Why you Should NEVER Buy an Orange County Chopper
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I dont know about you guys, but for us mechanics here in Germany the OCC was basically a comedy show on how to not build things. Its like watching bear grylls and expect to be a survivialist afterwards. Really you watch it because of how ridiculous it is.
I remember one time when they built a military bike and one of them walked around with a box of random military gear that he started welding to where ever there was space on the bike. Absolut prime humor.
@@MotoDonuts I still liked the show. And you could learn something from it. There were some talented builders and some up to date technology in it. But as a concept, their bikes were mostly a joke. I believe they were fully aware of that though.
@@MotoDonuts Not to mention the biggest losers who paid stupid amounts for those trash bikes.
Oh yeah, its wild that someone would actually pay pay for one of these
Good luck with European Union mandates. I will be riding American Iron a long time while you ride electric Barbie scooters ...have fun ..
When you think about it basically they were all Sema builds
You gotta sell it back to your neighbor, he seemed stoked having it back
Make money on the video get it running fool around for a week and then sell it to the neighbor , make lots more money this way
Came here to say that too. Once the video is made, running, ridden, dyno, sell it to him. It obviously means probably more to him than anyone other than the original owner. Seems like a cool guy to have around the channel too!
We all know it was meant to be. That neighbour is meant to have that bike after this video. Praise god, and his son that was sent to save us all
Edit: grammar/spelling
I would ask him for some help at least ...😊
Yes sell it to the dude. He seems cool.
So you bought a trailer for 10k, and it came with a free crappy motorcycle.
Lol
Don't forget the cheap Swiss watch. That's no Rolex, that's for sure. I bet it keeps time though. I have a cheap Rodania from the '60s and it is as accurate as a digital watch. Loses a couple seconds a month.
I would have shock that guys hand when he offered 15K.
@@Lurch-Bot The watch could maybe be worth around $800? They're about $1400 new, and that's a 'special version' but first of all those watches lose value immediately when you buy them, and the value of that Geico version can be lower or higher depending on someone being willing to pay less or more for that 'special Geico version'.
The watch itself is an ordinary quartz trinket.
The watch was what made it worth the ten grand.
Jessie James said it " I build bikes to RIDE , OCC makes bikes to Look at ."
Absolutely , OCC built props
West Coast Choppers and Indian Larry will always be at top of every motorcycle list
Ironic that in the battle of celebrity chopper builder shows from the early 2000's, that Jessie James and Monster Garage would come out on top. I used to watch both shows as a teenager and thought they were amazing. Of course I was only like 12/13 then lol .
but dont look to closely at their welds...
Umm, every bike Jesse James ever made looks exactly the same, and that means they all look stupid. I'm impressed with his skill, but disappointed with his tastes.
A hardtail and a solid tube steel seat? Whoever designed this bike has something against buttocks and spines.
Race bike, It has a seat? Wow! so much luxury! :-)
But for real. Imagine doing a burnout on that thing, It would throw rubber all over your back and head.
Kind of like the old Greeves or Harleys, with oil on your back and in your hair.
Its just a piece of art man... they didnt build bikes to be ridden
@@zachroberts1988 yeah, if it got any use at all after being built it was to start it up and rev it to the limiter a few times.
Where we are going we don't need spines
@@volvo09hopefully not on a cold start
The trailer alone is worth a lot. 10 grand is actually not that bad for the whole package.
true
And some rc boats are expensive haha
I would have taken the 15,000 and not deal with the aggravation. Lol.
Watch is 1.5 - 2k
@@Teab8git's a very special edition, the normal version costs $2k. That's probably worth $5k+ to the right collector.
I had a buddy get a nice inheritance in 06, he ordered a bike from OCC, they said 8 months but took them 2 years...When he did get the bike It didn't make it 50 miles down the road. Then when he called to complain they ghosted him. He then had the bike towed mack to their shop they trespassed him immediately. Cops showed up and told my buddy they come out once a week for this very thing. "They sell a bike that doesn't run, person brings it back and they trespass them". He sued and they paid him extra for a NDA.
Probably BS
I’ve read a few stories similar to that from BBB claims
They can't be that bad, The engines aren't even built there, They just do the body
OCC wasn't really about bikes it was about selling advertising. A company like GEICO has a bike built for a 100k + and they got millions of views from the show. It was the cheapest advertising you could buy and it was genius on both OCCs part and GEICOs. Too bad OCCs bikes weren't as nicely built to run as they were cosmetically.
High p
I saw a comment years ago that said in the contract you sign with them they state the bikes are not meant to be ridden but are instead a display piece, and that any injuries you suffer from the bike malfunctioning or essentially falling apart they're not liable for. I've also read that they've had lawsuits from people who WERE seriously injured by their bikes literally falling apart when ridden.
Probably a shock to OCC, but you have to sell safe products in California .
@@matthouston8411 Joking aside, they weren't in California. They were in New York. There's an Orange County in both and people constantly thought it was California they were in.
If these bikes are show pieces or fir display, why put a real motor in it?
@@TheRealTburt Because people expect a real motor, especially for that price. You won't find a person who owns a chopper who doesn't enjoy cranking it to show off.
@@TheRealTburt Turn it on in the showroom. Rev a little. Shut off.
That your neighbor built part of this bike, is off the hook, CRAZY!!! I thought it was another one of your gags, until he started talking about it. WOW.
I could not agree more, Talk about luck. His neighbor saved him time and gave him valuable info.
Plus new bike friend. Am I right?
