lol are u trying to say its a good card? card is still bad for its price should've have just had this come on at the start smh i would rather get a 7800 xt or 7900xt which are cheaper and better pp@@AntiGrieferGames
Lets be real. 7900 XT was never a good deal with all these lacking features at least in Europe where they cost the same and you don't buy a GPU just to play Call of Duty. I would just buy the 4070 TI Super at this point then i have the 2 encoders and all the features I would miss out otherwise for the price of 10 FPS, lol. AMD has to step up their game because they are getting destroyed by the worse refresh known to mankind.@@sdrubaa
U still have FG left on the options OFF. U can use FG or in Hogwarts no DLSS was used, with DLSS I get close to 57 fps aversge with DLSS ultra settinggs ans RT on on my regular 4070 Ti at 4K
Yeah, unfortunately the 4090 is the first ever true-blue "Native 4K 60FPS + RT & All Max Settings" GPU to exist. All others require upscaling, or downgrading of settings and such, whereas the 4090 can reach that for *almost* every game. The 5090 will eventually likely make even the 4090 look small. And the 6000 series will hopefully be strong enough that even the 6060's will be able to be proper 4K cards.
1 garbage and 1 less garbage cards. If the 4080 Super isn't 10% faster than vanilla 4080 on average , then the 4070 Super is the only decent card in the SUPER line up
@@saease Only in the US though, since prices outside of the country are ludicrous. I mean u pay a $200 to get the RtX 4070 super. The RTX 4070 is actually available for the MSRP of the super model in my country. Still wish we'd get the super model for atleast a $100 premium over the US
Not really, 4070tiS is a great entry-point 4K card and perfect for ultra-wide. If you play triple A games you'll have to play with RT off with any AMD gpu.
@TestingGames Regarding your view on 4070Ti Super increase Pwr Consumption in some games which is slightly more than the 4080 (non super). My thoughts, I think You can undervolt it without much perf loss, correct me if I am wrong?
@@renelackner3081 Undervolting can increase performance because the GPU then no longer goes into thermal throttling or you can achieve a higher clock speed with the same power limit. It all depends on the card and how you want to optimize.
@@dragani2330 believe me I know how undervolting and overclocking works. Been doing it for ~10 years now. No matter how hard you try, there is no way around performance loss when undervolting your GPU if you want to keep the system stable. The 70 Ti Super is not much ahead of the regular 70 Ti and if you cut its performance even just by 5-10% you're already in that lower tier 70 Ti territory (same performance and power draw) only advantage the undervolted 70 Ti super has over his smaller counterpart is the bus width, which is great if you game at 4k or are editing multicam videos.
Bruh even 900$ is stupid look at the 4070 ti super almost makes the 4080 irrelevant gpu seriously 10 more fps for more 100$ that ain't gonna cut it absolutely not nvidia just made the most stupid decision ever the 4080 super will probably be the original 4080 at the end nvidia just made the most pathetic decisions ever if this is how the 4080 is perform then nvidia make their 4080 like a joke when they release the 4070 ti super the 4080 is also dead and they made the 4080 obsolete at this point wtf lol of it performed at least 15% more maybe it was ok ish but now the 4070 ti super to drop thus gpu right to the trash of course if you are planing to buy the 4080 now then absolutely not worth to even look at it
The regular 4080 is being discontinued and replaced by the 4080 Super for 999 bucks. The current 4080s on the market are basically just leftovers now. Forget about them.
So Ngreedia just released a handicapped 4080 using the same or more power for $799 while the 7900 XT is a bit faster for $749 has 4GB more VRAM and probably even more efficient than this shit of a card.
It's only handicapped for those who don't overclock. It has the same base as a 4080 meaning you can easily run it at 320W without ever going into 70°C. The extra VRAM of the 7900XT is pointless, it's not like it can run RT to ever even come close to 16 lmfaooo
4070Ti S and 7900XT gives the same experience in Raster while the 7900XT craps itself in RT and is much worse for upscaling -> A better way to represent 700 usd GPU buying choices.
Double FPS in RDR2, game that looks better than the others. Lately, devs are no optimize their games. They are always waiting for a new generation of GPU instead of improve their games.
RDR2 does not have RT feature so it has high FPS, the rest of the games use RT, if you turn it off your FPS easily doubles in video games, even triples in cyberpunk 2077 because of RT Overdrive Path Tracing consumes a lot of performance
I have a brand new RTX4070 Super (Gigabyte), but already got a few system resets and "video memory too low" warnings during gaming (Fortnite) in QWHD. So I will return it and I'll go for the 4070 Ti Super instead, to gain more memory.
It's Gigabyte. Many people are saying to stay away from both their power supplies and GPUs right now. I'm still using a 3080 and I've never had a system reset due to low memory, and mine is only 10gb, so it's probably not just a memory issue, but that it's Gigabyte. They've been good historically, but over the last year or two their quality control has been really bad.
Today I bought a new 4070ti super msi ventus 3x for $900. Not a bad replacement for my 4070ti (paying an additional $140) after selling the previous one. There are fewer friezes at Hogwarts due to lack of memory (since it began to eat under 13GB and there is a reserve of 3 GB (apparently this is the problem with friezes)
@@Tesseramous these people are weird. They are telling me for the last years that my 6800 is NOT VIABLE for 4k gaming. man it always depends on what you are doing. the 4070 ti super imo is the best "budget" 4k card with rt capability.
