Fun fact, before Jason worked for Team Durango he was working for hpi, and played a key role in the designing of the Savage. I wouldn't be surprised if they designed the Nero with the intention of surpassing the OG monster trucks of the early 2000s, the Savage and the Revo.
On my Savage I lowered the body a bit and put a foam block over the center handle thingy. It sits under the body and keeps everything stiff when it flips over. Great unboxing, I 100% agree with your wishlist, I know hpi is slowly making a return right now, so I hope they use the money they earned from the latest savage releases to improve and meet with the current industry standards.
@@AussieRCPlayground On my old flux hp, I used the nitro roll bar kink that went from the roll bar to the rear tower/body posts. Looked goofy... but at least give it more to land on.
I own hpi, Traxxas, arrma , I'm 45 years old and my favorite is my savage xl 5.9. I'm looking forward to a xl version updated. Nice video. I always have liked the savage line, you do not have to completely rebuild it to bash the $$$$ out of it. Minimal upgrades are needed
Mmmm many years ago owning an HPI Savage was a goal. But as time has passed so many others have stepped up and the quality and quantity has increased a huge amount. $1,100 gets you a lot of RTR RC. The price was justified back in the day. Today not convinced this is money well spent. I'd have to find someone with one and have a drive before I could take the faith in the brand alone. Wish HPI well and hope they remain but it's a new world of RC and HPI need to address this.
That enclosed chassis is fantastic, love the design of it. Not to fussed about shell strength as I can pick up an after market one, they never last long bashing them anyway. Great work HPI
Shoe-goo and a layer or two of that synthetic woven drywall tape, maybe finish it off with some rubberized undercoating/flex seal if you desire. Give it a try it makes any body unbreakable :)
I have a V1 i bought about 2-3 months ago and it’s still in box, i haven’t ran it yet. I paid $510… wow they want $1100.00 for this truck, shit man you can keep that truck for that price, fffffffuck 🤩 HPI 🤦♂️
To be perfectly honest, aluminum threaded body shock adjusters tend to lock up while bashing because dirt gets into the threads. The preload clips are certainly dated and look cheap, but alteast they can be removed and added quickly when the truck is all dirty. Great review Vas!
I was looking forward to this release. But I am a little disappointed. New ESC placement / battery boxes are a good design change, also use of hex screws. But still using a slipper clutch! No center diff! I still see very much the same Savage Flux with the same maintenance and accessibility problems as before. I was hoping for more. It would be interesting to see if there are any changes to the gear box? If they are still using that cheese metal that grinds in metal dust. Looking forward to seeing more long term usage reviews. But at this point my money might have to be spent on an Outcast.
I bought the last Savage XL that came out, and when i saw this new savage release i thought, fuck, i should have waited... but now seeing this review and others, the only relevant thing hpi changed was the 17 nuts on the wheels...hpi basically don't give a fuck about users feedback.
Savage is a legendary monster truck in hpi and that is why is my favorite rc truck! I don't need the flux because I own the older nitro version but I might get the wheels and tires for it because I like the way how they look.
Hmm, disagree about the ESC. This looks like a Max8 system, wouldn't call that "budget". The shocks may not look that good, but as long as they work, it's really a superficial thing when you think about it. I do agree on the center diff, though, would've been nice to have one instead of the slipper (missed that in my wishlist).
@@AussieRCPlayground according to hpi's own website this is the elh6s esc. If you look that up you'll see that it is an 8bl150 not the Max 8. They just upgraded the switch
Ah, right. Roger that. I couldn't really see the ESC in the chassis, so I just went by the motor which looks to be identical to the Max8 motor, so naturally I thought the ESC was too. Thanks for clearing that up. 👍🙂
Great overview Vas. I love the Savage line of truck. I had a original release Savage X back a long time ago early 00’s. It was my first nitro. I’ve had the Savage xs flux (mini savage) and a Savage XL since. I sold them. But I want this truck. I hope it does it well. It looks well built like any savage. And the 17mm hex and hex hardware is a welcome additions. Can’t wait to get my hands on one. And can’t wait to see you run this one
I must admit, that truck is looking very sexy. I hope it runs as good as it looks. I also would want to see those upgrades in your wish list you mentioned. Plastic shocks, in 2021? Not good, but I'll cut hpi some slack since they are attempting to make a comeback. Great unboxing, Vas.
Say it ain’t so Vas!!! This is incredible to see you working with HPI. They must have made a good product because anyone sending you a product knows your going to speak the truth. 👏
Thank you Glenn. Yes, they are supporting the channel and I am truly honored and grateful. 🙂 It's so good to see them making a comeback and if this truck is anything to go by, I think we're in for some amazing products in the future.
Happy hpi is back, raced the savage in late 90's to 2004, have 8. All nitro but converting 2 savage 25 to electric. Its dressed up old stock chassis, best thing to do is go back too dual shock setup. Very tunable for racing and much better for bashing. Price ehh little high.
I'm happy to see all of the improvements to the savage. I agree that the shocks should be upgraded to today's 8th scale standards. The battery trays are Awesome! I'm certainvthat this truck will be fantastic. I still have my Savage Xl Flux with has a center diff among ton of other upgrades. Its a keeper for certain. Excellent unboxing. Very informative. Thank you kindly.
I agree completely with this video, and Ive come up with a good conclusion for it: Not worth it. When I first saw the teaser that HPI was finally coming back I was super stoked, and then I saw the price and just kinda stopped and went "what the hell?" Maybe they are trying to make some cash off the nostalgia from the old days when the original Savage Flux HP was the king of the bashing community over a decade ago. Maybe they don't have a choice. HPI hasn't changed ownership so many times for just no reason, they have been bankrupt more times than I can count and this might be one final desperate attempt to get back into the game. Its honestly tragic to watch such a great company go through such hardship but until the price comes down a significant amount, the answer is no, I wouldn't buy it. If it ever matches the price of the Traxxas E-Revo 2.0 ($650USD), then maybe, and if it matches the price of the Arrma Kraton 6S V5 ($600USD), then I would probably pick one up, but at about the $770 it is now, not a chance, especially with plastic shocks, just an absolute ripoff. HPI thinks they can just suck money out of nostalgic fanboys and they are going to find out the hard way that such a strategy is NOT how you do good business.
