Persona 4 Arena in 2022 - Is it Good?

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    Welcome to my Persona 4 Arena Review and Persona 4 Arena Ultimax Review! Persona 4 Arena and Persona 4 Arena Ultimax are some of the most popular Persona spinoffs games and in this Persona 4 Arena Analysis and Persona 4 Arena Ultimax Analysis, I'm going to be reviewing Persona 4 Arena (& Ultimax). There will be story spoilers in this Persona 4 Arena Review for Persona 3 and Persona 4 because I compare them to Persona 4 Arena and Persona 4 Arena Ultimax. Persona 4 Arena The Best Of Both Genres is just my own opinion on Persona 4 Arena. If you disagree with me, that's okay. This Persona 4 Arena analysis is a follow-up to my Persona 4 Analysis, so make sure you watch that as well. Persona 4 Arena The Best of Both Genres is the best video I've made.
    0:00 Intro
    2:34 Persona 4 Arena
    18:19 Persona 4 Arena Ultimax
    28:38 Conclusion
    30:10 Outro & Supporter Credits
    Ever since its initial conception, the core of the Persona series has been rooted in the foundation of turn-based combat. This is par for the course for this genre and the Persona games have always done their best to make these systems mechanically satisfying. However, it’s hard to imagine this style of game working in a real time setting without seeing some drastic overhauls. Which is why the Persona 4 arena series was so impressive to me. Both of these games, while taking liberties in some areas, managed to expertly translate the turn-based combat of the Persona games into a 1 on 1 fighting game. These games were a collaborative effort between Atlus and fighting game developer Arc System Works, who are primarily known for the Blazblue franchise which was used as the template for Arena’s core design. The first Persona 4 arena game was released back in 2012 with Ultimax following a year later. I’m mostly looking at the first arena game out of a formality since, to put it bluntly, Ultimax is mechanically superior while also offering Arena 1’s campaign as dlc. And since these games are so similar at their core, it would be best to just lump them together in one video. I also think it’s important to acknowledge the foundation set by the first arena game so we can get a better grasp as to what was changed and improved upon in Arena Ultimax.
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  • @NamsCompendium
    @NamsCompendium  2 года назад +61

    These videos take a lot of time and effort so if you want to support me and the channel you can do so by clicking this link here: www.patreon.com/NamsComp

    • @tomato5049
      @tomato5049 2 года назад

      Broke as fuck ☹️

    • @VITIN1201
      @VITIN1201 2 года назад

      The comment section did a better review than you

    • @tomato5049
      @tomato5049 2 года назад +1

      @@VITIN1201 average Hazbin Hotel enjoyer

    • @VITIN1201
      @VITIN1201 2 года назад +2

      @@tomato5049 average genshin impact player

  • @typemoriarty3898
    @typemoriarty3898 2 года назад +577

    19:55 "Alongside Tohru Adachi who's mere inclusion no doubt spoiled Persona 4 for someone" Yeah, me.

    • @Rilobster
      @Rilobster 2 года назад +74

      same here, but if this game didnt spoil it, im sure the persona community would've done it for people anyway

    • @Gordoniankid
      @Gordoniankid 2 года назад +53

      @@Rilobster My brother was in the middle of playing P4 when he saw the announcement of Adachi in Ultimax. I got spoiled by RUclips recommending me P4 videos months before I got to play the game because I watched P3 videos (I was waiting for P4 to be on the PS3 PSN store)

    • @exile1373
      @exile1373 2 года назад +38

      I got spoiled by Adachi in bbtag lol

    • @idk-fz5ew
      @idk-fz5ew 2 года назад +20

      @@exile1373 people got spoiled by right and got spoiled by looking left

    • @saxtonnova
      @saxtonnova 2 года назад +16

      I was playing persona 4 when that spoiled me :(

  • @hexenvexen
    @hexenvexen 2 года назад +477

    Sad to see no mention of Episode Adachi, probably had the best story out of the Arena games alongside Labrys' Route. I think the True Ending you get after meeting certain requirements in both Ultimax routes is worth mentioning as well, it makes Sho's character a tiny bit more interesting.

    • @Wolfedge75
      @Wolfedge75 2 года назад +57

      There IS a manga adaptation that does a good job at expanding on Sho's backstory, so check that out if you have the time.

    • @JNCGaming
      @JNCGaming 2 года назад +4

      Based NAYOA pfp

    • @vanessachowjiaying4423
      @vanessachowjiaying4423 2 года назад +37

      @@Wolfedge75 i read the manga version, and its much better in setting the linear path compared to the messy points of the game. After reading the manga and watching the neo generation mainlines and continuation stories, noticed that Aigis, Sho and Akechi kind of fall under the same trope, in terms of the secondary wild cards situations and traits.

    • @BlackKanye
      @BlackKanye 2 года назад +8

      @@vanessachowjiaying4423 WOuld I need to read the first arena manga? Do you know if it includes anything about Sho?

