feel it in the tx because the belts are super thin and stretchy so it hides the cogging. But the tx motor cogs too.
There's defiantly a huge selection of some great technology available to us sim drivers and casual racers alike these days. Good stuff love ya work mate.
Shaun I think they don't want in factory install the brake mod because when you use it you need to open the wheel control panel in Windows to calibrate the maximum pedal distance which it seems a PC is not able to remember.
Also when using a TH8A shifter on a PC you need to use the cable with the USB end for the H-pattern mode. You can only use the other cable that plugs directly into the wheel base for the sequential mode.
I use a stress ball behind both gas and brake pedals for added resistance, great for me wearing sox.
Mic level issues with auto gain control Shaun. Lock it at a static level and leave it locked. There is about 6db variance in mic audio
Shut up ya bitch
Another great show
What's the difference between this thing and the T-GT? They're wanting $150 more for the T-GT and the only real difference seems to be the T-GT has more buttons on it, a cosmetically different pedal board, and GT branding. These things are getting to be almost DD levels of money.
Burt Sampson this ine has better ffb
I'm pretty sure they have the exact same motors and power supplies in them.
These are the two wheels Im down to also, They both came out at the same time so I'm guessing the internals are about the same??
I want that turbo power supply so just for that I'll look in to getting it for MA xbox one forza motorsports model over kill I'll take it great video thanks for the review Shaun
Thanks Shaun for the review! So i’m assuming that is it worth the upgrade from g27? I race at PC only.
Roberto Fratelli i say yes. The wheel is Awesome!!
Can i do the same on MacBook when i get the wheel?
As i dont have an pc.
Just a lot of money for that quality of base and pedals. I would consider buying the Sparco wheel for my T500.
How is a 40 watt motor more powerful than a 65 watt motor? That defies electrical physics. If you set the two units at the same settings with the same size wheel, there is zero chance that the 40 watt is more powerful. It MAY have "better" force feedback, in that it may have a smoother power curve or something like that, but it is not more powerful. It would be like saying a 40 hp engine is more powerful than a 65 hp engine. It is a physical impossibility.
SpatialDragon technically, if you bolt a turbo to the lower HP engine it will have more torque than the naturally aspirated one.
I've owned a T500RS for more than 4 years, I've switched to the TS-PC Racer (I've kept the pedal set), and I cannot encourage you enough to do the same! It is night and day, forget about the T500RS notchiness it is really smoother, also NO DEAD ZONE because the brushless servo motor have an instantaneous power output whereas the T500RS brush motor is way more lazy. The amount of detail you get in the low forces effect is way beyond T500RS. Furthermore the slight notchiness Shaun is referring to will diminish after few weeks of use. The strength is comparable, but more details and instantaneous reaction for TS-PC Racer, but TS-PC Racer wins when it comes to marathon run no fading of FFB and during strong effects it never feels weaker.
SpatialDragon
The wattage doesn't determine power produced. The wattage is power consumed. The 40 watt motor is producing 6nM of torque while the 65 watt motor is producing slightly over 4nM.
So your getting more power output at a lower consumption cost.
@@SebastienBrunier What are the pedals called for the T500rs and I'll look out for some?
Hi Shaun :) great in depth review bud, loved it 👌im wanting to get one for a Xbox x. Question..
While playing tittle's such a Forza Motorsport or assetto corsa for example. While changing gears whith the paddle's.. Do you notice any lag between when the guy in the copit actually presses the paddle shift up or down? Compared to when you would actually press them?? If that makes sence to you.. 🤔😅 like any lag there, between the driver changing the gears with his hands and you doing it? Lol.
I think in almost all game cockpit driver action were always lag..they move based on our action after shifting/steer/pulling handbrake in my opinion...
If u watch my onboard dirt rally 2.0 action video at 1 point where im pulling handbrake for every milisecond through that corner, the game driver have his hand shuffling between reaching the steering and handbrake during that occasion 🤣🤣🤣 pretty funny i would say
@@AmirPomen yes 😅
Great video. Very well done.
Damn... and I just picked up the TX wheel. Maybe I should send it back to get this wheel. Then again, I could just "be happy" with the TX and save up for a Fanatec setup with full rig in the future.
Dfgt squad where you at
Jæk buying this.. Dfgt died 😪
G25 user to this day with some mods... Looking into buying this one but it's way over my budget atm.
Guys, I bought a Trustmaster steering wheel (TS-XW Racer) and on the package it says “110V - 220V Version”, but I couldn't find where to change this voltage. On the source comes a 220V-240V label"… I don't know what to believe lol
At this price point personally i think going OSW base with a very basic rim setup is the way to go. Pick up some TM pedals + TH8A shifter cheap on eBay.