Long time savage fanboy here haha, believe me the bumper design couldn’t do it’s job better, well done overview 👌 agree with the taller roll bar needed, I am just glad it does have one it does indeed help a little, with the savage xl flux which doesn’t have one the body flexes in on roof and causes it it split in the bottom, the shocks are pretty substantial but it’s the bore that bothers me all 1/8 vehicles comes with 16mm 4mm shaft this is only 14mm 3.5 shaft It will satisfy many but when you want to send it like you did your Mojave that’s the only thing holding it back is the shock shaft, I just switched to the lst shocks but Hpi needs an actual upgrade, hope you can show the potential of this thing, being a long time fanboy I’d say I’m more disappointed than most as it still doesn’t have the essentials like the center diff and aluminum rear hubs to remove the turnbuckle design but the potential is still there, I hope ya have fun with it 👍
Thank you for the comment. It's guys like you I really want to hear from, the ones that have had them, love them, or love to hate them and vice versa. Your feedback is gold and will give me some insight into these rigs, their strengths and weaknesses. I'm hoping to do my best to make this rig shine and show everyone that despite it's age, the Savage X can roll with the young bloods of today. 😎👍
Hoping you can help. I bought this exact RC truck early 2022 and out of the box it was amazing the first run inside of a few minutes. Then I noticed it slowed down drastically and I brought it in and smelled some bad burning smell. I haven't had a lot of time to deal with it or tinker on as I have had to move and bought a house so I packed it up after I had already cooresponded with customer service HobbyRec or something like that and they are in Utah. 10 months later and I have a little time and their customer service is pretty good and still honored the warranty return of the motor which was their initial best guest. Replaced the motor and truck is still slow - will max at approximately 10 mph. So I wrote them and now they sent me a new ESC (both motor and ESC exact same as stock set) So I thought for sure after getting a new ESC and a new motor this brand new never run (except for that initial run 10 months ago) would now be fixed. Nope it still only goes 10 mph. And I ran it for only a couple of min this time too. My battery set p is the recommended just as the stock ESC already has two deans that connect making the two 3S batteries the same as runnng one 6S with 5000 mAh. What else do you think the problem could be??? I will say if I put my nose up close the middle between the ESC and motor smells (somewhere where that black cover with 4 screws is that would be somewhat over the motor's pinion gear. Is that what is causing it not to pick up speed? Why is it overheated in that region and it has a burnt smell to it? Sorry I don't want to call that part anything here because I'm not sure what it's called. Thanks.
Sounds like your slipper clutch needs tightening. That's my best guess based on your description. Would love to help more, but without having the truck in my hands it'll be hard to say what it could be. Maybe you could upload a quick video and show me what it's doing and how it sounds? Sorry for the late reply, but let me know how you go.
Myself I was hoping for alot more revision on some of the savages issues, don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of the savage line up, I still have a savage 25 and and a 2017 savage flux xl, I would like to of seen the slipper clutch get ditched in favour of a centre diff and threaded shocks, even plastic ones would of been OK, but I do actually like the clips for their convenience, the issue you pointed out with the bumper supports has an easy work around by putting a zip tie around them to stop them spreading OR a proper fix is to replace them with bumper supports from a savage 21 or 25 (they actually ruined them in subsequent models?!? Go figure ). The true 17mm wheel hex setup out of the box, is something savage fans have been crying out for for years. As I said before I am a big fan of the savage and the issues this truck has are just design choice flaws that don't necessarily make it a bad truck its just it could of been that little bit better and elevated against its competition from arrma and traxxas on what it has under the hood, hpi could probably benefit from listening to feedback from owners and what they'd like to see, it's good but a missed opportunity in my opinion
20 years ago 😆 I have a OG savage and not much different than this. Not impressed hpi, which sucks because they was the best money could buy back then but we’ve came a long way and hpi failed to compete. I’d probably buy a damn big rock over this 😳
I’m sure HPI would love to implement all those improvements to their lineup that you listed and more. They are still in the process of rebuilding their brand after bankruptcy they’re probably not even turning a profit yet. Once local hobby shops in America and Europe start selling their products again they’ll be able to afford to put more money into there rtr lineups. For example my jail be racing cheetah stunt truggy and my Redcat MT both come rtr with aluminum chassis aluminum big bore threaded shocks aluminum shock towers. 3s lipos and Charger. I use a 9 yr old hpi tf20u original savage flux transmitter and receiver on 1 of my traxxas cars 😂 I’ve got faith Hpi will do better!
It's owned by an investment company I doubt they are hard up for money, they aren't interested with dealing with the smaller shops here in the UK at present hopefully that changes in the future
Great overview👍👍 That Wish List is spot on. The only thing I would add and not sure if that was addressed on this one was not only did it have a slipper clutch but it was locked too. One landing on throttle and the transmission gears were done. Can't wait to see you put this through it's paces and hear your after run thoughts on this.
On the talk of shocks, the shafts will let go before the plastic shock bodies do, and the only upgraded shafts are available on the HPI aluminium upgraded shock set, the titanium shafts aren’t available separately
I actually designed and make a 3D printed TPU brace for the front rear bumpers. I sell them on eBay. They really do help a lot too reinforce the bumper.
@@nathandevine636 unfortunately you can't put links in RUclips videos but if you go into the losi lmt group on facebook and search for bumper you'll find several posts by me regarding them. You can then contact me directly through there and I'll get you taken care of. Kenny
Great unboxing Vas. Appreciate the honesty. I’m in the market for one more big purchase and I’ve been strongly consider this or a Team Magic E6. Sadly getting a TM in Canada is brutal. So I was considering the new Savage. My issue is that the truck is very expensive compared to every other brand, and I don’t feel HPI is that relevant in RC anymore. I’m surprised that they are not pricing the Savage more competitive, instead of charging a premium for a truck that really doesn’t look like they made any improvements too.