@@marvin8291If we ignore games from this year to ones which released back before 2020 .Yes it's definitly good 4k graphics card it can play every single one of them at max settings chill 70fps experience.
Guys in what time we live? Rtx 4080 and 40 series even can't run games at 4K resolution without DLSS. Ok but even DLSS can't give 60 FPS! Omg. Where is native 4K 60 FPS?!
what the point of testing new gpu with DLSS active? .. native resolution is only meters.. we need to stop with this fake resolution trands that console fanboy have started
DLSS and frame generation should be used with lower end GPU’s because the system can’t handle the requirements of the game. At the level of a 4070 super and higher there shouldn’t be a reason to be generating frames that the gpu can’t do natively.
@@JLALALALA I understand your point, but when a gpu is priced over 950euro, its not a low end.. so at this price I pretend native res.. so I can understand what I have payed..m
Tell that to the harder to run games maxed out with RT like cyberpunk, dying light 2, control, warhammer 40k darktide, jedi survivor etc. Only an idiot would leave dlss and frame gen off when you can double your fps@@JLALALALA
@@drunkhusband6257I brought this up in a separate thread. If a person is playing playing triple a’s at the highest settings and 4K with rt then they’ve likely bought a 4090. Everyone I know who’s doing this has. Otherwise they’re lowering some of the settings without giving up much. They may be running dlss but my point was that in testing it’s not great to be using dlss. Test in native if only testing so few.
cept the prices shown here don't really tell the full story in some countries like mine you can pick a cheaper model 4080 for less then 100 dollars more the the 4070 ti super
This is perplexing. Most reviewers have shown the difference to be between 10-30 fps in games between 4070 TI s and 4080. Moreover, your 4080's fps seems to be lower for games like rdr2 and cyberpunk. I have a 4080 I can tell you the readings seem a little off.
The 4070 Ti Super is not very good… its only 4% faster than the 4070 Ti and uses way more power. The 7900XT is 10% faster, $100 cheaper and is more efficient.
The 7900xt is only faster if you dont use RT. If you do enable RT and frame gen, the 4070TiS takes a huge lead. Going AMD vs Nvidia really just depends on what settings you want to enable.
You're going to pay more for a 50 series video card, isn't it better to get a 4070 ti or even a 3060? If you are going to play up to a 2060, now you work with a 4070 He does a magnificent job, for me you just want to spend money, he must still be a daddy's boy.
Yes,but the 4080 super will cost the same as the 4080. That makes the 4070ti super( aftermarket cards are almost $900) a bad buy because the 4080 super will be 7 percent faster making the gap bigger. Cost per performance the 4080 super will be a better buy, yet still over priced all the way around. @@VS-jf2ov
waiting for the rtx4080 super to drop and see if the prices are good, but I might go with rtx4070tisuper as seen it retail for £769, and the difference in price for a extra at best 20fps or 99% of the time 10fps I think i can live without for a maybe saving of £300 or more price point!
Can you please start the video with some visual proof that you have the hardware you are actually testing? There are a lot of channels with "fake" benchmarks that steal the data from other testing sites without real testing. 😉 Not sure if this is the case here, so posting hardware proof would increase credibility.
А никого не смущает, график времени кадров ? Он во всех играх рваный , так же играть не приятно , чувствую микрофризы . И по-моему это началось на моей 4080 , после установки последних драйверов 551.23 , где добавили поддержку карт с приставкой супер.
so difference in 4K is something like ~10 fps between this GPUs ye? I guess in 2K (QHD) difference will be around ~20 fps ye? Idk if its much, doesnt feels that much. And difference in price huge
If you’re the kind of person who needs to play your games at the highest graphics settings and resolution then you’re not going to be settling for a 4070 or a 4080 series gpu. You’re going straight for the 4090 amiright. For the rest of us who can compromise on our settings a full die 4080 FE even at $1200 is going to be a beast of a gpu when you pair it with a good cpu like a 7800x3d, fast dual channel ram, liquid cooled system with good airflow to keep internal temps stable, and an M.2. At 200 cheaper with the same full die the upcoming 4080 super would make more sense than anything in the 4070 super series just released. Should give you at least 2 years of triple a gameplay.
Говорили, что на 4000 серии все игры будут летать на ультра настройках при 1440p в 120fps, чуть ли не с 4060, а по факту да же 4090 не может на ультра настройках cyberpunk без dlss и генерации кадров
I picked up a brand new Gigabyte 4080 Gaming OC yesterday for the exact same price as the newly released Gigabyte 4070 TI Super Gaming OC (well truthfully came to 0.60c USD more), some stores are dropping prices to get rid of the old cards fast, potentially the best time to look for a 4080 if one is after a 4070TI Super
@@TooMuchGaming247 In which country do you live? Here in Germany nothing drops. The normal 4070 Ti costs the same as the Ti Super and the 4080 costs the same as before.
rtx 4060= rtx 4050 rtx 4060ti= rtx 4050 ti rtx 4070= rtx 4060 rtx 4070 super= rtx 4060 v2 rtx 4070ti= rtx 4060 super rtx 4070ti super= rtx 4070 rtx 4080= rtx 4070 super rtx 4090= rtx 4090 nvidia totally changed spprox all of their card names so they can charge as more as they want which is really absurd
A pretty close comparison. So close in fact its barely noticeable. You would be fine buying either of these cards. The only thing I noticed is that the 4070ti super was drawing more power. That might be a deciding factor. Well that and if you can get a good price on the 4070ti super then the higher power draw might not even be an issue. I myself have a 4080 but I got mine before the 4070ti super was available. I'm still happy with my 4080.
