The ULTIMATE Persona Iceberg
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- Presenting THE ULTIMATE PERSONA ICEBERG!
An iceberg video involving Persona 1, Persona 2, Persona 3, Persona 4, Persona 5, and other Persona spinoff games and other media.
The iceberg used was from r/AKidNamedHejai
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0:00 - Intro
0:37 - Tier 1
8:39 - Tier 2
16:53 - Tier 3
23:10 - Tier 4
30:22 - Tier 5
35:25 - Tier 6
41:02 - Tier 7
46:00 - Tier 8
52:17 - Tier 9
57:28 - Tier 10
1:01:22 - Outro 
Игры
"It's not a matter of dudes or chicks, I'm just scared shitless of being rejected!"
the quote people can't seem to ever mention when discussing Kanji
I feel like people argue about this so much when he’s clearly Naosexual
He liked Naoto as a guy.
He liked Naoto as a girl.
@@mcl4549 he just like me fr
true, but that doesn't necessarily just apply to romantic relationships, there are other ways of being rejected. I just think Kanji was meant to be with Naoto only.
@@mcl4549he liked naoto as a “guy” bc she looked like a girl💀 that was the whole joke plz stop with this stupid bs
I think Kanji's sexuality is ambiguous on purpose. The entire point of his arc is that you're not supposed to think any specific behavior makes someone gay or less masculine.
Anyone who tried to force Kanji into a box are the exact people who caused his issues to begin with.
57:37 in the p4 manga it’s actually implied nanako has a shadow in one of the panels as it shows her confronting her shadow in front of the entrance of her dungeon and she was asking it why it looked so sad. It’s easy to find if you just search up “ nanako shadow p4 manga “
If anyone's wondering, the names given to Femc are:
Minako Arisato (Dear Girls, Persona Q2) [Also given by Western fans at the time]
Kotone Shiomi (Stage play)
Hamuko [Given by Japanese fans]
Most of her names are a play on words on "Female Protagonist"
Thanks for this!
I personally just call her femc, because that’s what I keep hearing within the community.
Luckily Kotone Shiomi was finally confirmed as her canonical name in the new p3p port the same way as Makoto, Ren and Yu
Dear Girls Doesn't call her Minako Arisato, Kotone Shiomi is the only official name
dear girls doesn't name her at all
I like how no one is talking about “that” Futaba from the thumbnail 💀. But all tough great vid bud!
I’ve seen the animation 😏
😏
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If you know you know💀
I don’t know if it’s concerning or impressive that I can immediately recognize that art style just by a glance.
To hear the phrase “all of the persona games” and only having content from P3-P5 kinda stings a little bit. But what can you do. Also hearing about Philemon hanging around in the other games as a butterfly makes me kind of hope that Philemon will return in the future. Even if it’s a small cameo, I really would like to see Philemon take human form again.
Yeah, I actually want to see Philemon in Persona 6. And with him, the darker tone, and more leaning towards it SMT origins kind of story telling.
@@KoreanTeaKing I just want a serious persona game with funny moments sprinkled in between
@@ChaosflowerPersona 2
@@TofuSG98 not what I mean
Bro the first thing he mentions is P1 😂😂
55:16 I don't think Adachi faked it. He threw Yamano in the TV to scare her and he didn't know it'd kill her. He genuinely did throw up, but then he realized he could abuse his power.
About the P1 there is no wild card as persona users can actually have multiple persona but limited by their compatability as for the wild card they don't have compatability as they are blank slate which makes it easier for them to use any persona and if you wondering why 3-4 team mates have multiple persona the reason is simple as for 3 and 4 there is no actual demon(shadow with personality that naturally gained) so they don't know how to make contract to it
and for P5 only joker can make contract as Yaldabaoth make it that way as the shadow in metavers only have forced individuality and only remodeled by him
This actually makes a lot of sense!
