Ford vs. GM vs. Ram: Only One of These New HD Diesel Trucks Is the BEST Off-Road...But Which One?
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
2:03 Slowest Drag Race
3:23 The "Overbite"
7:58 Framebender
9:40 1/4-mile Drag Race
13:26 One Tree Hill
15:40 MPG Test
17:54 The Wall 
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This is like Saturday morning cartoons for men. Great video again guys.
Wait, you guys don't still watch Looney Tunes?
@@Jay-me7gwonce in a while never hurts
That’s what I’m saying man! Happy holidays boys.
Why is this so accurate?
@@Jay-me7gw I do!! At age 49 lol BUT I would have to say the Ford is the Road Runner in this match, The GM is Speedy Gonzalez, and the Ram is Slow Poke Rodrigues and yes Slow Poke carries a "Big Gun" lmaco!!!!
For that much money, they should come with a lifetime bumper to bumper warranty
The thing is Ram used to offer a Lifetime Powertrain Warranty on their older trucks. Not these days and with the prices of trucks going up? 👎
@@nareshangelia-sookrajjr.1365 I owned a Ram with a "lifetime" powertrain warranty. It was entirely useless marketing, because people don't understand how a warranty works. Warranties cover defects, not wear and tear items over the long-term. The dealers got fed up trying to explain the difference between normal wear and actual defects to customers driving trucks with 150k+ miles, so Chrysler just dropped the "lifetime" warranty policy for a standard X year / X mile warranty.
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And a build quality that makes the warranty an afterthought
If u look around u can find lifetime powertrain Warranty included with a new vehicle
125k and no locker... quite the impressive off roader you got there
It has a rear locker and front LSD. It has the largest tires best gearing, best articulation and most power. But yes I agree for this money they could have added one to make it fully locked.
Only a small handful of new vehicles are available with a true locking front diff. Thinking Powerwagon and Rubicon and possibly a few others. I wonder if there could be some liability concerns causing manufacturers to shy away.
@@failranch9542 my point is it's an over priced truck that was modified and they still didn't put lockers in it. It's really just a mall crawler
@@failranch9542Ranger Raptor has a front locker
@@tman3831All of them are, I don’t understand why someone would buy an off road oriented HD truck. At most you’d need a rear locker and AT tires. If you need more than that buy a jeep or stop doing stupid crap with your towing vehicle.
All the trucks need to have kitchens and bathrooms, b/c at those prices I'd have to live in them.
And, there's the risk of an early 90's "beater" (without insurance), could T-bone you, flipping it over and totaling it!
Thank you Tommy for actually recognizing the fact the gmc is technically a "factory" truck despite it's AEV upgrades... The fact it did hang with the TFL ram and the modded ford shows just how seriously gm is taking the off-road segment since losing Hummer as it's own dedicated brand.
There is nothing worse than foreigners saying these trucks are cheap much less driving them comparing to their European version of a truck….. maybe the had those in the 40’s. Ahh g wagon yall call that a truck
Why the Ram wasn’t specced with the anti slip diff is beyond me. All that work and upgrades on a peg leg.
@@dbag6993 Right on!
Only takes 2 extra cylinders for them to catch up. Hahaha, losers
Ford has too much weight with all that crap on it
One of your best videos yet. Love this format. Please do the same with the half tons. Preferably all stock and in the most popular trims rather than the high end units. Keep up the good work and looking forward to the mini truck.
Why so the losers can deny ford again? Lol
Great video, but these prices are absolutely nuts. I remember when y'all bought your TRX and it was like $87k and thinking "this is a crazy high price for a truck" and now here we are. This is not sustainable.
Check out the used truck videos then
TRX at my local dealer is $128,000. Looked at it but was not expecting that price. 😬
@@SaltyDog69 I could never. I was searching F350s the other day and you can find the XLs for sub-$60k all day long. Lift it, out some proper off road shocks and tires on it, hell, supercharge it, and you'll still be all in for several tens of thousands less than a TRX. Yeah, you'll miss out on a nicer cabin but you'll still have a backup camera, cruise control, power windows and locks, keyless entry and have enough money left over to buy a new Tacoma lmao.
@@backwoodstherapy My last Ford was an xl, I don’t even use 1/2 of the expensive convenience items on my vehicle now.