Why? Having the same die doesn't mean the same performance? Most of the time, it's within 10% of the 4080 which is exactly where we expected to see it.
In febuary 2025, rtx5070 16gb will be launched and perform a little better than 4070tiS close to 4080 for 600$ also 5070ti 16gb will perform 10-15% faster than 4080super for 800$. I bet this prediction.
Polite suggestion: please start testing games with frame generation too when using 40 series with games that support it. Someone buying a 40 series is going to use it. For example, testing DLSS quality + frame generation with RT on in Cyberpunk/Witcher. This isn’t a dig at you, but it seems like every single channel just flat out refuses to turn frame generation on and it’s bizzare to me. It’s a great technology for single player games and a selling point of the cards.
I haven't noticed any latency increase with frame generation on...but I also have a 240hz OLED monitor, so others experience maybe different.@@missake212
@@missake212 That’s true, but that’s also why I said for single player games. You can’t feel the latency in single player at all. It’s only a problem in competitive titles.
@@graveyarddead753 it really depends, if you use dlss + fg in certain game you will definitely feel it, it also differs from person to person and what type of game you're playing
They are selling 4080 and 4070 TiS at almost 1-2% price difference here in India. 4070 tis is just a gimmic and a product they would had released as normal 4070ti instead of super. Shameless nvidia as usual.
4o7o TI Super vs 4o8o 4K + % 4o8o Cyberpunk + 12,2 Starfield + 11,8 Hogwarts + 14,3 Alan Wake II + 17,5 Last of Us I + 12,7 Avatar + 17,2 RDR II + 15,6 Forza 5 + 13,7 --- ~ 14,4 %
whyyyyyyyy, WHY would you use DLSS to test the raw performance of 2 cards..... Why use it in Cyberpunk, Allan Wake 2, and Avatar, but then dont in others. The comparison is useless.
But it can actually handle RT. Definitely worth considering especially outside the US where pricing of these two is similar. Less than 50 bucks difference for each cheapest model.
Сравните их по производительности, думаю прирост будет ощутимый если вы используете монитор от 2к и выше, + в том что разница в видеопамяти в два раза. Конечно если вас устраивает ФПС в тех играх что вы играете, то не стоит заморачиваться.
Нет, нецелесообразно. Подождите новое поколение, в сентябре или октябре будут новые карты. В целом неудачное поколение, даже 4090 слабая. Летом продам свою 4090, пока она не подешевела, добавлю и возьму 5090. А может и не возьму, игр особо и нет.
Awesome comparison video! Looks like the 4070 Ti Super is the better deal, with slightly less performance. BTW, Your video gets extra points for using a Dodge Challenger. @8:04
@@anitaremenarova6662 The actual performance of the 4070ti Super is about 3-5% of the 4070ti. This is no different from overclocking the 4070ti. And bandwidth and vram don't mean much. The problem is the CUDA core. The CUDA core is close to the 4070ti, and there is definitely a big difference from the 4080.
@@aisuotome1413 The difference between the two is about 6-10 percent performance, so if you overclock 4070ti sup a bit, the difference will be at the margin of error🤏
Games :
Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty - 0:19 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Starfield - 1:29
Hogwarts Legacy - 2:33 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Alan Wake 2 - 3:41
The Last of Us Part I - 4:48
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 5:54
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 7:00 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
Forza Horizon 5 - 8:00 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
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GeForce RTX 4080 16Gb - bit.ly/3THhnV5
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Bro, that's cool.Which application do you use for processor and graphics card performance?
I want to draw your attention to the power consumption of these video cards, 4070 ti super consumes in some games even more than 4080.
but 800$ 4070 ti super it's a monster
I guess 4080 and 4080 super not worth the money
omg
You weren't kidding! I guess using a cut down AD103 won't help it use less power.
Hmm, I'd been thinking I'd keep my 600w PSU for a possible 4070 Ti Super upgrade.
@_Quint_ bro I think u atleast need 750w
1200 for a graphics card and it cant do a proper 4k on new titles💀💀
yup sad asf
4080 is more like $1000 usd now
try Cad even more expensive smh $1619.99 around 1200 usd@@mitsuhh for a non super
you mean "new unopimized titles"?
lol are u trying to say its a good card?
card is still bad for its price should've have just had this come on at the start smh i would rather get a 7800 xt or 7900xt which are cheaper and better pp@@AntiGrieferGames
4070Ti Super vs 7900XT next?
7900xt has no match for it's price class. The Super launches helped the 7800xt and 7900xt, and we might have AMD drop the price again.
even with 4080 the 7900 XT outperforms the NVidia so 4070 TiS has nooo chance
AMD only for games without RT. And only for game, not for the work. So... If it's ok with you, take it and don't ask any quetions.