6:57 if you didnt put it in, the game actually has a hidden cheat code where you can control your team
Also, i theorize that Elizabeth is trying to bring back Minato in P4A, since she says she's trying to do something but it was never specified what it was. I'd say it's likely due to how close she was with him, and how Atlus seems to like the idea of bringing back people in P3 for no reason.
I reckon reload might pull a persona 2 and be a rewind timeline. That's what I've been thinking what reload means.
Wait seriously? Whats the code?
51:59
This aged well
In Royal, Akechi is *confirmed* died by himself in the last palace, he recognize his death and discover the paradox that he's still alive afterwards.
True, but personally, I would like to believe that it was Akechi at the ending scene. :(
Thing is, I dont think the Akechi that appears in Maruki's reality is actually Akechi. I think it's Joker's *perception* of Akechi, made real by Maruki. Of course, since Joker believes that Akechi is dead, the Akechi in Maruki's reality would say that he died in Shido's palace. The ending scene definitely seemed to have Akechi walking in the background, so I believe it's 100% possible that Akechi survived the fight with his cognitive self in Shido's palace and, for one reason or another, decided to not confront the Phantom Thieves after escaping. But that's just my theory.
@@personalover9514 well at least that explains the actual Akechi’s absence in Maruki’s arc while still giving the fans hope for his survival. I don’t need any confirmation, i am adopting this idea as head cannon now 🥹
@@KoreanTeaKing the thing is not only you’re not the only one but it’s so spread it’s actually considered as absolutely true by several Akechi fans.
That means also doing some outstanding mental gymnastics.
You have to ignore some decisive explicit information provided by the game. (Such as Maruki god knowledge, Akechi finding out he was going to die, Akechi saying he was screwed in the engine room, Futaba being able to map an whole palace and saying Akechi is gone other than Sae herself searching for him for the most important trial of her life as well as the description of the post credit scene in the thieves den where it’s stated Joker was daydreaming about the past year while he was in the train, and also the “akechi’s signature outfit” is just the regular uniform from his school which we saw just on him)
Also you need to explain to yourself how he masterfully managed to do crazy things while being completely undetected (obviously he didn’t he just died there)
And the only things you consider are a student wearing uniform from Akechi’s high school and Atlus obviously not showing directly a death in a 16+ game. (They didn’t show Shiho hitting the ground either but no one supposed she landed harmlessly)
The thing your favorite character managed to do:
-escape from a dead end after locking the only exit while being barely able to walk after being beaten up
-exit the palace while being undetected by Futaba who can contact continuously Joker during the casino escape scene (obviously she could contact Akechi as well)
-being completely undetected by the phantom thieves (they exited just a few minutes after) and everyone else while he’s exited the palace in a freaking public space
- being completely unreachable by both Shido and Sae without any contact from either the police or Shido’s man until Christmas Eve
- Somehow deceiving God Maruki making him believe he was dead and that he resurrected him
- Continue to be undetected for months until March and then going in a public station in Tokyo while he’s still wanted and wearing the outfit he had every time he was on freaking tv.
But its also shown in a cut scene in Royal that Akechi helped out with getting Joker out of jail, pretty sure @Faz made a vid on it
You forgot to mention the IS Guide incident. There was this guy that created a Innocent Sin guide in some page, ten years laters he requests the administration of said page to remove his guide because he... was now converted into christianism and felt the Persona and SMT series mention of other beings from other religions was "Pure paganism" and "Disrespect towards the christian religion", so he tought he had commited a *Innocent* Sin by created that guide. Other than the Innocent Sin pun, this is real.
I didn’t know that story. Thanks for sharing! I didn’t’ made the iceberg pic, that’s why I haven’t covered it. Still, that is an interesting story.
as a christian this is friggin dumb lol
Very interesting 🤔
the grappling hook was in vanilla p5, just as a single background image in one of the menus
I haven’t noticed that, thanks!
Yeah it was one of the transition animations. I believe it was the transition into the items menu? It is super cool that they added it to smash before people even realized P5R existed though. Many fans thought it was weird but still fitting to have that menu transition be the basis of a move in smash
I like Teddie, being Nanako’s shadow, it explains a lot of things if you ask me.