If people are willing to pay for a plastic product with this hefty price tag it makes sense to go balls out, sure it works out a few hundred on this price but it'll cover the user for a long long time in comparison to the TS-XW breaking down in the future, not forgetting the depth of detail gained is two fold.
Did i sell this option as well as Shaun did? ha ha.
This is 1/3 of the price of osw. Very good wheel
Bring that conical mod forward. I have mine so as soon as I touch the brake it's hitting the rubber. Works fantastic.
Do you also adjust the break sensitivity when you do this?
I just purchased this exact setup. I really like it but for one issue. And I can't decide if it's just something the game is doing or if the wheel is faulty. When driving in Forza Horizon 5, it handles great for the first 20 mins and then during a hard right hand turn. the wheel loses it's center. It's like it slips to the right. So instead of center being at 9 and 3, it's more like 11 and 5. Which makes it more of a challenge to drive. Like I said, I'm not sure it's not something in the game. Unplugging the USB and reinserting fixes the problem when it resets. But it will happen again. I'm beginning to wonder if I got a bad wheel base.
What do you think of PC2..? I'm struggling to get a intuitive feeling through my Fanatec V2 CSW. I'm hoping they can address this problem with future updates. Iv tried Jack Spades files but still hard to feel the front end under breaking or mid corner. Just bumps In the road and ripple strips.
5:50 The one gripe I have with thrustmaster wheels is how far they stick out from the mounting surface. If they took off that bit on the bottom that sticks down and push forward the mounting holes towards the wheel rim it would make it far better for short ass people like me. I have a GT Omega Wheel Stand and setting it up to suit me so the wheel isn't too close to me is a pain.
Pedals not good enough for the bundle.
Daz555Daz yea, very cheap pedals for the price. And also I don't like how the wheel is attached to the rim, plastic there too.. I'll go with fanatec thanks
T3-PA Pro would definitely have match better. Thrustmaster should also think about a load cell option for enthusiasts.
Sorry for you if you had a bad experience with them, but I got the set of pedals from my former T500RS bundle (exactly the same hardware) for more than 5 years, I put something like 40 000 km per year on them, the three last years I've used the conical brake mod on it, so additional stress, without a single issue... still super linear and smooth work of the pots (you can check it in the driver control panel) and just put once some grease on the pedals axis to get rid of a small squeal noise on the brake pedal... in five years time... not bad considering the price point of the set IMO.
just buy the base....i dont like the rim i would put the r383 or 599 on that
i agree with fanatec you get a load cell for this price . and the rim in the
CSL Elite Wheel Advanced Pack is also very good at least i love it i got also a gt3 rim and prefer the cls rim much nicer to hold in your hands
My main issues with RUclips videos is everyone is sponsored or partnered with these companies which makes the review b unboxing biased.
I mean bais not true he isnt bais he would only be sitting there liking 1 brand hes talked good about msot of them hes giving pros and cons also on most he isnt bais and believe me if you hands RUclips channel you would take money also dont pretend like you wouldnt especially when companies sit there offering you 1000 dollars for a review
Well they are sponsored by thrustmaster but this is still a good peice of kit.
Rly good info video
How long do you think this brushless engine can last?
If it breaks you can go to replace it easily?
Hey Shaun! I just found your channel and am definitely enjoying your videos. Can you please give me your opinion of the TM TS-XW vs the Logitech G920. I don’t want to take up much of your time, but it would really help me if I knew your opinion of which was better. If it matters in your decision, I am using the Xbox One S, soon upgrading to the Xbox One X. Thanks, man, and keep those vids comin’!
William Stutz my suggestion buy both that's what I would do I'm purchasing 2 wheels this year a fanatec and thrustmaster to make sure I enjoy both worlds
@@gametechbuilds3755 Agreed, buy both if got the cash.
Thanks so much
Watch at 1.5x speed trust me
Lool
Thanks saved me lot of time
So is the base of this a reskinned ts-pc base with Xbox compatibility?
The base can be bought separately now too.
good thing about DD wheel it will last a life time, stuff like this fades and gets weaker over time meaning you will have to buy twice eventually and that means it will add up same price as an OSW. Long story short, invest in an osw
TS-PC Ferrari 488 challenge edition,TS-XW,CSL Elite, which one is smoother,better quality and longevity?Im going from G29 and T150 PRO atm. Thanks :)
Would you say today this wheel is worth the money? I hate the feeling of gears in my wheel, I want a smooth feel like direct drive, I don't care about ffb much
Does someone know which motor is used in this base? Couldn't find any info about that online
If anyone reads this how does Fanatec CSL compare to this? I don't mind investing but Fanatec looks years ahead in quality.