    • @joji197
      @joji197 2 года назад +12

      Episode adachi is very good

  • @kagekun1198
    @kagekun1198 2 года назад +198

    I feel the Arena story was best in the manga, where Yosuke became the protagonist of all people. It was amazing to see the best bro taking up the mantle when Yu had to drop out.

    • @jf4132
      @jf4132 Год назад +11

      Oh god, Yosuke was the protagonist in the manga version? Don’t tell me, was it written by Shuji Sogabe?

    • @Stephen-fi9mw
      @Stephen-fi9mw Год назад +2

      @@jf4132 nope, Aiyakyuu.

    • @jf4132
      @jf4132 Год назад +7

      @@Stephen-fi9mw oh thank god

    • @Santoryu90
      @Santoryu90 Год назад +1

      @@jf4132 What’s wrong with Shuji Sogabe and what’s that got to do with Yosuke?

    • @jf4132
      @jf4132 Год назад +17

      @@Santoryu90 Shuji Sogabe was the writer for the Persona 4 manga, and he makes it very clear that Yosuke is his favorite character. So much so that Yosuke is given a lot of focus in that manga. Hell, HE’S the one who beats Adachi instead of the protagonist.

  • @sparkytlg3732
    @sparkytlg3732 2 года назад +137

    No mention of Episode Adachi?
    That was the best part of Ultimax for me. Adachi gets genuine character development that makes him my 3rd favorite Persona character overall. And Adachi is just super entertaining. I love batshit crazy characters

  • @ThatBoyAqua
    @ThatBoyAqua 2 года назад +163

    Excited to see your thoughts on the dancing games. Another great video Nam!

  • @dearickangelonej.legaspi6686
    @dearickangelonej.legaspi6686 2 года назад +82

    I consider Labrys, Elizabeth, and Adachi's routes as the canon ones since they're the only ones that feel different and feels like the development sticks

    • @Eudaimonia7564
      @Eudaimonia7564 2 года назад +9

      There’s no true route I don’t think. All of them have canon elements.

  • @Rilobster
    @Rilobster 2 года назад +78

    ah yes, the game that brought me my favorite persona character. super excited for the PC port to introduce more people to Labrys!

  • @BagelDukes
    @BagelDukes 2 года назад +119

    I feel like the Persona 4 side is weighed down quite a bit, by the fact Adachi was a DLC character - since he has a bigger part to do with that side of the story and perhaps funnily enough a connection with Sho.

    • @Eis7
      @Eis7 2 года назад +7

      Dammit Adachi

    • @degenReflow
      @degenReflow 2 года назад +4

      Joker Adachi.

  • @phantomanchild9744
    @phantomanchild9744 2 года назад +35

    Pretty nice, but one thing you didn't mention is Adachi and his story. Goddamn its so good, really shows his development after P4, but that dosen't make him less of an ass then before, and that's why we love him. He's just plain fun in the story and he steals the spotlight every single time, especially in the end.

  • @legodawg2001
    @legodawg2001 2 года назад +67

    Couple things that were missed on the gameplay side that are interesting, but ultimately details. The Awakening effect not only gives access to new supers and 50 more SP, but also gives the character a substantial buff to their stats. This creates a strong comeback effect that defines the Arena/Ultimax meta.
    The other thing to note is about shadow characters. Shadow characters have 2000 more HP and 20% less attack. This fundamentally hurts their playstyles outside of shadow frenzy, meaning that with the exception of Chie, Naoto, Yu, Yosuke and Mitsuru, most shadow characters are unviable really, since Burst and Awakening is so strong. Also, in 2.0, Shadow characters have been completely retooled to have a burst, and no longer carry over their SP. Instead, Shadow Frenzy is started through burst. Their stats have also been retooled, with most characters having a 10% attack reduction and 1000 more HP, and also, any combo that includes a shadow frenzy is unburstable by the opponent. This makes Shadow Characters the typical favorite for 2.0, and while we don't know how different 2.5 is, we can expect a shadow dominated meta going forward.
    On the story side, there's a few things to mention. First, in the first Arena game, in order to get 100% you have to play certain character stories multiple times. This is because many characters have joke endings, and you need to get them for the game to declare you have 100%. I don't like the Arena story much haha
    In Ultimax, there is a secret ending if you do both of the dialogue choices for Yu against Sho. I have no idea if you got this, but you didn't mention it so I'm assuming you didn't. This results in a final battle of Yu and Sho with his newly integrated Persona that, in my opinion, really brings his character into a stronger light. Its also shown that Sho is a wild card that rejected Igor's contract, which is FASCINATING and that alone makes me want to see more of him. I would play a Sho focused spin-off. Also, I am not sure if you're aware of this, but the Adachi DLC comes with an Adachi story mode that offers a view of the story from Adachi's point of view, and I think develops Adachi's character in a natural light.