One small thing in Japan the title shin Megami Tensei isn't on any of the persona games(1-5) they're just known as "Persona"
1, 2 IS, 3 FES be like
@@shrimpshufflr7745 those as well in Japan those games never had the title shin Megami Tensei it was always strictly "persona"
@@makotoamamiya2442 Megami Ibunroku Persona? I don't really understand the naming scheme so I might be wrong, but doesn't Megami count as having it in the title?
@@shrimpshufflr7745 Megami Ibunroku essentially means Alternative of the Goddess for lack of a better word. As opposed to Megami Tensei, Reincarnation of the Goddess and Shin Megami Tensei, True Reincarnation of the Goddess.
love how this is so comprehensive! 💯
Persona 4 golden was far from being the first persona game to get a pc port.The first one was persona 1 but was released only in Japan for windows 98 and XP if I remember correctly.It also came with wallpapers and screen savers for your desktop and even a jack frost desktop pet thingy
That’s amazing! I wasn’t able to find any info online regarding the vaporware esque pc ports. Thank you for this contribution. :)
The demifiend laptop?
I recognize that drawing of Futaba in the thumbnail. Allah forgive me...
59:29 my theory is that it was the ghost of the persona 3 mc pulling a prank on the persona 4 mc, This is also the my reasoning on why every persona team ends up in the same exact same situation whenever there is a hot spring door kun be doing some trolling
this was a great iceberg vid! ur incredibly underrated
although I wish I did not end up reading that yandev persona 3 fanfiction LOL
Thank you for watching my video! :)
If you’re interested in Kingdom Hearts, I’ll be releasing an iceberg on it later this week.
Again, thank you so much for your time. Your comment just made my day. :D
The oldheads gotta help out the new fans, from P1-4 and all the spinoffs there's quite a bit of material out there. That isn't even mentioning Manga, Anime, Movies, Plays and Concerts. There's always more Persona to find and I wanna see people go on that path of discovery. Division gets us nowhere, even if we disagree game to game we all love the series for a reason at the end of the day and just wanna see it keep being peak!
3:26 Was this my clip? Haha great video by the way!!! 😁
Yes sir!!! Thank you :)
Hey hey as of 12.6.2022 Persona 3 and 5royal have officially been announced for Steam and X box gamepass
Tokyo MIrage sessions marketing was so weird to me I was like "SMT x FE.... isn't that just majin tensei?"
I’ve seen that Futaba drawing before……
Nice video saw it on the p3 reddit 👍
Thank you for your time! I hope you enjoyed it. :)
@@KoreanTeaKing Even though not to be rude but if you do another one of these could you please include spoiler warnings for late game stories 😅. But still good iceberg and commentary.
@@remic6376 Thanks for the feedback, i apologize for the lack of warning, i will definitely do this for future videos. :D
7:15 - 7:53
Not sure if someone else pointed it. Persona 1 had a Japan only PC port on March 25, 1999.
I don't remember any one mentioning that, thanks for the clarification!
High quality videos and only 45 subs?
Damn i'll subscribe
Thank you so much! I’ll do even better next time!
hey, just a small thing but the manga you used to reference the p5’s protagonist being called “akira kurusu” is actually persona 5 mementos mission (basically a p5 spinoff), which refers to him as ren amamiya and not akira kurusu. it’s not really a big thing and it doesnt really matter much because i do get your point, but just wanted to point that out!!!
also, the name narukami yu isnt from persona 4 dancing, as he’s already referred to with that name in persona 4 arena, which came years before p4d!
Thank you for the corrections! I haven’t personally read the manga, i just read somewhere that akira was his name in the manga.
Again, thank you! :)
Also, as a teaser, i’m secretly working on a video related to your profile picture, may I suggest you subscribe so you see get notified when it’s uploaded? ;)
Really incredibly a new favorite RUclipsr
Thank you kindly, good sir!