Lets be real. 7900 XT was never a good deal with all these lacking features at least in Europe where they cost the same and you don't buy a GPU just to play Call of Duty. I would just buy the 4070 TI Super at this point then i have the 2 encoders and all the features I would miss out otherwise for the price of 10 FPS, lol. AMD has to step up their game because they are getting destroyed by the worse refresh known to mankind.@@sdrubaa
@@HafeezBlackLeg bs
FPS in the 40s for a $1200 gpu is sad. I know it's 4k high settings, but still.
@@Pyro293 optimization issues? Intentional or otherwise
that's a strech.. i have it and i get around 40-60.. but i know wht you mean.. it's just been collecting dust after i got a rtx 3090ti@@Pyro293
It's just the ray tracing being way too demanding, turning it off would double the fps.
So the comparison of current games, graphics cards are not improving on how they should be! Total BS. @Pyro293
U still have FG left on the options OFF. U can use FG or in Hogwarts no DLSS was used, with DLSS I get close to 57 fps aversge with DLSS ultra settinggs ans RT on on my regular 4070 Ti at 4K
Bottom line: they aren't good enough for 4K in most recent games. Perhaps I'm weird, but I like to have 60 fps, not only on average, but also 1% low.
Yeah, unfortunately the 4090 is the first ever true-blue "Native 4K 60FPS + RT & All Max Settings" GPU to exist. All others require upscaling, or downgrading of settings and such, whereas the 4090 can reach that for *almost* every game. The 5090 will eventually likely make even the 4090 look small. And the 6000 series will hopefully be strong enough that even the 6060's will be able to be proper 4K cards.
@@KrazzeeKaneWith dlss.....
Who need 4k? 2k looks the same
Who need 4k? 2k looks the same
Who need 4k? 2k looks the same
4070ti super is 16gb, not 12gb.
huh
With competitive pricing options 4070ti s could give 4080 stiff competition.
if only the 4080 wouldnt be phased out by the 200 dollar cheaper 4080 super
It already does but a 4080 super will trounce it. 4070tiS is best suited for ultrawides and 4080S for 4K.
@@anitaremenarova6662there’s still a massive gap between the 4080s and the true 4K card 4090
@@rust2156is there?
If we're talking price for performance, it already does. Once the 4080 Super releases though, that gap will be 5% cost difference vs performance.
1 garbage and 1 less garbage cards. If the 4080 Super isn't 10% faster than vanilla 4080 on average , then the 4070 Super is the only decent card in the SUPER line up
It won’t be. Probably 5-6 max
Like you
only has 5% more cores it will be 2/3% faster
@@BGD_0 very mature response, thank you BGD_0 for your very intelligent reply!
@@pluschy7886 i didnt speak with you kid,and you are so intelligent that you cannot exceed the temperature of the room
Can you test the same cards in 1440p??
set your video quality to 1440p and thank me later 🤣
4070 TI S, make 7900XT looks hella better tbh. 4070 super is probably the best release of this " super" cards.
4070 super makes every nvidia card seem poorly priced
@@saease Only in the US though, since prices outside of the country are ludicrous. I mean u pay a $200 to get the RtX 4070 super. The RTX 4070 is actually available for the MSRP of the super model in my country. Still wish we'd get the super model for atleast a $100 premium over the US
Not really, 4070tiS is a great entry-point 4K card and perfect for ultra-wide. If you play triple A games you'll have to play with RT off with any AMD gpu.
What? It's nearly a 4080 for 400 dollars less🤣🤣
@@erenyaeger7662it’s not much better then the non super variant, well it’s better in 4k. I don’t really think it’s worth it.
@TestingGames
Regarding your view on 4070Ti Super increase Pwr Consumption in some games which is slightly more than the 4080 (non super).
My thoughts, I think You can undervolt it without much perf loss, correct me if I am wrong?
Great idea! And just after successfully tinkering and testing your 4070 Ti Super you just got yourself a more expensive 4070 Ti ! 😂
You can also massively overclock it, 4080 base means it can handle 320W just as well as stock.
@@renelackner3081They cost the same.
@@renelackner3081 Undervolting can increase performance because the GPU then no longer goes into thermal throttling or you can achieve a higher clock speed with the same power limit. It all depends on the card and how you want to optimize.
@@dragani2330 believe me I know how undervolting and overclocking works. Been doing it for ~10 years now.
No matter how hard you try, there is no way around performance loss when undervolting your GPU if you want to keep the system stable.
The 70 Ti Super is not much ahead of the regular 70 Ti and if you cut its performance even just by 5-10% you're already in that lower tier 70 Ti territory (same performance and power draw) only advantage the undervolted 70 Ti super has over his smaller counterpart is the bus width, which is great if you game at 4k or are editing multicam videos.
This just shows how overpriced the 4080 is.
This card should have been max 900$
Bruh even 900$ is stupid look at the 4070 ti super almost makes the 4080 irrelevant gpu seriously 10 more fps for more 100$ that ain't gonna cut it absolutely not nvidia just made the most stupid decision ever the 4080 super will probably be the original 4080 at the end nvidia just made the most pathetic decisions ever if this is how the 4080 is perform then nvidia make their 4080 like a joke when they release the 4070 ti super the 4080 is also dead and they made the 4080 obsolete at this point wtf lol of it performed at least 15% more maybe it was ok ish but now the 4070 ti super to drop thus gpu right to the trash of course if you are planing to buy the 4080 now then absolutely not worth to even look at it
The regular 4080 is being discontinued and replaced by the 4080 Super for 999 bucks.