  • @Ciel_Low
    @Ciel_Low 2 года назад +40

    Honestly, my favorite way to experience Arena's story is the manga, its based on Yosuke's and Aigis's stories and it actually is really good in my opinion

  • @anxhelovucinaj1576
    @anxhelovucinaj1576 2 года назад +45

    No mention for adachi's campaign in ultimax?
    Well that's disappointing

  • @SapphireCarbuncle009
    @SapphireCarbuncle009 2 года назад +177

    Personally I felt like Sho Minazuki and Kagatsuchi were the biggest symptom of how much Persona 4's legacy shifted as the theme transitioned from "facing and accepting the truth of things" to "bonds between friends is the true strength". The anime kinda started that trend, but Kagatsuchi's last words being how "he lost to something as weak as bonds" really speaks to how much the theme central to Persona 4 was ironically lost to the fog of merchandising and spinoffs.

    • @saltyyogourt1136
      @saltyyogourt1136 2 года назад +84

      Bonds are a theme that's always been central to the Persona series itself. It's really a shame how P4AU abandoned the themes of accepting the truth in lieu of a more heavy emphasis on bonds. It feels kind of ironic given how Labrys' entire story was based around her accepting what she is and her past, rather than rejecting it and living in her made up world.

  • @persona4ever447
    @persona4ever447 2 года назад +53

    1. Arcsystem Works is Known both for Guilty Gear & Blazblue. Primarily though of Guilty Gear.
    For more Info, ASW has 2 Teams (Red & Blue Team) in developing Guilty Gear & Blazblue.
    For Blazblue & the P4 Arena Games, Team Blue.
    2. In the 1st Game, each of their Story is to be considered Canon, though to be considered as Different Timelines becuz this is Persona & specifically Megaten afterall, a Series where multiple Timelines or a Multi-universe exists.
    But to have a Concrete Main Timeline Story, the following Important Stories that you would want to play are
    Labrys
    Yu
    Elizabeth
    Mitsuru
    Naoto
    3. For one thing, I believe that the Story Mode should had more of Blazblue's Artwork & Design so the Story could look visually better...
    4. The only Problem of P4 A.Ultimax to me is that Sho didn't really have his own Story like Labrys. In the Manga, he has more Story...
    5. You forgot Adachi's Story & Growth, lol.

    • @shadowfire1500
      @shadowfire1500 2 года назад +14

      Yeah, I was thinking the exact same things. Those were definitely stuff he missed, but I do think a follow-up could touch on a few things. The Adachi portion is, in my opinion, the best part of Ultimax’s story, since we get directly into his head, which is great, since he’s one of the most fascinating characters in the Persona series.

    • @FredMaverik
      @FredMaverik 2 года назад +1

      if the game had some badass cutscenes like the story modes of GG Xrd and Strive it would be much better. A cohesive story is prefereed too.

    • @persona4ever447
      @persona4ever447 2 года назад +1

      @@FredMaverik
      That's Team Red Though.
      If Team Red had the Interestz to make a Persona Fighting Game, it should've been them to make it, not Team Blue, however as we all know this didn't happen...
      Team Blue where the ones who were interested, thus made the Arena Games using Blazblue as their Template, thus following some of its Story & Gameplay...

    • @AliciaDarky
      @AliciaDarky 2 года назад +1

      @@persona4ever447 I imagine Team Red would like to work on Persona 5 Arena, right?

    • @persona4ever447
      @persona4ever447 2 года назад +1

      @@AliciaDarky
      Doesn't seem so.
      Team Blue were the 1st to approach Atlus in making P4 Arena & Mori said himself that he doesn't mind to make P5 Arena but that's Atlus' Decision...
      However let's say that Team Red is interested, they as of right now are also having a lot of Projects to do. So the Idea of P5 Arena to be made by Team Red may take Years for it to happen...

  • @skyslashnova4308
    @skyslashnova4308 2 года назад +24

    Part of me finds it funny that the Persona series has some great narratives and the Persona fighting game managed to end up with the classic fighting game narrative of a fighting tournament.

    • @simpcat4415
      @simpcat4415 2 года назад +1

      I know right it’s so weird. Fighting game stories have never been good but they keep pouring so many resources into them and they still come out this bad.

    • @thegamerfe8751
      @thegamerfe8751 2 года назад +5

      @@simpcat4415 *KOF would like to know your location* (yes it's still a tournament but its story is the best if any fighting game).

    • @simpcat4415
      @simpcat4415 2 года назад +1

      @@thegamerfe8751 I haven’t played it so I’ll take your word I guess

    • @skyslashnova4308
      @skyslashnova4308 2 года назад +4

      @@simpcat4415 I can confirm that KOF lore is pretty banger even though it has the fighting tournament formula.