Keep you a small set of needle nose pliers that are knurled on the tips to remove the body pins and reinstall them. I've been doing this very process ever since I entered R/C about 5 years ago. The pair I use I believe I picked up in Advance Auto Parts in a cheap tool bin they had for maybe $3 and they fit in any pocket without discomfort so body pins should never be criticized. Change them to your liking or do something like what I just suggested
It looks like a good truck. For whatever reason that body looks super fragile. The square edges and lack of support don't seem great. I'm guessing the body will split at the corners with some light bashing. Maybe they'll come out with a better body to fix this?
Hi Aussie RC! If for you is possible I would like to know the weight of this X Flux V2, I ask you this because on the internet I have not found anything Thank you for your availability and sorry for the disturb Have a good day!
Quick questions Vas… I ordered two of those Blackzon Slyders you had on the other channel. Could you cover upgrades going to brushless and optional parts for those? Maybe get one on this channel. Pretty sure it’s a tough truck after watching the Haiboxing videos and goes well with the HPI content lately. Cheap truck hoping it is good for the kids…
I don't own any type of rc vehicle; but hopefully real soon... I like the truck u hav here.. Also I like the HPI BULLET MT FLUX.. My thing is it wld b nice to hav sum headlights , taillights ,& fog lights... The black rims are cool but I think it wld b nice to hav custom rims ( orange center with black lips wld b AWESOME in my opinion & etc.etc. for other colors )
I guess with the lockdowns ending everywhere and you are no doubt busting to take this to the bmx track we will be keen to see how this 6S truck handles. Specifically compared to the Hyper MT plus II which has a centre diff unlike this Savage which has a slipper. Will this mean less front tyre ballooning/wear? We really are spoilt for choice with the Kyosho USA1 being solid axel and also available in electric / nitro. Very keen to hear your thoughts about each truck after you drive them all. And which one brings you the biggest smile. Ciao
Yeah, lockdowns ended a while ago now, but the issue is the weather not cooperating and making it hard to get running footage. Hopefully I'll be able to run them soon. 😎
great truck But the wheels and rims very very bad not like old one was beautiful in everything Even look it to the new one about his bumpers its same thing where is the lights that was coming on the front bumper like be4? well amazing video dude cheers.🍺
Most of your improvement you want can be done by mixing some of the nitro part like the bumpers nitro model on to this and there is a wheelie bar for the nitro model they also have the shocks available in aluminum body's how ever diagnosed it should of just used the nitro part but at the same time didn't think it was need on electric and tryed to cut costs you can build it to your specifications night influence hpi to do the same 👍👌✌️💯🏎️🍻🛠️
If the transmission is anything like the flux, you'll end up destroying the idler gear inside, and the slipper clutch is going to just glaze over and you'll have to lock it out
It is a rebranded hobbywing, unfortunately no more castle they are my favorite but hpi is definitely not being nostalgic that's for sure I definitely do understand they can't really use castle esc's considering how expensive they are getting but definitely good review!
Thanks for that. Good video. But please show more from the new things. Show the hex from the rims and the new hex hub and the explosion plan from the manual for a look at the inside. Special gearing and diff. That will be nice. I looked your driving video too. Can it not standing backflip? Like flux hd? I think hpi needs castle creations again. It would be nice to have this power team together again. There should be an monster x inside to show the other Brand s what a real basher is. But the badest thing is, again no wheeliebar out of the box. And i don’t like the new handle bar. With the x inside of it, you can’t carry the car with it. Don’t change the good things on the old car, change the bad things. But the battery boxes looks nice and stable. Hpi, please start to try to rule Offroad again! Make the savage and xl finally so perfect like the vorza. Renew the A720 Shocks with threat nutz for the springs and put it on it. Listen to the community! Make the savage xl without battery boxes like the Alza racing 2017 savage. But make it better than them, with the battery deeper for better lcg. And a version with and without center differential. We don’t need a new body for a car. Thats prolines job 😉😂. We need fixed problems. We wanne rule again. Make hpi great again 😉 Savage first 😊 and we want the trophy truggy back and Parts vor all the old Cars. Make us lucky hpi Please
Would love to add this to my Savage x that I converted over to an XL. Nitro of course with an LRP 32 in it. But, this is a disappointment knowing what they're capable of when building an RC. If the prices dropped a little bit, I'd MAYBE consider it. But, until then it's a pass.
I love what they've done here, but I'm a little disappointed at all the cut corners. Yes you can mod it if your going to buy it but hmmm. I have always thought that you can judge the overall quality of an rc by the quality of the shocks......
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For the price point on this truck you should see a center diff not a slipper and threaded shocks not spring spacers. HPI pretty much took there old Savage flux and tossed it in this one. For the money you’ll spend on this there are better options. That said I’m not dumping on HPI I’ve owned a few I’m just saying they need to step up their game a little bit.
We need to remember that not long ago the very existence of HPI was under question and the fact that not only are they still here, but they are updating their rigs is amazing. Yes, we can cretic them on what they're doing, but I feel we also need to apply a certain degree of leniency when doing so. I know this truck doesn't tick every box of upgrades and changes we would've liked to have seen, but it's very much a step in the right direction and that should be acknowledged. 🙂
@@AussieRCPlayground yeah but on the other hand I can get on them a bit for the simple fact that they built some really nice 5th scale cars. The effort and design they put into them was incredible. It’s almost like they are lazy as of right now and putting out their older vehicles with just a little fresher look just to get back in the game. If they really want to make that comeback splash you push that envelope and rerelease your older stuff but with stuff you see rtr’s coming with these days like center diffs and threaded aluminum shocks especially for the price they are asking that’s all I’m saying. There are better options out there right now for that kind of money with the options I mentioned. Like I said I’m not crapping on HPI I bought the HPI Baja 5T when it first came out and wish I still had it.
