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Would love to see you optimize the cybertruck battery usage somehow. Have you tire upgrades made it better in terms of battery consumption? How about self charging on the slopes? Would love to know more about that. It is so interesting!
Next gotta get a broke cyber truck. Do a cummins swap!❤ roll some coal on tesla cars. Then add some electric motors for the first diesel hybrid tesla and go millions of miles😂😂😂
You made cybertruck look a custom beast compared to stock silver truck. That's only thing I haven't liked about them. With it painted and proper offroad tyres its transformed. Avagud1
Diesel is just incredibly energy dense bro the cybertruck pulls harder maintains higher speeds but for way short distances because its energy density in the battery is low and it takes forever to charge up. The diesel takes off slower but when youre going 70 all day long across the country you want the range to be up there and the refill times to be quick.
If you really think about it… you beat him by a minute and 30 seconds but if this was a 400 mile test he’d have you beat by hours because of all the down time charging 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mikeflanary642 EV technology has been being worked on for over 100 years and has come quite a ways, but as far as efficiency, practicality, and durability as of right now, the internal combustion engine is still king.
@robertchristianson1187 they don't need better batteries. 100 extra miles wouldn't solve the issue. They need a quick way to replace them like AA batteries. That's the only way I see it being the future
@@droidmotorola3884 The only way that solution makes sense would be at gas stations(or, battery stations) that kept a stock of charged batteries that could be interchanged for customer’s low batteries. But that only solves part of the issue. What if you need to go somewhere remote? Or what if you’re out late? Or what if bad weather prevents battery stations from opening/having electricity to charge batteries. I suppose you could at all times keep an extra battery, but those things are massive and extremely heavy. Even the strongest of grown men would struggle mightily to change an EV battery on the side of the road, if it would be possible at all.
@@SM-McKraken I agree ☝️ I can’t imagine buying a truck and I couldn’t haul anything long distance. Even my suv can haul mid size loads across the country. I guess it depends on what each person intends to use it for. If you only haul things locally then it seems ok, but pulling an RV or anything long distance is just impractical.
At 97 mpg equivalent, the cybertruck holds 4 gallons of gas worth of power. EVs get away with it because they are super efficient in turning that into movement and recover energy going downhill. But there is no efficiency you can gain from an electric motor hauling 10,000 lbs uphill at 80mph. If it takes a diesel truck 2 gallons of fuel it will take an electric truck at least 1.5 gallon equivalent of energy (you still get a 50% boost from not running a full ICE drivetrain and heat losses) And there goes half your charge. Long haul towing won't be a thing electric trucks can do until we get batteries equivalent to at least 10 gal of diesel fuel (1300 kw/h) the cybertruck claimed it's towing model would ship with a 500 kw/h battery, the beast version only has 125 kw/h. Battery tech just isn't ready.
I love how logical Heavy D always is about stuff. Like how he doesn’t try to act like EVs are perfect and it can replace all of his other vehicles but rather that there is a time and a place to enjoy both.
I bough it , unfortunately . . No matter how healthy it is -- drinking stagnant pond water isn't worth it . Absolutely horrendous grimy , slimy and revolting taste / smell . Smells more like old pond water mixed with chinese industrial waste chemicals .
@@jpmkiv Learn the challenges of modern EVs. You are talking about the cab, the motor struggles in the cold. Chicago recently had a lot of Teslas die in subzero temps.
I did a 3,000 mile cross country trip twice with a 2002 stock gas powered Chevy Tahoe with a total payload of 14,000 pounds. This was accomplished with a stock hitch rated at 7,900 lbs. I did it by myself in 3 days. I did have to stop about every 180 miles to gas up. I challenge you to a competition.! I will use my stock Chevy Tahoe and you can use your cyber truck! We leave at the same time, follow the same route, and let's see who gets there quicker. Or I can do it with my 2011 dually Ram 3500!
If you watched the video you would know he said he would not use the CyberTruck for Towing out of town. For the guys that tow within the range of the truck it is actually a very good tow vehicle. For longer your going to burn a lot of time and there are not enough pull through chargers yet. Over time the battery density and charging time will improve but why not use a diesel and save some time.
I did watch the video. It was a good video. I was just pointing out that I could do better with an old Tahoe then a $100,000 cyber truck. I appreciate your response.@@danharold3087
Time is money, and with that benchmark, diesel is going to win. Tesla and other EV makers need to improve battery technology by a factor of 4x to even match diesel engines in the transportation business. How long this will take is anyone's guess. It's going to take novel engineering and ingenuity to double energy capacity in batteries. That's merely 2X. I'm betting on QS, but not the whole ranch.
Don't know why everyone thinks they have to do 80 towing a trailer. That's where you lose efficiency let alone it's not safe. So if this ain't practical then it's not a fair review.
Do a test where you tow the cybertruck using a tow strap (all four wheels on the pavement) using the 5500 at highway speeds and see how long it takes to get a full charge using only regen braking, and how much diesel the 5500 uses doing it.
@@jamescreekmore3855 Depends, the supposed "dangers" of towing an EV is simply over charging it if you tow them long enough on a full battery. But that only really applies to very old EV's (or very very cheap ones) as most modern EV's just open the circuit when the battery is full or near full. Which basically means the motors turn freely without resistance and without generating power. It's also the reason why you lose regenerative braking when on full battery. So no, it's not a bad idea, not with a Tesla. At least not more so than flat towing in general, though with EV's you also don't have to worry about damaging the drivetrain on AWD variants, like the case with most ICE cars.
I would like to see it loaded with about 2000 lbs of tools, wire, parts or whatever. Then drive it around town and the suburbs all day to see what kind of range it would get. I definately love the teck and the performance of this thing and I have one on "pre order" but I want to know what it can do in the real world for a service based electrical contractor.
Why on earth would you ever want one of these as an electrical contractor? Even a regular pickup isn't the best vehicle for your business and a Cybertruck is far more impractical/unreliable than a regular pickup. You could have a fully kitted out sprinter/transit for less money and it would be 100x more practical.
@markadler8968 My service truck is a Ram 2500 cummins with a Miranda box on it with my tools and and materials in it. It's by far the best option for me as the box with its kit can be easily swapped out on to another truck. The fuel economy isn't horrible for somting its size and weight. The 4x4 in winter is a nessassary as I don't have time to shovel out parking spots down town. I have a Sprinter as well. I'm dissipointed with it. It's really expensive for what is, basically a high roof regular 2 wheel drive delevery van. Out of the fleet the sprinters have the worst maintenance record. They are really bad in the winter as far as getting in and out of snow banks. I also have an E-Transt. It's head and shoulders over the sprinter as far as toughness and technology go. The bolt in points on the Transit are far more solid than the sprinter. The sprinters racking actually pulled the factory nuts right out of the ribs. The transit also requires virtually no maintenance. It's only MAJOR downfall is the range. In good weather you get 250kms in cold winter conditions that gets cut in half. My Ram is a Long Horne so... it costs what it costs, my truck, my toy I don't care 🤣 . A new Sprinter base model is around 70k about what I paid for the E-Transit. If I got a base model Ram it would be around what the sprinter is but 4 times the truck. The Miranda box is a one time cost so I don't count it in equation. In my experience the Sprinters were ok back in the day when they were 500$ a month as that offset the ridiculous MB maintenance costs. BTW, get rid of all of them before the warranty is up. Especially the Sprinter, they can generate horrific repair bills.
@@greggardner3154 That still doesn't change the fact that the C truck is hugely impractical for work use. How exactly are you planning on putting a Miranda box on a truck with a bed like the C truck?
@markadler8968 Not planning to put a Miranda box on the Cyber Truck. As my business has evolved I probably don't need the cargo space of the Ram that much. I spend more time runnig to jobs to help out my guys, doing estimates, PR with clients etc... I could comfortably get by with fewer items than I halul around now. The CT would probably almost pay for itself in fuel savings and no maintenance. I really appreciate the E Transit for that aspect. If I can get 350 to 450 kms a day out of the CT it would be an excellent option for me. I would still keep the Ram for long trips and trailer hauling. Both the Etransit and the Sprinter are not good for towing. Never even tried it with the ETransit as we all know how horrific that would be. The Sprinter is barley adequate to carry the stuff in it. Towing a trailer boom with it was no fun at all. I think it all comes down to what you need it for. If the Etransit hand a 400km range in cold weather, the Sprinter would have been gone long ago.
It always cracks me up when people think it matters how fast you go up a hill. One and a half minute difference, then you meet at a stop light and pass them
I don't think that they think it matters, I think its more about how it feels because they have experience towing a lot of weight, so when they get in the cyber truck it has a different experience ( I haven't experienced it my self but I have heard people say that it is almost like you cant even feel the load you are towing with the cyber truck or other EV vehicle ) but give the EV technology time, I do think that it will get better, kind of like cell phones ( just my .5 cents )
Thats a long time to wait. Battery tech has been around pretty much as long as internal combustion vehicles have. Look where I.C.E. is and look where battery tech is. First battery was made by Alessandro Volta in 1800 while the first ICE was made in 1807 by François Isaac de Rivaz
@@FLPhotoCatcher doesnt matter because when you are charging your truck in 80 miles, you will have to make up 1 and a half hours to just get caught back up to the diesel truck. By then youll have to stop to charge it again. The diesel truck will only have burnt a 1/4 tank of fuel at that point. You can have your 1 and a half minutes, ill take my 1 and a half hours i make up when you are charging the effin thing.
@@LMH710 It wouldn't have happened to a regular truck under the exact same circumstances... So yeah it's the problem with the cybertruck specifically.
@@LMH710 It happened because the Cyber-Trucks chassis is cast aluminum. It's brittle and not up to the task at hand. It doesn't take a genius to understand the flaw in the design. It's a terrible bit of engineering from a company that boasts about their engineering prowess.
@@Mekkicehyeah somebody lost their travel trailer almost causing a major accident. Also I want to note that when he broke the cyber truck he wasn't even trying to break it which says something to me. Now I know he's got the Goliath touch and anything he sets finger on turns to dust but he genuinely was not in any way rough on that truck I thought compared to some of the abuse his previous victim vehicles have seen. You remember the forest ranger truck that old Chevy held 800,000 lb of tree and still drove lol
You see the drone shot how he was driving down the middle of the road in his neighborhood and the approaching car had to kiss the curb for his safety. That told me a lot about this guy... all to make a video and some more bucks, to heck with anyone else on the road.
Hate ? Like all the poor people that purchased these and had instant problems ? Want me to post all the links ? And to pretend the range anxiety isn’t atrocious is just dishonest. The claimed range is crap and it’s final performance isn’t what it claims to be. Those are issues, not hate.