@@SaltyDog69 yeah I'm on a JLU Sport. I have power locks, windows, keyless entry, android auto, and cruise control. I'm sure heated massaging seats would be nice but I see it as something more to break in the future.
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Enjoyed the reviews boys! I'd like to see apples to apples though. I understand most are coming straight from a dealer with whats delt. Or highly modified the way they're received. Ultimately the cheapest easiest upgrade to a 4x4 truck is ground clearance and tire setup. Review these things with the same lifts and the exact same M.T. tires. No more apples and oranges! Cheers, boys!
You guys have done a lot to introduce content of vehicles in the affordable realm is fun to take a dip into this land every once in a while! Excellent video guys
The video is comparing brands yet you have a stock GMC 2500, a modified Dodge 2500 and heavily modified Ford 3500. Doesn’t seem like an equal comparison.
It’s the TFL way. They are beholden to ford and Toyota.
F350 not 3500, and the towing, torque, hp, payload are near identical.
@@codyhannigan6322mods matter especially off road. But you know that which is why you’re here trying to act like it doesn’t
@@codyhannigan6322 They're not. Because the Ram 2500 S.O. Engine is lower in HP and Torque. If you wanted closer, you need the 3500 which has the H.O.
Great video, but the clip of the small truck at the end was gold. I can't wait for that one!
I heard more revs and laughter out of the tiny truck clip than the entire trip of the heavy trucks. That sounds like a good time!
More blown away by the cost than the capability! Fun vid to watch. *I* was nervous watching you guys navigate the frame bender.
Hey have you guys tried to turn off esc on the rams. Holding the traction control button for ten secs while in 4 lock or 4 low. It actually locks both front and rear differentials. Love the videos guys.
Vids like this is why I love you guys! Thanks!
WE NEED A TOWING VIDEO WITH 3 OF THESE BEASTS 🔥 you guys do such a good job !
I'm sure its coming
That’s not even a competition Cummins is way stronger and can hold way more power then a ford or duramax
Ford outpulls both hands down all day everyday
@@SamuelAdamsv-ul9yj Ford smokes the weenie ram , not even close.
@@SamuelAdamsv-ul9yj not really... the Ford has best towing capacity according to a long list of reviews (True Car, Car & Driver, Road & Track, Four Winds Trailer, MotorTrend, Kelly Blue Book, CarFax, and the list goes on) read up.
And NOBODY wants a Dodge transmission.
Gotta agree with Tommy on the best truck. That GMC did get it done in stock form! It’s truly modified, but the manufacturer got involved instead and as such, full warranty!
At the end, Roman in the mini-truck,,,,,😂😂. He was smiling and laughing all the way! He doesn’t exactly fit, but then he would stand head and shoulders over the majority of the intended drivers from where that truck was made!! Haha. I’m 5’8” tall and I feel like, in a crowd there, what these 4 must feel like in a crowd here in North America!! 😂😂. I actually fit in the mini trucks quite well actually.
It was great seeing Roman having that much fun!!
Dang 18.2 on 37s with emissions in tack is impressive. And to be the most powerful at that.
GM is just as powerful... the numbers are underrated on the new d max
@@handleymacdonald5760 sure is slower to be just as powerful….
@handleymacdonald5760 in that case so are the powerstrokes
@@eliasgutierrez6789 well I mean considering the fact that they’re just as fast as each other and 1 is rated for 200ft lbs less of torque I’m pretty sure that doesn’t include the power stroke…
@@handleymacdonald5760You must have fast forwarded past the drag race. If you watch it, you will see the GMC behind the Ford just like it normally is.
$125,000 and it doesn't come standard with a front locker? That's ridiculous.
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Surprising, the GMC stock actually out performed modified Ford and Ram in most cases, GM is on to something.
Wait till the timing belt change
Bwahaaaa😅
@@rickreese5794 You talking about the 3.0 in the half tons?
@@wbsa8941
Yep
@@rickreese5794 the 6.6's have timing chains, not belts numb nuts.
GMC is the best
Great test I would like to see a rerun of this test with the same trucks but in the gas hd version
I love how you reviewed work trucks for everything except working.
I would love to work with these guys and do these off road and towing tests they get to do. Some of my favorite stuff and they get paid to do it!