I get what you're saying and I totally respect it, but I also know these things can take time and money, so I feel we need to be a little patient. But even so, I certainly hope that they keep pushing and updating, and hope we don't have to wait several years to get another update. I really want this "refresh" to be the first of many. 😏
Want anything like it. Bang goods got the clone to it ... if you look at bang goods. Also exceed mad beast 1/8 scale is another clone truck to hpi. I have the exceed mad beast the older savage clone.. seems tough.. except the exceed rear/ front drivetrain is lil weaker than the savage..
I have a 3D printer, but I very much doubt a 3D printed wheelie bar would last more than a pack. One good hit and it'll shatter into a million pieces. LoL. I think the roof skids and inner roll cage would probably work, but I have zero faith in the wheelie bar lasting more than 5min.
@@AussieRCPlayground yes that's very true but I would 3D print the wheelie bar and modify it a few times to get it perfect and then I would make it out of aluminium or steel on the CNC machining centre. That's the best part of the 3D printer you can make stuff relatively quick and cheaply to get it right before making it out of metal.
When hpi teased this truck I was super excited for it. Then I saw how much it was and got a little less excited. Now that it’s out it’s kind of sad how expensive it is versus how much of the truck didn’t change versus the older ones. I’d still like one but I’m not sure I can justify the price. Considering it as a stunt truck and what it’s closest competitor costs. I really want hpi to survive. But the pricing seems a little steep for some of that older tech
Sadly HPI just doesn't have the resources or money to do a proper redesign. Same thin shock shafts that bend, same crappy bumpers, and that horrible rear toe-in link that always would break.
Bumpers are different, but the supports are the same. Haven't broken anything on it yet or bent the shock shafts. Also, HPI are coming back from the dead, so to be so negative about this truck just shows to me you don't even want them back. I, on the other hand, do want them back and want to give them a chance and time to rebuild. Not having a perfect truck outta the gate is nothing to worry about at the moment, so I'm happy with these changes even though I would've liked to see more. So hopefully in the next version we will some more revisions on the Savage. 🙂
769 US dollars no way in hell!!!! Looks way cheap plastic almost everything including shocks no way!!! HPI has been out of the hame for a long time they need to step back and look to see what’s in the market and really try to get in where they fit in. Not trying to be negative but that price for that just really has no place in today’s market. This looks more like something that would come from Banggood……….
Slipper clutch??? That’s an easy pass for me. The shocks don’t even look like they need to be anywhere near an 1/8 MT.. maybe the running video will change my mind..
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thanks Vas , i do love a relaxing Sunday morning unboxing video , very informative and easy listening
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it. 😎👍
Fun fact, before Jason worked for Team Durango he was working for hpi, and played a key role in the designing of the Savage. I wouldn't be surprised if they designed the Nero with the intention of surpassing the OG monster trucks of the early 2000s, the Savage and the Revo.
Yeah, haha, very true. I remember that from when I did the interview with him back in 2019. 😎👍
Most the old UK Hpi staff now work for Arrma, which is probably why some of the features HPI started can be seen in Arrma vehicles
@@Luke-en2tk which features ? I have an arrma big rock and it`s absolute flat car compared to the hpi savage.... thought i was getting an actual MT
On my Savage I lowered the body a bit and put a foam block over the center handle thingy. It sits under the body and keeps everything stiff when it flips over.
Great unboxing, I 100% agree with your wishlist, I know hpi is slowly making a return right now, so I hope they use the money they earned from the latest savage releases to improve and meet with the current industry standards.
Thank you so much. I was thinking the foam block idea as well, just gotta find some now. Cheers for the comment. 😎👍
@@AussieRCPlayground On my old flux hp, I used the nitro roll bar kink that went from the roll bar to the rear tower/body posts. Looked goofy... but at least give it more to land on.
Nice unboxing, looks like the truck has some potential, looking forward to seeing it in action!
Great Review Vas…I was waiting excited for this video!! That’s a really nice truck, I’m thinking about getting the Savage X or a V5 Kraton!!
Great job 👍. I can wait to see it run.👏👍
I own hpi, Traxxas, arrma , I'm 45 years old and my favorite is my savage xl 5.9. I'm looking forward to a xl version updated. Nice video. I always have liked the savage line, you do not have to completely rebuild it to bash the $$$$ out of it. Minimal upgrades are needed
Mmmm many years ago owning an HPI Savage was a goal. But as time has passed so many others have stepped up and the quality and quantity has increased a huge amount. $1,100 gets you a lot of RTR RC. The price was justified back in the day. Today not convinced this is money well spent. I'd have to find someone with one and have a drive before I could take the faith in the brand alone. Wish HPI well and hope they remain but it's a new world of RC and HPI need to address this.
That enclosed chassis is fantastic, love the design of it. Not to fussed about shell strength as I can pick up an after market one, they never last long bashing them anyway. Great work HPI
Shoe-goo and a layer or two of that synthetic woven drywall tape, maybe finish it off with some rubberized undercoating/flex seal if you desire. Give it a try it makes any body unbreakable :)
I have a V1 i bought about 2-3 months ago and it’s still in box, i haven’t ran it yet. I paid $510… wow they want $1100.00 for this truck, shit man you can keep that truck for that price, fffffffuck 🤩 HPI 🤦♂️
Aluminium shocks are probably an option part ☺️
To be perfectly honest, aluminum threaded body shock adjusters tend to lock up while bashing because dirt gets into the threads. The preload clips are certainly dated and look cheap, but alteast they can be removed and added quickly when the truck is all dirty.
Great review Vas!