@@markadler8968 you can hate all you want but just making sure you're hating on all electric cars evenly. no use being a Tesla hater like anything doesn't have garbage range... its just where were at...all im sayin
I think Edison motors has created the perfect hybrid for tractor trucks. Hes working with another company i think making a smaller heavy duty truck hybrid.
Love the point of view at the end. I think people need to embrace all things to allow technology to advance and with time we will have more capable EVs. I drive a Jeep truck daily and haul a small camper for trips. When I get a new truck In the next couple years I think the cyber truck is pretty awesome but wonder would it work for my real life situation? I have a suggestion: Both trucks towing something like a 3-5000k lb camper (same weight for both trucks) and average camping gear in the bed for payload. Have both trucks doing the same 500-1000 mile road trip emulating real world travel/camping with both making the same planned overnight stops. Driving the actual speed limit (not racing to the destinations). Just driving like you would on a regular trip while towing. Then break down all the math. The fuel truck: how many stops to fill up with total mileage/ fuel cost and time spent filling up. Ease to fill up. The Cyber truck: how many stops for charging, time spent, cost to charge and ease to find charging station… for a real life typical road trip (I wonder would charging in between destinations be easy or cause a lot of anxiety?) That way we can see fuel vs electric for a realistic travel towing situation. I am curious how they will compare in a typical truck use situation with some longer range travel and not just being loaded to the max and going fast. I also would love to see the features of both trucks while camping. Maybe there will be many pros and cons to both trucks! 🧐
People criticizing EVs so much even though they are brand new technology compared to ICE which has had over 100 years to mature. It's silly and more ideological than it is honest and it really doesn't matter if states mandate EV's over the coming years because you simply won't have ICE vehicles available for sale anymore and gas stations will disappear... then you'll be able to joke about range of ICE when there's nowhere to get fuel because all the gas stations were turned into charging stations.
@@cjsiglerii That comment can't be taken seriously. Blatantly false. EVs have far superior acceleration, no emissions and they are incredibly quiet to drive - all objective "pro" to electric but don't let that interrupt your fantasies.
@mnn1265 fantasies?? Weird. You still haven't told me anything "pro" about it. Quiet?? I like the sound of a good engine. Emissions?? What's that 🤣, some California s**t?? Acceler Acceleration? Where the hell am I rushing to that my LS engine can't get me to just as fast?? Sound like more cons to me.
I mean to be fair the best pulling machines we've ever created, diesel-electric trains, that run all over the country are electric that run on electricity generated by a diesel engine.
I switched my 59 vw to electric it’s 4 times the torque and 3 times the HP. I just love conversion, dead quiet, it will go a 120 miles on around 3 dollars of electric, and it has a hell of a hole shot.
To people with company's and business's it's a right off its worth it to them.... plus it'll get him views on his RUclips it's a smart move... it's not a everyday Joe kinda rig
@@jeremyedwards7357 For businesses, you save a ton on fuel and maintenance. So you get more out of it the more you use it. For regular drivers it's either about power, or acceleration, or just a gimmick.
I like the embrace new tech speech, this was a great vid to show you what it can and can not do. We have a Model Y and my wife uses it to drive around town to offset the milage on her Expedition. We have seen a huge savings in mileage and a significant decrease in fuel purchases, and bonus is we have free electricity at night and only charge during those hours.
The best thing about that truck is its towing hitch. So you can tow a diesel generator to extend the range. I wonder if you can charge it while driving?
@@jessesteeltown There is, people have made battery trailers out of old EV packs and hooked them up to their EV's to extend the range. You bypass the charge port so it doesn't think it's being charged.
Edison makes a diesel electric conversion kit for trucks. Converting your old square body into something with far greater range and way higher torque than most anything else on the market.
Why race them though, just run them normally, at legal speeds and give a better test for the range like this. See he did it the way a kid thinks, not yet a man.
New to the channel boaterhome brought me here but I stayed for the cybertruck truck. Love that you a true truck guy through ans through and you can use the cybertruck and enjoy it's greatest qualities. You have a far an honest opinion. I can't wait to binge your videos
Yeah, and you wasted 80% of a gas heating your engine every time you drive, ICE efficiency is anywhere between 10-20% so 80 cents of a dollar burning for nothing, but that doesn't bother you.
@@oleksandrmokrohuz5182doesn't bother me 1 bit. Most people pay for not having the inconvenience of sitting around for 45 min to charge vs driving and only gassing up once every couple of weeks. Or the lack of mileage you get in the winter with EV's. Just my opinion but no way I'd go EV the way things are today. Too much of an inconvenience.
@@oleksandrmokrohuz5182 It's more like 30% and diesel can get up to 45%. The efficiency of an EV isn't 100% either, plus there is a lot of power loss in the generation and transportation of the electricity before it gets to the vehicle.
@@robbyprice8247 If you're not hauling a trailer it rocks, and it rocks even if you're hauling a trailer. Battery tech needs to improve, more battery density per pound. It'll happen. Battery tech for EVs is still in its infancy, really.
The Cybertruck is sort of like a cheetah. It's uses a lot of energy for speed, but loses out on stamina. Stamina is one of the main reasons cheetahs lose their kill to other predators. Other predators simply wait for the cheetah to catch its prey. They swoop in for the steal after the cheetah kills the prey. The cheetah, having low stamina, is always too exhausted to defend its food and retreats. In the Cybertruck's case, it loses the race if it's a long distance journey. The stamina of this supposed utility car can't currently compete with ICE trucks. Mix that in with the need to stop more often and refuel, and it gets left in the dust of a gas guzzling pickup.
@@theodorehaskins3756 I'm not surprised someone like you can't see your fallacy. Did you even listen his comments about how this car wouldn't be good for long distance vs an ICE truck?
@@Wolf-vc4wj Running 80 MPH on a significant grade. Not saying anyone should use the CT for towing if they don't have the time to charge it. But I would like so see how much fuel the RAM burned and then compare the energy cost. I realize time is money for most people.
I’m honestly curious about the curb weight of those. Do you have the same payload, or is it reduced to accommodate the weight of batteries. The reason I ask is that I saw that there’s a company building add on electric for existing trucks that adds 20k lb to the combination. Surely the Tesla isn’t THAT much heavier, but I’m curious.
1) Howe many sheets of plywood can you load into the bed of the cyber "truck" compared to the Ram? 2) If you completely max out the battery of the cyber "truck", how do you get a container of electricity back to the vehicle so you can get home? 3) How long before the battery of a cyber "truck" gives out and needs to be replaced, and at what cost? The Ram will keep trucking past 300,000 miles or more, depending on how well it is maintained.
@@TheGreenGrower618 They might be in recyclable in theory but there is hardly anyone out there doing it. Tesla's semi warranty is meaningless because they have only produced a measly 100 trucks so far.
Thats what they said about plastic and now 97% ends up in landfills and oceans. if it's cheaper to make new than to recycle as with plastic you'll just have tons of chemicals sitting around until we send it overseas are just dump it in the oceans ourselves. doesn't sound very green to me. @@TheGreenGrower618
Your final few comments deserve a commendation . . I was really impressed . . I've worked on everything from dozers to F/A-18s and the comments I usually see leave me with little hope . .
Need to get ahold of Dave... Some friends of CLEETUS is stuck in Utah.. Had bad accident on a SXS had to have emergency surgery on his spine... He needs to get home but can only do it laying down... Race Rebuild Repeat is their channel.. Just throwing it out there if yall can do anything to help
It's about range and recharge times...that's the issue everybody is having with the electric trucks and cars for that matter. It's probably fine around town for short hops if you can get back home in time by the evening to recharge it.
The people who don't care about range because they can charge at home....those are the millions of people EV's are perfect for. Even when counting road trips, the average american drives 39 miles per day, or 14,000 miles per year. 270ish miles of range for $6 is hard to beat. Also waking up to a pre-cooled or prewarmed and charged car every day is pretty sweet as well. For towing or long distances over 400 miles a day, don't pick an EV.
Yep. For normal average daily driving use, if you have electricity at your home and can plug into a 220-240 volt outlet, the overall ownership experience is much better: always full, very convenient, no wasted time on any of the constant ICE car maintenance.
@chadcoady9025 Okay, put a trailer behind the Cyber-Truck, and its range 80 miles, as a truck it's useless. Average Americans that need a truck need to tow things. It's a truck, not a VW Bug. Average isn't the discussion
@fuzzo8483 Not when you're pulling a trailer and actually USING the truck as a truck. It's only that just driving it normally. He literally said he drove 65 miles and went from full to 25% left with his trailer attached. There's also other RUclips videos of people offroading it, and it gets shown out by a 30 year old truck, and they only made it 86 miles from full to 5% pulling a camper down normal highway.
I have an 8’ bed. Fill it with the same volume and go to the dump, then hook up a 37’ fifth wheel toyhauler and drive 250 miles. I can do that without refueling, but if I did, the refuel would take 10 minutes. Determine kW/mile used and cost to “refuel” at a charging station, along with the time to recharge. Oh, and use air conditioning. Also, considering that my trailer tires are only rated for 75 MPH, and the speed limit is less than that, I tow at 60 MPH and get 10 MPG.
@@sparksmcgee6641 It is customary of rational thinking people to listen to both sides of a story before making a decision based on the facts rather than feelings, opinion or ideology. Is it not? It is also reasonable to pose a scenario related to one’s own habits and needs for a comparison of capabilities, especially when questions of that nature were encouraged. Obviously, (lack of) range, bed volume and fifth wheel towing is an issue for me given the normal, habitual use of my pickup. It never hurts to view another’s data that will either confirm or dispute one’s own research.
@@mannypuerta5086 So you commented all the things you did here on videos of every truck in the class you were buying previously?????? No need to do any of the things listed. All of that was known before anyone did a cybertruck video.
It's not about speed it's the distance plus how many stops would be needed to get the same distance the diesel would go. Drive a 1,000-mile with the trailers on both trucks to see which one gets there first. cost of fuel, time etc.
How far can the diesel go on 3 or 4 gallons of fuel while towing? That's about all the ct has in total energy capacity as diesel is 37.9kwhs per gallon in total energy and the ct pack is just 123kwh useable. Limit the diesel to that amount of energy and the ct is gonna beat it easily! 😀👍🏻
the tech is obviously not there yet... were 10 years away from having good electric long range vehicles but we gotta start somewhere... this is called innovation and we should be celebrating an American company innovating not looking for ways to tear them down... be a real American lol
@@skylermummert24 why does it need to be good at it? it is ecological, fast, powerful, and comfortable, just like heavy-duty trucks are not comfortable ride this is not a good long-distance hauler, but what about it? that 2% of truck owners who actually do that are more than able to buy any other truck on the market. Oh, being mad gives your life a meaning? I suppose so
Have been watching a few CT videos lately what is abundantly clear is the range is nothing short of rubbish. If Tesla can get range anxiety sorted will go a long way to being accepted by more folks.