The current 4080s on the market are basically just leftovers now. Forget about them.
BS, 4080 should've been $800
@@laszlozsurka8991 could have agree to that 800-850$ altho I suggest up to 800$ that's how it will be since it's nvidia's way
@@gamingcomputers7485 By inflation the 4080 should actually be $800 since the 3080 was $700.
So Ngreedia just released a handicapped 4080 using the same or more power for $799 while the 7900 XT is a bit faster for $749 has 4GB more VRAM and probably even more efficient than this shit of a card.
Yes actually 😂
It's only handicapped for those who don't overclock. It has the same base as a 4080 meaning you can easily run it at 320W without ever going into 70°C. The extra VRAM of the 7900XT is pointless, it's not like it can run RT to ever even come close to 16 lmfaooo
4070Ti S and 7900XT gives the same experience in Raster while the 7900XT craps itself in RT and is much worse for upscaling -> A better way to represent 700 usd GPU buying choices.
The 7900xt has 20gb?
dude im tearing here NGREEDIA 😂😂🤣
Double FPS in RDR2, game that looks better than the others. Lately, devs are no optimize their games. They are always waiting for a new generation of GPU instead of improve their games.
RDR2 does not have RT feature so it has high FPS, the rest of the games use RT, if you turn it off your FPS easily doubles in video games, even triples in cyberpunk 2077 because of RT Overdrive Path Tracing consumes a lot of performance
but you're right the games are suboptimal because even without RT TLOU part 1 has extremely bad performance.
I have a brand new RTX4070 Super (Gigabyte), but already got a few system resets and "video memory too low" warnings during gaming (Fortnite) in QWHD.
So I will return it and I'll go for the 4070 Ti Super instead, to gain more memory.
impossible..
Why not 7800 XT, or 7900 XT?
how much ram do you have
Bcouz u got 16gb of ram thats why u got system reset
It's Gigabyte. Many people are saying to stay away from both their power supplies and GPUs right now. I'm still using a 3080 and I've never had a system reset due to low memory, and mine is only 10gb, so it's probably not just a memory issue, but that it's Gigabyte. They've been good historically, but over the last year or two their quality control has been really bad.
Today I bought a new 4070ti super msi ventus 3x for $900. Not a bad replacement for my 4070ti (paying an additional $140) after selling the previous one. There are fewer friezes at Hogwarts due to lack of memory (since it began to eat under 13GB and there is a reserve of 3 GB (apparently this is the problem with friezes)
Just picked up this same gpu slightly used for $600 cash. Much more reasonable price for this gpu.
I think id still want the 4080.. those extra 8 frames are essential 😅
But don't forget the 4080super , which will cost $1000 (on 200$ cheaper than 4080) and is 5-10% faster than the regular 4080
For an extra 300 dollars? Hell no😂
when that card will be released ?@@hrysolite
Good luck finding a 4080 super for $1000.00 They are all bought up by scalpers reselling them for $1,200+ dollars...@@hrysolite
300-400 price difference is a big deal to most.
4080 is 15% more performance for +50% more cost. The actual 4080 Super should be +20% more performance for +25% more cost.
20%
Not buying a new GPU until one can max out a 4k monitor on Ultra settings, waste of money seeing 60FPS or under in 4k paying that much money!
Could you please include 4070 ti with this comparison? Thank you for your hard working.
Benchmarks are not bad for 4K Games but this is really more a High performance 1440P GPU..
Why is it only a 1440p gpu? Do you really need 100hz in every game at every setting level? Not everyone has $1200+ to spend on just a gpu.
@@Tesseramous these people are weird. They are telling me for the last years that my 6800 is NOT VIABLE for 4k gaming. man it always depends on what you are doing.
the 4070 ti super imo is the best "budget" 4k card with rt capability.
@@marvin8291If we ignore games from this year to ones which released back before 2020 .Yes it's definitly good 4k graphics card it can play every single one of them at max settings chill 70fps experience.
the 4070 aka 4070 ti S is a good card tbh if it comes within a good pricing.. the only con is the power draw
Basically neither is fast enough for 4k and both don't have enough vram for 4k by like next year anyway. Nice.
Mmm no run dlss 4k quality is even better than 4k native sometimes. If you dont use your tensor cores you wasted your silicon.
No i think on medium quality settings and dlss on you can easily get 100-150 fps at the highest
Guys in what time we live? Rtx 4080 and 40 series even can't run games at 4K resolution without DLSS. Ok but even DLSS can't give 60 FPS! Omg. Where is native 4K 60 FPS?!
youll have to enable frame generation + DLSS thn you should easily get >60 fps
@@cheapbongs yes, but I mean real native without any loss of quality.
DLSS quality often provides image quality identical to or better than native.
@@aiqimasofaviytalim ahh i see i misunderstood u. yea its crazy u need a 4090 to run 4k native above 60fps ! inflation lol
Simple. 4K is dumb
what the point of testing new gpu with DLSS active? .. native resolution is only meters.. we need to stop with this fake resolution trands that console fanboy have started
If you have DLSS available no reason not to use it, same with frame generation.