What a Wild World. This whole video was very interesting and fun.
its scripted
I still think it was very well staged, the video of it being previously ridden almost looked real.
The CaveMan was Geico mocking me in 1990s after returning from Jerusalem, about same time as SNL GoatBoy.
@@James-zh4eo @GamingInfested How do you guys know? This is what I though at first, But he's not really the type of guy to make things up. He seems to be a God fearing man and truthful. IDK? maybe I need to watch this channel more. :-)
10k for the bike the trailer and the replica race boat is the deal of a lifetime.killer find Sean.
Hell that Rolex is probably worth more than the bike alone! (Edit: as pointed out, it’s an Edox, but I are dumb and was half awake watching the video 🤦🏼♂️)
and those watches sold for around $2,400.. so he basically got 25% of his money back from just the watch
@@EddieMitz it’s an Edox, not a Rolex 😂
Hell, the trailer alone is probably $3500 give/take so the bike itself is basically $6000 down ridiculously from the $100k that it originally sold from OCC for. OCC and the chopper craze was such a huge joke to serious riders.
And the watch. He got a deal on all that.
Spent $10k and made a new life long friend. Give the bike to that guy and keep him on the channel. You’ve already broken even with the trailer, watch and views.
100% this, having a good friend and neighbor is priceless
@origamihawk I'm your neighbor. Give me a $10k motorcycle and we can be friends!
@@4wdiesels in the world of RUclips it’s all about the views man. The logic doesn’t have to work for real life
The guy has $15k cash lying at home, no need to give it away for free.
@@Okurka. then take the $15k and act like he gave it to him for RUclips. But he wouldn’t do that.
A Las Vegas casino is suing OCC after a patron won the bike, then a few months later the engine fell off the frame and caused injuries. The patron sued the casino and won, and now the casino is suing OCC.
Sadly, companies getting sued is hardly an indictment of their liability anymore, especially in the US. People sue for all sorts and win, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It's a pathetic culture. However, I suspect it's probably justified in this circumstance...
@@cameronslater1857 Jay Leno even trashed out OCC on his RUclips channel.
Apparently Leno bought one of OCC's bikes, and immediately started having trouble with the electrical and transmission; Leno rides his motorcycles, drives his cars.., so he spotted the issues pretty quickly.
Even former employees of OCC are going after Paul Sr for a variety of issues from refusing to pay wages, to making verbal threats over the telephone.
@@cameronslater1857I think the media did a better job convincing you people suing for nothing is a bigger problem than corporate greed. Seeing as you felt the need to say all that in response to something you claim to agree with.
@@jizzyb76 I think a five year old could do a better job of structuring a sentence than you just managed seeing as you felt the need to bump your gums. 👍
@@cameronslater1857 didn't bump any gums, typed pretty respectfully considered. Nice try deflecting though.
The irony of that death trap being a GEICO ad is amazng.
LMFAO great point! "We will insure anything (except this POS!)
I expect nothing less from professional racketeers
indeed.
Mayhem has entered the chat.
Plus they probably spent millions on whatever the fcuk Miss Geico Racing is (was). Money stolen from denying customer claims.
I had a similar experience. I bought a Modified 1975 Porsche 914 from a random dealer in Oregon. A few months later I was at a random gas station in California and met the initial owner that did the modifications. He told me all about the car and knew exactly everything about the car that only he would know.
Moments like those are interesting...
Something happened to me like that too. I traded in my Evo X to a Honda dealership. Then they sold it about 2 weeks later. I had wheels that were on the car that I couldn't use anymore. So I sold them. When the guy came to pick the wheels up. It was my old Evo pulling up lol. Guy lived a state over . I gave the guy a bunch of stock parts I had laying around the garage that came off the car .
@@MrJjburgess11 That's wild. Life is funny sometimes
@PipeScholar yeah , I was like what are the odds . Like I was meant to see the car one last time lol
😅 6:05 😅😮
They only thing being "fabricated" on that show was the truth.
Was that show ever a "We build bike's for daily use", I always thought it was a show about building show bike's.
😂
Dave!! He is a great guy! I served with him in Afghanistan as Apache helicopter crew chiefs. Super cool down to earth. Love him and his family. ❤
If I ever paid $140k for a motorcycle my family would (rightfully) have my head examined. No bike is worth that.
In fairness, a super rare collectors bike like what you might see in Jay lens garage might hit that much, but not a chopper.
He paid 10k for the bike
Especially one that has the comfort of a buckboard wagon .
@@Kevin-qo6jw They're talking about the original value of the bike
@@jordanblackwood84 and how do u know what someone else is talking about do u have special powers
HEy Sean when you saw the gum in the fuel lines, that is from C16 fuel all the injectors will be gummed up with that exact same stuff thats why the injector hose blew because the injector is fully clogged with C16. you can never leave C16 for any amount of time. it should be drained if you dont plan on using the bike for even a few days its that volatile
I would take the tank off. clean it out make sure no gum got in the new fuel pump. then take off the fuel rail that will need cleaning and depending how the injection is set up will either have some hose to the injector or it will go straight into the manifold. clean head to tank mate
Damn good find. how cool was that guy seeing his baby again. he obv loved that bike. and everytime you build big project bikes you leave parts of you in that bike. im sure hed love it back once you are done. or at the minim let him ride it and come visit
ya pretty much any fuel will do that c16 the worst
Yeah that's not the fuel lines gumming up, that's everything fuel related gumming up with that fuel jelly haha
Yep as soon as you see that level of gum... you gotta replace everything fuel touches and clean out the tank. Should have been the plan from the beginning to be honest... but this kinda shows his level of experience with starting up old junk. Anyone that's pulled something old back from storage/barns/fields that wants to get it running has a pretty similar check list. That's nearly the top item.