Great video. I like your comment at the end. I run a classic car restoration business called Farland Classic Restoration. We’ve been doing it for 32 years, but I am deeply into electric vehicles. We have done some conversions currently working on a 67 Ford mustang converted to electric. It’s our contribution to the otherwise gigantic carbon footprint that our cars create. I love the electric vehicles. They satisfy some of my need for instant speed. I love the way you’ve got the cyber truck wrapped. Very cool.
The price will surely come down over time. To be fair, it's not the same truck that was originally unveiled (ignoring massive inflation we've seen since 2019). I assume you're referring to the mid-priced model (AWD). The new truck gets more range (340 vs 300), faster 0-60, more towing capacity, steer by wire, 4 wheel steering, etc... That said, prices should come down a bit as production ramps (just like all Tesla models). It would be irresponsible of Tesla to not raise prices during a ramp up and launch of a new vehicle. Lots of capital expenditures need to be covered.
@@ruhdisthefirst8279 The more manufacturers add features to a vehicle, the less I want it. Rugged, reliable and uncomplicated are the qualities I prefer in a truck.
ummmm the GMC I bought in 2020 (which is the time of initial reservation price you're referencing) cost me $39,500. That truck today would cost $65,000. Get out of here with this nonsense 😂🤣
Not when you towing unfortunately. Tesla needs to add more pull through stalls. Then it will be practical. I do travel on my Tesla Y everywhere. And it’s the best vehicle ever. And it can tow a lot. However would not take my trailer or a boat on the long haul outside of my region.
Sure, nothing better than having to plan your road trip around Tesla charges. Wanna go see ???? Nope, can't no Tesla charger. Wanna avoid traffic????? Nope, can't no Tesla charger. Wanna make a quick stop to gas up???? Nope, can't need at least 30 minutes at the Tesla charger provide there is an open spot. No thanks, not something I want to experience.
the tea is obviously not there yet... were 10 years away from having good electric long range vehicles but we gotta start somewhere... this is called innovation and we should be celebrating an American company innovating not looking for ways to tear them down... be a real American lol
@adamvalencia1413 For starters, I support and own a Tesla. My suggestion had nothing to do with tearing down the company, I don't know how you get that from it, but... they asked for ways to test the truck and an endurance test, plus seeing availability of both parts in case of a breakdown and power supply is a legitimate way of testing. Also, what does tea have to do with anything?
@@adamvalencia1413 well fkn said! Made in TX by Americans in an American made factory! That also happens to be the world hq for the world's true ev sales leader an American company=TESLA! And tesla operates the 2 most efficient automotive plants in the world by sq footage for 3+consecutive years NOW! Safest evs in their segments, most efficient and highest performing per dollar. Batteries built in America, motors made in America. By parts content the tesla lineup are all in the top 10 most American made vehicle's! Hate on them but don't lie about who made them and what they are capable of. Also for every $1 spent charging an ev? Over .70c stays in our economy vs ice re fueling has over .60c of each dollar spent go to various countries, some of which would love to see the U.S. destroyed! So more evs means better domestic energy security as well as air quality! 😎👍🏻
Our country couldn't even begin to support a full on charging station loadout. Hell, Comifornia alone can't begin to have enough juice to run enough charging stations. These people pushing it are out of their damn minds and are just ignert.
Until off peak demand equals peak demand we can keep adding more BEVs. Power companies would love a steady demand. But then that is why they are spending 100s of millions on grid scale batteries.
@@michaeldahle9484 Earth to you, pulling a trailer the cybersuv only made it 86 miles . So it would have to charge 4 more times to do what a diesel can. Do you understand yet?
That’s interesting. I just pulled a 24’ trailer 144 miles to my destination in a Cybertruck. I guess not all towing is the same. If you are towing for long distances then any electric truck at this point is not the best option. However the CT is very capable of doing the towing of the majority of people. If you don’t like the CT don’t get it, but don’t kid yourself thinking it’s more expensive to operate than a diesel truck.
@@michaeldahle9484 I'm just stating the facts from the video, the Supercharger cost them more to charge than it did to refill the diesel. I understand its just one example, but it's a very interesting video. Since you own one you will probably find it interesting.
I know this has no thing to do with this truck.......but North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee could use your help . Your expertise with heavy equipment is gold . Please consider...Thank you.
The best upgrade for the truck is to add more battery capacity capable of doing a trip across a state on a single charge. That would make the cybertruck truly a menace on the roads.
More battery = more weight = less range. It's a matter of diminishing returns and why trucking will NEVER EVER EFFING EVER go electric. You eat up weight limit per vehicle just to go a tiny bit further, and the distance it can go ISN'T ENOUGH. It will never make sense or be feasible. And the biggest problem is that the rare earth metals, etc. will never be available EVER AND FOREVER at an amount to take over ANY vehicle category EXCEPT foofy boutique hotrods with questionable quality and severe safety issues.
@@user-ue4he3li8b Nope. You can add a fuckton more batteries before hitting diminishing returns. The Cybertruck has a relative small battery, could easily double without adding too much weight. The cost would be an issue though. And batteries are getting better fast. Cost is falling and energy density is increasing. And that's before major breakthroughs that are also coming. Dozens of new battery types are in development that promise several times more range, and only one have to succeed to wipe out ICE for good.
@@user-ue4he3li8b Everything you said is true to a very small subset of trucking: 500 mile + trips where the driver doesn't stop at the legally-required rest intervals. There is a much larger chunk of trucking that moves things less than 100mi/day and electric will save those companies an insane amount of fuel costs, aka one of their biggest expenses
the tech is obviously not there yet... were 10 years away from having good electric long range vehicles but we gotta start somewhere... this is called innovation and we should be celebrating an American company innovating not looking for ways to tear them down... be a real American lol
It's nice to see you supporting Alternative forms of transportation. And I appreciate you trying to convince other diesel fans to get on board. But I don't think it's going to sway some of that low-brow crowd who loves to roll coal on electric vehicles. And no, I don't own an electric vehicle. I drive a wrangler.
I would like to see you drive behind the diesel and see how much less the battery will drain if you keep you foot out of the accelerator. When I had my Roadrunner, I got 19 mpg when I drove rationally, but about 5 - 6 if I did full throttle all the time (not to mention tire wear, as when you spun the tires). Another issue is larger tires ruins the range, and smaller increases the range, so the 2nd test is to use the standard tire and follow the diesel and see what the range will be.
Wouldn’t work, ev’s don’t coast, you take your foot off the accelerator in an ev, it slows to charge…. Drafting would not work as you would fall behind when you take your foot off the pedal.
Towing races seems like a weird test. The end of the video sounds like most other EV owners argument "Once the infrastructure is there"...that could realistically take decades
Everyone seems to forget all these charging stations get their power from mostly fossil fuel power plants. There aren't enough power plants now to supply the power needed, and they aren't building any new ones lately. Where is all this power going to come from? Renewable energy is a joke. What happens when there's no wind blowing that day? What happens when it rains for three days? Solar panels are only 35 percent efficient! EV's are the biggest scam on the American public. People need to do their homework and find the answers themselves and not just take the word of some politicians!
"Once the infrastructure is there" is the counter to all the people long distance hauling motorhomes as "daily driving" They are bouth arguments used to cover the fact that the people using them have no idea what they are talking about
Nope the ridicule it's the overhype and uselessness of It! Why are they trying to proove comparing it to a diesel?! The Ford f350 used for tugh test in the tesla release can tow over 10,000lbs than the 800hp tesla and it has only 350hp diesel max
Yes it can go the hill accelerate very quickly but at which cost?! Diesel or ICE are like antelope they work 24/7 don't need 0-60 and they tow much more.
I'm starting to think electric trucks may steal the "crowd killer" reputation mustangs have.. Ultra fast 10k pound bowling balls rolling down the road with morons behind the wheel.
Can't beat physics, it would need a giant battery pack to get decent range while towing. I'd refer to the RAM REV 1500 for electric towing which happens to have a massive battery pack. Still, nice to know that you could pull something big in an emergency.
Technically the Hummer EV has an equally big battery pack, only the Hummer EV is so giant that it seems to waste enormous amounts of energy just lugging its own fat ass around.
@@allmybasketsinoneegg uh og h1 got about 7mpg average which is over 5kwhs per mile consumption as diesel is 37.9kwhs per gallon. The hummev gets 45-55mpge which is about 1.5 miles per kwh. So it's actually insanely efficient for a 9,000#+1,000+hp awd on 35s monster!
I'm an over the road truck driver and I hate rentals. Mainly because of all the sensors and notifications while driving in inclement weather. How is the Cyber truck in snow, cloudy day, night, and/or rain? More often than not, all those at the same time, lol. Penski rental trucks will sometimes slam on the breaks with a collision warning screaming at you on the display and nothing is actually there. Dose the Cyber truck does the same? oh, love the show!!!!
The new CATL solid state batteries are 1000+ miles range, charge in 30 minutes, 200 miles in 5 minutes, 1 mil. mile warranty or 15 years. The 600+ CATL is already in 2024 EVs, the 1000+ is coming is 2 model years.
Because it looks stupid. Everyone claims EV's will adequatly replace current fossil fuel vehicles, but based on this test is obviously false. Lithium is expensive and heavy, adding more of it has its diminising returns because you need to carry this battery. And also because Elon is a scammer no different than Theranos ->(insert technology) is what we can do this now but for you it is coming next year. FSD was coming in 2014 (or 2011 ? i dont remember) but now(2024) it is in beta so obviously a scam. I think EV technology has its merits on short routes (50km round trip), but new technology has to come out to really replace current vehicles.
@@renegranit240 hey, what would you say is the worst part in ev regarding the enviromental question ? i have to admit i believe they ARE more green than gas cars, but i am also curious to hear other opinions and arguments.
My word that vehicle is tremendously powerful. 80 mph uphill with a mega fat trailer and a big trail buggy on the back. That's simply outstanding and the range under those conditions will not come into the equation.
For the distance traveled and the electrons consumed, the value of the Cummins output totally blew the CT away. That truck will go up and down that mountain for relatively pennies vs. the CT, and do it all day before stopping for refuel. The the CT has good power - that's pretty much the end of it.
We need a self propelled trailer to go with the cyber truck. That should double the hauling distance. Not to mention acceleration would be even more insane.
You can fill up the your trailer full of batteries and ask yourself 3 questions: 1. Why i need this trailer if i don't have any empty space there? 2. How long i will charge this trailer and truck together? 3. How much my neighbor will pay for the electricity that I'm using to charge the my trailer and truck together?