DLSS and frame generation should be used with lower end GPU’s because the system can’t handle the requirements of the game. At the level of a 4070 super and higher there shouldn’t be a reason to be generating frames that the gpu can’t do natively.
@@JLALALALA I understand your point, but when a gpu is priced over 950euro, its not a low end.. so at this price I pretend native res.. so I can understand what I have payed..m
Tell that to the harder to run games maxed out with RT like cyberpunk, dying light 2, control, warhammer 40k darktide, jedi survivor etc. Only an idiot would leave dlss and frame gen off when you can double your fps@@JLALALALA
@@drunkhusband6257I brought this up in a separate thread. If a person is playing playing triple a’s at the highest settings and 4K with rt then they’ve likely bought a 4090. Everyone I know who’s doing this has. Otherwise they’re lowering some of the settings without giving up much.
They may be running dlss but my point was that in testing it’s not great to be using dlss. Test in native if only testing so few.
First games 6 fps diference but them 15 to 20 fps diference definetely 4080 is much faster
Everyone knew that already. It's also $400 more expensive.
Look at it percentage wise. The gap in fos will look larger when fps gets higher. Buy percentage might be same
cept the prices shown here don't really tell the full story in some countries like mine you can pick a cheaper model 4080 for less then 100 dollars more the the 4070 ti super
This is perplexing. Most reviewers have shown the difference to be between 10-30 fps in games between 4070 TI s and 4080.
Moreover, your 4080's fps seems to be lower for games like rdr2 and cyberpunk. I have a 4080 I can tell you the readings seem a little off.
Not gonna lie, I expected better efficiency. In Last of Us power usage more than 4080. Is it overclocked?
4080 is the most efficient gpu in the lineup
The 4070 Ti Super is not very good… its only 4% faster than the 4070 Ti and uses way more power. The 7900XT is 10% faster, $100 cheaper and is more efficient.
its a good card, just expensive
The 7900xt is only faster if you dont use RT. If you do enable RT and frame gen, the 4070TiS takes a huge lead. Going AMD vs Nvidia really just depends on what settings you want to enable.
Can you add the percentage improvement?
Would be good to see if you can OC 4070ti Super and do another comparison against stock 4070ti Super and 4080.
I don't think there's a stock 4070ti super
I think chip of 4070 ti super is already over clocked out of the box
102000₽ vs 145000₽
А должны стоить
75000₽ vs 106000₽....нормально так в рф накидывают сверху..
На озоне за 80к продают
You guys go ahead, i will wait for 50 series
You're going to pay more for a 50 series video card, isn't it better to get a 4070 ti or even a 3060? If you are going to play up to a 2060, now you work with a 4070 He does a magnificent job, for me you just want to spend money, he must still be a daddy's boy.
That awkward moment when you realize you're watching 4k benchmark vids in 720p 😅... sitting here like "why is it so pixelated" 🤦♂️
I am happy with 4070 ti super its almost near to 4080 with low cost
yea $800+ very low cost
@@Alexito2003 ya I am saying compare to $1200+
Yes,but the 4080 super will cost the same as the 4080. That makes the 4070ti super( aftermarket cards are almost $900) a bad buy because the 4080 super will be 7 percent faster making the gap bigger. Cost per performance the 4080 super will be a better buy, yet still over priced all the way around. @@VS-jf2ov
in my opinion the 7900xt is the better buy it costs less and have more raster power & it trades blows neck & neck with the 4080
It doesn't handle triple screens or VR as well as Nvidia @@kaine9835
waiting for the rtx4080 super to drop and see if the prices are good, but I might go with rtx4070tisuper as seen it retail for £769, and the difference in price for a extra at best 20fps or 99% of the time 10fps I think i can live without for a maybe saving of £300 or more price point!
Can you please start the video with some visual proof that you have the hardware you are actually testing? There are a lot of channels with "fake" benchmarks that steal the data from other testing sites without real testing. 😉 Not sure if this is the case here, so posting hardware proof would increase credibility.
i will take the og 4080
А никого не смущает, график времени кадров ? Он во всех играх рваный , так же играть не приятно , чувствую микрофризы . И по-моему это началось на моей 4080 , после установки последних драйверов 551.23 , где добавили поддержку карт с приставкой супер.
so difference in 4K is something like ~10 fps between this GPUs ye? I guess in 2K (QHD) difference will be around ~20 fps ye? Idk if its much, doesnt feels that much. And difference in price huge
Could you compare it vs a 3090?
The normal 4070 ti a biiiiiiit stronger than 3090ti . ( 3 %) so tge super version should be ( 10 % )
Marginally stronger less than 10%
If you’re the kind of person who needs to play your games at the highest graphics settings and resolution then you’re not going to be settling for a 4070 or a 4080 series gpu. You’re going straight for the 4090 amiright. For the rest of us who can compromise on our settings a full die 4080 FE even at $1200 is going to be a beast of a gpu when you pair it with a good cpu like a 7800x3d, fast dual channel ram, liquid cooled system with good airflow to keep internal temps stable, and an M.2. At 200 cheaper with the same full die the upcoming 4080 super would make more sense than anything in the 4070 super series just released. Should give you at least 2 years of triple a gameplay.
Remember guys that 4080 is (should've been) basically a 4070.
you really expect a 4070 to beat 3090 ti?
What a dumb comment. You really expect a 4070 to be 20% faster than a 3090 Ti?