    • @Skallva
      @Skallva 2 года назад +1

      Even funnier when you consider that ArcSys is usually known for not following the standard tournament formula and going places with their stories that FGs do not tread.

  • @Wolfedge75
    @Wolfedge75 2 года назад +19

    I love the Arena games; they're what got me into the Megaten series in the first place.
    As a fighting game fan though...
    it's funny how they're the "accessible, casual-friendly" fighter back in the day, quarter-circle motions only for specials and light attack autocombos and all yet nowadays the bar was (somehow) lowered ever lower with "one-button+direction" specials and autocombos that starts from any buttons.

  • @Paolo1743
    @Paolo1743 2 года назад +7

    I simply love the reviews of this man, covers most information efficiently and not boring. Amazing job.
    Now I wanna play Persona 4 Arena Ultimax

  • @rivp
    @rivp 2 года назад +4

    I’m so incredibly addicted to your videos, you definitely make some of the best review content on RUclips

  • @Deoxys_Used_Mimic
    @Deoxys_Used_Mimic 2 года назад +9

    Gripes aside, Shadow Labrys vs Sho was the *hype-est* thing for me in that game.
    …but Adachi’s story was pretty neat too.

  • @TheGamer19856
    @TheGamer19856 2 года назад +11

    Base Arena is my favorite Persona plot in the Franchise. Yosuke and Aigas have especially good plots so I was delighted to see the manga went with their routes. Labrys' plot is pretty predictable but her voice acting really sells it for me. The scene that traumatised her and the sense of dread building up to it is one of two times ever a game made me cry.
    There is definitely some text that repeats too much but I like that some character get extra joke endings, I love seeing the P3 casts dynamic since 3, and I love seeing how everyone would have interracted with Labrys and reached out in there own way if they made it to the announcement room.
    The only real issue I have is that Yu is really fucking boring (outside of his weird Nanako gimmick) in pretty much every route except Yosukes where him trusting that Yosuke's got this is a really sweet moment.

  • @nicktoons125
    @nicktoons125 2 года назад +1

    Woo! 1st Nam video for 2022! SUPER EXCITED! 🔥

  • @gensationaldraws
    @gensationaldraws 2 года назад +33

    I will always say this, The story of the Arena duology is always greatly undersold. Your relatively kind analysis (compared to others) is greatly appreciated.
    I will say, Ultimax suffered from time constraints. Loose plot threads, underutilization of Sho, Minazuki and Hi-no-kagutsuchi. Arena is objectively the more polished experience.
    Though a more realised version of the Ultimax story does exist. It has yet to be officially translated. And that would be the manga from Rokuro Saito. Should that happen, I couldn't reccomend it more than enough. It truly taps into what Ultimax should have been.

    • @demi-fiendoftime3825
      @demi-fiendoftime3825 2 года назад +3

      So what Persona 1's manga does for it story sign me the fuck up

    • @gensationaldraws
      @gensationaldraws 2 года назад +4

      @@demi-fiendoftime3825 IT'S GENUINELY SO TASTY,, I'd kill to own a physical translated copy.

  • @jaxxy2583
    @jaxxy2583 2 года назад +1

    Yes lawd. I've been waiting for this!

  • @GeminiQ22
    @GeminiQ22 2 года назад +2

    I’m always a sucker for a new chapter in Nam’s Compendium!

  • @shadowfire1500
    @shadowfire1500 2 года назад +18

    Honestly, haven’t touched the games since 2013 outside of listening to the soundtrack, so listening to one of your videos about the Arena games is a nice return. I have some gripes, such as ignoring the Adachi story, the best story content in the two games, in my honest opinion. Otherwise, great vid, can’t wait for more.

  • @RaspyCh
    @RaspyCh 2 года назад +1

    Loved the video man! Was looking forward you talking about Adachi but I guessed since he was a dlc character you didn’t bother. You can see how he grew since the ending of p4. Also his character I just really good and funny in Ultimax

  • @cryptix0
    @cryptix0 2 года назад +4

    Great little overview I think the best part of ultimax was episode Adachi if anything that was the best thing the game had to offer storywise.

  • @Silent_Mochi
    @Silent_Mochi 2 года назад +1

    Couldn't have asked for a better arena video
    This was a great retrospect and you described the gamely and story perfectly

  • @petrock4041
    @petrock4041 2 года назад +9

    Wtf this isn't persona dancing.................. but I'll still watch it I guess

  • @vicneti
    @vicneti 2 года назад

    another sick vid king, good stuff

  • @mafiadee
    @mafiadee 2 года назад +5

    I love your deepdives into the persona and Smt games.
    How about spiraling down into the captivating world of Omori?