Yeah as soon as I saw the line I was thinking maybe the entire engine needs a flush
I can only think this was for content? Like its pretty obvious everything to do with the fuel system is bad, so why keep trying to crank it when there is way more du-dilegence required?
Jay Leno called them the biggest piece of crap
And went on to say the geometry was all wrong,...Dude,its a Chopper !!
Based Leno
I believe he is based in Burbank.@@500ccRabbit
He wasn’t wrong.
Choppers aren't meant to be "practical" or comfortable.
Chopped and bobbed with 300HP and no seat? That thing is a true deathtrap!
It's not even 300 hp in reality
@@Bananektdu still, I wouldn't take that junk around the block.
@ElectronicsForFun absolutely, you can't even grip it correctly
That trailer and watch is worth more than what you paid for the bike lol.
Plus his neighbor wanting 15k for it, he’d make 5k plus get the trailer and the boat for free
Exactly. The watches new sold for $2500
The watch is $2,400.00 but yea he got a great price for the stuff he got
Half a video deserves Half a like!
Your neighbor should have offered to help get the bike back into shape if he wants you to sell it to him.
Since he didn't he's out! Lol!
The trailer and watch are worth more than the bike. What are you going to do with a 200HP Hardtail? One pothole and your spine's shattered before you hit the tarmac.
soon as you see one bad fuel line you have to assume that everything touched by fuel has degraded .
Hoses , filters , pump , injectors . Honestly i would not trust those clutch lines either .
It was super cool to see that guy seeing a bike he built so long ago .
I've had this happen to me once , i helped a friend of mine build up a car for racing , he sold it , we never saw it and then i randomly found it 5 years later .
Went to look for the owner , and it is just a great feeling man , like seeing an old friend . The car was not special , but the connection i had to it warmed my heart
EXACTLY, parts of the hose are throughout the fuel system, they basically MELT...🫣
The injectors are plugged up for sure
Ethanol?
@@mrmagoo916 no, this damage is from fuel left in the lines. Over time it breaks down and starts eating the rubber. Turns into a black slugde, clogs filters, injectors, carb jets. It's nasty stuff.
Ethanol will do that as well, but it is far more likely to oxidize anything metal it touches since it pulls moisture from the air
lol at random "previous owners/builders"
got an old FZR250. was using it for courier work. random guy runs up to me... "you still riding that thing!?"
um...yeah? you know what it is? (lets say, i keep my bikes looking pretty damn rough... mad max style...)
"yeah... i SOLD IT TO YOU!!!!"
meh, during covid lockdowns, didnt realise who it was with the mask on... and as id only spoken to him for a minute or two anyway...
Your neighbor is very talented. Seems incredibly knowledgeable on everything engine related
Orange County Choppers: Bikes for rich Wee Todds.
I'm so satisfied that people are calling these bikes out. The show was cool for the drama, but the bikes were never practical. Jay Leno was the man to just say no. He owns one I believe, but he just says no. Haha
that dude deserves the bike. so humble and full of insights.
yeah he does, but BnB had to make another video first bc content or something
@cubertmiso no, he doesn't. Nobody "deserves" anything. If he wants the bike, he can fork over the dollar bills like an adult and buy it.
@@TheJoker-gg8hc ofc I meant ...to buy the bike. not to get it for free.
The best thing to come out of OCC was that one meme.
love that meme
@@BikesandBeardshi
What's the meme?
@@NickTaylorRickPowers it’s like four pictures of the father and son arguing. When people use it correctly I get a good chuckle out of it.
It's pretty sad when the show that was on for like 10 years it's boiled down to a meme😂😂
I would’ve sold that thing in a heartbeat when the guy offered 15 grand I would’ve said 1650 and it’s yours!! 😂
That man coming over and that helped build it is genuinely incredible!
It was all scripted
People are saying it was a Thompson Supercharging and this dude is fiction.
Bubba Lloyd is the guy and he had a shop from what ive found bem
Only because he figured he was gonna buy the bike after....period. Not the goodness of his heart. If Shawn said no way in hell to selling it, he'd have been on his own.
@@KrunchyTonez617That a huge assumption.
My Dad was the former director of operations for Geico offshore. His name is Chief Savering. Still going strong at 86 years old.
Tell him to send me some items!!
Great company
See if he wants to buy a little boat.
That was a well built team!
@@AnHonestLiar You asking for free stuff?
What a small world with the guy who actually worked on this bike 🤯
That racing boat is badass I'm more interested in how that thing runs
"When you inevitably fly off the bike, that stops it running."
Damn, that's mental.
And it will cost 100k to repair
It's also Metal
Like for jet-skis, I suppose
If it ever runs
Why would anyone leave fuel in that thing? Very sad how people mistreat their engines. The whole fuel system is full of varnish and gelled fuel. It had no chance of running. I am amazed that they didn't stop and clean the entire fuel system before trying to crank it the first time.
That is toe-curling instant gratification for you. Or the 'need' to make this story watch-worthy for those who lack the knowledge to be upset.