Long comment on some things (sorry if other comments already shared something I say or…type)
Regarding names of the protags I found this on the wiki trivia for the P3P one, “On July 10th 2020, she was confirmed to appear in the second crossover event of the game Puzzle & Dragons under the name Kotone Shiomi, marking the first time she has received a proper name in a video game.” I also saw she got a name in something else in the trivia so I’ll call her Kotone Shiomi. Not sure if it should be brought up or not
In your transitions of each entry in the iceberg you made an error with the Picaro Personas.
In Persona 5 (I believe in both) there is also a reference to Yukari in P3. I brought it up since the entry mentioned ones from 2 and 4 but not 3. I don’t remember if anyone else from 3 is mentioned.
IDK if it counts as dodging a bullet if it isn’t fired but Akihiko also did this in P4 Arena.
I think Strikers isn’t a timeline split (unless they do a sequel or a future entry in the series says otherwise) since both games IIRC end on the same day and with Marukis reality being undone everything that should’ve happened did happen.
IMO I think it’s because Strikers and Royal were made together and both teams didn’t talk to each other. That’s why Morgana still denies being a cat in Strikers. I think it was just a real world issue and if it isn’t then then oh well guess I was wrong.
As for the video I loved it. Most stuff I learned from other Persona iceberg videos and I LOVE how I still learned something new.
Thanks for the corrections!
Some of these entries were just my interpretations based on the info i found, and given the amount of info on the net, i might have missed, misunderstood, or plain forgot some of them.
Still thank you for everything . :)
The characters that are mentioned in 5 are chie, tatsuya and katsuya, adachi, rise, naoto, yukari and thats what i remember
@@donbototo5068 thanks bro
@@donbototo5068 What’s the Yukari reference? I believe I missed it, I’m in (3rd to last)’s palace in Royal.
@@sandalogaming6766 it was an interview about her modeling career if i remember
In Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, Sho Minazuki calls Labrys a toaster, so idk if that has anything to do with aigis.
Perhaps a reference to a meme maybe? 🤔
58:34 thank you for using the correct depiction of Jesus Christ.
Congratulations, you have gained a new subscriber!
Welcome aboard, friend! Thank you. :D
That thumbnail oh nah
46:00 I think that the connection between persona and warhammer 40k comes from the warp and the chaos gods.
Basically the warp is where the souls of mortals go when they die and where the chaos gods and demons reside, but it’s connected to the minds of mortals so it’s somewhat shaped by the perceptions or desires of mortals.
For example the chaos god slaanesh it’s the god of excess, all sensations are her domain, from joy to sex and even pain. Her birth was caused because the alien race known as the eldar solved all of their societal issues and decided to have sex endlessly with even torture added to the mix. Between that and their psychic powers giving them a bigger presence in the warp they accidentally gave birth to slaanesh and she in turn gave life to endless demons at her service.
Like you can see that factor of their nature being caused by the minds of mortals sound very similar to shadows and personas.
But that’s where similarities end, when dealing with a chaos god or some demon you need to be completely fanatical in your conviction in opposing them, otherwise you get corrupted and once corrupted you start serving the chaos gods even if end up killing you.
So yeah, even thou both have similarities it’s fair to say that shadows and personas aren’t demons or chaos gods. Still one can see the similarities and differences in both their nature and in the ways of dealing with them.
Thanks for the info, man! I didn’t now a thing re warhammer 40k. :)
47:54 - For the record, Vic was Broly in both versions for FUNI.
When reading the Persona 5 manga and Mementos Mission, i found the switch from Akira Kurusu to Ren Amamiya to be jarring, tbh.
7:15 The PC ports were only announced yesterday and it feels like so long ago that we were hoping to get ports.
Yep, that entry aged like milk. Now, i’m wishing for P1 and P2 ports. 😫
I also want P1 and P2 to have them remade. I never played the 2 games yet I hunger for lore
Finally as a persona fan I can actually play the game once it comes out on Xbox 😂 only emulated p4
QUALITY CONTENT
Thank u!
This man deserves more subs
Thank you so much!