  • @kouzeron3287
    @kouzeron3287 2 года назад +6

    You've done it! Again! A great video based on one of my favourite RPG Series! PERSONA! Especially since PERSONA 4 ARENA is based on a fighting game system done by the developer who made Guilty Gear & Blazblue! My favourite fighting games after Street Fighter 5, Tekken 7 & King Of Fighters: All Stars!
    I certainly have been waiting for this! Thank you so much Nam! You're definitely doing great! Keep up the good work & providing us content like this always. Peace out and also please take care of yourself!

    • @thegamerfe8751
      @thegamerfe8751 2 года назад +2

      Eh, I wouldn't count KOFAS as a fighting game since it doesn't even play like one. It's a beat'em up game.
      But it's a cool mobile game either way.

  • @tron0150
    @tron0150 2 года назад +5

    Kinda sucks that party uses old design and not time skip one, of course they were added later in golden, but they could add them in ultimax to preserve continuity.

  • @rafaelploumis8682
    @rafaelploumis8682 2 года назад +1

    Great video! Let's hope they announce P4G on consoles on February and have the Midnight Collection available on consoles as well!

  • @joe_mama__
    @joe_mama__ 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @BeautyIsDevotion
    @BeautyIsDevotion 2 года назад +3

    P4AU actually does have a fairly active community through RPCS3 on PC and PS3 through respective discord servers

  • @ndprod.animationenthusiast9376
    @ndprod.animationenthusiast9376 2 года назад +6

    Short answer: Yes.
    Long answer: I’m quite fond of the story and mechanics and story of the game. Also, some of the campaigns are hilarious.
    It had its issues but it’s not too bad.
    8.5/10

  • @shinji2898
    @shinji2898 2 года назад +3

    Just got done beating P4A, and yeah, I can kinda agree with the story part pretty hard. Every route does have some cool stuff to it + nice moments, but the amount of repeated dialogue and cutscenes genuinely makes it feel like a chore to get through sometimes. I definitely think that some are better than others though, so there’s that at least

  • @tylertass9983
    @tylertass9983 2 года назад

    Another quality review

  • @sylas3265
    @sylas3265 2 года назад

    I loved arena and ultimax a lot. It was technically my first persona game as I had never had a chance to get one before and it randomly showed up with a bargain bin sticker on it sometime. I had known about the persona series for awhile, and SMT was always in gaming magazines so I had a general idea but after arena I went on a megaten trip. It became a hyper fixation for awhile and is still a rabbit hole I could spend hours explaining to someone.
    And when ultimax gave us the scene when Labrys was shut down but shadow Labrys took over? That was a lot of fun and got my gears spinning wonderfully!

  • @tronixchl2004
    @tronixchl2004 2 года назад +2

    24:42 Isn't that the famous sword from the Megami Tensei games? Like the Excalibur from Final Fantasy?

    • @tastethecock5203
      @tastethecock5203 2 года назад +1

      Hi No Kagutsuchi is a kami whose birth killed Izanami because he was a giant ball of fire.

  • @Em-yd3sn
    @Em-yd3sn 2 года назад +4

    Can’t wait to view the part where Nam complains about protein
    Edit: I was wrong

  • @tttttt4461
    @tttttt4461 2 года назад +1

    Personally I went for the mangas and they clear up so much in terms of the timeline of P4A and it's essentially the canon route

  • @jethiliusavalar6449
    @jethiliusavalar6449 2 года назад

    Came back to say that I'm almost desperately in love with the thumbnail

  • @illusive-mike
    @illusive-mike 2 года назад +8

    Sho and Kagutsuchi are such weak villains that they single-handedly make Ultimax's story terrible for me, while the original Arena was a rather good P4 dungeon (that just didn't need so many routes). Ultimax had better structure, but Arena had the better narrative. And also yes, P4 route having the True Ending in Ultimax just didn't work when the P3 route had Labrys.
    Also, Labrys route needed a mirror match for extra kick. No announcer. No personas. No music. No reconciliation with the opponent at the end. A senseless, brutal deathmatch. I was greatly disappointed when it didn't happen, because that route is already... gameplay-deprived, and it could've worked great to enhance the tone and underline the twisted reason behind P-1 Grand Prix.

    • @imsmart799
      @imsmart799 2 года назад

      kasumi and zenkichi, are easily the best characters that are in spinoff

  • @EditDeath
    @EditDeath 2 года назад +1

    Whether in an Arena game or some other form, I'm just hoping for canon interactions between P5 characters and the rest. I'd love to see Futaba's reaction to meeting a Phoenix Ranger Featherman Pink Argus. The geekout moment should be legendary

  • @frankusg6193
    @frankusg6193 2 года назад +4

    The one thing I don’t like is the p4 Crew loose their evolved personas, but the p3 crew keep them
    Btw best part is when Yu and Adechi fuse personas at the end

    • @frankusg6193
      @frankusg6193 2 года назад

      @P3 SEES P4 Investigation Team P5 Phantom Thieves so you telling me yu social links are not cannon???