I’m a Chevy guy but there’s no better truck anymore. All of the BIG 3 make a nice god damn truck
Can’t you make your point without taking our Lord’s name in vain?
All trucks suck now
@@TXAG81 ... your lord
I'm more blown away by the cost of these trucks now...
fr. Are they worth the price? Technically yes, when you consider costs. However, I wish companies would make cheaper ones and just exclude all the fancy gadgets so that it CAN be cheap
You can get all of these down to about 55k not saying that’s cheap but it’s not 6 figures and you can get them used but I do agree and 30,000$ 1 ton truck is very much needed
@@OutbackExotics55k-$70k is well within reason for what I'd spend for a truck like this. Agree.
What’s really sad, is that my 2004 Chevy Duramax 2500hd gets 22 on the highway. It might not tow quite as much or be as quick but it tows really well considering all. Most I’ve towed with it is 17000 pounds which is 2000 over the limit back in the day. Up all the hills it did very good. Definitely worth the 15,000 dollars we spent
I guarantee early 2000s diesels will hold their own towing with newer ones they just aren't equipped with as much stopping power. Older diesels have more raw power.
@@bhswarrior94 that is so true. But if you delete a newer one I could see it being quite a bit more powerful.
Thank you very much for all this information. All the truck store little surprising but we know they are still meant more for the mud.
Love this series!
Can’t wait for the tiny trucks! Hope all your backs survived riding in those little things!
Great video TFL, but all these nice new trucks have winches. You guys should integrate using the winches up those obstacles.
Awesome Video, I actually currently live in Fruita Colorado so that is a neat thing to see you guys here, also a ford guy so this was a cool video to see for that reason also.
I really want that GMC! It's just way to much money! You guys remind me of an American, Clarkson, Hammond and May. From the "Grand Tour."
I'd love to see a collaboration with them.
You guys have the best job ever!!
I will say unless they locked out each truck in first gear for the slowest drag, those results don’t mean much as most trucks will upshift to 2-3 in 4 low when not feeling any resistance.
I'm sure they did. They would have been in 'low-low' lowest gear+low range. They know what they're doing
Nice video as always. When is the Cybertruck review?
Thank you guys for the videos of the SUV. I am a fan of SUVs. I am following you from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia 👍
For a recommendation do a Dakota, S10, Ranger series next! Love the series!!!!
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Y’all are cra cra for taking those out there and doing that but I LOVE IT!
That's what they are for!!!
It's a four wheel drive truck!!!!!
Yep……cra crayyyyyyyy
Where did they get them? Personal trucks, viewer trucks, dealerships, manufacturer? It’s crazy to see this content and then think about who’s truck it is. I understand it’s what they are built for but still a lot of money
@@chrisncars317 the manufacturer's lend them the tfl for testing.
@@philllsxga.7737 makes sense. Thanks for the insight! Still amazing content. Just good to know where they are coming from lol
Love the Duramax, don’t love the price tag!! Great video guys!!
RUclips Gale Banks killing a Duramax...
Maybe be better than a Cummins....
@@philllsxga.7737THANK YOU
@@philllsxga.7737dodge is DEAD
I loaded up a xl and added leather,heated seats and a raptor steering wheel, 35” tires , interior upgrades….2022 51000
Note to TFL staff. The power wagon splits it's power 50% front 50% rear. My 03 Ram 1500 split the front 40% the rear 60% and my gear ratio is lower in the power wagon transfer case.
for that 3 trucks A+.....Great work......Awsome video
Dang you guys are better entertainers then news reporters and you your team is awesome at getting the news! ❤❤❤ this team is the TOP GEAR of America's on a budget.
It would have been great if you guys were able to keep the Tremor for this challenge.
Ford hid ?😮
@@rickreese5794more like an advertisement for Elevation Off Grid that modified the Ford. Ford isn’t hiding from any challenge.
@@Captain-Awesome
Been around trucks a long time, Capt. A.
Not sure the 2013 up F150s are worth having,
Also the 5.4 is problematical. Most light duty
American trucks are retro engineered to meet
C.A.F.E. requirements. Ford has big financial problems
Coming soon, as do other manufacturers.
@@rickreese5794 I have no idea what you are trying to say other than you believe the big three are in financial trouble.
Okay…
That had nothing to do with my comment.