I was looking forward to this release. But I am a little disappointed. New ESC placement / battery boxes are a good design change, also use of hex screws. But still using a slipper clutch! No center diff! I still see very much the same Savage Flux with the same maintenance and accessibility problems as before. I was hoping for more. It would be interesting to see if there are any changes to the gear box? If they are still using that cheese metal that grinds in metal dust. Looking forward to seeing more long term usage reviews. But at this point my money might have to be spent on an Outcast.
I bought the last Savage XL that came out, and when i saw this new savage release i thought, fuck, i should have waited... but now seeing this review and others, the only relevant thing hpi changed was the 17 nuts on the wheels...hpi basically don't give a fuck about users feedback.
@@mvtepixels it's under new ownership now... lets see how they do over the next couple years before busting their balls.
Center diff is option part 👌 and locked diff keeps the newbie user happy if you can't tune with diff oil.
And what about the extremely leaking diffs and the smaller bearing 8/10/5mm on one side of the diffs!! It really holds the trucks potential down
Long term use hahaha. Bought mine in feb and I think I’m On my 4th spur. Got a long list of issues…..POS
Savage is a legendary monster truck in hpi and that is why is my favorite rc truck! I don't need the flux because I own the older nitro version but I might get the wheels and tires for it because I like the way how they look.
Very cool but i just cant get over the price for what it offers. $765 for plastic shocks, no center diff, budget esc, very old remote design, etc
Hmm, disagree about the ESC. This looks like a Max8 system, wouldn't call that "budget". The shocks may not look that good, but as long as they work, it's really a superficial thing when you think about it. I do agree on the center diff, though, would've been nice to have one instead of the slipper (missed that in my wishlist).
@@AussieRCPlayground according to hpi's own website this is the elh6s esc. If you look that up you'll see that it is an 8bl150 not the Max 8. They just upgraded the switch
Ah, right. Roger that. I couldn't really see the ESC in the chassis, so I just went by the motor which looks to be identical to the Max8 motor, so naturally I thought the ESC was too. Thanks for clearing that up. 👍🙂
Cool to see a new Savage. I hope HPI builds itself back up.
Nice unboxing, we tested and for us it is a good fun truck for bashing. Good job!
Thank you so much for stopping by. Happy bashing. 😁👍
It looks like the shock travel is long and I like the shock spacers ,it's definitely something I'd consider. Thanks Vas. Dom from Bathurst
Esc isnt a max8. Its a rebadged wp8bl150 with an upgraded switch. It's not a bad ESC but definitely a step down from the max 8
Great overview Vas. I love the Savage line of truck. I had a original release Savage X back a long time ago early 00’s. It was my first nitro. I’ve had the Savage xs flux (mini savage) and a Savage XL since. I sold them. But I want this truck. I hope it does it well. It looks well built like any savage. And the 17mm hex and hex hardware is a welcome additions. Can’t wait to get my hands on one. And can’t wait to see you run this one
Vas, its a miracle and a plus for you, finally, an rtr without the sliding switch
How cool to see a reboot of a classic rc. I wonder how the tvp holds up to a flat chassis.
I must admit, that truck is looking very sexy. I hope it runs as good as it looks. I also would want to see those upgrades in your wish list you mentioned. Plastic shocks, in 2021? Not good, but I'll cut hpi some slack since they are attempting to make a comeback. Great unboxing, Vas.
Say it ain’t so Vas!!! This is incredible to see you working with HPI. They must have made a good product because anyone sending you a product knows your going to speak the truth. 👏
Thank you Glenn. Yes, they are supporting the channel and I am truly honored and grateful. 🙂 It's so good to see them making a comeback and if this truck is anything to go by, I think we're in for some amazing products in the future.
They haven’t made a good product. It’s a piece of crap. How do you feel about it now Vas?
Happy hpi is back, raced the savage in late 90's to 2004, have 8. All nitro but converting 2 savage 25 to electric. Its dressed up old stock chassis, best thing to do is go back too dual shock setup. Very tunable for racing and much better for bashing. Price ehh little high.
Aluminum shocks and a center diff would be a good start. Plus what you mentioned bud 👍
I'm happy to see all of the improvements to the savage. I agree that the shocks should be upgraded to today's 8th scale standards. The battery trays are Awesome! I'm certainvthat this truck will be fantastic. I still have my Savage Xl Flux with has a center diff among ton of other upgrades. Its a keeper for certain. Excellent unboxing. Very informative. Thank you kindly.
Thank you so much, glad you like the video. 😎🤜🤛
Savage is a old G
. i. M glad i bought mine way back savage x. 4.6. I convert to electric. With max5 2200kv. Shes a beast.
I put the Max 8 g2 in mine ...well almost ... having issues mounting esc cause it has the sensor wire
I agree completely with this video, and Ive come up with a good conclusion for it: Not worth it. When I first saw the teaser that HPI was finally coming back I was super stoked, and then I saw the price and just kinda stopped and went "what the hell?" Maybe they are trying to make some cash off the nostalgia from the old days when the original Savage Flux HP was the king of the bashing community over a decade ago. Maybe they don't have a choice. HPI hasn't changed ownership so many times for just no reason, they have been bankrupt more times than I can count and this might be one final desperate attempt to get back into the game. Its honestly tragic to watch such a great company go through such hardship but until the price comes down a significant amount, the answer is no, I wouldn't buy it. If it ever matches the price of the Traxxas E-Revo 2.0 ($650USD), then maybe, and if it matches the price of the Arrma Kraton 6S V5 ($600USD), then I would probably pick one up, but at about the $770 it is now, not a chance, especially with plastic shocks, just an absolute ripoff. HPI thinks they can just suck money out of nostalgic fanboys and they are going to find out the hard way that such a strategy is NOT how you do good business.