@@mmeijer635it's like his comment that that hydraulic clutch was dangerous, hydraulic brakes are fine but not clutches?, today all vehicles have hydraulic brakes and many of them have hydraulic clutches, has he never had a clutch cable brake, such a stupid comment.
why you'd ever put fuel in that horrific monstrosity of a bike in the first place is a mystery XD
Never buy anything Paul Jr. Had a hand in building. Theme bikes are trailer queens and made for display only.
Yea, real mechanics know to drain fuel system. Check for dry rot hoses, check for rust in the tank, pull injectors and make sure their clear and change filter. Then put new fuel in and run fuel pump to see fuel coming out at the fuel rail. Know for sure it's ok, then if it don't start, only thing left is spark. Which is the other thing to check. Pull plugs, replace wires due to dry rot, then try to fire it up.
You could see it in the builders eyes this ment so much to him! imagine seeing your baby return after so many years. This better have a wholesome ending please !
Really? I thought he was lying
he didnt lie, vic mackey lies.@@post-leftluddite
@@post-leftludditethe 8 year old video of him riding it wasn’t enough? Or the fact he knew so much about the bike?
@@post-leftludditewhat about his demeanour made you think that?
@@post-leftludditehe should them a video of him on the bike!
All orange county choppers was, was Puuaaauulie Seenya and Puuaaauulie Joonya yelling at each other.
That's the only reason most of us watched.
Their stuff looked cool for the time but i know a few guys who rode one and said it was a death trap. My buddy Ted said he got rolling on one he was going to buy and stopped before he shifted out of 1st because the front wheel geometry was so bad it scared him. He said the forks wanted to lay over and it was a huge fight to keep the wheel straight.
.. I've basically heard the same of another many years ago - it's not all just hearsay
Dont buy it without a ride, simple
They were show bikes. I’m surprised you didn’t realize that..? 😮
They are art pieces and that is really it. They handle like a semi truck and really are only good for a straight line and that's it. This geico bike is clearly a show bike only but theoretically could be used for drag racing. I want to get into making custom bikes but I want to make functional works of art that you would want to drive everyday and not just shelve. It does no good if nobody ever sees it and if you only ride it once.
One of my neighbors had one, he rode it once, then tried to sell it . . . first listed it at $80k. Every year he dropped it by $10k. He finally sold it fir $12k to a kid who didn't know any better.
I'm from orange county NY and before these guys went commercial and started mass producing bikes, they had some very good very well built machines. Their downfall was going the route they did. They had so much respect for their builds before the gimmicks and shenanigans.
I still enjoyed their shows....these bikes are really art pieces more than bikes...the creative spirit of these bikes is what the whole point was....plus making money...LOL...
@@steves3688 yea people don't seem to understand that they decided they would make a lot of money creating advertising that had motorcycle components.....it was unfortunate that they had the personal drama that they did and that it was real, but there are a lot of people in the USA that have worked in family businesses that can relate to that as well.....especially ones that had a wild period of growth because of the opposing talents and drives of two different generations....that ended up having a lot of appeal and viewership too
Discovery ruined a lot.
Holy cow this video has everything! Crusty, a mystery box, a Cavewoman’s bike, a boat, a collectors watch. And the odds being neighbors with the guy that had a hand in building a completely one off bike. I’m guessing that bike was a big tax write off originally lol.
They absolutely are, and they're generally paid for out of their advertising budgets.
I know an acquaintance that lost a sizable drag racing sponsorship to a company that had a custom bike built for the TV show fairly early on, and he they were up front about how they were trying to widen their brand, so their advertising was going to try something different, plus there was no animosity apparent between them, so I tend to believe it .
@@ChuckChuckBoBuck i loved that show back in the day. I still may watch it occasionally and find clips on YT. IDK any other TV people that rose to fame so quickly and fell so hard in the end.
O.C.C. was the biggest joke in the motorcycle business they never made a GOOD RELIABLE OR SAFE motorcycle.
The odds of meeting the man who essentially fit and finished the bike, are astronomical. This video has definitely made me more interested in bikes!
Currently, the US and Canada's combined population is over 382 million. 1:382,000,000?! Astronomical odds indeed!
It was divine destiny
Not when you consider there are very few people that do that kind of custom work, in fact there are only a handful in the US.
What amazed me about the OCC TV show was how stupid and how little people knew about motorcycles but were prepared to spend 1\4 milion dollars on a bike that is basically a full size toy with no brakes. No speedometer. No rev counter. No ignition or even be able to ride the thing due to the geometry making it so unsafe. And less HP than many scooters.
what a beautiful coincidence - you can tell the passion the guy had for the motorcycle he built. great vid!
... definitely a huge diff when u build your own - I do just that - the pride every day when it comes time to fire n' do a ride - all the issues in the world vanish within those moments til the return back to the world re-awakening - and to perform the ritual thruout many years - absolutely priceless
So you think there's no chance these guys had never discussed this bike, or the fact this guy did work for OCC in the past, and fabricated this one in a million coincidence to make a more interesting video?
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The first bike I rebuilt, was a 1973 cb750 sohc from a military guy in Virginia. After 10 years I sold it on ebay to a guy in Florida. By CHANCE! Sold it to the son of the guy I bought it from.
fawk! that's a serious synchronicity!
same stock look ? his son probably on the look out for the same bike , lol
What a trip
I would rather have the boat instead of the bike..
I'm still wondering what model it is!!!! I've never seen them that big unless there the jet powered turbine engines
@@hiajoonblitz8334right but looks like it’s just a model hull for display.