Based on a 1000mi trip towing a travel trailer counting wind resistance also. The cyber truck would avg less than 100mi for a charge. 11 to 12 charges. Prolly would have to unhook truck from trailer to charge at stations each time. The internal combustion engine will beat the Cyber truck by a full day. I have seen a charge from 20% takes a full 1.5hrs to charge to full.
Thinking Tesla has or will have the ability for the truck to back up to the trailer ball. Hop out and finish the connection. Should not be a big deal. One can go further in a day towing with the CT by driving slower which results in fewer charging stops. For the guy with deep pockets they are making travel trailers that do not decrease range. They have their own battery and drive unit. Charge the Truck and trailer while eating lunch. Trailer drives to charger w/o the truck. There are so many people working on BEV tech that we can expect improvements over time. So give it some time if you don't like what you see today.
Do a real world comparison. Take both trucks fully loaded 3500 miles and see how long it takes for both to arrive at the end of the trip and what it cost for those miles, I for one would be very interested in the outcome.
Especially the cost. You're not spending $10 off your house electricity to charge up on a road trip. You're spending $30-40 a charge at a supercharger station. Every 100-ish miles? Hot damn...
I'd like to know the exact numbers for the kwh consumed on the hill climb itself. As well as the fuel consumption of the Cummins. The efficiency numbers are really interesting when you break them down. The CT has a 123kwh battery pack. Diesel fuel has an energy density of 37.95kwh per gallon. The CT has an equivalent energy of 3.24 gallons of diesel fuel on board. Based on your stated consumption of 1.2kwh per mile, that's equivalent to 30mpg diesel. Total distance be damned. That efficiency is still crazy good. Math is fun, kids!
Why are we comparing the fuel consumption with the CT going ~80 and the ICE ~60. Do you see the problem. With the current CT one might get more miles per hour driven by driving slower and charging less often. Less money too.
@@jpoole23602 Good question - How would resale data be found? Doesn't Tesla require a buyer sign a binding "you must own this vehicle for at least 1 year" contract?
Blinker fluid (battery) is one of my favorite forms of vehicle fuel. I think Edison Motors is on the right track with their hybrid trucks as they keep going when the blinker fluid is low. If the Tesla had an engine, I bet it could work all day with just a quarter of the fuel that the Ram would use.
There is plenty of room for both. The problem lies with the government trying to demand a switch. Given the option to choose is perfectly ok and there is zero problem with electric vehicles being on the road. They need to stop with the all electric push until they can make them have better range and quicker charges.
One of the actually valid jobs of our government is protecting citizens. Gasoline burning vehicles are harmful to public health, to say nothing about the environment. But I agree, there should not be a ban on new ICE vehicles. But incentives for EVs are fine.
16:57 Straight up just...... family camper. Tow behind, maybe toy hauler.... get to a camp site with a 30amp plug in it, how long do you have to camp to recharge, how far do you get, what's the impact between 55mph and 65mph average towing with a camper, etc. 🙏🏼🤗
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Would love to see you optimize the cybertruck battery usage somehow. Have you tire upgrades made it better in terms of battery consumption? How about self charging on the slopes? Would love to know more about that. It is so interesting!
Next gotta get a broke cyber truck. Do a cummins swap!❤ roll some coal on tesla cars. Then add some electric motors for the first diesel hybrid tesla and go millions of miles😂😂😂
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⚡⚡the EMF radiation you get exposed to while using an electric car are verry unhealthy. Probably worse that 5 G. I would never use an electric car.
It’s never been power…..its range
They tell you not to use 20% of the battery most of the time on each end. Thats 40%
*Diesel cybertruck.*
@@1nvisible1 never gonna happen unless someone swapped it out
Diesel is just incredibly energy dense bro the cybertruck pulls harder maintains higher speeds but for way short distances because its energy density in the battery is low and it takes forever to charge up. The diesel takes off slower but when youre going 70 all day long across the country you want the range to be up there and the refill times to be quick.
That’s why I like Edison motors
If you really think about it… you beat him by a minute and 30 seconds but if this was a 400 mile test he’d have you beat by hours because of all the down time charging 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's kind of like comparing a Sprinter to a Marathon runner. Electric will win the short range sprint, but for a marathon, diesel all the way.
That rest and party time while he is still looking at a windshield
Like a landline to a cell phone in 2001. Wait a few years
@@mikeflanary642 EV technology has been being worked on for over 100 years and has come quite a ways, but as far as efficiency, practicality, and durability as of right now, the internal combustion engine is still king.
Well it wasn't a 400 mile test, Einstein
So basically you told us what we already knew. Electric out pulls diesel, but cant go very far while doing it.
All we have to do is demand or wait for better batteries.
Once they arrive nothing else will stand a chance
It's really not gonna make it far after the frame snaps lmfao
@robertchristianson1187 they don't need better batteries. 100 extra miles wouldn't solve the issue.
They need a quick way to replace them like AA batteries. That's the only way I see it being the future
@@droidmotorola3884 The only way that solution makes sense would be at gas stations(or, battery stations) that kept a stock of charged batteries that could be interchanged for customer’s low batteries. But that only solves part of the issue. What if you need to go somewhere remote? Or what if you’re out late? Or what if bad weather prevents battery stations from opening/having electricity to charge batteries.
I suppose you could at all times keep an extra battery, but those things are massive and extremely heavy. Even the strongest of grown men would struggle mightily to change an EV battery on the side of the road, if it would be possible at all.
Unless you are towing batteries 🤣
We all get it that the electric is straight torque… but if you just pulled a trailer for 6 miles and wasted 30% battery… what good is it?
He literally said in the video that it works for towing short distances and not ideal for long distances.
@@culpritdesign Yeah but it still sucks. How useful is that going to be?
@@SM-McKraken I agree ☝️ I can’t imagine buying a truck and I couldn’t haul anything long distance. Even my suv can haul mid size loads across the country. I guess it depends on what each person intends to use it for. If you only haul things locally then it seems ok, but pulling an RV or anything long distance is just impractical.
At 97 mpg equivalent, the cybertruck holds 4 gallons of gas worth of power. EVs get away with it because they are super efficient in turning that into movement and recover energy going downhill. But there is no efficiency you can gain from an electric motor hauling 10,000 lbs uphill at 80mph. If it takes a diesel truck 2 gallons of fuel it will take an electric truck at least 1.5 gallon equivalent of energy (you still get a 50% boost from not running a full ICE drivetrain and heat losses) And there goes half your charge.
Long haul towing won't be a thing electric trucks can do until we get batteries equivalent to at least 10 gal of diesel fuel (1300 kw/h) the cybertruck claimed it's towing model would ship with a 500 kw/h battery, the beast version only has 125 kw/h. Battery tech just isn't ready.
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I love how logical Heavy D always is about stuff. Like how he doesn’t try to act like EVs are perfect and it can replace all of his other vehicles but rather that there is a time and a place to enjoy both.
well he did invest 100ks if not mill into electric trucks they are ironing out legal shyt tho
Couldnt agree more.
Except he NEVER shows you the facts just reads them off when the camera is on him.
he got paid by tesla... then sold some crap energy drink... salesman first, entertainer second... fact finder last.
Yes....so true, cannot understand why some are all or nothing. I still love to ride horses......
The face Dave made after taking a drink of that AG1 said the exact opposite of “it’s so good” 😂
They must pay very very well lol
Every RUclipsr who promotes that crap doesn’t finish it and struggles to take one sip!
Ya buddy of mine says it’s disgusting and it’s always grimy no matter how much you shake it
I bough it , unfortunately . . No matter how healthy it is -- drinking stagnant pond water isn't worth it . Absolutely horrendous grimy , slimy and revolting taste / smell . Smells more like old pond water mixed with chinese industrial waste chemicals .
He was thinking of the drink but talking about the money
He looked like he was gonna gag 😂
Do the same test in the wintertime.
EXACTLY !!!!
Or peak summer. EVs struggle with both ends of extreme weather.
The heat pump would scavenge from the pack to heat the cab. Learn how Modern EV's work.
@@jpmkiv Learn the challenges of modern EVs. You are talking about the cab, the motor struggles in the cold. Chicago recently had a lot of Teslas die in subzero temps.
@@jpmkivthey don't work. For towing or extreme weather range is useless
I did a 3,000 mile cross country trip twice with a 2002 stock gas powered Chevy Tahoe with a total payload of 14,000 pounds. This was accomplished with a stock hitch rated at 7,900 lbs. I did it by myself in 3 days. I did have to stop about every 180 miles to gas up.
I challenge you to a competition.! I will use my stock Chevy Tahoe and you can use your cyber truck! We leave at the same time, follow the same route, and let's see who gets there quicker.
Or I can do it with my 2011 dually Ram 3500!
If you watched the video you would know he said he would not use the CyberTruck for Towing out of town. For the guys that tow within the range of the truck it is actually a very good tow vehicle. For longer your going to burn a lot of time and there are not enough pull through chargers yet. Over time the battery density and charging time will improve but why not use a diesel and save some time.
I did watch the video. It was a good video. I was just pointing out that I could do better with an old Tahoe then a $100,000 cyber truck.
I appreciate your response.@@danharold3087
Time is money, and with that benchmark, diesel is going to win. Tesla and other EV makers need to improve battery technology by a factor of 4x to even match diesel engines in the transportation business. How long this will take is anyone's guess. It's going to take novel engineering and ingenuity to double energy capacity in batteries. That's merely 2X. I'm betting on QS, but not the whole ranch.
@@alohamark3025 Regardless there is no way that they can make an ICE engine ZEV. It has a shelf life.
All lies
Don't know why everyone thinks they have to do 80 towing a trailer. That's where you lose efficiency let alone it's not safe. So if this ain't practical then it's not a fair review.
It’s the only thing a Cybertruck could beat the Ram at. It loses at everything else. As far as towing.
😂 ask any truck driver ever if going 80 on the interstate is important 😅😂
@@Pokebattleleaguethey haul weight not tow it and that comment sounds dumb
@@Pokebattleleaguewhy is it? some trailer tires aren’t even rated for that
Speed limit is 65 mph on 80 up Parley's ta boot.
Do a test where you tow the cybertruck using a tow strap (all four wheels on the pavement) using the 5500 at highway speeds and see how long it takes to get a full charge using only regen braking, and how much diesel the 5500 uses doing it.
That would be awesome and show how fast the breaks wear out 17:54
@@christopherjohnson520regen braking doesn't use brakes, it just spins the drive motors the other way to generate power
This is a bad idea. You shouldn't tow evs
@@trentlutek2673 Why would it need to spin the other way?
@@jamescreekmore3855 Depends, the supposed "dangers" of towing an EV is simply over charging it if you tow them long enough on a full battery. But that only really applies to very old EV's (or very very cheap ones) as most modern EV's just open the circuit when the battery is full or near full.
