Big Boy Battle: GMC Sierra HD AT4X AEV vs. Ram 2500 Off-Road Smack Down!
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$104,000 for a truck! My God that is crazy
That was a house not to long ago!!!
Right? I paid $130,000 more for my house 4 years ago in the suburbs.
That's 25% more than my first house
Have you seen the truck? Y’all make these comments and don’t even watch the reviews. Just go around to every high dollar vehicle you can’t afford to complain about pricing.
@@G-Rated seeing the truck doesn’t make you feel better about how much it costs. It’s not always that someone can’t afford it, but rather feels like their hard earned $104,000 could be much better spent. Would you buy a $100 fast food cheeseburger just because you can afford it?
Andre really summed up the biggest issue with his truck with his comment about not wanting to roll the windows down and have dust get inside the beautiful cabin. Built for trails, but too nice and expensive to take on trails.
I own a ram, and that particular ram is super badass. But boy, is that GMC cool.
I think I’d rather have the Ram. A. Cummins B. Looks better C. Does just as well if not better than the GMC thanks to how well that LSD works. Yeah the GMC is more comfortable and has better tech but you could get all that on the Ram if you wanted to fork out the money.
@@JonBecker81You will not get it at the same quality that is of the GMC. Stellantis technology is not on par with *gm* and that’s no secret. Traction control is apart of that since these things are electronically controlled.
@@G-Rated not that I could afford either one of them anyway.
Those trucks look enormous off-road
Idk why we don't go smaller with better suspension and better turn ratio... these trucks are built to tow 😂😂
Both are amazing vehicles, but if I had 100k to play with I'd go for the GMC. It's more comfortable, has better tech, and everything on it is factory warrantied
You can get the same comfort and tech in a 2500 Rebel with a warranty and it’s cheaper.
On gas models, AEV Prospectors have computer controlled features for suspension and load. They're so smooth and quiet, for having 37" mudders, my girl has no problem sleeping when we drive. You have to see for yourself...
I like case's logic. I too am 6 pack capable but don't come equipped with it.
Yup, Dodge all day long. You all need to learn how to air down and air back up when off-roading.
Crazy prices! The GMC is gorgeous and to me, the Ram looks the same as it did 10yrs ago.🤷♂️
AT4X HD... the name sounds Ultra Heavy Duty..what a beast. Love the tall front end. Awesome video TFL
The power wagon don’t care
That GMC AEV truck is a beast!.
I said same thing. It took that trail like a boss
Until that section where it hit frame right? DODGE ACTUALLY COMPLETED THE COURSE...
@@Wicked_RotF30only once. Dodge is junk
Did you miss the part where it has bigger tires? lol@@Wicked_RotF30
@@Wicked_RotF30NO IT ACTUALLY DIDNT SOOOOOO
Drove a Chevrolet 2500HD ZR2 with the Duramax. Amazing! But huge! Been a while since I've driven a HD truck.
RAM LSD is way better than the GM G80.
I'd love to see an off road test of the 1/2 ton GMC Sierra with the X31 package and the 3.0 Duramax over that same terrain.
I just bought one of those and I'd love to see them test it off road.
The GMC has a ton of cameras, plus it has rear lockers. The interiors are about equal. In other words, put 37s on the GMC.
If y’all haven’t tried it I’d recommend taking one of the front sway bar end links off for off-roading. I did it on my ram 2500 and it made a notable difference. It seriously improved the off-road comfort.
Same on my f350. Makes a huge difference
Or, make it fair and take power wagon, with electronic disconnects
toyota has electronic sway bar discconnect
What do I think? I think if you are going OR on a frequent basis and or want to, these are not suited for that. They can get off the trail, that is for sure. They are capable to go places you would not want to daily these, but that does not make them ideal for it. That's what I think.
Is it really a better off-road truck than one that has selectable front and rear lockers on solid axles, sway-bar disconnect, bead lock capable wheels, 12k winch, and off road suspension. Standard.