Long time savage fanboy here haha, believe me the bumper design couldn’t do it’s job better, well done overview 👌 agree with the taller roll bar needed, I am just glad it does have one it does indeed help a little, with the savage xl flux which doesn’t have one the body flexes in on roof and causes it it split in the bottom, the shocks are pretty substantial but it’s the bore that bothers me all 1/8 vehicles comes with 16mm 4mm shaft this is only 14mm 3.5 shaft
It will satisfy many but when you want to send it like you did your Mojave that’s the only thing holding it back is the shock shaft, I just switched to the lst shocks but Hpi needs an actual upgrade, hope you can show the potential of this thing, being a long time fanboy I’d say I’m more disappointed than most as it still doesn’t have the essentials like the center diff and aluminum rear hubs to remove the turnbuckle design but the potential is still there, I hope ya have fun with it 👍
Thank you for the comment. It's guys like you I really want to hear from, the ones that have had them, love them, or love to hate them and vice versa. Your feedback is gold and will give me some insight into these rigs, their strengths and weaknesses. I'm hoping to do my best to make this rig shine and show everyone that despite it's age, the Savage X can roll with the young bloods of today. 😎👍
Hoping you can help. I bought this exact RC truck early 2022 and out of the box it was amazing the first run inside of a few minutes. Then I noticed it slowed down drastically and I brought it in and smelled some bad burning smell. I haven't had a lot of time to deal with it or tinker on as I have had to move and bought a house so I packed it up after I had already cooresponded with customer service HobbyRec or something like that and they are in Utah. 10 months later and I have a little time and their customer service is pretty good and still honored the warranty return of the motor which was their initial best guest. Replaced the motor and truck is still slow - will max at approximately 10 mph. So I wrote them and now they sent me a new ESC (both motor and ESC exact same as stock set) So I thought for sure after getting a new ESC and a new motor this brand new never run (except for that initial run 10 months ago) would now be fixed. Nope it still only goes 10 mph. And I ran it for only a couple of min this time too. My battery set p is the recommended just as the stock ESC already has two deans that connect making the two 3S batteries the same as runnng one 6S with 5000 mAh. What else do you think the problem could be??? I will say if I put my nose up close the middle between the ESC and motor smells (somewhere where that black cover with 4 screws is that would be somewhat over the motor's pinion gear. Is that what is causing it not to pick up speed? Why is it overheated in that region and it has a burnt smell to it? Sorry I don't want to call that part anything here because I'm not sure what it's called. Thanks.
Sounds like your slipper clutch needs tightening. That's my best guess based on your description. Would love to help more, but without having the truck in my hands it'll be hard to say what it could be. Maybe you could upload a quick video and show me what it's doing and how it sounds?
Sorry for the late reply, but let me know how you go.
Looks alright thanks for the review 👍
Good assessment. Has your buddy ran the Kyosho nitro truck yet?
No, he hasn't yet, but I'm hoping to be there when he does. 🙂
Good morning I was wondering where can I buy are find parts for the hpi blizze
Myself I was hoping for alot more revision on some of the savages issues, don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of the savage line up, I still have a savage 25 and and a 2017 savage flux xl, I would like to of seen the slipper clutch get ditched in favour of a centre diff and threaded shocks, even plastic ones would of been OK, but I do actually like the clips for their convenience, the issue you pointed out with the bumper supports has an easy work around by putting a zip tie around them to stop them spreading OR a proper fix is to replace them with bumper supports from a savage 21 or 25 (they actually ruined them in subsequent models?!? Go figure ). The true 17mm wheel hex setup out of the box, is something savage fans have been crying out for for years. As I said before I am a big fan of the savage and the issues this truck has are just design choice flaws that don't necessarily make it a bad truck its just it could of been that little bit better and elevated against its competition from arrma and traxxas on what it has under the hood, hpi could probably benefit from listening to feedback from owners and what they'd like to see, it's good but a missed opportunity in my opinion
Nice review as usual
Thank you. 🤜🤛
Amazing unboxing video 👍 i really wish hpi could introduce a 1/5th scale version of the savage flux
I think its max 8 cause 8bl using a sliding switch/3 wires.
And rear squat are good for traction
Imho.
This video will do really well Savage is an Ace Truck
Hope so. Cheers for watching. 😎👍
20 years ago 😆 I have a OG savage and not much different than this. Not impressed hpi, which sucks because they was the best money could buy back then but we’ve came a long way and hpi failed to compete. I’d probably buy a damn big rock over this 😳
I’m sure HPI would love to implement all those improvements to their lineup that you listed and more. They are still in the process of rebuilding their brand after bankruptcy they’re probably not even turning a profit yet. Once local hobby shops in America and Europe start selling their products again they’ll be able to afford to put more money into there rtr lineups. For example my jail be racing cheetah stunt truggy and my Redcat MT both come rtr with aluminum chassis aluminum big bore threaded shocks aluminum shock towers. 3s lipos and Charger. I use a 9 yr old hpi tf20u original savage flux transmitter and receiver on 1 of my traxxas cars 😂 I’ve got faith Hpi will do better!
It's owned by an investment company I doubt they are hard up for money, they aren't interested with dealing with the smaller shops here in the UK at present hopefully that changes in the future
Great overview👍👍 That Wish List is spot on. The only thing I would add and not sure if that was addressed on this one was not only did it have a slipper clutch but it was locked too. One landing on throttle and the transmission gears were done. Can't wait to see you put this through it's paces and hear your after run thoughts on this.
Awesome been waiting for this moment thanks Vas!
You're welcome, thank you for watching. 😎👍
What colour is dotted on those springs? they look way softer than both of my older Savages do, wonder if they changed out the spring rates
On the talk of shocks, the shafts will let go before the plastic shock bodies do, and the only upgraded shafts are available on the HPI aluminium upgraded shock set, the titanium shafts aren’t available separately
I actually designed and make a 3D printed TPU brace for the front rear bumpers. I sell them on eBay. They really do help a lot too reinforce the bumper.
link?
@@nathandevine636 unfortunately you can't put links in RUclips videos but if you go into the losi lmt group on facebook and search for bumper you'll find several posts by me regarding them. You can then contact me directly through there and I'll get you taken care of.