Which basically means the motors turn freely without resistance and without generating power. It's also the reason why you lose regenerative braking when on full battery.
So no, it's not a bad idea, not with a Tesla. At least not more so than flat towing in general, though with EV's you also don't have to worry about damaging the drivetrain on AWD variants, like the case with most ICE cars.
I wish these were a diesel driven hybrid like a train. Would solve the range anxiety
Check out Edison motors. They've got heavy truck hybrids figured out and are developing a replacement setup for pickups.
Check out Edison motors. They've got the heavy truck hybrid figured out and are developing a replacement system for pickups.
@@matthawkins3666 cringe double comment
That would make too much sense for Tesla
@@matthawkins3666my dad use to work for Edison
12:38 "we're still spooling up" 😂
TFL tested the Cyber truck towing a 8000LB camper to test the range it went 82 miles before it needed to charge
And it cost less to refill the Diesel than Supercharge the Cybertruck and It took 5 min vs an 1.75hrs...
Great, sounds like you should get a different truck for towing, shocker that towing 4 tons on a battery drains it.
EV’s have their place, commuting daily to work. Thats about it.
Ev's are overweight junk . Good for ebikes and under 50 miles a day driving
@@theninja001 Right but tesla wanted you to buy this like a truck that can be useful.
I would like to see it loaded with about 2000 lbs of tools, wire, parts or whatever. Then drive it around town and the suburbs all day to see what kind of range it would get. I definately love the teck and the performance of this thing and I have one on "pre order" but I want to know what it can do in the real world for a service based electrical contractor.
Why on earth would you ever want one of these as an electrical contractor? Even a regular pickup isn't the best vehicle for your business and a Cybertruck is far more impractical/unreliable than a regular pickup. You could have a fully kitted out sprinter/transit for less money and it would be 100x more practical.
@markadler8968
My service truck is a Ram 2500 cummins with a Miranda box on it with my tools and and materials in it. It's by far the best option for me as the box with its kit can be easily swapped out on to another truck. The fuel economy isn't horrible for somting its size and weight. The 4x4 in winter is a nessassary as I don't have time to shovel out parking spots down town.
I have a Sprinter as well. I'm dissipointed with it. It's really expensive for what is, basically a high roof regular 2 wheel drive delevery van. Out of the fleet the sprinters have the worst maintenance record. They are really bad in the winter as far as getting in and out of snow banks.
I also have an E-Transt. It's head and shoulders over the sprinter as far as toughness and technology go. The bolt in points on the Transit are far more solid than the sprinter. The sprinters racking actually pulled the factory nuts right out of the ribs. The transit also requires virtually no maintenance. It's only MAJOR downfall is the range. In good weather you get 250kms in cold winter conditions that gets cut in half.
My Ram is a Long Horne so... it costs what it costs, my truck, my toy I don't care 🤣 .
A new Sprinter base model is around 70k about what I paid for the E-Transit. If I got a base model Ram it would be around what the sprinter is but 4 times the truck. The Miranda box is a one time cost so I don't count it in equation.
In my experience the Sprinters were ok back in the day when they were 500$ a month as that offset the ridiculous MB maintenance costs.
BTW, get rid of all of them before the warranty is up. Especially the Sprinter, they can generate horrific repair bills.
@@greggardner3154 That still doesn't change the fact that the C truck is hugely impractical for work use. How exactly are you planning on putting a Miranda box on a truck with a bed like the C truck?
@markadler8968
Not planning to put a Miranda box on the Cyber Truck. As my business has evolved I probably don't need the cargo space of the Ram that much. I spend more time runnig to jobs to help out my guys, doing estimates, PR with clients etc...
I could comfortably get by with fewer items than I halul around now.
The CT would probably almost pay for itself in fuel savings and no maintenance. I really appreciate the E Transit for that aspect.
If I can get 350 to 450 kms a day out of the CT it would be an excellent option for me. I would still keep the Ram for long trips and trailer hauling.
Both the Etransit and the Sprinter are not good for towing. Never even tried it with the ETransit as we all know how horrific that would be. The Sprinter is barley adequate to carry the stuff in it. Towing a trailer boom with it was no fun at all.
I think it all comes down to what you need it for. If the Etransit hand a 400km range in cold weather, the Sprinter would have been gone long ago.
@@greggardner3154 I've seen some of those fast charging bills, cheaper to buy an inexpensive gasser to run around in.
It always cracks me up when people think it matters how fast you go up a hill. One and a half minute difference, then you meet at a stop light and pass them
What highway has a stop light?
I don't think that they think it matters, I think its more about how it feels because they have experience towing a lot of weight, so when they get in the cyber truck it has a different experience ( I haven't experienced it my self but I have heard people say that it is almost like you cant even feel the load you are towing with the cyber truck or other EV vehicle ) but give the EV technology time, I do think that it will get better, kind of like cell phones ( just my .5 cents )
Thats a long time to wait. Battery tech has been around pretty much as long as internal combustion vehicles have. Look where I.C.E. is and look where battery tech is. First battery was made by Alessandro Volta in 1800 while the first ICE was made in 1807 by François Isaac de Rivaz
One and a half minutes means that the Cyber Truck will make the green light, and the slow truck will not, and will have to wait for the red light.
@@FLPhotoCatcher doesnt matter because when you are charging your truck in 80 miles, you will have to make up 1 and a half hours to just get caught back up to the diesel truck. By then youll have to stop to charge it again. The diesel truck will only have burnt a 1/4 tank of fuel at that point. You can have your 1 and a half minutes, ill take my 1 and a half hours i make up when you are charging the effin thing.
WhistlingDiesel showed a tow/bumper issue…I don’t know how much it actually takes to break it off but he did break it…
@@LMH710
It wouldn't have happened to a regular truck under the exact same circumstances...
So yeah it's the problem with the cybertruck specifically.
@@LMH710 It happened because the Cyber-Trucks chassis is cast aluminum. It's brittle and not up to the task at hand. It doesn't take a genius to understand the flaw in the design. It's a terrible bit of engineering from a company that boasts about their engineering prowess.
And in his latest videos, he explained it already happened to several people.
@@Mekkicehyeah somebody lost their travel trailer almost causing a major accident. Also I want to note that when he broke the cyber truck he wasn't even trying to break it which says something to me. Now I know he's got the Goliath touch and anything he sets finger on turns to dust but he genuinely was not in any way rough on that truck I thought compared to some of the abuse his previous victim vehicles have seen. You remember the forest ranger truck that old Chevy held 800,000 lb of tree and still drove lol
@@LMH710someone else had that happen on the highway
80 mph towing a vehicle is crazy, could end up in disaster.
It was irresponsible, he should have done a more normal test, eh kids.
You see the drone shot how he was driving down the middle of the road in his neighborhood and the approaching car had to kiss the curb for his safety. That told me a lot about this guy... all to make a video and some more bucks, to heck with anyone else on the road.
Can the cyber truck tow ? Yes all the way to the end of the driveway and back 😂🤷🏻
the tech just isn't there obviously but we gotta start somewhere.. no need to hate
Hate ? Like all the poor people that purchased these and had instant problems ? Want me to post all the links ? And to pretend the range anxiety isn’t atrocious is just dishonest. The claimed range is crap and it’s final performance isn’t what it claims to be. Those are issues, not hate.
@@adamvalencia1413 I love how people like you call pointing out the obvious flaws in something "Hate". Grow up.
@@markadler8968 you can hate all you want but just making sure you're hating on all electric cars evenly. no use being a Tesla hater like anything doesn't have garbage range... its just where were at...all im sayin
I think Edison motors has created the perfect hybrid for tractor trucks. Hes working with another company i think making a smaller heavy duty truck hybrid.
Love the point of view at the end. I think people need to embrace all things to allow technology to advance and with time we will have more capable EVs. I drive a Jeep truck daily and haul a small camper for trips. When I get a new truck In the next couple years I think the cyber truck is pretty awesome but wonder would it work for my real life situation? I have a suggestion: Both trucks towing something like a 3-5000k lb camper (same weight for both trucks) and average camping gear in the bed for payload. Have both trucks doing the same 500-1000 mile road trip emulating real world travel/camping with both making the same planned overnight stops. Driving the actual speed limit (not racing to the destinations). Just driving like you would on a regular trip while towing. Then break down all the math. The fuel truck: how many stops to fill up with total mileage/ fuel cost and time spent filling up. Ease to fill up. The Cyber truck: how many stops for charging, time spent, cost to charge and ease to find charging station… for a real life typical road trip (I wonder would charging in between destinations be easy or cause a lot of anxiety?) That way we can see fuel vs electric for a realistic travel towing situation. I am curious how they will compare in a typical truck use situation with some longer range travel and not just being loaded to the max and going fast. I also would love to see the features of both trucks while camping. Maybe there will be many pros and cons to both trucks! 🧐
Thatd be a solid video for sure.
People criticizing EVs so much even though they are brand new technology compared to ICE which has had over 100 years to mature. It's silly and more ideological than it is honest and it really doesn't matter if states mandate EV's over the coming years because you simply won't have ICE vehicles available for sale anymore and gas stations will disappear... then you'll be able to joke about range of ICE when there's nowhere to get fuel because all the gas stations were turned into charging stations.
There will never be a pro to electric
@@cjsiglerii That comment can't be taken seriously. Blatantly false. EVs have far superior acceleration, no emissions and they are incredibly quiet to drive - all objective "pro" to electric but don't let that interrupt your fantasies.
@mnn1265 fantasies?? Weird. You still haven't told me anything "pro" about it. Quiet?? I like the sound of a good engine. Emissions?? What's that 🤣, some California s**t?? Acceler
Acceleration? Where the hell am I rushing to that my LS engine can't get me to just as fast?? Sound like more cons to me.
The real test would be wich one hauls faster from coast to coast.
why is that a real test? nobody does that in real life with trucks the size of F150s
No, that wouldn't be _anything_ like a "real test."
I mean to be fair the best pulling machines we've ever created, diesel-electric trains, that run all over the country are electric that run on electricity generated by a diesel engine.
No rest time?
I switched my 59 vw to electric it’s 4 times the torque and 3 times the HP. I just love conversion, dead quiet, it will go a 120 miles on around 3 dollars of electric, and it has a hell of a hole shot.
Could you imagine spending half your gas to arrive a minute early?
Less than a minute! 😂😂😂
Nothing will convince me that spending 120k on this "truck" is worth it. No amount of flashy wraps or mods.
Then don't
To people with company's and business's it's a right off its worth it to them.... plus it'll get him views on his RUclips it's a smart move... it's not a everyday Joe kinda rig
Its the 100 mile range that does it for me. Cuz i don't want to be stopping within every 100 miles for long period of times to recharge.