    • @skyslashnova4308
      @skyslashnova4308 2 года назад

      @@frankusg6193 There's a weird discrepancy in the presentation and the actual story of the game. Stuff like Yukiko's acceptance of being the manager seems to indicate that it did happen somewhat, but there's also things like Shadow characters having intro/outro animations that reference the Shadows they faced in P4 despite being different entities, as well as the P4 cast having not evolved Personas.
      My deranged theory is that the personas were just unevolved so looking at the game at a surface level makes it look like before postgame/ending stuff but then Adachi exists and is a big ass spoiler.
      Maybe ArcSys just likes the unevolved Personas better and I agree lol.

    • @frankusg6193
      @frankusg6193 2 года назад

      @@skyslashnova4308 no I disagree Chies evolved persona tier 3 looks badass

    • @LinkaDL
      @LinkaDL 2 года назад

      @@skyslashnova4308 I think that the unevolved versions are because of aesthetics reasons. The evolved ones look afwul being honest and everybody has already associated their first personas to their users. I have noticed that this happens in P5 Strikers too. Is canon that SLs are maxed out but they still have their first personas.

    • @Redhead-pf8le
      @Redhead-pf8le 2 года назад

      @@frankusg6193 Yu mentions the fight at Samegawa if he defeats Yosuke, so it's canon

  • @deciduous_reaper
    @deciduous_reaper 2 года назад +1

    Honestly this game got me introduced to Persona and mostly Persona 4

  • @ojaylenjones2301
    @ojaylenjones2301 2 года назад +3

    Why didn't you mention the status effects? Status effects in an rpg fighting game was very unique. Confusion reverses controls, paralysis means you can't move besides the roll button, fear in summary means you take a lot more damage, enraged means you can't block, and others. These are baked into the core gameplay and can't be turned off unlike something like smash. You would think that this would be anti competitive but it basically comes down to adapting or get gud scrub.

    • @deco7217
      @deco7217 2 года назад +1

      Status effects sound fun to experience...except confusion.

  • @instantramen4588
    @instantramen4588 2 года назад +2

    The Arena games really tricked the average gamer into reading a book

  • @joelabraham6834
    @joelabraham6834 Год назад

    I'm gonna attempt to platinum this. Got every mainline platinum in Persona series and am gonna work my way through the spinoffs.

  • @yurikuki
    @yurikuki 2 года назад

    Was always weird to me that Yu ChadSwagonist still wore his Yasogami High clothes in this game. At least in the dancing games it was his performance outfit.

  • @skyslashnova4308
    @skyslashnova4308 2 года назад +2

    Persona 5 Arena: :)
    Return of the Shadow Operatives and Investigation Team to the story: :O
    Persona 1 and 2 cast also getting representation: >:D

  • @khdo12346
    @khdo12346 2 года назад

    16:07 "Mitsuru strikes enemies with the speed and grace you'd expect her to" B O O T

  • @roxas-qc7ud
    @roxas-qc7ud 2 года назад +1

    I think for arena 1's story I do think just doing narukami, Naoto, p3 characters and labrys is the ideal way the story should be seen. just Fast Foward the other ones unless you're going for a joke ending

  • @HiDiegoGabriel
    @HiDiegoGabriel 2 года назад

    This games looks so clean!

  • @DerrickBarrows
    @DerrickBarrows Год назад

    One of my favorite fighting games of all time. I hope people keep playing.

  • @metallarozozzo
    @metallarozozzo 2 года назад +3

    Yeah the biggest problem with these games is how the story is narrated, too many inner dialogues and too many words to describe a simple scene. But overall I liked Labrys' story, and I think Adachi had more character development in this game than he had in P4.

  • @jf4132
    @jf4132 Год назад

    I love that Yukari wears that Super Sentai outfit in the story. Looks cute on her.

  • @100Servings
    @100Servings 2 года назад +3

    You're not a professional fighting game player, but you are a professional Persona player, so you have no excuse. 😜
    Great video. I've been really turned off by the spin off games because they seemed like cash grabs. I'm glad you convinced my otherwise, and I'll preorder the game now. Thanks! 😃👍

    • @simpcat4415
      @simpcat4415 2 года назад +2

      I haven’t played the game myself, but I’ve been an Arcsys fan since Bbtag which is a crossover game that had some of the p4a characters in it and if they play similar to that game then this game is awesome! It’s also a very highly regarded game amongst FGC people.

    • @hexenvexen
      @hexenvexen 2 года назад +4

      The only spin-offs I'd say are really cashgrabs are 3 & 5 Dancing. Arena/Ultimax, Q1/Q2, 4 Dancing, and especially Strikers have enough merit to them to warrant a playthrough if you're a fan of the series.