@Captain-Awesome
The t00l wrote something about a motor that hasn't been in production for 14 years.....he's a regular rocket surgeon!!
Those old WW2 White Half Tracks with the big roller built into the front bumper make sense now!
Haha the Slow Drag Race is Hilarious. 😂
Awesome video. My question, does the ram not have a locker at all? You guys definitely needed the power wagon as the control..
Want the new Cummins. But for the price, we should get the Aisin and high output standard on 2500 and 3500
Only comes in the 3500 correct?
@@goprozack4255 yes 3500 HO Cummins has the Yota trans!
All of these trucks look phenomenal.. price aside
First of all, this was a fun video. That said, who in their right mind would be off roading (especially in Moab) an HD truck? And if you do you would go with a Tremor or a Power Wagon or whatever GMC/Chevys version of that is. And you go with a gasser not a diesel. Next, all three of these are capable and it comes down to personal preference and pocketbook. And as many have commented here, the cost of these trucks is out of control.
I know the Ford is the most capable, best looking, and will hold its resale the best, the Chevy as always is a blueprint rip of the Ford down to the area 51 blue, but the Dodge you have to respect for being original... even though Dodge by definition means to avoid I would still drive it!
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Anyone have an idea of which of the 3 has a tighter turning radius? Thats one thing that cant be improved compared to things like ride height or removing a sway bar for articulation.
Wow the prices are insane. That's like buying a house.
Thank you guys for the honest review and the hard work. No offense to you guys by any means. I’m a ford fan I have been for a longer time , but actually in this competition test and based on the ridiculous price that FORD, GM, And RAM charge, all of the Trucks suck ass. I hope people wake up and realize not to buy at those prices because at the end we didn’t see anything extraordinary on any of the trucks.
So what is your proposal on what people should buy that are in need of a tow vehicle?
That's like saying, people shouldn't buy houses at these prices... but people need to live somewhere, and not once in my life have prices ever dropped. I mean a few Ks here, and there, sure. But what's 3k off of 100k?
@@deal492these are 75% status vehicles and 25% tow vehicles(at best). If a person NEEDS a tow vehicle, there’s plenty of better suited options for much less than what these ones cost.
The people that buy these care about how it looks in their driveway. You can get a diesel 2500 version of these with good options for about 30k cheaper, but bros want flashy instead.
@@deal492you easily buy much cheaper tow rigs just as capable, NEW EVEN.
@@herbwheeler4470 I agree, but he made a very generalized statement.
You sure can. Buy a new SD diesel for like 55k.
This vid made me glad I recently bought a 2023 Power Wagon level 3. Even at 80-85k for my truck, still very expensive but does way more than I could imagine.
Going to grocery store, mall, revving engine at stop lights, driving like a jerk?
Dodge ram suck! Make sure you have a healthy account for repairs
I've had far more time in a superduty off road but I had a HD2500 for a number of months(all work trucks). The HD hood is hard to see over, is my worst gripe, the comfort on road is a little soft off road. None of which are a deal breaker but I lean slightly ford. Both are great trucks though. The real question is since you're stuck with the dealer during the warranty period. Which dealer near you is going to treat you right? That can be a wide delta from area to area.
Y’all should have put the Silverado 2500 ZR2. I know it is part of GM just like the GMC but still, at least have all the American brands.
That Ford is a beast, but that GMC is beautiful. I’d be happy with either. With the Ram - if your down 130HP and have a lift kit but no rear diff lock, you’re doing it wrong. Maybe if I was towing constantly the ram may be better. Cummins and 6 speed is decent for longevity and mileage. If I was to buy one (Stock of course), I’d drive test drive the F350 first, then make sure I test drive the GMC second - then I’d sign the paperwork. Really like that GMC.
I don’t know how much of difference it made, but the gmc drag raced both trucks. The fuel economy could have suffered because of it. Great video!!
Did the MPG test include the drag race?
MPG was a separate day on the way to Moab!
Possible regen is the culprit…
Great video as always, love when you got all the guys together.
Thanks for the kind comment. Very much appreciated!
Another solid video guys
Heavy D is sold on that liquid Spring suspension. Has it under a new off-road RV ram
Great video, only test that was not accurate was fuel mileage. The Duramax would have been closer too the other 2 if it hadn't been the only truck that raced every quarter mile race. The ram and for each only ran 2 passes, the duramax ran 4 which probably accounts for most of that extra gallon.