Power wagon 💪🏿 of course or a Rubicon from Jeep
104k? What? It better massage my front side as well for that price!😮
You can technically buy the AEV Ram from the factory new also. Just have to buy from an authorized AEV Ram dealer.
They are made every other year, the Chevy and dodge models. And it's the only way to get the AEV Badges on your truck.
Never seen grown men whine so much about not have enough cameras for offloading...
Hopefully Ram watches this and takes notes on how to have a winch and a diesel on an off roader…. Cough!!power wagon and HD rebel…
AEV also makes the 3500 HD Cummings Diesel rock crawler along with the 2500 and Rebel. That is one Hell of a truck.
Wow the GMC is beautiful beast.
So the AT4X doesn’t come with a front locker on the 3/4 ton and you only get it on the 1/2 ton?
You can walk into several Dodge/Ram Dealerships and get a Prospector XL that has the 3/36,000 factory warranty that is locked f/r, metal bumpers and 40” tires.
Those are Ram dealers who are also AEV dealers. The warranty is also through AEV and if you read the fine print is not nearly as comprehensive as a true factory warranty. No loaners, no roadside assistance, no payment deferrals, while it's getting repaired, it's not transferable. If their parts cause damage to a factory component they won't cover that either. This GMC has a full actual factory warranty that covers everything a normal new vehicle warranty does.
@@dcl97 Hi there, the GMC/AEV and/or RAM/AEV if done through the GMC or RAM dealerships still have the factory GMC and/or RAM warranty. It works the same for both. For both, AEV accessories are included on the window's sticker and insured as a whole (very expensive) insurance.
@@dcl97 Given how pathetic the factory warranty was on my 2022 Silverado 1500, it's hard to imaging it being worse! only 36K miles (hit that in a year); no loaners; etc. Aside from the overall 'eh...they all do that' mentality of GM dealers.
My gm dealer gives me a lifetime warranty on powertrain on the at4x hd aev duramax!!!
A great driver with 35's can often do more than a novice on 37's.
So glad you mentioned the horrible throttle control while crawling in the ram. It's literally one of the reasons I sold mine. They gotta fix that.
I know the straight axle is supposed to be stronger too, but man that GM rides SO much better. Love the video!
A tuner will allow you to change the throttle sensitivity. I can make it where full throttle is 5% of the power.
It's junk, every Dodge/Fiat is trash bro🤷♂️
You should have put a Carli suspension on that RAM. You wouldn't even spill your coffee. My 21 RAM MegaCab costs way less than that GM AT4 even with the top of the line Carli suspension I installed. Buy a baseline truck and spend your $ on the suspension, tires, and 17 or 18 inch wheels.
whatta you into the truck for? sounds like a unit
I tried telling them before they installed the bds system. Carli is the best way to go.
@@TJY2K I'm not a Cari fan; I just assume they are another desert-y company and not much of a crawler company, but given just the name BDS (literally the PC version of Big D!ck Suspension) I have to assume they are crap.
@@donhappel9566than you assume wrong...bds is one of the top aftermarket suspension companys.
And bds stands for "better designed suspension"
I had Carli on my 2011 Ram 2500 with the Cummins. I am once again looking for a 3/4 ton truck, and it will definitely have a Carli system. They make very quality suspension systems.
I'll take my Cummins ALL DAY over a Duramax.
The Ram's rear LSD is really impressive, I thought it was a locker at first. Far better than the G80.
Helical LSD’s are pretty smooth, even the Power Wagon comes with it and ELD.
The g80 is garbage
Good thing the GM didnt have a G80 and had a proper locker rear end
@@freedomisntfree_44 Spoken like a man who ones one! (yeah...me too. I put it in the 'better than nothing' class)
GM should have put a helical LSD in the front of the AT4X and ZR2. Can’t believe they didn’t do that…
Really nice video. GMC Sierra super nice. Ram getting old in the tooth
I don’t understand why there’s so much hype about getting off-road packages from the factory. They’re expensive from the factory. You can get much better aftermarket parts after you purchase the truck. And you get to really pick what you want.
This is a good example of both options. The Ram was built with aftermarket parts, where as the GM was built from the factory. Some people don't want to pick and choose they want a truck that is ready to go.