@@KoreanTeaKing your very welcome
54:15 Headcanon: The ultimate Persona of each arcana are the souls Persona users from The Other Side
I.E: Brown's Soul = Sraosha, Metatron, Melchizedek ext.
Does anyone know if Mitsuru's motorbike is based on any specific model? My guess is either no or it's something Japan specific, (it would be funny if it was really obvious, I know like nothing about motorbikes.) If anyone knows please tell me. I've been wanting to draw it and I've managed to find a few images, but most are low quality.
I gotta know what the banger is during tier 9.
Great vid btw!
Thank you! The song is Snowflakes Narasaki Remix :)
That P3 twins theory, I don't believe that, I actually believe that they are each the same person genetic wise from two different timelines, where in one timeline, the person has the XX chromosome while in the other, the person instead has the XY chromosome. This was pretty much stated in Persona Q2: New Cinema Labyrinth.
That's called being twins
@@julianrobertson1869 Well, not traditional twins as the theory he talks about mentioned, not exactly like Aether and Lumine from Genshin Impact.
@@julianrobertson1869 You know, I wonder if this theory he mentioned came from Genshin Impact because it does have the same idea where you choose which twin and whichever you choose, the other will be kidnapped and you have to save. Even so like I said, Persona Q2 pretty much confirms what I think, being that they are one person from two different timelines with one major genetic alteration.
Great video ! Insta sub
Thank you!!!
Can you please tell me what's the song used in your intro?
I used the song: mixkit -tech -house -vibes-130
I did not need to be reminded that version of furans existed in the thumbnail
Nice video!! Very complete! Now, can someone tell me the name of Tier 2's background music? Thanks xD
Thanks!! It’s maya’s theme :)
@@KoreanTeaKing Thank you so much! :D
the femc is actually Makoto's sister is wrong, it's directly contradicted by PQ2, it's the plot of the P3 play tho
20:15 you should have emphasized that the lyrics don’t actually contain any ablism.
Futaba in the thumbnail 😳
Gamer moment 😳
this got me 🤨😳😳😳
I’m so glad I wasnt the only one who noticed 😭
OH GOD NO
Real ones know the sauce 😂
21:29 I'm sorry but the pauses in this sentence are just too good
one small thing, about Vic Mignona, it was revealed that the accusations against him where completely false, he was only fired from Funimation because they caved in to the minority that canceled him, he still voice acts, hell I heard that during the time that this was happening, he still reprised his role as Junpei in Persona 3: Dancing In Moonlight, so yeah, fair to say he's not retiring from voice acting anytime soon
Thanks for the follow up! I’m not caught up with the issue, but it’s nice to know that the claims were untrue.
That sure gives me hope for a Persona 3 remake since I'm pretty sure Vic would still reprise his role as Junpei for this, since the only known replacement voices of the SEES members is Ken and Fuuka. So, they wouldn't actually need to get new voice actors for the characters, unless something happens. And I'm pretty sure FeMC will get a replacement English voice actress too, due to the fact that Laura Bailey has been doing less and less voice acting roles and many of the well known characters that she voiced had been replaced by other voice actress, even Rise. Who would be FeMC's new English voice actress, I'm not sure.
@@spydersoup8447 we can only dream :( hopefully they do make a Persona 3 remake, still waiting for news from the anniversary. :(
@@KoreanTeaKing They weren't that's just what his superfans have been saying, he's lost every single court case he's been in you can look up the court documents.
@@spydersoup8447 since Junpei is one of Vic’s most well known roles, being a fan favorite for a lot of people, myself included, there would be uproars if he was recast.
57:00 I thought about this when I first saw Naoto in 2008 😂😂
Whats is the song on tier 9?
It’s the song that plays in persona 4 during winter
Anyone here knows about Hastur Persona in P2?
Lmao, you just skip over Minako (I think that was her name is PQ2 but IDR if you could choose the other protag's names.)/FEMC when listing off names.