@@jeremyedwards7357 For businesses, you save a ton on fuel and maintenance. So you get more out of it the more you use it. For regular drivers it's either about power, or acceleration, or just a gimmick.
Not to mention the child slavery in Congo mining the rare earth minerals for the batteries made in China with slavery. Shame on anyone buying EV
I like the embrace new tech speech, this was a great vid to show you what it can and can not do. We have a Model Y and my wife uses it to drive around town to offset the milage on her Expedition. We have seen a huge savings in mileage and a significant decrease in fuel purchases, and bonus is we have free electricity at night and only charge during those hours.
The best thing about that truck is its towing hitch. So you can tow a diesel generator to extend the range. I wonder if you can charge it while driving?
naw, as soon as anything plugs in it shuts down the power... maybe theres a way to override that with some engineering but as it stands, no
Then every time you saw a black plume coming down the highway you could say here comes a cybertruck.🤣🤣 They're so cool all electric you know.
@@jessesteeltown There is, people have made battery trailers out of old EV packs and hooked them up to their EV's to extend the range. You bypass the charge port so it doesn't think it's being charged.
Edison makes a diesel electric conversion kit for trucks. Converting your old square body into something with far greater range and way higher torque than most anything else on the market.
just like a Edison tractor
Heavy D said go and took off while Dave was petting the dog and then took his time while taking off.😂
Thats what I seen too.
Slowest take off ever
The Ram was that slow he could have made a coffee while patting the dog.
It's called editing. Checkout the clip @ 14.10 its about 1 second between them.
Why race them though, just run them normally, at legal speeds and give a better test for the range like this. See he did it the way a kid thinks, not yet a man.
It looks like the unwanted love child between a DeLorean and a children's camouflage tent .
Get that right it's Aztec and DeLorean Pontiac Aztek
New to the channel boaterhome brought me here but I stayed for the cybertruck truck. Love that you a true truck guy through ans through and you can use the cybertruck and enjoy it's greatest qualities. You have a far an honest opinion. I can't wait to binge your videos
So in 30 miles you use more electricity than you do in your house in a 24 hour period. That’s outrageous
And it’s still cheaper than paying for gas
@@bigb-mt6fn for the consumer I guess… you still have to charge it somewhere so the grid still uses that power
Yeah, and you wasted 80% of a gas heating your engine every time you drive, ICE efficiency is anywhere between 10-20% so 80 cents of a dollar burning for nothing, but that doesn't bother you.
@@oleksandrmokrohuz5182doesn't bother me 1 bit. Most people pay for not having the inconvenience of sitting around for 45 min to charge vs driving and only gassing up once every couple of weeks. Or the lack of mileage you get in the winter with EV's. Just my opinion but no way I'd go EV the way things are today. Too much of an inconvenience.
@@oleksandrmokrohuz5182 It's more like 30% and diesel can get up to 45%. The efficiency of an EV isn't 100% either, plus there is a lot of power loss in the generation and transportation of the electricity before it gets to the vehicle.
1 hour charge. Couldn't imagine the crying from the kids while doing a trip 😂
My kids go insane when we stop. I could never do Electric. I love Elon Musk and his goals. But Electric blows ass.
hell I'd be crying to waiting for it to charge and be as bored as the kids LOL
@@robbyprice8247 If you're not hauling a trailer it rocks, and it rocks even if you're hauling a trailer. Battery tech needs to improve, more battery density per pound. It'll happen. Battery tech for EVs is still in its infancy, really.
Kids. How many more minutes? How many more minutes...
@@robbyprice8247 How many more minutes dad?
As long as when you get to a charge port and a crack head hasn’t cut the cord for copper
crack is illegal.. SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE? assk hunter
And then disconnect the trailer so you can get it to the charger and reconnect it to start again.
Bro get off main stream media and that was 1 charger. 10 cords get you 200 bucks wow Im rich now humanity has always been destroying Itself
@@blessguy5330 "Mainstream media" are pushers of Muskrats scams too.
@@blessguy5330 When crack costs a few bucks a rock, 200 goes a long fuckin way.
The Cybertruck is sort of like a cheetah. It's uses a lot of energy for speed, but loses out on stamina. Stamina is one of the main reasons cheetahs lose their kill to other predators. Other predators simply wait for the cheetah to catch its prey. They swoop in for the steal after the cheetah kills the prey. The cheetah, having low stamina, is always too exhausted to defend its food and retreats. In the Cybertruck's case, it loses the race if it's a long distance journey. The stamina of this supposed utility car can't currently compete with ICE trucks. Mix that in with the need to stop more often and refuel, and it gets left in the dust of a gas guzzling pickup.
Wow! You just missed the whole point of this test, didn’t you? Please, broaden your horizon. Comphrende! Cheers 🥂
@@theodorehaskins3756 I'm not surprised someone like you can't see your fallacy. Did you even listen his comments about how this car wouldn't be good for long distance vs an ICE truck?
@@theodorehaskins3756the thing lost 40% of it's power in 6 miles. Don't try to church it up son.
@@Wolf-vc4wj Running 80 MPH on a significant grade. Not saying anyone should use the CT for towing if they don't have the time to charge it. But I would like so see how much fuel the RAM burned and then compare the energy cost. I realize time is money for most people.
I’ve been driving the Tesla semi for work. Pretty amazing how well it pulls 80k pounds. Can’t even feel the weight behind you
I’m honestly curious about the curb weight of those. Do you have the same payload, or is it reduced to accommodate the weight of batteries. The reason I ask is that I saw that there’s a company building add on electric for existing trucks that adds 20k lb to the combination. Surely the Tesla isn’t THAT much heavier, but I’m curious.
Does it have steer by wire?
@@Aku6Soku1Zanyes it is steer by wire.
@@gregggriffith4795curb weight on the Cyberbeast is around 6,900lbs. Around the same as a Ford F-150.
So...what's the real range for the Tesla semi with a load?
1) Howe many sheets of plywood can you load into the bed of the cyber "truck" compared to the Ram? 2) If you completely max out the battery of the cyber "truck", how do you get a container of electricity back to the vehicle so you can get home? 3) How long before the battery of a cyber "truck" gives out and needs to be replaced, and at what cost? The Ram will keep trucking past 300,000 miles or more, depending on how well it is maintained.
Lithium batteries can be cycled thousands of times. Tesla is warranting the battery in their electric semi's for a million miles.
1 million mile club they probably have trucks with higher miles
@@TheGreenGrower618 They might be in recyclable in theory but there is hardly anyone out there doing it. Tesla's semi warranty is meaningless because they have only produced a measly 100 trucks so far.
Thats what they said about plastic and now 97% ends up in landfills and oceans. if it's cheaper to make new than to recycle as with plastic you'll just have tons of chemicals sitting around until we send it overseas are just dump it in the oceans ourselves. doesn't sound very green to me. @@TheGreenGrower618
@@markadler8968 cycled as in drained and recharged. I wasn't talking about recycling.
Time for yet another HeavyDSparks commercial .
Such a confidence man .
So shocking a RUclips channel would try to make money...oh wait, that is the whole point of RUclips
Your final few comments deserve a commendation . . I was really impressed . . I've worked on everything from dozers to F/A-18s and the comments I usually see leave me with little hope . .
Need to get ahold of Dave... Some friends of CLEETUS is stuck in Utah.. Had bad accident on a SXS had to have emergency surgery on his spine... He needs to get home but can only do it laying down... Race Rebuild Repeat is their channel.. Just throwing it out there if yall can do anything to help
Sending love and prayers 👊❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
When trying to go viral fails! SMH.
Was that the guy that was stealing from SxSblog?
p-diddy couch makes you own a helicopter?
The guys that ripped off sxsblog?
It's about range and recharge times...that's the issue everybody is having with the electric trucks and cars for that matter. It's probably fine around town for short hops if you can get back home in time by the evening to recharge it.
The people who don't care about range because they can charge at home....those are the millions of people EV's are perfect for. Even when counting road trips, the average american drives 39 miles per day, or 14,000 miles per year. 270ish miles of range for $6 is hard to beat. Also waking up to a pre-cooled or prewarmed and charged car every day is pretty sweet as well. For towing or long distances over 400 miles a day, don't pick an EV.
Yep. For normal average daily driving use, if you have electricity at your home and can plug into a 220-240 volt outlet, the overall ownership experience is much better: always full, very convenient, no wasted time on any of the constant ICE car maintenance.
@chadcoady9025 Okay, put a trailer behind the Cyber-Truck, and its range 80 miles, as a truck it's useless. Average Americans that need a truck need to tow things. It's a truck, not a VW Bug. Average isn't the discussion
Wow! $120k for a truck that I can only use as a truck for less than 100 miles? 😂😂
480 miles a charge
@fuzzo8483 Not when you're pulling a trailer and actually USING the truck as a truck. It's only that just driving it normally. He literally said he drove 65 miles and went from full to 25% left with his trailer attached. There's also other RUclips videos of people offroading it, and it gets shown out by a 30 year old truck, and they only made it 86 miles from full to 5% pulling a camper down normal highway.
Their range not towing anything is around 340 miles. When the 2 wheel drive comes out it might get 500 miles maybe.
Take your Gladiator and the Cybertruck to Moab Utah and test climbing abilities!
I have an 8’ bed. Fill it with the same volume and go to the dump, then hook up a 37’ fifth wheel toyhauler and drive 250 miles. I can do that without refueling, but if I did, the refuel would take 10 minutes. Determine kW/mile used and cost to “refuel” at a charging station, along with the time to recharge. Oh, and use air conditioning.
Also, considering that my trailer tires are only rated for 75 MPH, and the speed limit is less than that, I tow at 60 MPH and get 10 MPG.
Obviously not thw truck for you. Why are watching this?
@@sparksmcgee6641 It is customary of rational thinking people to listen to both sides of a story before making a decision based on the facts rather than feelings, opinion or ideology. Is it not?
It is also reasonable to pose a scenario related to one’s own habits and needs for a comparison of capabilities, especially when questions of that nature were encouraged.
Obviously, (lack of) range, bed volume and fifth wheel towing is an issue for me given the normal, habitual use of my pickup. It never hurts to view another’s data that will either confirm or dispute one’s own research.
@@mannypuerta5086 So you commented all the things you did here on videos of every truck in the class you were buying previously??????
No need to do any of the things listed. All of that was known before anyone did a cybertruck video.
This is the one, HeavyD and everyone. The EV scam needs to end NOW.
He did everything but a tug of war😂.
He did a tug of war with Matt’s. Bombi from Matt’s offroad recovery at the wrecker games.
Tug of war with a truck that weighs around 50% more and is a dually?
It's not about speed it's the distance plus how many stops would be needed to get the same distance the diesel would go. Drive a 1,000-mile with the trailers on both trucks to see which one gets there first. cost of fuel, time etc.