Kenny
Great unboxing Vas. Appreciate the honesty.
I’m in the market for one more big purchase and I’ve been strongly consider this or a Team Magic E6. Sadly getting a TM in Canada is brutal. So I was considering the new Savage. My issue is that the truck is very expensive compared to every other brand, and I don’t feel HPI is that relevant in RC anymore. I’m surprised that they are not pricing the Savage more competitive, instead of charging a premium for a truck that really doesn’t look like they made any improvements too.
Keep you a small set of needle nose pliers that are knurled on the tips to remove the body pins and reinstall them. I've been doing this very process ever since I entered R/C about 5 years ago. The pair I use I believe I picked up in Advance Auto Parts in a cheap tool bin they had for maybe $3 and they fit in any pocket without discomfort so body pins should never be criticized. Change them to your liking or do something like what I just suggested
Any aftermarket body ideas?
It looks like a good truck. For whatever reason that body looks super fragile. The square edges and lack of support don't seem great. I'm guessing the body will split at the corners with some light bashing. Maybe they'll come out with a better body to fix this?
Would think they would have done something better with the roll bar... that's going to punch right through the body.
My thoughts, also. 👍
Wasn’t the Schumacher rascal sold as a stunt truck back in the late 80’s early 90’s
Possibly, but it was before my time in the hobby, so I don't know much about it. You could be right, though...
Your videos have become more professional. Great work Vas!
You mean they weren't before?! 😳😆
Dated or Classic depending on your POV.
I've still got my savage flux HP and my savage 4.6😎
1/5 Baja all metal shocks work good on here
Hi Aussie RC!
If for you is possible I would like to know the weight of this X Flux V2, I ask you this because on the internet I have not found anything
Thank you for your availability and sorry for the disturb
Have a good day!
Quick questions Vas… I ordered two of those Blackzon Slyders you had on the other channel. Could you cover upgrades going to brushless and optional parts for those? Maybe get one on this channel. Pretty sure it’s a tough truck after watching the Haiboxing videos and goes well with the HPI content lately. Cheap truck hoping it is good for the kids…
I don't own any type of rc vehicle; but hopefully real soon... I like the truck u hav here.. Also I like the HPI BULLET MT FLUX.. My thing is it wld b nice to hav sum headlights , taillights ,& fog lights... The black rims are cool but I think it wld b nice to hav custom rims ( orange center with black lips wld b AWESOME in my opinion & etc.etc. for other colors )
Just wish they made a 1/5 kit version of this that supports some big block motors and shit! :)
Fantastic monster can you give me a link where is possibile buy?thanks a lot and compliment, nice video
Are we seeing the return of hpi here?!
I guess with the lockdowns ending everywhere and you are no doubt busting to take this to the bmx track we will be keen to see how this 6S truck handles. Specifically compared to the Hyper MT plus II which has a centre diff unlike this Savage which has a slipper.
Will this mean less front tyre ballooning/wear?
We really are spoilt for choice with the Kyosho USA1 being solid axel and also available in electric / nitro.
Very keen to hear your thoughts about each truck after you drive them all. And which one brings you the biggest smile. Ciao
Yeah, lockdowns ended a while ago now, but the issue is the weather not cooperating and making it hard to get running footage. Hopefully I'll be able to run them soon. 😎
Different and new look for the savage, just wondering how well those tires will hook up. Other than that me likeeee
Mini-pin tires hook better than badlands and backflips in my experience
great truck But the wheels and rims very very bad not like old one was beautiful in everything Even look it to the new one about his bumpers its same thing where is the lights that was coming on the front bumper like be4?
well amazing video dude cheers.🍺
Most of your improvement you want can be done by mixing some of the nitro part like the bumpers nitro model on to this and there is a wheelie bar for the nitro model they also have the shocks available in aluminum body's how ever diagnosed it should of just used the nitro part but at the same time didn't think it was need on electric and tryed to cut costs you can build it to your specifications night influence hpi to do the same 👍👌✌️💯🏎️🍻🛠️
If the transmission is anything like the flux, you'll end up destroying the idler gear inside, and the slipper clutch is going to just glaze over and you'll have to lock it out
It is a rebranded hobbywing, unfortunately no more castle they are my favorite but hpi is definitely not being nostalgic that's for sure I definitely do understand they can't really use castle esc's considering how expensive they are getting but definitely good review!
They changed from Castle a long time ago, Castle are great as long as they don't go up in flames
Thanks for that. Good video.
But please show more from the new things. Show the hex from the rims and the new hex hub and the explosion plan from the manual for a look at the inside. Special gearing and diff. That will be nice.
I looked your driving video too.
Can it not standing backflip? Like flux hd?
I think hpi needs castle creations again. It would be nice to have this power team together again. There should be an monster x inside to show the other Brand s what a real basher is.
But the badest thing is, again no wheeliebar out of the box.
And i don’t like the new handle bar. With the x inside of it, you can’t carry the car with it. Don’t change the good things on the old car, change the bad things.
But the battery boxes looks nice and stable.
Hpi, please start to try to rule Offroad again! Make the savage and xl finally so perfect like the vorza.
Renew the A720 Shocks with threat nutz for the springs and put it on it. Listen to the community! Make the savage xl without battery boxes like the Alza racing 2017 savage. But make it better than them, with the battery deeper for better lcg. And a version with and without center differential.
We don’t need a new body for a car.
Thats prolines job 😉😂.
We need fixed problems. We wanne rule again. Make hpi great again 😉 Savage first 😊 and we want the trophy truggy back and Parts vor all the old Cars.
Make us lucky hpi
Please
Just by looking at those shocks I think they're gonna bend
Would love to add this to my Savage x that I converted over to an XL. Nitro of course with an LRP 32 in it. But, this is a disappointment knowing what they're capable of when building an RC. If the prices dropped a little bit, I'd MAYBE consider it. But, until then it's a pass.