  • @NikkiG1134
    @NikkiG1134 Год назад

    This looks like the successor to heritage of the future

  • @slime-mahou-shoujo
    @slime-mahou-shoujo 2 года назад

    this is a really funny game to watch tournaments for. stray hits do like 10% damage and then someone gets counterhit and fucking dies

  • @davi0121
    @davi0121 5 месяцев назад

    For those who wouldn't know: the P1 is based off a real-life pro wrestling tournament, New Japan Pro Wrestling's G1 Climax, a tournament that has been going on in some form for almost 50 years.

  • @kuyagab4444
    @kuyagab4444 2 года назад

    Considering buying P4U releasing for the Switch.

  • @DuelaDent52
    @DuelaDent52 2 года назад

    I wish the Ultimax story paths were more two sides of the same story instead of being only one or the other beats the final boss.

  • @paul2609
    @paul2609 2 года назад +2

    Persona 5 Striker is probably a better example of a non-turn-based Persona game especially with the wild card system of the protagonists.

    • @imsmart799
      @imsmart799 2 года назад

      persona 5 strikers is amazing

  • @FoxyAreku
    @FoxyAreku 3 месяца назад

    Arena story did feel odd, I played it at a friend’s house and I only played Chie’s story, and it felt like I didn’t miss anything. When I later bought ultimax I understood 90% of the references to arena when I only did one of the story campaigns so I knew something was odd about it.

  • @jerry3115
    @jerry3115 2 года назад +3

    adachy

  • @returnedtomonkey8886
    @returnedtomonkey8886 2 года назад

    Ngl The return of the midnight channel gives me the same vibe as Somehow Palpatine returned.
    Also stiry mode has the same structure as blazble 1 and 2, Most stuff is "älternate timeline" bs that is non canon. Also 13:07 That's just roman cancels from guilty gear. Don't know if +r had that though. And why didn't you talk about Adachi's episode?

  • @hadoo1973
    @hadoo1973 2 года назад

    The question is whether the physical re release will have English or not. I cant seem to confirm this anywhere.

  • @BlackKanye
    @BlackKanye 2 года назад +1

    I understand that opinion on Sho, but I felt it fit his background quite a bit. Dude is literally just lashing out like a little kid because he wasn't brought up proper. Literally brought up violently without any proper upbringing. I hope we get to see his journey they setup potential for.
    Oh and Labrys really should be the canon one to stop Sho. It just fits better thematically with the two. I remember really finding the Persona 3 side to be way more engaging in the story.

  • @RyanKarolak
    @RyanKarolak Год назад +1

    The original P4A story bugged me so much. Between the repetitiveness and the stories contradicting themselves it was tedious and confusing. It would have been a lot better if you just switched between characters as the story progressed, even if that meant it being shorter.
    I did like the Labrys storyline. That was interesting and a good break from the same retelling of the story in every other character's campaign.

  • @kitestar
    @kitestar 2 года назад

    1-more cancel is derivative of the Roman Cancel from guilty gear, one major difference is the cost of meter

  • @nicktoons125
    @nicktoons125 2 года назад

    Can I ask - Why did you change the title and thumbnail? Curious is all.

  • @AsterBTT
    @AsterBTT 2 года назад +5

    How do you mention Arc System Works in 2022 and say they're known primarily for BlazBlue? Guilty Gear Strive and Dragon Ball FighterZ were huge, even for casual audiences.

    • @Aripuni1
      @Aripuni1 2 года назад +1

      Yeah I know but thats not a big deal, he mention Blazblue maybe because Persona 4 arena using Blazblue engine and Made by Blue team

    • @kylele23
      @kylele23 2 года назад

      He mentioned blazblue because the followup to that mention is using it as a base for P4A which is true. P4A also came out a couple years before Xrd which was their return to the gg series ever since licensing issues.

  • @matteste
    @matteste 2 года назад

    I don't think you can expect any rollback netcode when it comes to this new version. Also, the PC version of Ultimax will of course come with Denuvo as all of Atlus PC ports these days, something fighting games in particular are notoriously allergic to.
    And of course, these games just made Yu such a giant Gary Stu.

  • @PKFLASH123
    @PKFLASH123 2 года назад

    So hyped this is just as good as golden on ps4

  • @the-annoyinator
    @the-annoyinator 2 года назад +1

    Wonder why you skipped over the Adachi story

  • @ayhemsebri
    @ayhemsebri 2 года назад

    I'm still playing p3f but I really would've loved of p3's mc is in p4au

  • @literallyalois2966
    @literallyalois2966 Год назад

    Adachi making his own side of the story the most interesting: *unspoken rizz*

  • @k.w.pillsbury4070
    @k.w.pillsbury4070 2 года назад +3

    “Most well known for Blazblue” The game takes most of its mechanics from Guilty Gear.