I wonder why it's so heavy though.@@LukeK1738
@@hiajoonblitz8334 The full size boat was a 50 foot mystic running twin Lycoming turbines. Made 4200 up.
I hope it's remote control
3:50 you almost had me, until I realized your neighbor clued you in on this bike, because the guy passed, and then you bought it, so you could film this fake produced segment.
All their bikes were built poorly. Any decent builder would not even watch that series.
Man, I used to think OCC was SO COOL back in the day! Watched Every episode.
That story that your neighbor helped build it, is Insane! Just a ridiculous cool story! And, his info about the bike is super helpful!
Everyone did. Show was huge! Imagine all the merch sold on account of that tv show! All only to be called out 20yrs later for the shoddy quality. They appealed to the style of the times for sure.
😂I thought the show was lame like all tv shows scripted. RUclips has killed tv shows completely.
@@geoffws6they had deadlines for the show and couldn’t finish things like they should and outsourced work off camera like this bike… pretty sad what hollywood and money does.
So in summary, OCC are artists and not mechanics.
I would take the $15,000 you were offered.
... but that's not going to make a video that makes more money.......
I'm not being personal with this, but the only sort of artists they were, were Bulls**t artists. It was all smoke and mirrors.
@@onecookieboy So you're saying Vinny and Rick were hacks??? WRONG!
@@steves3688 Mate, they hardly made a single motorcycle that was actually fit for use as a motorcycle. Nice bits of furniture, crappy motorcycles.
@@onecookieboyWell... they did build choppers, not touring bikes. They're like donks; all "show", no ergonomics, no comfort, no handling.
I had a fuel pump on an outboard seize up with old fuel. I used a SeaFoam soak for about 1 hour and could work the impeller a bit and then it freed completely shortly after. It made me a believer in the SeaFoam and saved me an $800 fuel pump replacement. Cool video. Ulster County
Ethanol is the worst thing to happen to the petroleum industry since opec.
buddy knows a guy who starts mothballed boats all winter for like $10 a month per boat. once a fuel pump sits and seizes up , its $500 for a replacement with labor so 10/mo is nothing for a boat owner. He does about 100 boats a month, just starts them up and lets them idle for a few minutes and shuts them down. He as yet to have a customer state the pump is out when they get it back in service.
@@houseofsolomon2440 the Bo Gulf disaster is a lil worse then having to keep ur fuels lines from clogging it's called run than motor fewinuts once a week . Make it a Sunday funday chore add to list and never had the issue u stated
@@houseofsolomon2440 Consumer ethanol is greatest thing since slice bread
@houseofsolomon2440 you're nuts
As Jeremy Clarkson famously said.... hand-built is a fancy way of saying that the door would fall off. But OCC and his car-butchering counterparts took it a whole new level.
Rolls Royce is hand built. It's not always true about being less quality work.
This only shows how incompetent on driving people with driver's license are. It doesn't take in depth or even rudimentary knowledge on mechanics to realise that for example in this bike, the front for suspension has no chance of working at this angle it was put on.
Home-made and hand-made are two different things.
How sad are we as a society that mass production is now seen as the pinnacle of quality?
That being said, OCC is not quality. It's just expensive.
@@randyoehlert5045my father does auto body and restorations and has worked on 3 rolls Royce’s. They’re nice, but the hand built nature absolutes hurts the quality.
@@brianbelgard5988 At the end of the day they are humans. It's possible to do things as well as a robot, but takes a lot of time and motivation.
When OCC was on TV, they didn't even build their own frames. They had a custom builder make them. That's why you never saw them welding up a frame.
Yep,the basic models, they bought all the parts in bulk and then just bolted them together for ridiculous money.
@@davehoward22 At least later, when the company had a large headquarters, the frames of the custom bikes were manufactured in-house.
reminds me of a "custom drum shop" in my area that doesn't even make their own drum shells. Just paints the shells and attaches hardware... Quite a big following as well.
Probably bought the frames from Jireh...
OCC is a joke - right?
You'd never ride one of those death traps! Only a fool would ever do so.
Thats why B N B is spending alot of money getting a shelf queen to run so he can ride it with Paul Sr..............LOL
Man for 10 grand he got a sweet trailer, a nice watch and a cool little mini Geico boat. Not too bad
I was half expecting it to be cursed object, such that once it was in the shop getting serviced, everybody might start getting confrontational and throwing chairs around.
Exactly!!! 😆😆😆👍👍👍👍😆😆😆😆
This comment wins the day 😂
Yeah but only when they see cameras recording.
I was stationed at the ANG base right on the other side of the fence from the new OCC facility for several years. When they had their 15 minutes, they went big. The facility was nice. Had their show bikes on display, a merch shop, a couple bowling lanes, and a bar and grill. 6 or 7 years ago, they sold the building and rented it back from the new owners. When I left in 2022, the building was abandoned and had a for sale sign in front of it. Not much of a market for 6-figure bikes that are barely rideable I guess.
It’s more like art
So after selling the building and then renting it back occ ended up leaving? Do they still exist or gone for good?
I'm glad I got to visit before it left. It was pretty cool imo and got to see Sr in there and down the road we saw Jr's place but no Jr. We did however see a bunch of guys riding tricked out choppers so maybe we did end up seeing more people but didn't realize. My dad watched the show a lot and I still got my shirt from there
@michealknight3776 it's more like fart 💩
@@s1dew1nd3r4JR had opened his own shop directly across the street from their first shop about 15 min up the road. Think JR is now in NJ now and SR is in FL.