Stop parroting what dumb people say online.
70' cards never exceeded 220 watt. 4080 at 320 to 400 watt oc is just way too powerful to be 70' class card.
@@darkgamingbro 3070 outperformed 2080 ti
yeah 80 ti not 90 ti@@alehchyzhyk5603
Говорили, что на 4000 серии все игры будут летать на ультра настройках при 1440p в 120fps, чуть ли не с 4060, а по факту да же 4090 не может на ультра настройках cyberpunk без dlss и генерации кадров
Так это не 1440р
@@kramk2293, я по факту, а не про данный тест.
4080 is not worth it now for 200 bucks more.
$400
facts
I did but I still have time to re
Return it for the super
I picked up a brand new Gigabyte 4080 Gaming OC yesterday for the exact same price as the newly released Gigabyte 4070 TI Super Gaming OC (well truthfully came to 0.60c USD more), some stores are dropping prices to get rid of the old cards fast, potentially the best time to look for a 4080 if one is after a 4070TI Super
@@TooMuchGaming247 In which country do you live? Here in Germany nothing drops. The normal 4070 Ti costs the same as the Ti Super and the 4080 costs the same as before.
The price difference are huge. Guess 4060, 4070, 4070 Ti Super Ti and 4090 are best buy for now. 😢
They need to drop the price of the 4060 16GB.
4090 is overpriced. 4090 only worth $1299.
4090 is a waste of money!
4060 is a trash GPU no one should buy.
@@KelvinKMS Yet it is the only card capable of 60FPS+ at 4k max settings.
It's not a waste of money if you can afford the premium.
4070 Ti Super overclock vs 4080
rtx 4060= rtx 4050
rtx 4060ti= rtx 4050 ti
rtx 4070= rtx 4060
rtx 4070 super= rtx 4060 v2
rtx 4070ti= rtx 4060 super
rtx 4070ti super= rtx 4070
rtx 4080= rtx 4070 super
rtx 4090= rtx 4090
nvidia totally changed spprox all of their card names so they can charge as more as they want which is really absurd
So, rtx 4070 ti super si close to rtx 4080 and have most of performance of rtx 4090 for about half of its price. I think that this is very good gpu.
350$ for 5 fps more? No thx.
3:51 rtx 4070 ti super its a Epic Fail, temp higher than rtx 4080. How?💩🤦♂
You are aware different models have different temps and noise? 4070tiS reference model is pretty shit since they didn't have a FE version.
It's just 4070 Ti 16 gb. This video card fixes standard 4070 Ti
You're right, 4090 is the only way to go.
Hi, thanks for showing off the 4080 Super
A pretty close comparison. So close in fact its barely noticeable. You would be fine buying either of these cards. The only thing I noticed is that the 4070ti super was drawing more power. That might be a deciding factor. Well that and if you can get a good price on the 4070ti super then the higher power draw might not even be an issue. I myself have a 4080 but I got mine before the 4070ti super was available. I'm still happy with my 4080.
4080 vs 7900xt vs 3090 😂
they must of used the bottom of the barell 103 dies cause they should have similar preformance
Why? Having the same die doesn't mean the same performance? Most of the time, it's within 10% of the 4080 which is exactly where we expected to see it.
Not really, 4080 still has 15% more cuda cores and 6% better bandwidth. These results are to be expected.
@@AxleLotl it should be at most 10% ahead the Card is closer to 15-20% slower also the 4070ti super hás Higher clocks
@@reiudfgq3vrh34ur Clock speed isn't everything.
Me while I watching this with my RX 7800 XT: xD
Thanks for the video. Now I know that rtx 4070 ti super is a scam 👍
Такой же , как и 4070s . Херня из под коня
"Scam", okay buddy. What is an actual scam is the 4080 costing 33% more and struggling to deliver 10% more performance.
4080 definitely not worth it over 4070ti super for the price with a tiny bit of more performance.
Where can I find this for 850 bucks 🙂
Idk, here in europe they start at 900 bucks.
Good job! 4K, at last.
4070 Ti Super is for 4k. Thank you very much.
No it's a 1440p card
@@i3l4ckskillzz79 man I use 3060 Ti in 4k. (middle settings)
@@anton_developerToo weak for 4K in modern AAA games. Not even talking about the 8 Go of vram…
@@i3l4ckskillzz79Nah, there are much cheaper 1440p cards. This is an ultrawide GPU.
do what you want with your 1080p gpu@@anton_developer
My rog strix 4070ti super boosts to 2950 and i haven't touched core or memory clocks
Lol at that price of the strix better get 4080super for a little more
In febuary 2025, rtx5070 16gb will be launched and perform a little better than 4070tiS close to 4080 for 600$ also 5070ti 16gb will perform 10-15% faster than 4080super for 800$.
I bet this prediction.
Polite suggestion: please start testing games with frame generation too when using 40 series with games that support it.
Someone buying a 40 series is going to use it. For example, testing DLSS quality + frame generation with RT on in Cyberpunk/Witcher.
This isn’t a dig at you, but it seems like every single channel just flat out refuses to turn frame generation on and it’s bizzare to me. It’s a great technology for single player games and a selling point of the cards.