    • @Aripuni1
      @Aripuni1 2 года назад +1

      Maybe he mention Blazblue because persona using Blazblue engine

    • @skyslashnova4308
      @skyslashnova4308 2 года назад

      Burst and cancels (Rapid, Roman, One More) seems to be a staple in both BlazBlue and Guilty Gear. Burst is more similar to Guilty Gear. OMC is similar to Rapid (and +R Roman cancels), and All out attacks seem to be similar to Dust in GG.
      2.0 Shadow Frenzy also resembles Overdrive in BB because it's tied to burst (but i think i'm stretching the similarities from here already).
      I like that ArcSys reuses Bursts and Cancels in their games so I find a bit of familiarity when playing these games.

    • @kylele23
      @kylele23 2 года назад +1

      It’s built on the same animation style as blazblue over XX. Cancels and bar management are just like any of their other games.

  • @smugneru2113
    @smugneru2113 2 года назад

    I'm surprised you didn't mention how Elizabeth literally beat Erebus with her pinky finger in her story mode

  • @minakohiashi8882
    @minakohiashi8882 2 года назад

    If they ever do a Persona 5 Arena everyone from P2 to Strikes could easily show up Maya is a reporter and Katsuya is a cop and the Phantom Thefts are a group that somehow changes people's mindset and the leader is called "JOKER" its weird P2 cast never stopped whatever they doing to investigate. P2 gimmick is about investigaing rumor and Phantom Thefts are bad at keeping secrets P2 could find the thefts in less than a day. Naoto P4 and Zenkichi both public security they might know each other if the world in danger Nato could call the P4 Investigaton Team or even P3 SEES and Zenkichi could call the Phantom Thefts

  • @batzgameguru
    @batzgameguru 2 года назад

    We need a persona 5 arena

  • @xiiiskrrt
    @xiiiskrrt 2 года назад

    Crazy how I just rebought this game a couple days ago

  • @Maxler5795
    @Maxler5795 Год назад +1

    the more guilty gear i play the more i realize how similar these 2/3/4 (with strive) games are. P4A released in between XX and Xrd. and you can tell. guilty gears roman cancelling, back in XX, was pretty much non existent. in Xrd, its IDENTICAL to the 1 more present here.

  • @zheif177
    @zheif177 Год назад

    I loved p3 and p4 but I couldn't stand the slow pacing of the story and don't like fighters that much. Thank you for putting this together, now I'll go start p5. :)

  • @mohamedkoblawi4175
    @mohamedkoblawi4175 2 года назад +2

    You start the video by making a the wildest claim that Arc System Works is primarily known for BlazeBlue and not Guilty Gear. This is like the most surface level research you can do.

  • @persona4ever447
    @persona4ever447 2 года назад +1

    Update, you changed the Thumbnail, huh...

  • @hafyrrochagm7471
    @hafyrrochagm7471 Год назад +1

    Arc System is definelly famous because of GG, BlazBlue dont come any close is also their first project of sucess

  • @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
    @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 2 года назад

    I think the main problem with Ultimax is as you say... it's potential which it unfortunately doesn't come close to delivering on. The story as of yet is unfinished if they can complete it I'd actually be happy to check the game out. But as far as I can tell it's not a Persona game, Persona's themselves play a secondary aspect to the gameplay, loose ends are left to fester and cause continuity issues within the series and premises like the Shadow Ops are completely undermined by having them not deal with the threat they asked Yu to deal with (which he didn't) . If you're going to make a sequel to a game like Persona 3 & 4 you need to do better than this key themes, character development all has to go somewhere.
    It's a great fighting game but it's a lesser Persona game.

  • @Mickspad
    @Mickspad 2 года назад

    I will always take Yosuke's story as the canonical one for Arena just because Yosuke x Labrys
    I don't want to hear any arguments, Yosuke's been screwed over too many times, his crush got murdered, he got rejected by Yukiko in front of the class, Chie treats him like trash, and Narukami swooped in and charmed Rise, Yosuke's taken so many L's, and his interactions with Labrys are great.

  • @hailthequeenFM
    @hailthequeenFM 6 месяцев назад

    The existence of Labris make Ikutsuki look like a dumb ass, and orbit strike STREIGA's entire motives.

  • @littlelw319
    @littlelw319 2 года назад

    if P4AU port is a financial success. we might be able to see Door-kun again in P5AU.
    yes i know i'm on copium, but let me be. i miss that emo jesus.

  • @dnaseb9214
    @dnaseb9214 Год назад +1

    You dont need a cannon ending. Just pick one.

  • @geedebored5108
    @geedebored5108 Год назад

    Arcsys is mostly known for blazeblu???

  • @betterthanbrooklyn5806
    @betterthanbrooklyn5806 2 года назад +2

    Game's not launching with rollback :(

  • @Poopsickle12
    @Poopsickle12 2 года назад

    “You can’t have elemental weaknesses in a fighting game” *Brawl pokemon trainer*

  • @BluShiGuy
    @BluShiGuy 2 года назад

    Welp when PC releases this would be obsolete