The company I worked for spent $400,000 for a Orange County Chopper advertising package. It was not worth it. We got a nice looking bike that wasn't even street legal. A few T-shirts, and 45 seconds on the program. We also gave them custom build spraybooth. We were promised advertising about our facility. When we complained we were told that OCC didn't have control of the program.. We spend a years worth of advertising for 45 seconds of them presenting the bike to our owner.
Sounds like your boss is a gullible guy 😆
Didn't he at least watch one episode? Everybody knows this was all a scam
@@h.g.buddneI don't disagree. I finally quit that business even though I was the only electrical designer and programmer. Later he hired a young guy that restructured our pricing and company model and things went down fast. He wound up alienating our biggest customer.
On discovery channel? You got a good deal. Not a commercial, but a 45 second spot on a mainstream tv show? That’s great advertisement. No offense but you got your moneys worth.
@@kregadeth5562I don't agree. It's not even a tiny bit of what we were promised. The only mention of the company I worked for was them presenting the bike to the owner. Not a thing about the company itself or the custom spray booth we built for OCC. They originally told us they would include shots of them using the spray booth to paint the bike. We erected the booth in our shop and they filmed the painting. Then we moved the booth to their shop. Not one second of any of this was shown. We paid $400,000 and the bike was crap.
No wonder OCC has been hemorrhaging money and selling stuff for years.
Listen I don't ride or pretend to but everyone knows you shouldn't buy one an OCC🤡
This channel and The Bearded Mechanic are by far favorite things to watch on yt. Thank you so much for being awesome regardless if it a 1k bike or a 15k one i love to watch this channel!
Jay Leno and a guest (can’t remember who), both have OCC’s and bashed just how shitty they are. They’re made so cheaply and just thrown together. The one example had everything electrically important, wired with the rear taillight.
I highly doubt that what I watch Paul Jr design and build is cheap let alone not done well... are the worth 150k no but they are Def not made cheap
Paul Snr made a RUclips video responding to Jay Leno's allegations.
Living in Finland , Even I heard Jay Leno Trash the bike custom built for him.
They’re show bikes. Duh. You didn’t realize that ??
@orangemanbad well that's not what Leno said. He paid for a custom bike, so he could ride it. That's not some Corporate Show bike as in this clip or for eg. The Gillette bike. Those are show bikes. And don't they show the bikes being riden by the Orange CC show people?
“Knock knock - who is it ? “
“The guy who was just in there setting up a camera”
😂
The yanks just can't help themselves
Indeed, that was pretty contrived.
How it has not become a trophy is beyond me. It's everywhere* trophe.@@kingcosworth2643
@@kingcosworth2643some people just want to believe. This guy knows what he’s doin and excels at it. Every fib is laced w/the right balance of supposedly being true while also being unbelievable, in order to spark an endless debate promoting activity to go toward reaching the endgoal; entertainment that makes money.
Because buying anything from some dude that looks like a walrus is never a good idea
Amen brother...its amazing how the real builder of the motor was your new neighbor..Im sure with some brainstorming and some liquid encouragement....All will be fine...
I doubt liquid encouragement will be involved, if he's reciting Bible verses. Maybe I'm wrong. I never watch this channel.
Think about the hours and hours of research time he didn’t have to spend just by him being his neighbor. The ignition and starting alone.
10G is a steal. If i had a used motorcycle dealership and could put this on my showroom, i'd do it in a heartbeat. And you got a nice watch and a good trailer!
Even if it won't run right, as a piece of art, it's worth it.
the trailer, used and empty, is worth nearly that.
This bike is a literal "Cash Cow" for this guy, he knows it and thats why he didnt sell it to the guy for $15k.
Im sitting here fully consumed in this show. Completely away from my own problems in my life. Thanks for a good time man!!!!!
AT first, I thought this was going to be kind of uninteresting. Boy was I wrong. The neighbor who built it, the horsepower and technology and even the safety clip are just unbelievable! This is good video substance! Wow. I really enjoyed this video man!
NOOOO! Gotta see the finale, lol. What a wild story. The guy next door, the gifts included in the trailer, the problems, lol. I half expected the box to hold another fuel pump, lol. Looking forward to the next installment. God bless!
I thought that too -- a box of random parts from the previous guy who tried to get it running 🤣
I clicked on this thinking it wasn't going to be worth my time that it was just going to be some stupid thing.
Then BAM!!! When the next door dude pops in saying he built it and told you EVERYTHING ... I WAS HOOKED!! INTRIGUING ASF!!!
I was totally BLOWN AWAY!!!
SWEET ASF VIDEO!!!!!
I use to watch OCC often. Obviously I missed this episode on this particular chopper.
You got a steal deal there👌🙂👍 great video!
Best b&b episode by far!
No, Paul Sr got the steal!! 😊
why would you NOT have the guy next door that built it there when you were trying to get it running,,,
I bet he knows a ton of shortcuts you never thought of ...
Fast forward is an asset with videos like this.
Always hated that show. The fights between the father and son were soul crushing. That they eventually had such a big fight they couldn't reconcile was obvious but painful nonetheless.
I agree. Huge egos and greed. I liked Mikey though. I think he was the young kid who just wanted everyone to get along so he turned to comic relief to try to break the tension.