18.2mpg with 1200 ft/lbs of torque, 500 hp and high elevation, all with a lift, bigger tires, and extra weight is honestly pretty damn good. At sea level my 2014 silverado with 3.08 gears and the 5.3 was getting 24.6 mpg, and it only had 355hp and 383 torque.
I could be wrong, but from the order the tests were shown. I'm not sure they accounted for the additional diesel use for the Chevy/GM when calculating the MPG. When they all filled up, the Chevy/GM had used more fuel. But I don't think they accounted for the fact that the Chevy raced both a standing as well as a rolling 1/4 mile against both the other trucks. It raced twice as often as either of the others, which would account for the difference in fuel consumption.
14:30 😂. Any time Nathan is climbing a hill it's all about the gas.
Great content guys! It’s not your fault these trucks are so expensive
Actually, it is partially their fault these trucks are so expensive. It's the journalists that are always saying it needs more tech, it needs more camera's, it needs more features. Now they have them..... and the price reflects that.
I wish these where even playing fields
But i still love it
Love this channel and the content. But we can all agree that a fair comparison can’t really be made with a straight 6 to a diesel V8. Plus the Ford should be a 250 also not a 1 ton. Otherwise keep up the good work!!
Instead of regular ram u should bring the power wagon that a game changer
I have a 2022 F250 PS Lariat FX-4 with fixed running boards.
When I go to Moab, my SuperDuty will be towing my lifted 2012 JK Rubicon.
Impressive to see people with HD diesel trucks on such trails, but my Jeep is enough of a money pit.
18:50 those side steps lol
Gm trucks really stepped up hd trucks and light duty, and mid size
All these trucks need for the problem of having "limited rear axle articulation" is a highly custom mod: SANDBAGS in the bed, a payload to flex the springs. With that, I'm sure they could ALL conquer Overbite and anything else more easily.
I know yalls ram is pretty close to a aev prospector, but what about the aev prospector xl? I dont think ive seen yall mention it ever in any of these expensive truck videos and that thing would have been awesome to see in moab haha.
I have a 2023 F-150. The Ford 10 speed transmissions have a very slow downshift in any drive mode that isn’t sport. I would assume it’s the same way for the power stroke
How fast were you guys driving on the highway? I hit 70 MPH in my EcoBoost and my mileage drops to around 15 MPG. But local 55 MPH roads can get me around 17-19 MPG. So is the fuel efficiency gap closing between regular and full sized trucks? Is it time to step up???
The worst part of these is that manufacturers actually think ANY of these pickups is actually worth $100,000 !! That's just ridiculous any way ya look at it....
Can't wait for the tiny trucks
Great video guys.
What I would do is back up a little bit and turn the wheel either to the left or right and go at an angle and guaranteed. You'd get up that hill.
Buen día,😊 los felicito por sus videos y comentarios sobre las pickup que prueban saludos desde Córdoba, Argentina
great video guys!!!
Cool shootout of the houses!
Cool ! Thanks guys!
My 2011 deleted 6.7 f350 crew cab FX4 only gets 13.9 mpg. That is lifetime average at over 350k miles and I haul heavy trailers 2-4 days a week. New engine is surely more efficient. The $100k price tag makes my old truck seem perfect though.
It may an optical illusion due to camera angle, light, etc… but at minute 20:22 the tie rod on the GMC looks like it has a slight bend
How smooth was the ford driving? I’m considering liquid springs in my truck. I had them in my old f550
The Gmc is handsome
Can you do a 2023/24 Ford HD Shelby Baja off-road?.
Was the ford in 4wd on the overbite section? The front tires were grabbing , but weren’t spinning like the backs were
I want to see a carli suspension equip truck vs those 3. Those lift doesnt have travel
When the rams butt hit, it was because they drove it over too. Fast and it was just a slight bump because it bounced. The other two didn't have no clearance by comparison they had to drag their butts
did GM improve the traction control? looks like it's applying the brake on the free spinning front wheel.. The other vid showed this too.
All of those trucks should have had no problem with Overbite. Makes me wonder if you forgot to turn on front and rear lockers, and air down even more.