The diesel will be there in 2 stops of fuel
How far can the diesel go on 3 or 4 gallons of fuel while towing? That's about all the ct has in total energy capacity as diesel is 37.9kwhs per gallon in total energy and the ct pack is just 123kwh useable. Limit the diesel to that amount of energy and the ct is gonna beat it easily! 😀👍🏻
Hello Mcfly @@4literv6
"It's not about speed it's the distance" said the disappointed lady to her lover. The cybertruck is like a guy with premature ejaculation.
EV'S are great for driving from Charging Station to Charging Station.
The bigger tires really make it look alot better!
Cool now do a cross country tow race
Cross country? Cybertruck wouldn't even make it past state lines.
@@wrongthinker350that’s the point 😂😂 junk
the tech is obviously not there yet... were 10 years away from having good electric long range vehicles but we gotta start somewhere... this is called innovation and we should be celebrating an American company innovating not looking for ways to tear them down... be a real American lol
@@skylermummert24 why does it need to be good at it? it is ecological, fast, powerful, and comfortable, just like heavy-duty trucks are not comfortable ride this is not a good long-distance hauler, but what about it? that 2% of truck owners who actually do that are more than able to buy any other truck on the market. Oh, being mad gives your life a meaning? I suppose so
@@davidprochazka8304 oh so it’s good for 5 percent of work? No thanks
Have been watching a few CT videos lately what is abundantly clear is the range is nothing short of rubbish. If Tesla can get range anxiety sorted will go a long way to being accepted by more folks.
Range anxiety is promoted by the oil companies.
Great video. I like your comment at the end. I run a classic car restoration business called Farland Classic Restoration. We’ve been doing it for 32 years, but I am deeply into electric vehicles. We have done some conversions currently working on a 67 Ford mustang converted to electric. It’s our contribution to the otherwise gigantic carbon footprint that our cars create. I love the electric vehicles. They satisfy some of my need for instant speed. I love the way you’ve got the cyber truck wrapped. Very cool.
Love the Cybertruck! Just wish it had a 200kWh+ battery.
or a diesel generator and a much smaller battery
The 60% increase over the initial reservation price was the deal breaker for me.
Was 20% ish just keeping up with inflation
@@chrisshippy5627 Was 50k is now 80k, that is 60% increase. Far more than inflation.
The price will surely come down over time. To be fair, it's not the same truck that was originally unveiled (ignoring massive inflation we've seen since 2019). I assume you're referring to the mid-priced model (AWD). The new truck gets more range (340 vs 300), faster 0-60, more towing capacity, steer by wire, 4 wheel steering, etc... That said, prices should come down a bit as production ramps (just like all Tesla models). It would be irresponsible of Tesla to not raise prices during a ramp up and launch of a new vehicle. Lots of capital expenditures need to be covered.
@@ruhdisthefirst8279 The more manufacturers add features to a vehicle, the less I want it. Rugged, reliable and uncomplicated are the qualities I prefer in a truck.
ummmm the GMC I bought in 2020 (which is the time of initial reservation price you're referencing) cost me $39,500. That truck today would cost $65,000. Get out of here with this nonsense 😂🤣
Take it in a road trip. The supercharger network is built out and you need to experience it.
built out in major cities maybe, you wouldn't make it across the midwest lol
@@angel-_-6100 Gotta find a new joke. You're about 5 years late on that one lol.
@@angel-_-6100false.
Not when you towing unfortunately. Tesla needs to add more pull through stalls. Then it will be practical. I do travel on my Tesla Y everywhere. And it’s the best vehicle ever. And it can tow a lot. However would not take my trailer or a boat on the long haul outside of my region.
Sure, nothing better than having to plan your road trip around Tesla charges.
Wanna go see ???? Nope, can't no Tesla charger.
Wanna avoid traffic????? Nope, can't no Tesla charger.
Wanna make a quick stop to gas up???? Nope, can't need at least 30 minutes at the Tesla charger provide there is an open spot.
No thanks, not something I want to experience.
Great show of what Cyber Truck can do.
Happy days!
Have a great 4th!!
You guys deserve it
I think a cool test would be hauling long distance, as in crossing multiple state lines to see which does it better over the course of a few days
Definitely not a hotshot truck
the tea is obviously not there yet... were 10 years away from having good electric long range vehicles but we gotta start somewhere... this is called innovation and we should be celebrating an American company innovating not looking for ways to tear them down... be a real American lol
@adamvalencia1413 For starters, I support and own a Tesla. My suggestion had nothing to do with tearing down the company, I don't know how you get that from it, but... they asked for ways to test the truck and an endurance test, plus seeing availability of both parts in case of a breakdown and power supply is a legitimate way of testing. Also, what does tea have to do with anything?
@@adamvalencia1413 well fkn said! Made in TX by Americans in an American made factory! That also happens to be the world hq for the world's true ev sales leader an American company=TESLA! And tesla operates the 2 most efficient automotive plants in the world by sq footage for 3+consecutive years NOW!
Safest evs in their segments, most efficient and highest performing per dollar. Batteries built in America, motors made in America.
By parts content the tesla lineup are all in the top 10 most American made vehicle's!
Hate on them but don't lie about who made them and what they are capable of. Also for every $1 spent charging an ev? Over .70c stays in our economy vs ice re fueling has over .60c of each dollar spent go to various countries, some of which would love to see the U.S. destroyed!
So more evs means better domestic energy security as well as air quality! 😎👍🏻
@@kinggamerismHe’s a 🤖. Writing this on every bad review.
Our country couldn't even begin to support a full on charging station loadout. Hell, Comifornia alone can't begin to have enough juice to run enough charging stations. These people pushing it are out of their damn minds and are just ignert.
Elon doesn't miscalculate.
Until off peak demand equals peak demand we can keep adding more BEVs. Power companies would love a steady demand. But then that is why they are spending 100s of millions on grid scale batteries.
Now do the cost of running a supercharge vs cost of diesel to fill the 5500, over that hill trip.
The Fast Lane did a much better challenge, check it out, way better details, it actually cost more to charge the Cyber than refill the diesel.
He charged it at home. Even though they didn’t go far it would cost more to fill the diesel than to charge the Cybertruck from 0-100%.
@@michaeldahle9484 Earth to you, pulling a trailer the cybersuv only made it 86 miles . So it would have to charge 4 more times to do what a diesel can. Do you understand yet?
That’s interesting. I just pulled a 24’ trailer 144 miles to my destination in a Cybertruck. I guess not all towing is the same.
If you are towing for long distances then any electric truck at this point is not the best option. However the CT is very capable of doing the towing of the majority of people. If you don’t like the CT don’t get it, but don’t kid yourself thinking it’s more expensive to operate than a diesel truck.
@@michaeldahle9484 I'm just stating the facts from the video, the Supercharger cost them more to charge than it did to refill the diesel. I understand its just one example, but it's a very interesting video. Since you own one you will probably find it interesting.
I know this has no thing to do with this truck.......but North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee could use your help . Your expertise with heavy equipment is gold . Please consider...Thank you.
*You're losing at least 15% range with those bigger wheels and tires.*
Yeah but he thinks he is 200% cooler looking when going down the road so in his mind it makes up for it.
he must be accounting for that because 80-40 does not equal 30 or 25
Junk
Yeah. This regard ruins the car with ridiculous tyres and then proceeds to "test" the truck.
@@RandomGuyOnRUclips601 tires don't matter that much with diesel 😂😂
The best upgrade for the truck is to add more battery capacity capable of doing a trip across a state on a single charge. That would make the cybertruck truly a menace on the roads.
Just add a gas motor...all problems solved
More battery = more weight = less range. It's a matter of diminishing returns and why trucking will NEVER EVER EFFING EVER go electric. You eat up weight limit per vehicle just to go a tiny bit further, and the distance it can go ISN'T ENOUGH. It will never make sense or be feasible. And the biggest problem is that the rare earth metals, etc. will never be available EVER AND FOREVER at an amount to take over ANY vehicle category EXCEPT foofy boutique hotrods with questionable quality and severe safety issues.
@@user-ue4he3li8b
Nope. You can add a fuckton more batteries before hitting diminishing returns. The Cybertruck has a relative small battery, could easily double without adding too much weight. The cost would be an issue though.
And batteries are getting better fast. Cost is falling and energy density is increasing. And that's before major breakthroughs that are also coming. Dozens of new battery types are in development that promise several times more range, and only one have to succeed to wipe out ICE for good.
@@user-ue4he3li8b Everything you said is true to a very small subset of trucking: 500 mile + trips where the driver doesn't stop at the legally-required rest intervals.
There is a much larger chunk of trucking that moves things less than 100mi/day and electric will save those companies an insane amount of fuel costs, aka one of their biggest expenses
That thing belongs on the moon😂😂
the tech is obviously not there yet... were 10 years away from having good electric long range vehicles but we gotta start somewhere... this is called innovation and we should be celebrating an American company innovating not looking for ways to tear them down... be a real American lol
ELON LOAD IT ON STARSHIP FOR MOON PLEASE 👍👍🇺🇸
@@adamvalencia1413It’s an American Company but isn’t built in America.
@@alanhinkel420 It's built in the gigafactory in houston.
@@alanhinkel420 Giga Texas?
It's nice to see you supporting Alternative forms of transportation. And I appreciate you trying to convince other diesel fans to get on board. But I don't think it's going to sway some of that low-brow crowd who loves to roll coal on electric vehicles. And no, I don't own an electric vehicle. I drive a wrangler.
Soooo, all you need is a nuclear reactor on the trailer to provide backup power.
I would like to see you drive behind the diesel and see how much less the battery will drain if you keep you foot out of the accelerator.
When I had my Roadrunner, I got 19 mpg when I drove rationally, but about 5 - 6 if I did full throttle all the time (not to mention tire wear, as when you spun the tires).
Another issue is larger tires ruins the range, and smaller increases the range, so the 2nd test is to use the standard tire and follow the diesel and see what the range will be.
Wouldn’t work, ev’s don’t coast, you take your foot off the accelerator in an ev, it slows to charge…. Drafting would not work as you would fall behind when you take your foot off the pedal.
@@colinmccarthy8347 you just press the pedal less not get off it completely...
You mean WIDER tires decreases range and THINNER tires increase range. Think final gear ratio and rolling resistance
@@drrightwing4435 Not wide/thin; smaller as not 35 inch (standard) or larger (he used bigger tires), but 19 or 20 inch.