It's a nice refresh from HPI. However, a slipper clutch on a 6s vehicle in 2021.... Come on! 🤣
#daretobedifferent 😉
Oh so the competition is back for traxxas vs hpi RPm parts eating contest. Hopefully it wont have any crazy weak points
It’s a shame they didn’t put a centre diff in it. Looks really nice tho
Beautiful and original, I'm so glad they're still in the game and bringing out quality products that'll keep every other company on their toes.
Very much looking forward to what HPI do next. If this truck is anything to go by, I think we're gonna be spoiled. 😁
Are you a traxxas fan boy because all I see is traxxas cars in your channel, you should review Arrmas, hpis, redcat, tekno and team magic as well 😳😉
😁👍
I love what they've done here, but I'm a little disappointed at all the cut corners. Yes you can mod it if your going to buy it but hmmm.
I have always thought that you can judge the overall quality of an rc by the quality of the shocks......
Ez run max 8 nothing knew there
im the bloke that spoke to you on the phone and said i feel like im speaking to a celebrity and my hart is racing..... anyway..... i got 17 3d printers in my work shop. if you need me to make anything for you i can model it up and 3d print it for you.... let me know
For the price point on this truck you should see a center diff not a slipper and threaded shocks not spring spacers. HPI pretty much took there old Savage flux and tossed it in this one. For the money you’ll spend on this there are better options. That said I’m not dumping on HPI I’ve owned a few I’m just saying they need to step up their game a little bit.
We need to remember that not long ago the very existence of HPI was under question and the fact that not only are they still here, but they are updating their rigs is amazing. Yes, we can cretic them on what they're doing, but I feel we also need to apply a certain degree of leniency when doing so. I know this truck doesn't tick every box of upgrades and changes we would've liked to have seen, but it's very much a step in the right direction and that should be acknowledged. 🙂
@@AussieRCPlayground yeah but on the other hand I can get on them a bit for the simple fact that they built some really nice 5th scale cars. The effort and design they put into them was incredible. It’s almost like they are lazy as of right now and putting out their older vehicles with just a little fresher look just to get back in the game. If they really want to make that comeback splash you push that envelope and rerelease your older stuff but with stuff you see rtr’s coming with these days like center diffs and threaded aluminum shocks especially for the price they are asking that’s all I’m saying. There are better options out there right now for that kind of money with the options I mentioned. Like I said I’m not crapping on HPI I bought the HPI Baja 5T when it first came out and wish I still had it.
I get what you're saying and I totally respect it, but I also know these things can take time and money, so I feel we need to be a little patient. But even so, I certainly hope that they keep pushing and updating, and hope we don't have to wait several years to get another update. I really want this "refresh" to be the first of many. 😏
Nice review but @ $770 US cost Ouch
Want anything like it. Bang goods got the clone to it ... if you look at bang goods. Also exceed mad beast 1/8 scale is another clone truck to hpi. I have the exceed mad beast the older savage clone.. seems tough.. except the exceed rear/ front drivetrain is lil weaker than the savage..
As a cheap little fix for the body clips.. the small zip ties attached to each clip giving a little pull tab with the zip ties..
I love the deans connectors😂 best connectors I’ve had luck with just my opinion I know everyone else likes different things
mate everyone has there own 3d printer now..... we just make all these wishlist stuff ourselves
I have a 3D printer, but I very much doubt a 3D printed wheelie bar would last more than a pack. One good hit and it'll shatter into a million pieces. LoL. I think the roof skids and inner roll cage would probably work, but I have zero faith in the wheelie bar lasting more than 5min.
@@AussieRCPlayground yes that's very true but I would 3D print the wheelie bar and modify it a few times to get it perfect and then I would make it out of aluminium or steel on the CNC machining centre. That's the best part of the 3D printer you can make stuff relatively quick and cheaply to get it right before making it out of metal.
When hpi teased this truck I was super excited for it. Then I saw how much it was and got a little less excited. Now that it’s out it’s kind of sad how expensive it is versus how much of the truck didn’t change versus the older ones. I’d still like one but I’m not sure I can justify the price. Considering it as a stunt truck and what it’s closest competitor costs. I really want hpi to survive. But the pricing seems a little steep for some of that older tech
I wanted this truck to be good sooo bad, but I'm just not that impressed for the price point.
Looks like everything is going to over heat with all that plastic blocking the air flow
Also we want lights if front and rear bumps at least.
Aww man. I was hoping for running vid🤦🏽♂️.
All going well, I should be able to run it this Tuesday. 😉
Have the nitro version. Me along with others are disappointed with many of the issues experienced. Stay away.
Hpi...long in the tooth🤟
Sadly HPI just doesn't have the resources or money to do a proper redesign. Same thin shock shafts that bend, same crappy bumpers, and that horrible rear toe-in link that always would break.
Bumpers are different, but the supports are the same. Haven't broken anything on it yet or bent the shock shafts.
Also, HPI are coming back from the dead, so to be so negative about this truck just shows to me you don't even want them back. I, on the other hand, do want them back and want to give them a chance and time to rebuild. Not having a perfect truck outta the gate is nothing to worry about at the moment, so I'm happy with these changes even though I would've liked to see more. So hopefully in the next version we will some more revisions on the Savage. 🙂
I thought HPI was out of business
Sorry not for me, it's the same old thing, lol
769 US dollars no way in hell!!!! Looks way cheap plastic almost everything including shocks no way!!! HPI has been out of the hame for a long time they need to step back and look to see what’s in the market and really try to get in where they fit in. Not trying to be negative but that price for that just really has no place in today’s market. This looks more like something that would come from Banggood……….
Slipper clutch??? That’s an easy pass for me. The shocks don’t even look like they need to be anywhere near an 1/8 MT.. maybe the running video will change my mind..
Looks like a cheap Arrma 🤔
They missed the mark, to much old tech for me for the money.
Looks terrible! Bad tyres , cheap body , old radio , no new tech made by an old outdated brand