It’s all about warranty stuff
Powerwagon would put both of them to shame
So a top of the line new GMC did marginally better than a bottom line Ram with a lift kit, lol. Maybe do a fair comparison next time, a new Power Wagon vs a new AT4.
The issue is the AEV package is only offered on the 2500. Those AEV bumpers weigh 350lbs which reduces the payload. Chevy should have offered the AEV on the 3500 which has more payload.
REALLY wish SOMEBODY would offer their off road set up with an 8ft BED.
You know, some people like to go off road AND actually work for a living, ie, would like to carry a piece of plywood from time to time. 😳
As someone that does a lot of mountain hikes and has to rock crawl trails to get there. I can tell you there is no way in hell I’d take a heavy duty truck up a trail. So damn big I’d lose the paint on both sides of the truck. Even half ton trucks are getting too big
With the mirrors folded in there the same width as a half ton. I didn't believe the specs at first but it's true I measured my f150 and super duty same width. Trucks are definitely getting bigger but my superduty is narrower then chevy toyota and ram 1/2 tons. The long wheel base and height make it tough sometimes but doable. Definitely don't get a heavy duty truck if your not carrying weight though when empty they ride rougher add weight and they smooth out.
There is an AEV Bison Colorado that would do the job!
No doubt, our jeeps loose paint, my 3/4 ton, would loose more than paint. We use the 3/4 ton to tow Airstream 3-5 miles off pavement and set basecamp. It would be nice on long trips to leave the jeep at home and at least be able to slowly get fairly far back, but definitely not all the way we get the jeeps. At4x will shortly replace our 9 year old denali, as soon as recession has dealerships willing to negotiate a little
I like the Dodge and its solid front axle. $104k for the GMC no thanks, that should get me a Peterbilt.
Now let's see that gm vs the power wagon vs the tremor superduty
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In a quarter million dollar battle to the death!!!
You guys are fun but your not experts! You do not even have engineering degrees? You only have your opinions 😮! Clowns! But I enjoy your personality. Just a matter of time before industry takes you you out🤥
Just bought the AT4x AEV 3 weeks ago , very very happy with it. 🙂
You are not supposed to dodge anything, step on the gas and RAM it.
😂 Ram dealers offer the AEV Prospector Power Wagon with 37's or 40's with warranty.
DODGE RAM 2500 The Best
Lol once they got to the price I just paused the video ain't no way anyone wants to take that big ass truck off roading in a anywhere with trees for 100k. You can't see anything around the truck and cant fit down most of our trails plus it's not like your gonna be towing a 15k lb trailer in that type of condition.
I’d get a Carli suspension or AEV on the RAM over a BDS
i like the gmc but prices are insane
Yeah I will take the RAM
Just bought the 2024 GMC AT4 crew diesel loaded.. You get what you pay for and this truck is awesome. The cameras and the towing is the best! 32’ fifth wheel feels like nothing on the back!!
No complaints at all
Ram👍👍👍👍
That dodge would have better throttle control if it was regeared for them bigger tires.
That GMC is a beast. Great looking, powerful monster! My pick, easily.
The factory truck struggled less than the lifted truck 🤣🤣🤣
Trail hound??.. 🙄
Take some air out of the tires ride would greatly improve and traction.
That GMC is a beautiful truck. If I had it, I would never take it offroad. 😂
Could you slap a GoPro under the front for offroad stuff and watch it on your phone via the app if your vehicle doesn't have a front camera?
I like the GMC but as far as best factory HD off road truck it’s hard to beat power wagon factory front and rear lockers, solid axles, and winch…. I don’t think either of these could go anywhere near as many places stock for stock.
Huh? The power wagon is down on power big time & has 33” tires how you expect it to outperform this thing?!?
Ram and Ford hd trucks need a cab change, Ford same cab, since 1999
Afraid to do truck stuff with a truck 😂 change the name of the channel.