Towing races seems like a weird test. The end of the video sounds like most other EV owners argument "Once the infrastructure is there"...that could realistically take decades
Everyone seems to forget all these charging stations get their power from mostly fossil fuel power plants. There aren't enough power plants now to supply the power needed, and they aren't building any new ones lately. Where is all this power going to come from? Renewable energy is a joke. What happens when there's no wind blowing that day? What happens when it rains for three days? Solar panels are only 35 percent efficient! EV's are the biggest scam on the American public. People need to do their homework and find the answers themselves and not just take the word of some politicians!
"Once the infrastructure is there" is the counter to all the people long distance hauling motorhomes as "daily driving"
They are bouth arguments used to cover the fact that the people using them have no idea what they are talking about
Never if we chase green energy
I agree with you Dave. Broaden horizons and embrace technology. But don't get into the mindset of one or the other. (if you can afford it)
TFL, did this. It's always range, ev's just can't cut it.
TFL also tows at 70MPH. Aero drag goes up with the square of speed.
The only thing more ridiculous than the Cybertruck is the amount of hate it gets
Nope the ridicule it's the overhype and uselessness of It! Why are they trying to proove comparing it to a diesel?! The Ford f350 used for tugh test in the tesla release can tow over 10,000lbs than the 800hp tesla and it has only 350hp diesel max
Yes it can go the hill accelerate very quickly but at which cost?! Diesel or ICE are like antelope they work 24/7 don't need 0-60 and they tow much more.
Imagine a 800hp diesel vs 800hp electric! The latest 500hp Ford f450 literally can tow 40,000lbs
80mph in a 65mph nice Dave. As a truck driver I climb this hill often it's nasty. good one tesla
I'm starting to think electric trucks may steal the "crowd killer" reputation mustangs have..
Ultra fast 10k pound bowling balls rolling down the road with morons behind the wheel.
Glad to see him trying it and not worrying about all the dinosaurs whining... Love the diesel and ev...
Can't beat physics, it would need a giant battery pack to get decent range while towing. I'd refer to the RAM REV 1500 for electric towing which happens to have a massive battery pack. Still, nice to know that you could pull something big in an emergency.
Technically the Hummer EV has an equally big battery pack, only the Hummer EV is so giant that it seems to waste enormous amounts of energy just lugging its own fat ass around.
@@allmybasketsinoneegg uh og h1 got about 7mpg average which is over 5kwhs per mile consumption as diesel is 37.9kwhs per gallon.
The hummev gets 45-55mpge which is about 1.5 miles per kwh. So it's actually insanely efficient for a 9,000#+1,000+hp awd on 35s monster!
Thats the case with all of them even the cars. Batteries are extremely heavy. @@allmybasketsinoneegg
That wrap on the cyber truck is sick.
I'm an over the road truck driver and I hate rentals. Mainly because of all the sensors and notifications while driving in inclement weather. How is the Cyber truck in snow, cloudy day, night, and/or rain? More often than not, all those at the same time, lol. Penski rental trucks will sometimes slam on the breaks with a collision warning screaming at you on the display and nothing is actually there. Dose the Cyber truck does the same? oh, love the show!!!!
The advance driver assist stuff is still improving.
i hear driving in snow voids its warrenty
Nice truck and I like the wrap, very awesome!
The new CATL solid state batteries are 1000+ miles range, charge in 30 minutes, 200 miles in 5 minutes, 1 mil. mile warranty or 15 years. The 600+ CATL is already in 2024 EVs, the 1000+ is coming is 2 model years.
Really loved that ending monologue!! Why hate on new and exciting technologies!?
Because it looks stupid. Everyone claims EV's will adequatly replace current fossil fuel vehicles, but based on this test is obviously false. Lithium is expensive and heavy, adding more of it has its diminising returns because you need to carry this battery. And also because Elon is a scammer no different than Theranos ->(insert technology) is what we can do this now but for you it is coming next year. FSD was coming in 2014 (or 2011 ? i dont remember) but now(2024) it is in beta so obviously a scam. I think EV technology has its merits on short routes (50km round trip), but new technology has to come out to really replace current vehicles.
Cause it's too expensive, doesn't have the range, and takes too long to charge. Plus it's ugly AF
because its not exciting. its depressing and sad
Well they sell you the illusion of ev cars being green. Sure they have thje potential to be better but they are not.
@@renegranit240 hey, what would you say is the worst part in ev regarding the enviromental question ?
i have to admit i believe they ARE more green than gas cars, but i am also curious to hear other opinions and arguments.
My word that vehicle is tremendously powerful. 80 mph uphill with a mega fat trailer and a big trail buggy on the back. That's simply outstanding and the range under those conditions will not come into the equation.
For the distance traveled and the electrons consumed, the value of the Cummins output totally blew the CT away. That truck will go up and down that mountain for relatively pennies vs. the CT, and do it all day before stopping for refuel. The the CT has good power - that's pretty much the end of it.
Them tires look good on the cyber truck and I wanna see it pull a sled at a truck pull 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Some one did that TLFV I think? It was the dual motor. 3 motor should do better.
HeavyD is a 100% role model for young people. He is one of the cleanest living people any place. I am a lot older than he is. Cheers.
How can you be clean living and buy that useless monstrosity?
Dave does have the best looking Cybertruck I've seen
I agree, but it's still ugly.😁
Excellent! Definitely room for both technologies. Your CT mods look cool!
Avoid the potholes. Their frames snap off in the back watch whistling diesels videos
Vertical tung weight is a thing right
Btw I’m not with electric it’s just a good idea
🙋♂️ THANKS DAVE,FOR SHARING THIS 👍 AND YOUR CLEVER COMMERCIAL 😎💚💚💚
Let's see a race from the west coast to the east coast. Who will win the race?
Basically any ICE powered vehicle on the planet would win the race because it doesn't have to charge every few hours and takes a few minutes to fill.
As if you attempt this in any of your vehicles. Why bother with non sense, non real world use?
Great job!!!! Truck looks awesome. Keep up the great videos.
We need a self propelled trailer to go with the cyber truck. That should double the hauling distance. Not to mention acceleration would be even more insane.
that or just strap extra batteries onto the trailer and plug it in into the rear of the truck. you almost have to to get reasonable range out of it.
Only problem is the more power generation you add like that means even more weight. Diminishing returns at best. Double the weight for 20% more range?
You can fill up the your trailer full of batteries and ask yourself 3 questions:
1. Why i need this trailer if i don't have any empty space there?
2. How long i will charge this trailer and truck together?
3. How much my neighbor will pay for the electricity that I'm using to charge the my trailer and truck together?
It will double nothing! It will just add weight and limit payload capabilities useless asf
Based on a 1000mi trip towing a travel trailer counting wind resistance also. The cyber truck would avg less than 100mi for a charge. 11 to 12 charges. Prolly would have to unhook truck from trailer to charge at stations each time. The internal combustion engine will beat the Cyber truck by a full day. I have seen a charge from 20% takes a full 1.5hrs to charge to full.
Thinking Tesla has or will have the ability for the truck to back up to the trailer ball. Hop out and finish the connection. Should not be a big deal. One can go further in a day towing with the CT by driving slower which results in fewer charging stops.
For the guy with deep pockets they are making travel trailers that do not decrease range. They have their own battery and drive unit. Charge the Truck and trailer while eating lunch. Trailer drives to charger w/o the truck.
There are so many people working on BEV tech that we can expect improvements over time. So give it some time if you don't like what you see today.
Do a real world comparison. Take both trucks fully loaded 3500 miles and see how long it takes for both to arrive at the end of the trip and what it cost for those miles, I for one would be very interested in the outcome.
Especially the cost. You're not spending $10 off your house electricity to charge up on a road trip. You're spending $30-40 a charge at a supercharger station. Every 100-ish miles? Hot damn...
The only thing I hate about the cyber truck is I DON"T have one, I love what you have done with yours!
I'd like to know the exact numbers for the kwh consumed on the hill climb itself. As well as the fuel consumption of the Cummins. The efficiency numbers are really interesting when you break them down.
The CT has a 123kwh battery pack. Diesel fuel has an energy density of 37.95kwh per gallon. The CT has an equivalent energy of 3.24 gallons of diesel fuel on board. Based on your stated consumption of 1.2kwh per mile, that's equivalent to 30mpg diesel. Total distance be damned. That efficiency is still crazy good.
Math is fun, kids!
Why are we comparing the fuel consumption with the CT going ~80 and the ICE ~60. Do you see the problem. With the current CT one might get more miles per hour driven by driving slower and charging less often. Less money too.
Values in these trucks are dropping like a rock. SO many buyers are already tens of thousands of dollars upside down.
Yeah problem is they are too heavy and destroys range limits
And the recalls, and the panel gaps, and the cracked roof, and the airbags, and the fact it can't climb, and the 4 year wait...
What data is showing their value dropping?
People that can afford these probably don't care that much about money.
@@jpoole23602 Good question - How would resale data be found? Doesn't Tesla require a buyer sign a binding "you must own this vehicle for at least 1 year" contract?
1 hr and 35 min to be exact and you need too unhook you trailer to recharge those cables are pretty short 😂
Don’t forget about the pull through and trailer friendly stations as well
Blinker fluid (battery) is one of my favorite forms of vehicle fuel.
I think Edison Motors is on the right track with their hybrid trucks as they keep going when the blinker fluid is low.
If the Tesla had an engine, I bet it could work all day with just a quarter of the fuel that the Ram would use.
They should make a cyber trailer for the cyber truck
I should do that
so add more weight in batteries. Will not be able tow any real weight
Add regeneration to the trailer wheels
@@joshstewart1869 brilliant
@@joshstewart1869 the motors are the regen. Would need motors on the trailer wheels, at least 2. Still likely cheaper than a battery.
There is plenty of room for both. The problem lies with the government trying to demand a switch. Given the option to choose is perfectly ok and there is zero problem with electric vehicles being on the road. They need to stop with the all electric push until they can make them have better range and quicker charges.
One of the actually valid jobs of our government is protecting citizens. Gasoline burning vehicles are harmful to public health, to say nothing about the environment. But I agree, there should not be a ban on new ICE vehicles. But incentives for EVs are fine.
That battery percentage will be dropping quicker than a countdown to a space shuttle launch
You do AG1 I do THC 1 both have plenty of benefits 😂😂
No electric for this old man 👍
This old man prefers a simple electric motor. Today's modern engines are too complex, problematic and way too expensive to repair.
You'll want fsd though when you forget how to go from A to B and back, lol.
with age comes wisdom.
I want to see you do this same test on a cold below freezing day in January after the truck has sat out unheated on a driveway all night.
He'll need to swap the Jeep with the "truck."
Ouch!
16:57 Straight up just...... family camper. Tow behind, maybe toy hauler.... get to a camp site with a 30amp plug in it, how long do you have to camp to recharge, how far do you get, what's the impact between 55mph and 65mph average towing with a camper, etc. 🙏🏼🤗