I don't get it either it literally doubles your fps without almost no drawback
@@drunkhusband6257 latency is a big drawback for a lot of people
I haven't noticed any latency increase with frame generation on...but I also have a 240hz OLED monitor, so others experience maybe different.@@missake212
@@missake212 That’s true, but that’s also why I said for single player games. You can’t feel the latency in single player at all. It’s only a problem in competitive titles.
@@graveyarddead753 it really depends, if you use dlss + fg in certain game you will definitely feel it, it also differs from person to person and what type of game you're playing
They are selling 4080 and 4070 TiS at almost 1-2% price difference here in India. 4070 tis is just a gimmic and a product they would had released as normal 4070ti instead of super. Shameless nvidia as usual.
4080 WINS 🔥
For price 4070ti s is better
Yaayy... 8 fps more for an extra $400
the difference isnt even 20 frames for the price which is still expensive but more reasonable i guess go for 4070ti s if ya want 4080 perf..
4070 ti super VS 3090 ti
Yeah they are kind of equal at least According to techpowerup
then it will be RTX 4070 TI SUPER TI 😂
double ti has never happened. but maybe it will be... 4070 ti super - 24gb
4o7o TI Super vs 4o8o
4K
+ % 4o8o
Cyberpunk + 12,2
Starfield + 11,8
Hogwarts + 14,3
Alan Wake II + 17,5
Last of Us I + 12,7
Avatar + 17,2
RDR II + 15,6
Forza 5 + 13,7
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~ 14,4 %
Why did they make 4070 TI super? It so silly.
whyyyyyyyy, WHY would you use DLSS to test the raw performance of 2 cards..... Why use it in Cyberpunk, Allan Wake 2, and Avatar, but then dont in others. The comparison is useless.
Can we get some comparisons with the 30 series pls?
Make Rtx 4070ti Super vs rtx 3090ti...
Well 4070 Super - not super. Waste of money! 4080 More better!
4070 ti super
4070 super are the best for the price
Rip
4080 and super
4060 and ti
4k makes them look close. but its still slower than the 7900xt
But it can actually handle RT. Definitely worth considering especially outside the US where pricing of these two is similar. Less than 50 bucks difference for each cheapest model.
The only 3 40s series cards that were good:
4060
4070 super
4090
The other is completely overpriced and not good at all
I agree 👍
Delusional lmfao, you mean to say the 4090 isn't extremely overpriced? I wouldn't pay a dime above $1200 for it.
@@anitaremenarova6662 It's a halo product, not a "price to performance" class of card.
The 4060 has only 8GB and even gets beaten by the 3060 in some games. If you think this is good you have issues.
Кастрированная 4060 хорошая карта?😂 Это самая худшая карта 40 линейки.
7900XTX - 900 €uros - Better choice
Where can you find one that cheap lmao
4080 is more power efficient
Prices are incorrect
They aren't.
Здравствуйте, целесообразно ли продавать 3070, добавлять 50k и приобретать 4070 ti super?
Сравните их по производительности, думаю прирост будет ощутимый если вы используете монитор от 2к и выше, + в том что разница в видеопамяти в два раза. Конечно если вас устраивает ФПС в тех играх что вы играете, то не стоит заморачиваться.
Нет, нецелесообразно. Подождите новое поколение, в сентябре или октябре будут новые карты. В целом неудачное поколение, даже 4090 слабая. Летом продам свою 4090, пока она не подешевела, добавлю и возьму 5090. А может и не возьму, игр особо и нет.
Faudrait peut être penser à mettre warzone car tout ces jeux on s’en bat les couilles quoi
not much difference with a 4070 ti
Увидеть бы Тест ещё на 7800x3d.
Awesome comparison video! Looks like the 4070 Ti Super is the better deal, with slightly less performance. BTW, Your video gets extra points for using a Dodge Challenger. @8:04
4080 is faster
4070 ti super vs 4090
And with DLSS3 + Frame Generation, what is the score?
4070 ti super = 4070 ti oc
4070 TI SUP OC=4080
No, in titles where the VRAM matters it's beating the regular ti by more than 20%, not something you can achieve by overclocking.
@@over952 Don't talk nonsense. Even if you overclock the 4070 ti super, the performance won't even come close to the 4080.
@@anitaremenarova6662 The actual performance of the 4070ti Super is about 3-5% of the 4070ti. This is no different from overclocking the 4070ti. And bandwidth and vram don't mean much. The problem is the CUDA core. The CUDA core is close to the 4070ti, and there is definitely a big difference from the 4080.
@@aisuotome1413 The difference between the two is about 6-10 percent performance, so if you overclock 4070ti sup a bit, the difference will be at the margin of error🤏
Mmmh... useless refresh...
Look at the temp of 13900k 👀 wich is your cooler?
13900k always runs hot, it was meant to run all out.
@@drunkhusband6257 ... what r you talking about? I mean ot has very low temp, did u see the video?
Yeah his monitoring software is messed up, he has the 13900k running as low as 40c in games...which isn't even possible@@OmnianMIU
где 21:9
pls can you with 3090
Эти карты не для 4к, зачем тестить в 4к? Где 1440р ?
Если не страдать ртх манией то фпс под сотню везде будет в 4к.
Кто сказал, что они не для 4K? Они подходят для 4K. Они производительней RTX 3090 Ti, большинство обладателей которых брали под 4K+ матрицы.
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