Is that a good choice after T500rs? and maybe change pedals for a V3 fanatec
This should have been the T-GT wheel. A great franchise such as Gran Turismo deserved a better looking more high end feeling wheel like this. Love the sparco collaboration! Now we wait for the sparco load cell pedals!
Should I get the p310 rim or the openwheeler rim? For gt3 and f1
Depends. For modern F1 cars in Assetto Corsa you need more buttons to map all the functions.
That being said, the P310 is smoother due to bigger size.
The one thing that lets down that wheel and pedals combo is those pedals. Thrustmaster really need to get off their morals and make a decent set of pedals with a load cell brake. Even if they are the same pedal set with the load cell brake added. I find it hard to go to non load cell pedals to my Fanatec CSR Elite pedals. Either they do that or make Fanatec pedals compatible with their wheel base. I am using a basherboard CPX adapter to connect my pedals to my Thrustmaster TX.
I wonder will Thrustmaster make those Sparco whels available seperately though. I would like the other sparco wheel for my sheel.
So you are saying this rally wheel isn't good for hand over hand? I mean it'd meant for rally which has a good bit of hand over hand and the wheel is made form a realistic sparco rally wheel lol
what do the buttons on the base do? if you press and hold the button on the left the light will change green, What does that mean?
would anyone know if you would need an adapter to fit a different sparco wheel rim to this..screw holes seem the same..did you also notice any creaking clicky noises from rim..mine creaks like mad..its the plastic on metal of the wheel that creaks nothing mechanical..awesome wheel but creak is really off putting.;
how come the #6 is assigned to two seperate buttons ??
Calibration is still violent like on other Thrustmaster wheels. The wheel hits the edges on too high speed.
I love your channel Shaun but you should speak up more honestly instead of being afraid of losing TM as a partner like ISRTV does. The wheel is not smooth and has a lot of gearing and cogging, at 700euro it is overpriced in comparison to the Fanatec CSL Elite which comes with rev lights a tuning menu and you could even get the load cell brake (METAL!!) without even paying 700euro! TM did not listen to the community at all and has again provided the T3PA pedals with their 'high end range'. Exactly the same pedals that come with the T300 so please don't call this a Pro level wheel since it has a plastic steering shaft and includes plastic pedals. Common Simpit don't let your audience pay for the Sparco branding or TM distribution costs, Fanatec just owns the mid range at the moment. Don't be fooled people! And all the best Shaun again i love your channel but speak up more please.
I am not sponsored by Thrustmaster in any way. The cogging was mentioned and that does not change my opinion on the overall smoothness of the wheel. Yes its felt when one concentrates on it sitting in the pits, but did not effects my overall laptimes. I also hit them pretty hard for the pedals.
ruclips.net/video/cJf2de8-Y0M/видео.html
Do your research bud. These pedals are not even close to the pedals that come with the T300.
Think about who this wheel is aimed at Xbox owners the pedals are fine for console as Shaun said if you want pc you can get ts pc racer and I wouldn't have a csl elite thrown at me after hearing all the rattling it does for now I'm enjoying my tx and t3pa pro pedals :-)
www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-Ferrari-Alcantara-Racing-playstation-4/dp/B015KJ0SES/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506446954&sr=1-2&keywords=t300&th=1
Is it important to do a firmware update on the wheel or could i use it without doing so?
When will the wheel be available stand-alone?
Agreed hate those Pedals! Still the same old (Quick Release as T500 from 2011 )! The wheel is cool tough.
Didn't you guys watch the video?
Never
Still not yet so never
Is it possible to replace that wheel with another racing wheels, I mean is that trustmaster/sparco stock wheel bolt pattern are the same to those aftermarket racing wheels out there without using an adapter?
You need an adapter for the Thrustmaster quick release system. It depends on the manufacturer if they offer one. For instance 3drap.it offer adapters for their wheels.
is it just me or does he sound kinda like steve o ?
Is it normal, that the Power supply does a continuous humming sound? Almost as loud as a fridge?
Yes , huge power , don't worry
Thrustmaster's wheels get that slight notchy feeling cause they use a toothed belt system that work like gesrs. Fanatec uses a ribbed belt system where the rib never leaves the groove.
Thrustmaster's belt system has an advantage of Fanatec because you'll never experience belt slip with toothed belt.
Well i think its a great review . Ive had my tx for 3 years with no problems. Id love the fanatec xbox bundle but at 1500 pounds i coudlnt justify that much but for me thrustmaster stuff is good enough ill definitely be upgrading one day to this. Are there better wheels and pedals yes but its a hobby so im not going to spend a fortune on pretend cars. Ill only upgrade once my tx packs up but for now im happy!
Should I do the same thing if I want to use it on Xbox one ???