@@hofahome was always my gripe always argueing. sad it was between father and son. now all the argueing come from naked and afraid!!! lol
I own the second bike Vinnie and Cody built once they opened up V Force customs, big diff in how Vinnie builds his bikes mine has a Rolling Thunder frame, Jims 131 engine, Baker hydro clutch trans, Baker Toque box and Baker Right side drive. Justin Barnes painted the bike which is off the charts, the bike is forsale if your wanting a true OCC built by one of the real builders after he left the show...This is the honest truth the bike Vinnie built is honeslty caple of being ridden and it runs, his work is hands down perfection.
Sounds like Vinnie put together a decent bike compared to what they had the guys doing in occ
@@s1dew1nd3r4 He did and with non of the BS his old bosses were always doing i worked with Vinnie on sourcing a high end engine and drive train, something that OCC did not do from the junk Rev Techs they used to dumping 70hp Evo's in . This bike Vinnie built again i have the Vids for the unvieling and both him and Cody coming back for a Cancer benift we ran... I still belive this is one of few bikes built out of the OCC debacle is mine.
Awesome that you have one of the V Force bikes. Vinnie seemed like an awesome guy and I believe you when you say he builds a quality product. I grew up watching OCC and almost changed careers based on that show. I'm so jaded about the whole thing now and what OCC became.
*capable
That bike wasn’t “built”. It was assembled and painted. Nice parts, but still off the shelf parts.
The OCC Dixie Chopper bike was built by a friend of mine and his dad in Indianapolis. They were friends with the people who owned or worked for Dixie Chopper.
Lmao sure
LIAR
I would have sold it the second he said 15k.
You beleive in synchronicity you got the bike and the builder on the same spot , that is a gift . Good luck with the project that make a good show 🏁
... good comment - fully agree
Cool to see you collaborating with Crusty Grunt Cycles. Dave is a good dude.
So you know him personally? Amazing everybody knows everybody
@@thomgizziz Yeah it's a small world. His shop is nearby, he's an Army veteran, and puts on several benefit rides for the community and has bike nights at his shop
Ive been telling people at the shop for years not to buy an OCC bike and quoted your original video of it. I love your channel bud. It promotes the good side of riding and thats what i like. Its been my lifelong dream to be able to offer free tune ups to the kids at the track who cant afford help, every year im getting so much more closer. I am always so proud when they recognize my bikes and beards stickers on my trailer, it immediately lets me know theyre a good kid. Rider kids always look up to the big dawgs its our job to steer them in the right direction. Im the oddball preachers grandson but my grandma loves this channel ❤️ thou shall rideith brother lol
Most custom vehicles are flawed in some ways. To design a great vehicle, you need design, then remake after correcting bugs and design flaws. Repeat a few times before they will be perfected.
I don't quite understand how anyone would ever buy one of their bikes after seeing a single episode of the show.
I don’t even like motorcycles at all but this was in my RUclips feed and it is so cool. Absolutely amazing that your neighbor helped build it.
Me too! Saw in my feed and said "hey that looks cool" and I dont even own a motorbike!
Are you a liberal/Democrat or something?
@@Grandmasterkiller I just read your comment, then read the comment you're commenting on. IN MY OPINION... at 1st I wasn't sure if your comment was apropos? Now I'm re-reading the 1st comment: "I don't even like motorcycles, AT ALLl..." & I find your comment thoroughly ON POINT! 😅
@@Grandmasterkiller Nope, just never really cared for motorcycles. I like to have four wheels and a bunch of metal around me. Different strokes for different folks!
@@GrandmasterkillerAmericans who make literally EVERYTHING political are so obnoxious.
I asked occ to build me a custom chopper and they literally laughed in my face and called me a gay idiot with no friends. I told Paul sr he looked like a poor mans hulk hogan and he pepper sprayed me.
That never happened.
In the history of things that never happened, that's one that never happened the most.
What happened after you were pepper spraed?
@@Koen75NL I screamed my brains out and freaking fell down and twisted my ankle.
@@derangius dude your whole life is a joke compared to the things I’ve seen and done. I literally got taken advantage of by a man I believed was 50cent but it turned out to be a white guy who spray painted himself brown and was just really good at saying G UNIT. He said he’d help launch my rap career if I’d give him a handy j behind Sears so I freaking did it. And guess what… turns out that dudes name was Brandon not 50cent at all. So I got totally ripped off.
I'm a sub. I'm an old bike guy and I'm a Christian. Not only am I a great fan of yours, I'm so happy to be associated (in a small way) with you and the great people you have on the channel.
I'm 68 and been on bikes since I was 14 when my brother and I bought the worst Harley every. The only thing that was good was the motor (most of the time) and he and I had to work hauling hay, mowing grass, fixing fences or anything that would help out the family and to be able to buy parts (mostly used). We were as poor as it gets, but I had a blast as a kid. Didn't know I was poor till I got to High School because everyone I knew was poor. But, my clothes were always clean, we never went hungry and we never owed money. Dad passed when I was 8 and Mom had a stroke having me so my oldest sis had to raise the rest of us (4) as a teenager. The one thing my brother and I had in common was that bike. We worked on it every day and kept our bike money in a mason jar in the hall closet. 90% of what we earned went to help the family, just like my other brother and sister, but we kept 10 % for the bike and ourselves. When I was almost 16, I rode it from Oklahoma to Sturgis (this is the old Sturgis when it was real MC's and not what it is now. Bike ran great. Only broke down 17 times going up and back. 5 less than normal. Ha. Best moment I had was when about 6 guys from the Hell's Angles peeled off from the trail of their group to help me. Nicest people I ever met. Not only did they fix my carb problem they left me with some tools that they knew I would need and did.