Nice thumbnail bro 😏
😏
I clicked this video for my love of persona and absolutely nothing else
Thank you, kind sir.
idk if your see this but what do i got to collab for a persona vid im making for a 2nd channel
like is there any way to dm you?
Hi, that’s really flattering man! Unfortunately, I’m currently working on projects in and out of RUclips. Hopefully, we could do a collab soon!
@@KoreanTeaKing ok if you ever get anytime dm me on twitter
@TheKjmanYT
Alright man!
I'm mostly just watching this video if P4 the musical is on the list, because I never see it on any iceberg videos.
24:24 The background 💀💀💀💀
I got scared after seeing the heartswitch part of the iceberg
51:59 real
What song is playing in tier 7
It is Yukino’s theme from Persona 2.
Ngl heartswitch caught me off guard 💀💀💀
Well well well. It certainly ended strong...
58:13 I mean yes but let’s keep with the iceberg
I recognize that Futaba art in the thumbnail.
nice
Tulpa is a creature created from mental energy that can have some level of autonomy. Tulpas exist (according to those who claim to have it) IRL - basically imaginary friends that can manifest in hallucinations and create a lot of false memories for you (recent example: russian orthodox priest who had a tulpa who he thought was his wife (he had real wife too BTW) for which he unconsciously photoshopped photos and made nazi social media account for without remembering any of it). Having it is not a good sign for your mental health.
21:07 im going to cry
5:22 Its Minako and Minato**
LMAO HE HAS THE "NOT THE GLASSES"
😭😭😭
the original japanese persona was also ported to pc back in the day
For real? I was only aware of revelations persona (being so controversial and all).
Whats the music on tier 10.
It’s with the stars and us persona 5 dancing version
Thx Great vid too.
@@Namesareass thank you, please consider subscribing:D
What are you talking about, P4 protagonist’s name is Chad.
22:45 It's not Freudian psychology, it's Jungian
ayos pare good content
Salamat, sir!
Recognized the thumbnail 🥸
😏😏😏
Ah yes Nutaba. A truly cursed piece of lore
😳😳😳
I was watching this then out of nowhere P3P, P4G and P5R are announced for xbox and pc
Almost as if Philemon’s doing or something 🧐
47:26 nobody gon talk about the nsfw flash game bruh?? wtf is up w/ that
52:00 apparently was right
P3 protagonist is Roger
I thought the og persona localization was hilarious
The switch port already happened lol
P3FeMC's name was said to be minako ....wasnt it??
I’m not really sure, but iirc, i think minako was a name given by the fans?
@@KoreanTeaKing makes sense :o
The canon name is shiomi kotone
"Localizations are better handled nowdays"
Eh... I guess?
Wait....Couldn't Makoto in P3 be saved by blowing up the moon?
23:12
Actually in the ps1 version he didn't just "resemble" him he was deadass called Hitler and the enemies were of the "nazi" race in combat
Underated
Hi, thank you for taking your time in watching my video. :) I appreciate the comment and I'll make sure to provide quality videos in the future.
Again, thank you so much!
Really doesn’t make sense to me that some of the tier 2 entries are super well known. Persona Q existing isn’t that unknown
I think the iceberg image is more newbie-friendly. Especially the new wave of fans coming from the recent ports of P3-5.
@@KoreanTeaKing that’s true, maybe im a bit too hardcore of a fan haha
Voice Actors have no authority over the canon of a work unless they actually also worked as writters in said work.
Erica's claim have no ground
Ktk: "Maybe atlus would bring persona games to xbox"
Xbox: "Let me take you up on that offer"
🤣🤣🤣
KTK: Maybe you’d consider subscribing, good sir.🧐
@@KoreanTeaKing maybe, depends on what other content you make
46:00 LMFAOOO
Na I recognized the Futaba art on the thumbnail😳
well thats gonna be the lorest hour of my life, sorry michele del deserto, i have to shut elden ring.
Ayo why is that one Futaba porn image in the thumbnail!?
Ayy you recognize that too? 😅
Hey one of those pictures in the thumbnail looks.. familiar
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