Great review I'm def going with the fanatec thanks lol the fanatec has wya to good of pedals and the system is just better to me and the ffb 2nm more is a bigger difference then some may think
Hello! Is more better for Thrustmaster Tx Base wheel?
Does this wheel work on older Thrustmaster bases, such as the base of the tmx pro or the ferrari 458 italia edition?
I dont think tou can change the tmx wheel
How the fuck do ya change the tmx wheel? You don't
Any overheating issues with the base? I have a TX and even with the feedback turned down to around 60% and the fan on constant run, it goes into thermal protection after about 15-20 minutes. Granted I got the base used so it might just be showing age but I don't want to spend $650 thinking I'm upgrading and still have the issue.
vdubfan709 people said to turn the force feedback at 50% or less and then it was fine. I'd rather have less ffb than having the base get fried.
No, it doesn't. Has more ventilation, better fans, uses a new heat evaporation process and has the power supply outside of unit.
@@delilahzx10r47 That depends on how long your gaming for. I play for 30mins to an hour max then come off to cool it down, simples.
What did you prefer the csl Elite ir this?
How do you update drivers with a Mac? I only have Mac and Xbox
Does anybody know if my trustmaster handbrake plugs in there? weird question but i wanna be sure :)
Sorry but this doesn't release in the United States until November 1.
as mentioned by many if I get this wheel how do I set it up without a PC I only have a mac and this would be for xbox one use only?
thanks
jean marc Giroux thrustmaster simhub on amazon
I still don't get the pedals. I've run few racing games without multi usb support with them (with the brake mod) and Grand Turismo on PS3 and I can say about them only this: It's cheap piece of plastique you can only throw to the trash immediately after you buy the bundle.
Hi, a lot of my games are not supported so what do I do to get it to work? can you help me? games it doesn't work are Forze Horizon 3 & Forza Motorsport 6 Apex & The Crew.
Get cronusmax adaptor and you'll be able to play every game. I also have the Reasnow adapter.
Could we use the TSPC Racer rim on this base or the tx base for xbox use?
Jonah Hosein
All Thrustmaster rims work on all Thrustmaster bases with changeable rims.
One point six extra power over the T300. That's really cutting hairs.
hi, can you put a handbrake on it?
How do you connect it to an xbox one.
Do I need windows for this wheel
T-gt is out now. Revieuw en compare whit csl elite. For ps4?
David Francken why all the sexy wheel is for Xbox not for ps4
help me please...between this and fanatec csl elite what should i aim for, what gives the best feeling?!?
Fanatec all the way.
This is better than csl
What did you end up with? I want the csl elite but it’s out of stock I might settle for this
No PS4 compatibility should be a con also. Thrustmaster needs to start making one base that works with all platforms and put the compatibility part on the wheel rims themselves so Sony and Microsoft get their crap licensing fees and we don't have to unmount bases. This is ridiculous! Fanatec is finally got it worked out Thrustmaster needs to do the same!
Get a Reasnow adapter and you can use it on the PS4
Ts pc and aftermarket momo from ricmotech.com ?
Is CSWv2 better?
Does anyone know if the base can be bought separately? Cant find it anywhere. I really dont like that sparco wheel
get the ts-pc. Same base. Money saved you can buy a 2nd rim.
@@Jaymobe07I'm xbox. I bought it and sold the sparco rim
@@FS02TER now is available since 3 days ago..I bought the ts xw base for 340€ yesterday
is this not just a ts-pc with console compatibility?
Джон гоночный
Yup
Would you reccomend an upgrade to this over an g920?
OMG yes!
@@hook86 I'm toyed over the TS-XW & the G920??
@@markweatherall7437 the TS XW will give you more upgrade options, so out of the two I'd probably recommend it
@@hook86 Thanks, when you state upgrade options do you mean rims and pedals etc. Its that price thats making me hesitant. Yes the base is available to buy individually. I'd probably buy a Logitech 2nd hand and if I don't like it then it will sell again and I won't lose out but if I like it then its a winner. I had a Logitech wheel in 2007. Il try & find it for you on my sons utube page and share the link.
@@markweatherall7437 Yea the Thrustmaster ecosystem is definitely more diverse than logitechs. You can snag a lot of different rims and some aftermarket upgrades, and the pedals are cross compatible. Thrustmaster even has an affordable Load Cell pedal option on the market now. I've since moved over to the Fanatec ecosystem (not cheap, but worth it to me) however I still have a Thrustmaster wheel I use from time to time with several rims. I raced with a Logitech for a couple years and while it held up well there is defintely a step up on force feedback quality between the two wheels, and I'm really big on having a real world sized rim... so Thrustmaster is definitely my recommendation but if you want to start with a used G920 I'm sure you won't go wrong.