Love the context. I prefer the Tremor stock even though the GMC looks better..or like I have a F250 with a Carli 3" level and 37 12.5 20's.. Excellent articulation with the Carli springs and their shocks. Rides more like my GMC 1500.
Apples to oranges but the Ram is very impressive. The HD Ram Rebel would be a better comparison.
I don’t think they are that far apart. More like comparing apples to crabapples.
Compare it to the RAM AEV PROSPECTOR XL, apples to apples
The GMC appeared to do this trail both easier and smoother than the Ram. Not sure what the metal pinging noises were coming from the Ram but it didn't sound very reassuring. Very impressed with the AT4X HD overall, just wish it wasn't so dang expensive.
They should have both been AEV upgrades not just one. I would hope the extra money would make it go through the course easier.
There were more noises coming from the GMC, in fact Andre made the reference “Titanic noises” coming from the GMC. He also mentioned that the GMC was very tippy. Having solid axles on the RAM makes off roading much more reassuring. IFS on the GMC is more better on road manners. I felt that the RAM did leaps better overall off road.
@@MrNismopro I would rather have a slight body groan at full articulation than the Rams metal pinging noise that literally sounded like something was breaking every time it was on a bind. Never once did the GMC look like it was in any danger of tipping. Anyone that watches TFL knows that Andre is a bit dramatic.😏It's a given that solid axles are more at home in the rocks, but pretty much everyone else including SXS's and desert race trucks are using IFS for everything else. Despite having smaller tires and less lift the GMC still made smooth easy work of this course.
I just saw on AEV’s website they are still doing rams
Not with a factory warranty!
Great job guys keep it up 👍
Why not throw the Power Wagon & the F250 Tremor in the mix
I like the ram way better than the GMC
Both impressive rigs.
Why wouldn't you run the 3 factory trucks against each other?
The RAM looks and drives 10 years old in comparison. Damn GMC knocked the Sierra HD out of the park! 🔥
Take a power wagon through there😎
Diesel to diesel comparison.
The power wagon by ram has a front locker…that alone makes it better. I’m a gm fan and not having a front locker on the gm for the price is a downer for sure.
The AT4X for sure!!! What a truck!
2:13 The "six pack abs" bit is as funny as y'all have ever been!😂
Bring back the days of affordable working man’s off roaders.
Will never happen because people keeping buying these trucks (somehow)
I feel like the AEV Cummins would be a like for like comparison. As they’re both AEV built and you can buy both from a dealer.
Good to know some good components on a non AEV Silverado could obtain nearly the same result.
Can you put 37”s on the GMC, will they fit without rubbing?
Hey they forgot to air down their tires off road again.
You guys went with the wrong suspension system… BDS is trash. Thuren or Carli are the only two names I would use for a RAM HD. Carli probably has the better ride quality but Thuren owns it in the down travel numbers, most down travel of any RAM HD aftermarket suspension. I have a full Thuren build on my 19 Power Wagon, ride quality in the rocks is great and it takes a lot to get a wheel off the ground.
I just commented that the flex on the rams rear axle over the razor rocks looked pretty underwhelming. Im pretty sure my F150 with some cheap Bilstein 5100’s has more travel. And the front seems like it didnt have much uptravel as they didnt even seem to be able to get the 37” tires near the fenders. I wonder if it rides poorly because its on the bump stops a lot.
@@Jay-me7gw yes, because BDS doesn’t address the things that actually add flex/travel with their system. It’s simply a for looks lift package that maintains towing numbers but adds zero off road travel. In fact it’s actually detrimental to performance because it lifts the trucks center of gravity but adds no down travel to maintain stability
Carli suspension or nothing
should have compared it to an ave ram prospector xl package haha
Let us know how well they maneuver into the tight parking spaces at Walmart. That’s where every one of these will be seen.
Nothing like being a little bitter there dude!
lol truth
I drive mine to Walmart all the time. What’s wrong with that?
@@garysarratt1 the ole pavement princess. Especially with that price tag eh?
@@tommaybury I got it to tow, and that’s what it does. I also daily it, bc I can’t afford a different vehicle for every function. I understand your point, I’m just tired of people saying the same thing for every video.