People don't know how cool these guys were, or how nice. This was the early 70's and because of the crap you saw on TV and in movies, that wasn't those guys. Respect them and they respect you. They didn't have to help me but they did. I'm 68 with cancer and I've told that story a million times because it's stayed with me that long. It wasn't the only time I met a HA either. Ran into one when I was 20 at a gas station in NM. These guys were patched up and the real deal. They said hi and looked at my bike (still a poor mans bike but I kept it running). They were super nice and I told them about the story of when I was younger. We got to talk a long time as they were taking a break. I learned a lot about patches and rockers and what not to do when you meet a real MC. They weren't trying to sound tough, they were doing me a favor. Respect is big for these guys.
Years later, a friend of mine bought a bike and brought it buy to show me. Not too many year back. It was before Wild Hogs, the movie came out. I remember that because when he brought his bike over he brought his new leathers including his jacket with upper and lower rockers with Oklahoma and Born to raise Hell and to top it off, he had a 1% diamond on. I explained how bad of an idea this was for him to EVER have it on in public. Ha.
Went too far, but I always do with bikes. Finished completely hand restoring a 1975 Honda CB 360T. Not a inch of that bike was touched by other than me. About a truck load of 0000 and new mods.
I love the people that work on them. It takes more than people think. They're like Swiss watches. Every part has to work perfectly.
I read this entire thread. Amazing story
Very cool story. The 5 times less than normal line got me laughing
$2400 watch@@BikesandBeards
@@BikesandBeards Did you ask them why they painted that chopper the same color as the phlegm that I coughed up, the last time I had bronchitis?
Crazy video. What a small world with your neighbor. Between the trailer, rc boat, and custom watch, you basically got the bike for free.
What a crazy sequence of events! I think that bike was meant to be reunited with your new buddy 2 doors down.
This is the coolest video I’ve seen in a while, great bike, it’s amazing the neighbor saw the bike and had the personal connection with it. Keep rockin 🤙🏾
Never liked orange county bikes and this bike is reminding me why, thanks for reminding me.
that’s honestly really cool that your neighbor did all the work on that bike. Thats really got to feel nostalgic for him❤
He didn't do ALL the work.
Looks like the watch retailed for around $2500. Between that and the trailer I think you broke even.
He's up. His neighbor offered 15K as is.
$950 now
🤣
Also... it's a mechanical watch. It almost certainly works fine, you just need to wind it. I don't see "automatic" anywhere on the face, but since it's a custom Miss Geico watch, it might still have an automatic winder, which uses the motion of your arm to keep it wound while you wear it. Also, it's a chronograph, so you can use it like a stopwatch and stuff.
@raelik777 you actually just need to push the dial "in". All nice watches come with the dial "out" so as to not drain the battery.
Had one of my tenants in Georgia win a occ giveaway bike in Daytona during bike week! But they wouldn’t let him ride it home b4 registration and insurance! They delivered it to his apartment! It was going to cost him $7500 to register after tax and title fees and $250 a month to insure. He ended up selling it to his insurance agent for $60,000 cause he was not going to pay that to park something in his garage and maybe ride it once a month!
Smartest thing he ever did was sell it for 60k.
No motorcycle dealership will let you ride a bike home without proof of insurance and a motorcycle license - stupid………..
@@jasonthemason1971honestly that shouldn’t be their business imo.
@@sc1338 somewhere along the way, we let the government determine it was their business to know...
The box said, "Master watchmaker - Les Genevez, since 1884," with Les Genevez being a municipality in Switzerland.
The watch was $2,400 pre order priced
@@dalefairfield9728 and he removed the protective wrapping on the custom watch.... 🤣🤣🤣
@@tonycrabtree3416 How else is he going to wear it?
@@crossbones8956 🤣🤣🤣 Well, I mean, usually you don't. but yeah, anything the man wants, he can do!
@@tonycrabtree3416 Not wearing a watch that you own is about as pointless as owning a watch in the first place.
Not a bike guy. I came out of morbid curiosity about OCC. As a watch nerd, I LOVED they mystery box.
When there seems to be a mandate to accept every morally compromised view on life except Christianity,
good on you for sharing a bit of the good stuff in your videos. Thank you.
This is awesome you found the one guy who knows so much about it. keep up the fun vids cheers.
Sean: occ bikes aren’t great
Also Sean: but this one comes with a boat
I used to watch OCC with my dad years ago. He was a disabled Vietnam Vet, and he loved the POW-MIA bike. I bought him the dvd of that episode and bought him the small scale model of that bike.
I noticed the 101st Airbourn flag in the background. I used to work in a shoppette on Ft. Campbell, Kentucky.
I had the model of the POW-MIA bike as a kid, lol. Thanks for triggering some good memories, stranger. 💪🏼💪🏼
Lol I think that was my favorite bike design they ever did.
"I will give you 15k just so I can have it for a decoration" I hate rich people.😂😂😂😂
These themed bikes were built merely for TV & large corporations that wanted the PR on the show & then to have it sit at their HQ in the lobby. It’s funny because I was young when I used to watch the show (I really liked it back then) & thought these bikes were so cool & good quality. Little did I know. 😂🤣
SELL IT
Hey Bikes and Beards...jaf here from the Philippines big fan of your work... Y'all have an awesome year!
You are buying a "harley engine" and expect it to run. 😂😂😂
The fact that your neighbor worked on the bike was really cool! Great video looking forward to part 2!