4:48 multimatic started with the 2015 Chevy Camaro Z28. I believe that is the first vehicle consumer oriented vehicle that GM released. After that the prior gen Colorado ZR2 got it then the 6th gen Camaro ZL1 1LE. Then the new gen stuff that we have today are starting to get them now.
Correct.
@@is6566 almost. *2014.
2:19 did you just Yada Yada solid front axles??!!
La GMC Sierra HD AT4X es la camioneta ganadora esa es la que manda
Yall should have went with a Carli Suspension 3.25” Back Country Kit with Carli Eventure shocks.
No EVenture yet for Ram that i know of.
You guys need to air down in Rock crawling situations to make for a smoother ride and more grip
Agreed hundred percent
so they cut / pushed the tree down on razor rocks after it left a mark on the poor 4Runner in the one video a while back lol
I bought the AT4 in January’24 and I love it
Just bought the AT4 in March. I love it as well.
Hi, GAS or DIESEL for off-road? Diesel, more weight, but more torque.
Jeez, that Ram’s hood is taller than me.
Overpriced like crazy.
I'd rather get a Nissan Frontier Pro4x, beat the price down to 41 - 42k OTD at the dealership - and get it lifted for maybe 1,000$.
Just really don't need trucks that huge.
Ninety nine percent of the people who buy these trucks will never take them off road with the exception of a gravel driveway. They're total status mobiles. The price of these newer trucks is totally out of hand.
Options are a good thing. Atleast people who do go off road have the option. It's up to people how they use there truck. Oil fields logging woods etc are full of trucks like these. Game wardens wild land fireman use the cheaper versions not as fancy.
@Arthur…. No oil field, logging road worker, game warden, fireman would ever buy (afford) trucks like these. Ever. They get a work truck from RAM and add the Power Wagon Package and that’s it. Half price.
@is6566 Oil fields and pipelines are full of 100,000 dollar rigs you obviously don't work in the industry. You can make 100,000 in a few months of working which allows people to finance any truck they like. Might not be smart but it happens.
Great comparison, in the market Andre for that dream Overland build. Jeep guy here so I am spoiled off road but haul has limitations and I am too old for not bringing all the fun things that make life a bit more comfortable. Ram is #1 on my list, love the PW but the fuel consumption goes from bad to miserable with more weight. GMC with 37’s would make a difference. Are these diesel behemoths too heavy? What about GMC 1500 ATX4 AEV LM0 diesel with a few mods? When is RAM going to step it up to another level. Diesel gives you the range, weight is not your friend, gas easier to maintain for most….Hurricane in a PW package with enough bed capacity and 35’s in the works?
HD AT4X alone is 98k but yes i would choose this over a TRX for the capability. AT4X AEV would be a vacation cabin 😅😢
Both trucks look amazing and perform well on the track considering their size, but factory mods should not be a comp to consider since you can also get a Ram AEV Prospector on 37s from factory. It would be nice to compare a GMC HD AEV vs a RAM HD AEV to see how torque and original equipment compare under same articulation and flex components; just an idea for future videos.
Pretty sure you can get the Prospecter XL on 40s right from the dealer via AEV. Not exactly "factory" but factory supported and full warranty. Somebody will double check me on that I'm sure.
@@donhappel9566 Yes you can, I'm waiting for mine; a 23' 3500 Limited 6.7L Cummins HO Prospector XL on 40s.
@@RDS4x4 Certainly not a "bargain" truck, but very nice indeed.
Id like to see an aev ram vs that gmc. Actually compare apples to apples
GM trucks are too big and the turning radius sucks, like driving a bus . I recently left a broken Chevy 2021 2500 at the Ram dealership and rolled out in a Ram 2500 . 58k on my Chevy , I’ve had GM for 20 years , this Chevy was garbage , electrical problems,front end problems, brake problems and burning 2 quarts of oil in a 4000 mile oil change interval and according to GM that’s an acceptable amount of oil to be used . No more GM for me , if my new Ram turns out to be junk I’ll go to Ford .